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So I'm an Audi mechanic. They took one of these in on trade a couple years ago with 56,220 miles for 16k. I bought it for $18,760. I welded new end tanks on a 4 inch thick mishimoto intercooler core. It was from my sn95 mustang drift car before I went n/a with a 400ci small block ford sprint car engine that makes 840hp. Put larger injectors in, upgraded pressure pump, fiddled with the waste gates, built my own aluminum charge piping and exhaust, tuned it on my buddies dyno with the help of one of my buddies in Deutschland, we got her up to 720 wheel hp and 1204 lb ft. It's a menace to society to be honest. I live in Reno, Nevada so whoever said we didn't get them here is just flat out incorrect. Another thing, I've obviously had the tcu flashed as well but I've got over 100,000 miles and haven't had a single problem.
@taidee I love it man. I just took my brothers and parents home in our after our Thanksgiving tonight. My girlfriend was with us too. With 6 people in the car having a conversation I got it up to 145mph before my mom said "does it seem like we're going really fast?" I was like, na momma this ain't fast we're only doing 145. If I lay into the throttle like this.....see NOW we're going fast!
The Volkswagen Group had the most varied lineup of engines back in the 2000s for both diesel and petrol cars: from inline 3, 4 and 5 cylinder engines to V6, V8, V10 and V12 engines to VR5 and VR6 engines to W8, W12 and W16 engines. There was even a secret prototype W10 engine that was tested in a BMW M5. The only engine configuration they didn't make was an inline 6 cylinder engine because it was not going to fit in their FWD and AWD cars due to the way they package their engines and their AWD systems that require a transaxle to sit directly between the two front wheels.
Except first gen Q7 for some odd reason, it has a bit different AWD system than the rest of the Audi lineup, that allowed them to place the engine the same way BMW and Mercedes do it, so that a V12 or Inline 6 could fit.
I had both the Audi A7 biTurbo Diesel and the Audi S7 petrol and after easily tuning the torque to 900nm in the biTDI I actually preferred the diesel. There was something about being able to cruise up a tall incline hill with very little throttle and it didn't even bother dropping down out of 8th gear most of the time, that just felt actually powerful. So I can only imagine what this V12 version was like 😂
Well tuning would be out of the question without beefing up the gearbox. Torque at the peak was limited from the factory to give the gearbox a fighting chance.
I own one. Drive it around 15k kms per year. Currently close to 300k kms. No major issues with it, however a lot of regular maintenance require dropping the engine, which is costly. I will never find another car that is as robust and agile in the same time. Also, the fuel economy is not that bad. Usually, cars with similar specs, but with petrol engines get at least 20-30% more fuel usage. Usually, highway fuel usage is around 12-14 liters/100 km (17-20 mpg).
I own a cayenne second generation model 92A that has the audi 4.2 V8 turbodiesel. And it is chipped to 455hp 950nm torq. 0-100 in 4.5sec. i drive it 4years now and no major mainenance costs. Verry reliable. Fuel consumption is 7-8 liters/100km. And 12liters/100km when you floor it all the time.
It’s too bad that the concept did not gain traction in the R8 - pun intended. It would have been nice to have a turbodiesel engine in the R8 while Audi were dominating Endurance Racing. Oh, well… 🤷🏽♂️
I remember the year 2009 a house being built in my neighborhood, once it was finished I rode by it in my bike and there I saw a white Q7 with the lettering V12 on its boot. I was in absolute shock and awe. Not by the fact that it was a diesel V12 but a V12 in an SUV...
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I remember my father getting a Q7 As a rental car for a work trip back around 2008 I think. He took me in it on the Autobahn to visit my grandmother who was in hospital in another town at that time. It felt very powerfull and went very fast on a mostly unrestricted Autobahn :) I was actually quite scared on the way back, because it was fast and my dad took full advantage of the car and the fuel payed for by the company
We just imported a 2nd gen of the v12 TDI Q7 at our shop in Ontario. It was imported from Germany. With just a dpf, cat, EGR and scr delete it's been flawless. Over the summer we usually used our 2500 Ram high output 6.7 Cummins to tow our race trailer. While that was getting the "emissions" system worked on we used the Q7. It worked amazing!
I’m halfway in the video and no honourable mention to the 5.0 V10 diesel that was also in the Toureg/VW stable. (PS I know it’s not the best engine but it’s still an interesting engine and a V10)
This is what I was looking for also. Not sure which is more reliable, neither have the best reputation. Those Toureg torque numbers have made me want one since they came out, I just don't want to pay to maintain and repair a VW.
