Hi guys. I am from Germany so please don't blame me for my English. Just saw this review and your questions. Will try to answer some of them. The original company was named Neoxline or Neoxxline. It was located somewhere near to Berlin. First I saw a professional tennis coach from Berlin using one of these in 2007 or 2008 while he gave me some lessons. Later the raquet were sold branded as Curvingstar but they are still the same. The white / red raquet and the silver / red both have 104 spr inch heads and a given weigth of 280g an 300g. The black / yellow one is about 310 or 320 g sold and has a 100 spr inch head. I played all three and owned the white / red for 2 years. I still play the black/yellow one since 3 years. I played Tennis since 1973 starting at the age of 12 with a wooden stick and played my hole life as an amateur and competed in team tournaments in official German Tennis Council's (DTB) leagues. My later years I made it to the state level league, something that should be similar if you play f.e. Florida or Pennsylvania or California league in the US. My last ranking was No. 666 of Germany in the age class of 55-60 years. Normally I played raquets like a Wilson Pro Stuff (Federer), a Babolat Pure Aero Tour, a Wilson Blade 104 SW, a Yonex 100 or 95 sqr inch headsize. Something like that. I entered a tennis club in 2014, where the old guys played highest German league (over 60) and won the championship more or less easy each summer (on clay) an each winter (indoor on carpet). 4 of the 6 players used the curvingstar raquets. 3 the white / red, one the silver / red. So - these raquets are not only for beginners! Especially older recreational players use these sticks at top Gernman rankings. And the professional coach I first saw using that Neoxxline predecessor was about 30 years old and played very good. He was Regional league. That is over the state if you cut the US in 4 parts lets call them East, West, North and South - then you have Regional league. Maybe it looks like the old sneauwart raquet but the difference is the curved grip. That makes a huge difference!!! The curved grip makes it very easy to find your grip extremly easy and quick. Big advantage if you change your grips a lot and often. For me I let's say I use a semiwestern forehand baseline grip, a eastern forehand grip for approach shot and a light forehand grip for a yolley. At backhand also semiwestern grip for spin, continental for slice and a light backhand grip vor Volley. On serve and overhead either light backhand, continental or sometimes a 2 finger grip to reach a lob anyway. These amount of grips to find quick and easy and to have the feedback "I got it" makes the curved grip extremly precious. Also the bend of the grip makes all three raquets very well balanced. On serve both 104 sticks (white/red and silver/red) make it possible for a righthander to rightside sidespin the ball. You need to exercise but it is possible because when hitting the strings are not up/down right/left but they are diagonal. So you can sidespin a serve to your righthanded opponents backhand if you like to do so. Beside that you don't loose the ability to perform a normal second serve as a top spin. Or to do a left bended slice serve. So your choice is right bended slice, left bended slice, kick serve as usual or flat. But this particular stroke - right bended slice serve - does not work as well with the black/yellow stick. That one ist less curved and I could it not really get into practical match use as I was able to do that with my former owned white/red raquet. For me I preferr the black/yellow one because it has the highest weight and swingweight and a plow through that ist very near to a Wilson Blade. Solid and fine. My former white / red raquet was a "strategic weapon" if I got a pusher opponent I couldn't shoot off the court. I then changed to the curvingstar. Could play it effordless 7 hours in a row and never made a mistake so could push away the pusher. But was never too happy playing that tactic. But if you like a lighter stick, the white / red and silver / red would even give you more advantage of the concept, because they are more bend than the black/ yellow raquet. My old fellows in the club mostly used the lighter white / red with some lead weight somewhere in the head to make it more stable. Power and control of all sticks are good average for their specs and the black one has a nice poppy feel at hit. Sweetspots are large. The trick is the perfect feel and balance. No problems to maneuver (to move quick is meant). I screw the raquets all the time in my hands but never felt a problem to find the ricght side down / up. Less than a conventional raquet at least, because following weight and balance the raquet ends up the right way after each spin in your hands. Should be said: beside the weird shape - distance hand to sweetspot and the angle is the same as at any other raquet. You hit the ball immediately "as ever and normal". I am only a user of my 2 black / yellow curvestar raquets. I am not in any relationship to the company. Sticks are sold via the internet in Germany. Best regards and wish you all the best on the court, Frank
Nope, it is nothing like the Snauwaert. It plays completely different. The arc on the racket/handle is what makes these racket different. I would recommend these rackets to older recreational players with a traditional technique . It really helps in hitting low and high balls.
