Good looking sets. I've used a FAT wrench for years, it's nice to see it coming in a complete kit. That space saver is ideal for the range/ shooting bag.
Just an FYI...., everytime one "double checks" torque value of a fastener it increases final torque reading (as taught by USAF instructors re: aircraft maintenance practices). Personally I like to hit lower to middle of road values, lightly strike caps with plastic handle of a screwdriver (to release thread tension), then after 5 minutes lightly tap caps again and give fasteners "final" torque application (at last setting).
I have the old version of their largest set, I've been using it regularly for about 10 years now and it is still going strong. What is most impressive is that the majority of that work has been on old milsurps, often with screws that haven't moved in many decades and are sometimes rusty. I bent one bit, one of the really small ones on a rusted Carcano Cavalry carbine rear sight base screw that is completely locked in place. It has such a small head and needs so much force, there was really no chance for that tiny, thin bit and it bent while trying to remove that screw. Other than that one bit it's all still in great shape. I've been really happy with it especially when you compare what it would cost to get all those bits from other name brands. I also have the Fat wrench and several other Wheeler tools. I like that they put actual latches on these cases. It's a miracle I've never dropped my set and sent bits flying everywhere (SO FAR). I have the old Winchester set for the range bag, it's a similar kit to that space saver one from Wheeler.
I love Wheeler. The FAT Stix are awesome. You're never too old to learn a new trick. Using flat stock in checking your level was not in my toolbox, but it will be. Thanks, Gavin!
I'm an ol school kind of guy that's been using Chapman for years. HOWEVER, I like the fat wrench and I'd like to get my hands on one of those sets. Might have to pick up the hex torx set to check it out. Good video.
yes I do use wheeler tools, the boxes they come in are great, easy to keep organized. The tools themselves are pretty good, they make a tool for almost any situation. Always comment for the algorithm
Nice sets I'm a organization freak so these are real nice I'll check them out and replace my old set and just keep my old one in the truck for when I'm hunting or at the range.
I wish the small driver from the second set was included in the gun smithing set and the fat wrench set. I mount optics every day working for a major gun shop and really enjoy doing it. I’ve found using a small driver to get everything going and finger tight is most efficient and comfortable. Then use the fat wrench to torque everything. I’ll most likely be getting the second set and the fat wrench set just to have what suits me best for my home gun work bench set up. Thanks for the detailed review!
Ideally I have bought hole sets several times because I lose 2 or 3 most used bits or some part of the box breaks such as a hinge or acid if a co.pany made it so you could re place a peace or a box by simple contact and a credit card would be worth alot.
Just got their digital torque wrench not sure is a like it over a standard torque wrench. It’s good quality stuff just used to the snap not a beeping noise and no click over
I use a lot of Wheeler tools, the only one that's ever had a problem is the Digital Fat Wrench. It never worked right out of the box, my standard Fat Wrench has performed awesome for years. Time to get that FAT kit for the bench and put my orginal one in the range box.
Just getting into things here. Am I to understand that the FAT wrench set should a a pretty well versed set for beginning needs of working on firearms? Thanks for the video and help!
Wheeler 30pc torx hex p-handle set bought it a year ago. Size wears off wrenches and the bench stand sucks because the handles overhang each other so you cant pull them out without removing 2 above it......old box of bits is impossible to open too. Should send me out the new box
Wheeler needs to offer laser etched tips. My Wera drivers have come in handy for stuck or worn old screw heads. The laser etching really bites into the screw head.
I have several Wheeler kits. Most are good quality except the digital fat wrench and the T handle allen wrench set. The wrenches bend easily and come loose from the plastic handle.
Speaking with one scope manufacturer, their warranty dept told me they see alot of scoped returned under warranty, rings over torqued and that wheeler and the fat max are commonly the culprits. I'd be curious to see a test of the fat max to see if it is really withing the range it claims.
During my career in aircraft maintenance (33 years) torque wrenches had to be inspected and certified as accurate annually. Biggest mistake civilians make is not returning wrench to lowest setting after torqueing for storage. And that's LOWEST setting...., NOT below.
