A teacher of mine at technical school was the inventor of the laser bore honing process at Audi. He told me, the piston of the race engine was that small and flat, it was hard to believe it was of a diesel engine. Would really like to know, what it looks like, but there is nowhere a picture to be found.
Sounds alot like the pistons we use in the US on some stroker race engines. You move the wrist pin up in relation to the top of the piston, this shortens the overall height of the piston but the real reason for it is to allow the use of a longer connecting rod for a better rod ratio. These are sometimes referred to as "long rod" engines.
6:26 he said (there is not a 500+ diesel motor in any passenger car) hmmm chech westen champlin's ford mustang that puts out 1000hp+ with a cummins swap yeah sure its a truck engine but its from a passenger car and it makes 1000hp+
Have a look for darkside developments, a diesel race car builder from over here in the uk. He has shown why the v12 tdi R8 was dropped. Using an example of the car and power unit.
So they can cheat again? The race version car was not a diesel. Yes it used mostly the same principles (autoignition ) but it wasn't powered by pump diesel. They used some fancy fuel mixture for those cars. So long story short you have another aspect of VW diesel gate in race engines or false advertising depending on how you want to look at it.
on the one hand, I am a TDI fanatic with the 1.9 ALH in my jetta, 50mpg highway is awesome. so a V12 tdi sounds amazing on the other hand the v12 has timing components against the firewall... so a timing job is an engine out job. I wanted one before this video, now I'm unsure from a practical standpoint. still a beast though
You guys know a 6.7 Powerstroke will make more HP and Torque than this engine with just a tune right? Literally no aftermarket hardware, just a tune, and it will still be reliable. Hell, you could take a 5.9 single cam, mechanically injected cummins and do injectors, pump mods, and a turbo and come out with a 650+hp engine for less than a quarter what one of these things is worth as a complete engine on the secondary market.
@@barneymiller7894 It's factory power. Yes v12tdi can to be custom tuned and it will gain at least 100hv/200nm what some tuning company says their website.
In a probably different way, this engine seems to rescue that Rudolf Diesel's famous "lost project", an engine light and powerful enough to be used in airplanes. Thank you and congratulations for this video!
Diamond DA42 Twin Star is the mass produced plane that I know of, which uses diesel engines. There might be more airplanes using diesel engines, but I wasn't going deep into this.
Packard made a 9-cylinder radial diesel for aircraft in the 1930's. The most successful aircraft diesel was the Junkers 205/207 opposed-piston. They were in airline service in the 1930's and had some applications in WW2.
i have one and love it to death. currently has 310.000 km´s. i use 10.8L/100km. you can´t find a car that has better space, towing capacity, size, power, acceleration and fuel consumption combined
@@faxxzc well i’ve driven the SQ7 as a learner’s car when getting my hauling license. I’m temped to buy one, but because of shitty European emission regulations I started to think twice. My neighbour had an old Q7 with 4.2 V8 diesel which was not as spaceous as the SQ7 i’ve driven. The SQ7 TDI much better than the Q7 V12 TDI in every single way. Sportier, torque output is almost identical Q7=1000 Nm vs. SQ7=900 Nm, on horsepower Q7= 500 HP vs SQ7= 435 HP. Despite the lower power output, the SQ7 is faster. The SQ7 got the more reliable and responsive ZF 8 speed gearbox instead of the less reliable ZF 6 speed gearbox. The SQ7 is faster than that road ship of yours because it’s a lot lighter, and it’s more modern. Plus it’s more fuel efficient. I bet you’d get even more power out of that V8 than that V12 because you’ve got more space under the hood of the SQ7 to do crazier mods than with that humongous V12 which weighs over 300 kg and doesn’t leave any room for bigger turbos etc. So you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. I’d bet even the SQ5 V6 TDI would be faster than your roadship in a 0-60 and even a 1/4 mile race. Old diesels are 💩
@@orhankucuksahin6297 i bought a sq7 engine and transmission. i want to put two high pressure pumps which go up to 2500 bar from the sq7 into the v12 which has old tech 2000 bar pumps. darkside made me 2 gtd2872 turbos which should go to 800 hp easy. from a technical standpoint i can tell you the sq7 engine is much more stressed due to the hot v turbo layout, it is very common for those to heat soak. also you cant do much on the exhaust because they have all that stupid euro 6 adblue stuff. the computers are regulating it so you cant throw it out for less restriction. if the v12 had the zf 8hp it would smoke the sq7. however the 6hp32 is much more reliable than the 8hp. i havent heard of a single gearbox failure yet, but you see dozens in the sq7 sq8 a8 touareg and the jeep trackhawks that run the same trans.
@@orhankucuksahin6297 plus the v8 is boring because they put it in so many cars. when you talk to people about the v8 they just yawn. however when you tell them you have a v12 diesel it´s a real conversation starter
Wow, the VAG has always been ahead of the game as far as automotive technology goes, but we ALL know that this engine was so far ahead of the game and it was EXTREMELY well balanced with an awesome powerband and how often do you see a V12 diesel? I have to give it up to Audi/VW for this build. They really crushed it with the Q7 V12TDi.
Plus any new American diesel from a full size truck will make more horsepower and torque than this engine with just a tune. Literally no aftermarket hardware, just throw a tune on it and your already out performing the V12 TDI and probably still beating its reliability.
@@flynick hahaha no , the grip is fine tbh. it hugs the road like a tank and it absorbs shocks surprisingly well considering it's extreme heft and high centre of gravity
This engine was the TDI hero. I had a TDI 1.9 manual when I first started driving and I loved it. It is such a shame dieselgate happened because these were great engines to drive and got amazing fuel economy.
Still got a 1.9 TDI in a Fabia VRS MK1, these diesels get more MPG than a smaller petrol engine so it offsets the cost. Diesel still works out cheaper in the UK, which is nice.
@@xJackkHD My friend had remapped vrs fabia with 1.9 too but sadly it got stolen. Great fun car - this fabia and a5 with 3.0 tdi are my favourite diesel cars - anyone who says diesel is boring should drive one of those.
@@sqarefox3928 yeah people like taking them cos they're fun to drive and quite powerful even standard. 3.0tdi is a brilliant engine as well quite a lot of tuning potential with the right parts and maps
Audi has a penchant for stuffing the most engine in the tightest spaces. It's not uncommon for the entire engine needed to be removed to replace a timing chain and tensioners which are not accessible any other way. Even a front mounted serpentine belt often requires the entire front bumper assembly and wheel well liners to be removed as well as the radiator partially unbolted for tilting making it more of a professional procedure than weekend warrior affair. In other words, to put the most engineered high-power engines in Audi vehicles means a dis-connect to ease of maintenance which Audi doesn't apologize for.
