Interesting: cypriot Greek belongs to the Arcado-cypriot family of dialects, that also contains Pamphylian Greek and Arcadian Greek. 1) Arcadian Greek was the descendant of Achaean Greek, that was pushed to the interior of the Peloponnese by the Dorians. 2) Pamphylia is literally halfway between Greece and Cyprus, and just to the east of Lycia. Pamphylia was settled by Achaens, and not Ionians, Dorians or Aeolians. So the Arcado-Cypriot dialects literally trace this invasion's path. Amazing!
The Cypriot Greek you talk about died around 300BC, while the one that exists today descents from Ionian Greek(Koine) due to Alexander the Great like all other existing Greek dialects other than Tsakonian
What do you think about the Dana island shipyards ruins they found in 2016? Dated to 1200bc. would be quite the staging ground for Greek raids in the area
@@WanaxTV they say it's the largest shipyard yet found. Plays a big role in "the note of wenamun" where an Egyptian noble records the fall of the Hittites from a sea peoples prisoner
The doc is a bit misleading. It makew it look like that Eteocypriots were the locals and were invaded by Greeks. False! Eteocypriots were mainly in Amathus city, but there were already several other Greek cities founded by the Acheans after the Trojan War. They settled, not invaded. Kourion city was already mentioned in Egyptian scrolls in 1200 BC.
Ahhiyawa is the Hittite rendering of word “Achaea”. Achaeans is how the Mycenaeans generally referred to themselves. Also there are numerous letters of correspondence between the Hittite and Achaean rulers. I don’t think that there are any scholars left that are in disagreement with it, considering the amount of evidence, which only keeps increasing.
@@thutmoseahmose5128 Well it is hardly an opinion or a theory at this point. It was ~30 years ago perhaps but so much additional evidence has been discovered since then. There is no ‘other’ theory that is even remotely accepted. Hittites in fact used ‘Ahhiya’ originally c. 1400 BC, which evolved into ‘Ahhiyawa’ in the later centuries due to Hittite’s own linguistic changes. Both words refer to ‘Achaeans’ and the area is they controlled. Once again, that’s not an opinion, but a historical fact available on all the leading universities and I’d be happy to present it to you if you wish.
I love these Achean-Hittite encounters... thanks for putting stuff like this out, really appreciate it!
Thank you for the feedback! There will be more videos like this for sure. 💯
Loving this series. Great work mate.
Thank you, I really appreciate it man. I plan to continue on the topic, there will definitely be more videos on the Greek-Hittite matters!
i got this video as an ad, and it caught my attention and i ended up watching the whole thing completely forgetting that it was an ad, great work bro!
Thanks brother, appreciate it. That means that I must be doing something right! I put the videos on every Saturday, welcome aboard!
Interesting: cypriot Greek belongs to the Arcado-cypriot family of dialects, that also contains Pamphylian Greek and Arcadian Greek.
1) Arcadian Greek was the descendant of Achaean Greek, that was pushed to the interior of the Peloponnese by the Dorians.
2) Pamphylia is literally halfway between Greece and Cyprus, and just to the east of Lycia. Pamphylia was settled by Achaens, and not Ionians, Dorians or Aeolians.
So the Arcado-Cypriot dialects literally trace this invasion's path. Amazing!
The Cypriot Greek you talk about died around 300BC, while the one that exists today descents from Ionian Greek(Koine) due to Alexander the Great like all other existing Greek dialects other than Tsakonian
@@PanzerTank946 what has this got to do with what i mentioned earlier? I don't understand
@@PanzerTank946Now I re-read your comment, that makes perfect sense. Yes, I am referring to the ancient cypriot greek language, not the modern
Madyates us surely the most underrated villain of the Bronze Age, truly.
Just arrived in Cyprus and reviewing all your videos on the topic. Fascinating content.
This story can answer , why the accent of greek language, we speak in my island, in Greece, is so similar to the greek they speak in Cyprus.
This is a truly fantastic documentary.
Awesome video! What a series the indictment of Madduwatta would make
Hey man, great content. I was wondering if you could recommend a book or anything on this topic and other Hittite-Mycenaean wars?
Great work, it almost seems you have a time machine.
East, not West. I have noticed this mistake made a couple of times. Overall, good video.
I want to know how Aphrodite arrived in Paphos Cyprus, historically speaking.
What do you think about the Dana island shipyards ruins they found in 2016? Dated to 1200bc. would be quite the staging ground for Greek raids in the area
I’ve read it but I don’t know much except for its impressive size. I’ll do some research on it for sure.
@@WanaxTV they say it's the largest shipyard yet found. Plays a big role in "the note of wenamun" where an Egyptian noble records the fall of the Hittites from a sea peoples prisoner
Does this have anything to do with the creation of the Rosecrutions?
Matyattes are writing Madduwata in Wikipedia.
Not beyond possibility certainly, but highly theoretic, even speculative.
The doc is a bit misleading. It makew it look like that Eteocypriots were the locals and were invaded by Greeks. False! Eteocypriots were mainly in Amathus city, but there were already several other Greek cities founded by the Acheans after the Trojan War. They settled, not invaded. Kourion city was already mentioned in Egyptian scrolls in 1200 BC.
This is essentially wild speculation on the basis of exceptionally limited evidence.
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Don't be so sure that ahiywa is mycenae
Ahhiyawa is the Hittite rendering of word “Achaea”. Achaeans is how the Mycenaeans generally referred to themselves. Also there are numerous letters of correspondence between the Hittite and Achaean rulers. I don’t think that there are any scholars left that are in disagreement with it, considering the amount of evidence, which only keeps increasing.
@@WanaxTV personally as an independent scholar I disagree with this opinion and more researches must be made
As a Greek I can confirm that this makes much more sense in Greek.
Achaeans or whatever is pronounced “ahei” = “aheyawi”
@@thutmoseahmose5128 Well it is hardly an opinion or a theory at this point. It was ~30 years ago perhaps but so much additional evidence has been discovered since then. There is no ‘other’ theory that is even remotely accepted. Hittites in fact used ‘Ahhiya’ originally c. 1400 BC, which evolved into ‘Ahhiyawa’ in the later centuries due to Hittite’s own linguistic changes. Both words refer to ‘Achaeans’ and the area is they controlled. Once again, that’s not an opinion, but a historical fact available on all the leading universities and I’d be happy to present it to you if you wish.
@@WanaxTV pff idiologue