Pete Cowen's Spinning Right Arm EXPLAINED
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- ►Andy Carter breaks down Pete Cowen's Spinning the Right arm information for the average golfer to understand.
Pete Cowen is one of the world's leading coaches with multiple major winners and world number 1's trusting his golf knowledge, but many amateurs don't really understand his terminology. However all good golfers swing how he explains....
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Nice one Andy. Pete is without doubt the Yoda of golf coaches but requires an interpreter for us mortals to understand him!
One of the best videos I’ve ever seen on TH-cam. And like many golfers, I’ve seen a few thousand. 😂
@@nyegreg The trick is finding the ones that actually make you better. They are few and far between!! 🙂
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Rory isn’t a mortal and he couldn’t understand him either.
Excellent job Andy in explaining Pete Cowen's "spinning right arm" move! I've been working on this move for quite some time now and it definitely has improved my ball striking! In addition to the right hand pointing to the ball, I also feel that there is a "knuckles down" position with my left hand into impact! I like how you caution golfers to keep rotating the body with this arc move in order to get a better compression on the ball! Well Done Andy!!!
Very helpful explanation for the amateur, useful drills to generate the correct feelings. 👍🏻 Thank you!
Great video Andy. Love it. Can't wait to get back at it and use Pete Cowen's technique.
This makes way more sense now. I wasn’t getting this when he was doing this with Danny Maude. This is one of your most game changing lessons.
Yes! Danny Maude loves to make things much more complicated than any normal human can deal with also!
Yeah danny maude is great at making his personal lessons simple to follow but i was (and still am a bit) having difficulty with spinning down the trail arm explanation…for me its more like my left arm is spinning down and my right sort of follows …i give up on completely getting it because ive improved a lot just by the left arm spinning down while keeping the wrist from “flicking “ ,keeping it flexed closed while keeping trail arm/elbow more tucked in (no chicken wing 😬) ..🤷🏼♂️
Thanks Andy, another great video from you 👍
Very well explained, Andy. Pete is brilliant but I don't always get what he's saying where your explanation works. I have a simulator at home and this move is without a doubt the best teaching for my swing in DECADES! Thank you!
explained really well thank you
Another gem......great explanation
Great video well explained thanks
Ah, nice one... Cheers Andy....
Very well explained and finally have a full grasp on this spinning the arm down concept...
Now it's practice, practice, practise..
Then hopefully will get the consistency and muscle memory build up, so no need to think about it all too much.
Can't wait to get on the range...
Cheers
Excellent video Andy!
Excellent Andy !!
Fantastic video Andy 👏
good job Andy;following pete’s visit you need to review the downswing where you show a narrow path with the elbow in the body and Pete says it should be wider for better release.Keep up your super job with clear and to the point.
Great explanation
Andy & Pete are making Chrismas time better!!!! YES!!!!
Thank you nice and simple
That's a wonderful explanation. I'd seen other videos where Pete Cowen 'spins' the right arm but never understood what was going on. Thank you!
Glad it has helped
Absolutely brilliant video Andy. I only have one question. In the dry drill when you are taking the hand back and have fingers to the sky, is this something you should try and feel with the club on the way back? I think this is the only thing I don’t feel all that well with the club in hand as opposed to the dry drill
Great video, Andy 👍👍
Great stuff Andy! Thank you 🙏🏻 Can I implement these swing ideas while using a strong grip?
Andy, I think Pete refers to the combination of forearm pronation + Right Shoulder Rotation. Pete speaks of wide/narrow in your other video (where you interview him).
Wide=Right Shoulder INTERNAL Rotation)
Narrow =Right Shoulder EXTERNAL rotation (in medical lingo).
In short:
right forearm pronation+wide (=right sh INTERNAL rotat.) -> draw move
right forearm pronation+narrow (=right sh. EXTERNAL rotat.) -> fade move
Thank you for your amazing videos!
Good explanation 👏
Awesome! I’ve watched your other videos too, I’m hitting now my iron and driver a lot better. I love your swing btw.
I have been trying this since the previous video and YES, this makes a huge difference. For the first time I seem to have a grasp on just how the ball should be struck. I no longer feel as though I am manipulating the hands in the hope I strike the ball correctly. It just seems to me that my hands are now far more passive. I think this video and the previous one has now put me on the right track - at long last! Thanks for running over this move again.
