I travelled today and we stopped at Skelton services near Leeds, idiots queuing to get on a charger one reverse out the other 2 inches from it driving in, where as we pulled up, I walked the dogs round the field, my wife got us a coffee and then we watch our daughter play on the play area, heading back to our car got in it and continued our journey, chilled relaxing, meanwhile the idiots are still aggressively watching and waiting for a charger to become free, I just find it hilarious how stupid people are.
They tell you to only charge the battery to 80% for optimum battery health. In reality, this is a marketing ploy to get EV's off charging points quicker.
Yeah, but haven’t you heard from the EV fanboys, they’re the best thing since sliced bread, and if you don’t comply you’re a racist…or something…😂😂😂🇬🇧🏴👍
EVs remind of that 'vegan meat' They make it look like a sausage. They call it a sausage.' It might even smell like a 'sausage' But it tastes like shit...
Yes, at the right price. It's a gamble with something as expensive as an EV battery as it's lifespan will have a lot to do with the state of charge it was left at for18 months. But if they've only done three miles the state of charge wont be far away from what it was when new, possibly 50% which will be fine. The manufacturer won't charge them up to 100% capacity or anywhere near that as that reduces their lifespan if they're parked up waiting to be sold.
Rover dealerships used to do this, registered the dealerships as the first owner to get the perks then sell to the public, they got caught as rover offered a great deal for first owners and someone tried to claim and got told sorry you are the 2nd owner,
Brilliantly said on the noises. That, for me, is the biggest issue with EVs. I'm 50. At 21 I had a TVR with a 4 litre V8. I've had high performance petrol cars that sound AWESOME throughout my life ever since. An EV is the antithesis of that.
I didn't realise lewelyn actually speaks like kryton in real life. I had assumed it was part of the act. Maybe other bits of his personality are like krytons
50 meters from my garden gate is an owner of three EV's a Tesla and two other junkers which I have never bothered to check what they actually are but I often see them plugged in and on charge. So when one of them goes bang as in the next 3 years could well be the case I wonder what will stop the three of them and the house going with it? Actually our power here is all overhead lines and is of course like running an electric shower for 6 hours at a time which you would never do so if you have three EV's you could need to have 24hours of 9KW power draw, 8 hours each. Really? Is there any sense in that? Oh and if we in this road all had a single EV they would have to demolish the houses next to the substations to build bigger ones as there is just not the capacity to provide this sort of power continuously. There are 105 cars in my road so that is almost an extra million watts peak current delivery just for my road if everyone wanted to charge their cars over night. Come on you bloody idiots do you really think that will work? And then they tell us to save the planet they will turn off the gas so everything will have to be electric. Where do these psychopaths get their ideas from? How big do you think every sub station will have to be to cope with that demand? Your EV will be remotely controlled so that you won't be allowed to charge it when you want or drive it where and when you want. You are being controlled and your new Valhalla is just a tease to ensure you engage with the psychopaths plan.
it is also the case now that some EV manufactures are telling owners not to park their cars near a house in case they catch fire. Odd that manufacturers of petrol and diesel cars don't say that. It is also the case that you will not be able to get house insurance if you have an EV. EVs really are the future, not.
@JohnMackenzieInverness yeah true, I think whatever you spend on one you have to be prepared to lose most of your money, because at the moment they will be worth a balloon and a sticker when you come to move them on.
I enjoy this type of exposure video Barrie! These delivery mileage cars are amazing - and at BCA rather than the closed dealer network auctions. Are the initial reg numbers linked to head offices like ‘K’ for Mercs or ‘Y’ for BMW etc? Keep going pal, these finding are so telling.
You won't hear much about ev sales for January because the percentage of evs will be in the gutter due to all the "held back" ice cars being released for registration. But when sales "normalise" in February the media will be crowing about the surge in ev percentage compared to January figures.
ICE vehicles are being held back by manufacturers as they must fill the government quotas for mobile time bombs or be fined , that is one reason for the collapse of VW fields full of ICE cars in Germany.
Baz - on the Dutch Autotrader website - Fiat 500e - built in Jan 2023 (nearly 2 years ago!) 10km on the clock, yours for..... € 34,840! 35 grand for a tiny 3 door run-about is pure madness, add to that it's been sitting around who-knows-where for 2 full years! Connect the charger cable and stand well back! 🤣
Someone needs to get a grip on this EV situation or lots of dealers and manufacturers are going to go to the wall. It's a world wide issue not just the lunatics running our asylum and if big players fold un-employment and recession will follow. Keep up the good work Barrie
Yep, that's the plan. It's that big, and that insane that no-one would believe anyone would do that. Just hang your clothes on the peg and remember the number...for when you come out of the showers.
Yes! It’s not about replacing ICE one-for-one. Only the wealthy will be able to afford the Chinese made EVs of the future. Everybody else will walk, cycle, ride public transport - around their 15 minute zones.
NO BAS NO!! Ev sales are up 33% I can prove it .........just driven back from Portsmouth down to Cornwall and there must be a New years knees up for the Ev community as I've seen them all parked up in a field... tried to get in with me old diesel van . But they must of seen me and locked the gates 😮😢😢
Scary thought, what's the battery management of them like, ice car you just disconnect the battery and that pretty much your storage prep done, you can't do that with an EV as the battery needs to be monitored, creating a small but very real drain on the 12v "running" battery, long term storage of these thing is fraught with problems.