I had one of those v10s touareg. Everything broke on it. I had to drop the engine to replace power steering pump, later I had to drop the engine again to replace leaking turbos, half if the engine had to be reisembled to replace glow plugs which failed within a year, carbon buildup was crazy on in in 40k, water pump faild within 50k. I broke driveshaft, probably 4x, and of course, airbag shocks failed multiple times. The times it worked, it was a great car, but it was in the garage on a hoist, probably 1/3 of the time
I live in Brazil and Q7s here are very rare. The few old ones remaining are sold for like 4-digit amounts (in dollars). I own a 2013 VW Touareg 4.2 V8, which has a petrol engine by Audi btw, and that thing is so cool that I can only imagine how a V12 TDi must be!
R8 was supposed to have that engine but was too big and no gearbox could support it. Darkside Development is putting a v12 TDI in a VW Amarok with a manual.
16:53 The 120 degree engine angle greatly helps balancing, allowing you to rev higher. The “Hot V” set up he mentions shortens the exhaust length into the turbo allowing for increased responsiveness and easier packaging.
Audi have made some amazing diesels. Last week I was up and down the country twice in a 4wd DSG 184hp torque monster and at "fast road " speed it returned 50mpg. What a machine!
@@laikiuxcs2servers I hear you. My other vehicle is a 6 speed manual 2.5Tdi 5 cylinder VW Transporter Shuttle with 120,00 miles on the clock and it's still on its original clutch!
I was at all of the Le Mans 24hr the R18 entered and 2 or 3 or the Spa 6hr races. Those things cornered like they were on rails. Stuck to the road so much better than anything else on the track at the time. And they were so quiet it was like a gust of wind fizzing by. If you weren't paying attention you'd miss them and have to wait for them to come around again. They were incredible race cars
I own 2004 Audi A4 Avant 1.9 TDI with 540 000km on the clock and still runs beautifully. The torque is incredible from that tiny motor. It's 6 speed manual. And they drinks so little of diesel. Very very reliable wagon! Audi does a brilliant job on diesels.
Audi South Africa only brought in 30x of the Q7 V12 TDI's. I worked for Audi in sales for many years, and have only seen 2x of them ever. (One at the dealer, another on the road)
@matthewdutoit I just took mine in to get some headwork done it's been 2 months now I'm anxious to get it back, I went to TPH to get headbolts and a 3 notch elring head gasket from goldwagen. I just wanna get some extra juice out of mine.. these engines are great!
@@CostaMokola the turbo needs to be recon. And some issues to be sorted out. I bought her October 2023 with those issues. The car was previously owned by sales rep.
I always said, back before I was a builder and was a lowly vw mechanic, that diesel, with its insane torque, only needed to be paired with the right gearbox and turbo and they could be unbelievably quick. Maybe not 0 to 60 amazing but having relentless pull, you could have a car that goes from 50 to 90 in 2 seconds! Diesel's should be providing far more smiles than they currently do!
The Q7 and Touareg big TDIs were insane. I'd love to have the Touareg since the Q7 didn't make it here, but I already have enough old German cars fighting for the pennies in my bank account.
This is why i used to love Audi - they used to desing and put insane engines in cars which shouldn't be having such engines. V12 diesel in a SUV, twin-turbo V10 in a family estate... You simply won't see anything like that again. I loved the philosphy Audi had from the 1980s up until 2009. They took big risks and made unassuming cars with exciting engines. Now they are just like a design house and haven't put a proper engine in a car for 15 years (with the exception of the 3.0TFSI, which also dates back to 2009).
The same here in Brazil, but V10 TDi are so rare that I guess less than 5 cars were brought here. I have a VW Touareg 4.2 V8 petrol engine that is 1 of 500 in the country
Ive got a Bi turbo a6 and nothing for 10k can match how much fun the pure pace, and versatility that a 4wd car can give you for the price range, 0-60 in 5 seconds for an estate car is just mental, it was peak engineering, will never get that anymore
I had the single turbo 3.0 V6 with the DSG gearbox, it's a much nicer drive than the BiTurbo, which my partner has. When you get out of one and straight in the other you realise just how much better the 7speed twin clutch is. The BiTurbo sounds better though, that's undeniable.
I had an A6 C7 allroad BiTdi for 5 or 6 years. Fantastic car. As you say 0 - 60 was 5ish (or sligtly less) and the overtaking pace was brilliant -say 40 - 70. All of that performance and a great sound (always had my exhaust set to dynamic / sports mode) and 45MPG +
The Q7 V12 never would have caught on here in the US because we have crew cab HD trucks. The equivalent of this Q7 in 2024 is the Ford F250 h.o. Platinum. With 500hp and 1200 lb/ft of torque (1600 nm), it’s very nearly as fast as this Q7 from 0-60. It costs $100,000. And on massive US roads it probably feels about the same size as the Q7 feels on tiny British roads. Plenty of luxury, tech, and space for your whole family.
