Chris, Imagine how different your whole life would have been if you had chosen the Silverado back then. Crazy how choosing the Tesla changed your path!
I just rolled over 14k miles and I picked mine up about 2 weeks after you. My biggest issue was the low voltage wiring harness was bad. After a month of being in the shop it has driven perfectly. I do have to have my wiper motor replaced as it shakes pretty bad over the speed of 70mph. The vehicle definitely still has a lot of interest and I talk with almost everyone that asks. My only upgrade I am thinking of are road tires for towing my RV.
So a brand new vehicle has already been in the shop for a month, and also now has a second issue. After a mere 14k miles. And you do not find that unacceptable? Tesla Stans really do say "hit me again, daddy Elon".
YESSIR! I just got my non-Foundation CT invitation Friday, Oct. 4th. I did sign up for the Tri-motor with FSD, @ $7k, at reservation (a week after reveal), and with state of Washington sales tax and all of the little extras, it cost me ~$120K... I have Power Wall 3's so we have the hardware for power-share. Have filled out all of the app forms, have been saving (for 5 years) so just waiting for the text/e-mail telling me my truck is ready!! I think all the folks that have been waiting around me are even more excited that I'm finally getting my truck! Thanks for the update!
dude, you don’t seem like a douche but sincerely excited for this. Watch more honest reviews and check out the insurance companies that have decided not to cover this model
isn't that a simple setting? in the mercedes EQA you can switch between "comport" or "sport" tbh i only switch to "sport" with a dedicated switch if i drive up-mountain to get the extra "umpf" when overtake others
Thanks for the great video. We’ve owned our CT for about 4 months and no issues so far. Nice balanced review. The CT isn’t for everyone but no vehicle made makes everyone happy. My wife was against it but now she is its biggest fan! She keeps telling people, “It’s like driving a spaceship!” What ever that means. Keep making these videos, I learn a lot about what my CT can do from you.
@@ChrisLeiter I’ve only had a few minor issues of a whistling noise up above the front passenger seat that was fixed, and all future trucks are gonna have a lot of the features at the cyber truck has, they just don’t it yet. The truck was not rushed out and definitely had quite a bit of refinement in the last five years everybody’s been waiting for it. There’s a lot of easy soft fixes that I hope it comes sooner rather than later. Because it needs it, but it would just make it better.
The other thing to consider when comparing to having to stop for gas is even if you’re only spending five minutes at the gas station frequently you will change your organization of stops or your route to go by your preferred gas station so realistically that’s taking you more time than just the amount of time you actually spend at the gas station
Yeah, back when we had a gasser, we left at least 15 min early if needing to stop. Just a couple days ago, my wife noted how nice it has been never having to leave early for fuel since getting our Tesla.
I put new 1/4 panel on myself. $550 for panel and $100 at my friends garage. Tesla solar w Powerwall, as of now I am not eligible for Powershare because of a switch that is between home and grid. No time frame from Tesla when this will be resolved, Tesla says it will be resolved w software but not when. So I will be using my credit for winter tires. FSD IS BEST SO FAR! 411 whm
The charging curve is better when you consider how efficient it is. The chevy may charge faster, but it likely ends up gaining about the same distance at a higher cost
My major issue: no pass thru to the bed. I realize the tonneau cover situation but there's got to be a work-around like a "fail safe" mechanical latching that prevents the cover from moving if the pass thru is opened. Lowering the glass would also be a nice part of that. Minor issue: a more multi-flexible tailgate like a 180 degree drop and, come on, a step area on the bumpers on both sides. The "A" pillars obstruction is not a big deal because in my Dodge I have giant mirrors where I can't see anything either requiring a lot of caution. The tray accessory under the back seats and the divider for the bed should have been standard in the Foundation Series but I will spring for those. One word review: SMOOTH.
For the amount of times you might use it Tesla felt its complexity was not needed for the initial versions. Maybe in 10 years they will update it and engineer it in.
Aye congrats on 10k man, I’m about to hit 20k on my Model 3 Performance haha. Wanted the car for YEARS, was super happy to finally get one. FSD is also incredible as well. 😄🥳
Rear view camera (above the vault) and or a new rear view mirror that is a screen seem essential. Other than that I think you pretty much nailed the review.
