Every Single Difference Between the Chamber of Secrets Book & Movie (Harry Potter Explained)
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This is where Hermione began to become way smarter than she was supposed to be at the cost of Ron's character.
I was hoping to highlight that in these videos without actually saying it because thats not the focus or the point of these videos. But Ron is not dumb, and Hermione is not this all knowing goddess. One of the worst things the films did
@@MovieFlame lol
@@MovieFlame thanks Morgan 😎🥰
@@MovieFlame I understand your anger even without you expressing it through your voice. Even before reading the books I knew Hermione’s character was unnaturally flawless which was creepy.
When the PS1 and GBC tie in games managed to get this detail from the book right, you know something is going on at the film studio.
I can't wait for movieflame to differenciate "Harry did you put your name in the goblet of fire"
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IMAGINE HE IS SPEAKKING CALMLY AND SUDDENLY SAYS IN MOVIE HE GOT FRICKING RKO AAND THAN DUMBOLDORE SCREAMED DID U PUT UR NAME IN THE GOBLET OF FIEARA
"Harry, did you put your name in the Goblet of fire?" Dumbledore asked furiously.
Vs
"HARRYDIDYAPUTYANAMEINDAGOBLETOFFYRE!?" Dumbledore asked calmly.
Harry did you put your name in the goblet of fire Dumbledore asked calmly with a knife to harry's throat
YESSSSSSSSSS
Book: "Dumbledore asked C A L M L Y"
Movie: HARrY DiD YOU PUT YA NAME IN THE GOBLET OF FiRE?!?!!?!"
Harry is much more sassy in the books! I love in "The Duelling Club" when Lockhart tells him, before facing Malfoy "Just do what I did!" and Harry replies "What, drop my wand?"
That’s always been one of my absolute favorite lines 😂
Because Lockhart didn't do the stuff in his books so Harry beacomes annoyed with Lockhart.
What page is that
That’s called being an arrogant twat
@@thechickenwhisperer6175the dueling club chapter
Fred and George were like brothers to Harry in the books. The way they defended Harry from the rogue bludger, yelling at Wood for putting his life at risk and how Harry consoles the twins after Ginny was taken to the Chamber is very wholesome. But in the movies, you’d barely know they were in the story.
I read the books after I watched the movies and I was actually suprised how F & G were so nice to harry in many situations and a bit upset how they bullied ron putting him down
From the very fist moment he met the Weasly's, they all where a family (acting like one) without even rly thinking about it (Like Molly acting as a surrogate mother to Harry all the time)
@@cyberquasar2267 Yep. Me too I don’t like moments of Fred and George being jerks to Ron.
The movies basically cut them down to comic relief which is so sad.
It's a shame because the actors were certainly capable of that role.
No one:
Movie flame every HP movie review: “Ron actually said that”
Don't watch his videos if you have this much problem with cannon!
@@Alt-yg5ng oh no! My comment was a joke 😂
@@cc_455 Sry I didn't get that.
@@Alt-yg5ng canon*
Ron is smarter than what most think.
Tom Felton improvising "I didn't know you could read." and his facial expression after saying that line is hands down my favourite thing about this film 😂
Same! Cracks me up every time xD
It's so funny
Its so good im laughing at the memory of it
We need a "But Ron actually said that." counter.
+1 *ding*
*ding*
*Ding ding ding diiiiiiiinnnng*
But Ron actually said that but Ron actually said that +1 ding ding ding ding ding ding ding diiinggggg diiiiiiinnnnnggggggg
One shot for every "but Ron actually said that"
My bad
Alcohol poisoning by philosopher's stone 🤷🏻♀️
Just like the Krillin counter in DBZ Abridged. :D
@@Osarah96 one shot for every time he says “but In the film” or “but in the book”
My favorite Harry and Dudley interaction in this book that wasn’t in the movies was this:
“I know what day it is”
“So you finally memorized the days of the week? Good for you”
“It’s your *birthday* isn’t it?”
Wait, Dudley reminded Harry of his birthday? How unlikely sweet.
@@PikaLink91 He didn't remind him, he was just teasing him that noone cares abour his birthday.
@@justauser5222 I see, well that’s the thing about books. Unless blatantly stated you can’t make out the tone of voice or facial expression.
@@PikaLink91 what? That's a ridiculous statement. Haven't you ever heard of context? Facial expression/body language/vocal tone are all forms of contextual information, but language itself only has meaning through context. I'll freely admit visual mediums have the advantage when it comes to physical expression and the emotional resonance it facilitates, but written story telling has a massive advantage with depth and breadth, and also the ability to exist inside the characters heads, hearing their inner thoughts and feelings.
Both are wonderful forms of storytelling with their own merits.
apparently the “Avada…” was also improvised. Lucius’s actor was told to say a spell, and since he had just read Goblet of Fire, the first spell he thought of was “Avada Kedavra”
That actor seems to be a natural at improvising
Just like Draco when he said to Harry pretending to be Goyle "I didn't know you could read." Like father like son.
