You absolute bloody legend. I know exactly how much of an undertaking this was. It's not just gameplay, but the scripting and editing that's the real challenge with these 1 hour+ videos. Congratulations and thank you for avenging poor Yelwonkk.
It's amusing seeing the enemies just pop out of existence when they die. XD It's a complete opposite to Knowley's runs where he tends to bump up the enemy corpse count to absurd levels and just wade through the carnage he creates during the loud heists.
48:54 can't you wait in the first building till at least one of the jokers dies so that you can work with at least one convert in the second building once you get there?
No. I am not allowed to Shoot, that includes Grenade Launchers, Crossbows, Flamethrowers and so on. I am not allowed to shoot anything, the only thing I am allowed to use are Tools aka the OVE9000 Saw.
C4 in air? That's tame compared to playing No Mercy at literally 3 AM as I've encountered multiple bugs like: Somehow locking the heist into stealth despite the countdown and despite the guards best efforts, hell they spotted me and I killed em. Afterwards they respawned, ignoring the corpses after changing to scrubs and murdering civs and then we soft locked the mission. Another one was the bots not getting into the elevator, breaking the illusion of the elevator completely, especially when my friend got out at a micro second of the bots arriving. Also it's definitely not as cursed as the safehouse. Apparently client side, they can see an interactive skylight while host cant even interact with it, they can snort all of Jimmy's cocaine and finally, the least expected one and probably a hint to some cut content at some point, the client side can also pick up a chainsaw from Jacket's room and it's a tool with its own icon. It's weird.
That first glitch you mentioned, the no mercy one, I've had that happen in a public lobby, I think that heist has gone to shit after the last few updates, could be an engine thing.
Actually you dont need Jokers for Panic room, Fully Loaded aced gives you ability to pick up trowables from ammo drops (or at least I think). Then just habe good aim and you can kill al the snipers.
@@joleneclancy8437 Thats true, but I think when KKnowley did it, they were not in the game. My method was possible even back then, again I think, I tried coming up with something KKnowley could have used. But yeah, Ace of spades are a option toom probably the easy one.
Definitive runkiller is panic room. Snipers you need to kill are spawned which will probably melt you, and you need to take them out to progress the heist Could be even eariler though.
It depends on your definition of pacifist. 0 kills? Almost certain that's impossible, given that there are certain people you MUST kill to progress (Ernesto Sosa, Hector, the commissar, I think the biker boss is mandatory as well, etc.) Now, if you mean something like DarkViperAU's pacifist run of GTA V, where you try to finish with the least amount of kills possible, I honestly think it is doable. Might be a pain in the ass on the highest difficulty but just finishing the career without that requirement, I've thought about it a lot. You'd need a perk deck that doesn't require doing damage to function, I'd imagine Stoic would be the best option there. The Biker Heist day 1 would be a bit of a problem, I think, because if a cop stops the mechanic, you don't have a way to free him without killing them (bear in mind my version of the challenge bans jokers and team AI because... well, if you're not playing on the hardest difficulty, I think that would be pretty easy.) Shockproof would be a must as early as possible, like most of these challenges. I think someone could pull it off, honestly.
I know you said why you didnt want to use the katana but you really missed out on hit rate without that. When you time it right you wont get the animation for pulling out your actual weapon, i use that on a DMR saw infiltrator build on DW and sometimes do my most kills with the Katana just because it works so well
To anyone wanting to know why the saws didn’t let fully loaded aced occur, ammo bags only pickup if one of your 2 weapons isnt on full ammo, even if you can replenish throwables Its pretty dumb.
agreed, I shot out of anger but restarted anyway so I see no issue with it, I was going to restart before the shot anyway because I failed the stealth. I guess it just doesn't look like that, or feels weird when you watch it.
@@unclegeldgeil oh, no, of course we all know that you shot out of frustration and restarted anyways, it's just that *technically* you didn't beat payday 2 without shooting. But for all intents and purposes you did great man, and my comment was going for that tone of 'I'm too literal about everything and really self entitled on the Internet'. Also alternate title suggestion: 'YOU CAN'T beat payday 2 without shooting, but I CAN .'