Yep! In fact, when you do flip the hands you immediately feel the swing is wrong and it doesn’t feel good. It simplifies the golf swing so much!
Great content Andy have been using that drill with great effects on my ions, but now struggling with my Fairway woods. Any tips?
Love this. It confirms and matches the feeling I've been having using a different swing thought I've been using lately: I feel like I torque my arms and wrists counter-clockwise going back (trail arm faces away from target as you said) which basically forces the arms (and thus club) to rotate the other way (clock-wise) as the torque is released which shallows the club. It does require a different intent in the downswing though which to mean feels like I'm rotating my upper body hard throughout to prevent flipping ala DJ/Hovland. loving the feeling of tension it provides at the top too. My default swing is very loosy-goosy at the top so it's very radical feel for me which tells me I'm on the right path! :D
Hey Andy, thanks for the explanation of “Turning the hands down”. At 2.14, you say that the right wrist is flexed, but it’s actually extended (THE WRIST IS IN A POSITION OF EXTENSION). Have tried it and it’s absolutely working for me. I feel like I have something tangible to work on and practice with a purpose. Thanks and Happy New Year!!
Thanks for this. Can you elaborate some on whether a stronger grip would facilitate this? Thanks
Great Advice drill tips Andy..
Well done. I’m going to focus on this next time I’m out. 😊
Nice one, Andy!
Excellent follow-up, Andy
Many thanks!
Hi Andy, the downswing part makes sense with the drill but for me the starting position with fingers out seems to be out of sync with where the right hand starts behind the club?
Thank you!!!
Andy, I agree that you have explained this move very well. You said that the club should 'feel' closed on the downswing. Does this feeling extend to impact position too?
Thanks Andy great video, can you do one on loading the left shoulder
Well done andy 👏 😊
Excellent Andy. Got it now. Question: is a good feel to have that left knee go through that the same time? I have a problem moving it at the right moment.
Great drill
Just subscribed yesterday and watched 3 vids on downswing and I just hit the ball with 60% speed and I
hit 9 fwys and 4 greens for 9 holes.the other 5 greens was right on line but just short of the green.
I've haven't played for 7 months after a bad accident to my lead hand. My question I have always
squared the club with my lead hand. Are you suggesting that we should square the club face with the
trail hand? I've had to weaken my grip of my lead hand and the V is pointing to the outside of my lead
shoulder and my trail hand is point to my chin. This is the only way I can strike the ball without pain.
Thank you for your instruction it is first class.
Peter Cowen and you are amazing. My issue is with the high spin rate with the driver. Any tips appreciated.
When I watched him on Danny Maude, Cowen said spin the right forearm nothing with the hand but keep the angle and he said the weight shift is a result of pushing the right side.. he said focus on spinningb it down with the right shoulder.. seems like quite a different explanation
At last! I had got it a tad the wrong way. So many thanks 😊.
i used this one thought last summer at our league weekend outing tournament and came in second and won a good slug of bucks. i got the info from the danny maude video he did with pete cowen and your video is helpful too. thnx.
Hi Andy, the way i understand "spinning the right forearm" is as follows:
1. It is spinning of forearm only rather than full arm because you have set the elbow for internal rotation. If elbow has any external rotation then upper arm will also rotate.
2. Wrist can do two things flexion/extension and cocking/uncocking. In spinning the right forearm you do uncocking bit only while maintaing the flexion in the right wrist to create the necessary compression.
*extension in the right wrist
Thanks Andy. Is this (drill) also working for the driver?
I need you to do this video again, but go through how your hands feel on the club throughout the swing. Some notes on where you feel pressured, the weight of the club, where your hands are connecting together and with the club, all of this would be amazing
I’m curious to learn more about post impact positions to finish position. Also, how does this work with wedges, woods and driver?
Great for iron compression.
Love it. How do we do this with a fairway wood and get enough loft on the ball.
That has been my struggle.
One of best coaching videos I have seen and one that fills in the gaps from Pete's instruction. I am now finding that i am getting much better compression on the ball and a more penetrating shot. One thing I am not sure about is that this is now inducing a slight over draw / hook. Presumably swing path & face angle needs fine tuning?
Possibly getting the club a little stuck behind or you’re closing the face too much at impact but difficult to advise you specifically without seeing your swing
Would a good swing thought for this be the paint brush analogy Danny maude made a video about recently?