This may sound weird. I've never seen these racquets before in my life until I watched this youtube video. I have a reoccurring dream from time to time where I'm hitting the ball terribly on the courts. In this dream I look down at my racket and it looks all warped just like these. No lie.
Parabolic skies were rage in the late 90s to 2000s. They are still being used today. And they did make turning and learning to ski much easier than the traditional straight ski.
Brand name was Curvstar, their site is defunct. Kickstarter says it was located in Scottsdale, AZ, so it was US based. Only got 9,734 pledged of US$ 50,000 goal. Guess she went ahead and made them anyway, surprised there were so many models.
I remember running across these when doing a search of strange and unusual tennis racquets. I've always wondered how it would feel to hit with those...
Inspiration from an Axe handle and golf driver perhaps? It must be digging deeper on the baseline return. Thanks for showcasing these. Question: Can you even string it on your stringing machine?
If you really want to follow the way an axe attacks, rotate the head 90° and give it a forward lean. (yeah, I know, incredible power but little ball control)
With the angled handle (looks like a banana), it seems like it should feel different depending on the grip you use. I can't imagine you don't feel a significant difference using an extreme western as opposed to something in the other direction: semi toward continental.
I have one with a camouflage paintjob. Its called Curve Star ST 285. It plays like a modern tweener but I Really don't know which is the right way to hold it
Another channel tried it and it doesn't work. It is too weird. He could never hit the ball solidly. He tried the old version of it from the 1980s but it was the same odd head shape. That one didn't have the curved handle... maybe this curved handle would work better on the serve. The volley would be also something that would take some getting used to..
There was also a racket in early 90's with 2 grips. Forgot what brand, I saw it once being demo'd on the ISPO sporting goods fair in Munich. 2 grips = you'd hit 2-handed groundies from both sides. Did not see the demo dude hit any serves nor volleys, though. Didn't Snauwaert also make these twisted rackets way back then - white frame... Anyone?
I was vaguely aware of ergonomic rackets and if memory serves me they were not the only brand. I only saw you hit some ground strokes so I am curious if you hit any volleys or serves and your impressions with those shots
This i s no new idea. I remember such kind of racket in the 80's but whit a straight grip. It had no success and quickly disappeared form the market. Nobodody wanted to play with it.
Ergo has a pretty floppy head compared to a modern racket, even floppy compared to similar era prostaff. Decent if you can hit the sweet spot very often.
Interesting example for what a conservative sport tennis is. Apparently the only real argument against these rackets is the look of it. Beside that it seems to be a very convincing concept. I just ordered one of them, can´t wait to try it out.
Hey guys, I know this is out of the blue, but would love to see some of you fellas helping out with the folks in the Bay helping accompany the elders, women, and children that are being targeted for hate crimes. Lotta ways to get involved.
this is some count dooku kind of racket
I was about to say that
Hi guys. I am from Germany so please don't blame me for my English. Just saw this review and your questions. Will try to answer some of them.
The original company was named Neoxline or Neoxxline. It was located somewhere near to Berlin. First I saw a professional tennis coach from Berlin using one of these in 2007 or 2008 while he gave me some lessons. Later the raquet were sold branded as Curvingstar but they are still the same.
The white / red raquet and the silver / red both have 104 spr inch heads and a given weigth of 280g an 300g. The black / yellow one is about 310 or 320 g sold and has a 100 spr inch head. I played all three and owned the white / red for 2 years. I still play the black/yellow one since 3 years. I played Tennis since 1973 starting at the age of 12 with a wooden stick and played my hole life as an amateur and competed in team tournaments in official German Tennis Council's (DTB) leagues. My later years I made it to the state level league, something that should be similar if you play f.e. Florida or Pennsylvania or California league in the US. My last ranking was No. 666 of Germany in the age class of 55-60 years.