With the 2nd guard not surrendering in the tutorial. Pretty sure it's because you killed the first guard. Think if you dominate or kill a cop you can't dominate guards for like 4 minutes
You can dominate cops in stealth up to 8. Killing just triggers cops to shoot upon detection for a set amount of time. Even this video has an example for this happening in the diamond store.
@@Bay1kkilling is not what triggers guards to shoot. You can actually kill guards as long as 3 different possible conditions are not met. 1. if you shoot near the guard and either miss point blank or do not do lethal damage on the first shot and are close enough to the guard for him to HEAR your silenced shot while he is alive 2. If you do non lethal damage from afar so he doesn’t hear your shot BUT you do headshot damage 3. If a guard is alerted by something else and you do any non lethal damage It is fairly complicated and silly but I think it is a really cool mechanic for understanding why guards shoot. Marcmb has a fantastic video on it titled something like “aim is important for stealth”
I feel like there is a loophole to the challenge. It is stated specifically to not fire a BULLET, making weapons like Flamethrowers, grenade launchers, etc. to be viable, for those are not bullets. If not so, then at least flamethrowers would 100% work with this rule.
I guess this is what I get for not explaining the ruleset well, I know it only says "bullet" but I still mean anything that can fire including crossbows, grenade launchers, flamethrowers and so on. This is supposed to be a challenge and being able to use weapons that can fire just ruins it all. I can't use anything that shoots, the only thing I am allowed to use are tools aka the OVE9000 Saw.
@@unclegeldgeil not only panic room but any heist in general considering the bag has four uses giving four times the amount of any throwable per heist, also im glad i could be of any help :)
I actually didn't, it was E the entire time lmao. It wasn't a big issue though, I was used to this melee button for years so it was pretty easy to work with
You absolute bloody legend. I know exactly how much of an undertaking this was. It's not just gameplay, but the scripting and editing that's the real challenge with these 1 hour+ videos. Congratulations and thank you for avenging poor Yelwonkk.
Yelwonkk went through too much pain, he derserved some revenge.
This just proofs that knoley is week...
@@Lo-118 you try it, then
@@kaiyuanchen2107 would do aint got the time. if you pay me tho i would!
@@Lo-118 just like your english
well played sir, deserving of all the clout to come your way
Thank you, I hope this Video does get some attention since I worked like a billion hours on it lmao
Wish I discovered this video sooner, sorry TH-cam decided to recommend this masterpiece to me 7 months later
Meanwhile TH-cam recommend this to me a year and five months later.
It's amusing seeing the enemies just pop out of existence when they die. XD
It's a complete opposite to Knowley's runs where he tends to bump up the enemy corpse count to absurd levels and just wade through the carnage he creates during the loud heists.
48:54 can't you wait in the first building till at least one of the jokers dies so that you can work with at least one convert in the second building once you get there?
You don't have to apologize my man, the shier dedication and patience you put in this makes up for the snowballs and the two heists
Ok, now run Overdrill without shooting
"Guys can you please don't shoot"
*Everyone left*
13:46 that transition was clean as fuck
Couldn't you have used bows, and GL/RLs? Those don't fire bullets
No. I am not allowed to Shoot, that includes Grenade Launchers, Crossbows, Flamethrowers and so on. I am not allowed to shoot anything, the only thing I am allowed to use are Tools aka the OVE9000 Saw.
how does this video have 900 views?? it should have way more
Now you got a new item for your portfolio!
C4 in air? That's tame compared to playing No Mercy at literally 3 AM as I've encountered multiple bugs like:
Somehow locking the heist into stealth despite the countdown and despite the guards best efforts, hell they spotted me and I killed em. Afterwards they respawned, ignoring the corpses after changing to scrubs and murdering civs and then we soft locked the mission. Another one was the bots not getting into the elevator, breaking the illusion of the elevator completely, especially when my friend got out at a micro second of the bots arriving. Also it's definitely not as cursed as the safehouse. Apparently client side, they can see an interactive skylight while host cant even interact with it, they can snort all of Jimmy's cocaine and finally, the least expected one and probably a hint to some cut content at some point, the client side can also pick up a chainsaw from Jacket's room and it's a tool with its own icon. It's weird.