Naturally you have too many fans to even read never mind remember each comment but I recently responded to an older video about the best Audi engines. I mentioned I had worked for Audi franchises for nearly 20 years, during which time I had driven all except one of those featured. It may well have been the V12 TDI - we either had one at another branch where the Chairman was based, or we were going to get one but then didn't for some reason, it's that long ago, and even at the time, was that far removed from my job in finance on a different premises, the details are hazy. It would, for sure, have been interesting to try it! Regarding the various comparisons, it seems rather a futile exercise as even then, any 12 cylinder was a real rarity - just a handful like Rolls Royce and Ferrari, but a diesel one? Although Cummins do design engines for automotive installation, I would tend to say in that case, suitable for flat-bed truck type vehicles only: they're really suppliers of engines to a more "industrial" sector - like long distance haulage, big mining dump trucks and agricultural machinery - while it does beat the V12Tdi on torque, that's mostly because as you said, Audi had to limit it artificially to avoid exploding the gearbox. Otherwise an easy 1100lb/ft was possible. Factor in its full fat 500hp, when Cummins only musters 420, one begins to see just how advanced it was - not forgetting the Cummins is a 6.7 so has most of a whole litre extra capacity - making the Audi effort from 2009 yet more impressive. The most significant difference though, is it has a measly 6 cylinders! It's hard therefore to see how even tentative comparisons can be made, and what the value is of any such attempts. The latest Audi 4.0 V8TDIs are still shy on power and torque - but not by much that's for sure! 435PS and 900Nm is just 13% and 10% less than the V12's 500/1000 outputs despite 33% less volume. It's still only a V8 though, and just so much less interesting and unique - despite those highly impressive numbers. It wasn't that long ago that the C5 gen RS6s were trumpeting about 108hp per litre and yet here is a DIESEL car matching that. Nevertheless, the V12TDI was, and remains, absolutely unique - and I think for that, it deserves to be allowed its solitary and unquestioned disdain of "lesser machines" in perpetuity 😏
If anything diesel and electric combined in a car will be the future of power, using it as a range extender and having a way to spool up the diesel engine for added power to launch with electric will make some very quick cars. Freight train pulling power but for the road!
could you talk about european truck engines? theres some really powerfull production engines used day to day by some people even a basic engine setup for a semi is pushing like 460/500hp and they do that for 9 hours a day every single day of the year, very long lasting as i have seen a lot of 1 million km trucks some getting to 2 or more
I remember when this engine was still in the testing stage and the problem at that point was that there was no transmission small and sturdy enough to withstand the torque developed by the engine. IIRC they stuffed one in an R8 as a prototype and had to put a Ford Transit van transmission in it for a fighting chance :)
The biggest advantage that the diesel has is the fact that diesel fuel has 17% more calories than petrol. The Audis made fewer fuel stops as it had better economy. It was still bloody fast but it’s economy was a massive factor. IMHO.
Audi must make a hypercar for the road with a V12 as a tribute to the R10 TDI, with a 932BHP hybrid V12 engine that runs on renewable diesel HVO, a rival for the LaFerrari, Valkyrie, AMG 1, Delage D12 and Czinger 21C. 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🏎️♻️ PD: If Volkswagen Group (controls Audi) went also for e fuels, biofuels and hydrogen (H2-ICE and fuel cells), they could bring V12 engines again, this time more efficient and running on renewable fuels 🏎️♻️, we need a balance, not go to the extreme. 🙏🏻🙌🏻
As a side note, the modern generation of all those engines (Cummins, Powerstroke, and Duramax) are all heavily under tuned from the factory. They will actually make more power and torque than the V12 TDI with just a tune, no aftermarket hard parts needed.
@@barneymiller7894 yeah definitely, they’re all overbuilt from factory and can pull off crazy numbers on the stock motor with just a tune but get detuned for the sake of reliability. My dad owns a tuned and deleted 6.7 Cummins and for a nearly 6000 lb truck it really rips
6:24 The fact that no diesel passenger cars have exceeded 500hp probably has something to do with the fact that it would be pointless. Fast diesels are great, yes, but at the end of the day a fast gasser will always perform better. So even a performance diesel is always going to need to focus on diesel advantages - fuel economy and pulling capability - over or at least in concert with raw performance. Past 500 horsepower, that's probably rather difficult to do no matter how you get there. The 4.0TDI and BMW's tri-turbo 3-liter are considerably slower than equivalent gas powertrains despite pushing 500hp, yet the difference in efficiency between them and their gas rivals is much narrower than with lower-performing diesels. I wager the American Big Three's truck diesels will eventually break the 500hp barrier, but that's going to be a side-effect of what the companies are actually after; torque.
The current L5P Duramax was designed to produce 550hp and over 1000ftlbs, power was reduced by 100 across the board for the sake of the transmission. It’s not difficult to produce high HP diesel engines, companies like Heath, Banks and Wagler have been making very powerful light-duty diesels for many years. Problem is in, as you said, one must sacrifice the economy and bountiful low-end grunt to achieve 500 plus HP. Interestingly, large gas engines are having a bit of a comeback lately with GM and Ford currently offering 400+ci V8s in their big pickup trucks. Those big gas engines can produce better economy in mixed use conditions than the mighty diesels.
@Retired Bore I'm talking about passenger vehicles, not commercial ones. Commercial vehicles here go up to nearly 1000hp easily, but tractor trailers are a completely different universe from Ford F250s and Chevy 2500s.
@Retired Bore If those 15 litre compound-turbo diesel Volvos didn’t make at least 600hp, then there’s something very wrong. I think the OP was referring to light-duty engines used in cars and light trucks
@Retired Bore I really didn't need to. The American Big Three are General Motors, Fiat-Chrysler (or Stellantis, now), and Ford. None of those three make tractor trailers, which precludes my statement from including big rigs.
