My grandpa passed this pistol down to me, and he passed away a few years ago, so I just took it to the range last week. This video helped a ton for cleaning. Thank you.
Your explination of the take down of this firearm is very good. It is spoken in easy to understand terminology with a great "step by step" proceedure. Even though there are many people that hate this gun, there are many of them out there, therefore, there are people that need to know how to take them apart and put them back together. Keep up the videos for other weapons.
This is a truly excellen video. Thanks. I own a 25 raven and it's a great and fun weapon to shoot. Never had a problem with it but I have never taken it apart as far you have shown me. I will now. Thanks. Keep up the good informative videos.
I'm always amazed that whenever I see these and other "Saturday Night Special" firearms, they're almost always in excellent condition. It's like the Zamak and the finish are significantly more rust resistant and corrosion resistant than the steels that most guns are made of. I've even seen many stainless guns rust when sitting in a safe for too long without being oiled... but these guns are some of the most neglected guns to ever exist, yet they still somehow manage to never rust or corrode. Have seen a few that had damaged finishes from abuse... but other than that, they're almost always in really good condition.
Yes my friend. I agree the .25 raven's are good guns. Some call them junk, only cause they repeat what others say. I have never had a problem with mine and they are fun to shoot. Of course for home protection I have bigger guns and calibers but the damage a .25 does is pretty significant. Thanks for the videos. Now I feel better to take mine apart to the level you did.
good video, i have one myself & i had been looking around for a full teardown video most people do quick strips but i really wanted to clean mine since it stays in my pocket 24/7. i don't care what anyone says about the ravens i love mine. the thing about the inaccuracy is down to the shooter, it's got fixed sights so you have to hold off target you can't just line the sights & use it as a sniper rifle. with my experience shooting the hell out of mine i can easily hit targets out to 25 yards.
You sir, deserve that DVD player! And a great big Jonnybanger thanks for helping me get to know my 1911. My Springfield GI is now the cleanest it's ever been! Too bad the Colt series 80 1991 has the darn firing pin lock mechanism on it. Still don't trust myself enough to do a complete take down on that. Keep on posting!
@Ghostginthree I am happy to hear you enjoyed the video. To me, they are great little firearms. A lot of people call them junk, lol, I will keep my junk, it has never let me down. Thanks.
thank you for the video it was very helpfully. i also made the mistake you said not to make. My assemble on the back of spring went flying across the room and i had to intercept my dog from eating it.
@darkmatter265 You are not kidding, I could not believe it when I opened it. I can't tell you how many wonderful people there are in the gun community on YT. I am very thankful and I wish I was in a position to give back. I will get back on my feet and won't forget the generosity. Thanks.
Mine has been having failure to eject after every round, but loads the next round, kind of doubles up. I appreciate your video which I used to disassemble and clean, but I couldn't find a problem (not knowledgeable enough maybe)... FTE continues.
You weren't not rambling at the begining of the video you are speaking the truth! I just bought a Raven .25 from a local gun & pawn shop with out the clip/mag i paid about $60.00 + background & taxes I orderd a magazine from Cheaper than dirt but I noticed the extractor is missing Now i havn't fired it yet but what perpus does the extractor serve? is it to spit out the empty cartrige out? Please let me know
great video. I have been working on my raven 25 auto for a couple days now and i am stuck. Maybe you can help. inside the magwell on the right side (it is actually in the middle of the back strap but easier to see from the right side with grips removed) there is a spring that is coiled and then bends at 90ish degrees. this spring is blocking the magazine from being inserted and i can not find out where it goes?
@GOODGUY1795 I really appreciate the kind words, I am very happy that this video helped you. I thank you for letting me know, it keeps me wanting to make more. Thanks again.
There’s a spring at the top of the clip release sticking out by the trigger bar that’s stopping the the clip from going in. Not sure how it supposed to be please help
@1979aerocaprice The blowback system just works, it is a simple design and well proven. I agree completely with you. The way I see it, if it is stamped as a mp-25, then it is an mp-25. lol. I have worked on some of the older models for people and there are not many differences except the safety as far as I can tell. I will check out the forum you are speaking about in the comment above. I thank you for commenting, Its my favorite part of making videos. Thanks. brother. : )
The one I shot had a different safety slide it went horizontal instead of vertical would that mean it was a different year or were there more than 2 models of the Raven Arms .25?
@fredhart Thanks Fred. It is considered a cheapo pistol but I actually think they are pretty well made for what they are. A very easy design. I paid $60.00 for it brand new about 24 years ago. Thanks Fred.
if you do not mind how does the raven mp-25 shoot does it shoot pretty good or not and i know a 25.cal is not a long distance gun but how many yards do they shoot???