Really interesting vehicle, especially since the new Q7 55 does 0-60 in the same time, and that the new SQ7 does it in 4 seconds. Also really interesting how the 1st gen Touareg had a V10, which Fifth Gear used to tow a 747 with
Audi make great diesel engines, and great cars in general, got over 175k on mine 200hp tdi 2.0 and it goes well a d reliable, when it gives up ill gett another in a heartbeat
Ther was a limited edition too. Patrick Hellman 111 ever made. Back in the day it was something like 250k in dollars. It had such features like crocodile lether... Creazy money.
Someone once said: "you dont race the opponents, you race the regulations" The only reason diesel audi was winning were the regulations of ammount of fuel in a tank and not ammount of energy in the tank. . Nontheless, I love diesel.
Absolutely stonking SUV. The race cars were incredible too. Such a shame they never made the R8 diesel. That would have been an absolute monster for the road
This car was the highlight of my driving years to Clarkson and one and all. I actually delivered this very press car to EVO , back in the day. It was actually for Jethro , If I'm not mistaken.
I was younger back then and glanced at these crazy VAG projects initiated by Piech that blew everything away. Only years later I learned how expensive everyone of these projects had to be. Today a VW car with more than three engine choices and more than four real buttons per vehicle seems to be forbidden, costsaving for the race to the bottom... Dont even get me started on the UX hell they created for themselfs since the MK8 Golf.... On one hand, a diesel seems to be the logical choice for a big euro SUV, On the other hand, there was no way these big TDI´s would have met modern emissions, the 2.0 TDI had problems with that and got stopped by Dieselgate. Even the A8 lost its V8TDI option in 2020...
This example was fitted with the 'exclusive' options package (Totalling 45k itself apparently) and was a concept car to show it off. That's why I think it's in Audi UK's press office. I even think it's one of one.
lawd I wish my old boss had more patience, he ended up getting the V8 and not waiting the 4-5 months it would have took to get the V12. but the V8 he got was decked out and I always remember it driving like a cloud and watching top gear and sky sports on freeview that was the best media center they ever did. thing was a absolute weapon though and he drove it like it was a 1987 land rover
They should have released the R8 with this engine, the prototype was amazing. Technology moves fast though, and the current 4.0 TDI is actually faster in the Tuareg with a 0-62 of 4.9 seconds
Germans, love the diesel. Hence why since the end of WW2, they are climbing up to be the most advanced diesel in the world. So much love in fact, that they had to fake the emissions on their diesel. But before they faking the emissions, they build, as you said Mike, world beating diesels. And I, being a 21 y.o boy who currently studying in mechanical engineering, I very excited about diesels, even the new one. Petrol? I kind of like but I'm not that excited, or even electric, I'm not that interested as my interest to diesels.
Wife had the Q7 for long trips here in perth (aust) the 5hr trip down south was piss easy 👌👌 total dream to drive pass road trains the 1000nms was well used id tell ya ahahahahaah
We like those cars with some better specifications than a usual neighbor car. Thankfully your arena does some monster trucking 1:45 for you to be haunted by a memory of Moterų Ralis. Some public transport traffic is too difficult 6:30.
While talking engines, since you mentioned Mercedes, they had those crazy torque limited engines too. But I actually wonder what the status is of the supposed Diesotto engine, a petrol engine without spark plugs. Perhaps you could do a deep dive in that one day.
When Jeremy Clarkson reviewed this thing, he said it completely defeated the purpose of diesel because it was "like turning your central heating off to save money, and then keeping warm... by burning Rembrandts" 🤣
I've had two TDI's here in the us. An A8 TDI and my current A6 TDI. Not much like the new eTron or petrol powered versions. Too much piano black, and especially now no wood trim. Seem cheap to me and I HATE touch screens. The I love my MMI interface, don't have to look away from the road at all.
If they had put the V12 Diesel into an R8, it would have been funny. I´ve never driven a Q7, but I have driven a 5 cylinder 2.4 JTDm Alfa Romeo and a 2.0TDI VW and the funny thing about those diesel engines, is how the boost kicks in! You suddenly have this massive amount of power making you leap forward, even with just 175/140 hp. So I can only imagine what that V12 is doing, when you floor it.
I would like to see this v12 in the audi a5 of the same year, really! my dad`s a5 3.0 tdi its already very fun with a repro, almost 300hp and 600 of torque...
RS6 C6 had the same circumstances around sales and availability. It does also have the same quality feel as the Q7 V12, some tech is shared. Both are future collector cars with low production numbers.