@Retired Bore Stellantis' status as American or European is at most questionable, considering it's the result of a merger - not a takeover - of a French company with a previously merged pair of Italian and American companies. It is at worst questionable to call it American since in part it still is. I'm quite well aware that there's an industry outside of the USA, hence why I referred to engines that they don't sell in the USA. VW has never offered the 4.0 TDI in the USA, nor has BMW's tri-turbo 3.0 diesel been offered here. But I suppose expecting people to understand that there's an automotive industry outside Europe was a mistake on my part. To be sure, I'll make sure to explain in excruciating detail the nature of Ram, Ford, and Chevy trucks rather than assuming I'm talking to someone who can infer from context of "American Big Three" when next this subject comes up.
3:46 The chain design is TOTAL rubbish! It is prone to premature wear and mounted at the rear of the engine, requiring engine removal to rectify. It's a typically German engine, great while it's running well, crazy expensive to fix if it isn't.
Actually the chain design is very reliable, i know from first hand experience having disassembled two with higher mileage. No stretch to see. The weak point is the oil pump hex drive shaft that tend to wear round and stop turning the oil pump. Similar to 2.0 tdi engines where thats quite common. However in the v12 it lasts 300-400.000 km before that becomes an issue. Should not be overlooked however because it can total the engine. Look at my disassembly video if you’re interested
@@faxxzc wrong. the local service has to change those around 200k on those garbage 3.0tdi audis. costs well over 2 grand to fix in eastern europe, probably 3-6k in the western.
That R8 V12 was one of the best looking cars Audi ever made too! So sad it was never made. Apparently because the transmission couldn't handle the torque.
Please,talk about the gm 6 cylinders family! They are equiped in the first corvette,Chevy nova,and more,here in Brazil i see to much engines from this type,normally the 250-S that equiped the Omega and the unique Brazilian Muscle car,the Chevrolet Opala,this engines makes over 150hp in the car in the 70s,in a car that weight less than 1.100kg,because this combination this engine maked this car faster than a Charger V8 and a Maverick V8,but actually,some engines like this can make over 2000hp for drag races,so,for me they are a good base engine for tuning carburated inline sixes,so,here is my sugestion :)
considering this engine is based on two 3.0 V6 TDI engines, it should be capable of around 1000hp with stock internals (have a look at the darkside performance 3.0 TDI for reference)
5:54 Towing planes for an advertising campaign is so lame. A typical aircraft tug would only require around 120 HP / 89 kW Torque @ 2800 rpm (Diesel) 354 ft lbs / 480 Nm to tow a Boeing 757
but a tug has gearing to make up for it, they may even run hydraulic transmission. Doing the same job on a normal car transmission is very different thing.
No it couldn’t replace a power stroke or a cummins because this is meant for racing, aka built for higher rpm, cummins and power stroke are made for low rpm, aka pulling 30k lbs uphill. All 3 are diesel engines but built for different purposes. Its definitely impressive. I personally own an F10 535d and its tuned, and yes higher hp diesels are nuts. I have a cummins as well tuned and a mk6 tdi lol. All for different purposes 😂
600 bhp divided by 12= 50bhp per cylinder and then you've got all that weight to carry around and to get get off line and out of twistsys compare this to Mercedes-Benz 2.0 amg engine
They couldn't make a strong enough trans to handle it *that would fit in the R8. There's plenty of transmissions that will handle this engine, they just won't fit inside an R8.
I remember distinctly that in my final year of secondary school, my best friends mum got one of the v12 TDI q7s. Was an extremely comfortable car. Wish I’d known how powerful it was then 😂
I was behind a Q7 in Australia at some lights. It took off like a scalded cat,I looked and I thought I saw a V12 TDI badge. Never got near it to look again. It was near a Dealership.
Had a couple of V10 TDIs, have some info on them, please feel free to contact me in case you need some info on them. If you are going to create a video about V10, please consider all 3 gens (euro 3 introduction(2003-2005.05: no oil for camshafts so fast warnout, poor castings lead to cracked cylinder heads and poor plasma coat on cylinders so it was falling apart under bad conditions), euro 3 revised (2005.06+: castings, cylinder heads oil check valves, camshaft oiling, solved plasma coating), euro 4 (slightly larger turbo compressor trim, slightly different cooling system, EGR cooler, DPF filter)) when searching for info on that one.
I once had one of those in front of my car, waiting on a red traffic light. He was towing a trailer with 2 horses in and when he pushed his throttle I certainly found my self in an astrological low pressure area!
I have One Q7 V12 TDi in my collection , this vehicle is amazing , the engine awesome and a real collector , if you mechanics , no problem to stay healthy this cathédrale mecanic . I love my Q7 he is unique 😍
here an owner of a 4.2 V8 TDI Audi A8. Gotta love the sound and power of this V8 engine. Luckily they are still making the V8 TDI nowadays, being a 4.0 TDI V8
man I love your videos, perfect timing, only most important information, and great footage + pleasant voice to hear all in one, yet no begging for subscribes and likes, nor stupid annoying intro. Good job man, keep it up!
Traditionally, V12 engines have been the smoothest and most well mannered of all and reserved for high-end luxury saloons and sports cars. Diesel engines, on the other hand, were great for trucks. What on earth were VAG thinking when they designed this engine ?
They probably thought they want to combine the great qualities of both efficient, torquey diesel and smooth luxury 12 cylinder gas cars. They pulled it off pretty well in my opinion. When i give a ride to people in mine that don’t know they have no clue what to make of it, usually they say it feels and sounds like a jet boat or jet turbine, it doesn’t sound like an internal combustion engine
Dual overhead cams overcomplicate the design, make it more expensive and prone to failure when the chain stretches, and yet, this engine doesn't turn any higher than the modern pushrod V8 (like the LSA for instance). They put this engine in the stupidest model possible: this engine should have ended up in the Audi RS6 Avant (the wagon), and it should have come with a manual transmission only - no ifs, buts, or maybes. AND, the RS6 should not have cost more than 30,000 euros (yes, Audi marketing, yes, Audi product planning, you read that correctly!) and it should have been mass-manufactured to amortize costs. Then the RS6 V12 TDI wagon would have been the halo aspirational car that it is meant to be. It would become legendary.
The title is " the most powerful diesel engines " Conclusion : a 7.25min vídeo about Audi. Bloody hell stupid, sorry. Don't forget about Peugeot that build the V12 HDI and win LeMans with it. There's more Cars than Audi, BMW and VW, dont forget that. You for sure not a car fanatic.
When the Q7, Touareg and Ranger Rover came out. Before them there were only Mercedes ML and BMW X5 that were kinda the big boys of SUV category. The Range Rover, Q7 and Touareg were like space ships for that time. Now people are too spoiled with too many gadgets and technology, but back in the day those cars were simply brutal looking machines.