Great vid mate, like n sub. Keep up the great vids. We are living in a different reality the last few years. The narrative of GREEN/CLEAN AIR/ZERO CARBON actually created by the oil industry decades ago and the two largest financial contributors to this agenda is Saudi and China. The ZERO CARBON AGENDA is going to end in tears in the next ten years in my opinion, but a lot of 1% of the 1% will have made a lot of money and assets in that time. While the rest of us WILL OWN NOTHING AND BE VERY UNHAPPY.
I have just renewed my house insurance with LG, a question was asked that was not included 12 months ago, "Question, is there an EV car charger attached to the property" That was a quick no, but that got me thinking, does the insurance company apply a loading for an EV, I didn't persue it,is it even relevant, but a big insurance company are asking questions that may/may not have a bearing on a renewal 🤔
Maybe they missed the k off of the mileage? But obviously most normal people with families know you can’t travel lots of miles with children and certain people with disabilities that will need the facilities when you’re low on electricity, so can’t see it as an option for any family with young children or grandchildren, especially if you can’t charge at home! ❤
They are pushing them for notability customers IE exactly the disabled that you are talking about. Also they will have difficulty evacuating if it catches fire.
Thanks for doing these videos over the holiday period. I really can relate to what you're saying. On a slightly different subject, maybe during these next few months you'd consider highlighting the joys of public charging on freezing cold, wet, windy, wintry days V's the convenience of a splash and dash at a petrol station. To put that into perspective we've all pulled in to a petrol station and someone is at the pump we want to use - and we're all like "oh for god sake hurry up" Now measure that against waiting for electric charging. AARRRGGGHHHHHHH cue the real fume!!!!!! All the EV shills will scream "Get a home charger" - i wonder have they ever been in a high rise or walked down streets with row after row of terraced houses - like in Preston, Blackburn, Liverpool, Manchester and lots of other areas. Hope this all makes sense. CUE the FUME LOL!!!!!! Cheers Barrie - all the best.
Yeah Barrie, your title says it all. Something very odd is going on. The gov, legislators, whoever must be aware of this, as it's certainly going to affect huge numbers of businesses. And ultimately jobs, mortgages, retail sales etc. And the gov is now asking how we can get the UK to grow. This sort of short sighted stupidity is what starts recessions... And we all know it's just to meet the mandated sales percentages. Just nuts.
When I started with a company that provided a car, I started with a contract hire car for about 9 months until I chose a lease car. They had a sticker on the dash telling me to contact them when I was getting close to 10,000 miles, then they brought another while the old one went to the auction. 14 miles is probably just enough to drive around the airfield.
They've invested in everything so a loss on one side (cars for example) is a gain on the other (public transport providers.) As insidious as they are I do have to tip my hat to them. And we need to stop giving them money that they then use to dicate how we live our lives.
The Y Is going to Newcastle killed me. So they are registering EVs to themselves and then reselling throughout the year to achieve Zero Emissions targets?
Degradation can be minimized by having it at storage charge, about 50%, but it will still have degraded, maybe 1 or 2%. The carmaker are sneaky, however. They quote a "usable" capacity, say 65kWH, when the battery is actually 70kWh. They can then increasingly access that spare capacity as the battery ages, to mask the decline in capacity.
You only get 2 hours free parking at motorway service stations then they ANPR sting you for a minimum of £15 building up thelonger you stay. Have been several times and seen people shouting at each other at charging points for charging over 80% when there is a queue and people are about to get stung.
Do you realise that these 1 year old cars with 2 previous owners & only 9 miles are a way of screwing the sales figures. When sold, the 1 car will count as 1 new EV sale & 2 used EV sales. 3 sales in the space of 9 miles. Very clever!
Have you seen the MacMasters latest video in which his insurance company won’t insure his Taycan or his house as long as he has an EV. Could this be the end of the EV dream, death by insurance refusal?
Middle of last year I grew a very EV friendly travel pattern. 2x 10 mile out, 10 mile back journeys per weekday, 40 weeks a year, an all-home-charging friendly pattern. This will happen for the next 5 years, possibly 7. Cost of petrol: £1500 per year. I figured I could save with an EV, so I looked at getting one. No matter which way I looked at it, it was cheaper to buy the petrol for my current car than get an EV, even over 7 years (that's over £10K in petrol). I looked at buying the cheapest possible EV as an extra car, buying a second hand EV or hybrid that was more capable and could actually fully replace an existing car, and even leasing one - both on salary sacrifice and privately. Everything was more expensive. The surprise killer was insurance, I got no quotes for any EV less than 4x the annual cost of my current car.
People are getting wise and realise that EV's are not the answer. Meanwhile, the rest of the world will be driving petrol and Diesel cars while we have to suffer this madness of Net Zero nonsense
And these are the better EVs, imagine the tacky ones like the funky cat? Would love to see what they go for? I would imagine hanging around for a year does no good for the battery either?