I have the basic screwdriver kit from Wheeler, as well as the level-level-level, and their ring alignment/lapping kit. The storage cases look much sturdier now. I must say that I am surprised that you didn't mention the step of checking alignment and potentially lapping rings. I know that probably isn't necessary for your custom-built rifles, but can be for those the average "Joe Lunchbucket" (like me) can afford. I mounted a scope on a Weatherby (Howa) Vanguard SII a couple weeks ago and had to lap the rings to rectify a minor lateral misalignment. I will say that the level-level-level isn't as useful for me as it once was, due to the increase in "fat bolt" rifles. I find myself leveling those via a plum bob approach and leveling the scope across the turret cap. Do yo have any better suggestions for dealing with "fat bolt" rifles?
Surprised you didn't utilize WHEELER's PRO SCOPE KIT. The barrel mounted level attachment allows you to return the platform to level should it move during the process. ARISAKA makes a good jig that squares off the picatinny rail (as long as the optic turret assembly housing has a flat bottom) *be cautious of turret housing pinching jig as tightening caps proceed*.
Thank you for the video. I live in a country where they do not reload the government, starting to change little by little and bring us into a new world now. It has been a fight, and I am an old man trying to teach my friends a better way now and I show them your videos all the time . Thank you and God bless y'all.
I really like my Fat Wrench. My range bag has a Fix It Stick tool kit that is very functional and compact. Was troubled when Wheeler chose to name a product a Fat Stix, not cool.
Yeah I was pretty upset getting the gunsmithing set for Christmas. I already had the compact set and the gunsmith set is pretty much the compact set with 50 more flat heads
I love my Wheeler tools and have a lot of them but I am REALLY disappointed in their customer service. I recently broke on of the little tabs off of a bit in the 89 piece deluxe gunsmithing set, the one for the M1 Garand (124-202). I wrongfully assumed it would be easy to replace it and I'd just buy a few. No one carries replacement bits and the Wheeler parts website looks like it's been abandoned. I emailed their support about buying some or putting me in touch with a company that sells them....that was a month a go, zero response from them. They probably lost me as a customer.
Good looking sets. I've used a FAT wrench for years, it's nice to see it coming in a complete kit. That space saver is ideal for the range/ shooting bag.
Just an FYI...., everytime one "double checks" torque value of a fastener it increases final torque reading (as taught by USAF instructors re: aircraft maintenance practices).
Personally I like to hit lower to middle of road values, lightly strike caps with plastic handle of a screwdriver (to release thread tension), then after 5 minutes lightly tap caps again and give fasteners "final" torque application (at last setting).
The beginning of the video spoke to me. I put together a little glove box tool kit for a cross country RV trip. The first time I used it was in Moab.
I have the old version of their largest set, I've been using it regularly for about 10 years now and it is still going strong. What is most impressive is that the majority of that work has been on old milsurps, often with screws that haven't moved in many decades and are sometimes rusty. I bent one bit, one of the really small ones on a rusted Carcano Cavalry carbine rear sight base screw that is completely locked in place. It has such a small head and needs so much force, there was really no chance for that tiny, thin bit and it bent while trying to remove that screw. Other than that one bit it's all still in great shape. I've been really happy with it especially when you compare what it would cost to get all those bits from other name brands. I also have the Fat wrench and several other Wheeler tools.
I like that they put actual latches on these cases. It's a miracle I've never dropped my set and sent bits flying everywhere (SO FAR). I have the old Winchester set for the range bag, it's a similar kit to that space saver one from Wheeler.
I love Wheeler. The FAT Stix are awesome. You're never too old to learn a new trick. Using flat stock in checking your level was not in my toolbox, but it will be. Thanks, Gavin!
Wheeler has been my "go to" for years. Nice to see the improved cases and configurations.
