Yes! Well done... And very cool - on THIS type of production, music, song, sound and aesthetic. Because there are other times and songs and styles in which dryness and empty spaces are exactly what's needed and the most powerful choice. Or contrast between the two, upfront, dry & empty and then wide, bombastic and effected. No "one size fits all", not all gaps need to be filled in all the time, every time.
i had an experience with this recently! i was working on a song that didn’t need pretty much anything on the vocals due to the style. but there was a part where the band drops out and it’s just vocals but it felt empty. so i put some delay verb stuff on the only the harmonies and it popped so much more
@@experimetalfan8851 hey if thats the sound you like then that's what you like it's ok just like Jordan and the no pros use verb on vocals or leads thing is wrong and it's just his preference... that's cool his mixes sound amazing! But Sam Giuana for example who just mixed the new Intervals album uses reverb and all kinds of effects on leads and everything else and his mix is still heavy as shit it's polished and sounds incredible
I'm using these fillers all the time, but i prefer to duck these delays from lead vox or anything else, so they become more present right in between phrases and not to mess with it. The song is really nice btw, love it.
I think it's fair to say that some of these are mix decisions, and some of these are production decisions. It's a blurry line, especially in small studio spaces, but I would consider drum verbs and vocal delay as mix decisions and guitar delay and narrow band vocal eq as production decisions..with the difference being I would ask first or make an alt mix to get approval if it's not my own project on the latter. Edit: provided the drum verb and vocal delay are in conventional taste. Reverse gate drum verb or a reggaeton vocal delay is a production decision.
Very good video, simple and practical. Your book has helped me a lot, maybe one about automation in heavy rock would be a good idea. Greetings from Chile.
my best guesses for the trick used from a few albums of yours would be: I am Alive in Everything I Touch - Late on 6th, The Continual Condition, Toronto(unbridged) This is How The Wind Shifts: Addendum - Departures, In a Place of Solace The Shape of Colour - Fable (more towards the middle of the song), Meridian
I don’t know you at all, from Emery’s Rub Some Dirt On It! If you reach out to Andreas, ask if he got it from John Feldman, because I immediately heard Anthem Of Our Dying Day from Story of the year.
@@QuincyKane they’re great dudes too. Check out out Chatahoochee, their country cover band with a few of the guys, past and present, if you’re ever in Fort Worth.
The video is about teaching you concepts. Whether or not the song is your favorite has nothing to do with that. Also it's pretty lame to like your own comment
@@peteypablo09 first off I didn’t like my own comment. And if I did, it was an accident. I think you missed the whole point of what he said in the beginning. You’re saving a boring mix and the bottom line is that a really great song that is well arranged with great parts is looking for production that fills in the holes. It’s about whether I like it or not, he even says it himself the better the song, the better the parts the tighter, the performance the less work you have to do.
Grab your free Mixing Cheatsheet to learn the go-to starting points for EQ and compression in heavy mixes: hardcoremusicstudio.com/mixcheatsheet
Yes! Well done... And very cool - on THIS type of production, music, song, sound and aesthetic. Because there are other times and songs and styles in which dryness and empty spaces are exactly what's needed and the most powerful choice. Or contrast between the two, upfront, dry & empty and then wide, bombastic and effected.
No "one size fits all", not all gaps need to be filled in all the time, every time.
Amen!
Man, what a class we had here!!!! Thanx so much!!
Super value oriented video, thanks.
Those effects sound awesome Jordan. Very inspiring techniques. Thank you!
That effect on the kick and snare in that big spacious part is amazing Awesome video
I really like these production videos that help to create a more interesting and engaging song/mix; thanks for sharing!
i had an experience with this recently! i was working on a song that didn’t need pretty much anything on the vocals due to the style. but there was a part where the band drops out and it’s just vocals but it felt empty. so i put some delay verb stuff on the only the harmonies and it popped so much more
I spent weeks, months, getting away from my "put effects on everything addiction" and you shoe me I should use more ... 🤓
@@experimetalfan8851 hey if thats the sound you like then that's what you like it's ok just like Jordan and the no pros use verb on vocals or leads thing is wrong and it's just his preference... that's cool his mixes sound amazing! But Sam Giuana for example who just mixed the new Intervals album uses reverb and all kinds of effects on leads and everything else and his mix is still heavy as shit it's polished and sounds incredible
Depends on the genre
Really cool techniques to create a beautiful ambience to hug the song. Thanks for sharing!!!