At my massive Sainsbury's and next door retail park, there are sometimes 500 cars parked. There is 1 petrol station always full. There are just 2 public chargers, always full too. Tell me if we ALL drove electric cars and only a few had home charging what would happen?
I had a Peugeot 208e in 2022 as a needs company car, paid about £10a month for it and had charger fitted at home. And to be honest i loved it. But when the company took it away the lease company said i could buy it for 32k! 18 months on that same car is worth 15k max.
If EV’s covered all the bases that an ICE can do then this wouldn’t be happening. You’ll struggle to find an ICE car made within the past decade that couldn’t get at least 400 miles to a tank unless it was more performance-oriented (but even then you still could), a 10 year old Astra would get over 800 bloody miles to a tank. But you just know the first thing EV Shills will say to that is “well why do you need all that range you’re not going to drive 800 miles in one go”, but it’s not for driving it in one stint it’s the peace of mind knowing you won’t have to visit a fuel station for a long long time, EV’s on the other hand… We’ve been told for YEARS that “better battery technology is coming” yet here we are, a modern Astra EV that has 200 miles of range… if it’s not cold outside, and you don’t use the aircon.
I used to top up once every two to three weeks on average for commuting and shopping and rarely more than half a tank. So refuelling time was max ten minutes per three weeks. And I never had to buy any expensive coffee
With so many of these cars being laden with advanced electronics it would be fascinating to interrogate an example to see where they have been all of their lives. Unlike the 1980s when unregistered cars were stockpiled, some for nearly 3 years this time around it is cars that have been registered. Of course one side effect could be that when someone eventually buys one of these cars to actually drive it the car may be very close to needing first MOT.
Even worse is the effect it has on the wheel bearings. If the wheels are not periodically rotated, with all of that weight on a point force load over time the bearings would suffer brinelling, making them brittle and prone to early failure.
It's dealerships getting their quota of ev sales at the end of the year so they can sell the cars people really want to buy. It's actually cheaper to sell EVs at a big loss than get hit with multiple government sanctions for selling ice cars people are buying before the mandated ev sales have been met. The times that the government has mandated something on the British people and they have accepted? I could count them perhaps on on hand, the majority being during war time.
I watched this 11 minute video and such is the desperation of the EV sellers, i had six ads for them. I exit out, come back in, and up pops another! I suspect the advertisers along with TH-cam are carpet bombing every so called 'anti-EV' podcast with EV ads? Maybe to stop us watching. I however persevere 😂
Manufacturer develops a small battery POS electric with build cost of say 5k. Register it and drive it to landfill. Save 15k fine on selling a Mustang. Add 5k to the sticker price of the Mustang to cover the extra cost ( be honest - we’d pay it to avoid the wheeled-battery). everyone wins -except the planet but what EV shill actually cares about that….
You only couldn't afford to go back to an ICE vehicle due to losing so much money on the depreciation and no resale value on your duracell powered plastic car..keep fooling yourself and I'll keep driving my ICE 4x4 with the heater or aircon on and not give a toss about the 450 mile range my car has.🤣🤣🤣
Battle technology is constantly being improved and being made more efficient so all EV's are going to depreciate as quickly as if they were pushed of a cliff, which incidentally is where they should live their short lives
I can see this guy getting a visit from PLOD, being questioned for spreading "misinformation". under the online safety act. Yes I know he's speaking the TRUTH, but we now live in a police state and telling the truth is the most dangerous thing to do.
Dealers will pre register new cars to meet their bonus targets. The bonus payment from manufacturers is worth far more than the depreciation on the car. These will be going to auction as, even with a reduced price, the cars never left the showroom floor. Not sure about the multiple ownerships unless they were moved between dealers in a group of dealerships. With manufacturers facing huge financial penalties for not selling cars that no one wants they will have to get far more inventive in their methods to cloud sales figures.
They get fined if the % EV sold ie registered isn't high enough. It's about 15K fine, so cheaper to take a loss, a tax write down and no doubt other inducement from the manufacturers to make the numbers fit the policy. A really cynical move would be to import a really cheap ev, that's absolutly rubbish designed to go direct to the crusher to make the numbers work. Make it 100% recyclable by just unbolting the parts and putting them on another chassis to reimport as "new".
My uncle brought a ev he had it 2 years and had sold it to go back to ic car ,the reason being lack of range lack of charging points,he wants to do some serious touring but doesn’t trust the charging network,
40 million registered vehicles in the UK. Average EV uses about 5MWh annually. How many wind turbines and solar panels (intermittent, unreliable, must be backed up with firm power ready to go when wind stops or sun. fails, will it take to power all these EV's?
5MWh annually, be real, average car use 7400 miles 3.5mpkWh is 2MWh per car not 5! I've ran the maths, it would take 8.2GWh of capacity to power the full 34m UK car fleet. Average use this year is 30.1GW hours, and there over 74GW of installed capacity. Then discount all the never EVers, and the significant amount of power saved refining oil, delivering, and powering the petrol/diesel station network.
so, what prices did these go for? - I was interested in a Zoe GTr135 six months back generally selling @ £6200 - same car now is over £8000........ I would jump at an in warranty Zoe or similar if, as u say prices have plummeted in recent months, £6.2k minus a 'plummet' would be what, £4k - I would run full steam toward such a deal, if only 18mhs left on the 5 yr warranty - ie 3 times as old as the ones u discuss - I would be happy at up to 50,000 mls too, not 4 miles - any offers?
