Richard the problem is that you are working on reason and logic, but you are up against Politicians and especially Civil Servants who come from the planet Zog
Let's always remember The WEF GLOBALIST Goal They Don't Want You To Have Your Own Vehicles... Travel Zones within The Designated 15min ( Districts )-Important Word
Government want less people driving - what better way than to mandate a technology that does not work for everybody is too expensive for many and has limited range. Job done
I can't fill up the tank at home. But if I had a solar farm, I could fill a car without paying the oil corporations or the government. Isn't EV actually the independent option Vs petrol?
@@barry5138 what is there to maintain? Wash them every 3-6 months. Enjoy free energy. Either way a solar farm brings independence from the system. Oil corporations want you to be a customer for life. Independence comes from free solar energy
I will, probably, be charging up on that big charger in the sky by 2030. No EV for me, not because I hate them but because I refuse to be bullied by an idiot Government.
Even if you had the money to make the attempt, you’d find no barrister would take the government on & no judge would rule against the government. All corrupt together.
The country will ground to a halt if the policy is pursued with it's current timeline.There will be thousands ,if not millions of job loses in the motor trade. and other sectors.The most vulnerable in society,will be left behind,on cost,including the inability to charge ,due to probably residing in property's such as flats and multiple occupancy accomodation. Service workers on minimum wage such as carers who rely on cars , in the rural areas ,from what I have seen driving cars more than 12-15 years of age will not be able to afford EVs . Young drivers will be priced out completely.Those who have money need not worry. Second hand petrol and diesel cars will likely see huge incease in prices rises as 2030 approaches.Why should the UK ,that produces a minimal amount of pollution, destroy it's economy and inflict this on the population,when the worst polluting countries,such as China,Russia and India and USA continue do nothing .This is a ill conceived vanity project invented by those who understand nothing .😢
Thank you. I think it is just common sense,something the political (elite) , as they like to think they are , cannot grasp ,as they are so detached from reality,they are in a fantasy world. The everyday normal person pays the price, I do hope they will see sense ,before it is too late.
This is how green EVs are, 500,000 lbs of rock are mined with oil or coal to make every so say green battery, they need to take the blinkers off and look it up. Mark P Mills at Hillsdale College.
They understand perfectly! This is part of an agenda, a wide-ranging attack on personal freedoms. Surely it's only a matter of time before everyone realises this
I agree with half of this. As an EV owner I believe it should be left to the market and not mandated. Disagree with the second car thing. My EV is pretty much an only car - I do have a second car but that’s a hobby V8. The EV is what I use for daily use / holidays etc. if I had to go to the other end of the country tomorrow I’d 100% take the EV (as I often have!)
I’ve been called a nut job and conspiracy theorist over my views on this. Lets not sugar coat this, the future of motoring as we know and enjoy ,is hanging in the balance, all because manufacturers have a gun to their heads to bring to market and sell EVs which are not evolved enough to be ready for market. One by one, the legacy manufacturers will go bankrupt, the only choice would will be Chinese built EVs. Remember communist countries where the only choice was a trabant or a lada ? This is complete madness, hundreds of thousands of job losses , and all for what? to shift carbon emissions from our country to China , that isn’t saving the planet. EVs should be boycotted by buyers and motoring journalists, and any motoring journalist who is EV biased is basically hammering nails into their own coffin.
India’s economic forecast for 2025 states that they expect oil consumption to increase by 330,000 barrels per day, increase on current useage. What the hell difference will some EVs in the Uk make? None.
What’s the environment got to do with it? Do you want to keep paying through the nose for motoring? Fuel, those rip off regular services the car needs and maintenance of all those moving parts. No thanks I’ll drive around for pennies. You stick to your money pits.
Spot on, I was gonna make the same point until I read your message. Come 2030 I want to again purchase another performance petrol car, nothing else. If I can’t, I’ll buy a second hand one before the deadline and run it for as long as possible. Hopefully these clowns will be thrown out of power by then anyway and the whole policy is scrapped….
If the UK went all electric then the caravan and motorhome industry and associated tourism will be finished. I drive a non-plug in mild hybrid diesel XC90 towing a 1900k caravan giving me a near 300 mile range towing plus another 100 miles when solo on arrival before the fuel light come on. The new Volvo line up does not included diesel in any form only a petrol non plug in mild hybrid so the towing mpg and and all important torque will be much less. On our routes we take I've not seen one drive through EV charger suitable for towing outfits or motorhomes and if there was imagine the queues. Some touring sites have maybe 2 or 3 charging points and don't allow charging at the pitch due to aging infrastructure so this would need addressing.
The motorhome and caravan industry is nearly dead…sky high prices and now cars that can’t tow more than 150 miles. See Harry’s Garage about his recent EV towing experience
I own an ICE diesel - dont have an issue with EVs as far as the tech is concerned. But I am of the opinion that an EV should take us forwards not backwards in terms of personal mobility. I see the following issues as big roadblock for me 1) limited real range 2) recharging time 3) limited infrastructure 4) expensive public charging 5) expensive to buy and finally 7) lack of garages that service EVs.
1) 200 miles is enough for 99% of trips. 2) Most EVs charge overnight so no issue. Away from home people stop for 20 to 30 minute breaks anyway every few hours so charge takes no extra time. 3) Currently 785 hubs of 6 or more Rapid chargers and there are another 591 in planning and power supply. Its only a perceived problem by people who don't drive an EV. 4) It is expensive to charge in public. It is actually just as expensive as petrol per mile. Outrageous isn't it. But what's your point there? 5) Yes. Thats true. But it won't be long before parity. 7) Every dealer where you buy EVs will be happy to service their cars.
@Hitstirrer there's 33million cars in the UK that's without lorries, plant etc & you think 700 charging points is going to be OK!! Wtf 40% of UK houses haven't got drives/garages to home charge! What about builders like myself i drive between 120 & 200 miles a day & carry a tonne of tools/materials in my van and ev will never be suitable for people like myself Government shouldn't be forcing this ridiculous mandate
@@pauldavies7251 It's 785 x 6 = 4710. Plus another 591 in planning x 6 = 3546. Plus many thousands of sites with up to 6 chargers. As well as dozens of Tesla supercharge sites with dozens of Rapids that are now open to all EVs. That is enough for today's fleet. And they will increase as the fleet increases just as they have done over the last five years. People without drives can use those. They are expensive though. But guess what, they would then be paying exactly the same price per mile as they do at present to fill a petrol car. Your van use is a small % of the entire fleet and if you drive that far it must be 6 hours of your day sitting driving. However, I absolutely agree with you that inept politicians have got this mandate totally wrong. People will always react to a forced agenda. And that starts people writing anti-EV comments which are factually incorrect as they try to resist change. EVs are perfectly able to stand on their own feet and if left alone and people were not being pushed they would try them out and find them to be 'better' all round. All of the negatives posted about EVs are out of date. Perhaps five years ago the points were valid. But not now. People should take time to update their knowledge base and stop just repeating what they are told to believe by TH-camrs with an agenda for clickbait.
@@HitstirrerEVs are good for some journeys not 99%. So everyone needs two cars then, for those other journeys,or perhaps just one car that will do 100 % of journeys like errr an Ice car perhaps.
I think that we call EVs zero emission vehicles is the biggest con of all. They're not zero emission and infact they have a huge Co2 foot print. To offset this, an EV takes 8 years to catch up with the combustion engine vehicles. EVs may have a place but don't be fooled by the hype that you're doing good by buying them. E fuels are the best option in my opinion. We already have the infrastructure for it, prices would stabilize so could be affordable very quickly, all current combustion vehicles can run on it and its zero emissions. Just to also add, its far better for the environment to keep and old car running on E fuels than producing these horrid EVs. If these policy makers had any concern for the environment, this would be the way forward but this is not the case. Taxing us out of our current combustion vehicles and into EVs only serves to fill their pockets. Sorry if I sound negative regarding EVs but anyone with any common sense can see that this is not the way forward.
I always believed we live in a democracy and not a dictatorship I will not be told what I can and cannot drive it’s my choice we all have a freedom of choice
I remember a similar 'Freedom of Choice' argument about smoking in public spaces. Where is the freedom of choice in my not breathing in your NOx and particulates from ICE?
2 problems with plug in hybrids that you didn’t mention. 1. When the battery runs out then you are just having to carry around a big heavy battery for no benefit, resulting in worse fuel consumption. 2. No good for towing any great distances. When the battery runs out you are left with an underpowered engine for the task.
I think you will find that this is not the case with Toyota C-HR PHEV that do 50+ gallon. Sorry just cant get used to km liter. Perhaps it is because all our signs are in miles
@@mikejoseph425I have a friend that had a diesel Audi SUV company car that averaged 35mpg, he was forced to replace it with a plug in hybrid version for tax purposes and he now only gets 25mpg average.
You make a good point but it’s not entirely true. The battery is never dead because of the regeneration braking and also I tow a caravan all round the UK with a plug in hybrid absolutely fine. Albiet my caravan is a small one so I would struggle to upgrade to a bigger one with my car which is the Audi A3 TFSIe. The petrol engine is a 1.4. It does however deliver fantastic fuel economy its has to be said. Between 55mpg when no charge and up to and beyond 110mpg as a hybrid. When towing the caravan it’s between 30 and 36MPG depending on the charge in the high voltage battery.
I’m a minority with a caravan along with leisure vehicle. Being forced to pick ev doesn’t work for me I have drive and able to charge but no hybrid or ev made the shortlist and I opted for diesel. the leisure businesses are slow to uptake on this either in offerings in van or cars with ability to tow with any weight. Never seen any ev on a campsite and most don’t have ability to charge onsite. so I fear for the leisure industry and my ability for freedom going forward. The luxury car tax of over 40k is inhibiting change for most folks too. Don’t mind paying a tax but want ability to see where this goes or even pick. Not just pay for ev subsidies
Snap! I’m in exactly the same position, and have recently bought a 2020 BMW diesel mild hybrid. I don’t expect to buy another new car for the rest of my life because I don’t think anything suitable will be available.
