I Push The 2021 Kia Sorento X-Line To Its Limits Off-Road! Hint - It Does Not Go Well.
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- At the top of the 2021 Kia Sorento lineup, the "X-Line" trim is aimed at adventurous types who may want to take the family crossover on some trails. Can the new model hold up to the strain on Tombstone Hill? Andre finds out in this off-road video.
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All TFL content is better than anything on cable TV! I watch almost all episodes from all the channels!
Agree. TFL has replaced my morning TV shows while I eat breakfast.
Straight facts, I’ve been watching since the BRZ 0-60 video that had to be a long time ago
I second and third that
Yah TH-cam destroys sky and Freeview for 90% of the show's and channels because there's always something good on and it cost the viewers nothing and the maker's get paid hope I spelled maker's right.
TV is soo dated at this point. You can find any movie or TV show you want on the internet for free (other than the cost of the internet bill and your device) and with no annoying commercials because there is something called an adblocker.
I know you guys like doing more "stock" vehicles for your offroad tests, especially the tires. For some of us non hardcore offroaders, I'd be interested in seeing some shows with stock vs true AT tires installed to showcase how tires can make a difference.
Totally agree!
AWESOME IDEA!
I've always wanted to know the same with the 2017 CR-V. What if it had an 1.5" lift and A/T tires? Would the vehicle have passed their test?
Wouldn’t matter much. These vehicles aren’t meant for this.
Highly agree
Most AWD systems aren't really meant for offroading. Their real use is for icy roads.
I never heard Kia claim this Sorento was made with offroading in mind. It can handle rough terrains as an AWD but don't expect a performance of a core 4x4.
Soooo WELL said, Elean, why everybody expects otherwise, i really don't get it..
Scrolling through most recent videos on TFLoffroad: TRX, Raptor, 4Runner, GX, FJ.... Sorento! 😂😂🤣
Testing these AWD family movers off-road is what made TFL as popular as it is today. No one else was doing these tests.
@@jabroni6199 And if we accept that people buy crossovers in part because they like to think they could go off road (otherwise, why not just buy a hatchback?), and that these bazillion identical mid-sized crossovers kind of ARE the car market right now, then you could argue that these tests are relevant and contextually important.
"this third row may better be suited for kids or small primates"😂😂😂😂😂
He forgot to include mother inlaws. Or maybe he got in trouble the last time he did.
@@tritchie6272 lol
I feel like a vehicle this size, would be more useful, if they removed the 3rd row seats altogether and made a bigger cargo area. Average US family size is 3.14, South Korean family size is 2.4 people. We don't need a third row that is going to stay folded down and take up space that otherwise could be used for groceries and gear.
@@ragweedmakesmesneeze well said
@@ragweedmakesmesneeze Probably installed for those that want an emergency 3rd row,or tax reasons.
Literally was headed to the Kia dealer and thought “let me watch some reviews” and bam TFL literally shows up saying posted 12 hrs ago! 😇🙏🏻
An “X” on something used to mean “DON’T” or “NOT”. Maybe this is Kia telling us DON’T take this off road.
Yeah, dual clutch on an "off road" vehicle... That is a huge "don't".
100%
🤣🤣🤣🤣
They kill me taking dual clutches off road. They're not meant for that.
@@oldshowfanatic77 true, but why are manufacturers putting them in "off road" touted vehicles then? I like that they take these things off road because it shows the buyer what to expect in the real world... You get in this and it can look very comparable to say an explorer or highlander, it's even got an "off roady" locking center diff. Reviews like this help show that it's really just a lifted street car meant for snow, not mud... Just because a regular viewer like me and you knows what the outcome will be, doesn't mean others won't... Every other big suv has always had a torque converter and it's never been a thing to worry about.
Keep doing what you do with these crossovers. This is what separates you from the majority of other automotive publications; you're not afraid to push the vehicles off-road. 👍
You should bring Andre's dad's old Sorrento out here and show what the difference is in off-road capability of the two.
Kia: puts plastic covers under the car like very other company
Andre: wow look at these composite skid plates 😂😂😂
Funniest scene on the vid 🤣
Yeah that one made me chuckle.