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Some ships disagree to "the most powerful diesel engine"...Some tanks as well...
@Drivetribe 3:08 Is there a scanner you can advertise that doesn't have an annual payment like Carly? From their website: "The Carly licenses are an annual payment"
So I'm an Audi mechanic. They took one of these in on trade a couple years ago with 56,220 miles for 16k. I bought it for $18,760. I welded new end tanks on a 4 inch thick mishimoto intercooler core. It was from my sn95 mustang drift car before I went n/a with a 400ci small block ford sprint car engine that makes 840hp. Put larger injectors in, upgraded pressure pump, fiddled with the waste gates, built my own aluminum charge piping and exhaust, tuned it on my buddies dyno with the help of one of my buddies in Deutschland, we got her up to 720 wheel hp and 1204 lb ft. It's a menace to society to be honest. I live in Reno, Nevada so whoever said we didn't get them here is just flat out incorrect. Another thing, I've obviously had the tcu flashed as well but I've got over 100,000 miles and haven't had a single problem.
I'm jealous man, wow. they also sold this car her in South Africa.
wait a minute how? we got the v12 tdi here in the us?
@taidee I love it man. I just took my brothers and parents home in our after our Thanksgiving tonight. My girlfriend was with us too. With 6 people in the car having a conversation I got it up to 145mph before my mom said "does it seem like we're going really fast?" I was like, na momma this ain't fast we're only doing 145. If I lay into the throttle like this.....see NOW we're going fast!
@@patrickharten2293 i own one my brother. So yes.
Holy! That's awesome! I am suprised the transmission and awd system could handle that much torque.
1st gen Q7 design ages like a fine wine
True bro
No it doesn't 🤢
After changing almost 10 cars, we still have the 1st Gen Q7 because of its looks
And while we have the 4.2FSI it’s reliable too
It's a face lift
Not really
The Volkswagen Group had the most varied lineup of engines back in the 2000s for both diesel and petrol cars: from inline 3, 4 and 5 cylinder engines to V6, V8, V10 and V12 engines to VR5 and VR6 engines to W8, W12 and W16 engines. There was even a secret prototype W10 engine that was tested in a BMW M5. The only engine configuration they didn't make was an inline 6 cylinder engine because it was not going to fit in their FWD and AWD cars due to the way they package their engines and their AWD systems that require a transaxle to sit directly between the two front wheels.
I wish they made less engines which are more reliable
Where as bmw had single, twin, triple, four, five, six, eight, ten, twelve and sixteen cylinder road engines
Except first gen Q7 for some odd reason, it has a bit different AWD system than the rest of the Audi lineup, that allowed them to place the engine the same way BMW and Mercedes do it, so that a V12 or Inline 6 could fit.
@@arekb5951they still used a VR6 though...
Yup, but the space for a potential inline 6 was there, unlike in any other Audi
Remember seeing an article on that Q7, the teak and leather was part of the Exclusive pack, a £40,000 option.
I think the article is a TG one "Progress report:Audi Q7 V12 TDI vs Audi SQ7". I'd be choosing the old car all day every day.
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Carly is a scam, don't bother. It's almost impossible to cancel a subscription and the device is useless without one.
There are ways around it 😉😜
Agreed
Agree! I got scammed too and they still took £130 from my bank. Would NEVER recommend it to anyone. It’s the shittest thing ever
I had both the Audi A7 biTurbo Diesel and the Audi S7 petrol and after easily tuning the torque to 900nm in the biTDI I actually preferred the diesel. There was something about being able to cruise up a tall incline hill with very little throttle and it didn't even bother dropping down out of 8th gear most of the time, that just felt actually powerful. So I can only imagine what this V12 version was like 😂
Well tuning would be out of the question without beefing up the gearbox. Torque at the peak was limited from the factory to give the gearbox a fighting chance.
@@SoulTouchMusic93yeah a launch control program can snap its axles
I own one. Drive it around 15k kms per year. Currently close to 300k kms. No major issues with it, however a lot of regular maintenance require dropping the engine, which is costly.
I will never find another car that is as robust and agile in the same time. Also, the fuel economy is not that bad. Usually, cars with similar specs, but with petrol engines get at least 20-30% more fuel usage.
Usually, highway fuel usage is around 12-14 liters/100 km (17-20 mpg).
I own a cayenne second generation model 92A that has the audi 4.2 V8 turbodiesel. And it is chipped to 455hp 950nm torq. 0-100 in 4.5sec. i drive it 4years now and no major mainenance costs. Verry reliable. Fuel consumption is 7-8 liters/100km. And 12liters/100km when you floor it all the time.
Only British footballers bought this car back in the day. And they were notoriously unreliable. And the cars weren't much better.
yeah, i think thats one of the reasons they made the r8 into a v10 petrol.