Richard there are a lot of us that enjoy caravanning. The car manufacturers are not catering really for them. A PHEV is to complicated you kind of need the battery systems to be switched off for towing. Non of the PHEVs I’ve looked at are manual and even using an auto box for towing can cause overheating issues. EVs and PHEvs have been designed to move people with the lowest emissions and not as practical vehicles for recreation. Your 60g of CO2 is bang on because if you take in to account the carbon output of the grid 182g of CO2per kWh (see below) of CO2 the EV charging losses and EV efficiency you get a similar figure for remote EV emissions. A quick summary of the governments transmission factor report The latest UK Government Emissions factors were published on 8th July 2024. These figures can be used for accurately reporting the carbon impact of business energy use. We have provided a summary of the main points in relation to grid electricity and natural gas emission factors. Note that the electricity grid factors are based on 2022 grid mix data. This lag is standard and the 2024 factors should be used for calendar year 2024 emissions reporting. The transmission and generation (T&D) emissions factor for grid electricity has increased from 2023 figure of 0.01792 kg CO2e per kWh to 0.01830 kg CO2e per kWh. The generation emissions factor for grid electricity has not changed significantly from the 2023 figure, 0.20707 kg CO2e per kWh, to 0.20705 kg CO2e per kWh. This means that the combined factor that most companies use is marginally higher than the 2023 figure of 0.22499 kg CO2e per kWh at 0.22535 kg CO2e per kWh. The natural gas emissions factor for 2024 has decreased slightly from the 2023 figure of 0.18293 kg CO2e per kWh to 0.18290 kg CO2e per kWh.
@ a lot of the PHEVs have lower MLTP recommendations. They are complex pieces of kit and auto boxes and integrated hybrid motors. I’m not sure and it’s not something that has a lot of data.
Write to your MP (who will be due for re-election before 2030) and tell them you are opposed to this legislation. Ask them where the copper for the cabling and lithium for the batteries is coming from and who will pay for chargers (two needed for some households even if they park in the street) and infrastructure (lots of road digging up) for a nationwide switch to electric cars. I wrote to my MP yesterday.
@@Yorkshire-z5v China but is there enough Lithium for everyone to have an electric car with a lithium battery? No, I didn't think so which is another reason an electric future is foolish.
You need to separate the arguments for air pollution and CO2. Check out the geologist Ian Pilner and how he explains global warming and cooling over thousands of years; he is not a lone voice. We currently are seeing so much of the infrastructure for net zero manufactured in China which has the worse environmental standards, that anything that happens here will be dwarfed by comparison. If you take a broader view than just the car industry then our current course will have a devastating effect on the wealth of this country; that will affect the poorest in society hardest.
Richard; What about cars that need to tow? We love our caravan. A diesel vehicle is the ONLY solution. Are we at the point where caravaning is lost to us? Regards.
The final killer is the ratcheting up of Benefit in Kind tax which is going up every year, to 9% in 2029. That will mean over £4k of yearly BiK tax for a high-rate tax payer on a £100k EV. That will have a big impact on EV sales.
Some great points. One area no one seems to mention is emergency vehicles, totally impractical for battery power. The recent hurrucane in the US = power grid down, people in EV's couldn't escape the area and you can't drive an EV through floodwater!
First time watcher here Richard, alot of great points in the video. I agree with setting limitations on hybrids, mild and total ice vehicles ect as it is logical way forward. The zero emission target of 2030 is a pipedream from the government. A EV doesn't work for me because of my job traveling around the country testing ventilation and heating systems. So the range and ability to charge would be a hassle in order to make it work. Currently driving around in a 15 year old petrol car because of my budget and that it complies with ulez as I can't claim that charge back. I advised a non car lover work colleague of mine a couple of years ago to go for a hybrid. He went for a Toyota self charging hybrid and it suited his needs perfectly as he doesn't have a wall charger.
Hi what about the caravan market that will be dead as well, have you tried charging with a caravan!!!!! , and campervan/ motorhome they don't want you travelling 😡
If a petrol station serves 1000 customers in a day at 5 mins a pop, how long will it take 1000 people wanting to charge for 30/45/90 mins ? Whole cities will turn into carparks full of folk waiting to charge and need a power station to serve them.
Nearly all charge at home overnight. And use power that is 'spare' overnight as industry shuts down then. Some then also stop once if on a long trip but only a few do that. They stop at one of around 800 large charge hubs of 6 to 12 Rapid chargers and rarely queue. And there are another 600 hubs of at least 6 Rapid chargers awaiting planning permission to cover next years growth. You are imagining things that won't happen.
@@Hitstirrer Rapid chargers need the grid to be capable of supplying the power as and when needed, this is NOT viable and will not work because our infrastructure is miles behind today's needs and at present is only capable of producing 3% more than required on a normal day, also rapid charging is known to shorten the lifespan of the battery.
@@JackOfski Try asking the people who run the grid rather than repeating what you have been told to repeat. They are not concerned and at present, they welcome an increase in EV use to mop up excess overnight power that causes them to shut down some plants overnight. There are plans to store that same excess overnight power as well so that it can boost any increase in day use without building more generation. Do you really think that the grid management is sitting there 'wringing its hands' in misery? Or is it at all possible that they have seen the changing needs and are planning accordingly? As to Rapid charging issues. That can indeed be a concern for older EVs using older type batteries. But in reality, there are still hundreds of EV taxis that ONLY rapid charge and have racked up 200,000 miles. That view is also being overturned by the latest battery chemistry as they can tolerate rapid and high charge rates much better these days. In fact, a lot of adverse comments we see these days is based on old information from the early days of EV use. People really should update their knowledge base rather than regurgitate outdated fears that no longer apply.
I work for the grid and it won’t take it. Places like Cheltenham have 8-10 big houses running of 25mm single phase cable. 7km of 33kv and hv cable was required for Aust services off the M4 towards Wales for the charging points
A balanced view combining common sense with progress. If reports are accurate the EU and UK are selling their industry and workforce down the river. Cheap Chinese EV's will flood the market further putting a nail in the coffin of european manufacturers. Government do not listen, however, the buying public can make a difference by not buying into an impractical policy! I have purchased 10 litres of fuel for my classic motorcycle that will do a maximum of 100 miles in a year, this can be purchased from garden centres now! Finally, how has wind and solar generation faired during the Christmas period? Where I live, we have had next to zero sunshine combined with very low wind levels!
Harry has 200lt barrels of E fuel from Coryton in his garage. Hand pump on the top, perfect for your classic and it's always nice to be independent and have bulk fuel at home. Easier with diesel obvs. Nice video, balanced view on the situation as always.
About the stupidest thing you can do is store 200ltr barrels of fuel in your garage. It’s a ridiculous fire hazard in itself let alone a ridiculous hazard if there’s a fire near it.
@@CreepyTrendMan Yes I’m a Karen, a Karen with a fully functional brain unlike you it would seem if you think storing barrels of highly flammable liquid in your garage isn’t just plain dumb!. Go ask the local firefighters how they feel about it, especially when they have to come and put the fire out and retrieve someone’s charred corpse
@@CreepyTrendMan Go and ask the local fire brigade how they feel about someone storing 200ltrs of highly flammable liquid fuel in a garage. I suspect you wouldn’t because you know how completely stupid it is. The fire fighters won’t be to pleased when they have to deal with the carnage of it all going wrong and trying to drag a bbqd corpse out of an engulfed garage.
I have a blue badge & notice how many EVs are now in the disabled bays. The Mobilty scheme is pushing them onto the disabled often giving them no ICE choice. Often these EVs are not suitable for many disabled people for numerous reasons
There isn’t an EV option for towing our 2 ton caravan. Towing with an EV is not really an option even for a small caravan with the challenge of charging, but for a heavy caravan there simply isn’t one. And the range is so limited when towing too.
In what world does it make sense to grow a crop to be turned into Ethanol to be burned in a car? Any crop grown on arable land should be for food production in an increasingly unstable world. Plus more ethanol in fuel means more water absorption therefore more corrosion and wear in the fuel system, also it can lead to algae build up in fuel tanks etc.
I used to be the person who said I'd be the last person driving around trying to find a garage for petrol (remember doing this for 2* petrol lol) but with advances in electric cars I'm more open to the idea. However, I don't feel the tech is quite there yet especially the infrastructure to supply the increased demand of electric.
I don’t think the manufacturers will go bust, but there is a strong possibility that they will deem the UK market too restrictive, and just stop selling new cars here. They have little incentives to create UK specific models anymore, and may just decide to concentrate on the the left hand drive markets where they come from (talking abt mainly Europe here)! Another nail in the UK ecomony thanks to the dimwits currently in charge!
While China continues to burn huge amounts of coal and many countries still rely on oil and gas, the transition to EVs - from a climate point of view - will make virtually no difference. The government cannot force consumers to buy EVs. Since EVs are not the solution for all consumers, the ZEV mandate is doomed to fail. The ZEV mandate is crazy and the financial burden on car and van manufacturers as they transition to EVs will cause untold damage (job losses, etc.). EVs are best suited for people who can charge their vehicles at home and only use them for short journeys. There are many issues limiting the adoption of EVs: high purchase price; limited and expensive public charging; range anxiety. Mass adoption of EVs will require additional generation of electricity and improvements to the transmission grid infrastructure. The consumer will ultimately pay for these capital projects in higher taxes.
We have four cars, mine my wife’s and we have two sons who live at home. We don’t have a big enough electric supply to have four chargers. We only have a big enough supply for one charger. We also have a business and we have diggers, dumpers, tractors, telehandlers, ride on mowers and things like that. I can’t see how our business could operate if they were all electric.
I’m astonished that the general public hasn’t realised that all western (democratic) governments are in lockstep with a supranational environmental mandate that ignores the FREE Market Economy. This is an unprecedented situation that is tantamount to tyranny more than a free democracy. EV is a partial personal transport solution only. FYI I have owned a small EV commuter for 5 years and charge at home via photovoltaic generation. But I also own a large ICE 4WD for towing, bad weather events (particularly flooding) and general purpose utility work. I can’t imagine life without the ICE 4WD, especially when it floods near my home.
Barrie Crampton tells you the used car sales facts, lease one if you have to, can charge on your drive, or it suits your needs. They don't suit my needs so I want a petrol car with minimal electronics. Mechanics would enjoy their job again. I bought a two-year old Ford Transit, smiley front 2.5 Di LWB in 1997, it lasted eight years, snapped two timing belts on the go and still did 365,000 miles, that engine still passed the emissions when the gearbox went and it was looking a bit untidy. Electric vans will never come anywhere close to that sustainability so stick your ev, net zero nonsense where the sun shines. I did a 150 miles plus three days a week in that van, an EV would have destroyed me, I couldn't contemplate the charging complications involved in that run. I would have to send a van to Gatwick CHARGE! Bluewater CHARGE, three stops in London possibly get to Colnbrook CHARGE, Driver goes home when he get's to Heathrow. Driver goes home? What about Reading, Luton, Milton Keynes, back to Heathrow, drive around for six drops and home?