Clocking them prior to first MOT? If they don't service it and just run it into the ground which you could probably get away with more on an EV then there isnt really any "record" of it having any higher mileage that a new owner could check is there? Visually if you know what you're looking at you'd be able to tell, wear lip on brake discs, tyres with wear, etc cos at 1 mile you'd still see the Sprue's from the moulding process when the tyres were made.
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Hiya Barrie,no answers regarding the cause of the current glut of ev's. Could be why the German manufacturing plant closed? Guess it must be because they are a hazardous, non practical folly i suppose.
I am still driving my audi s4, 213,000 miles later its still going fine....has lpg conversion as well so no ulez, old cars are great just look after them
Each person has their own ideas and visions, I have not had any problems with my EV, I do like the remote heating and AC that i can put on or off, nice for the dog. If I was likely to do more miles than I do, or longer journeys I probably would not have bought an EV, the same as not buying a "super mini" because the dog and the parents cannot fit in one. Keep that grin on your face when the next oil shortage arrives.
I travelled today and we stopped at Skelton services near Leeds, idiots queuing to get on a charger one reverse out the other 2 inches from it driving in, where as we pulled up, I walked the dogs round the field, my wife got us a coffee and then we watch our daughter play on the play area, heading back to our car got in it and continued our journey, chilled relaxing, meanwhile the idiots are still aggressively watching and waiting for a charger to become free, I just find it hilarious how stupid people are.
Same mob that followed one-way arrow stickers on the supermarket floor a few years back...
And they spend a fortune on coffee 😂
@@Steve-gc5ntand doughnuts + 1stone per year 😂😂😂
They tell you to only charge the battery to 80% for optimum battery health. In reality, this is a marketing ploy to get EV's off charging points quicker.
Yeah, but haven’t you heard from the EV fanboys, they’re the best thing since sliced bread, and if you don’t comply you’re a racist…or something…😂😂😂🇬🇧🏴👍
EVs should stand on their own feet. Neither ban, promote or subsidise the things.
Agreed
What tge British government are doing is criminal, corrupt muthas
That's not the agenda!!
Very true. If it is better, they will sell. If it is junk then they have to give them away.
They are standing on their own. No subs and from April 2025 will be the same tax band
EVs remind of that 'vegan meat'
They make it look like a sausage. They call it a sausage.' It might even smell like a 'sausage'
But it tastes like shit...
Why do vegans like their vegetables shaped like meat?
Yet another Govt sponsored scam.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Would you buy a pack of 2year old AA batteries?
Good brand yes Duracell have around 10 year shelf life
Yes, AA batteries have at least a five year shelf life.
Yes, at the right price. It's a gamble with something as expensive as an EV battery as it's lifespan will have a lot to do with the state of charge it was left at for18 months. But if they've only done three miles the state of charge wont be far away from what it was when new, possibly 50% which will be fine. The manufacturer won't charge them up to 100% capacity or anywhere near that as that reduces their lifespan if they're parked up waiting to be sold.
It depends who made them, China, no chance.
@@xperyskop2475 well mine are nackerd after two years
cheaper to register them and sell them at a loss than pay the government fines for not selling enough !
Rover dealerships used to do this, registered the dealerships as the first owner to get the perks then sell to the public, they got caught as rover offered a great deal for first owners and someone tried to claim and got told sorry you are the 2nd owner,
The battery car is a god send .... while there sat in cafe waiting for it to change there's more room on the road for my planet killer diesel😂😂
You should report this to you Local Trading Standards to investigate possible fraudulent misrepresentation.
He never said what any EV made at auction?
Surely the pre-registering has spiraled beyond what is managable
Brilliantly said on the noises. That, for me, is the biggest issue with EVs.
I'm 50. At 21 I had a TVR with a 4 litre V8. I've had high performance petrol cars that sound AWESOME throughout my life ever since.
An EV is the antithesis of that.
The lack of noise is one of the joys of EV ownership for me. I used to love the Porsche flat four noise but that was many years ago 😊
@@markreilly2660 ..six
You're welcome to your no noise, boredom shite box.
Total crap
@@alivekicking6247 calm down sunshine.
@@alivekicking6247 Shame on me for enjoying what you don't. Thankfully it's of no importance. Hate to see you when it is 🤣
Fully Discharged Show really irritates due to its disinformation and lies ... well done Barry keeping it real ... cheers
They kept fully recharging the show and now it needs a battery replacement. 😢
I didn't realise lewelyn actually speaks like kryton in real life. I had assumed it was part of the act. Maybe other bits of his personality are like krytons
50 meters from my garden gate is an owner of three EV's a Tesla and two other junkers which I have never bothered to check what they actually are but I often see them plugged in and on charge. So when one of them goes bang as in the next 3 years could well be the case I wonder what will stop the three of them and the house going with it? Actually our power here is all overhead lines and is of course like running an electric shower for 6 hours at a time which you would never do so if you have three EV's you could need to have 24hours of 9KW power draw, 8 hours each. Really? Is there any sense in that? Oh and if we in this road all had a single EV they would have to demolish the houses next to the substations to build bigger ones as there is just not the capacity to provide this sort of power continuously. There are 105 cars in my road so that is almost an extra million watts peak current delivery just for my road if everyone wanted to charge their cars over night. Come on you bloody idiots do you really think that will work? And then they tell us to save the planet they will turn off the gas so everything will have to be electric. Where do these psychopaths get their ideas from? How big do you think every sub station will have to be to cope with that demand? Your EV will be remotely controlled so that you won't be allowed to charge it when you want or drive it where and when you want. You are being controlled and your new Valhalla is just a tease to ensure you engage with the psychopaths plan.