No, no ,no. Give us diesel electric Tesla Cyber truck powered by well tuned two stroke turbocharged generator. 1000hp nonetheless. Nitrated diesel, ratio so high that it would be detonating outside of specific range of RPM.
I'm amazed they weren't all dumped onto the UK market, they'll buy a v12 *anything*, and made up a decent amount of the Lambo engined audis made for sale. No, not ones with Lambo derived engine blocks, ones factory fitted with actual Lambo engines. They only gained public notoriety after a car thief stole a v10 A5 and ran away from several police forces (including helicopters!) on his mad little crime spree....
The RS5 had a 4.2 FSI V8, which the 5.2 FSI was derived from (S6 / S8) and the R8 / Gallardo V10 was a further development from that. Apparently a newspaper hack saw this nugget of information, misinterpreted it and then claimed the RS5 had a V10. This bollocks then spread over the internet and here we are today.
i swear that both the audi R10 tdi and the peugeot 908 HDi diesel have this weird almost space ship sound to them when you see them sweeping corners... why did the v12 turbo diesel had to be so short lived... it only saddens me the chances to delight one's senses with these mythical machines only grows fainter as they start to extinguish due to age....
He would be ashamed of modern diesels, he invented them to run cleanly on peanut oil,the worlds first biofuel engine. But then the crude oil conpanies came along and we have filthy emissions
Jesus.... All the chains.... Getting that serviced has to be a small fortune. High performing diesel engine doesn't necessarily make a good diesel engine.
new powerstroke makes 475 hp and 1,075 foot lbs. pretty sure that's more overall power. Just not HORSE power. Same with cummins. I get what you are saying tho. Just not worded right.
A teacher of mine at technical school was the inventor of the laser bore honing process at Audi. He told me, the piston of the race engine was that small and flat, it was hard to believe it was of a diesel engine. Would really like to know, what it looks like, but there is nowhere a picture to be found.
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Sounds alot like the pistons we use in the US on some stroker race engines. You move the wrist pin up in relation to the top of the piston, this shortens the overall height of the piston but the real reason for it is to allow the use of a longer connecting rod for a better rod ratio. These are sometimes referred to as "long rod" engines.
such mal nach Mahle Monotherm,
das sollte ganz gut hinhauen
5:25
CCGA dry = 329 kg
23 litres of coolant = 25 kg
16.5 litres of oil = 14.6 kg
*Total*
CCGA wet = 369 kg
That's bloody heavy.
He got his info a bit wrong, i have one, it‘s 17 liters coolant and 12.5 liter oil. Not that it makes that much difference
@@faxxzc Ta! 10kg is all.
Fun fact: the R10 TDI never retired from a race with engine failure.
6:26 he said (there is not a 500+ diesel motor in any passenger car) hmmm chech westen champlin's ford mustang that puts out 1000hp+ with a cummins swap yeah sure its a truck engine but its from a passenger car and it makes 1000hp+
For those mechanics…. Imagine doing a timing chain in this thing
JTDM: Am I joke to you?
They could've saved themselves a lot of trouble by just using an om606
Must be unreliable as hell, otherwise they would outsell the Cummins and be placed in trucks
It's so sad they never finished the R8 V12 TDI
It was almost finished
Have a look for darkside developments, a diesel race car builder from over here in the uk. He has shown why the v12 tdi R8 was dropped. Using an example of the car and power unit.
couldn't get a manual gearbox that could handle the torque at the time 😬
Of course I know about Darkside as a VAG soothead :)
A diesel Supercar Is unique
So they can cheat again? The race version car was not a diesel. Yes it used mostly the same principles (autoignition ) but it wasn't powered by pump diesel. They used some fancy fuel mixture for those cars. So long story short you have another aspect of VW diesel gate in race engines or false advertising depending on how you want to look at it.
And I always thought the V10 TDI was the end all Volkswagen Audi diesel. Imagine that engine in an A8 sedan.
that would be interesting
It was in the phaeton wasn't it?
The Phaeton only received a petrol W12 just like the Touareg, A8 and Bentleys
@@CrazyWeeMonkey it dose
@@VisioRacer there is Phaeton V10 TDI , when i was working in Audi i saw one.
Ahh yes, TDU2 introduced me to the Q7 V12 TDI. Nuts indeed!
This engine was a beast, sadly we will never see the likes of her again ❤️
on the one hand, I am a TDI fanatic with the 1.9 ALH in my jetta, 50mpg highway is awesome. so a V12 tdi sounds amazing
on the other hand the v12 has timing components against the firewall... so a timing job is an engine out job. I wanted one before this video, now I'm unsure from a practical standpoint.
still a beast though
@@Forbiddina Q7 V12 TDIs are so expensive to own ceramic brakes on a suv are just stupid
You guys know a 6.7 Powerstroke will make more HP and Torque than this engine with just a tune right? Literally no aftermarket hardware, just a tune, and it will still be reliable. Hell, you could take a 5.9 single cam, mechanically injected cummins and do injectors, pump mods, and a turbo and come out with a 650+hp engine for less than a quarter what one of these things is worth as a complete engine on the secondary market.
@@barneymiller7894 It's factory power. Yes v12tdi can to be custom tuned and it will gain at least 100hv/200nm what some tuning company says their website.
@@zpr3d4t0r6 you can replace the ceramic brakes with steel brakes silly .
In a probably different way, this engine seems to rescue that Rudolf Diesel's famous "lost project", an engine light and powerful enough to be used in airplanes. Thank you and congratulations for this video!
Diamond DA42 Twin Star is the mass produced plane that I know of, which uses diesel engines. There might be more airplanes using diesel engines, but I wasn't going deep into this.
@@JachuJustyDriver Some German ultra high altitude reconnaissance version of the Junkers Ju88 bomber also used diesel engines.
@@JachuJustyDriver , me neither. Thanks for the information!
Mercedes-Benz's OM628/629 4.0-litre V8 diesel was used in an aeroplane or two
Packard made a 9-cylinder radial diesel for aircraft in the 1930's.