If you actually watch w subtitles, he doesn’t even say “Avada-“ it just sounds like it
@@xBrandoh subtitles aren't always accurate.
Also, I watched this film many times, and he clearly at least started saying it. Specifically "AVA" before Dobby stopped him
@@xBrandoh he reveals that he was going to use avadakadavra
Also one thing that was cut off from the movie. When Draco wished death upon a petrified Hermione, Ron leapt off his stool towards Malfoy. Harry and Dean had to hold him back while he said he didn’t need his wand, he was gonna kill him with his bare hands. They seriously downplayed Ron’s loyalty to Harry and Hermione so much in the movies compared to the books.
Exactly.... Book Ron was much smarter
When Malfoy says he hopes Hermione gets killed by the monster while a disguised Harry and Ron are talking to him in the Slytherin Common Room, Ron starts to get up angrily, but is restrained by Harry.
Not just his loyalty, but his intelligence and usefulness. Movie Ron is basically one of those moving magical photographs of book Ron. And I haven’t even read the books yet, but from the amount of times I’ve heard people complain, it seems there is a big difference.
Yeah True. When harry asked in DA class to follow spider tonight. Ron agreed more firmly after seeing Hermione empty seat.
@@SnailHatan The thing is that Movie Hermione is basically just a combined version of herself and Book Ron. Book Ron’s bravery, wizarding world knowledge, cool-headedness and emotional support, heck even his TEMPER was taken from him and given to Movie Hermione. All her flaws like being panicky was also given to Ron instead.
Just a note: pudding in the UK can refer to many different kinds of dessert. It's not clear from the reading what kind of dessert Petunia made. The equivalent of North American pudding would be custard in the UK.
"How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?!"
I remember the book clearly mentioned sugared violets so I imagine it was very similar to the movie. Something like a very fancy meringue nest
@@kevinmacdonald9269 a bombe supries
I just put this above! Haha, glad someone else mentioned it as well.
@@alonsoarana5307 pfp checks out alright :D
Daniel Radcliffe, Jason Issac and Tom Felton improvising their lines are some of the most iconic moments of the whole movie series!
“Scared Potter?”
“Of what?”
I like Hermione a lot but hate the fact that most of Ron's best lines were given to her in the movies.
Ron had great knowledge about the magical world in the books with all of his brothers being wizards. It really pisses me off with what they did with Ron's character and Ginny in the movies... Well, all of the Weasleys. They didn't shine in the movies as they did in the books and it's sad!
"Lost in Adaption", as its called.
For a reason.
Yeah Hermione is smart but still a muggle with barely any knowledge of stuff before like book 3-4 where she has read alot alot of history
@@jamesverone1244 not a muggle.
Yep one of the biggest flaws in the movies.
They got rid of all of Hermione's flaws as well, which just makes her an incredibly boring character.
I absolutely love the movies so I very rarely criticize them as much as many other book fans do, but Ron's and Hermione's character are definitely two things I WILL point out as massive disappointments.
If the chamber of secrets is 39 minutes then the goblet of fire is gonna be 5 hours
Imagine order of the phoenix 😐
Or Half Blood Prince.🤯
@@IOANNA333 I was gonna but didn’t want the comment to be to long
@@poojadeepak6211 didn’t think of that
What about order of pheonix
32:58 The book also describes Harry's feelings of extreme despair and hopelessness over Ginny's being taken into the Chamber, the one time when something like this happens when Harry is at a complete loss as to what to do next. It is RON who suggests going to see Lockhart. Harry can't think of anything else to do, and wants to be doing something, so he agrees.
In the book Harry gives to Ginny the books that Lockhart gave him saying that he will buy his own. This was his way of helping out the Weasley family financially. In the movie Molly took the books and told Harry she would get them autographed.
-Ron had wizards in his family it was obvious he knows more about the wizarding World than hermoine whose parents were muggles. Eg: hearing the voices
-Ron was street smart and Hermione book smart
How is it Ron had a long family line of witches and wizards and not know about the Sorting Hat, Threstrals? Ron receives hand me down robes, 2nd hand wand while Molly always complained the books would be expensive. Wouldn't Ron receive textbooks handed down since Bill? ...and by the 3rd book, give Harry a one of the twin's copies?
@@CJ-im2uu The books in Chamber were mostly Lockhart books, which are said to be very pricey. As for thestrals, well you only see them if you've seen death, so naturally it's not something he or anyone in his immediate family would've seen and also not something they'd want to explain to their young son.
@@CJ-im2uu in year 2 their DADA class is completely different than any other year because of Lockehart. Those are the only books she complains about
Another difference is that in the book, while Harry and the Weasleys are at The Burrow, Hermione sends a letter to Ron telling him that they could all meet at Diagon Alley to do their shopping, while in the movie, they meet Hermione at Diagon Alley by coincidence.