I think PooTube seems to have lost my original comment, but a significant concern of mine is around the infrastructure requirements to deal with all the additional weight and transportation issues and the handling of fires/chemistries reactions in different scenarios and the impacts on health and well being. Li based chemistries fires are highly carcinogenic even just to the skin and its smoke. What is in place to deal with this, what will F&RS need to have to manage these situations, management of old/damaged assets and the post processing of them? Huge amount of hidden costs that seemingly are overlooked notwithstanding the fact the generation and transmission is still a huge headache and won’t be able to viably meet the need/expectation. Superchargers are the gold standard, rarely are they out of service or damaged/poor condition and service is reliable - this cannot be said for any of the competition/alternates. Surely for people to embrace BEVs, accessibility and reliability of the recharging service needs to be as ubiquitous, reliability, available and cheap.
The biggest problem is we have technocrats that are living in an ideology world! They need to allow the market to decide, let the scientists and developers to produce efficient vehicles. One big point to look at would be co2 per mile, and do it properly and I bet the fossil fuels will be proven to be more efficient
We’re already struggling against the likes of china in general, this will be even more so going forward, especially the traditional car manufacturers. Why impose a nonsensically policy to strangle ourselves even more. The whole thing is ill informed. We should be using a combination of ALL; ICE, PHEV, MHEV, EV and Hydrogen, the all have their advantages and disadvantages depending on the application, deciding on the method (EV) and mandating it across the board it just plain crazy. Let the engineers sort out which technology we use, not the politicians. I am actually an EV fan, but, in the right application, i.e personal or inner city transportation, it’s simply not going to work for commercial vehicles, haulage or construction and for that reason, so why try and force it and strangle ourselves. All done under the false pretense of ‘cutting emissions’. It’s a global problem and should be tackled on a global basis, we should be focusing on the areas which will have the biggest impact, even if they’re not in our continent.
The next step is to increase duty on fuel to such a point it will price people off the road. It’s coming for sure, it’s an extremely easy way to enforce the reduction of ICE cars being used if you decide to keep yours and defy their rules.
Richard for president, viva the presidente. Thanks for the voice of reason, thanks for all the great content in 2024, keep well, all the best for 2025.
I think it may be worth distinguishing better between mild hybrid, full hybrid and plugin hybrid. The Clio you mention is actually a full hybrid, in that the electric motor and battery are able to power the vehicle in EV mode directly for a short period up to about 30mph. A mild hybrid typically is just assisting a petrol engine, very small battery, and low voltage. I think your mandate could state that hybrids should have the ability to drive the vehicle electrically (full hybrid) with a low CO2 emission, and mild hybrid vehicles may be a concession to be outlawed. Just a thought.
@ I do t think they do a mild hybrid now, the options on the UK website are TCe 90 petrol or E-Tech Full Hybrid. The only reason I picked this up was I have recently purchased a Renault Arcana Full hybrid and was looking at the Clio for my daughter just yesterday at the dealership…
@ I switched to hybrid back in February, a Renault E-Tech Full hybrid and it is perfect for my use case. Really happy with it. I will however be keeping my 10 year old diesel disco 4 until it dies, love that too 👍
JCB are now looking into hydrogen and have got diggers working on some sites, as a truck driver a few years ago lng was ment to be the fuel of the future, but like all good ideas the government would rather use all go electric!!
Firstly those in positions of power should be leading by example. So when the Prime Minister and the Mayor of London switch to full electric then I might just sit up and take note.
How will the millions of people living in flats and terraced houses manage to charge their battery operating cars? The cost to them is not affordable if they have to pay through the nose at public charhers all the time. This issue I believe is greater than range anxiety.
What is being proposed is ill considered legislation and cannot go ahead without causing significant adverse effects. As I understand it it only applies to passenger cars and not bikes or commercials. If it’s just about reducing CO2 then making changes to the construction industry would have a far greater impact effect e.g. low carbon cost concrete. Construction vehicles still produce vast amounts of CO2 and as they use red diesel they don’t even pay full fuel duty. Once again the government proposals will hurt the very people that voted them into power in the first place. I’d be hugely surprised should this policy take effect in 2030. I just don’t see how the national grid is supposed to provide power for the plethora of new EVs that will need to connect to the grid by December 2029.
Another thing. E-fuels are a con. The analogy I use is a gin and tonic. If it’s an E-10 G&T then one is paying for the 10% tonic at the full gin cost. But one needs more to have the same effect. Same with E-fuels, you need more volume to give the same outcome (in this case MPG). I say do the test and see for yourself - I did on all of my petrol cars and my 3 motorcycles and the outcome was that I’m never fulling up with E10 petrol when the E5 is available. Another consideration is where is the ethanol coming from? Answer, a lot of it from Brazil where they are cutting down the rain forest to grow more maze which is distilled into ethanol then shipped half way around the world in diesel powered ships burning the dirtiest high sulfur fuel. I am ex large global oil company and 10 years ago I spent 18 months in Brazil and I witnessed the destruction of the rain forest and recent reports is that things have only become worse. All this so that some supercilious faceless out of touch politician can fly around the world in private jets attending meetings saying how we are going to be leaders in the move to green energy. It’s utter crap!
You are right. When they introduced E10 I smelled a rat. I prefer to use E5 although it is slightly more expensive. I can still get it at the pumps and was assured by motor mechanics that it does no harm and in fact keeps the engine cleaner and performance is noticeably improved.
Richard - a nice balanced video. Our household as two BeV cars and generally my wife and I can decide who will charge their car overnight. I do not believe in PhEVs are a viable solution as they need to be charged each night as the EV only range is close to what most people will do in a day. It has to be a discipline. Your personal case of needing to charge 2+ cars per night shows the challenge but not technically insurmountable with an intelligent multi headed charge point. I've not found the public charging infrastructure wanting - just more pricy than at home. Which comes to my real concern - the government seems silent on getting charging infrastructure for those lacking off street parking. There are companies proposing solutions. BTW charging at home is more than adequate for the vast majority of people. Even with only 7kW charger used for 7 hours overnight with add 49kWh into your battery. At 3miles per kWh, this is 147 miles. Not many people do that daily. In your list of BEV / PhEV / Mild Hybrid your missed the Range Extended EV - i.e one with a substantial battery capable of doing say 100+ range on battery and a small ICE engine used to top up the battery. Eliminate the complexity of a gear box / clutch and have the ICE engine / generator set running at an optimal speed.
my guess is the target stays for another 3 years then the gov are forced to put it back a few years, Rinse and repeat until only Tesla and Chinese EV manufacturers are left
Simply refuse to buy EVs. People power. I've never purchased a new car & have no intention to do so. There's a massive pool of good used vehicles to choose from.
@@ghunt9146 that’s what our leaders want, and you’ll then have no form of transport when they significantly increase vehicle excise and fuel duty, you’ll be priced off of the road.
Richard, great idea taking on this subject. Agree EVs do reduce harmful pollutants, but the electricity needs to be green too. There needs to be a scheme of getting the people into these secondhand EVs that have dropped in price. E.G. lower pricing for fast chargers. Scheme to support the battery replacement in older cars, maybe the govement say 10 year min warranties. Local councils need to think about cheaper charging for flat owners and space. As mentioned before, a standard wallbox is 11kw output here, which is a jump from 7kw, but 3 phase is needed. Agree EV, trucks, vans and buses doesn't make sense, but maybe hydrogen could play a part for the buses. Germany has 86 hydrogen filling stations. The goverment invested 500m euros into development projects. Toyota ran a fleet of hydrogen cars here in Hannover. For trucks, on some sections of the Autobahn A1 and A5, there are overhead electric cables for charging trucks on the move (never seen one in action). German government also give you a refund for having an EV, its about 100 euros a year, you just need to enter the vin number on the net with your address. Here in Germany, we use litres per 100km, this makes sense. Regarding tyres, maybe cars need to have torque limits at lower speeds, so the tyres aren't ripped up. Maybe all season tyres would reduce the need for winters & summers (small % in UK I know). More should be done to promote solar panels in the UK for homes and at lower costs.
Some well informed and interesting points Richard, but I’m unsure where the used market will go, I can only imagine the VED and fuel duty will be ratcheted up between now and 2030 for petrol and diesel cars, making them less appealing.
This mandate is a vanity project being rushed through without proper strategy and thought as to the consequences. Manufacturers need time to develop and evolve the technologies required to get anywhere close to targets over the next 50 years, not the next 5 years! Suggest to aim for lightweight efficient vehicle technologies and stop filling the roads with unnecessarily huge SUV's
EVs last, typically, 7/8 years when the warranty runs out(or 100,000 miles), after that they're basically worth scrap value, ie you don't spend more on a car than it's worth. ICE cars typically last for 15 years when they reach the same tipping point. So we're buying more expensive vehicles which last half as long, and this is claimed to be the green alternative. Clown World.
@@philiplindley7384 you’re talking about depreciation not actual reliability. The value is lower because people don’t fully trust battery powered cars yet, when in actual fact they are far far more reliable than your average ICE car out of warranty. A 10 year Tesla, out of warranty is still £10-20k, so hardly scrap value! I drive both. I wouldnt hesitate in buying a 100k mile Tesla, but I’d be getting a detailed inspection on most 100k ICE cars with the knowledge it’s going to need money spending on it. There are loads of Tesla’s outside of warranty on the roads with perfectly good batteries, plus there are fixable out of warranty, with cells replaceable by specialists rather than having to replace a whole battery
@@sagalout I'm willing to bet you don't have an old EV so your comment is worthless(like 7/8 year old EVs). Also there is some evidence out there that the act of replacing individual cells actually causes more cells to fail. Nobody keeps mobile phones once their old (well, I do but I'm tight with money) so why would they keep old EVs?
We do have E5 and E10 fuel, we've had it a few years now in the UK. Regular unleaded is usually E10 and Super unleaded/premium, whatever you want to call it, is currently E5, 10% and 5% ethanol.
I must first say I think Net Zero is a construct, but as far as The EV mandate, if Evs were so great then they would not need subsidies, and we should have choice that way if EVs were what everyone wanted then they wouldn't need to mandate it, I would be happy with a pure Hybrid but an ev wouldn't suit me or my life style 🙂
Plant Food implicated in good weather? If the populace and motor manufacturers go along with idiocy it's merely a confirmation and encouragement for further dictats for idiocy and subservience.
I agree wholeheartedly. I’ve just posted that, by being reasonable, we’re accepting idiocy. We just stop doing this. I’m a biologist. I know we’re being lied to 24/7 about the plandemic.
The biggest problem for me in what you are suggesting is that to enable these policies you need to have a "smart meter" and a "smart charger" Having these means that you lose control of your supply as was seen in Australia where the power company switched off all the air conditioners in sweltering heat of the people who had smart meters because the grid couldn't cope. I will not have a smart meter or smart chager which means I will not have an EV or plug-in hybrid. The Net Zero programme being pushed by Miliband the Mad will destroy this country.