I’m 71 and a new student of Pete Cowan. His process has helped me enormously. I’m now far more consistent. Your demo has added real value to this. Thank you.
I think a lot of the confusion expressed in some of the comments here stems from the word "spin." You don't spin your right arm; you pronate your right forearm, which creates downward pressure on your right wrist and hand. Personally, I have found it helpful to think of (rather, feel) this move as a more advanced version of Pete Cowen's celebrated axe drill. Practice that and this drill follows naturally.
Hi Andy I see you nailed the tight draw with the Pete Cowen technique could you maybe do a video on that,Do you spin the right arm from the inside,load the shoulders differently, drop the arms and weight in your lead foot and hold the turn off little longer?
Great vlog and explanation of that Andy - plus some sizzling shots from you too.
Hope you enjoyed the sun out there; currently snowy here as I watched the vlog.
Cheers
Andy, sometimes golf pro tuition is a bit like watching magic tricks. The hand drill demo was effective in showing what the right hand is doing - therefore the right arm must be ‘rotating’ anti-clockwise on the down swing to impact (right handers when clockwise is looking toward target) and the left arm rotates clockwise. So you’ll understand the confusion when the ‘wringing out the towel drill’ always appears to show the hands/arms rotating inward (thumbs toward thumbs) rather than outward? Or have I missed something? Be grateful for your guidance please. Pete Cowan is a world class coach and one of my go to for instruction.
Pete, talks about fade and draw, is the motion the same for right Hand palm hinged ?
Pete Cowen is the master at saying a lot of words without getting his point across. Always vague, never to the point, but 30 minutes later he sounds very convincing.
Thank you for the drill! I was wondering, can the same feeling of spinning down work with the driver ?
Absolutely. The spinning down is a totally natural move, its just difficult to understand the terminology. All it is really doing is putting the club into the neutral delivery position
Great explanation. Pete talked about the timing of this spin can be used to setup a draw or a fade, depending on how early or late it is performed. How does that work? Thanks Andy
This is exactly the part I’m missing/ not clear on as well
Oh yes.... Good point....
I too was a bit confused with this....
He made it sound easy to control the ball with the timing... But I didn't get it!! Lol
Bristol very sunny and warm for this time of year😂. Would you suggest doing the right hand drill everyday until the feels natural?
lovely
Great video Andy. I tries this yesterday and I felt my strikes improve massively. One question does this work exactly the same for driver
Absolutely. Technically its just keeping the swing and face neutral
I've always done this, but also always struggled with open clubface and low-point issues. It's constantly fat and struck behind the ball and my clubface is 90% of the time open. You're explanation is exactly what I feel in my right hand/arm. I don't know why I'm struggling with the other issues I've described above
Both issues are probably linked. If you've got an open clubface, you're probably subconsciously dumping away the wrist angle in an attempt to square the clubface which is causing you to hit the ground early. Try moving your grip around to make it easier or more comfortable to close the clubface. If your body feels the clubface is more closed, it's less likely to subconsciously dump away the wrist angles to try square the face. I've suffered with this for a long time, that's how I fixed my open face and fat shots, hope it helps 👍
Additionally, fat shots could be caused by ball position being too far forward - means you catch the ball slightly out to in.
Could also be that your weight is too far on your trail side. Give them all a try 👍
Would be nice to know what point on the ground in relation to the ball and stance you are pushin your hand down towards. From a first person view
This works well for my irons but can't get it to work for my driver. Any modifications I should be doing for driver?
Nice drill what I try and do is think as if the toe of the club is closing and I actually manipulate the toe to close when I do my downswing not sure if that’s what this means but it’s what I’ve been doing and it seems to work. Is this right ?
Love it, tried it yesterday with my feet together. The sound at impact was awesome. Thinking of practicing like this and slowly widening stance until I get mishits . Any thoughts Andy?
Yeah exactly what Pete was encouraging. Get the strike 1st then add speed but widening the stance.
The feet together is a huge help for transition
Me too! Putting the feet together really helped and when everything is done correctly I don’t lose any yardage. I played a round like that and had my best round. I’m going to continue playing like that until the swing and timing is second nature and why not? I’m not losing anything. I have tried doing it with a regular stance and I gained 10-15 yards depending on the iron.