I 100% agree on the bed camera, definitely should have that. As for the rearview mirror, I got used to the current setup. I just want an option to see rear view and repeaters simultaneously
Mine has that same creak. Tesla fixed it once but it came back, trying again. For me it is the center console. Great to hear about hwy range, got our first road trip coming up. Great review, matches our experience. FSD is solid and still works with a hitch rack and bikes - I haven’t seen anyone test that.
18:21 That price is crazy low and an honest good as new repair. On a regular truck they would have probably wanted to do metal work over replace the whole bed, and then the truck would have bodywork instead of an honest new panel.
"Anyone who's been skeptical has been blown away by the experience." Yep. I no longer drive my Model Y...Since 12.5.4 I've been sitting back and watching. No one, even most Tesla owners has any clue how good it really is. I feel bad when I see new cars. They just didn't know... Even if you don't want or can't afford FSD, it's a mistake to buy a new vehicle without the option.
@Trouble-v1m If 10% of the Teslas on the road are driving full FSD, that is 300,000. If there was a serious problem it would already be widespread. Yes, driving is fun. I've been doing it for 50 years. I'm really good at it. (US Combat pilots in WWII went to war with 500 hours of flight time. I probably have 25,000 or more.) FSD is amazing, relaxing, incredibly interesting. Soon, we'll be able to nap.
I made my reservation in 2021. Per "Cybertruck Owners Club" I was approx 1 millionth in line. I got my invite to finalize my order on the 11th. Estimated delivery oct-Nov 2024. SOOO stoked!
So let me get this straight. Despite the huge spec reduction, massive price uplift, major known issues, you are STILL going ahead with your purchase? Doesn't the fact millions got their $100 refunded tell you anything?
@@stuartburns8657 🤣 "Millions" didn't refund. They simply allowed *all* pre-orders to order at once time, once foundation series ended. Price increase is nearly identical to inflation during the same time period. "Huge spec reduction" Not sure WTF your even talking about. I have my reasons for buying it, and that part didn't change. Yes, it is *exceptionally* pricey, but still within my allotted budget for my high quality armored personnel carrier. :P I've been exceptionally frugal my whole life, so that in my 'old age' I can splurge on luxuries such as this, on very rare occasion. To each their own. ;)
@@eclecticgamer5144 To each their own indeed sir. You may wish to to peruse Reddit's Cyberstuck forum, in which you'll see other ardent Musk and Tesla fanatics, lamenting about catastrophic issues with their 'high quality' vehicles. According to Tesla, 1 million ppl ordered CT's, but after 25,000 odd sales, they've exhausted the list and it's now open to anyone. Value is indeed in the eye of the beholder. I do sincerely hope Elon's vanity project doesn't disappoint you, and good luck with that retirement 🙏
@@eclecticgamer5144 I hope you avoid all the issues that are plaguing then. I wish you the best with your high quality vehicle, value is indeed in the eyes of the beholder
If people who are 1,000,000 in line reservation holders can get their trucks now and 40k or so trucks have been sold so far it doesn't really seem like there are millions of reservation holders who still want the truck. 1,000,000 - 40,000 should mean there are still 960k reservation holders in front of you if they still had the reservations.
Yeah, I reserved Sept 2023 and got an invite July 2023 ! I went into the Tesla shop in Santa Monica, and asked how long my wait would be (back in Sept 2023 - and Tesla was beginning production Oct 2023). The representative laughed and said “oh… could be many years” Looks like indeed, many reservation holders are passing on it. I’m personally going to pull the trigger for the RWD version/if the price comes closer to 55-60k.
I can think of a few changes that I'd like to see in the Cybertruck: The option for an insulated steel roof instead of glass (too hot in the summer for those in the south), redesign the side windows to be "framed" instead of "frameless" (on all Teslas), Put a rear view camera on the back of the roof so it doesn't get dirty and can be used when the tunneau is closed.
I remember hearing they put the paper work in months ago. Tesla also reportedly listed the Cyberbeast in the paper too for the same price, $80K. Maybe Tesla is keeping their option open.
I don't like speculating on how much energy is being used for batt pre-heating. Would be nice to see the value somewhere in the car. Only then can be make an informed decision on if we feel it's worth the charging speed boost of a heated pack.