I see an electric refuse vehicle on the M5 being towed south, on the side of the vehicle was emblazoned the future is electric? It was on the back of a. Diesel artic unit 😂😂 They don't even have the Range to get to a customer!!
This is supposed to be all about reducing Co2 .....right ??? ...saving the planet.....Think about this. I was thinking about buying a small Suzuki car about 2018. I noted its co2 output was 89gms. Then they decided to "go green " and change all their cars to "mild hybrids ". This involved putting a " Hybrid " badge on the back although it would not drive on electric only and they installed a battery under the passenger's seat. So now, I assume, because it is heavier, the Co2 output for the very same car is 114 gms ????????? 😏
I own a wheel/tyre business and the industry trend and advice from the largest wholesaler in the UK (who happens to be owned by Continental) is that EVs get through 3x the tyres of standard cars. Not really a surprise with all the extra weight of batteries and the instant torque pushing onto the tarmac...
Mandate or not, nobody is forcing anyone to get an electric car. Even after 2030 you can still buy a used ICE car. If they are as reliable as you guys say, this won’t even be an issue for several decades
Think of your favourite food, (let’s say steak) if the government suddenly banned it and brought in a policy that the substitute for steak was tripe, you could just not buy tripe, but you’d miss steak and be pretty peeved your freedom of choice had been taken away. If EVs actually were a better alternative to ICE vehicles, there would be no debate, no resistance. Your basing your views on EVs on your own experience, needs , preferences and circumstances, that’s a pretty selfish way to formulate an opinion.
@ the government haven’t banned anything. As I said, after 2030 nothing is stopping you from buying a used ICE car. The steak analogy doesn’t work here at all
Some kind of flow battery might be viable... Two tanks, one for fresh and the other for spent electrolyte. A pump flows the electrolyte through a catalyst to rob the electrons. Recharge can be as quick as filling the Dino tank. Check. Vanadium flow battery as an example. 😊
Why complicate a car with a battery to charge, replace, is just as flammable. I want a nice economical petrol engine car, I don't want gadgets, a stereo and electric windows will do, then I might be able to afford the bloody thing!
I think manufacturers will do in 2028 and 2029 what they are doing now to push up the registration of electric cars.That is PRE-REGISTRATION which is why there are so many cars with mileages of below 100 miles which are for sale well below any new prices as laid down by the manufacturers.Come 2028/29 they could pre-register 1000s of petrol/diesel vehicles which could be legally sold on well into the 2030s.That will give the government something to think about.
You might be surprised to hear this from someone that has owned a ZE Renault Twizy for many years. My vehicle and maybe the Citroen Ami are perfect for the majority of sub 4 mile, daily journeys that I undertake. I can charge and garage it at home and we have a petrol car for longer journeys. I believe that apart from those two quads our currently available EVs are NOT the answer and should not be forced upon anyone. The technology is flawed and not properly developed, EVs are too big, too heavy for our roads, expensive and inefficient. I think your short term solution is correct except I am sure that the future for vans, lorries, buses, earthmovers, dumpers, mobile cranes and other heavy plant is hydrogen power NEVER electric. We should be grateful as a nation to Lord Bamford of JCB. The research and development that he has financed and undertaken without any government help, into Hydrogen gas production, storage, transport and the modification of diesel engines to run reliably on this gas, should be applauded. If our useless deaf, government does not wake up, we will have no motor industry left in the UK. Thousands of people in dealership networks and the supply chain will be out of work. European vehicle manufacturers will go to the wall and the whole of Europe will be flooded with poorly made disposable Chinese vehicles that will help destroy the planet even faster.
I thought the initial idea was to be green, great for the environment, long lasting, low waste, but they are all completely different. So to keep costs down, help recycling, help parts availability, be GREEN why don't they... share standard components, controllers, cpu, displays, motors, battery's etc etc I know body's are a different shape but batteries could be built from a smaller standard brickette sized battery which is easily replaceable when parts get superseded keep same mounting so the could retro fit old vehicles they had a fresh start with EVs to do the right thing and look what happens! (we all know why tho, they'd rather sell you a new car!)
Great video. 100% agree with the points made which are well thought out and logical. I was also very interested to hear your thoughts on Mild hybrid cars as I have just bought 2 in the last month. A Petrol hot hatch and MHD mid size diesel SUV. So far I am very impressed with the balance of ICE and electrical assistance. Such a shame that these very capable and low CO2 emoting vehicles will be mandated out of production in the next 5 years. It will be interesting to see how there re sale values hold up as we march towards a full EV new car world.
Britain doesn’t have a CO2 problem, Britain has a problem that the state is sold out and run by WEF globalists. Electric cars do have their place, but we shouldn’t be bullied in to getting one. They shouldn’t be subsidised and tax reliefs should be the same for EV and ICE vehicles. We only have limited time to spend on this planet and I much rather prefer spending it with my family, rather than sitting at a charger in motorway services for hours. Small electric city cars for people who do 100-150 miles max per day are perfect. We definitely don’t need silly stupid massive things like Cybertrucks for example.
Hi Richard, I really enjoyed your vlog this evening. Everything you say has a lot of logic about it😊 so that's a plus. But there's no need to worry, this lot of idiots won't be in power in 5 years time and it will all change and the new government will scrap all this zero emissions nonsense. Happy New Year to you🎉 cheers 🍺 🍻🥂🥳🍷
Speaking to someone who has recently retired from the national grid I was asking him about charging cars and the grid and he said, EVs, data centres and normal growth in power consumption means by 2030 we need a minimum of 50% increase of power generation to keep the grid in balance. You have about a 2% difference between power generation and power usage if it goes much further than that it's out of balance and can collapse. But what you need to know is an over power can be difficult to deal with quickly, but an under power can be dealt with quickly by power cuts to some areas. So if you believe that wind and solar are not going to be consistent and you understand that battery storage is stupid and costly you are probably right, so it's power cuts then.
@Piecenotwar to power the USA for one day would take all the batteries made at the Tesla mega factory for the next 500 years. I quote USA because we don't make batteries. Also colbalt, lithium copper and nickel all make in the mining produce water pollution air pollution scar the landscape and shortens life expectancy and destroys local communitys. Then it's moved to a process plant via diesel power and more water pollution is made. Then it's transported to battery plants using diesel power and then plastic from the petrochemical industry is added to the jellyroll and other plastic components are used including insulated wire. Then the batteries are shipped from China using diesel power around the world and we buy them as clean energy storage. We also buy solar panels from China and as for windmills well apart from the 150 tonnes of concrete foundations and the 100 tonnes of steel in the tower and the 32 tonnes of hi carbon steel gears at the top of the tower and the gearbox filled with 180 LTRs of gear oil thanks petrochemical industry. Other than all of that it's clean energy!!!! Don't make me laugh you have been had by lies and I feel sorry for you
Richard the problem is that you are working on reason and logic, but you are up against Politicians and especially Civil Servants who come from the planet Zog
Let's always remember The WEF GLOBALIST Goal They Don't Want You To Have Your Own Vehicles... Travel Zones within The Designated 15min ( Districts )-Important Word
Absolutely I love that comment😂😂😂😂
Run by a death cult more like.
Government want less people driving - what better way than to mandate a technology that does not work for everybody is too expensive for many and has limited range. Job done
Exactly what I’ve been thinking
And it doesn’t matter what car you drive it’ll end up wrecked by the state of the roads anyway
You've figured it out Peter, the simplicity of it all baffles people.
I can't fill up the tank at home. But if I had a solar farm, I could fill a car without paying the oil corporations or the government. Isn't EV actually the independent option Vs petrol?
@@marcus.H 😂 try and maintain a pv system for a few years and come back with your "lived experience". It ain't like it says on the tin
@@barry5138 what is there to maintain? Wash them every 3-6 months. Enjoy free energy. Either way a solar farm brings independence from the system. Oil corporations want you to be a customer for life. Independence comes from free solar energy
I will, probably, be charging up on that big charger in the sky by 2030. No EV for me, not because I hate them but because I refuse to be bullied by an idiot Government.
The EV green mode should be challenged in the Courts as misleading and untrue. The production and disposal in not environmentally friendly.
Even if you had the money to make the attempt, you’d find no barrister would take the government on & no judge would rule against the government. All corrupt together.
Off you go then, let us know how you get on.
😂😂😂 Luddite.
Understand the WEF 2030 plan and you will see the direction
It’s going to destroy industry as well as personal liberties
There is no reasoning with psychopaths called politicians.
They are just puppets and just roll out the policies given to them by NGO'S and the Civil service.
The country will ground to a halt if the policy is pursued with it's current timeline.There will be thousands ,if not millions of job loses in the motor trade. and other sectors.The most vulnerable in society,will be left behind,on cost,including the inability to charge ,due to probably residing in property's such as flats and multiple occupancy accomodation. Service workers on minimum wage such as carers who rely on cars , in the rural areas ,from what I have seen driving cars more than 12-15 years of age will not be able to afford EVs . Young drivers will be priced out completely.Those who have money need not worry. Second hand petrol and diesel cars will likely see huge incease in prices rises as 2030 approaches.Why should the UK ,that produces a minimal amount of pollution, destroy it's economy and inflict this on the population,when the worst polluting countries,such as China,Russia and India and USA continue do nothing .This is a ill conceived vanity project invented by those who understand nothing .😢
This is exactly on point, i agree 100%
Thank you. I think it is just common sense,something the political (elite) , as they like to think they are , cannot grasp ,as they are so detached from reality,they are in a fantasy world. The everyday normal person pays the price, I do hope they will see sense ,before it is too late.
This is how green EVs are, 500,000 lbs of rock are mined with oil or coal to make every so say green battery, they need to take the blinkers off and look it up. Mark P Mills at Hillsdale College.
They understand perfectly! This is part of an agenda, a wide-ranging attack on personal freedoms.
Surely it's only a matter of time before everyone realises this
Look up Starmer's Trilateral Commission and intelligence ties
No mandate at all.
Let the customers decide.
EV’s only work as a second car if you can afford it.
I agree with half of this. As an EV owner I believe it should be left to the market and not mandated. Disagree with the second car thing. My EV is pretty much an only car - I do have a second car but that’s a hobby V8. The EV is what I use for daily use / holidays etc. if I had to go to the other end of the country tomorrow I’d 100% take the EV (as I often have!)
They will take your choice away and once the Cashless tyranny takes over you'll be blocked from buying petrol or diesel.
I can’t afford it so I’ll stick with my cheap to run EV.