The most successful aircraft diesel was the Junkers 205/207 opposed-piston. They were in airline service in the 1930's and had some applications in WW2.
i have one and love it to death. currently has 310.000 km´s. i use 10.8L/100km. you can´t find a car that has better space, towing capacity, size, power, acceleration and fuel consumption combined
SQ7 V8 TDI > Q7 V12 TDI
@@orhankucuksahin6297 you probably have neither so your comment is invalid. The v8 is a boring engine. You probably also think the s8 > a8 w12
@@faxxzc well i’ve driven the SQ7 as a learner’s car when getting my hauling license. I’m temped to buy one, but because of shitty European emission regulations I started to think twice. My neighbour had an old Q7 with 4.2 V8 diesel which was not as spaceous as the SQ7 i’ve driven.
The SQ7 TDI much better than the Q7 V12 TDI in every single way. Sportier, torque output is almost identical Q7=1000 Nm vs. SQ7=900 Nm, on horsepower Q7= 500 HP vs SQ7= 435 HP. Despite the lower power output, the SQ7 is faster. The SQ7 got the more reliable and responsive ZF 8 speed gearbox instead of the less reliable ZF 6 speed gearbox. The SQ7 is faster than that road ship of yours because it’s a lot lighter, and it’s more modern. Plus it’s more fuel efficient. I bet you’d get even more power out of that V8 than that V12 because you’ve got more space under the hood of the SQ7 to do crazier mods than with that humongous V12 which weighs over 300 kg and doesn’t leave any room for bigger turbos etc. So you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. I’d bet even the SQ5 V6 TDI would be faster than your roadship in a 0-60 and even a 1/4 mile race. Old diesels are 💩
@@orhankucuksahin6297 i bought a sq7 engine and transmission. i want to put two high pressure pumps which go up to 2500 bar from the sq7 into the v12 which has old tech 2000 bar pumps. darkside made me 2 gtd2872 turbos which should go to 800 hp easy. from a technical standpoint i can tell you the sq7 engine is much more stressed due to the hot v turbo layout, it is very common for those to heat soak. also you cant do much on the exhaust because they have all that stupid euro 6 adblue stuff. the computers are regulating it so you cant throw it out for less restriction. if the v12 had the zf 8hp it would smoke the sq7. however the 6hp32 is much more reliable than the 8hp. i havent heard of a single gearbox failure yet, but you see dozens in the sq7 sq8 a8 touareg and the jeep trackhawks that run the same trans.
@@orhankucuksahin6297 plus the v8 is boring because they put it in so many cars. when you talk to people about the v8 they just yawn. however when you tell them you have a v12 diesel it´s a real conversation starter
Wow, the VAG has always been ahead of the game as far as automotive technology goes, but we ALL know that this engine was so far ahead of the game and it was EXTREMELY well balanced with an awesome powerband and how often do you see a V12 diesel? I have to give it up to Audi/VW for this build. They really crushed it with the Q7 V12TDi.
Lol……. It was good but totally way overkill!!! A v8 diesel would have been more than enough and improved over the time.
@@alanmay7929 the V8 SQ7 is better in every single way.
@@alanmay7929 the v6 is enough already. The v12 is for people that think „good enough“ is boring
Plus any new American diesel from a full size truck will make more horsepower and torque than this engine with just a tune. Literally no aftermarket hardware, just throw a tune on it and your already out performing the V12 TDI and probably still beating its reliability.
@@barneymiller7894 don’t even need a tune for the newer diesels, this v12 was a joke.
recently did a test drive in one of these V12 TDI audi's , the engine has so much torque , it drives like butter.
Hope you're not talking about road grip 🤣
@@flynick hahaha no , the grip is fine tbh. it hugs the road like a tank and it absorbs shocks surprisingly well considering it's extreme heft and high centre of gravity
wish i did test drive with 7.2l v12 turbocharged diesel
You should consider a SQ7 TDI, that’s even smoother and sportier than the Q7 V12 TDI
Torque goes brrrrr
This engine was the TDI hero. I had a TDI 1.9 manual when I first started driving and I loved it. It is such a shame dieselgate happened because these were great engines to drive and got amazing fuel economy.
Still got a 1.9 TDI in a Fabia VRS MK1, these diesels get more MPG than a smaller petrol engine so it offsets the cost. Diesel still works out cheaper in the UK, which is nice.
dieselgate is probably fake, to take down the diesel. and push for electric.
@@xJackkHD My friend had remapped vrs fabia with 1.9 too but sadly it got stolen. Great fun car - this fabia and a5 with 3.0 tdi are my favourite diesel cars - anyone who says diesel is boring should drive one of those.
@@sqarefox3928 yeah people like taking them cos they're fun to drive and quite powerful even standard. 3.0tdi is a brilliant engine as well quite a lot of tuning potential with the right parts and maps
Got 1.9 tdi pd with 199,000 miles, still goes well, and 3.0tdi 130,000 miles, goes very well
An Audi v12 tdi, that sounds a terrifying thing to own out of warranty, that’s all I can say.
Hahahahah yeah...
I was a tech at VW when one of my co-workers broke off a bolt in a magnesium W12 intake.
$11000 Canadian….dealer cost 😂
@@movinmetal2596 yikes
Audi has a penchant for stuffing the most engine in the tightest spaces. It's not uncommon for the entire engine needed to be removed to replace a timing chain and tensioners which are not accessible any other way. Even a front mounted serpentine belt often requires the entire front bumper assembly and wheel well liners to be removed as well as the radiator partially unbolted for tilting making it more of a professional procedure than weekend warrior affair. In other words, to put the most engineered high-power engines in Audi vehicles means a dis-connect to ease of maintenance which Audi doesn't apologize for.
@@AudioFileZ 😂😂😂
I had to drop the engine to do alternator! on a V10 TDI
You are not wrong lol
such a shame the R8 TDI never went into production
Darkside developments put a V8 TDI in their R8!
Naturally you have too many fans to even read never mind remember each comment but I recently responded to an older video about the best Audi engines. I mentioned I had worked for Audi franchises for nearly 20 years, during which time I had driven all except one of those featured. It may well have been the V12 TDI - we either had one at another branch where the Chairman was based, or we were going to get one but then didn't for some reason, it's that long ago, and even at the time, was that far removed from my job in finance on a different premises, the details are hazy. It would, for sure, have been interesting to try it!