I'm an ol school kind of guy that's been using Chapman for years. HOWEVER, I like the fat wrench and I'd like to get my hands on one of those sets. Might have to pick up the hex torx set to check it out. Good video.
yes I do use wheeler tools, the boxes they come in are great, easy to keep organized. The tools themselves are pretty good, they make a tool for almost any situation. Always comment for the algorithm
I have the scope mount, pro gunsmith set, fat wrench and the new torque set. Great products. Glad the fixed that box. Hate the closure on the boxes.
Nice sets I'm a organization freak so these are real nice I'll check them out and replace my old set and just keep my old one in the truck for when I'm hunting or at the range.
Was about to order an AMP Mk2, I am now waiting for the Mk2 DB to release. I am interested in the RAMP as well
I really like that Spacesaver kit. Could see taking that to hunting camp to help with firearms maintenance.
That second set should be marketed as a knife and gun set. Them smaller sizes and smaller driver handle are perfect for doing knife maintenance.
Literally purchased the large pro kit this morning.
I wish the small driver from the second set was included in the gun smithing set and the fat wrench set. I mount optics every day working for a major gun shop and really enjoy doing it. I’ve found using a small driver to get everything going and finger tight is most efficient and comfortable. Then use the fat wrench to torque everything. I’ll most likely be getting the second set and the fat wrench set just to have what suits me best for my home gun work bench set up. Thanks for the detailed review!
I have the WHeeler scope mounting kit from 3 years ago
Good stuff Gavin! ❤
Also magnetic bits to hold those small screws while installing them. And we're is the torque wrench in all but the portable or may beall of them
Ideally I have bought hole sets several times because I lose 2 or 3 most used bits or some part of the box breaks such as a hinge or acid if a co.pany made it so you could re place a peace or a box by simple contact and a credit card would be worth alot.
I didn’t get much for Christmas this year and that’s the one thing I ask for. Going shopping lol 😎
Nice tool kits of course I just bought them 6 months ago, O well my antiques work great
Use the Wheeler scope mounting tools and FAT. Still like my Snap-on ratcheting screw driver, best tactile feel for a screwdriver.
Just got their digital torque wrench not sure is a like it over a standard torque wrench. It’s good quality stuff just used to the snap not a beeping noise and no click over
I use a lot of Wheeler tools, the only one that's ever had a problem is the Digital Fat Wrench. It never worked right out of the box, my standard Fat Wrench has performed awesome for years. Time to get that FAT kit for the bench and put my orginal one in the range box.
Just getting into things here. Am I to understand that the FAT wrench set should a a pretty well versed set for beginning needs of working on firearms? Thanks for the video and help!
Wheeler 30pc torx hex p-handle set bought it a year ago. Size wears off wrenches and the bench stand sucks because the handles overhang each other so you cant pull them out without removing 2 above it......old box of bits is impossible to open too. Should send me out the new box
I've got some older Wheeler stuff, but my screwdriver sets are Pacymar.
Happy New Year 🤗
Wheeler needs to offer laser etched tips. My Wera drivers have come in handy for stuck or worn old screw heads. The laser etching really bites into the screw head.
I have several Wheeler kits. Most are good quality except the digital fat wrench and the T handle allen wrench set. The wrenches bend easily and come loose from the plastic handle.
The digital fat wrench is great, for the price of that fat wrench kit you'd think they would've included the digital version.
I love the Wheeler brand of Fit it sticks....
Good video.. !!! I am assuming the the Gunsmithing on you are describing is the 89 piece ?
I've heard that, never use your torque sdrew driver to unscrew.
Are the front latches like hinges or this kind that breaks after time 🤔
The only complaint I have for my Wheeler torque wrench is the packaging, which is just good enough. They made the upgrade in the right area.
Still looking forward to the f class build
Also can we get a follow up on the ELR rig? How's that going?
Are they the same exact quality material and manufacturing of the bits in all four sets
Where are they made?
Not seen them in the U.K. Would like to check them out
Interesting. But how do you know the scope Reticles are level?