EV are not zero emissions.
I’ve been called a nut job and conspiracy theorist over my views on this.
Lets not sugar coat this, the future of motoring as we know and enjoy ,is hanging in the balance, all because manufacturers have a gun to their heads to bring to market and sell EVs which are not evolved enough to be ready for market. One by one, the legacy manufacturers will go bankrupt, the only choice would will be Chinese built EVs. Remember communist countries where the only choice was a trabant or a lada ?
This is complete madness, hundreds of thousands of job losses , and all for what? to shift carbon emissions from our country to China , that isn’t saving the planet.
EVs should be boycotted by buyers and motoring journalists, and any motoring journalist who is EV biased is basically hammering nails into their own coffin.
Why Clarkson Hammond and May knocked the grand tour in the head.
Utter rubbish. Why are you still not using a horse and cart?
@@Yorkshire-z5v just because you say it’s utter rubbish doesn’t mean it is now does it, it could be that you are wrong.
India’s economic forecast for 2025 states that they expect oil consumption to increase by 330,000 barrels per day, increase on current useage. What the hell difference will some EVs in the Uk make? None.
Precisely.Less than a drop in the ocean.
What’s the environment got to do with it? Do you want to keep paying through the nose for motoring? Fuel, those rip off regular services the car needs and maintenance of all those moving parts. No thanks I’ll drive around for pennies. You stick to your money pits.
@@Yorkshire-z5v obviously you haven’t factored in depreciation in your motoring costs.
Spot on, I was gonna make the same point until I read your message. Come 2030 I want to again purchase another performance petrol car, nothing else. If I can’t, I’ll buy a second hand one before the deadline and run it for as long as possible. Hopefully these clowns will be thrown out of power by then anyway and the whole policy is scrapped….
No EV for me. I’ll die on that hill…
Same here.
I bet you said the same when the seat belt law came in? How did that go for you?
@ that’s a safety thing nothing more. I still drive manual cars as they should be driven
@@Yorkshire-z5vI bet you had all the boosters…
If the UK went all electric then the caravan and motorhome industry and associated tourism will be finished. I drive a non-plug in mild hybrid diesel XC90 towing a 1900k caravan giving me a near 300 mile range towing plus another 100 miles when solo on arrival before the fuel light come on. The new Volvo line up does not included diesel in any form only a petrol non plug in mild hybrid so the towing mpg and and all important torque will be much less.
On our routes we take I've not seen one drive through EV charger suitable for towing outfits or motorhomes and if there was imagine the queues.
Some touring sites have maybe 2 or 3 charging points and don't allow charging at the pitch due to aging infrastructure so this would need addressing.
The motorhome and caravan industry is nearly dead…sky high prices and now cars that can’t tow more than 150 miles. See Harry’s Garage about his recent EV towing experience
I own an ICE diesel - dont have an issue with EVs as far as the tech is concerned. But I am of the opinion that an EV should take us forwards not backwards in terms of personal mobility. I see the following issues as big roadblock for me 1) limited real range 2) recharging time 3) limited infrastructure 4) expensive public charging 5) expensive to buy and finally 7) lack of garages that service EVs.
I have driven diesel’s since 1993 and have driven trucks since 1970. Diesel is king.
1) 200 miles is enough for 99% of trips. 2) Most EVs charge overnight so no issue. Away from home people stop for 20 to 30 minute breaks anyway every few hours so charge takes no extra time. 3) Currently 785 hubs of 6 or more Rapid chargers and there are another 591 in planning and power supply. Its only a perceived problem by people who don't drive an EV. 4) It is expensive to charge in public. It is actually just as expensive as petrol per mile. Outrageous isn't it. But what's your point there? 5) Yes. Thats true. But it won't be long before parity. 7) Every dealer where you buy EVs will be happy to service their cars.
@Hitstirrer there's 33million cars in the UK that's without lorries, plant etc & you think 700 charging points is going to be OK!!
Wtf
40% of UK houses haven't got drives/garages to home charge!
What about builders like myself i drive between 120 & 200 miles a day & carry a tonne of tools/materials in my van and ev will never be suitable for people like myself
Government shouldn't be forcing this ridiculous mandate
@@pauldavies7251 It's 785 x 6 = 4710. Plus another 591 in planning x 6 = 3546. Plus many thousands of sites with up to 6 chargers. As well as dozens of Tesla supercharge sites with dozens of Rapids that are now open to all EVs. That is enough for today's fleet. And they will increase as the fleet increases just as they have done over the last five years. People without drives can use those. They are expensive though. But guess what, they would then be paying exactly the same price per mile as they do at present to fill a petrol car. Your van use is a small % of the entire fleet and if you drive that far it must be 6 hours of your day sitting driving. However, I absolutely agree with you that inept politicians have got this mandate totally wrong. People will always react to a forced agenda. And that starts people writing anti-EV comments which are factually incorrect as they try to resist change. EVs are perfectly able to stand on their own feet and if left alone and people were not being pushed they would try them out and find them to be 'better' all round. All of the negatives posted about EVs are out of date. Perhaps five years ago the points were valid. But not now. People should take time to update their knowledge base and stop just repeating what they are told to believe by TH-camrs with an agenda for clickbait.
@@HitstirrerEVs are good for some journeys not 99%. So everyone needs two cars then, for those other journeys,or perhaps just one car that will do 100 % of journeys like errr an Ice car perhaps.
I think that we call EVs zero emission vehicles is the biggest con of all. They're not zero emission and infact they have a huge Co2 foot print. To offset this, an EV takes 8 years to catch up with the combustion engine vehicles. EVs may have a place but don't be fooled by the hype that you're doing good by buying them. E fuels are the best option in my opinion. We already have the infrastructure for it, prices would stabilize so could be affordable very quickly, all current combustion vehicles can run on it and its zero emissions. Just to also add, its far better for the environment to keep and old car running on E fuels than producing these horrid EVs. If these policy makers had any concern for the environment, this would be the way forward but this is not the case. Taxing us out of our current combustion vehicles and into EVs only serves to fill their pockets. Sorry if I sound negative regarding EVs but anyone with any common sense can see that this is not the way forward.
The mandatory lane assist must be reversed.
I always believed we live in a democracy and not a dictatorship I will not be told what I can and cannot drive it’s my choice we all have a freedom of choice
You Hit The Nail On The Head.... 'FREEDOM OF CHOICE' ,
We Are All About To Have It Removed !
I remember a similar 'Freedom of Choice' argument about smoking in public spaces. Where is the freedom of choice in my not breathing in your NOx and particulates from ICE?
@@DrDave_63395 ⬅️🤡🐑
2 problems with plug in hybrids that you didn’t mention. 1. When the battery runs out then you are just having to carry around a big heavy battery for no benefit, resulting in worse fuel consumption. 2. No good for towing any great distances. When the battery runs out you are left with an underpowered engine for the task.
Thanks Brian, I think they need a responsibility on the battery and disposal - Mild Hybrids can tow and would only improve over time.
I think you will find that this is not the case with Toyota C-HR PHEV that do 50+ gallon. Sorry just cant get used to km liter. Perhaps it is because all our signs are in miles
@@mikejoseph425I have a friend that had a diesel Audi SUV company car that averaged 35mpg, he was forced to replace it with a plug in hybrid version for tax purposes and he now only gets 25mpg average.
You make a good point but it’s not entirely true. The battery is never dead because of the regeneration braking and also I tow a caravan all round the UK with a plug in hybrid absolutely fine. Albiet my caravan is a small one so I would struggle to upgrade to a bigger one with my car which is the Audi A3 TFSIe. The petrol engine is a 1.4. It does however deliver fantastic fuel economy its has to be said. Between 55mpg when no charge and up to and beyond 110mpg as a hybrid. When towing the caravan it’s between 30 and 36MPG depending on the charge in the high voltage battery.
I’m a minority with a caravan along with leisure vehicle. Being forced to pick ev doesn’t work for me I have drive and able to charge but no hybrid or ev made the shortlist and I opted for diesel.
the leisure businesses are slow to uptake on this either in offerings in van or cars with ability to tow with any weight. Never seen any ev on a campsite and most don’t have ability to charge onsite. so I fear for the leisure industry and my ability for freedom going forward. The luxury car tax of over 40k is inhibiting change for most folks too. Don’t mind paying a tax but want ability to see where this goes or even pick. Not just pay for ev subsidies
Thanks Colin, Evs not fit for purpose in quite a few areas
Snap! I’m in exactly the same position, and have recently bought a 2020 BMW diesel mild hybrid. I don’t expect to buy another new car for the rest of my life because I don’t think anything suitable will be available.
Richard there are a lot of us that enjoy caravanning. The car manufacturers are not catering really for them. A PHEV is to complicated you kind of need the battery systems to be switched off for towing. Non of the PHEVs I’ve looked at are manual and even using an auto box for towing can cause overheating issues. EVs and PHEvs have been designed to move people with the lowest emissions and not as practical vehicles for recreation. Your 60g of CO2 is bang on because if you take in to account the carbon output of the grid 182g of CO2per kWh (see below) of CO2 the EV charging losses and EV efficiency you get a similar figure for remote EV emissions.
A quick summary of the governments transmission factor report
The latest UK Government Emissions factors were published on 8th July 2024. These figures can be used for accurately reporting the carbon impact of business energy use.
We have provided a summary of the main points in relation to grid electricity and natural gas emission factors.
Note that the electricity grid factors are based on 2022 grid mix data. This lag is standard and the 2024 factors should be used for calendar year 2024 emissions reporting.
The transmission and generation (T&D) emissions factor for grid electricity has increased from 2023 figure of 0.01792 kg CO2e per kWh to 0.01830 kg CO2e per kWh.
The generation emissions factor for grid electricity has not changed significantly from the 2023 figure, 0.20707 kg CO2e per kWh, to 0.20705 kg CO2e per kWh.
This means that the combined factor that most companies use is marginally higher than the 2023 figure of 0.22499 kg CO2e per kWh at 0.22535 kg CO2e per kWh.
The natural gas emissions factor for 2024 has decreased slightly from the 2023 figure of 0.18293 kg CO2e per kWh to 0.18290 kg CO2e per kWh.
I think Mild Hybrid can work for Caravans and EV will never work it seems.
They need to really think this through
@ a lot of the PHEVs have lower MLTP recommendations. They are complex pieces of kit and auto boxes and integrated hybrid motors. I’m not sure and it’s not something that has a lot of data.
Write to your MP (who will be due for re-election before 2030) and tell them you are opposed to this legislation. Ask them where the copper for the cabling and lithium for the batteries is coming from and who will pay for chargers (two needed for some households even if they park in the street) and infrastructure (lots of road digging up) for a nationwide switch to electric cars. I wrote to my MP yesterday.