It’s too bad that the concept did not gain traction in the R8 - pun intended. It would have been nice to have a turbodiesel engine in the R8 while Audi were dominating Endurance Racing.
Oh, well… 🤷🏽♂️
But it had Le Mans cars engine....
Untrue there is an R8 v12 diesel but very few of them made it to production @@bollemann2582
I don’t think anyone in this comment section understood the joke 😂
I remember the year 2009 a house being built in my neighborhood, once it was finished I rode by it in my bike and there I saw a white Q7 with the lettering V12 on its boot. I was in absolute shock and awe. Not by the fact that it was a diesel V12 but a V12 in an SUV...
I remember my father getting a Q7 As a rental car for a work trip back around 2008 I think. He took me in it on the Autobahn to visit my grandmother who was in hospital in another town at that time. It felt very powerfull and went very fast on a mostly unrestricted Autobahn :) I was actually quite scared on the way back, because it was fast and my dad took full advantage of the car and the fuel payed for by the company
We just imported a 2nd gen of the v12 TDI Q7 at our shop in Ontario. It was imported from Germany. With just a dpf, cat, EGR and scr delete it's been flawless. Over the summer we usually used our 2500 Ram high output 6.7 Cummins to tow our race trailer. While that was getting the "emissions" system worked on we used the Q7. It worked amazing!
I’m halfway in the video and no honourable mention to the 5.0 V10 diesel that was also in the Toureg/VW stable.
(PS I know it’s not the best engine but it’s still an interesting engine and a V10)
This is what I was looking for also. Not sure which is more reliable, neither have the best reputation. Those Toureg torque numbers have made me want one since they came out, I just don't want to pay to maintain and repair a VW.
The V10 is a beast as well torque is massive
@@branscosetvery unreliable, and VW service centres needed special hoists for these cars.
I had one of those v10s touareg. Everything broke on it. I had to drop the engine to replace power steering pump, later I had to drop the engine again to replace leaking turbos, half if the engine had to be reisembled to replace glow plugs which failed within a year, carbon buildup was crazy on in in 40k, water pump faild within 50k. I broke driveshaft, probably 4x, and of course, airbag shocks failed multiple times. The times it worked, it was a great car, but it was in the garage on a hoist, probably 1/3 of the time
6:04 mistermaxwell how ironic
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@@dipsan95he lost his job. Has his own channel.
@@dipsan95he has a channel where he explains what happened
Kimi Räikkönen had a Audi Q7 V12 TDI based in his home in Finland.
I missed buying a 50k km Q7 V12 TDI three years back. Was only 12k euros😂
At its place I have a Porsche Cayenne S V8 diesel
You have to wonder why it was only 12000 euros😂
@wheelspin10 it actually has no place in our local market, otherwise it was a clean car with full dealer service history and no accidents.
12 only? Whoaa
A neighbour had one, I was in love with it. He did give me a couple rides in it too. He was the friendli3st drug dealer you ll ever meet lol
I live in Brazil and Q7s here are very rare. The few old ones remaining are sold for like 4-digit amounts (in dollars). I own a 2013 VW Touareg 4.2 V8, which has a petrol engine by Audi btw, and that thing is so cool that I can only imagine how a V12 TDi must be!
R8 was supposed to have that engine but was too big and no gearbox could support it. Darkside Development is putting a v12 TDI in a VW Amarok with a manual.
Audi could have simply offered a V12 Diesel in the R8 with a sole offering of a Manual Transmission.
@@ParissaKhoury there was no manual gearbox that could handle the torque
I also heard that Bugatti was scared it would outperform their Veyron...
@@luisla5269🤣🤣🤣🤣
16:53 The 120 degree engine angle greatly helps balancing, allowing you to rev higher. The “Hot V” set up he mentions shortens the exhaust length into the turbo allowing for increased responsiveness and easier packaging.
Audi have made some amazing diesels. Last week I was up and down the country twice in a 4wd DSG 184hp torque monster and at "fast road " speed it returned 50mpg. What a machine!
try manual vw or audi diesels they work way better
@@laikiuxcs2servers I hear you. My other vehicle is a 6 speed manual 2.5Tdi 5 cylinder VW Transporter Shuttle with 120,00 miles on the clock and it's still on its original clutch!
7:36 doing WHAT ON THE RACE TRACK
I was at all of the Le Mans 24hr the R18 entered and 2 or 3 or the Spa 6hr races. Those things cornered like they were on rails. Stuck to the road so much better than anything else on the track at the time. And they were so quiet it was like a gust of wind fizzing by. If you weren't paying attention you'd miss them and have to wait for them to come around again. They were incredible race cars
I own 2004 Audi A4 Avant 1.9 TDI with 540 000km on the clock and still runs beautifully. The torque is incredible from that tiny motor. It's 6 speed manual. And they drinks so little of diesel. Very very reliable wagon! Audi does a brilliant job on diesels.
