Skrolk and his mages were so durable because 1, high MD for wizards 2, small target with low mass 3, they were attacked by the chicken and the centigors, who probably knocked them around a fair bit. I'd also like to note that Outerregion lost a lot of valuable time trying to kill those two Eshin Sorcerers, it was a bit over 3000 gold fighting 1200. The distraction rats were very successful!
So i made a big mistake as I had around 40 winds at the end of the game. I am not super familiar with spell spamming, and i should have blue fired skrolk But the double eshin casters caught me off guard, and distracted me. And skrolk not dying at the end was also unfortunate I did learn a lot
At 8:57 it looks like momentum has shifted strongly in Tzeentch favor. He came back in value from like 1500 behind to over 1000 ahead and is pressuring all 3 objectives well. Let's see if I'm right.
At the point you asked, I really thought the Skaven were going to lose because they were being out-valued so hard on two of the points and the battlefield overall. If the Centigors charged into the wolf rats on the last point he might've been able to buckle them off sooner, but it was a great and close game.
I must admit, I was skeptical of the plague monks at first but they performed much better than anticipated! And yeah to be fair I also thought Skave had this even before you asked. Wild game!!! 😄
I feel like there are times where shielding/healing is overestimated. Turin or indypride say something like "with healing the scores are probs even" but in reality even if the unit received healing they just lost like 80% of their models in one big attack so it pm amounts to nothing. Same with shields, if the unit is stuck in prolonged combat it probably only had its initial barrier before getting wiped out. I will say for armies with SEU's the statement is probs true.
Shaven used to be good, unfortunately the new ability the Shorn faction got in the 5.69 patch - 5 O'Clock Shadow Warp - is really busted, so there's basically no reason to go Shaven anymore. Classic CA.
Bruh unbreakable tzeench centagaurs?Yeah no thank you man 😓 They almost have as much unbreakable leadership as the dwarfs and skaven almost losted the games because of thoes
At the time of the question: I think that the Skaven are going to win, because they're playing the objective and are able to keep their opponents from playing the objective. Post game: That's what I thought. Tying Tzeentch up so far from the objectives and for as long as they did, it didn't matter that the Skaven's units had poor value trading, because they traded in the most valuable commodity in Domination, time owning the objective. Instead of flying the chicken off to the other side of the map while letting the cav deal with the sorcerers, Outerregion tried to swarm those two. Frankly that duo was a great distraction Carnifex for this match, and Outerregion took the bait. No blame on him though, that was such a left field sort of play that it's really only post match that we can make these calls. Who expects SEM snipers to come from your own vanguard zone, and for the cheap, single spell wizards to last as long as they did?
Damn that rat is a cool guy
Skrolk and his mages were so durable because 1, high MD for wizards 2, small target with low mass 3, they were attacked by the chicken and the centigors, who probably knocked them around a fair bit.
I'd also like to note that Outerregion lost a lot of valuable time trying to kill those two Eshin Sorcerers, it was a bit over 3000 gold fighting 1200. The distraction rats were very successful!
So i made a big mistake as I had around 40 winds at the end of the game. I am not super familiar with spell spamming, and i should have blue fired skrolk
But the double eshin casters caught me off guard, and distracted me. And skrolk not dying at the end was also unfortunate
I did learn a lot
I don't blame ya man those double Eshin casters literally caught anyone else here unawares as well lmao
You have to admit. That's pretty lore friendly. Clan Eshin FTW >:3
Good game dude! They look so funny scheming in the woods in the begining too. Schemes paid off!
It felt like every unit in the Skaven army performed terribly and they still pulled it off. Awesome replay
Yeah was weird!
That is lore accurate skaven 🤣 🤣 🤣
Yes, but the objectives pulled it out of the fire.
“Strokin it furiously” got a good chuckle outta me
It's really silly that you can just unsummon your 1hp lord and don't receive a lord routed penalty.
Even sillier that you can bring them back once killed.
Never thought I'd root for a Skaven.
What about for a COOLguy?
Aye, I could do that
At 8:57 it looks like momentum has shifted strongly in Tzeentch favor. He came back in value from like 1500 behind to over 1000 ahead and is pressuring all 3 objectives well.
Let's see if I'm right.
I thought the same, but then the three rat units popped out of the trees on objective 1 like 10 seconds later and I knew skaven won.
10:12 i believe in the rats!!
The moment I saw those Eshin sorcerers in the back and then the gutter runner ambush I knew Skaven would win. COOLguy502 was really clever this game
I did not think the Skaven had a shot, what a nailbiter!
8:57 i think the rats got it
edit: never in doubt baby
Such a Skaven scheme, pulling Tzeentch forces off the objectives for so long
Yes-yes!
What a game, well done COOLguy
At the point you asked, I really thought the Skaven were going to lose because they were being out-valued so hard on two of the points and the battlefield overall. If the Centigors charged into the wolf rats on the last point he might've been able to buckle them off sooner, but it was a great and close game.
10:18 hell yeah they're gonna win
48 years later and I'm still clicking on the odd Turin video hoping it will be a Land Battle
Hey Turin, could you play some more Coast or Slaanesh soon? You're so entertaining on these lower-tier armies
Sure!