Thanks Chris. I just want one. My only problem: I’m in Australia 🇦🇺 so have to wait till it comes downunder. (Hopefully that’s just a couple of years at most.)
I suspect if you keep it pushing and charge more than once the heating won't hurt so bad, but they're likely optimized for time over efficiency as you speculate there.
Your truck's efficiency is incredibly impressive! I'm running a small roof rack but my lifetime is closer to 500Wh/mi. City is closer to 450Wh/mi, and highway is 550-600Wh/mi depending on the day. 409 is impressive!
Yeah aero is definitely the biggest factor so a roof rack is gonna murder it. I'm pretty happy with it, but winter is gonna make efficiency worse. We'll see how much
I’m at 326 over 1400 miles. Just regular suburban driving. Minimal highways. That works out to nearly 390 miles on a full charge. Better than expected.
7:20 well, the Model Y is very light compared to the Cybertruck. Such a heavy vehicle tends to fishtail a lot more and if you're not used to that, you will loose control very quickly. So Tesla did the right thing there and put this behind an "offroad mode" button. :)
@@DirtyTesla just hit that damn offroad button, if you want to ;) In all seriousness: Fish tailing a heavy vehicle is no fun for most people, as they will instinctively overcompensate the steering input, leading to something which is called pilot induced oscillation in aviation. So they will fishtail until they either spin out or crash. I think it's good that Tesla tried to mitigate this. :)
I see you as well as many other people online have removed the rearview mirror. I’m surprised no aftermarket company has made a insert that pops in there to allow you to have a camera system for recording for your videos. Now that you have self driving it would be pretty neat to have a camera thereto see out the windshield as well as into the cab at the same time would be pretty cool if something like that could be set up
I must tell you i feel for your loss. According to your Wifey she does not give it back to you, now that FSD works. You are now demoted to the Y. What a major loss for man-kind, how can i help you?
Thank you Chris for such an amazing Cybertruck review! I plan to buy a used Cybertruck in 10 years. I hope to drive it across the USA from coast to coast! Max
even at 350Wh/mi that's like 218Wh/km which is about 60Wh/km more than my model 3. Over a say 250,000 km lifespan of the vehicle is 6.2MWh more energy used in the CT vs the M3.
@@RedvinezYGO The CT is very aerodynamic by the way. But it's mass is the culprit. Also, I believe it's more efficient than all other Pickups, maybe even the "étron".
@@maxpelletier2237 it’s not even the most aerodynamic electric truck, it’s aero is good considering its shape but otherwise any car company actually trying to make something aerodynamic clears it For instance the etron is notoriously inefficient because it wasn’t trying to be
I think I may have had a similar creaky seat in my model Y. It ended up fixing itself after I moved the seat forward and back a ton trying to find where it was coming from. You might give that a shot with the passenger seat
Thank you for the great video. Did you have the chance to drive a model X? I currently own a 2024 MX LR. Comfort, ride quality, and cabin noise are on top of my priority list as I do A LOT of driving. Between the CB and the MX, which would you say is the better ride? Thank you!
Yeah th-cam.com/video/2alKR-C5vFs/w-d-xo.html I talk about our X service issues midway through the video. Cybertruck is better ride quality and more quiet than X, although X was also great.
@@DirtyTesla Thank you for the quick response. Now I don't feel bad placing my invitation order for the non-foundation. Already got a vin. Now waiting for the delivery date!
Love the non foundation CT (especially with the eventual 7500 Point of Sale). Really wish camp mode AC/heat could extend to the truck bed for more car camping versatility🙏🎉
Could you send the damaged steel panels to a machine shop for a tensile test? I'm curious to see the full curve, not just strength but also elongation and toughness. Might be one of the toughest steel alloys ever made. Thank's
How about "Cross Traffic Alert? That is the missing feature on all Teslas!! It should be coupled with the rear camera, don't you think? A great video. Thanks for your insights.
Didn't get the All Terrain tires with our Foundation series, which should be figured into the numbers. (But will have the Premium Connectivity for hopefully a decade or two, so that helps...)
I wonder if for the "heating" it is really just stopping the cooling loop from running in the battery, and letting internal heat just warm the pack. Any numbers on that, i.e. seeing discharge curve get steeper when preconditioning going on?