Ooh he definitely missed it
🤣🤣 Forget about that
Another difference is that Mr Weasley's job is expanded on in the book, and Mrs. Weasley even brings up Mr Weasley's own law's loophole that he specifically left in so he could continue his tinkering with Muggle stuff.
Also, the book has Mr Weasley ask Harry about plugs while the movie has him ask about rubber ducks.
"Lost in Adaption", as its called.
For a reason.
Yeah
I always thought it was weird how Fred and George stayed completely silent when Malfoy insulted their dad and Hermione. Don't know why they couldn't have them go after him in the movie, especially as they're standing right next to Draco throughout the whole scene.
I think because in the books it was violence they were about to commit. But in the earlier, family friendly movies, Chris Columbus tried his hardest to avoid violence unless it was absolutely unavoidable 🤷🏿♂️. That’s just my guess.
@@tubebammy booooo give us the violence!
@@tubebammy giant children traumatising nightmare spider of death? That's fine. But a little violence? Stop that right now!
@@tomriddler1926 lines up with typical “think of the children” mentality.
same makes no sense! Same when he rescued him from the dementour
I hate how the movies treated Hermione like she was raised in the Wizarding World, when she was as clueless as Harry, and it's Ron that understands the Wizarding World.
Fun Fact: The reason why Lucious almost used the killing curse on Harry is because Jason Isaac's forgot the spell he was supposed to use, and did the first spell that came to mind, and they kept it in.
Video should have been called “But actually Ron said it”
can't wait for PoA where movie-Hermione's line "if ur gonna kill Harry, u have to kill us first" (to Sirius in the Shrieking Shack) was actually said by book-Ron.
@@JuanMataCFC yeah the movies gave Hermione so much of Ron's character it's painful, it's like he's a flat character in the movie from it, and it makes Hermione seem a closer friend to Harry, which also makes her and Ron's relationship seem a little random
It's not his fault that movies ruined Ron so much that it was worth pointing out. Don't watch his videos if you have so much problem with people pointing out cannon source material because in the future there will be more.
@@Alt-yg5ng they are not complaining about movieflame
It’s shocking how much the movies did that!!! And Ron was my second favorite character, and I thought Rupert Grint was such a great actor for Ron. Makes me so mad. 😡😡
the turnaround is nuts, and the effort just shows. amazing top tier creator
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Fun fact: The big bang made by Peeves as a distraction for Filch suggested by Sir Nicholas was actually Peeves smashing the vanishing cabinet that Malfoy would go on to mend 4 years later.
@☆HannahBanana the Bookworm☆ #StarsOfTartarus As a writer myself, I doubt that JK actually thought that far ahead in terms of little details. What I do is when I write future books, I implement elements from earlier books (like this example) making it seem like I thought that far ahead all along.
There is so much foreshadowing about the vanishing cabinet
@☆HannahBanana the Bookworm☆ #StarsOfTartarus That it is, and not only do the readers (us) think it's cool with details like this, but when I write and include details that draw upon elements from earlier books, not only do I feel my universe is more connected, but I also feel I keep the earlier books "alive" so to speak 🙂 And nice to meet you, fellow writer! May I ask where you are from and what you write? I'm from Denmark and I write what I call shonen fantasy, in that my books feel like reading a manga or playing a videogame. They are about a group of young adults going on adventures to repeatedly save the universe and all of existence.
though harry went into the cabinet and didn't teleport to hogwarts, so it had to be already broken
That is really interesting
There's 1 more difference that you missed in the "Dobby's warning". In the book, Uncle Vernon hired a carpenter to put bars on Harry's window, but in the movie, Uncle Vernon puts the bars himself
The movies take all of Ron’s smart lines and gives them the Hermione. The movies just make Ron the comedic part.
Books: Laughing with Ron.
Movies: Laughing at Ron.
Hermione in the book is very smart but the movie makes her over-smart and the insufferable know-it-all which I don't like, it makes her character very annoying and the film makers giving her Ron's brilliant, intelligent and smart lines is just disrespectful, the movie make Ron seem like a joke, that's why people who only watched the movies hated him being in the trio and saying he's useless and shit
@@kavishbedi9281 couldn't have said it better.
The GoF movie was more in the comedic side.
@@justasimpforalexturner1001 I think the reason they went that direction is they were afraid kids need to have a clear personality trait for each character in order to relate to them. Multi-layered personalities were too much.
I wonder why Dusrleys didn't know whether Harry is allowed to do magic when Pitunia literally spent her childhood with a witch that attended Hogwarts.
Well, technically, the first book did have a plot hole where Lily apparently showed some magic when she got back from Hogwarts, so I guess the second book is just carrying on said plot hole.
Maybe, when Lily attended Hogwarts there wasn't the rule that could forbid casting spells outside Hogwarts by minors? We know from Petunia, if I remember right, that Lily used magic when she was at home (and she could do it when she turned 17). I also have the other version. We know that The Trace helps to find the place where some minor casted a spell, but not the person. Snape who lived in almost the same territory as Lily comes from a magic family (his mother is pureblood), so The Trace in their region was useless. The Ministry of Magic knew that Eileen Snape (an adult wizard) was living there, so she uses magic everyday.