Hey Andy thanks again shot 79 today … 44 points nearly got run out of town!!
Great explanation! Really wish it wasn't winter just rearing it's ugly head in the southern most tip of Canada. LOL. I've got SO much I've got to work on and no place to swing a club. Thanks for the info and any drills you can provide for us SnowMexicans would be fantastic! Cheers.
I'm in Ontario so I made myself a sim in my garage back in 2020 and I'm loving it for technical work during winter. You could do it on the cheap with R10 but I'd recommend the Mevo+ personally so you can have automatic video review after every shot with metrics to confirm you're doing what you feel you are.
Peter talks about spinning the arm not hand. Yes its confusing, its basically keep the right hand angle "hold the plate" on the way down as you "extend/straighten" your right arm as fast as possible. The two combo as you turn feels to him like spinning. This creates speed, delofts club and easier face control. This is part of the modern golf swing move prevalent theses days in the tour. Good luck!
Do you do the same with hybrid n fairway Woods?
Still not clear? I don’t see any spinning. Is the trail forarm pronating or supinating?
Hi
Great video..thanks 🙂
Tried this today and although it was working quite well it felt like I was catching some a bit thin... Any advice to stop this?
Possibly a little stuck inside but its hard to say without seeing your swing as this method is great for golfers who are both too steep or too shallow
Thanks very much for the reply 🙂. Gonna also try pushing left hip towards the target at set up as per your other video.
I’m a really high handicapper and I tried learning the Pete cowen swing and I thought I had it but I didn’t get very good distance but the direction of the ball was great. I ended up giving up on the swing and tried to find something else.
However about a week ago before a round I went to the driving range to warm up and on a whim I tried the swing again but this time I tried it with my feet together (based on a comment Pete said to you in another video). Holy cow! Not only was the swing effortless but it went the expected distance and to the target! I used the swing for the round that day and had my best round.
That being said, I still need to practice doing it because it’s still not automatic and when I feel like I’m just a tad off I get less power and I feel like I’m not rotating enough or the timing is off.
What are the chances of me being able to send you a video of my swing to tell me if I’ve got the swing right?
Feet together is truly one of the best drills ever, also great as a pre shot routine drill
Thanks for explaining what spinning the right arm down is , and how best to accomplish it. I haven't had the opportunity to try to put it into play yet, but plan to try it based on your instruction. Any concern with this palm and fingers down move that it could be overdone? Would it not be the right type of move that someone that's bad shot tends to be on the low side, or someone that hits 7-8* downward angle of attack on their irons? or Would those types of things not be a concern for this type of movement pattern?
Ive seen Pete teach this technique, to one your other piers, I’ve trying to implement this technique into my swing. To say, easier said then done but I continue to improve. Big miss is when I don’t keep my wrist bent and release them to early. Sometimes I hit one or two fat or thin! Or I allow my elbow to fly which promotes a push to the right weak floaty ball flight. However, when I do it right, I feel, hear and see a professional sounding ball coming off the club face.
When I do the swing correctly (meaning the ball goes the expected distance and straight all with minimal effort) I feel zero flipping. I naturally flip the hands if I don’t rotate enough or my timing is off.
I get all this, but struggle to translate it to a driver swing as can’t comprehend compressing it on an upward impact
Many thanks, please can you confirm if the ‘spinning’ is clockwise or anticlockwise. Cheers John
Anticlockwise feel.
Its technically just following the arc of the swing. Its a feel
The forearm doesnt turn anymore than thd clubface or body. It keeps everything working together where most amateurs dont
There a reason why pete is one of the best coach, the secret here is compression, if you cannot learn it, its gonna be hard to go to the next level.
If you watch Morikawa, I think he is the most obvious compression that you can learn from.
I have seen pete cowen talk about this right arm move with at least three youtube coaches.i have found it easy to understand.i have found it helpfull to my game.but like any coaching its not going to suit everyone. No need to disrespect him if it doesnt suit your game
Andy,
Can you tell me if the classic golf greats, like Woods, Nicklaus, Watson, Miller used this technique? As best I can tell, these players did not approach impact like you described. Woods seems to rotate through impact with his right arm rolling over his left after impact. I’m 63 and cannot learn the technique you describe in this video. I strike it very well letting rotating through impact but cannot swing any other way. (I don’t think Leadbetter taught Faldo this technique.) Curious of your thoughts.