It’s a dual clutch FWD based AWD (on-demand clutch pack) crossover. My dad has a 2014 Sorento. Similar AWD but has a TC auto transmission with the “locker”. It goes thru mud and and dirt roads slightly more aggressive than truth. Nothing amazing but gets the job done. Good for your “everyday” off-roading and is honestly all that Sorento buyers ever need.
I'm still trying to wrap my head around a Kia family hauler having a dual clutch.... Very interesting results
they use dual clutches for fuel economy since torque converters usually lose you about 3-5% mpg
@shamp00p 200hp?😂
@necroona97 never heard anyone, including mechanics, mention a massive cost increase to maintaining dual clutches. They are outright more expensive to (re)build, but their maitience is pretty similar. As for the fuel economy, it's noticeable enough to where it's worth the extra cost to the Koreans, that should mean something.
As you can see in the video, the dual clutch is not working so great.
@@74beeper97 As you can see they are taking a vehicle with LLR highway tires offroad and wondering why its spinning its wheels. So the trans was overheating because the clutch was fighting the brakes on the traction control system. If there were real lockers and offroad tires, it would be no different than driving a manual offroad, which is usually preferred by offroaders.
I love the TFL content and editing style it’s fantastic. Honest reviews straight from a good group of guys. As a Denver native and Thornton CO resident I sure am proud of my Boulder CO TFL boys
Might as well try taking a Forte or Elantra off-road . The Sorento is a nice ride meant only for the asphalt 😊
So why having awd, center diff lock, and increased ground clearance? All crossovers should be tested off-road as TFL does, since they have awd and some ground clearance.
@Jeremy R if it is for snow, take a fwd wagon or van and put on winter tires, this combination works very well for decades. Awd adds extra weight, and increased ground clearance worsens highway fuel economy. These are justified only if you take it for some ( light) off-roading, not just for snow
@@giolats8179 AWD will still outpace a FWD van or wagon when comparably equipped.
Thanks, this video is helpful to me and I got an idea that X-line package should have OFF-road tires to come out because if tires are good for off-roading the transmission wouldn't be overheated there.
My kid has an older Sorento. It does pretty well off-road. Low range and whatnot. But, like most things these days, it is no longer built like it was.
Those from 2003 to 2009 were built on a truck chassis with rear wheel drive VS todays front wheel and had a steel skid protector, sometimes miss those days.
@@yourtube4423 I agree. We had an 95 Pilot that did just fine for us. The new pilots I wouldn't take on a dirt road. Lol
I love these off road tests. Especially when they struggle
Fun to watch🙂
Take Andre’s father Sorento to Dare! I like that old fashioned SUV, cause my father has one too! 😍
I still have the 2007 3.5v6. it beats a Mercedes ML of same year
I’m sure logistically, it’s easy to say it sitting here at home...but it would have been nice for you guys to have a Grand Cherokee or Renegade or Crosstrek to compare at the same time. Keep up the great work though.
Steve Kramer why? Don't we all know already the outcome(s)? I am certain even a JGC Laredo, 2x4 can do better!
@@MrKozanitis entertainment value. But I can’t disagree.
Steve Kramer Ok...I can't disagree with you about entertainment value, but I don't think that is the goal of TFLs reviews! Stay safe.
@@MrKozanitis So we can compare? Great, the Sorento isn't stellar at offroad. Still would like to see how much of a difference it is from my current Forester. As they said in the video, the camera flattens everything and makes it look easy, so I can't really compare this video to places I've taken my Forester.
Love the honest reviews guys!
Yeah those trails are a lot steeper than they appear on camera, the cameras just dont do it justice.
Good job in not blowing smoke up people’s backsides. Settled on the new Ranger thanks to your reviews and after a year and a half I found them accurate. Don’t change how you review.
Two things about Hyundai/Kias that really stand out in multiple reviews:
1) FWD models can't put the power down well.
2) Dual clutch transmissions hate off roading.
But it’s a dual clutch anyways. What do you expect. And why do you have to mention the fwd models? What does that have to do with this video?