There are apps and dongles on the CAN-bus you can use on other Teslas and the batteries are definitely actively heated. You can see the inlet temperature on the cooling water going higher than the outlet temperature. I don't know if they have any apps like that working on the Cybertruck yet, since the computer network in the car is of a new type, too. If you watch Teslabjorn videos, he usually has some sort of device hooked up to get extra nerdy data.
I'm interested to see what improvements they make over the coming years. The tonneau cover seems to break/come lose off-roading. That A-pillar cover has come loose for numerous owners. Every owner seems to agree that the rear-view mirror should be replaced by a screen/camera, especially one where you can switch between looking behind or looking at the cargo space. Many people also asking for a spare tire. Maybe they can make that work as an option instead of the under-bed storage. #1 thing would be having a 500mi range option for those who want to tow or go farther off the beaten track, power their cabin, that kind of thing. With some newer batteries claiming 500W/kg, that could potentially be done in the not-too-distant-future without adding any weight.
The evaluations should be slotted into categories. Such as suitability for what you intended to use it for, the UI or user experience of driving it, the cosmetic issues, and the one that I would be most interested in. RELIABILITY, vehicles after all are TRANSPORTATION, was there ever an incident where you had to find alternate transportation when you were on the road? Did it always get you there and back with no hassles?
Chris, I just got my non-Foundation invite, BUT I'm at about 402,000 (according to the tracker on Cybertruck Owners Forum). I did my pre-order 15 days after the Nov 2019 reveal. So why did I get one of the first non-Foundation invites? Could it be that there were that many cancellations?!!
I did want to quickly mention that for the standard range model 3 and standard range model Ys when they were a thing Tesla did and does place an artificial delay on the acceleration
I converted my day 1 reservation to an order right after I got the invite to the non-foundation series, thinking it qualified for the tax credit (because Tesla previously said it would likely qualify and it even showed up on the EPA site with the under $80,000 price). But then I found out it didn't and they wouldn't let me go back to my spot in the reservation line and I had to pay a $250 penalty to cancel on top of it all. So I got totally screwed over and Tesla just doesn't care. Brand loyalty seriously damaged with that move. :( If you have A/Z plan, you can get a Lightning Flash for $51,725 plus tax after all the discounts vs $79.995 with Cybertruck, so that's where I'm looking at for now.
10:05 the energy you waste in heat while charging fast should not affect the total capacity you reach, you're "just" gonna use more electricity, pay more, and reduce the expected lifespan of your battery a bit faster. Shouldn't affect autonomy I believe. (doesn't mean I like Tesla ;))
Hey, we had a late 1000 vin and we had the same problem a lot earlier, it is the center console, as a temporary fix we also sprayed some foam filler spray or something like that I don’t know exactly,but I hope that helps you16:14
I got an email in July that the wheel covers and light bar were going to be ready soon. I’m wondering if I should be contacting them to make sure they didn’t forget about me.
Hilarious people still think that the Cybertruck is a meme car with no practical value. Hear weird stuff like that outside of Tesla channels a lot. People can't get past the exterior, and the fact that this is an EV.
It's a car for cult members. You are burning money to buy an inferior toy car all to play stock market games and suck up to a drug addict corrupt apartheid trust fund baby. But you do you. It's your money and time to waste.
You live in such a warm climate, it’s sounds odd that you would need to warm the battery on every charge. And you get to drive reasonable speeds, so the energy usage should keep it warm.
Lifetime connectivity has an asterisk to note that defines lifetime as 8 years. Ps my utility said would look at PowerShare as someone with generator. Need to make sure the cut off of feed line is working for safety of line people
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Thanks!
Chris, Imagine how different your whole life would have been if you had chosen the Silverado back then. Crazy how choosing the Tesla changed your path!
Insane...
@Trouble-v1m Yeah... Nothing special to make videos about... Just a plain oldlooking boring truck.
I saw you around town the other day a couple weeks back, its awesome to see you enjoying it
Thanks, really enjoyed your conversation after 6 months.
I just rolled over 14k miles and I picked mine up about 2 weeks after you. My biggest issue was the low voltage wiring harness was bad. After a month of being in the shop it has driven perfectly.
I do have to have my wiper motor replaced as it shakes pretty bad over the speed of 70mph.
The vehicle definitely still has a lot of interest and I talk with almost everyone that asks.