That first glitch you mentioned, the no mercy one, I've had that happen in a public lobby, I think that heist has gone to shit after the last few updates, could be an engine thing.
for some reason when I do the loud tutorial, the sniper doesn't spawn, i just stand in the window, idk if that stops the spawn
Actually you dont need Jokers for Panic room, Fully Loaded aced gives you ability to pick up trowables from ammo drops (or at least I think). Then just habe good aim and you can kill al the snipers.
Ace of spades too 21 of them and 15 snipers
@@joleneclancy8437 Thats true, but I think when KKnowley did it, they were not in the game. My method was possible even back then, again I think, I tried coming up with something KKnowley could have used.
But yeah, Ace of spades are a option toom probably the easy one.
The thing is that you can't pick up ammo cause he using saw on both slot he even mentioned it before about using fully loaded
@@kratosgow342 Oh, I didnt heard that.
45:37
Jeez now I wonder if pacifist without bots is possible.
Definitive runkiller is panic room.
Snipers you need to kill are spawned which will probably melt you, and you need to take them out to progress the heist
Could be even eariler though.
@@wildframed2262 jokers maybe?
@@Blucario90 jokers will get stuck on rooftop slaughter. and AI is to stupid to shoot that far
It depends on your definition of pacifist. 0 kills? Almost certain that's impossible, given that there are certain people you MUST kill to progress (Ernesto Sosa, Hector, the commissar, I think the biker boss is mandatory as well, etc.) Now, if you mean something like DarkViperAU's pacifist run of GTA V, where you try to finish with the least amount of kills possible, I honestly think it is doable. Might be a pain in the ass on the highest difficulty but just finishing the career without that requirement, I've thought about it a lot. You'd need a perk deck that doesn't require doing damage to function, I'd imagine Stoic would be the best option there. The Biker Heist day 1 would be a bit of a problem, I think, because if a cop stops the mechanic, you don't have a way to free him without killing them (bear in mind my version of the challenge bans jokers and team AI because... well, if you're not playing on the hardest difficulty, I think that would be pretty easy.) Shockproof would be a must as early as possible, like most of these challenges. I think someone could pull it off, honestly.
runcle at his finest
Well. First world bank stealth as lvl 0 death sentenced is doable so why not with card? XD
Didn't know there was a mod to play Madness Combat music that was used in the series
I know you said why you didnt want to use the katana but you really missed out on hit rate without that. When you time it right you wont get the animation for pulling out your actual weapon, i use that on a DMR saw infiltrator build on DW and sometimes do my most kills with the Katana just because it works so well
49:00 you proved it was possible good enough
You wasted your time on Golden Grin. Money bags don't provide extra XP on that.
"Pain Train" actually sounds like a badass name for Biker Heist day 2
23:34 Incase anyone else came just to hear this
Javelins might have helped with dozer killing.
… If their faceplate is off.
To anyone wanting to know why the saws didn’t let fully loaded aced occur, ammo bags only pickup if one of your 2 weapons isnt on full ammo, even if you can replenish throwables
Its pretty dumb.
This is absolutely amazing shame I'm only seeing it now, good job!
10:13 he shot. Instant fail of challenge.
agreed, I shot out of anger but restarted anyway so I see no issue with it, I was going to restart before the shot anyway because I failed the stealth.
I guess it just doesn't look like that, or feels weird when you watch it.
@@unclegeldgeil oh, no, of course we all know that you shot out of frustration and restarted anyways, it's just that *technically* you didn't beat payday 2 without shooting.
But for all intents and purposes you did great man, and my comment was going for that tone of 'I'm too literal about everything and really self entitled on the Internet'.
Also alternate title suggestion: 'YOU CAN'T beat payday 2 without shooting, but I CAN .'
among us imposter vent
How do you do the epic dozer saw kill method?
just line up the saw with the dozer's faceplate and hold left click
With the 2nd guard not surrendering in the tutorial. Pretty sure it's because you killed the first guard. Think if you dominate or kill a cop you can't dominate guards for like 4 minutes
Nah, it’s just that the script doesn’t let you do that. You can kill and dominate as many times as u want during stealth, keeping pagers in mind.
You can dominate cops in stealth up to 8. Killing just triggers cops to shoot upon detection for a set amount of time. Even this video has an example for this happening in the diamond store.
@@Bay1k The timer doesn’t restart unless he goes for an arrest. Even if you dom, he’ll be intimidated.
@@shekkie shotguns also bypass that timer. I forgot the reason why.