Thanks for your video. Just picked one of these up. Excellent little gun my only issue is the magazine. The spring has gotten weak and it doesnt want to feed. Does the mag come apart or do I just need to order a new one?
I had that same Pistol that you have.... that's not a MP-25 the first 1970's MP-25's had a slider safety those were the perfect 25 auto all you do is clean it every 75 rounds and it works without a jam. ( I have one of those now it's Chrome with Rosewood grips in mint and flawless condition the one you own is a later model of the Phoenix Arms Raven 25 it's a nice pocket gun. What people fail to realize is that less then 20% of these guns are availabe anymore because they were used in crimes.
@cromeister777 I don't believe they make them anymore but I know there are some out there exactly like them. They were considered cheapo's but, it has always been reliable for me. Thanks.
@ChromeFreak123 Hey thanks alot man. Your video and information helped me figure out the problem with my Raven. This is the 1st time it malfunctioned after I cleaned it and it would not shoot. It was the grips like you said, they were not equally lined up, which was weird. I need to buy new grips for it anyways. I appreicate your info. Can you recommend any place that sells grips for this raven, specifically white/ivory pearl colored grips? Thanks again.
i stripped my moms 25 raven down and have done something wrong....firing pin not working and cant remove slide now for some reason....any suggestions on how to fix my problem?
That part is just for that, striking the round and setting it off. The other end is used as part of the way the gun is held together and functions. Go to Numrich Gun Parts and order a new firing pin. You can also google it and you get companies that carry it. Thanks. : )
@ristin59 Thank you Ristin, you are an awesome human being. I thought I would tell you that. I consider you a good friend and your offer to me was very special and I will never forget it. God Bless.
hi... nice video... I was hoping you would show how to replace the spring in the trigger that holds tension on the disconnector .... seems that spring lost its tension and needs to be replaced.... thanks
You know I've had problems with my .25 raven for the 1st time in about 15 years. It shot excellent as usual and afterwards I was cleaning it and put it back together as usual and now when i pull the slide back to cock the gun and it will not cock. I took it apart and can't figure out why it does not cock back. I pull the trigger and nothing. Yet when i take it apart again, you can feel the tension and as I take the slide off, it clicks. Any ideas on what's wrong with my raven?
i took my raven apart and there is a spring were the clip slides into and its blocking the clip from going in and i don.t see it on your video it's inside the fraim please help me this is all i have and i dont have money to buy another pistol
@rollmeoh It is stamped right on it MP-25. It is one. lol. Anyways, ya a lot were used in crimes because they were affordable firearms but a lot also saved a lot of people that did not have the money to buy a better firearm. That is tha reason I bought it, I was young and needed something and did not have a lot of money, so this little pistol protected me for awhile until I could buy something better. I have a video that goes over the entire history of the companies that made these firearms.
@cromeister777 They were called Saturday night specials as were many low priced firearms. I actually did a video called "Pocket Pistols", I speak about this pistol and some other small affordable pistols. Take a look at the video, you might enjoy it, at least I hope you will. lol. Thank you for the input, I wish guys like you were able to purchase the same firearms we can and enjoy the same freedoms. God created us to be free people and it is a shame when governments control who can own what.
@lowboy03 Yes it is and you must have an extractor for the gun to function properly. You can find parts at Numrich Gun Parts or you can bring or ship the gun to me or any gunsmith to be repaired unless you can do it yourself. Let me know if you need any help. Thanks. : )
wow, i typed in "how to breakdown weird little pistol" not knowing the name or anything of the gun i was trying to find, just what it looks like, and what do ya know? the first video that pops up is the one i'm looking for xD thanks bud
Thanks for the video! I just picked up one of these, but my model has a slide safety. The slide isn't working properly, so I look forward to take it apart. Question, I also picked up a Firearms International Model VB. Have you ever taken apart one of these? It won't fire and needs some work. I think the MP-25 won't fire either, so it might need parts too. Anyway, thanks for showing a novice how to to this properly.
ChromeFreak123, thanks for the video but I have a question: There is a spring that looks like it holds the European style mag release in but it doesn't and I don't know what it does. I would send a picture but I don't know how. Any ideas as to what it does? The spring isn't in any of your videos including complete disassembly or assembly. Let me know please.
adamborders764 I don't think it's wise to open the top ears just to clean the inside of the mag, check the spring & follower but that's about all I can come up with...then reset (bend) the ears.