Dead right it's just a tease,"they"want everyone off the road onto the rubish public transport system.
it is also the case now that some EV manufactures are telling owners not to park their cars near a house in case they catch fire. Odd that manufacturers of petrol and diesel cars don't say that. It is also the case that you will not be able to get house insurance if you have an EV. EVs really are the future, not.
Its easier to fool a man than to tell him hes being fooled ,Mark twain.
You can never win an argument with a Fool .......
It's a brave person who spends thousands on an EV at them moment
Or VERY STUPID and its not here look at the US Canada, Australia or NZ they are having the same issues with EVs
@JohnMackenzieInverness yeah true, I think whatever you spend on one you have to be prepared to lose most of your money, because at the moment they will be worth a balloon and a sticker when you come to move them on.
Yup, they have balls of lithium. 😂
I've heard the windows are made of toffee as well
I enjoy this type of exposure video Barrie!
These delivery mileage cars are amazing - and at BCA rather than the closed dealer network auctions.
Are the initial reg numbers linked to head offices like ‘K’ for Mercs or ‘Y’ for BMW etc?
Keep going pal, these finding are so telling.
Can't wait for the January ICE sales figures to be released 😂. The story will then be laid bare.
Don’t be so sure - dealers are registering evs to ‘prove’ they have ‘sold’ them so they sell something people want - and ICE!
They will be manipulated to look good
You won't hear much about ev sales for January because the percentage of evs will be in the gutter due to all the "held back" ice cars being released for registration. But when sales "normalise" in February the media will be crowing about the surge in ev percentage compared to January figures.
@garyives3318 yes, there's "spin" on everything nowadays.
ICE vehicles are being held back by manufacturers as they must fill the government quotas for mobile time bombs or be fined , that is one reason for the collapse of VW fields full of ICE cars in Germany.
Baz - on the Dutch Autotrader website - Fiat 500e - built in Jan 2023 (nearly 2 years ago!) 10km on the clock, yours for..... € 34,840! 35 grand for a tiny 3 door run-about is pure madness, add to that it's been sitting around who-knows-where for 2 full years! Connect the charger cable and stand well back! 🤣
Someone needs to get a grip on this EV situation or lots of dealers and manufacturers are going to go to the wall. It's a world wide issue not just the lunatics running our asylum and if big players fold un-employment and recession will follow. Keep up the good work Barrie
I suspect that making dealers and manufacturers bankrupt is the intention, rather than an unintended side-effect.
Yep, that's the plan. It's that big, and that insane that no-one would believe anyone would do that. Just hang your clothes on the peg and remember the number...for when you come out of the showers.
I think that would be political suicide think of benefits bill for all the people out of work@boostar155
Yes! It’s not about replacing ICE one-for-one. Only the wealthy will be able to afford the Chinese made EVs of the future. Everybody else will walk, cycle, ride public transport - around their 15 minute zones.
That's the plan...
NO BAS NO!! Ev sales are up 33% I can prove it .........just driven back from Portsmouth down to Cornwall and there must be a New years knees up for the Ev community as I've seen them all parked up in a field... tried to get in with me old diesel van .
But they must of seen me and locked the gates 😮😢😢
Where was this? I thought it was ICE cars being parked up for delivery in January to avoid fines.
Either way the system is broken.
I'm SHOCKED you'd want to be associated with them! :D
But that's Ok, cos we're all sorted out for EV's and Matiz
Was a great knees up, they all sat in their EV's reading the guardian without being brave enough to turn the radio on.
Scary thought, what's the battery management of them like, ice car you just disconnect the battery and that pretty much your storage prep done, you can't do that with an EV as the battery needs to be monitored, creating a small but very real drain on the 12v "running" battery, long term storage of these thing is fraught with problems.
Great video. Yet more confirmation that EV'S don't stand up to scrutiny. Give me that Mustang 5L any day!🙂
Great vid mate, like n sub. Keep up the great vids. We are living in a different reality the last few years. The narrative of GREEN/CLEAN AIR/ZERO CARBON actually created by the oil industry decades ago and the two largest financial contributors to this agenda is Saudi and China. The ZERO CARBON AGENDA is going to end in tears in the next ten years in my opinion, but a lot of 1% of the 1% will have made a lot of money and assets in that time. While the rest of us WILL OWN NOTHING AND BE VERY UNHAPPY.