My only upgrade I am thinking of are road tires for towing my RV.
So a brand new vehicle has already been in the shop for a month, and also now has a second issue. After a mere 14k miles. And you do not find that unacceptable? Tesla Stans really do say "hit me again, daddy Elon".
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Dude is crazy , I would be totally pissed off if I paid all that money and it sits for a month right off the bat.
YESSIR! I just got my non-Foundation CT invitation Friday, Oct. 4th. I did sign up for the Tri-motor with FSD, @ $7k, at reservation (a week after reveal), and with state of Washington sales tax and all of the little extras, it cost me ~$120K... I have Power Wall 3's so we have the hardware for power-share. Have filled out all of the app forms, have been saving (for 5 years) so just waiting for the text/e-mail telling me my truck is ready!! I think all the folks that have been waiting around me are even more excited that I'm finally getting my truck! Thanks for the update!
dude, you don’t seem like a douche but sincerely excited for this. Watch more honest reviews and check out the insurance companies that have decided not to cover this model
Omg yes thanks for talking about the pedal delay on most other EVs. Drives me NUTS
isn't that a simple setting?
in the mercedes EQA you can switch between "comport" or "sport"
tbh i only switch to "sport" with a dedicated switch if i drive up-mountain to get the extra "umpf" when overtake others
@@timkeklinker delay only on comfort and standard once you put it on beast it’s literally instant and you have to be careful.
Thanks for the great video. We’ve owned our CT for about 4 months and no issues so far.
Nice balanced review. The CT isn’t for everyone but no vehicle made makes everyone happy.
My wife was against it but now she is its biggest fan! She keeps telling people, “It’s like driving a spaceship!” What ever that means.
Keep making these videos, I learn a lot about what my CT can do from you.
just rolled over 11,000 miles this weekend and I could not be happier. Such an amazing vehicle.
Lol 😂
@@ChrisLeiter I’ve only had a few minor issues of a whistling noise up above the front passenger seat that was fixed, and all future trucks are gonna have a lot of the features at the cyber truck has, they just don’t it yet. The truck was not rushed out and definitely had quite a bit of refinement in the last five years everybody’s been waiting for it. There’s a lot of easy soft fixes that I hope it comes sooner rather than later. Because it needs it, but it would just make it better.
My love of the Cybertruck is irrational and not amenable to rational analysis ... but I still like watching reviews.
The other thing to consider when comparing to having to stop for gas is even if you’re only spending five minutes at the gas station frequently you will change your organization of stops or your route to go by your preferred gas station so realistically that’s taking you more time than just the amount of time you actually spend at the gas station
Yeah, back when we had a gasser, we left at least 15 min early if needing to stop. Just a couple days ago, my wife noted how nice it has been never having to leave early for fuel since getting our Tesla.
I put new 1/4 panel on myself. $550 for panel and $100 at my friends garage.
Tesla solar w Powerwall, as of now I am not eligible for Powershare because of a switch that is between home and grid. No time frame from Tesla when this will be resolved, Tesla says it will be resolved w software but not when. So I will be using my credit for winter tires.
FSD IS BEST SO FAR!
411 whm
Helpful review. You answered most of my questions as I wait for the $7500 credit to be approved (hopefully).
The charging curve is better when you consider how efficient it is. The chevy may charge faster, but it likely ends up gaining about the same distance at a higher cost
Hilarious watching people try to make excuses for the undersized battery in the Cybertruck.
My major issue: no pass thru to the bed. I realize the tonneau cover situation but there's got to be a work-around like a "fail safe" mechanical latching that prevents the cover from moving if the pass thru is opened. Lowering the glass would also be a nice part of that. Minor issue: a more multi-flexible tailgate like a 180 degree drop and, come on, a step area on the bumpers on both sides. The "A" pillars obstruction is not a big deal because in my Dodge I have giant mirrors where I can't see anything either requiring a lot of caution. The tray accessory under the back seats and the divider for the bed should have been standard in the Foundation Series but I will spring for those. One word review: SMOOTH.
For the amount of times you might use it Tesla felt its complexity was not needed for the initial versions. Maybe in 10 years they will update it and engineer it in.
How many trucks have pass through to the bed?
Make your own pass through!