OMG so true. Maybe she supressed the memory.
Fair point
How do you expect Petunia to know the Hogwarts rules if she never went to Hogwarts? Sure, she lived with Lily, but remember that Petunia hated her sister for being a witch and she was scared of magic, so Petunia wouldn't bother to ask Lily about what she's allowed and not allowed to do outside of Hogwarts.
Can we please talk about how Harry was threatened to be expelled for doing magic in front of a muggle, who was his cousin, who he lived with and KNEW HE WAS A WIZARD ALREADY!
An accurate depiction of bureaucracy tbh
Yeah that’s unfair. Plus it was Dobby who did it
Yeah, but the Masons were there, and they didn't know about magic
I've always theorized that the technical oversight was due to the institutional discrimination against muggle-borns, since a lot of the underage magic laws generally favor those from magical ancestry. You can't even trace underage magic if it's performed in the near distance of wixens who are of age, - but if you're a muggle-born, or living with them, you'll either receive a warning, suspension or expulsion depending on the severity. It's a scheme to root out the muggle-borns, there's no way It's not, the system is way too faulty
Nah I feel like it's worse in order of the Phoenix sense in that case it was literally just him and Dudley
Oh yeah did I mention that he was attacked by FUCKING DEMENTORS
in the extended cut for borgin and burkes, tom felton actually got hurt by the cane accidently by jason issacs. This made them cut the scene and made it only in the extended film. You could also see when draco was looking at the vanishing cabinet.....you could see tears in tom's eyes... at the end when jason apologized tom said, "it was alright it was good for the scene!" BLESS HIM
They literally cut every good and smart line spoke by Ron.
Worse - they did not cut them, but gave them to Hermione...
@@certainlynotthebestpianist5638 idiots
Because Hermione was played by Emma Watson. She is much more prettier than Hermione. In the books character importance is Harry, Ron and Hermione. But the movie turn it to Harry, Hermione and Ron. So naturally with that and Emma Watson playing her, they had to cram Hermione into most of the shots and give her more lines.
@@Capri_00 The actual reason was Steve Kloves the screenwriter was very fond of Hermione. So he gave Ron's lines to Hermione because he loves to write for her character.
@@ramana_m which is creepy and disgusting if you think about it that way
My life is a whole lie when I finally realized that Neville had blonde hair even though I already read the books
same
I swear
Omg yeah
Tbf i read philosopher's stone only once in my life, it's the only book I'm missing
@@TM-tb4di I haven't read that book, my first book was The Half Blood Prince
@@duonggialinh5724 OOOOHHH well that makes sense
After I understood the vanishing cabinet's importance, I realized that Harry was merely centimeters away from closing the cabinet's door and ending up in Hogwarts. Now that would've been a fun event. That short scene at Borgin's shop introduces a lot of seemingly unimportant items that become crucial later.
Also a great piece of fun that Harry's signature spell was taught to him by Snape. Just how Barty Crouch Jr taught him how to resist the Imperio. Sometimes Harry learns more from his enemies than from his mentors.
I vaguely remember a description of a hand holding a candle whose light was only useful to the one carrying it, that draco actually used in book 6.
There was a mention of that one cursed necklace as well.
There really was a lot of foreshadowing in that scene.
The other cabinet is at malfoy manor at this time
In regards to Lucius attempting a Killing Curse on Harry, one way to make the scene work is to imagine that he was going to curse Dobby, and Dobby just assumed it was aimed at Harry. It makes sense. Dobby was Lucius's house elf, so he metaphorically (and possibly literally) knows where the bodies are buried. And given that house elves have no rights, Lucius could get away with killing Dobby. Even if being a free elf meant Lucius couldn't just kill him, Lucius could simply deny having ever set Dobby free. It would be his word against Harry's, and the authorities probably wouldn't bother doing any kind of investigation on behalf of an elf.
Directors: How much of an all-knowing goddess should we make Hermione and how dumb should we make Ron?
Screen-writer: YES!
Its likely that Yltherins actually abuse the
Magic-Detection-Abilities of the Ministry;
and rightfully so.
So all Slytherins get a Summer full of Training more
than other Houses, cause Smart!
I dont get it
in hindsight, it makes no sense why Hermione would know so much of the wizarding world considering she's a muggle-born, it's only logical that Ron should have been the mouthpiece for common sense in the wizarding world since he lived there since birth
@@drakematsy7412 my thoughts exactly. Plus both Weasley parents seem pretty sharp, maybe goofy as well, but still appear to be smart characters
I'm sure Emma Watson had something to do with that. She does come off as someone bossy, even during her interviews during the first few movies. She loves attention, but she also knows Rupert won't say anything if his important lines are given to her.
Damn. Kloves really hated Ron as if he were a real character and his mortal enemy. Also I would like to point out that when they decide to follow the spiders, Ron doesn't pull a face and says "Why spiders why not follow the butterflies?" INSTEAD Harry looks at Ron for confirmation since he knew Ron's fear of spiders and Ron merely shrugs and says, 'Well we have come this far.'