Huh?
That dual clutch hates being in traffic too. It will give you the same heating warning I have tried it you should too.
@@shivamthakur8148 no it won’t. That was there old dry clutches.
My 15 Sonata needs more power. But my moms brand new santa fe can get up and go
Expected and Disappointed, the dual clutch over heating 👎 but still better SUV than Ford Escape or Chevy Equinox.
Regards.
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It is not made for that. Im sure it's an awesome vehicle for daily driving in snowy conditions, with the occasional dirt/fire road to the trail or lake. Wrong tool for the job here.
4Runner or GTFO
My 2.0T Escape has no issues in Colorado...
With this vehicle: off-road means a parking lot at the mall. 🙄
Yeah pretty sad considering the previous gen sorento successfully climb hell's gate in moab with only offroad tires.
Or as someone else said here...on the hoist at the dealership for repairs. That dual clutch might be like Fords dual clutch lawsuit transmission.
Exactly right
@@evoemperor3776 yea wtf- did they change the 4WD system?
@@freerider604 no the problem is the transmission the previous one was a traditional torque converter compared to the new one which is dct. Dct is good on road but it is shit in towing and offroad.
Quality vehicle the fact that it did what you asked it do even though it wasn't designed for that speaks volumes and the fact that the shoes were terrible for that even more
Aside from the incorrect tyres (tires) try reducing the pressure. The vehicle isn't really designed for those conditions. If that is the toughest track you encounter, trying coming to Australia. The other thing is momentum, stop starting the way you did it is highly unlikely to get anywhere much.
As a qualified Driver Trainer, I find that your techniques leave a lot to be desired.
Always good to watch your vids because , as you said, great trails here in Colorado. Excellent value for not off roading,
I love how true to life you keep these reviews and say it how it is! This sorento would be a hard pass for me for my off road adventures. Thanks for amazing review
That's interesting, here in Canada, our X-Line is a full blown trim with a suspension lift, and ALL our Sorentos are AWD and have the offroad modes. So neat to see the differences country to country
I would be really interested to know the actual difference in suspension parts n wheel n tire choices. If you ever have a chance do you think you could share any links to parts? Probably only included through dealership parts website
I love this channel. But this must be the first time that Andre ever drove a vehicle.
I appreciate you doing this test. I loved my 2011 Kia Sorento besides that the terrible e-throttle lag made the manual hard to drive in traffic. I was looking forward to getting a newer one with auto and awd that could handle trails like these. I actually drove out there and did Goldmine Hill in my 2016 Jeep Patriot after watching your videos. I like having a crossover for daily driving, but definitely push them to their limits off road.
this was ALL driver error on this test. Lol No offense, but if you do not know what "mode" to be in, then that is a problem. Merci
I own a 2005 kia sorento with a 4wd mode and it works amazing, mine also has the additional 2in lift kit on 33" tires and it does great off road
Great info and even greater testing, thank you.
It would be REALLY interesting to see what the difference would be with 17in rims and ALL Terrain tires.
Those moronis wouldn’t do that Bc they pare paid off
Love what you guys doing
Great stuff! Just as a series idea, I think it would be cool to see some old SUV/Pickup 'battles' - maybe bracket style. These days, most all new SUV's are pretty terrible, but some of the older 90/2000's SUV's (Explorers, Trailblazers, Blazers, Jeeps, Durango, etc) were actually pretty solid off-roaders with real transfer cases and actual lockers.
This video reminds me exactly why i kept my 2004 Kia Sorento with the V6, 4x4 and manual transmission. I just put it on first gear, 4x4 Low, release the clutch and i let it do the work.
KIA like to advertise these things on dirt roads like it's some kind of badass offroader.
Sorentos in other countries (e.g. Australia) have various off-road terrain modes (it's funny I always wondered why they bothered to include a snow mode). Also I think outside of the US memory seats are standard. And here in JA only the turbo diesel is offered.