Regarding the various comparisons, it seems rather a futile exercise as even then, any 12 cylinder was a real rarity - just a handful like Rolls Royce and Ferrari, but a diesel one? Although Cummins do design engines for automotive installation, I would tend to say in that case, suitable for flat-bed truck type vehicles only: they're really suppliers of engines to a more "industrial" sector - like long distance haulage, big mining dump trucks and agricultural machinery - while it does beat the V12Tdi on torque, that's mostly because as you said, Audi had to limit it artificially to avoid exploding the gearbox. Otherwise an easy 1100lb/ft was possible. Factor in its full fat 500hp, when Cummins only musters 420, one begins to see just how advanced it was - not forgetting the Cummins is a 6.7 so has most of a whole litre extra capacity - making the Audi effort from 2009 yet more impressive. The most significant difference though, is it has a measly 6 cylinders! It's hard therefore to see how even tentative comparisons can be made, and what the value is of any such attempts. The latest Audi 4.0 V8TDIs are still shy on power and torque - but not by much that's for sure! 435PS and 900Nm is just 13% and 10% less than the V12's 500/1000 outputs despite 33% less volume. It's still only a V8 though, and just so much less interesting and unique - despite those highly impressive numbers. It wasn't that long ago that the C5 gen RS6s were trumpeting about 108hp per litre and yet here is a DIESEL car matching that. Nevertheless, the V12TDI was, and remains, absolutely unique - and I think for that, it deserves to be allowed its solitary and unquestioned disdain of "lesser machines" in perpetuity 😏
108 HP per liter is also not much more than what the Daihatsu Charade GTti had. And certainly less than what the Honda S2000 had.
Beautifully said!
If anything diesel and electric combined in a car will be the future of power, using it as a range extender and having a way to spool up the diesel engine for added power to launch with electric will make some very quick cars. Freight train pulling power but for the road!
could you talk about european truck engines? theres some really powerfull production engines used day to day by some people even a basic engine setup for a semi is pushing like 460/500hp and they do that for 9 hours a day every single day of the year, very long lasting as i have seen a lot of 1 million km trucks some getting to 2 or more
I remember when this engine was still in the testing stage and the problem at that point was that there was no transmission small and sturdy enough to withstand the torque developed by the engine. IIRC they stuffed one in an R8 as a prototype and had to put a Ford Transit van transmission in it for a fighting chance :)
The biggest advantage that the diesel has is the fact that diesel fuel has 17% more calories than petrol. The Audis made fewer fuel stops as it had better economy. It was still bloody fast but it’s economy was a massive factor. IMHO.
Higher energy density and also the diesel engine is more efficient by some 10% due to the higher compression and isobaric expansion
@@faxxzc now you’re getting too clever for me, didn’t Michael Jackson use isobaric treatment?
Audi must make a hypercar for the road with a V12 as a tribute to the R10 TDI, with a 932BHP hybrid V12 engine that runs on renewable diesel HVO, a rival for the LaFerrari, Valkyrie, AMG 1, Delage D12 and Czinger 21C. 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🏎️♻️
PD: If Volkswagen Group (controls Audi) went also for e fuels, biofuels and hydrogen (H2-ICE and fuel cells), they could bring V12 engines again, this time more efficient and running on renewable fuels 🏎️♻️, we need a balance, not go to the extreme. 🙏🏻🙌🏻
a video of the big 3 American heavy duty diesel pickups would be pretty cool!
As a side note, the modern generation of all those engines (Cummins, Powerstroke, and Duramax) are all heavily under tuned from the factory. They will actually make more power and torque than the V12 TDI with just a tune, no aftermarket hard parts needed.
@@barneymiller7894 yeah definitely, they’re all overbuilt from factory and can pull off crazy numbers on the stock motor with just a tune but get detuned for the sake of reliability. My dad owns a tuned and deleted 6.7 Cummins and for a nearly 6000 lb truck it really rips
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6:24 The fact that no diesel passenger cars have exceeded 500hp probably has something to do with the fact that it would be pointless. Fast diesels are great, yes, but at the end of the day a fast gasser will always perform better. So even a performance diesel is always going to need to focus on diesel advantages - fuel economy and pulling capability - over or at least in concert with raw performance. Past 500 horsepower, that's probably rather difficult to do no matter how you get there. The 4.0TDI and BMW's tri-turbo 3-liter are considerably slower than equivalent gas powertrains despite pushing 500hp, yet the difference in efficiency between them and their gas rivals is much narrower than with lower-performing diesels. I wager the American Big Three's truck diesels will eventually break the 500hp barrier, but that's going to be a side-effect of what the companies are actually after; torque.
The current L5P Duramax was designed to produce 550hp and over 1000ftlbs, power was reduced by 100 across the board for the sake of the transmission.
It’s not difficult to produce high HP diesel engines, companies like Heath, Banks and Wagler have been making very powerful light-duty diesels for many years. Problem is in, as you said, one must sacrifice the economy and bountiful low-end grunt to achieve 500 plus HP.
Interestingly, large gas engines are having a bit of a comeback lately with GM and Ford currently offering 400+ci V8s in their big pickup trucks. Those big gas engines can produce better economy in mixed use conditions than the mighty diesels.
@Retired Bore I'm talking about passenger vehicles, not commercial ones. Commercial vehicles here go up to nearly 1000hp easily, but tractor trailers are a completely different universe from Ford F250s and Chevy 2500s.
@Retired Bore If those 15 litre compound-turbo diesel Volvos didn’t make at least 600hp, then there’s something very wrong.
I think the OP was referring to light-duty engines used in cars and light trucks
@Retired Bore I really didn't need to. The American Big Three are General Motors, Fiat-Chrysler (or Stellantis, now), and Ford. None of those three make tractor trailers, which precludes my statement from including big rigs.
@Retired Bore Stellantis' status as American or European is at most questionable, considering it's the result of a merger - not a takeover - of a French company with a previously merged pair of Italian and American companies. It is at worst questionable to call it American since in part it still is.
I'm quite well aware that there's an industry outside of the USA, hence why I referred to engines that they don't sell in the USA. VW has never offered the 4.0 TDI in the USA, nor has BMW's tri-turbo 3.0 diesel been offered here. But I suppose expecting people to understand that there's an automotive industry outside Europe was a mistake on my part. To be sure, I'll make sure to explain in excruciating detail the nature of Ram, Ford, and Chevy trucks rather than assuming I'm talking to someone who can infer from context of "American Big Three" when next this subject comes up.
3:46 The chain design is TOTAL rubbish!
It is prone to premature wear and mounted at the rear of the engine, requiring engine removal to rectify.
It's a typically German engine, great while it's running well, crazy expensive to fix if it isn't.