Speaking with one scope manufacturer, their warranty dept told me they see alot of scoped returned under warranty, rings over torqued and that wheeler and the fat max are commonly the culprits. I'd be curious to see a test of the fat max to see if it is really withing the range it claims.
During my career in aircraft maintenance (33 years) torque wrenches had to be inspected and certified as accurate annually.
Biggest mistake civilians make is not returning wrench to lowest setting after torqueing for storage. And that's LOWEST setting...., NOT below.
I’d like to see that test result too. I use digital and haven’t felt comfortable.
Wheeler needs to have an upgrade program where we send in our older kit and get a hefty percentage off the new kits.
Fruit of the loom should have a similar deal for underwear.
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I have the basic screwdriver kit from Wheeler, as well as the level-level-level, and their ring alignment/lapping kit. The storage cases look much sturdier now. I must say that I am surprised that you didn't mention the step of checking alignment and potentially lapping rings. I know that probably isn't necessary for your custom-built rifles, but can be for those the average "Joe Lunchbucket" (like me) can afford. I mounted a scope on a Weatherby (Howa) Vanguard SII a couple weeks ago and had to lap the rings to rectify a minor lateral misalignment.
I will say that the level-level-level isn't as useful for me as it once was, due to the increase in "fat bolt" rifles. I find myself leveling those via a plum bob approach and leveling the scope across the turret cap. Do yo have any better suggestions for dealing with "fat bolt" rifles?
Surprised you didn't utilize WHEELER's PRO SCOPE KIT.
The barrel mounted level attachment allows you to return the platform to level should it move during the process.
ARISAKA makes a good jig that squares off the picatinny rail (as long as the optic turret assembly housing has a flat bottom) *be cautious of turret housing pinching jig as tightening caps proceed*.
Thank you for the video. I live in a country where they do not reload the government, starting to change little by little and bring us into a new world now.
It has been a fight, and I am an old man trying to teach my friends a better way now and I show them your videos all the time . Thank you and God bless y'all.
Answering a problem I didn’t have. But, so MANY straight bits? I do like case quality though.
You want a gunsmith kit, all the older stuff has straight bit heads.
A pity, no complete set. The biggest set doesnt have all the specialty bits and no bubble level to mount the scope.
So whats the prices on these?
I really like my Fat Wrench. My range bag has a Fix It Stick tool kit that is very functional and compact. Was troubled when Wheeler chose to name a product a Fat Stix, not cool.
Their t-handle Allen wrenches are made of chinesium. That much I know.
I use most of them
54 flat bits is crazy to me.
Not when working on older guns, it's not.
Yeah I was pretty upset getting the gunsmithing set for Christmas. I already had the compact set and the gunsmith set is pretty much the compact set with 50 more flat heads
What country are they made in?
China
I still have Chapman kits and Bonanza/Forster screwdrivers, the Wheeler stuff I have, doesn't hold up to it.
The Wheeler kit should have come with the torque driver long ago instead of a long and short screw driver.
I love my Wheeler tools and have a lot of them but I am REALLY disappointed in their customer service. I recently broke on of the little tabs off of a bit in the 89 piece deluxe gunsmithing set, the one for the M1 Garand (124-202). I wrongfully assumed it would be easy to replace it and I'd just buy a few. No one carries replacement bits and the Wheeler parts website looks like it's been abandoned. I emailed their support about buying some or putting me in touch with a company that sells them....that was a month a go, zero response from them. They probably lost me as a customer.
I have 2 gunsmithing toolkits. I'll be upgrading to the new one if only for the new case. The old cases are annoying.
So why would I buy an overpriced tool kit for standard tools you can get literally everywhere?
Lots of fun spec tools. Hollow ground screws for an example.
Lots of gun spec tools. Hollow ground screws for an example.
Lots of gun spec tools. Hollow ground screws for an example.
Lots of gun spec tools. Hollow ground screws for an example.
Lots of gun spec tools. Hollow ground screws for an example.
Bro, its okay, you can say it, fat
Their bubble levels are garbage. Not going to waste my money on anything else from them.
So nothing really new...