FYI....I pee on that tree in front of the F-150 every time I’m on that trail 😂
What the heck man thats the tree I lick everytime I'm on that trail
@@trev119 omg I'm dying 😭 🤣
Soon as you said dual clutch I knew the outcome
i think it's more "dual-crutch" when you take it to a hill like that.
Iam pretty sure they knew that,,they did that for views for those who doesn’t know crap about off-roading
dual clutch and cvt transmissions are garbage off-road.
Lmfao! I saw where you were going with that camera test/hand gesture!!!
Burro is a supremely worthy off-road animal!
CVT's and Dual Clutch still proving lack of capability for off-roading!
yeah that is true but why on earth would you take this car off road???
At least the cvts made it up both side, the dual clutches have not.
Well yeah, of course. That's not what they're ultimately designed for.
Yes, but its a wet duel this time, much better than the old dry duel they were using.
My 15 forester disagrees
Me and my fiancé just got a 2021 hybrid Sorento, thanks for the update !
I’ve been waiting to see this one
Still one of the best new cars buy in 2020, according to a LOT of others reviewers/car channels, regardless of offroad capabilities, which you shouldn't complain about anyhow, since you're not shopping in the right segment
Great B roll👍🏽
Great video!
Thank you TFL-team , I appreciate your channel for straight forward information wrapped up in short videos. Nice car, but I'm will stick on my Grand Cherokee.
Do you really get paid for making such fun-stuff in the wonderful mountains of Colorado in the winter sun ? Guys, I'm just a tiny little bit jealous working on a grey day in the homeoffice..
Nice to know what the customer is and ain't getting. Good thing for KIA that probably not many folks are getting a Sorento with this in mind. Still it's good to know not to try anything beyond a dirt road. I'm wondering how well it would do in bad weather. It's not a bad looking car.
When you want to make a great awd system look like crap put it in smart mode when off-road 👌
Another great video. I think most people buying these are not interested in going off pavement. I drove a S version yesterday. I was impressed with the 191hp motor, it moved the heavy rig better than expected. It was very comfortable and quiet. I am looking to replace my 2006 Forester which never goes off road, I have a F150 for that. I love my subie but something with more tech would be nice. I would gladly buy another Subaru if they didn't use CVTs. I have friends with newer Foresters and Subaru has replaced the CVT for them. The non-turbo Sorento uses a 8 speed auto. I wonder if it would have worked any better.
Smart mode for off road? I'd use sport for the initial power at the beginning.
The fact that it has no off-road mode should be a clue to its off-road capabilities.
Thanks TFL-Team for another great video! I find the Sorento quite interesting. I am currently driving a 2011 Subaru Forester SH - a boxer diesel mit 147 HP and manual transmission. I am wondering if it would be a smart step to switch to the Kia concerning off road capability? After watching this I am not so sure.
Certainly an interesting video, not quite sure how you overheated that gearbox. I just recently did some back-roads in Virgin UT this weekend with my 2021 and didn't have any issues as I was driving in manual mode with center-lock on. The roads looked worse then this video. Stock tires on these are a joke but they are looking to sell to the masses (comfy hwy driving).
Does anyone buy these and think they are actually made to be used off road? Its a station wagon with a lift
Like you guys mentioned, is an appearance package. It was pretty remarkable that it made up truth with those tires. Even though they are all seasons, maybe try deflating the tires a bit.
Well done guys
These newer Kias really aren't capable off road due to the nature of a DCT and the constant trans "slipping" which will lead to overheating.
The last gen Sorento with the traditional 8-speed trans and Dynamax AWD system was actually surprisingly capable.
Thank you for this useful test , may it will do better on desert sands
Thanks guys for the great work! Is Nissan Rogue in your list for off-road test? I'm very curious about its performance in such conditions
Why in the hell did you have that in smart mode!!
Just to be dumb😉
I took a 08 Chevy impala off-road an it did surprisingly well it made it up a mountain I’m not sure of the elevation or slope but I made it up a super rocky very very steep hill in a Impala I was very shocked it made it.
I feel like you need to make another video with more tests on this amazing car. I ve seen other videos testing off road and the dual clutch didn't overheat.
In a video made by KIA they said you should lock the 4wheel drive only if you are stuck. Maybe that is what overheated the system?