Normally I played raquets like a Wilson Pro Stuff (Federer), a Babolat Pure Aero Tour, a Wilson Blade 104 SW, a Yonex 100 or 95 sqr inch headsize. Something like that. I entered a tennis club in 2014, where the old guys played highest German league (over 60) and won the championship more or less easy each summer (on clay) an each winter (indoor on carpet). 4 of the 6 players used the curvingstar raquets. 3 the white / red, one the silver / red.
So - these raquets are not only for beginners! Especially older recreational players use these sticks at top Gernman rankings. And the professional coach I first saw using that Neoxxline predecessor was about 30 years old and played very good. He was Regional league. That is over the state if you cut the US in 4 parts lets call them East, West, North and South - then you have Regional league.
Maybe it looks like the old sneauwart raquet but the difference is the curved grip. That makes a huge difference!!! The curved grip makes it very easy to find your grip extremly easy and quick. Big advantage if you change your grips a lot and often. For me I let's say I use a semiwestern forehand baseline grip, a eastern forehand grip for approach shot and a light forehand grip for a yolley. At backhand also semiwestern grip for spin, continental for slice and a light backhand grip vor Volley. On serve and overhead either light backhand, continental or sometimes a 2 finger grip to reach a lob anyway. These amount of grips to find quick and easy and to have the feedback "I got it" makes the curved grip extremly precious. Also the bend of the grip makes all three raquets very well balanced.
On serve both 104 sticks (white/red and silver/red) make it possible for a righthander to rightside sidespin the ball. You need to exercise but it is possible because when hitting the strings are not up/down right/left but they are diagonal. So you can sidespin a serve to your righthanded opponents backhand if you like to do so. Beside that you don't loose the ability to perform a normal second serve as a top spin. Or to do a left bended slice serve. So your choice is right bended slice, left bended slice, kick serve as usual or flat.
But this particular stroke - right bended slice serve - does not work as well with the black/yellow stick. That one ist less curved and I could it not really get into practical match use as I was able to do that with my former owned white/red raquet.
For me I preferr the black/yellow one because it has the highest weight and swingweight and a plow through that ist very near to a Wilson Blade. Solid and fine. My former white / red raquet was a "strategic weapon" if I got a pusher opponent I couldn't shoot off the court. I then changed to the curvingstar. Could play it effordless 7 hours in a row and never made a mistake so could push away the pusher. But was never too happy playing that tactic.
But if you like a lighter stick, the white / red and silver / red would even give you more advantage of the concept, because they are more bend than the black/ yellow raquet. My old fellows in the club mostly used the lighter white / red with some lead weight somewhere in the head to make it more stable. Power and control of all sticks are good average for their specs and the black one has a nice poppy feel at hit. Sweetspots are large.
The trick is the perfect feel and balance. No problems to maneuver (to move quick is meant). I screw the raquets all the time in my hands but never felt a problem to find the ricght side down / up. Less than a conventional raquet at least, because following weight and balance the raquet ends up the right way after each spin in your hands.
Should be said: beside the weird shape - distance hand to sweetspot and the angle is the same as at any other raquet. You hit the ball immediately "as ever and normal".
I am only a user of my 2 black / yellow curvestar raquets. I am not in any relationship to the company. Sticks are sold via the internet in Germany. Best regards and wish you all the best on the court, Frank
I had a tennis racquet like that once. I was an old wooden racquet and I left it out in the rain.
I don't know how they patented it, but Snauwaert had a very similar ergonom racquet back in the day. the handle was straight though.
Yep, nothing new here. I had an Ergonom a few years ago, quite cool bats.
Yes,youre right,Snauwaert made it first.
Exactly!
Yeah on another U tube channel- Intuitive Tennis the coach plays with an old Snauwaert and found it quite interesting.