Nice predator moustache
Needs the Dharma glasses to finish it off.
@@HeartFeltGesture little by little he's getting there
Clarkson will soon take care of his moustache
Legendary V12 diesel, just a monster machine, this is the engine I would love to see in VW Amarok ❤❤❤❤
Look up darkside developments they're doing exactly that with a manual gearbox
Audi South Africa only brought in 30x of the Q7 V12 TDI's. I worked for Audi in sales for many years, and have only seen 2x of them ever. (One at the dealer, another on the road)
I'm interested in getting one, currently running 1.9 AVF ... I need me a V12 then gotta buy back my S4 Avant
@@CostaMokolaI own 2004 Audi A4 Avant 1.9 TDI with 540 000km.... Lovely torque. And I'm from South Africa
@matthewdutoit I just took mine in to get some headwork done it's been 2 months now I'm anxious to get it back, I went to TPH to get headbolts and a 3 notch elring head gasket from goldwagen. I just wanna get some extra juice out of mine.. these engines are great!
@@CostaMokola the turbo needs to be recon. And some issues to be sorted out. I bought her October 2023 with those issues. The car was previously owned by sales rep.
I always said, back before I was a builder and was a lowly vw mechanic, that diesel, with its insane torque, only needed to be paired with the right gearbox and turbo and they could be unbelievably quick. Maybe not 0 to 60 amazing but having relentless pull, you could have a car that goes from 50 to 90 in 2 seconds!
Diesel's should be providing far more smiles than they currently do!
That's interesting 😮. To your knowledge, has anyone tried to pair it with a new ZF torque converter or DCT? That would be awesome!
The Q7 and Touareg big TDIs were insane. I'd love to have the Touareg since the Q7 didn't make it here, but I already have enough old German cars fighting for the pennies in my bank account.
This is why i used to love Audi - they used to desing and put insane engines in cars which shouldn't be having such engines. V12 diesel in a SUV, twin-turbo V10 in a family estate... You simply won't see anything like that again. I loved the philosphy Audi had from the 1980s up until 2009. They took big risks and made unassuming cars with exciting engines. Now they are just like a design house and haven't put a proper engine in a car for 15 years (with the exception of the 3.0TFSI, which also dates back to 2009).
My Scania V8 has 620hp and 2800nm torque
Yeah ? It's not a car? There is many 5000+ hp diesels in boats.
Common rail is still direct injection.
Mike had no idea where he talks about 🤦♂️ pre chamber diesel is like 1980s stuff direct injection diesel is nothing special.
Peugeot 908 HDI was also a awesome LMP race car
Here in the US, you could get the VW Toureg with the the V10 tdi diesel.
The Q7 got the 4.2 petrol V8
The same here in Brazil, but V10 TDi are so rare that I guess less than 5 cars were brought here. I have a VW Touareg 4.2 V8 petrol engine that is 1 of 500 in the country
@@amiltonfcjuniorLol petrol V8 Q7/Tuaregs are worthless in Europe.
21:03 'Why not?' Because the rulebook doesn't allow it
And it would get absolutely stomped, just like the diesels did at Le Mans when the rules were no longer skewed in favor of the diesels.
Will most definitely approve of a twin turbo diesel in Audi's F1 car!
Whats with the Pdf file mustache lol
Movember is coming
Ive got a Bi turbo a6 and nothing for 10k can match how much fun the pure pace, and versatility that a 4wd car can give you for the price range, 0-60 in 5 seconds for an estate car is just mental, it was peak engineering, will never get that anymore
That BiTDI engine was a beast. Also, a very mild map could make it even more so. And with a decent exhaust, they sound epic.
I had the single turbo 3.0 V6 with the DSG gearbox, it's a much nicer drive than the BiTurbo, which my partner has. When you get out of one and straight in the other you realise just how much better the 7speed twin clutch is. The BiTurbo sounds better though, that's undeniable.
@@alistairmscott Yeah thats fair enough, the gearbox is abit interesting on the a6 i must admit
@@OGMehrinWell a 535d F10/11 is much more dynamic than the understeer Audi boat.
I had an A6 C7 allroad BiTdi for 5 or 6 years. Fantastic car. As you say 0 - 60 was 5ish (or sligtly less) and the overtaking pace was brilliant -say 40 - 70. All of that performance and a great sound (always had my exhaust set to dynamic / sports mode) and 45MPG +
What a gorgeous machine, definitely one of my dream vehicles.