Actually the chain design is very reliable, i know from first hand experience having disassembled two with higher mileage. No stretch to see. The weak point is the oil pump hex drive shaft that tend to wear round and stop turning the oil pump. Similar to 2.0 tdi engines where thats quite common. However in the v12 it lasts 300-400.000 km before that becomes an issue. Should not be overlooked however because it can total the engine. Look at my disassembly video if you’re interested
No shit?! Typical Germans! Always going out of their way to make their cars impossible to work on!
@@faxxzc wrong. the local service has to change those around 200k on those garbage 3.0tdi audis. costs well over 2 grand to fix in eastern europe, probably 3-6k in the western.
That R8 V12 was one of the best looking cars Audi ever made too! So sad it was never made. Apparently because the transmission couldn't handle the torque.
Please,talk about the gm 6 cylinders family! They are equiped in the first corvette,Chevy nova,and more,here in Brazil i see to much engines from this type,normally the 250-S that equiped the Omega and the unique Brazilian Muscle car,the Chevrolet Opala,this engines makes over 150hp in the car in the 70s,in a car that weight less than 1.100kg,because this combination this engine maked this car faster than a Charger V8 and a Maverick V8,but actually,some engines like this can make over 2000hp for drag races,so,for me they are a good base engine for tuning carburated inline sixes,so,here is my sugestion :)
Which engine series is that? Gm made a lot of 6 cylinder engines.
@@andrewlace i just know that this engine is from the family of the gm 194,230,295,Ld4,215,216 and more
considering this engine is based on two 3.0 V6 TDI engines, it should be capable of around 1000hp with stock internals (have a look at the darkside performance 3.0 TDI for reference)
The title is a bit misleading, the V12 tdi can’t compare with ship or locomotive diesel engines
38 PSI of boost from factory is friggin insane!
5:54 Towing planes for an advertising campaign is so lame.
A typical aircraft tug would only require around 120 HP / 89 kW Torque @ 2800 rpm (Diesel) 354 ft lbs / 480 Nm to tow a Boeing 757
but a tug has gearing to make up for it, they may even run hydraulic transmission. Doing the same job on a normal car transmission is very different thing.
Why do you think the 2-stroke Diesel engine is not popular ? I mean, you can find them in the USA only but not in the rest of the world.
No it couldn’t replace a power stroke or a cummins because this is meant for racing, aka built for higher rpm, cummins and power stroke are made for low rpm, aka pulling 30k lbs uphill. All 3 are diesel engines but built for different purposes. Its definitely impressive. I personally own an F10 535d and its tuned, and yes higher hp diesels are nuts. I have a cummins as well tuned and a mk6 tdi lol. All for different purposes 😂
600 bhp divided by 12= 50bhp per cylinder and then you've got all that weight to carry around and to get get off line and out of twistsys compare this to Mercedes-Benz 2.0 amg engine
By my deeds I honour him - V8.
I just bought SQ7 Petrol V8 with 507 hp. What a machine! Fuel economy sucks, but screw it.
Your videos need English subtitles created by you. In this way, everyone can watch your videos with subtitles in their own language.
The new 6.7L powerstroke turbo diesel makes 505 horsepower, so the number has been broken. But that’s a truck not a passenger car
I remember they were supposed to put that V12 TDI in the R8 and couldn't make a trans strong enough to handle it.
They couldn't make a strong enough trans to handle it *that would fit in the R8. There's plenty of transmissions that will handle this engine, they just won't fit inside an R8.
I love my 1.9 TDI golf. Diesels are awesome, still not as magical as petrol but I like it anyway.
A few days ago I saw the first of this species and heard recently, that there works no v6 or v8 in it. Then I saw the badge and the exhaust
I remember distinctly that in my final year of secondary school, my best friends mum got one of the v12 TDI q7s. Was an extremely comfortable car. Wish I’d known how powerful it was then 😂
This car has enough torque to stop the earth's rotation
"Jeremy clarkson"
I have a VW Touareg with the v10 diesel in it and I absolutely love it so much !
I was behind a Q7 in Australia at some lights. It took off like a scalded cat,I looked and I thought I saw a V12 TDI badge. Never got near it to look again. It was near a Dealership.
Nothing wrong with rear hand drive!
Had a couple of V10 TDIs, have some info on them, please feel free to contact me in case you need some info on them. If you are going to create a video about V10, please consider all 3 gens (euro 3 introduction(2003-2005.05: no oil for camshafts so fast warnout, poor castings lead to cracked cylinder heads and poor plasma coat on cylinders so it was falling apart under bad conditions), euro 3 revised (2005.06+: castings, cylinder heads oil check valves, camshaft oiling, solved plasma coating), euro 4 (slightly larger turbo compressor trim, slightly different cooling system, EGR cooler, DPF filter)) when searching for info on that one.
I’d rather have this than an electric
🧐 You really get around the yt comments huh?
@@barneymiller7894 What?
that V12 TDi with a modern DSG gearbox would be epic! 🏁
i have the 3.0 TDI. what a car, quick, spacious with amazing mileage
Peugeot also won Le Mans in 2007
7:10 i'm sorry - _what_ hand drive?
I once had one of those in front of my car, waiting on a red traffic light. He was towing a trailer with 2 horses in and when he pushed his throttle I certainly found my self in an astrological low pressure area!
R8 v12 TDI would've been cool... Can see why they didn't do it though doesn't make a lot of sense.
I have One Q7 V12 TDi in my collection , this vehicle is amazing , the engine awesome and a real collector , if you mechanics , no problem to stay healthy this cathédrale mecanic .
I love my Q7 he is unique 😍
I have a suggestion, would you be able to put a zf8 gearbox in that thing, or a dsg for better shifting, and to remove the torque restriction
This again proves a choice of engine is critical when specing a vehicle and not to be fooled by the EV craze.
A sound track is essential.
Would be interesting to see this engine drinking a diesel fuel in my country 🤭🤭
Cat understand your slurred voice 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
here an owner of a 4.2 V8 TDI Audi A8. Gotta love the sound and power of this V8 engine. Luckily they are still making the V8 TDI nowadays, being a 4.0 TDI V8
Its unfortunately also already discontinued, they made it only until 2020 i think
@@faxxzc let me check
@@faxxzc nope. It’s still installed in the SQ7, SQ8 (european models)
@@1dayumay548 i just checked wikipedia, it says the 4.0 tdi was discontinued end of 2020, the sq7 is only available as a 4.0 tfsi now
I really doubt the GTB2260VK's were pushing 2.6bar of boost. Thats just bullshit.
man I love your videos, perfect timing, only most important information, and great footage + pleasant voice to hear all in one, yet no begging for subscribes and likes, nor stupid annoying intro. Good job man, keep it up!