@@bobbyr8071literally every other truck on the market
@@theredriderakathedriplord1214 I mean a full pass through where u can put plywood, not the stupid little useless sliding window that nobody uses
Great update and fantastic to see that you are enjoying it so much.
Perhaps one, if not the best videos you have ever made. Thank you.
Aye congrats on 10k man, I’m about to hit 20k on my Model 3 Performance haha. Wanted the car for YEARS, was super happy to finally get one. FSD is also incredible as well. 😄🥳
Rear view camera (above the vault) and or a new rear view mirror that is a screen seem essential. Other than that I think you pretty much nailed the review.
I 100% agree on the bed camera, definitely should have that.
As for the rearview mirror, I got used to the current setup. I just want an option to see rear view and repeaters simultaneously
Here in South Florida I see 3 to 4 Cybertrucks a day. Sometimes 2 in the same parking lot. So here the novelty factor is already long gone.
Mine has that same creak. Tesla fixed it once but it came back, trying again. For me it is the center console. Great to hear about hwy range, got our first road trip coming up. Great review, matches our experience. FSD is solid and still works with a hitch rack and bikes - I haven’t seen anyone test that.
18:21
That price is crazy low and an honest good as new repair. On a regular truck they would have probably wanted to do metal work over replace the whole bed, and then the truck would have bodywork instead of an honest new panel.
"Anyone who's been skeptical has been blown away by the experience." Yep. I no longer drive my Model Y...Since 12.5.4 I've been sitting back and watching. No one, even most Tesla owners has any clue how good it really is. I feel bad when I see new cars. They just didn't know... Even if you don't want or can't afford FSD, it's a mistake to buy a new vehicle without the option.
It’s an add on that doesn’t appeal to me at all.
@@singed8853 Someday, someone will remind you that you wrote this. Or some hacker will send us fanboys off cliffs.
@Trouble-v1m If 10% of the Teslas on the road are driving full FSD, that is 300,000. If there was a serious problem it would already be widespread. Yes, driving is fun. I've been doing it for 50 years. I'm really good at it. (US Combat pilots in WWII went to war with 500 hours of flight time. I probably have 25,000 or more.) FSD is amazing, relaxing, incredibly interesting. Soon, we'll be able to nap.
@@WillN2Go1 I use it all the time and its just as you described. Strange how desperate some are that it be a failure
I made my reservation in 2021. Per "Cybertruck Owners Club" I was approx 1 millionth in line. I got my invite to finalize my order on the 11th. Estimated delivery oct-Nov 2024.
SOOO stoked!
So let me get this straight.
Despite the huge spec reduction, massive price uplift, major known issues, you are STILL going ahead with your purchase?
Doesn't the fact millions got their $100 refunded tell you anything?
@@stuartburns8657 🤣 "Millions" didn't refund. They simply allowed *all* pre-orders to order at once time, once foundation series ended.
Price increase is nearly identical to inflation during the same time period.
"Huge spec reduction" Not sure WTF your even talking about.
I have my reasons for buying it, and that part didn't change.
Yes, it is *exceptionally* pricey, but still within my allotted budget for my high quality armored personnel carrier. :P
I've been exceptionally frugal my whole life, so that in my 'old age' I can splurge on luxuries such as this, on very rare occasion.
To each their own. ;)
@@eclecticgamer5144 To each their own indeed sir.
You may wish to to peruse Reddit's Cyberstuck forum, in which you'll see other ardent Musk and Tesla fanatics, lamenting about catastrophic issues with their 'high quality' vehicles.
According to Tesla, 1 million ppl ordered CT's, but after 25,000 odd sales, they've exhausted the list and it's now open to anyone.
Value is indeed in the eye of the beholder.
I do sincerely hope Elon's vanity project doesn't disappoint you, and good luck with that retirement 🙏
@@eclecticgamer5144 I hope you avoid all the issues that are plaguing then.
I wish you the best with your high quality vehicle, value is indeed in the eyes of the beholder
Already a million have b
Bro just SOLD me on a CYBERTRUCK..
Thanks for your honest and straightforward update.
2:25 this is not true. The $7,500 credit does work if you are a company
If people who are 1,000,000 in line reservation holders can get their trucks now and 40k or so trucks have been sold so far it doesn't really seem like there are millions of reservation holders who still want the truck. 1,000,000 - 40,000 should mean there are still 960k reservation holders in front of you if they still had the reservations.