If you were in an Audi executive back in 2006, you’d be hoping that you weren’t gonna get caught for their new “cheating on emissions” technology lol
The Q7 V12 never would have caught on here in the US because we have crew cab HD trucks. The equivalent of this Q7 in 2024 is the Ford F250 h.o. Platinum. With 500hp and 1200 lb/ft of torque (1600 nm), it’s very nearly as fast as this Q7 from 0-60. It costs $100,000. And on massive US roads it probably feels about the same size as the Q7 feels on tiny British roads. Plenty of luxury, tech, and space for your whole family.
Q7 is more car-like: better handling and comfort
@@johnnyj3498Its also a useless SUV.
Really interesting vehicle, especially since the new Q7 55 does 0-60 in the same time, and that the new SQ7 does it in 4 seconds. Also really interesting how the 1st gen Touareg had a V10, which Fifth Gear used to tow a 747 with
You guys have really picked up the torch from the TG lads for UK driving entertainment. Top stuff, mate. Love Audis me.
Amazing that this is free. Thanks!
And we have Ferdinand Piech to thank for these insane builds coming out of this era of VWAG. Iconic
Audi make great diesel engines, and great cars in general, got over 175k on mine 200hp tdi 2.0 and it goes well a d reliable, when it gives up ill gett another in a heartbeat
Same here i have b 8.5 tdi and love it to bits :)
Mines the b8
@@northernirishviking7283Shame its not an Audi engine, you just have a Passat with lipstick.
Lololol this day and age are we surprised haha, still great motors though
Mine is B6 1.9 TDI with 540 000km
I love my '04 VW Touareg V10, but the V12 Q7 is one of those vehicles that I wish I could get my hands on here in Canada.
Why is there a caterpillar on your upper lip?
Movember coming up
I was thinking something similar
Always wanted to do a pair of V12s in marine form. Those in an offshore race boat, running surface drives would be a great long ranger.
Ther was a limited edition too. Patrick Hellman 111 ever made. Back in the day it was something like 250k in dollars. It had such features like crocodile lether... Creazy money.
In South Africa Im aware of two v12 TDI's .... what a car
Saw one... Silver V12.... I said what! A V12 diesel in SUV.... Impressive! I'm from South Africa
I work in Surrey, so I saw a few of these on the school run, sometimes with up to 2 children.
So, you know, can't knock the practicality.
Ive drove an R18, i mean it was on Gran Tourismo but you're not taking this away from me 😂😂😂
Well they got my family in to TDI here in America. But we never got the Q7 V12 TDI lol. Only the Touareg with the V10 TDI and that’s it
Audi should make a diesel road going supercar, or better yet, hyper car. Diesel is world beating, right.
Someone once said: "you dont race the opponents, you race the regulations"
The only reason diesel audi was winning were the regulations of ammount of fuel in a tank and not ammount of energy in the tank.
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Nontheless, I love diesel.
Absolutely stonking SUV. The race cars were incredible too. Such a shame they never made the R8 diesel. That would have been an absolute monster for the road
This is one of y'alls best vids. Awesome some.
This car was the highlight of my driving years to Clarkson and one and all. I actually delivered this very press car to EVO , back in the day. It was actually for Jethro , If I'm not mistaken.
I was younger back then and glanced at these crazy VAG projects initiated by Piech that blew everything away. Only years later I learned how expensive everyone of these projects had to be. Today a VW car with more than three engine choices and more than four real buttons per vehicle seems to be forbidden, costsaving for the race to the bottom...
Dont even get me started on the UX hell they created for themselfs since the MK8 Golf....
On one hand, a diesel seems to be the logical choice for a big euro SUV, On the other hand, there was no way these big TDI´s would have met modern emissions, the 2.0 TDI had problems with that and got stopped by Dieselgate. Even the A8 lost its V8TDI option in 2020...
Loved that - thanks
That wood option was INSANELY expensive!!+
Have a Luke at it. Just Luke at it.
Ironically this car failed to make it to the US and the EPA banned diesel engines a decade later.
I drove one a few times , and couldn’t resist doing a standing 0-100 kph blast, it was brutal and put my back out . 😂
Loving these videos
Wish I could give two thumbs up!
This is the diesel everyone should talk about
Super video 👌🏻 I❤️LeMans🏁😎
This example was fitted with the 'exclusive' options package (Totalling 45k itself apparently) and was a concept car to show it off. That's why I think it's in Audi UK's press office. I even think it's one of one.
lawd I wish my old boss had more patience, he ended up getting the V8 and not waiting the 4-5 months it would have took to get the V12.
but the V8 he got was decked out and I always remember it driving like a cloud and watching top gear and sky sports on freeview that was the best media center they ever did.
thing was a absolute weapon though and he drove it like it was a 1987 land rover
Love my 2009 Q7 4.2 tdi , so far 74,000 miles always towing a 3 ton trailer
Love these vids on unusual engines.