There are lithium batteries in everything where do you think they come from?
@@Yorkshire-z5v China but is there enough Lithium for everyone to have an electric car with a lithium battery? No, I didn't think so which is another reason an electric future is foolish.
You need to separate the arguments for air pollution and CO2. Check out the geologist Ian Pilner and how he explains global warming and cooling over thousands of years; he is not a lone voice. We currently are seeing so much of the infrastructure for net zero manufactured in China which has the worse environmental standards, that anything that happens here will be dwarfed by comparison. If you take a broader view than just the car industry then our current course will have a devastating effect on the wealth of this country; that will affect the poorest in society hardest.
Richard;
What about cars that need to tow?
We love our caravan. A diesel vehicle is the ONLY solution.
Are we at the point where caravaning is lost to us?
Regards.
Thank you, The current Volvo mild Hybrid can tow 3500lbs so this would work I think for most and could improve towards 2030
@@Challengetheroad Assuming you can afford one and actually want one that is.
@@Challengetheroad Ok great, but for how many miles on one charge?
The final killer is the ratcheting up of Benefit in Kind tax which is going up every year, to 9% in 2029. That will mean over £4k of yearly BiK tax for a high-rate tax payer on a £100k EV. That will have a big impact on EV sales.
Thanks Andrew, yes that will have a massive impact
Also insurance companies are getting wise to the faults regarding recalls on battery fire issues or crash repair issues with these cars.
Some great points. One area no one seems to mention is emergency vehicles, totally impractical for battery power. The recent hurrucane in the US = power grid down, people in EV's couldn't escape the area and you can't drive an EV through floodwater!
First time watcher here Richard, alot of great points in the video.
I agree with setting limitations on hybrids, mild and total ice vehicles ect as it is logical way forward. The zero emission target of 2030 is a pipedream from the government.
A EV doesn't work for me because of my job traveling around the country testing ventilation and heating systems. So the range and ability to charge would be a hassle in order to make it work.
Currently driving around in a 15 year old petrol car because of my budget and that it complies with ulez as I can't claim that charge back.
I advised a non car lover work colleague of mine a couple of years ago to go for a hybrid. He went for a Toyota self charging hybrid and it suited his needs perfectly as he doesn't have a wall charger.
The government will be different by them , REFORM will be in power and sanity will prevail
Hi what about the caravan market that will be dead as well, have you tried charging with a caravan!!!!! , and campervan/ motorhome they don't want you travelling 😡
If a petrol station serves 1000 customers in a day at 5 mins a pop, how long will it take 1000 people wanting to charge for 30/45/90 mins ? Whole cities will turn into carparks full of folk waiting to charge and need a power station to serve them.
Nearly all charge at home overnight. And use power that is 'spare' overnight as industry shuts down then. Some then also stop once if on a long trip but only a few do that. They stop at one of around 800 large charge hubs of 6 to 12 Rapid chargers and rarely queue. And there are another 600 hubs of at least 6 Rapid chargers awaiting planning permission to cover next years growth. You are imagining things that won't happen.
@@Hitstirrer Rapid chargers need the grid to be capable of supplying the power as and when needed, this is NOT viable and will not work because our infrastructure is miles behind today's needs and at present is only capable of producing 3% more than required on a normal day, also rapid charging is known to shorten the lifespan of the battery.
@@JackOfski Try asking the people who run the grid rather than repeating what you have been told to repeat. They are not concerned and at present, they welcome an increase in EV use to mop up excess overnight power that causes them to shut down some plants overnight. There are plans to store that same excess overnight power as well so that it can boost any increase in day use without building more generation. Do you really think that the grid management is sitting there 'wringing its hands' in misery? Or is it at all possible that they have seen the changing needs and are planning accordingly? As to Rapid charging issues. That can indeed be a concern for older EVs using older type batteries. But in reality, there are still hundreds of EV taxis that ONLY rapid charge and have racked up 200,000 miles. That view is also being overturned by the latest battery chemistry as they can tolerate rapid and high charge rates much better these days. In fact, a lot of adverse comments we see these days is based on old information from the early days of EV use. People really should update their knowledge base rather than regurgitate outdated fears that no longer apply.
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I work for the grid and it won’t take it. Places like Cheltenham have 8-10 big houses running of 25mm single phase cable.
7km of 33kv and hv cable was required for Aust services off the M4 towards Wales for the charging points
A balanced view combining common sense with progress. If reports are accurate the EU and UK are selling their industry and workforce down the river. Cheap Chinese EV's will flood the market further putting a nail in the coffin of european manufacturers. Government do not listen, however, the buying public can make a difference by not buying into an impractical policy! I have purchased 10 litres of fuel for my classic motorcycle that will do a maximum of 100 miles in a year, this can be purchased from garden centres now! Finally, how has wind and solar generation faired during the Christmas period? Where I live, we have had next to zero sunshine combined with very low wind levels!
Talk more on the benefits in the reduction of CO2. Less plants / more plants / better air etc? We are already really low on CO2 (plant food) as I see.
Doesnt seem to be getting through that the C02, Carbon, Greenhouse Gases is the driving force for the madness which needs to end
Harry has 200lt barrels of E fuel from Coryton in his garage. Hand pump on the top, perfect for your classic and it's always nice to be independent and have bulk fuel at home. Easier with diesel obvs.
Nice video, balanced view on the situation as always.
Thank you, I may do the same soon!
About the stupidest thing you can do is store 200ltr barrels of fuel in your garage.
It’s a ridiculous fire hazard in itself let alone a ridiculous hazard if there’s a fire near it.
@@Piecenotwar Calm down Karon.
@@CreepyTrendMan Yes I’m a Karen, a Karen with a fully functional brain unlike you it would seem if you think storing barrels of highly flammable liquid in your garage isn’t just plain dumb!.
Go ask the local firefighters how they feel about it, especially when they have to come and put the fire out and retrieve someone’s charred corpse
@@CreepyTrendMan Go and ask the local fire brigade how they feel about someone storing 200ltrs of highly flammable liquid fuel in a garage.
I suspect you wouldn’t because you know how completely stupid it is.
The fire fighters won’t be to pleased when they have to deal with the carnage of it all going wrong and trying to drag a bbqd corpse out of an engulfed garage.
Mr Farage will sort it all it 😉
Haha dream on 😅 he does talk a good talk but never delivered on anything he's ever said .. cool cheerleader though
@@BobCarolgees-p8f Nigel didn't even help get us out of the EU.... Oh wait... Yes he DID!
He’ll be in Musks pocket like Trump, so Tesla’s all round!
We dont get to vote again for almost half a decade. By that point, far too much irreversible damage will have been done
I have a blue badge & notice how many EVs are now in the disabled bays. The Mobilty scheme is pushing them onto the disabled often giving them no ICE choice. Often these EVs are not suitable for many disabled people for numerous reasons
Did you know, Motability customers currently get 10000 miles free of charge
There isn’t an EV option for towing our 2 ton caravan. Towing with an EV is not really an option even for a small caravan with the challenge of charging, but for a heavy caravan there simply isn’t one. And the range is so limited when towing too.
That’s why we cannot go EV only no way!
@ I will buy a used vehicle next year for the first time in about 20 years as a result.
In what world does it make sense to grow a crop to be turned into Ethanol to be burned in a car? Any crop grown on arable land should be for food production in an increasingly unstable world. Plus more ethanol in fuel means more water absorption therefore more corrosion and wear in the fuel system, also it can lead to algae build up in fuel tanks etc.
EV mandate's = Depression.
I used to be the person who said I'd be the last person driving around trying to find a garage for petrol (remember doing this for 2* petrol lol) but with advances in electric cars I'm more open to the idea. However, I don't feel the tech is quite there yet especially the infrastructure to supply the increased demand of electric.
How much diesel machinery is used to mine for the batterys
Do amazon use EVs to deliver the parcels?
I don’t think the manufacturers will go bust, but there is a strong possibility that they will deem the UK market too restrictive, and just stop selling new cars here. They have little incentives to create UK specific models anymore, and may just decide to concentrate on the the left hand drive markets where they come from (talking abt mainly Europe here)! Another nail in the UK ecomony thanks to the dimwits currently in charge!
While China continues to burn huge amounts of coal and many countries still rely on oil and gas, the transition to EVs - from a climate point of view - will make virtually no difference.
The government cannot force consumers to buy EVs.
Since EVs are not the solution for all consumers, the ZEV mandate is doomed to fail. The ZEV mandate is crazy and the financial burden on car and van manufacturers as they transition to EVs will cause untold damage (job losses, etc.).
EVs are best suited for people who can charge their vehicles at home and only use them for short journeys.
There are many issues limiting the adoption of EVs: high purchase price; limited and expensive public charging; range anxiety.
Mass adoption of EVs will require additional generation of electricity and improvements to the transmission grid infrastructure. The consumer will ultimately pay for these capital projects in higher taxes.
With no govt commitment to increase the infrastructure for charging its dead in the water until something changes .
We have four cars, mine my wife’s and we have two sons who live at home. We don’t have a big enough electric supply to have four chargers. We only have a big enough supply for one charger.
We also have a business and we have diggers, dumpers, tractors, telehandlers, ride on mowers and things like that. I can’t see how our business could operate if they were all electric.
VOTE REFORM TO STOP THIS MADNESS
Hahahah, yeah, Musk will save your ICE cars 😂
@@brandonfromlondonuk3484 More like Trump. Reform aren't going to do anything. A lot of hot air.
I’m astonished that the general public hasn’t realised that all western (democratic) governments are in lockstep with a supranational environmental mandate that ignores the FREE Market Economy. This is an unprecedented situation that is tantamount to tyranny more than a free democracy.
EV is a partial personal transport solution only.
FYI I have owned a small EV commuter for 5 years and charge at home via photovoltaic generation. But I also own a large ICE 4WD for towing, bad weather events (particularly flooding) and general purpose utility work. I can’t imagine life without the ICE 4WD, especially when it floods near my home.
Barrie Crampton tells you the used car sales facts, lease one if you have to, can charge on your drive, or it suits your needs. They don't suit my needs so I want a petrol car with minimal electronics. Mechanics would enjoy their job again.
I bought a two-year old Ford Transit, smiley front 2.5 Di LWB in 1997, it lasted eight years, snapped two timing belts on the go and still did 365,000 miles, that engine still passed the emissions when the gearbox went and it was looking a bit untidy.