There have been report's of people not getting house insurance with a battery car in the home garage
I have just renewed my house insurance with LG, a question was asked that was not included 12 months ago, "Question, is there an EV car charger attached to the property" That was a quick no, but that got me thinking, does the insurance company apply a loading for an EV, I didn't persue it,is it even relevant, but a big insurance company are asking questions that may/may not have a bearing on a renewal 🤔
Maybe they missed the k off of the mileage? But obviously most normal people with families know you can’t travel lots of miles with children and certain people with disabilities that will need the facilities when you’re low on electricity, so can’t see it as an option for any family with young children or grandchildren, especially if you can’t charge at home! ❤
They are pushing them for notability customers IE exactly the disabled that you are talking about. Also they will have difficulty evacuating if it catches fire.
Thanks for doing these videos over the holiday period.
I really can relate to what you're saying.
On a slightly different subject, maybe during these next few months you'd consider highlighting the joys of public charging on freezing cold, wet, windy, wintry days V's the convenience of a splash and dash at a petrol station.
To put that into perspective we've all pulled in to a petrol station and someone is at the pump we want to use - and we're all like "oh for god sake hurry up" Now measure that against waiting for electric charging.
AARRRGGGHHHHHHH cue the real fume!!!!!!
All the EV shills will scream "Get a home charger" - i wonder have they ever been in a high rise or walked down streets with row after row of terraced houses - like in Preston, Blackburn, Liverpool, Manchester and lots of other areas.
Hope this all makes sense.
CUE the FUME LOL!!!!!!
Cheers Barrie - all the best.
0:03 funny they all seem to be first registered on the last day of the month, very strange ?
dealers do that with all vehicles to get the monthly bonus from the manufacturer
Yeah Barrie, your title says it all.
Something very odd is going on.
The gov, legislators, whoever must be aware of this, as it's certainly going to affect huge numbers of businesses. And ultimately jobs, mortgages, retail sales etc.
And the gov is now asking how we can get the UK to grow. This sort of short sighted stupidity is what starts recessions...
And we all know it's just to meet the mandated sales percentages.
Just nuts.
You are assuming they care. If ttk and co are hard core communists at heart, then destroying the economy and thus society is the mission.
No warranty as no service history!
very good point. 2-3 years without a ‘12 month’ service = warranty claim denied.
When I started with a company that provided a car, I started with a contract hire car for about 9 months until I chose a lease car. They had a sticker on the dash telling me to contact them when I was getting close to 10,000 miles, then they brought another while the old one went to the auction. 14 miles is probably just enough to drive around the airfield.
I wonder if Blackrock have invested into electric cars.
They've invested in everything so a loss on one side (cars for example) is a gain on the other (public transport providers.)
As insidious as they are I do have to tip my hat to them. And we need to stop giving them money that they then use to dicate how we live our lives.
What am I supposed to do with a 3y old bags of expired chemicals that are at the same time fire hazards?
The Y Is going to Newcastle killed me. So they are registering EVs to themselves and then reselling throughout the year to achieve Zero Emissions targets?
Superb Barrie, keep ramming it home. Love it. 💯👌🏻
If they were any good you wouldn’t need to force them on people
What is the condition of the battery if it’s not been charged regularly?
Degradation can be minimized by having it at storage charge, about 50%, but it will still have degraded, maybe 1 or 2%. The carmaker are sneaky, however. They quote a "usable" capacity, say 65kWH, when the battery is actually 70kWh. They can then increasingly access that spare capacity as the battery ages, to mask the decline in capacity.
You only get 2 hours free parking at motorway service stations then they ANPR sting you for a minimum of £15 building up thelonger you stay. Have been several times and seen people shouting at each other at charging points for charging over 80% when there is a queue and people are about to get stung.
Do you realise that these 1 year old cars with 2 previous owners & only 9 miles are a way of screwing the sales figures. When sold, the 1 car will count as 1 new EV sale & 2 used EV sales. 3 sales in the space of 9 miles. Very clever!
Have you seen the MacMasters latest video in which his insurance company won’t insure his Taycan or his house as long as he has an EV. Could this be the end of the EV dream, death by insurance refusal?
I think they are all unwanted Christmas presents😅
Middle of last year I grew a very EV friendly travel pattern. 2x 10 mile out, 10 mile back journeys per weekday, 40 weeks a year, an all-home-charging friendly pattern. This will happen for the next 5 years, possibly 7. Cost of petrol: £1500 per year. I figured I could save with an EV, so I looked at getting one. No matter which way I looked at it, it was cheaper to buy the petrol for my current car than get an EV, even over 7 years (that's over £10K in petrol). I looked at buying the cheapest possible EV as an extra car, buying a second hand EV or hybrid that was more capable and could actually fully replace an existing car, and even leasing one - both on salary sacrifice and privately. Everything was more expensive. The surprise killer was insurance, I got no quotes for any EV less than 4x the annual cost of my current car.
People are getting wise and realise that EV's are not the answer.
Meanwhile, the rest of the world will be driving petrol and Diesel cars while we have to suffer this madness of
Net Zero nonsense
Ev's are rubbish
I love my mercedes e220d estate and won't change to electric car EVER 😎
Based on your assessment of never owning one! That's like a child saying 'they don't like vegetables' having not tried them.
Which ones did you test clinger?
Sounds like they keep kicking that can down the road. Eventually someone will catch on to what they're doing
Brilliant video Barrie.