I think this scene was better in the movies
@@kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214 it was because of comic relief. But the change of this scene was bad because in the books Ron was ready to face his worst fear for Hermoine.
It actually was WB that wanted Kloves to change the scripts to promote Hermione, so it was more their doing than Kloves'.
@@Alt-yg5ng Very True. He was ready to do it only because of Hermione.
In movie they ruined it all😑😑😑
also stopping the car while still in the forest like "good thing we're in here!"
It’s insane the level of details that you both read and watched to make a video comparing every single difference between them. That’s a commitment, especially for the later stories.
23:30 In the movie there was a camera crew member among the kids during the duel, but he is missing in the novel
Well they didn’t mean to add the camera man so this is irrelevant
@@demonslayershipper7582it’s a joke
IT WAS A MISTAKE!
Everytime, Vernon's picture is of him eating 😂😂
Yes! Finally! Someone mentioning that Snape's the one who caught Harry and Ron at the beginning of the year! I honestly find it to be such a funny part in the book that I don't understand why no one mentions it! (Ik you mentioned it cuz it's a different between the book and movie but a mention is a mention...)
@@MorganKing95 lol
Its likely that Yltherins actually abuse the
Magic-Detection-Abilities of the Ministry;
and rightfully so.
So all Slytherins get a Summer full of Training more
than other Houses, cause Smart!
Everyone clapping and cheering for Hagrid when he returned was a nice addition.
This is where my dislike for Movie Hermione came in. I’m a Ron Stan he’s my favorite character, but after seeing the movies and reading the books I disliked movie Hermione and Steve Kloves for over shining Ron. They did his character dirty. Because in the movies they had the Muggleborn have more knowledge then the Pureblood which made no sense.
finally someone i can relate to- i love book Hermione but i just cant with movie Hermione.(and i just HATE Harry x Hermione in the movies)
rightt, a pivotal part of Ron's character was that he was pureblood - he was raised with magic, which his two counterparts were not. He's the one who's meant to be knowledgeable in regards to wizard lore and terms
Damn, the movie writers loved Hermoine, giving her half of everyone else's lines lol
It was just the screenwriter who did that since he is the one who writes the scripts so they couldn't do anything about it
For real. Like how does this muggleborn kid even know the meaning of the word mudblood lmfao?? It doesn't make any sense for her to know that. However Ron, yes!
@@pxxv5370 The writer: sorry bout that she read it in a book bro
Ron was butchered so hard.
“Reading- I didn’t know you could read..?” That is my favorite improvised line 😂😂
1:07 Okay can we just take a moment to look at that amazing Lucius fanart. Like wow!
Professor Gilderoy Lockhart is such an under rated character. It was sad that the scene with him at the magical hospital later in the series showing everyone how insane he'd gone from the events of this book was cut out.
What is supposed to be tragic about a grifter &morally corrupt person getting what they deserve?
@@SG-pu3rx nothing would have been nice to see
im so excited for goblet of fire, order of phoenix and half blood prince.
i wanna see him roasting goblet and half blood prince
and see him praise order of the phoenix
What about prisoner of Azkaban
@@mariogame2145 i mean we have already seen him praise the prisoner of azkaban book, it'd be nice to see how amy differences are there
Clicked on faster than Ron can say "Bloody Hell"
I love the idea that Lucious was ready to use Avada on Harry
Dude is a huge egomaniacal narcissist and was heavilly humiliated and outsmarted by a studant and lost his Elf
Lucious got so shamed and mad and his inflated ego was so hurt that he lost all notion of consequences
I believe it fits the character perfectly
6:13
Funily enough, Harry does say "It's brilliant" in the book, but only in the UK edition, in the American version they changed the word to "wonderful".
So Hermione basically embodied both Ron AND her own loyalty and respect to Harry that were shown in the books, leaving Ron with mostly just the goofy sides to his character
And being scared of everything.
I clicked on this faster than the sorting hat can put draco in slytherin
Me too
Uhh
That was a good one😆
lmaoo
Its likely that Yltherins actually abuse the
Magic-Detection-Abilities of the Ministry;
and rightfully so.
So all Slytherins get a Summer full of Training more
than other Houses, cause Smart!
The amount of times Hermione takes some of Ron's best lines always vexes me it's why movie fans think Ron is useless and Hermione is the one that should be the leader
MovieFlame: "Knocked backwards a bit"
Gilderoy Lockhart when hit by Snape's spell: *flies backward 20 feet*
It’s funny how Hermione doesn’t get in trouble for actually doing the magic, but Harry was the scapegoat for Dobby doing magic. Also love your work 🤩
Another Hermione bias propaganda by the writer.
@@sreenivaskamath4243 honestly I’m not surprised he’s a Hermione fan. You didn’t have to be told.