Electric vans will never come anywhere close to that sustainability so stick your ev, net zero nonsense where the sun shines. I did a 150 miles plus three days a week in that van, an EV would have destroyed me, I couldn't contemplate the charging complications involved in that run. I would have to send a van to Gatwick CHARGE! Bluewater CHARGE, three stops in London possibly get to Colnbrook CHARGE, Driver goes home when he get's to Heathrow. Driver goes home? What about Reading, Luton, Milton Keynes, back to Heathrow, drive around for six drops and home?
Perhaps on the van front increase the current 3.5T limit to 4T to account for the battery and payload?
I think PooTube seems to have lost my original comment, but a significant concern of mine is around the infrastructure requirements to deal with all the additional weight and transportation issues and the handling of fires/chemistries reactions in different scenarios and the impacts on health and well being. Li based chemistries fires are highly carcinogenic even just to the skin and its smoke. What is in place to deal with this, what will F&RS need to have to manage these situations, management of old/damaged assets and the post processing of them?
Huge amount of hidden costs that seemingly are overlooked notwithstanding the fact the generation and transmission is still a huge headache and won’t be able to viably meet the need/expectation.
Superchargers are the gold standard, rarely are they out of service or damaged/poor condition and service is reliable - this cannot be said for any of the competition/alternates.
Surely for people to embrace BEVs, accessibility and reliability of the recharging service needs to be as ubiquitous, reliability, available and cheap.
As usual when dealing with Goverments nothing is thought out, it's all for political gain and making(taking) money from the taxpayer😂
The biggest problem is we have technocrats that are living in an ideology world! They need to allow the market to decide, let the scientists and developers to produce efficient vehicles. One big point to look at would be co2 per mile, and do it properly and I bet the fossil fuels will be proven to be more efficient
We’re already struggling against the likes of china in general, this will be even more so going forward, especially the traditional car manufacturers. Why impose a nonsensically policy to strangle ourselves even more. The whole thing is ill informed. We should be using a combination of ALL; ICE, PHEV, MHEV, EV and Hydrogen, the all have their advantages and disadvantages depending on the application, deciding on the method (EV) and mandating it across the board it just plain crazy. Let the engineers sort out which technology we use, not the politicians. I am actually an EV fan, but, in the right application, i.e personal or inner city transportation, it’s simply not going to work for commercial vehicles, haulage or construction and for that reason, so why try and force it and strangle ourselves. All done under the false pretense of ‘cutting emissions’. It’s a global problem and should be tackled on a global basis, we should be focusing on the areas which will have the biggest impact, even if they’re not in our continent.
The next step is to increase duty on fuel to such a point it will price people off the road. It’s coming for sure, it’s an extremely easy way to enforce the reduction of ICE cars being used if you decide to keep yours and defy their rules.
Richard for president, viva the presidente. Thanks for the voice of reason, thanks for all the great content in 2024, keep well, all the best for 2025.
Thank you - Have a great New Year and lots planned for 2025! Richard
I’d go 150 none PHEV and 75 PHEV, feels like the youth are being pushed away from personal mobility unless mum and dad have spare cash 😞
I think it may be worth distinguishing better between mild hybrid, full hybrid and plugin hybrid. The Clio you mention is actually a full hybrid, in that the electric motor and battery are able to power the vehicle in EV mode directly for a short period up to about 30mph. A mild hybrid typically is just assisting a petrol engine, very small battery, and low voltage.
I think your mandate could state that hybrids should have the ability to drive the vehicle electrically (full hybrid) with a low CO2 emission, and mild hybrid vehicles may be a concession to be outlawed.
Just a thought.
Thanks Karl, it’s just Renault call it Mild Hybrid in the docs for the car
@ I do t think they do a mild hybrid now, the options on the UK website are TCe 90 petrol or E-Tech Full Hybrid. The only reason I picked this up was I have recently purchased a Renault Arcana Full hybrid and was looking at the Clio for my daughter just yesterday at the dealership…
@ By the way, whatever it’s technically called I agree 100% and think hybrid is the way to go for a lot of people and use cases.
@ I switched to hybrid back in February, a Renault E-Tech Full hybrid and it is perfect for my use case. Really happy with it. I will however be keeping my 10 year old diesel disco 4 until it dies, love that too 👍
JCB are now looking into hydrogen and have got diggers working on some sites, as a truck driver a few years ago lng was ment to be the fuel of the future, but like all good ideas the government would rather use all go electric!!
Firstly those in positions of power should be leading by example. So when the Prime Minister and the Mayor of London switch to full electric then I might just sit up and take note.
How will the millions of people living in flats and terraced houses manage to charge their battery operating cars? The cost to them is not affordable if they have to pay through the nose at public charhers all the time. This issue I believe is greater than range anxiety.
What is being proposed is ill considered legislation and cannot go ahead without causing significant adverse effects. As I understand it it only applies to passenger cars and not bikes or commercials. If it’s just about reducing CO2 then making changes to the construction industry would have a far greater impact effect e.g. low carbon cost concrete.
Construction vehicles still produce vast amounts of CO2 and as they use red diesel they don’t even pay full fuel duty.
Once again the government proposals will hurt the very people that voted them into power in the first place.
I’d be hugely surprised should this policy take effect in 2030. I just don’t see how the national grid is supposed to provide power for the plethora of new EVs that will need to connect to the grid by December 2029.
Another thing. E-fuels are a con. The analogy I use is a gin and tonic. If it’s an E-10 G&T then one is paying for the 10% tonic at the full gin cost. But one needs more to have the same effect. Same with E-fuels, you need more volume to give the same outcome (in this case MPG). I say do the test and see for yourself - I did on all of my petrol cars and my 3 motorcycles and the outcome was that I’m never fulling up with E10 petrol when the E5 is available. Another consideration is where is the ethanol coming from? Answer, a lot of it from Brazil where they are cutting down the rain forest to grow more maze which is distilled into ethanol then shipped half way around the world in diesel powered ships burning the dirtiest high sulfur fuel. I am ex large global oil company and 10 years ago I spent 18 months in Brazil and I witnessed the destruction of the rain forest and recent reports is that things have only become worse. All this so that some supercilious faceless out of touch politician can fly around the world in private jets attending meetings saying how we are going to be leaders in the move to green energy. It’s utter crap!
You are right. When they introduced E10 I smelled a rat. I prefer to use E5 although it is slightly more expensive. I can still get it at the pumps and was assured by motor mechanics that it does no harm and in fact keeps the engine cleaner and performance is noticeably improved.
Richard - a nice balanced video. Our household as two BeV cars and generally my wife and I can decide who will charge their car overnight. I do not believe in PhEVs are a viable solution as they need to be charged each night as the EV only range is close to what most people will do in a day. It has to be a discipline. Your personal case of needing to charge 2+ cars per night shows the challenge but not technically insurmountable with an intelligent multi headed charge point. I've not found the public charging infrastructure wanting - just more pricy than at home. Which comes to my real concern - the government seems silent on getting charging infrastructure for those lacking off street parking. There are companies proposing solutions. BTW charging at home is more than adequate for the vast majority of people. Even with only 7kW charger used for 7 hours overnight with add 49kWh into your battery. At 3miles per kWh, this is 147 miles. Not many people do that daily.
In your list of BEV / PhEV / Mild Hybrid your missed the Range Extended EV - i.e one with a substantial battery capable of doing say 100+ range on battery and a small ICE engine used to top up the battery. Eliminate the complexity of a gear box / clutch and have the ICE engine / generator set running at an optimal speed.
my guess is the target stays for another 3 years then the gov are forced to put it back a few years, Rinse and repeat until only Tesla and Chinese EV manufacturers are left
It can and will go ahead ! as nobody is doing anything to stop it.
Best case scenario, it gets delayed 5 years to give them more time to implement changes.
They could be a convid style event of similar magnitude to accelerate their plan.. war??
Simply refuse to buy EVs. People power. I've never purchased a new car & have no intention to do so. There's a massive pool of good used vehicles to choose from.
@@ghunt9146 that’s what our leaders want, and you’ll then have no form of transport when they significantly increase vehicle excise and fuel duty, you’ll be priced off of the road.
@@ghunt9146 I've had a few but never again, 14 year old diesel now and staying, never any EV for me.
Richard, great idea taking on this subject. Agree EVs do reduce harmful pollutants, but the electricity needs to be green too. There needs to be a scheme of getting the people into these secondhand EVs that have dropped in price. E.G. lower pricing for fast chargers. Scheme to support the battery replacement in older cars, maybe the govement say 10 year min warranties. Local councils need to think about cheaper charging for flat owners and space.
As mentioned before, a standard wallbox is 11kw output here, which is a jump from 7kw, but 3 phase is needed.
Agree EV, trucks, vans and buses doesn't make sense, but maybe hydrogen could play a part for the buses. Germany has 86 hydrogen filling stations. The goverment invested 500m euros into development projects. Toyota ran a fleet of hydrogen cars here in Hannover.
For trucks, on some sections of the Autobahn A1 and A5, there are overhead electric cables for charging trucks on the move (never seen one in action).
German government also give you a refund for having an EV, its about 100 euros a year, you just need to enter the vin number on the net with your address.
Here in Germany, we use litres per 100km, this makes sense.
Regarding tyres, maybe cars need to have torque limits at lower speeds, so the tyres aren't ripped up. Maybe all season tyres would reduce the need for winters & summers (small % in UK I know).
More should be done to promote solar panels in the UK for homes and at lower costs.
Some well informed and interesting points Richard, but I’m unsure where the used market will go, I can only imagine the VED and fuel duty will be ratcheted up between now and 2030 for petrol and diesel cars, making them less appealing.
I think the same and it will be a lot more in April again!
Policy wonks and politicians with zero expertise should have no place in making such decisions.
This mandate is a vanity project being rushed through without proper strategy and thought as to the consequences. Manufacturers need time to develop and evolve the technologies required to get anywhere close to targets over the next 50 years, not the next 5 years! Suggest to aim for lightweight efficient vehicle technologies and stop filling the roads with unnecessarily huge SUV's
I think evs should be made to have tyres that are not made from fossil fuels.
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EVs last, typically, 7/8 years when the warranty runs out(or 100,000 miles), after that they're basically worth scrap value, ie you don't spend more on a car than it's worth.
ICE cars typically last for 15 years when they reach the same tipping point.
So we're buying more expensive vehicles which last half as long, and this is claimed to be the green alternative.
Clown World.
That’s complete nonsense. Average EV batteries will last at least 300k. The rest of the car is another matter
@@sagalout THAT is complete nonsense and if you bother to watch auction videos you will see that EVs are worthless when the warranty runs out.
Crap you just made up.
I can’t be bothered to correct you because you haven’t got a clue and won’t listen anyway.