This video gives serious value. It's illegal that this is free. Thanks Jordan
MILESTONE of SIlverstein have that Fx Filter on the snare !!!
I'm using these fillers all the time, but i prefer to duck these delays from lead vox or anything else, so they become more present right in between phrases and not to mess with it. The song is really nice btw, love it.
I think it's fair to say that some of these are mix decisions, and some of these are production decisions. It's a blurry line, especially in small studio spaces, but I would consider drum verbs and vocal delay as mix decisions and guitar delay and narrow band vocal eq as production decisions..with the difference being I would ask first or make an alt mix to get approval if it's not my own project on the latter.
Edit: provided the drum verb and vocal delay are in conventional taste. Reverse gate drum verb or a reggaeton vocal delay is a production decision.
Very good video, simple and practical. Your book has helped me a lot, maybe one about automation in heavy rock would be a good idea. Greetings from Chile.
NICE! :) and if i remember correct the delay trick on kick and snare is the same you used on the Silverstein's Milestone :D
my best guesses for the trick used from a few albums of yours would be:
I am Alive in Everything I Touch - Late on 6th, The Continual Condition, Toronto(unbridged)
This is How The Wind Shifts: Addendum - Departures, In a Place of Solace
The Shape of Colour - Fable (more towards the middle of the song), Meridian
super helpful thank Jordan!
nice work Jordan -
What Jordan using reverb on vocal?!!! I like it!
Sounds great!
I feel like I heard that that last technique in Continual Condition, but that may have just been Paul's creative drumming🤔
10:19 I'm lost in this melody, how to make this ??
I don’t know you at all, from Emery’s Rub Some Dirt On It!
If you reach out to Andreas, ask if he got it from John Feldman, because I immediately heard Anthem Of Our Dying Day from Story of the year.
1:57 : "It's pretty empty and boring right ?". IMO not at all, I actually think it sounds better this way...
Intervals - Atlas Hour I hear a ping pong delay on the snare mixed in with the reverb
Shout out to my boys in Oh Sleeper
Oh, Sleeper is great!
@@QuincyKane they’re great dudes too. Check out out Chatahoochee, their country cover band with a few of the guys, past and present, if you’re ever in Fort Worth.
@@markconner5341 Thanks for the recommendation; I'll look 'em up!
nice!
Nice!!
Great tutorial, thanks! You'll be using a 480L next, lol! Cheers!
10:50 love it 😮❤
What guitar doubler are you using?
Neat tricks! And what a sick song/vocal, Y2K Emo vibe!
if empty space is filled out by several echos/reverbs from different instruments and vocals, isn't too crowded now?
its great but the telphone speaker sound vocal is not . a full emotional sung vocal - even a breathy one - would have been way nicer
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the song is called I can fill you? amazing lol
Lol this comment section is a disaster. Nuance is completely lost out here 😂
The problem is this is not a great song, it’s ok, but a better singer and tune helps
The video is about teaching you concepts. Whether or not the song is your favorite has nothing to do with that. Also it's pretty lame to like your own comment
That doesn’t help the mix engineer. Sometimes you have to spruce stuff up.
@@peteypablo09 first off I didn’t like my own comment. And if I did, it was an accident. I think you missed the whole point of what he said in the beginning. You’re saving a boring mix and the bottom line is that a really great song that is well arranged with great parts is looking for production that fills in the holes. It’s about whether I like it or not, he even says it himself the better the song, the better the parts the tighter, the performance the less work you have to do.
What's the main purpose of this thing, how to waist a good mixing tool on a terrible track?! I don't know. Namastè.