Yer but she did it in the middle of the street when countless adults were around also doing magic. The trace to detect underage magic wouldn't work there. It is unusual for her to break a rule for no real reason though.
"Lost in Adaption", as its called.
For a reason.
because the trace cant actually tell who deos the magic. they just know harry is the only wizard living at 4 privet drive and if magic went off it was him. hermione doing magic in a magical place like diagon alley would just show magic was done near her in a magic area with magic adults
So sad that they make Ron so stupid in the movies when he is so much smarter in the book.
Quite the shame. At least his PS1 and GBC incarnations are faithful to the book.
As I read books and seen movies, I never thought he was stupid. Lets say that scene with a spider. Rupert Grint was really scared and I doubt it was just acting. And yes of course it was Ron who said what mudblood is.
@@klaudiagrob
Yeah he was portrayed as so
@@jovanym2931 well I never saw him as stupid in books and movies. But still in books sometimes his personality was annoying. He was never my favourite
In the book he is overshadowed by Hermione and Harry, which are monsters in comparison. In fact he was Prefect, means that he is not stupid.
You should have included Dumbledores and McGonagalls exchange after bringing Colin Creevey into hospital room. When Dumbledore says that chamber is opened again, McGonagall asks "Who" and Dumbledore interrupts and says that question is not "Who?" but "How?". It is a big difference than movies to show that Dumbledore is aware that Voldemort is heir and he's the one that can open the chamber.
Also, when Harry is explaining what happened, he is leaving out the part about Ginny opening the chamber of secrets to not get her into trouble, and Dumbledore asks something like "I just don't know how Voldemort enchanted Ginny into opening it when my sources tell me he is hiding in the forests of Albany" causing Harry to realize that Dumbledore is totally aware about what happened.
Just as clarification in case no one else has said it, "pudding" in England means all desserts. So it could have been a cake that she was making. It wasn't terribly descriptive of what the "pudding" was, only that it had lots of whipped cream and sugared violets. :)
16:11 19:16 23:33 Another reasons why Book Ron is smarter that Movie Ron
You are the most dedicated youtuber on youtube. A year and half of reading and watching. Great work
keep it up!!
I do like the ending in the movie with everyone cheering Hagrids return, it's a very nice moment, even if it is a little cringy with the clapping.
“Hagrid walks into the Great Hall to no fanfare.”
Me: “Why y’all gotta do him like that?”
Honestly, I kinda feel the opposite. It's one of the worst moments the films added, as it just goes too far into "cheesy" territory, and not in the good "Narm charm" kind of way. IIRC it was actually Chris Columbus who decided on this, and not something Kloves had in the script but I might be wrong.
it is too american tbh
I kinda skip the very ending of the film cause it makes me cringe a bit lol
I mean, the trio, Dumbledore and most of the staff would obviously be happy with Hagrid's return but it didn't make sense for all the students to be clapping as well, ESPECIALLY slytherins. I was like what the hell are y'all clapping for 💀💀
Fun fact the scene where lucius trys to use the killing curse on harry was also improvist. the actor that played him wanted to show how unstable lucius was and we had just finshed reading the goblet of fire sooooo. it was kept in the final cut to show how damn unstable lucius is.
“Improvist”?
@@CrappyVideoslife yes
Whadda you mean yes?
Also in the book, Hermione needed to immobilize the pixies one by one, whereas the movie she immobilized all of them at once
I mean it makes sense that she would know such a powerful spell.
Like they did in the videogame 😎
@@PikaLink91she’s very book smart, yes, but she’s not some all knowing witch. The movies made her wayyyy too smart & perfect. She’s not like that in the book. Of course she’s still incredibly smart & knows TONS of stuff, but she freezes & panics under pressure quite often.
@@nikkydalby7126 Well, you know... women gotta be perfect in movies. Only guys are flawed.
@@PikaLink91that’s the most bullshit I’ve ever heard in my life.
I can’t believe in COS, that the Weasleys think that Ginny was dead. I didn’t think they had a big enough reaction for their little sister being dead
this make it weirder when THE WHOLE FAMILY came to Ron when he was cursed. lol
@@dazzlingburritoes5693 ppl react differently to death, kids and teenagers especially, also Ron was known to be alive the fate of Ginney at that point was unknown
@@callmeishmael2415 yeah but at least the parents should come. it's not like they gonna "react differently" at home safely.
@@dazzlingburritoes5693 The bit that got me was that Percy was the one to write his parents
@@dazzlingburritoes5693 in the book, the family did come to the school
Just more examples of Ron’s character being needed.
Also, after the basilisk died. Tom Riddle was willing to fight Harry himself, as he became "real" enough to use magic with Harry's wand. Then Fawkes saved the day once more by throwing the diary next to Harry.
Also the book did a much much better job at explaining the attacks. In the book, every attack happened close to Myrtle's bathroom. The movie didn't show that except for the cat. "Pipes", the clue left by Hermione just means the basilisk is hiding in the chamber or in the walls most of the time and it can only come out from Myrtle's bathroom.