My grandpa passed this pistol down to me, and he passed away a few years ago, so I just took it to the range last week. This video helped a ton for cleaning. Thank you.
Your explination of the take down of this firearm is very good. It is spoken in easy to understand terminology with a great "step by step" proceedure. Even though there are many people that hate this gun, there are many of them out there, therefore, there are people that need to know how to take them apart and put them back together. Keep up the videos for other weapons.
This is a truly excellen video. Thanks. I own a 25 raven and it's a great and fun weapon to shoot. Never had a problem with it but I have never taken it apart as far you have shown me. I will now. Thanks. Keep up the good informative videos.
Thanks for the video. I just bought my Raven and didn't know how to disassemble it to give it a deep clean. Keep up the good work!
thats what i call a friend!!! he must be a good man
thats whats up man well you are a good man for maken videos to help people so everyone deserves good things when they do good things
I'm always amazed that whenever I see these and other "Saturday Night Special" firearms, they're almost always in excellent condition. It's like the Zamak and the finish are significantly more rust resistant and corrosion resistant than the steels that most guns are made of. I've even seen many stainless guns rust when sitting in a safe for too long without being oiled... but these guns are some of the most neglected guns to ever exist, yet they still somehow manage to never rust or corrode. Have seen a few that had damaged finishes from abuse... but other than that, they're almost always in really good condition.
Yes my friend. I agree the .25 raven's are good guns. Some call them junk, only cause they repeat what others say. I have never had a problem with mine and they are fun to shoot. Of course for home protection I have bigger guns and calibers but the damage a .25 does is pretty significant. Thanks for the videos. Now I feel better to take mine apart to the level you did.
Neat pistol, best of luck for your health and job. Very good very!
I think they are great little guns for the money. I have never really had any problems with mine. Thanks. : )
good video, i have one myself & i had been looking around for a full teardown video most people do quick strips but i really wanted to clean mine since it stays in my pocket 24/7. i don't care what anyone says about the ravens i love mine. the thing about the inaccuracy is down to the shooter, it's got fixed sights so you have to hold off target you can't just line the sights & use it as a sniper rifle. with my experience shooting the hell out of mine i can easily hit targets out to 25 yards.
You sir, deserve that DVD player! And a great big Jonnybanger thanks for helping me get to know my 1911. My Springfield GI is now the cleanest it's ever been! Too bad the Colt series 80 1991 has the darn firing pin lock mechanism on it. Still don't trust myself enough to do a complete take down on that. Keep on posting!
@Ghostginthree I am happy to hear you enjoyed the video. To me, they are great little firearms. A lot of people call them junk, lol, I will keep my junk, it has never let me down. Thanks.
Good things happen to good people.
Great video man! I love the history on these guns. One is in my near future!
Excellent video!
thanks for the vid. just got this exact same gun, and wasnt sure how to take it apart.
great video its was apart clean and back together in no time thanks alot!
I agree with you. I am happy it helped you and thanks for watching. : )
Great video, My wife loves her Raven.
This is a really good video, I have one of these. Thanks for making it. Now, I gotta go watch some more of your vids !
12 years later that is my first legal purchased pistol as well
thank you for the video it was very helpfully. i also made the mistake you said not to make. My assemble on the back of spring went flying across the room and i had to intercept my dog from eating it.
@darkmatter265 You are not kidding, I could not believe it when I opened it. I can't tell you how many wonderful people there are in the gun community on YT. I am very thankful and I wish I was in a position to give back. I will get back on my feet and won't forget the generosity. Thanks.
Mine has been having failure to eject after every round, but loads the next round, kind of doubles up. I appreciate your video which I used to disassemble and clean, but I couldn't find a problem (not knowledgeable enough maybe)... FTE continues.
You weren't not rambling at the begining of the video you are speaking the truth!
I just bought a Raven .25 from a local gun & pawn shop with out the clip/mag i paid about $60.00 + background & taxes I orderd a magazine from Cheaper than dirt but I noticed the extractor is missing Now i havn't fired it yet but what perpus does the extractor serve? is it to spit out the empty cartrige out? Please let me know
Thanks for the video
@theARMORYchannel Thank you Pete, you are one of the greatest on yt. I look up to you and have a lot of respect for you Pete.