You gonna do one on the VW VR5 engines?
Ive had two both in SEAT toledos one a 10v the second a 20v.
They should have released the R8 with this engine, the prototype was amazing. Technology moves fast though, and the current 4.0 TDI is actually faster in the Tuareg with a 0-62 of 4.9 seconds
Imma need that Fuel of Satan graphic as a sticker. It needs to adorn my Porsche Cayenne diesel.
Thanks. I've never seen the v12 just the v10. It's a shame neither of those engines are no longer produced.
You never seen a V10 Q7 because they never made one.
The irony is that diesel is and continues to be cool in the USA. Diesel trucks are tremendously popular in the USA.
The R8 diesel would have been so cool
There’s a Q7 V12 that lives in my village, has such a road presence
Mike mustache is coming in nicely 😂
He's in a Village People tribute band!
Germans, love the diesel. Hence why since the end of WW2, they are climbing up to be the most advanced diesel in the world. So much love in fact, that they had to fake the emissions on their diesel. But before they faking the emissions, they build, as you said Mike, world beating diesels.
And I, being a 21 y.o boy who currently studying in mechanical engineering, I very excited about diesels, even the new one. Petrol? I kind of like but I'm not that excited, or even electric, I'm not that interested as my interest to diesels.
I love my TDI but after 5 DPFs in 30k miles the pothole technology look so much better
Got a Peugeot hdi and the EGR / pdf annoyed me at 300 k km
Just delete and tune.
Wife had the Q7 for long trips here in perth (aust) the 5hr trip down south was piss easy 👌👌 total dream to drive pass road trains the 1000nms was well used id tell ya ahahahahaah
Let's play spot the caterpillar..😂
Wow 😮 cool engine for a build 🤔
I'm using the mercedes m120 V12 for my supercar project 😎
M120 is my favourite engine. What you building?
@pearsy85 Hey, I am building my own one off V12 supercar that I designed 👍 Im building a car to give me the Zonda driving experience 😎
We like those cars with some better specifications than a usual neighbor car. Thankfully your arena does some monster trucking 1:45 for you to be haunted by a memory of Moterų Ralis. Some public transport traffic is too difficult 6:30.
While talking engines, since you mentioned Mercedes, they had those crazy torque limited engines too. But I actually wonder what the status is of the supposed Diesotto engine, a petrol engine without spark plugs. Perhaps you could do a deep dive in that one day.
When Jeremy Clarkson reviewed this thing, he said it completely defeated the purpose of diesel because it was "like turning your central heating off to save money, and then keeping warm... by burning Rembrandts"
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I’d love to see content with the R8 that had this V12 diesel engine … not sure if it was only stateside..
I've had two TDI's here in the us. An A8 TDI and my current A6 TDI. Not much like the new eTron or petrol powered versions. Too much piano black, and especially now no wood trim. Seem cheap to me and I HATE touch screens. The I love my MMI interface, don't have to look away from the road at all.
Audi! 6.0 liter! 500bhp! v12! diesel!
I almost broke my flippin screen clicking on this dang vidgya!
If they had put the V12 Diesel into an R8, it would have been funny. I´ve never driven a Q7, but I have driven a 5 cylinder 2.4 JTDm Alfa Romeo and a 2.0TDI VW and the funny thing about those diesel engines, is how the boost kicks in! You suddenly have this massive amount of power making you leap forward, even with just 175/140 hp. So I can only imagine what that V12 is doing, when you floor it.
RS8 doesnt exist.
@@hexagonosaurus5848 Oh lol, I meant R8 xD
I would like to see this v12 in the audi a5 of the same year, really! my dad`s a5 3.0 tdi its already very fun with a repro, almost 300hp and 600 of torque...
The sound mixing on drivetribe's last few videos have been really lacking lately... Sometimes i can't even continue watching
Remarkeble car and ingine ❤❤❤
I had an A6 station with the 3L Bi-Turbo diesel...
Chip tuned and it was a beast.
I just need this engine in an S3 sized car.
Audi should've put it in a 2500 Truck chassis to compete in the US. Ram is getting that much torque out of a straight 6 and its usable as a truck.
They really should have gone with the Diesel Supercar concept.
Could not disagree more the R8 V-12 TDI would have been brilliant.
RS6 C6 had the same circumstances around sales and availability. It does also have the same quality feel as the Q7 V12, some tech is shared. Both are future collector cars with low production numbers.