Nope, it is nothing like the Snauwaert. It plays completely different. The arc on the racket/handle is what makes these racket different. I would recommend these rackets to older recreational players with a traditional technique . It really helps in hitting low and high balls.
If your opponent pulls one of these out of the bag you know you're in for a funky match 😂
Would've been great if Coach Chris was like: I think I've found my new racquet
This may sound weird. I've never seen these racquets before in my life until I watched this youtube video. I have a reoccurring dream from time to time where I'm hitting the ball terribly on the courts. In this dream I look down at my racket and it looks all warped just like these. No lie.
its called a khukuri, the knife that the Gurkhas use. yes it does look very similar
Kukri
@@TesseractPleiadesOrion Khukri
Delpo should play with these considering his wrist issues. Play test the two handle racket
The Gurkha knife he's talking about at 4:09 is called a Khukri. Gurkha is a community of Nepal. Khukri is the name of the knife.
just the way those racquets look trigger my ocd so bad though. i wanna see a straight racquet asap now lol
Ocd is no joke and I hope you don't have it. If you don't, please don't throw it around very lightly, it's practically the cancer of the mind.
How would Nadal react to that?!
Parabolic skies were rage in the late 90s to 2000s. They are still being used today. And they did make turning and learning to ski much easier than the traditional straight ski.
The white with yellow grip is a copy of a racket from the 80's call the Ergonome by Snauwert
Brand name was Curvstar, their site is defunct. Kickstarter says it was located in Scottsdale, AZ, so it was US based. Only got 9,734 pledged of US$ 50,000 goal. Guess she went ahead and made them anyway, surprised there were so many models.
Can you do an episode where you string up every second hole on an 18x20 so it’s a 9x10 and play with it
Jack Sock should love this Ergonomic racquet.
Have you thought of making a video about overgrips where you give us a few suggestions for the best tacky options or something like that? Thanks!
Would like to see how it affects the serve.
The downward curve of the head replicates dropping the head below your hand in order to hit better topspin.
I remember running across these when doing a search of strange and unusual tennis racquets. I've always wondered how it would feel to hit with those...
great rackets, I have all version on your videos. The first racket idee was the snauweart ergonom.
Inspiration from an Axe handle and golf driver perhaps? It must be digging deeper on the baseline return. Thanks for showcasing these. Question: Can you even string it on your stringing machine?
The 2 coaches are quite good looking .... I’m subscribing to this channel!
Anyone remember the Snauwaert Ergonom?
Looks an interesting design. I know people don't like change, but I think this change should find its user
Signature look of superiority.
I have communicated with Manuela and picked up two of those rackets from her. They are fun to hit with.
Are those rackets difficult to string?
In a 2 handed backhand world, these racquets won't work, or am I wrong? If I'm correct it's game set match standard racquet.
Seen these designs way back in the 80s early 90s by browning and some other brand can't recall which.
If you really want to follow the way an axe attacks, rotate the head 90° and give it a forward lean. (yeah, I know, incredible power but little ball control)
Only way for these to catch on is if local tennis shops carry a few for demo.
I think it can be used as a teaching tool for develop top spin shots
With the angled handle (looks like a banana), it seems like it should feel different depending on the grip you use. I can't imagine you don't feel a significant difference using an extreme western as opposed to something in the other direction: semi toward continental.
How are serves with it?
What was serving with the racket like guys?
You should do some service drills and game situational play.
Thanks for the review
One of these is nearly identical to the Snauwert Ergonom.
I demo'd one in the 80s when it came out. I remember it being no improvement to my game.
What is 333 weight in ounces? What is the balance in head light vs head heavy?
Wonder how it feels to serve with these and how the serve speed is effected by the shape.
How do they serve?
I have one with a camouflage paintjob.
Its called Curve Star ST 285. It plays like a modern tweener but I Really don't know which is the right way to hold it
LIke they do in the video
You didn’t mention how these rackets behave on serve. I’d love to know...
Another channel tried it and it doesn't work. It is too weird. He could never hit the ball solidly. He tried the old version of it from the 1980s but it was the same odd head shape. That one didn't have the curved handle... maybe this curved handle would work better on the serve. The volley would be also something that would take some getting used to..