Hyundai/Kia is overplaying everything (looks, features,warranty) just to compete with the Japanese but it isn't there yet It may take some time before people realize it
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A lot of people are gonns be mad when they find our their 40k+ grocery getter of a ‘’SUV’’ can’t even climb a gravel hill 🤣
That’s not just a gravel hill, very steep, loose rock hill on poor tires for that application. The right tires would make it easy
@@sportshot2350 ouuuuu sounds scary!! Well here comes the atlas after getting the groceries.
@@sportshot2350 lol you're joking right? My nissan xterra could do that hill with bald tires in 2wd. That thing sucks and not meant for offroading.
@@jscott7432 go do it and film it
Well! I'm sorry if you are butt hurt. But i saw a VW Atlas doing the same test and it crawled like an offroader uphill, maybe it was some other guy who did it, you will find it on TH-cam search it and as far as I remember it was the same exact trail. It clearly shows that why AWD system of Hyundai group is trash against VAG.
The old original 1st gen Sorento was also available with a V6 and a manual transmission.
I knew someone who was obsessed with manuals and had a V6, 4x4, manual trans Sorento. Finally got rid of it when their health started failing and electrical gremlins started to pop up in the Sorento.
Feels odd to look outside in NC and see snow, and to watch one of your videos and see no snow. 🤷🏿♂️
$44,000 good value? Heck, I'd rather spend just a tad bit more ($45,650) and get a brand new JGC Trailhawk equally, if not much better, equipped! Same on-road performance (ok, minus the almost useless third-row seat) PLUS the best off-road performance (Wranglers excluded)!
I actually bought the new 21 X-Line. Your review is very miss leading. No one will actually take there vehicle “off-road” without preparing for it, even the basis of an AT tire set up. Additionally something you really missed the mark on: Yes your not buying a Cherokee or Wrangler, but you are getting a third row for larger families, ability to handle harsh weather conditions, oh and a true auto lane assist with adaptive cruise control.. which you don’t get this in any other type of SUV. Plus all the other amazing features. Being a dad of three this was the exact SUV I was looking for even after looking at Jeep, Subaru, and even looking at the demo Branco. Has all the bells and whistles you could ask for and still an AWD.
This is not a 'review'. It's literally an off-roading video.
In the Middle East we get the Sorento with a 3.5L V6 and an 8 speed torque converter transmission. Maybe that’ll be better off-road.
Where do you guys do your offroading? I am planning a trip to Colorado sometime in the spring
We are looking at the Sorento for my wife, would like to see it tested on gravel/snow/sand etc. Clearly not a great option for the more technical but wondering the quality of AWD system. I used to own an Outback and loved it! Pulled a Hummer H2 out of deep sand with it once..dude was oblivious on how to offroad😎
Bought one yesterday (2/6/21). Found some snow and icy patches here in Indiana. Did very well. Just ease on the throttle and off we went. The engine is almost too peppy for its own good, but did fine. We have an EX so also go 18" wheels with better tires. Just left it in eco too.
This is an unfair test because pretty much any car would struggle on those tires.
My family Has a 2018 and it's great for family hauling. Live in Canada and it handles the snow better than my old ram 1500. I pull a 4500lb boat with it as well. It's not meant to do what they are testing in this video.
Seems like it would make a perfectly fine "wifemobile" and daily driver. It's got the ground clearance for snowy roads and the locking center diff is another great option for snow. It's clearly setup for the street which their review was showing.
If your sand driving will be occasional and you won't be creeping along slowly in it a lot (due to the dual clutch needing to slip it's clutch) then i say it looks like a great value. Although i'd have a hard time recommending a kia over another subaru if you'll be keeping it long term.
I'm sure Tommy will do a slip test on this thing
You guys get 5 chipmunks 🐿 but that KIA only should get .5
Another great episode guys!!!!
I want to know how it does again a Rav4 trail or TRD off road
Tires make all the difference !!!! Put the right tires on it then test it.