I see why it’s done 9 miles now, the previous owner didn’t opt for the long range extension cord. 😂
And these are the better EVs, imagine the tacky ones like the funky cat? Would love to see what they go for? I would imagine hanging around for a year does no good for the battery either?
Well done Baz, keep the pressure on
Nice one Barrie, keep up the good work and keep well.
At my massive Sainsbury's and next door retail park, there are sometimes 500 cars parked. There is 1 petrol station always full. There are just 2 public chargers, always full too. Tell me if we ALL drove electric cars and only a few had home charging what would happen?
I had a Peugeot 208e in 2022 as a needs company car, paid about £10a month for it and had charger fitted at home. And to be honest i loved it. But when the company took it away the lease company said i could buy it for 32k! 18 months on that same car is worth 15k max.
If EV’s covered all the bases that an ICE can do then this wouldn’t be happening.
You’ll struggle to find an ICE car made within the past decade that couldn’t get at least 400 miles to a tank unless it was more performance-oriented (but even then you still could), a 10 year old Astra would get over 800 bloody miles to a tank.
But you just know the first thing EV Shills will say to that is “well why do you need all that range you’re not going to drive 800 miles in one go”, but it’s not for driving it in one stint it’s the peace of mind knowing you won’t have to visit a fuel station for a long long time, EV’s on the other hand…
We’ve been told for YEARS that “better battery technology is coming” yet here we are, a modern Astra EV that has 200 miles of range… if it’s not cold outside, and you don’t use the aircon.
I used to top up once every two to three weeks on average for commuting and shopping and rarely more than half a tank. So refuelling time was max ten minutes per three weeks. And I never had to buy any expensive coffee
Thank you for investigating this good man .
What a crazy situation all that loss no wonder manufacturers are going bust .
2 years old with 10 miles on the clock....can't be good having the car standing still for those 2 years. Avoid like the plague.
Square tyres
Brand new MG4s £10,000 off list on Autotrader. Plenty of demand.😃
With so many of these cars being laden with advanced electronics it would be fascinating to interrogate an example to see where they have been all of their lives. Unlike the 1980s when unregistered cars were stockpiled, some for nearly 3 years this time around it is cars that have been registered. Of course one side effect could be that when someone eventually buys one of these cars to actually drive it the car may be very close to needing first MOT.
My concern about these EVs is they've been sitting, what is the state of their batteries.
If you work in the public sector, like the NHS, you can get a massive discounted lease deal to help increase sales figures.
An electric Nissan Leaf with 20000 km on the clock 2019 year. It should be worth £2,306,803 now.
Surely it can't be good for the battery basically sitting a year or 2 with that low mileage.
Even worse is the effect it has on the wheel bearings. If the wheels are not periodically rotated, with all of that weight on a point force load over time the bearings would suffer brinelling, making them brittle and prone to early failure.
what if they been clocked thats even worse
It's dealerships getting their quota of ev sales at the end of the year so they can sell the cars people really want to buy. It's actually cheaper to sell EVs at a big loss than get hit with multiple government sanctions for selling ice cars people are buying before the mandated ev sales have been met.
The times that the government has mandated something on the British people and they have accepted? I could count them perhaps on on hand, the majority being during war time.
Last one was CFL bulbs iirc, that was a screw up as well.
Could you do a follow up with the auction price of these airfield EVs. So we can see the depreciation and reserve and CAP?
I watched this 11 minute video and such is the desperation of the EV sellers, i had six ads for them. I exit out, come back in, and up pops another! I suspect the advertisers along with TH-cam are carpet bombing every so called 'anti-EV' podcast with EV ads? Maybe to stop us watching. I however persevere 😂
Thank you
I hope Barrie is getting paid for it.
many of us saw it way back during the 'shortage' , the fix was in - it is so blatant as well, so blatant
Leave us alone to make our own minds up to buy an electric, petrol or diesel car. It should be up to us. It's not China yet
YOU WILL BUY AN EV GOT IT! .....a government spookperson stated today!!.....
they will give them away soon and i still wouldnt want one
Why the 2 owners at 9 miles?
Is someone buying it then handing it back after 4 miles then someone else for the 5?
Does it do the batteries any good to be sat on the airfield for months on end???
what we need to know is how much they sold for, half price or less for a barely used car
Enjoying the EV sound effects Barrie 👍
Battery cars are a bad idea. They are disposable items and are temporary mode of transport.
Manufacturer develops a small battery POS electric with build cost of say 5k. Register it and drive it to landfill. Save 15k fine on selling a Mustang. Add 5k to the sticker price of the Mustang to cover the extra cost ( be honest - we’d pay it to avoid the wheeled-battery).
everyone wins -except the planet but what EV shill actually cares about that….
Best decision of my life was buying an EV . 95 percent if us who bought EVs would never go back to ICE. I couldn’t afford too!!