Much appreciated, Lenny, thanks!
i need one of these to add to my V10tdi .....Ja
wish audi/ VW would go back to the 2000’s
the time when automotive companies still have common sense...
truly a master peace.
If the chip that Volkswagen was not cheating at the deq Diesel engines could still have been used in modern cars to this day
Traditionally, V12 engines have been the smoothest and most well mannered of all and reserved for high-end luxury saloons and sports cars. Diesel engines, on the other hand, were great for trucks. What on earth were VAG thinking when they designed this engine ?
Maybe they were experimenting.
They were thinking that they can. So they did
They probably thought they want to combine the great qualities of both efficient, torquey diesel and smooth luxury 12 cylinder gas cars. They pulled it off pretty well in my opinion. When i give a ride to people in mine that don’t know they have no clue what to make of it, usually they say it feels and sounds like a jet boat or jet turbine, it doesn’t sound like an internal combustion engine
Dual overhead cams overcomplicate the design, make it more expensive and prone to failure when the chain stretches, and yet, this engine doesn't turn any higher than the modern pushrod V8 (like the LSA for instance). They put this engine in the stupidest model possible: this engine should have ended up in the Audi RS6 Avant (the wagon), and it should have come with a manual transmission only - no ifs, buts, or maybes. AND, the RS6 should not have cost more than 30,000 euros (yes, Audi marketing, yes, Audi product planning, you read that correctly!) and it should have been mass-manufactured to amortize costs. Then the RS6 V12 TDI wagon would have been the halo aspirational car that it is meant to be. It would become legendary.
The title is " the most powerful diesel engines "
Conclusion : a 7.25min vídeo about Audi.
Bloody hell stupid, sorry.
Don't forget about Peugeot that build the V12 HDI and win LeMans with it.
There's more Cars than Audi, BMW and VW, dont forget that. You for sure not a car fanatic.
When the Q7, Touareg and Ranger Rover came out. Before them there were only Mercedes ML and BMW X5 that were kinda the big boys of SUV category.
The Range Rover, Q7 and Touareg were like space ships for that time. Now people are too spoiled with too many gadgets and technology, but back in the day those cars were simply brutal looking machines.
7:13 RHD = "Rear Hand Drive"?😂😂😂😉
Holy shit i did not realize it had two 2260's. Thats so sick, my car only has one damn.
Vag does diesel well
I also like om605 and om606 from merc. And ofc cummins ;]
No, no ,no. Give us diesel electric Tesla Cyber truck powered by well tuned two stroke turbocharged generator.
1000hp nonetheless. Nitrated diesel, ratio so high that it would be detonating outside of specific range of RPM.
I'm amazed they weren't all dumped onto the UK market, they'll buy a v12 *anything*, and made up a decent amount of the Lambo engined audis made for sale.
No, not ones with Lambo derived engine blocks, ones factory fitted with actual Lambo engines. They only gained public notoriety after a car thief stole a v10 A5 and ran away from several police forces (including helicopters!) on his mad little crime spree....
The RS5 had a 4.2 FSI V8, which the 5.2 FSI was derived from (S6 / S8) and the R8 / Gallardo V10 was a further development from that. Apparently a newspaper hack saw this nugget of information, misinterpreted it and then claimed the RS5 had a V10. This bollocks then spread over the internet and here we are today.
I've driven a V10 tuareg before, so i know how those pull.
i swear that both the audi R10 tdi and the peugeot 908 HDi diesel have this weird almost space ship sound to them when you see them sweeping corners... why did the v12 turbo diesel had to be so short lived... it only saddens me the chances to delight one's senses with these mythical machines only grows fainter as they start to extinguish due to age....
this thing has more Bearing elements then my Entire car ._.
This crazy expensive v12 will NEVER replace a cummings or powerstroke. Don't lie to your viewers.
Ruldof Diesel would have been so proud of this beast engine.🙏
He would be ashamed of modern diesels, he invented them to run cleanly on peanut oil,the worlds first biofuel engine. But then the crude oil conpanies came along and we have filthy emissions
No Rudolf - Ulrich Baretzky ! Audi šport
New HO Powerstroke is 500HP and 1200lbs of Torque from the factory.
Jesus.... All the chains.... Getting that serviced has to be a small fortune.
High performing diesel engine doesn't necessarily make a good diesel engine.
Why on earth did they put it in a Q7 🤦🏻 they should definitely have put it in S8, all that power is just eaten up by the 2.6 ton weight
there's a Q7 V12 500hp/1000nm for sale in Denmark for $40k... just give me a few years
I drove an Audi R8 once, and ferrari 360 twice. ferrari less powerful, but Audi no soul bordeline boring.
They only sold about 50 of them, how sad. A Duramax V-8 weighs about 55kg more.
What's more balanced rather than an inline 6 super smooth characteristics? A 2 inline 6 in a V-shaped engine for sure lol!
Rear hand drive xD what are octopuses in UK
Video time only zero DRAGS !
Did this engine make it to lmp1 or nah? Cuz I swear the Audi LMP car sounds the exact same
VW is life
new powerstroke makes 475 hp and 1,075 foot lbs. pretty sure that's more overall power. Just not HORSE power. Same with cummins.
I get what you are saying tho. Just not worded right.
And the new Powerstroke will make 700+whp with nothing more than an aggressive tune. The dyno videos are out there to prove it.
@@barneymiller7894 YUP! I almost mentioned it.
@@barneymiller7894 Nobody cares about a tuned diesel engine. This is a video of an most powerful diesel engine from the factory.
@@ikaika7439 LMFAO
That sound is sick. Makes my baby 3.0TDI sound like a pouring kitten.
I think there was some conjecture back in the day about shoe horning this thing into the R8. Someone should get on that.
Nothing is stronger than Love.
Except a Touareg V10 Turbo Diesel
I really doubt the mahle pistons were forged.
First off it's vw, second they made a v10, 3rd it's because they made the v10
Bmw 6 cylinder quad turbo tdi produced 400 hp & could be chip tuned to 530 hp
6.7 Cummins is the most powerful Diesel engine in a production vehicle 👌
Hopefully this is a Better Engine than that Shitty , Unreliable V-10 .