Numrich is a good start. they should have any part you need. If not, just Google Raven .25 parts and you will get a bunch of sites. Thanks. : )
I am having pc issues so I have not been on in a couple of days. i hope it went well and thanks.
great video. I have been working on my raven 25 auto for a couple days now and i am stuck. Maybe you can help. inside the magwell on the right side (it is actually in the middle of the back strap but easier to see from the right side with grips removed) there is a spring that is coiled and then bends at 90ish degrees. this spring is blocking the magazine from being inserted and i can not find out where it goes?
you are welcome thanks for everythang you do just trust in god and good thing will happen
@GOODGUY1795 I really appreciate the kind words, I am very happy that this video helped you. I thank you for letting me know, it keeps me wanting to make more. Thanks again.
There’s a spring at the top of the clip release sticking out by the trigger bar that’s stopping the the clip from going in. Not sure how it supposed to be please help
@1979aerocaprice The blowback system just works, it is a simple design and well proven. I agree completely with you. The way I see it, if it is stamped as a mp-25, then it is an mp-25. lol. I have worked on some of the older models for people and there are not many differences except the safety as far as I can tell. I will check out the forum you are speaking about in the comment above. I thank you for commenting, Its my favorite part of making videos. Thanks. brother. : )
The one I shot had a different safety slide it went horizontal instead of vertical would that mean it was a different year or were there more than 2 models of the Raven Arms .25?
@ChromeFreak123 Your welcome, just doing whats right, God bless...
-- Praying the Lord provides the perfect job sir!
But how do you take of the barrel to install a new one?
@fredhart Thanks Fred. It is considered a cheapo pistol but I actually think they are pretty well made for what they are. A very easy design. I paid $60.00 for it brand new about 24 years ago. Thanks Fred.
if you do not mind how does the raven mp-25 shoot does it shoot pretty good or not and i know a 25.cal is not a long distance gun but how many yards do they shoot???
Thanks for your video. Just picked one of these up. Excellent little gun my only issue is the magazine. The spring has gotten weak and it doesnt want to feed. Does the mag come apart or do I just need to order a new one?
Great man!
@FloridaRaider I agree, I have never had much trouble from this gun. Thanks. : )
Happy it helped, Thanks. : )
I had that same Pistol that you have.... that's not a MP-25 the first 1970's MP-25's had a slider safety those were the perfect 25 auto all you do is clean it every 75 rounds and it works without a jam. ( I have one of those now it's Chrome with Rosewood grips in mint and flawless condition the one you own is a later model of the Phoenix Arms Raven 25 it's a nice pocket gun. What people fail to realize is that less then 20% of these guns are availabe anymore because they were used in crimes.
there alot of great people on u tube Mike. great video brother
Cool man.thanks for the video
@cromeister777 I don't believe they make them anymore but I know there are some out there exactly like them. They were considered cheapo's but, it has always been reliable for me. Thanks.
I am happy it helped you. Thanks for watching. : )
Very good man. Thank You. : )
@ChromeFreak123 Hey thanks alot man. Your video and information helped me figure out the problem with my Raven. This is the 1st time it malfunctioned after I cleaned it and it would not shoot. It was the grips like you said, they were not equally lined up, which was weird. I need to buy new grips for it anyways. I appreicate your info. Can you recommend any place that sells grips for this raven, specifically white/ivory pearl colored grips? Thanks again.
Thank you, it is appreciated. : )
@ChainGang1B I thank you more than you can know for your very kind words. It means a lot to me. Thanks again my friend. : )
how do you hook up the disconnect spring back up on a phoenix model raven 25 cal.
Hey what do I do when apparently the previous owner has somehow lost the firing pin
@The45Reason It is a cheapo but always has been reliable for me. Thanks dan.
i stripped my moms 25 raven down and have done something wrong....firing pin not working and cant remove slide now for some reason....any suggestions on how to fix my problem?
Take care of it and they run pretty good. Thanks for watching. ; )
You are welcome, if I can help you further in any way, let me know. : )
@Mr45Bullitt I will check it out Bill. I appreciate your friendship Bill.
That part is just for that, striking the round and setting it off. The other end is used as part of the way the gun is held together and functions. Go to Numrich Gun Parts and order a new firing pin. You can also google it and you get companies that carry it. Thanks. : )
@ristin59 Thank you Ristin, you are an awesome human being. I thought I would tell you that. I consider you a good friend and your offer to me was very special and I will never forget it. God Bless.
love this gun aswell, have mine sitting next to me
hi... nice video... I was hoping you would show how to replace the spring in the trigger that holds tension on the disconnector .... seems that spring lost its tension and needs to be replaced.... thanks
You know I've had problems with my .25 raven for the 1st time in about 15 years. It shot excellent as usual and afterwards I was cleaning it and put it back together as usual and now when i pull the slide back to cock the gun and it will not cock. I took it apart and can't figure out why it does not cock back. I pull the trigger and nothing. Yet when i take it apart again, you can feel the tension and as I take the slide off, it clicks. Any ideas on what's wrong with my raven?