You only couldn't afford to go back to an ICE vehicle due to losing so much money on the depreciation and no resale value on your duracell powered plastic car..keep fooling yourself and I'll keep driving my ICE 4x4 with the heater or aircon on and not give a toss about the 450 mile range my car has.🤣🤣🤣
Battle technology is constantly being improved and being made more efficient so all EV's are going to depreciate as quickly as if they were pushed of a cliff, which incidentally is where they should live their short lives
I can see this guy getting a visit from PLOD, being questioned for spreading "misinformation". under the online safety act. Yes I know he's speaking the TRUTH, but we now live in a police state and telling the truth is the most dangerous thing to do.
Pre registered unsellable landmarks . Just like Rover 20 years ago .
Great video Barrie
3 miles in 18months is 10 yards a Day 😂 must have run out of charge and is being pushed 😅
Even the Flintstones did more yards than that
5yrds to the forecourt and 5yrds back into the showroom
Built by the same company that built the Mars rover
Oh dear, what a mess.
Tell me about it
Clearly the young lads are not nicking EVs for joyriding! LOL!
Have these EVs been parked up in a field?
They certainly won’t have been stored in the warm and dry. Most probably on a deserted runway somewhere.
How much does KOOL-AID cost?
So is there any plausible reason how a vehicle can have multiple owners yet covered no more than delivery mileage ?
To falsify new and used sales figures
Dealers will pre register new cars to meet their bonus targets. The bonus payment from manufacturers is worth far more than the depreciation on the car.
These will be going to auction as, even with a reduced price, the cars never left the showroom floor. Not sure about the multiple ownerships unless they were moved between dealers in a group of dealerships.
With manufacturers facing huge financial penalties for not selling cars that no one wants they will have to get far more inventive in their methods to cloud sales figures.
At this rate, there'll be car sized home battery storage systems selling for less than regular home systems that are a 5th of the capacity...
Who wants an EV. Can’t drive from Brighton to Aberdeen without 2 stops of 2 hours each
I wouldn't be caught dead in a battery car that's what they are Battery cars
try one :)
Ok Noddy
They get fined if the % EV sold ie registered isn't high enough.
It's about 15K fine, so cheaper to take a loss, a tax write down and no doubt other inducement from the manufacturers to make the numbers fit the policy.
A really cynical move would be to import a really cheap ev, that's absolutly rubbish designed to go direct to the crusher to make the numbers work.
Make it 100% recyclable by just unbolting the parts and putting them on another chassis to reimport as "new".
My uncle brought a ev he had it 2 years and had sold it to go back to ic car ,the reason being lack of range lack of charging points,he wants to do some serious touring but doesn’t trust the charging network,
It's ok. All the batteries will end up in landfill. Out of sight, out of mind. So what's the problem ? Hahaha.
Next to all the blades from the wind turbines.
40 million registered vehicles in the UK. Average EV uses about 5MWh annually. How many wind turbines and solar panels (intermittent, unreliable, must be backed up with firm power ready to go when wind stops or sun. fails, will it take to power all these EV's?
Like we had this week and around November 5th . Wind was only 5% of demand and solar was nothing with the fog.
5MWh annually, be real, average car use 7400 miles 3.5mpkWh is 2MWh per car not 5! I've ran the maths, it would take 8.2GWh of capacity to power the full 34m UK car fleet. Average use this year is 30.1GW hours, and there over 74GW of installed capacity. Then discount all the never EVers, and the significant amount of power saved refining oil, delivering, and powering the petrol/diesel station network.
so, what prices did these go for? - I was interested in a Zoe GTr135 six months back generally selling @ £6200 - same car now is over £8000........ I would jump at an in warranty Zoe or similar if, as u say prices have plummeted in recent months, £6.2k minus a 'plummet' would be what, £4k - I would run full steam toward such a deal, if only 18mhs left on the 5 yr warranty - ie 3 times as old as the ones u discuss - I would be happy at up to 50,000 mls too, not 4 miles - any offers?
surely its cheaper to pay the £15k fine per car and make what people want, ive seen bigger discounts on new evs than £15k
Are they cheap enough yet to break and sell the tyres/parts on eBay?
Hopefully an entrepreneur will develop a good business converting new but scrapped EV's to ICE and make a fortune.
We will all be living in them, the way this government is going
Clocking them prior to first MOT? If they don't service it and just run it into the ground which you could probably get away with more on an EV then there isnt really any "record" of it having any higher mileage that a new owner could check is there? Visually if you know what you're looking at you'd be able to tell, wear lip on brake discs, tyres with wear, etc cos at 1 mile you'd still see the Sprue's from the moulding process when the tyres were made.
Hiya Barrie,no answers regarding the cause of the current glut of ev's. Could be why the German manufacturing plant closed? Guess it must be because they are a hazardous, non practical folly i suppose.
Total lies from gov down with everything to do with EV ! Ill keep my 4L V8 and my Diesel Jags thanks.
Ev's are an unworkable answer to a problem that doesn't exist
I am still driving my audi s4, 213,000 miles later its still going fine....has lpg conversion as well so no ulez, old cars are great just look after them
Each person has their own ideas and visions, I have not had any problems with my EV, I do like the remote heating and AC that i can put on or off, nice for the dog. If I was likely to do more miles than I do, or longer journeys I probably would not have bought an EV, the same as not buying a "super mini" because the dog and the parents cannot fit in one. Keep that grin on your face when the next oil shortage arrives.
China has thousands in fields rotting.