Great game! So Skaven - sneaky tricks yes yes! 😅
Skaven have no chance fr fr on Tzeentch
Aww shucks
I must admit, I was skeptical of the plague monks at first but they performed much better than anticipated! And yeah to be fair I also thought Skave had this even before you asked. Wild game!!! 😄
Love to see skaven yes-yes
Acid rain is probably pretty good on one of the sorcerers if you arent overcasting.
10:15 nope
Tzeench
The rats. My heroes. What a win!
skaven are def toast. so much value tied into damaging the chicken lord and hes still alive.
I for one welcome our new Ratmen overlords.
I feel like there are times where shielding/healing is overestimated. Turin or indypride say something like "with healing the scores are probs even" but in reality even if the unit received healing they just lost like 80% of their models in one big attack so it pm amounts to nothing. Same with shields, if the unit is stuck in prolonged combat it probably only had its initial barrier before getting wiped out. I will say for armies with SEU's the statement is probs true.
10:11 Let the rats chitter
at 10:11 seconds I am sure that Tzeentch is going to win.
How do Gatling rats perform against horsemen?
8:57 the natty buboe play probably cost skaven the game at that point if you ask me
A rare instance where I root for the damnable rats.
Not aware of the current meta, are shaven any good anymore?
Shaven used to be good, unfortunately the new ability the Shorn faction got in the 5.69 patch - 5 O'Clock Shadow Warp - is really busted, so there's basically no reason to go Shaven anymore. Classic CA.
They’ve sucked all throughout warhammer 3, so sad
at 9:51 just wow. Centigors: 15 models, 800 HP, but somehow ABOVE FORTY LEADERSHIP. Come on, bro..
Sigmar protects! Slay the Slaanesh bots!
I laughed, I cried, for once I think I have sympathy for the rat. I'm glad they won. The bastards.
Glorious!
For the Vermintide!
how did that old world skaven player do? ive been wanting to get a vermintide for table top
He did well, went 2-1, however, it wasn't the most competitive event!
8:57 I thought it was skaven
Bruh unbreakable tzeench centagaurs?Yeah no thank you man 😓
They almost have as much unbreakable leadership as the dwarfs and skaven almost losted the games because of thoes
8:57 Rats too far ahead. Just swarm objectives with numbers and should be fine with 1, if they get 2 all over.
Yes yes skaven will rise again
Playing the guessing game: yeah I think the skaven win
Little Eshin casters are a pain to kill even if the route they just keep getting tossed without taking damage lol.
No. Jezails were the throw.
No way.
Skaven got it
Rats FTW
Tbh if the momentum had shifted a minute or so earlier Tzeentch probably would've taken it but really great match, great play from cool guy.
Skaven win?
How did we win?
We lost.
They should let you shoot units in cc I'm ToW like this.
Always bet on Rat
Love me some rats
It's bs that the chicken lived
sweaty loses to funny. not surprised :]
rats rats rats!
GG 3/10 not enough warpstone
I disagree, skrolk always felt durable beyond all reason
Under empire once again proved who is best-best... ᘛ⁐̤ᕐᐷ
At 8 minutes, I do not think they will win, poor Cool Guy
edit: NEVERMIND HE DID IT LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO
The Eshin casters' unexpected resilience might have decided this one. They took valuable time away from the Helms Deep point.
And that's why I love domination. Coolguy understanding what it means to be skaven!
Holy crap the slaanesh bots in the comments.
Great game from the most cool-coolest of guys
At the time of the question: I think that the Skaven are going to win, because they're playing the objective and are able to keep their opponents from playing the objective.
Post game: That's what I thought. Tying Tzeentch up so far from the objectives and for as long as they did, it didn't matter that the Skaven's units had poor value trading, because they traded in the most valuable commodity in Domination, time owning the objective. Instead of flying the chicken off to the other side of the map while letting the cav deal with the sorcerers, Outerregion tried to swarm those two. Frankly that duo was a great distraction Carnifex for this match, and Outerregion took the bait.
No blame on him though, that was such a left field sort of play that it's really only post match that we can make these calls. Who expects SEM snipers to come from your own vanguard zone, and for the cheap, single spell wizards to last as long as they did?
If the person named COOLguy doesn't win I'm rioting.
He is infact a COOLguy
Skaven will probably be able to squeak out a win. (:
Edit: Knew it!
Where's my replay from this Match up!! :DD
Resend it to me!
The people demand a wood elf replay
If lord Skrolk had died like 10 seconds earlier I think all those Skaven would have broken and that last point would have flipped for Tzeentch win.
Skaven for the win yes-yes
I think he brought the AP wolf rats because they do magic damage unlike the poison variant if i remember correctly.
Damn I love This community
Hi Turin, i found your channel a while ago and i'm realy enjoying your videos. Thank you very much for your work.
Cool build from a cool player.
Turin with the hot tail-shaking action: th-cam.com/video/C_ijc7A5oAc/w-d-xo.html
Tzeentch, chaos god of treachery, master of a thousand schemes... undone by 2 sneaky rats hiding in a tree.
🚂👀👋💯
I LOVE RATS
The Skaven have this. Skrolk is too gigachad'y in this one to lose it, even w the jezzails gettin' centaur'd over
Holy cow that was closer than expected. Eshin bacsktabbing prevails, good-great win, yes-yeeees!
10:12 skaven will lose
impressive game really! The chicken should have died though, that must have felt really bad.
GGWP damn impressive skaven ;P :D