Thank You. : )
i took my raven apart and there is a spring were the clip slides into and its blocking the clip from going in and i don.t see it on your video it's inside the fraim please help me this is all i have and i dont have money to buy another pistol
Where can I get a clip for this?
I actually got it figured out. I just took the spring out lol
Yes, there were some changes made over the years but they are the same gun. Thanks.
do you know if the slide is interchangeable with a Lorcin 25? they appear to be identical, except one ejects from the top and the other from the side.
@zero45152 No it will not. The only firearm that should not be dry fired is a rim fire, any center fire firearm is fine to dry fire. Thanks.
@lowboy03 You are welcome, tahank you for letting me know. : )
Thanks, it did!!
@Ausbis145josh Thanks little brother.
I would try Numrich Gun Parts and if they do not have it, Google Raven Magazines and I am sure some will come up. Thanks. : )
They are all thieves. Thank you brother.
@rollmeoh It is stamped right on it MP-25. It is one. lol. Anyways, ya a lot were used in crimes because they were affordable firearms but a lot also saved a lot of people that did not have the money to buy a better firearm. That is tha reason I bought it, I was young and needed something and did not have a lot of money, so this little pistol protected me for awhile until I could buy something better. I have a video that goes over the entire history of the companies that made these firearms.
Thank you, I have not messed with a VB. If you need any help, let me know. Thanks. : )
i striped my gun down and put it back togethere wrong and now i cant strip it back down what do i doo! please help!
@cromeister777 They were called Saturday night specials as were many low priced firearms. I actually did a video called "Pocket Pistols", I speak about this pistol and some other small affordable pistols. Take a look at the video, you might enjoy it, at least I hope you will. lol. Thank you for the input, I wish guys like you were able to purchase the same firearms we can and enjoy the same freedoms. God created us to be free people and it is a shame when governments control who can own what.
what's a dvd?
@lowboy03 Yes it is and you must have an extractor for the gun to function properly. You can find parts at Numrich Gun Parts or you can bring or ship the gun to me or any gunsmith to be repaired unless you can do it yourself. Let me know if you need any help. Thanks. : )
guayotambora I armed mine wrong I need help I put the spring first then the pin and now is doesn't want to disable help me please 1 hour ago
Thank you so much. : )
Will the gun still function correctly if you remove only the grips and leave them off?
No, the right grip actually hold the trigger bar and it will malfunction and y9u will probably lose a part or 2.
wow, i typed in "how to breakdown weird little pistol" not knowing the name or anything of the gun i was trying to find, just what it looks like, and what do ya know? the first video that pops up is the one i'm looking for xD thanks bud
Thanks for the video! I just picked up one of these, but my model has a slide safety. The slide isn't working properly, so I look forward to take it apart. Question, I also picked up a Firearms International Model VB. Have you ever taken apart one of these? It won't fire and needs some work. I think the MP-25 won't fire either, so it might need parts too. Anyway, thanks for showing a novice how to to this properly.
you're welcome ;)
@ChromeFreak123
Thanks I found the parts i needed on ebay & it fires great. Thanks for the info.
sir I have a Taurus pt-25 that the spring on the firing harmer is damage ...where cani get another one
where can I get parts from.
@xzmn61 I appreciate the kind words and I hope this video helped you out. Thanks again.
@FireArmsResQ With the cheesy fake ivory/pearl grips lol. I see great things in your future and a lot of bleeding Zombies. : )
ChromeFreak123, thanks for the video but I have a question: There is a spring that looks like it holds the European style mag release in but it doesn't and I don't know what it does. I would send a picture but I don't know how. Any ideas as to what it does? The spring isn't in any of your videos including complete disassembly or assembly. Let me know please.
Its the disconnector spring. Thanks.
Don Keysor
Don Keysor
Sweet. : )
You more than likely put the firing pin in backwards. You must strip it down and redo it. If you need more help, let me know.
New extractor spring and new recoil spring should fix things for you. Thanks bro... : )
@Mrcaffinebean Thank you so much.
How do you take the magazine apart
Kyle Gump
Yes, I would like to know that too. Can't find anything on them...not even a blog...nothing!
you cant
adamborders764
I don't think it's wise to open the top ears just to clean the inside of the mag, check the spring & follower but that's about all I can come up with...then reset (bend) the ears.
This is from memory, but push the follower down. tilt it back and pull it up through the ears. Unless I'm hallucinating again...