@@Bay1kkilling is not what triggers guards to shoot. You can actually kill guards as long as 3 different possible conditions are not met.
1. if you shoot near the guard and either miss point blank or do not do lethal damage on the first shot and are close enough to the guard for him to HEAR your silenced shot while he is alive
2. If you do non lethal damage from afar so he doesn’t hear your shot BUT you do headshot damage
3. If a guard is alerted by something else and you do any non lethal damage
It is fairly complicated and silly but I think it is a really cool mechanic for understanding why guards shoot. Marcmb has a fantastic video on it titled something like “aim is important for stealth”
Isn't the boat escape the default one on dockyard stealth?
No the van is the free escape
@@poopstermcpoopson5667 From the payday 2 wiki "Successfully stealthing will always allow you to escape by boat from dock 3B".
@@poopstermcpoopson5667 if you grab a bomb part in stealth, you get a free boat escape
I feel like there is a loophole to the challenge. It is stated specifically to not fire a BULLET, making weapons like Flamethrowers, grenade launchers, etc. to be viable, for those are not bullets. If not so, then at least flamethrowers would 100% work with this rule.
I guess this is what I get for not explaining the ruleset well, I know it only says "bullet" but I still mean anything that can fire including crossbows, grenade launchers, flamethrowers and so on. This is supposed to be a challenge and being able to use weapons that can fire just ruins it all. I can't use anything that shoots, the only thing I am allowed to use are tools aka the OVE9000 Saw.
Grenades fires by grenade launches are just bullets with extra rules.
Kknowly now has a lifeline system in his videos, and I would say you used brings the ai for loud lifeline
Unicycle avenged our boy Yelwonkk. GGs.
when the 160 FOV hits you like a truck
28:16 what is the name of track you used?
absolutely fucking cracked
the panic room could be easier now because of the new deployable
That's definitely a massive help, would make brooklyn 10-10 or panic room so much more easier
@@unclegeldgeil not only panic room but any heist in general considering the bag has four uses giving four times the amount of any throwable per heist,
also im glad i could be of any help :)
Jokers shoot?? hello?
So… demoman challenge when
helicopter helicopter
Ur good bro
Next time try beat payday 2 in normal way
Bro the dedication.... You're a legend
29:45 Did you use a bullet to kill the rat?
Balls, very cool
41:45
Yooo, MatPat?
Unfortunately that's his distant cousin, MatPut
You can do mallcrasher in stealth
Assess the situation
Based
Kknowley's video was great, and this was a great follow up too!
Also I hear that old school Madness Combat music, mad respect.
1:07:06
48:30 Arent sentry guns banned?
They never shot
JEEEEEEEEEZ, gj pal
37:15 you cant hide that mc music from me
Motorcycle Cop. Good choice of music.
You should redo this with the metal pipe.
Always these Germans🔥🔥🔥
sociopath: it's my time to shine
Transport downtown #1
50:58 cold hard cash.
Can You Beat Payday 2 With only a metal pipe?
what in the fuck is this FOV
It's a pretty high fov lol, its actually Set to 2
@@unclegeldgeil any reason behind this that im not aware of?
anyhow hats off to you for finishing what kknowley started
@@SpecTwo I just think it looks cool, thats pretty much the only reason
33:11 you get more exp from the extra bags?
Yes, but it is not too much.
edit: apparently I am a big buffoon and that is not true, I guess I lied I apologize
Golden Grin Casino: has about 30-40 money bags
Also GGC: doesn't give you extra exp for them
Yo skedadudlers
i hope you binded melee to scroll wheel or smth
I actually didn't, it was E the entire time lmao.
It wasn't a big issue though, I was used to this melee button for years so it was pretty easy to work with
pain is painful
Is unicycle going to ever return?
Yes he will most likely return for another challenge, I don't know when exactly but it will happen
@@unclegeldgeil Did plans change? Respect anyways for all you've done 👍
@@braddeal2184 yes plans changed ever since U237. I stopped playing payday as a whole lmao
You accidently said from start to end at 1:23. I think you meant from start to beginning
Not gonna lie, when reading the script I almost wanted to say that again lol
Impossible
still waiting for some1 to do this withoit breaking any rules smh. kknowley is the best still
can i just say
money blaster
and bows
23:44 no one*