@@philiplindley7384 you’re talking about depreciation not actual reliability. The value is lower because people don’t fully trust battery powered cars yet, when in actual fact they are far far more reliable than your average ICE car out of warranty. A 10 year Tesla, out of warranty is still £10-20k, so hardly scrap value! I drive both. I wouldnt hesitate in buying a 100k mile Tesla, but I’d be getting a detailed inspection on most 100k ICE cars with the knowledge it’s going to need money spending on it. There are loads of Tesla’s outside of warranty on the roads with perfectly good batteries, plus there are fixable out of warranty, with cells replaceable by specialists rather than having to replace a whole battery
@@sagalout I'm willing to bet you don't have an old EV so your comment is worthless(like 7/8 year old EVs).
Also there is some evidence out there that the act of replacing individual cells actually causes more cells to fail. Nobody keeps mobile phones once their old (well, I do but I'm tight with money) so why would they keep old EVs?
We do have E5 and E10 fuel, we've had it a few years now in the UK. Regular unleaded is usually E10 and Super unleaded/premium, whatever you want to call it, is currently E5, 10% and 5% ethanol.
I just noticed e20 on new petrol ⛽️ caps
I must first say I think Net Zero is a construct, but as far as The EV mandate, if Evs were so great then they would not need subsidies, and we should have choice that way if EVs were what everyone wanted then they wouldn't need to mandate it, I would be happy with a pure Hybrid but an ev wouldn't suit me or my life style 🙂
Plant Food implicated in good weather? If the populace and motor manufacturers go along with idiocy it's merely a confirmation and encouragement for further dictats for idiocy and subservience.
I agree wholeheartedly.
I’ve just posted that, by being reasonable, we’re accepting idiocy.
We just stop doing this.
I’m a biologist. I know we’re being lied to 24/7 about the plandemic.
The biggest problem for me in what you are suggesting is that to enable these policies you need to have a "smart meter" and a "smart charger" Having these means that you lose control of your supply as was seen in Australia where the power company switched off all the air conditioners in sweltering heat of the people who had smart meters because the grid couldn't cope. I will not have a smart meter or smart chager which means I will not have an EV or plug-in hybrid. The Net Zero programme being pushed by Miliband the Mad will destroy this country.
I see an electric refuse vehicle on the M5 being towed south, on the side of the vehicle was emblazoned the future is electric?
It was on the back of a. Diesel artic unit 😂😂
They don't even have the Range to get to a customer!!
This is supposed to be all about reducing Co2 .....right ??? ...saving the planet.....Think about this.
I was thinking about buying a small Suzuki car about 2018. I noted its co2 output was 89gms.
Then they decided to "go green " and change all their cars to "mild hybrids ". This involved putting a " Hybrid " badge on the back although it would not drive on electric only and they installed a battery under the passenger's seat.
So now, I assume, because it is heavier, the Co2 output for the very same car is 114 gms ?????????
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I would be delighted to end the smelly noisy destructive plague of off road bikes
For commercial trucking, check out the Rangeenergy concept. Electrifying the trailer to improve efficiency, instead of creating EV trucks.
Batteries are too heavy.
The payload would have to be reduced.
@ I’m assuming u have fully researched Rangeenergy then.
There is no perfect solution to reducing emissions.
I own a wheel/tyre business and the industry trend and advice from the largest wholesaler in the UK (who happens to be owned by Continental) is that EVs get through 3x the tyres of standard cars. Not really a surprise with all the extra weight of batteries and the instant torque pushing onto the tarmac...
Mandate or not, nobody is forcing anyone to get an electric car. Even after 2030 you can still buy a used ICE car. If they are as reliable as you guys say, this won’t even be an issue for several decades
Think of your favourite food, (let’s say steak) if the government suddenly banned it and brought in a policy that the substitute for steak was tripe, you could just not buy tripe, but you’d miss steak and be pretty peeved your freedom of choice had been taken away.
If EVs actually were a better alternative to ICE vehicles, there would be no debate, no resistance.
Your basing your views on EVs on your own experience, needs , preferences and circumstances, that’s a pretty selfish way to formulate an opinion.
@ the government haven’t banned anything. As I said, after 2030 nothing is stopping you from buying a used ICE car. The steak analogy doesn’t work here at all
Some kind of flow battery might be viable... Two tanks, one for fresh and the other for spent electrolyte. A pump flows the electrolyte through a catalyst to rob the electrons. Recharge can be as quick as filling the Dino tank.
Check. Vanadium flow battery as an example.
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Why complicate a car with a battery to charge, replace, is just as flammable. I want a nice economical petrol engine car, I don't want gadgets, a stereo and electric windows will do, then I might be able to afford the bloody thing!
Nut zero will see us having an energy crisis whilst other countries will have nuclear , oil , gas , coal ,and they will laugh at us well done miliband
I seen this update with the 115g/km co2
Wait until your house is burning down and the fire engine is being charged.
I think manufacturers will do in 2028 and 2029 what they are doing now to push up the registration of electric cars.That is PRE-REGISTRATION which is why there are so many cars with mileages of below 100 miles which are for sale well below any new prices as laid down by the manufacturers.Come 2028/29 they could pre-register 1000s of petrol/diesel vehicles which could be legally sold on well into the 2030s.That will give the government something to think about.
You might be surprised to hear this from someone that has owned a ZE Renault Twizy for many years. My vehicle and maybe the Citroen Ami are perfect for the majority of sub 4 mile, daily journeys that I undertake. I can charge and garage it at home and we have a petrol car for longer journeys. I believe that apart from those two quads our currently available EVs are NOT the answer and should not be forced upon anyone. The technology is flawed and not properly developed, EVs are too big, too heavy for our roads, expensive and inefficient. I think your short term solution is correct except I am sure that the future for vans, lorries, buses, earthmovers, dumpers, mobile cranes and other heavy plant is hydrogen power NEVER electric. We should be grateful as a nation to Lord Bamford of JCB. The research and development that he has financed and undertaken without any government help, into Hydrogen gas production, storage, transport and the modification of diesel engines to run reliably on this gas, should be applauded. If our useless deaf, government does not wake up, we will have no motor industry left in the UK. Thousands of people in dealership networks and the supply chain will be out of work. European vehicle manufacturers will go to the wall and the whole of Europe will be flooded with poorly made disposable Chinese vehicles that will help destroy the planet even faster.
price of ev cars -vans compared with ice is out of the range of most folk.
I thought the initial idea was to be green, great for the environment, long lasting, low waste, but they are all completely different.
So to keep costs down, help recycling, help parts availability, be GREEN why don't they...
share standard components, controllers, cpu, displays, motors, battery's etc etc
I know body's are a different shape but batteries could be built from a smaller standard brickette sized battery which is easily replaceable
when parts get superseded keep same mounting so the could retro fit old vehicles
they had a fresh start with EVs to do the right thing and look what happens!
(we all know why tho, they'd rather sell you a new car!)
Bodies a different shape!!!!😂
If it's below 22% for EVs then the car industry is screwed if they have to pay £15000 for every petrol or diesel car sold
Go and talk to Quentin Wilson. He will put you straight.
If electric isnt for everyone? What do them people do?
Great video.
100% agree with the points made which are well thought out and logical.
I was also very interested to hear your thoughts on Mild hybrid cars as I have just bought 2 in the last month. A Petrol hot hatch and MHD mid size diesel SUV. So far I am very impressed with the balance of ICE and electrical assistance. Such a shame that these very capable and low CO2 emoting vehicles will be mandated out of production in the next 5 years. It will be interesting to see how there re sale values hold up as we march towards a full EV new car world.
Thanks Julian, my daughter has said no way to full electric, so looking forward to a mild hybrid car to try again.
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I will be in the same journey next year when my eldest daughter has passed her test. Good luck.
Britain doesn’t have a CO2 problem, Britain has a problem that the state is sold out and run by WEF globalists. Electric cars do have their place, but we shouldn’t be bullied in to getting one. They shouldn’t be subsidised and tax reliefs should be the same for EV and ICE vehicles.
We only have limited time to spend on this planet and I much rather prefer spending it with my family, rather than sitting at a charger in motorway services for hours.
Small electric city cars for people who do 100-150 miles max per day are perfect. We definitely don’t need silly stupid massive things like Cybertrucks for example.
Someone needs to produce kits to convert ICE to hybrid! Prolonging the life of secondhand cars. Modified gearboxes with electric motors.
A petition needs activated-
Hi Richard, I really enjoyed your vlog this evening. Everything you say has a lot of logic about it😊 so that's a plus. But there's no need to worry, this lot of idiots won't be in power in 5 years time and it will all change and the new government will scrap all this zero emissions nonsense. Happy New Year to you🎉 cheers 🍺 🍻🥂🥳🍷
Thanks Steven, Happy New Year!
Are there any manual EV? Because I refuse to drive an automatic
No gearbox. No need.
Speaking to someone who has recently retired from the national grid I was asking him about charging cars and the grid and he said, EVs, data centres and normal growth in power consumption means by 2030 we need a minimum of 50% increase of power generation to keep the grid in balance. You have about a 2% difference between power generation and power usage if it goes much further than that it's out of balance and can collapse. But what you need to know is an over power can be difficult to deal with quickly, but an under power can be dealt with quickly by power cuts to some areas. So if you believe that wind and solar are not going to be consistent and you understand that battery storage is stupid and costly you are probably right, so it's power cuts then.
Or they take the power back out or EVs 🤣
@Challengetheroad how can I help
Why is battery storage stupid?
Look up the Megapacks installed in South Australia to stop power outages and the ones in Texas that do the same.
@Piecenotwar to power the USA for one day would take all the batteries made at the Tesla mega factory for the next 500 years. I quote USA because we don't make batteries. Also colbalt, lithium copper and nickel all make in the mining produce water pollution air pollution scar the landscape and shortens life expectancy and destroys local communitys. Then it's moved to a process plant via diesel power and more water pollution is made. Then it's transported to battery plants using diesel power and then plastic from the petrochemical industry is added to the jellyroll and other plastic components are used including insulated wire. Then the batteries are shipped from China using diesel power around the world and we buy them as clean energy storage. We also buy solar panels from China and as for windmills well apart from the 150 tonnes of concrete foundations and the 100 tonnes of steel in the tower and the 32 tonnes of hi carbon steel gears at the top of the tower and the gearbox filled with 180 LTRs of gear oil thanks petrochemical industry. Other than all of that it's clean energy!!!! Don't make me laugh you have been had by lies and I feel sorry for you
@ You are dribbling shit mate.
Battery storage to store energy when there’s an oversupply of it and dump it back when it’s required under high demand.