The way the movie depicted it, it felt like the basilisk could attack anywhere, as if it was able to somehow come out of the walls or something. Which didn't make sense, because if it could do that, they would be a lot more attacks
Really get a sense for how much the movies shit on Ron, to promote Hermione compared to the book
Imagine if Harry died by Quirrel in the first book, Voldemort would have been bored for the next six years
Xd he would never have risen to power though, without Harry, wormtail would get killed by Sirius so Voldemort wouldn’t get the follower he needed to rise.
He'd have found a way eventually.
He would've had the sorcerers stone
@@TheAlphatitan he was willing to kill Harry in the Philosopher’s Stone shouting “KILL HIM” at Quirrel
Quirrel actually couldn’t kill Harry because of the prophecy between Harry and Voldemort. It says that “Either must die at the hand of the other for neither can live while the other survives.” That means that according to the prophecy, neither Harry nor Voldemort can die unless the other one kills them. That’s why things get spicy from the Goblet of Fire and beyond because Voldemort had gained a body of his own
I really love the way Hagrid said "Pure Blood" @ 16:22. 😂
I think my favorite thing I heard about the behind the scenes is that in the scene in Dumbledore’s office with Lucius, Jason Isaac’s had asked where Dobby was meant to be and the director says wherever he wanted, and so while they were filming that scene they stopped and Chris Columbus asked someone to mop the floor where Isaac’s had slipped and he said that he hadn’t slipped, he had just kicked Dobby down the stairs😂
“Neville actually has blonde hair” WHY HAVE I NEVER KNEW THAT
Extreme minutia, this concern with hair color and signature clothing.
He wasn't super blond like Malfoy, just sandy hair.
“Much more thrilling problems” *cutely almost dies*
Tbh the thing that most surprised me after reading the book was how likable Gilderoy was, not as in a good person but more as a comic relief
When the Weasleys were searching frantically for Harry proves that they were more of a family to him than the Dursleys. Unlike the Dursleys, the Weasleys actually cared about Harry.
Why aren’t the Dursley’s good people? I don’t understand
@@JaelinBezel I like to think they are. They just hate the idea of magic and since Harry is a wizard, they hate him, even though he can't help what he is.
@@IzukuMidoriya38855 It’s stated that Vernon’s preferred method of management at work is shouting at and bullying his underlings.
@@IzukuMidoriya38855 and they’re both proud that Dudley doesn’t know who the Prime Minister is, suggesting they’re anti-intellectual
I love that books have a much more welcoming feeling than the movies, and that we see the characters enjoying the cosy atmosphere of the place or landscape in which they are.
Wait Neville had blonde hair in the books?
The illustrations are a lie!
I reread the first book a while back and nearly had a heart attack when I saw the blond description. I had spent years picturing him as a brunette, and the movies did, too, so it blew my little kid mind lol
OMG IM SO SHOCKED
@@lindseysquire8417 just imagine him the way u want .
@@HarryFernandes15 I do lol
The books never go into detail about Neville's hair either, so never mind
I always tell friends you can basically watch the first two films and then continue with the books because they're similar enough, you don't really miss any important differences.
It's wild to think about just how far from the books the rest of the films are when you can spend 39 minutes highlighting the differences in Chamber of Secrets.
It's just sad seeing that this kind of videos doesn't get much recognition. Some of the videos we see on the internet gets super popular with those stupid dance trends on TikTok, but quality content like this is being ignored by many. We need more content creators like this. ❤️
Yeah I watch movieflame like half my screen time.
JK Rowling herself said Devon Murray looks exactly how she imagined Seamus. So I guess that casting was good.
Hi Draco, how's Scorpious? (Idk how to spell it)
@@TM-tb4di he’s fine, thanks
Did you really think she would say “that casting was horrible”. It’s an objetive fact that his hair is different from the book, not an opinion. That doesn’t mean it is such a big deal
@@pedrorenault5335 I never implied any of that. I was just stating the fact that she said Devon looked exactly how she imagined Seamus. Relax, buddy.
How's Astoria
Also my last name is Umbridge so please feel free to be emotionally hurt, my great auntie in azcaban might feel happy
i love the fact that Tom Felton improvised while saying "i didn't know you could read"
22:42 "he was merely knocked down backwards a bit" *Morgan said calmly.*
I got a phone call while watching this and my ringtone is the Harry Potter theme
I believe "pudding" in British English means desert, hence the elaborate cake from the film
A pudding is sometimes a desert... Otherwise it is kinda like a 'custard'. For example a 'black pudding' is more like a sausage in flavor...
@@Al-ir6vb here, a pudding is any kind of dessert (Not the Sahara 'desert' though lol) so this means the 'cake' movie flame talks about is indeed a pudding.