Thanks
Yes all players release the golf club and the right arm rotates around the swing arc just like it did on the backswing and the way back down to the ball. You're maybe misunderstanding the concept, but one thing people do misunderstand if that they think Pete is trying to coach them to hold it off, which is not the case. Look at Poulter, Westwood, McIlroy for example
A great drill and nice explanation. However those with limited range of movement may struggle with this and stand up in the backswing to create these angles so be cautious this isn't for everyone 👍
Absolutely right. But most swings we coach are subject to a players mobility
I am struggling with trying to achieve shaft lean and to stop flipping… this movement pattern you are explaining provides some help with the technique required. But I see the palm of your right hand facing away (toward the camera) at shaft parallel in your downswing then the right forearm rotating the palm down to the ground as the movement continues towards impact… is this the movement that you are detailing?
For me, it feels like I never flip or release the trail wrist. It requires trusting that your club will get to the ball. It also requires proper rotation and timing. If you haven’t tried it yet, in another video Pete said amateurs should play with their feet together. Once I did that the swing felt very natural and effortless and I didn’t lose any distance and was on target way more than any other swing I’ve used.
This only works for me, if I right side bend correctly. No amount of rotation, or downward pressure works for me ( I'll top it or early extend )without.
This was helpful, Andy. Pete described this right arm "spinning" move in another TH-cam video, and to be honest, the concept was - or is, quite confusing. It would be easy to translate this into a slamming or casting move which would be disastrous and not what Mr. Cowen would ever want. Regardless, it will take a lot of practice (of course) and at face value was a head scratcher to understand at first.
Yes i think it takes a few watches to understand it, but when you do its GOLD.
I just try and translate some of it for ease
Spinning the right arm down has changed my ball striking with my irons. Does this also apply to driver?
Yes absolutely. In essence it is just putting the club into a neutral delivery position
Genius
If the drill has your fingers pointing at the target... How is it possible to dothat with a club in your hand? When I do this with a club, my fingers are pointing behind my back. What am I not understanding?
The other point Pete made, when explaining spinning the arm, was that there had to be pressure on the shaft at last parallel. It does make a difference.
I’m more of a left arm puller,I’m interested in your awareness of the left arm while spinning your right forearm down .when ever I try this new method I lose the feeling of my left arm being involved
Please give me your opinion. Thanks
I would keep the left arm behind the shoulders, or feel like the bicep stays tight to the chest
thank you very much Now a French golfer has finally understood 😂
Always glad to help my French friends 👊🏽👌🏽
Read about this move from the 20s just worded different.
Bloody ‘ell … I’ve just had an ‘Ah ha’ moment! Does this principle remain with driver too? (I’m a bit of a slicer and inconsistent striker with irons) Thanks Andy …
Yes absolutely- all clubs
@@andycartergolf Thanks mate … was just about to head out and try … the heavens have opened … you gotta love London eh? Great video… subscribed … 😊
Is there any difference when hitting driver or 3 wood off the grass?
No, it moves the same
Hello . . . . . . Is this the same principal with the driver ??? Or is it different?? Or is the driver the same , but with a different setup ??
Thanks a lot . . . . .
Same same buddy. The video is describing delivery position which is important for all clubs
@andycartergolf cool . . Cheers buddler
I like the concept, but I’m not surprised if people were confused by the term “spinning”. Nothing is really spinning. Except perhaps a bit of reverse rotation of the trail forearm, but I wouldn’t call it a spin. I saw the Danny Maude video with Cowen and even Maude seemed a bit confused.
Rotation is a spin. But spin doesnt have to be a lot. Its a terminology but hopefully this video helps give it a different view.
Danny wouldnt be as familiar with the concept either so possibly he was listening to it for the 1st time too.
Andy, can you show this with a driver as well ? Is it same concept ?
Absolutely the same. Its all about delivery position
To echo many others, Cowan’s manoeuvre explained in simple terms that make sense. My only concern for the average golfer (me) is not overdoing the downward lunge and hitting behind the ball. If your body action doesn’t follow the desired path that it was will happen. Cowan days this is automatic - maybe for an athletic player but not natural for everyone.
A good golf coach knows how to interpret this into coaching. Most amateurs dont im afraid