Good video guys. These mall runners are good for all weather, or paved dirt roads but not for true off road. I always find it silly for the manufacturer when they advertise them as off road rigs running on sand dunes or some rocky off road trail in the mountains. We always laugh when people in RL try to bring these rigs on trails and we find them stuck on some back trail here in Arizona.
Love this video. People think all unibody SUV's with AWD have the same capabilities, which obviously isn't the case.
TFL "mountain goat score" ? The TFL MGS!
Hey Roman I don't know what you were thinking with the whole chipmunk deal but I guess it's pretty funny 😂😂😂
I wish you would throw some A/T tires on there and try it again. I have an F-150 with Bridgestone Dueler revo 3 tires and the difference between those and the stock factory tires is so different, this reminded me of that.
Tires make a lot of difference when off road
The biggest single difference -- by a wide margin -- regardless of drive system.
Didn't Kia have an ad/video of the Sorento doing some crazy off road "tricks" in Moab to show it was an off road worthy vehicle?
Bare rock vs the loose dirt in this video
@@MidnughtMerauders True! There is a difference; nonetheless, they did it to show the Sorento has "off road 'cred'". Also, the Sorento they used was modified, not stock.
@TFLoffroad - Have you done a video of the Telluride up Tombstone yet? Would want to see how that compares after seeing the Sorento fail and especially after seeing the FJ vs Defender video as benchmark.
I would be really interested in seeing this. Though the 20in wheels on the SX trim are not going to do well. Wonder if they would try one of the lower trims
@@danielboyd7810 The TFL Defender is on 20" wheels with Goodyear Wrangler AT tires. Not sure what tires the Telluride SX come with.
@@therealprofessorp6237 some really low profile all seasons which are more suited for the warmer seasons in my opinion. Michelin primacy tours to be specific
@@danielboyd7810 Tirerack has some AT options. Spec for the Telluride is 245/5020 which has quite a few choices. PS - I have a 2020 Defender that is near identical to TFL one with rear locker but without third row. Have yet to drive a Telluride but was a contender for me except I didn't want third row. www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSearchResults.jsp?tireIndex=0&autoMake=Kia&autoYear=2021&autoModel=Telluride+AWD&autoModClar=SX&width=245%2F&ratio=50&diameter=20&sortCode=59938&skipOver=true&minSpeedRating=H&minLoadRating=S
@@therealprofessorp6237 No doubt. I plan to get a set of AT for it soon. TFL usually just sticks with the stock set up they get from the dealerships though so these tests usually say more about the tires it's sold with than the vehicle capability. Hopefully they do the test anyway though.
Andre' please see if your dad will allow you to give his original BoF Sorento a shot on Truth or Dare.
We had an '06 with a proper 5 speed and 2 speed transfer case and it was a BEAST.
I have always been curious, where is this trail located? Is it on the Switzerland trail system?
You never tried it in the element it was built for...mall running...I'm betting it would be a beast whipping around abandoned shopping carts...
Was this filmed back before winter or has it been really dry in Colorado lately?
Half the 4x4s out there would overheat on a steep hill with road tires spinning like that. Not a good test without A/Ts.
Tires are 60% of off roading ability of a vehicle.
I would like to see a KIA telluride review from TFL because you rarely here anything about it like in commercials and in reviews you rarely here about the KIA Telluride at all
Yeah those skid plates are hell sometimes when you put them on. There’s a hole right in the middle of the frame you have to shoot a screw through for it to stay up but you can’t see where you’re shooting so you’re just hoping you hit it lol
love the finger tentative on the rear view cam 😅
If I didn't trade my focus st in for the 4runner I'd definitely take it there and let you guys film me 🤣 I took that car places it never should've been. Never really had traction issues. Was always clearance issues, but it was small enough that I could try different lines that trucks couldn't. Gotta do what you gotta do to get to hunting/fishing/camping spots
Maybe put some decent tires on it?
Put on the AT tire and learn to drive !! You can't even use the terrain switch. :) :)
How about Billy Goat score? While it seems nice, that bad up a dirt road keeps it off my list.
Billy goat came to mind for me too.
At least it went off warning alert on th dash board. That's a good thing.