Yeah cuz I’m 30 percent Chinese and 70 percent Canadian so I don’t understand British terms
Thank you so much for putting insane amounts of time into these videos. You deserve ever subscriber
I'm so glad you started making these videos, I just finished watching the movies with my gf and I kept getting confused since for some reason my mind had combined parts from the movies and books. Now I can see why I thought things were supposed to happen that didn't in the movies 🙏
5:35 - I’m pretty sure that’s meant to be a belated Happy Birthday wish. It wasn’t literally occurring on the same day
9:39 I always thought that the no-magic-outside-school law was so stupid in the books because, while it makes sense that one shouldn't do magic in the Muggle world, even as an adult, it makes no sense in the wizarding world because that's their own world, it'd be just the same as doing magic at Hogwarts!
I totally agree
Agreed
Agreed
The fact that you decided to post the video on 23rd anniversary of the release of Chamber of Secrets book.
Can be a co-incidence too but it was *BRILLIANT* (😁)
❤️
Bloody hell!
Fun fact, the entire script for this video was originally said by Ron.
26:05 actually didn’t know he improvised that line, that’s some great talent for a child actor.
Such a funny line to.
Chamber of secrets film was honestly so good now that I come back to it. It’s actually one of my favourite films of the series
Yeah! It’s definitely in my top 3 with POA and GOF
It's definitely the most faithful, and has some of my favourite lighting in a film.
@@ultrairrelevantnobody1862 the first and second films IMO were the best. They were overall faithful to the books which I liked a lot. And I also agree with the lighting. The first and second movies had that warm feeling with the lighting. It was amazing
@@gotz1516 agreed
It’s my main favorite it made me a Harry Potter fan.😇
"He walked in to no applause."
🥺 I'm glad they added it in the movie then
Yeah idk why people hate this change
It's a heartwarming moment, but to be honest has little sense. Most students does not give af about Hagrid.
To be fair, the book doesn't explicitly say no one applauded, it just doesn't go into any detail. Everything that happened at the feast was all condensed into one paragraph.
@@Nahue91Carp This. Chalk me down as another who hated it. Hagrid had almost no hand in saving the school that year so why the hell was the whole student body applauding him? If anything they should have been applauding the Trio; they did almost all of the work (again).
Well, the thing is that in the books Hagrid isn't appreciated that much by the students, since only Dumbledore, Harry, Ron, Hermione and the rest of the Weasleys are aware of his past and what he had to go through. In the movie they act like everyone knows the truth and that they can't live without him, which doesn't make much sense.
It truly makes no sense that they keep giving Hermione Ron’s exposition. He grew up a wizard in an extremely magical family, she was born to muggles, so why would she just know this stuff? Like I know she studies a lot but it makes more sense for Ron to explain things first.
Thanks for making these, I haven’t read the books in 15 years so they’re really jogging my memory.
I gotta say MovieFlame. These are absolutely amazing. The amount of people effort that you’ve put into this is insane. Keep up the great work, I cannot wait to see this as a complete series
Chamber is definitely the most underrated hp movie
Debatable The half blood Prince is way better, however a lot of ppl like GOF
@@callmeishmael2415 it depends if you see them as standalone films or book adaptations. Half blood Prince and goblet are the worst adaptations but if you haven't read the books and just watch the movies I agree they are pretty good. Philosopher's stone and chamber are the best and most faithful adaptations
@@matteoairaghi790 seen and read them muliple times and hope to introduce my kids to it in a couple of years, I still think GOF is the worst book and movie hands down
@@callmeishmael2415 the goblet of fire book is not bad, the movie is probably the worst I agree
@@callmeishmael2415
Lol that one is the worst adaptation and movie . The best movie is poa
wow... the CoS video is already thirty-nine minutes- and the Chamber of Secrets movie is a _pretty_ accurate adaptation compare to the later movies. It makes me wonder how long the GoF and HBP videos are XD
2-4 hours maybe more
@@filipfilip1507 an hour and 40-50 minutes
I hated that how in movie they kept giving Ron's lines to Hermoine. Hermione was smart but she just like Harry was raised in a Muggle world so she was unaware of many things in magical world that Ron knew and Grew up with. I didn't understand why Hermoine was always the one and why Ron's charcter was dwindling more and more. 😐😑😒😒
2 other differences:
1. In the book Lockhart was wearing a purple cloak not a golden one.
2. Harry found out Lockhart lost his memory after he saved Ginny, while in the movie Harry found it out right after it happened.
In the deleted scenes/edited addition Flich's letter was in the beginning in Snape's office, and I haven't read the book in year but remember Tom telling the basilisk to smell for Harry in more parseltongue, whereas in the movie Tom tells Harry it can still hear him out.
You should mention this how hagrid tell harry, ron and hermione that why dumbledore choose Gilderoy as defense against the dark arts teacher because he was the last person no one want to join Hogwarts as DADA teacher.
he also says he thinks its jinxed which foreshadows it being revealed later that tom riddle did that because he was rejected from the position!
i watched u when u hit one mil and a long time before that and i learned a lot of things about harry potter thx
@MovieFlame would you do a video on the book vs. the show on The Shannara Chronicles? And another video on the book vs. the movie on the Divergent film trilogy?