I tried it back in 2015 and it does work pretty well. It gives you more spin than a normal racket.
I guess you don’t have to bend your knees as much on low balls but high one-handed backhands might be difficult.
There was also a racket in early 90's with 2 grips. Forgot what brand, I saw it once being demo'd on the ISPO sporting goods fair in Munich. 2 grips = you'd hit 2-handed groundies from both sides. Did not see the demo dude hit any serves nor volleys, though. Didn't Snauwaert also make these twisted rackets way back then - white frame... Anyone?
The Natural is currently in production; the Handler was the other twin handled frame.
ERGE and Sentra had bent handle frames in the 1980.
I was vaguely aware of ergonomic rackets and if memory serves me they were not the only brand. I only saw you hit some ground strokes so I am curious if you hit any volleys or serves and your impressions with those shots
I think one time they made an error and the racket came out malformed and they said, 'hey we found a niche market'..
How do you even serve tho
What about serving?
Crazy rackets, really weird look. It seems like somebody put them in the microwave oven. :)
I enjoyed the video! Do you know if Mizuno will start selling rackets again in the USA?
Are those legal on the pro tour?
Reminding me a lot of wacky golf clubs with curvy heads claiming you’ll never hook or slice with it.
This i s no new idea. I remember such kind of racket in the 80's but whit a straight grip. It had no success and quickly disappeared form the market. Nobodody wanted to play with it.
Id like to try those.. How are the serves?
Since I shank so many balls, maybe I should try one. Do they come in a left handed version 😜?
Wouldn’t it be the same...
So what's the science behind this? Just more comfortable in the hand?
Great video! There is a racquet that the coaches dosn t like ? :-)
Snauwaerd Ergonom..1994 ..?
1984 indeed.
Ergo has a pretty floppy head compared to a modern racket, even floppy compared to similar era prostaff. Decent if you can hit the sweet spot very often.
it's like they melded a jai alai cesta into a tennis racquet
I've always wanted to own one of these. I've hopes I'll own it one day. If you know how I can get one. Do tell me
Interesting example for what a conservative sport tennis is. Apparently the only real argument against these rackets is the look of it. Beside that it seems to be a very convincing concept. I just ordered one of them, can´t wait to try it out.
Perhaps it's a racquet built for Count Dooku.
they look like golf clubs but how are you supposed to string those
did try to serve with it?
I’m sure Rublev would argue that aesthetics is important in tennis
It would be awesome to see roger,rafa,or novak to win a title with this racquet🤪
The design is to make sure you "keep the racquet head up" all the time. Any coach their weight should be able to recognise the concept immediately.
Did anyone try and serve with these racquets?
I saw an ad for these a few weeks ago and I thought it looked like these were just a gimmick.
Serve?
“Worldstar!!!!”
If Dr. Seuss made a Tennis Racket
Review on head radical microgel mp
This chinese people speak english very well. I'm impressed 👍
Is this legal ? Salute.
racquet after they've been used by kyrgios be like:
1:45 - hey guys remember to look confused here
Salvador Dali style racket lol
What about serving!
So the 100 square inch one is actually the smallest? 😁
Looks like Monfils next racquet :-D
Ugh. FullHD at least please...
Is this tournament legal??
There would definitely be an opponent psyche-out factor to these rackets.
AND AGAIN!
How on earth can you string these things.
head shape looks pretty conventional.
There rackets are made specifically for people who use a frying pan serve.
Similar to...
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snauwaert
Hey guys, I know this is out of the blue, but would love to see some of you fellas helping out with the folks in the Bay helping accompany the elders, women, and children that are being targeted for hate crimes. Lotta ways to get involved.
You guys going to be carrying these?
Hunk
The grip looks like some of the sith lightsabers from star wars
You should keep the mask on lol
譁眾取寵嘅設計 有錢都唔會浪費 hard sell is not useful
Why the mask?
Can't believe someone put money into producing such a horrible product. Probably sold like eight of them.
What about serving?