Yeah, I reserved Sept 2023 and got an invite July 2023 !
I went into the Tesla shop in Santa Monica, and asked how long my wait would be (back in Sept 2023 - and Tesla was beginning production Oct 2023). The representative laughed and said “oh… could be many years”
Looks like indeed, many reservation holders are passing on it.
I’m personally going to pull the trigger for the RWD version/if the price comes closer to 55-60k.
one complaint: they need to add electrostatic charges to the stainless steel to fling off all that dirt!
@27:00 The truck is missing a couple things: front bench seat from reveal, and needs a rear camera washer. Smaller wheel option
I did not want white interior. Ordered NON Foundation Series Saturday. I figure that with FSD and Larger Wheels, I still saved 8k. 😊
I got Foundation without white. I didnt even realize I was losing 2K for nothing.
Because I reserved my Cybertruck when FSD was 7k, I got to FSD for 7K! They honored that price!
Fantastic review. Nice to see an objective update.
I can think of a few changes that I'd like to see in the Cybertruck: The option for an insulated steel roof instead of glass (too hot in the summer for those in the south), redesign the side windows to be "framed" instead of "frameless" (on all Teslas), Put a rear view camera on the back of the roof so it doesn't get dirty and can be used when the tunneau is closed.
Lack of range is my biggest complaint, especially for camping/towing in the rural west where there are fewer charging stations.
Got my invitation to configure my $79.9k cybertruck but will wait until we get the tax credit approved.
They probably have it done just not showing it so they can keep steering people to foundation series 😂😂
Same here
I remember hearing they put the paper work in months ago. Tesla also reportedly listed the Cyberbeast in the paper too for the same price, $80K. Maybe Tesla is keeping their option open.
my understanding is it will be retro anyway.
Personally with kids, i am glad we did the gray interior vs the white paneling!
You forgot about accelerator gate. I wonder if mine will have a rivet in the pedal when I get it this month...
Not even a thought for me. I never had a problem and they added the rivet when I got the glass fixed. I think they all still come with a rivet.
It will, count on it.
Most critics and advocates of this company don't drive the vehicle. Good to hear an actual review. Politics ruin so much.
I don't like speculating on how much energy is being used for batt pre-heating. Would be nice to see the value somewhere in the car. Only then can be make an informed decision on if we feel it's worth the charging speed boost of a heated pack.
The quality is the best..... where is the bar. I guess you said other Teslas but hey. If you like it I love it
Recognized Ann Arbor in the video. New Tesla owner also in Michigan and planning trip to Florida.. haha. Great video
You can add a locking electric cover to any truck, I have put them on all my trucks. The down side is it does take up extra room in the bed.
Try "a better route planner" for road trips offers more control over how much you stop and how long.
Thanks Chris. I just want one. My only problem: I’m in Australia 🇦🇺 so have to wait till it comes downunder. (Hopefully that’s just a couple of years at most.)
I suspect if you keep it pushing and charge more than once the heating won't hurt so bad, but they're likely optimized for time over efficiency as you speculate there.
Your truck's efficiency is incredibly impressive! I'm running a small roof rack but my lifetime is closer to 500Wh/mi. City is closer to 450Wh/mi, and highway is 550-600Wh/mi depending on the day. 409 is impressive!
Yeah aero is definitely the biggest factor so a roof rack is gonna murder it. I'm pretty happy with it, but winter is gonna make efficiency worse. We'll see how much
Mine is at 404
I’m at 326 over 1400 miles. Just regular suburban driving. Minimal highways. That works out to nearly 390 miles on a full charge. Better than expected.
I received mine in June, I agree with Chris across the board. Its great
7:20 well, the Model Y is very light compared to the Cybertruck. Such a heavy vehicle tends to fishtail a lot more and if you're not used to that, you will loose control very quickly. So Tesla did the right thing there and put this behind an "offroad mode" button. :)
Yeah let me fishtail it!
@@DirtyTesla just hit that damn offroad button, if you want to ;)
In all seriousness: Fish tailing a heavy vehicle is no fun for most people, as they will instinctively overcompensate the steering input, leading to something which is called pilot induced oscillation in aviation.
So they will fishtail until they either spin out or crash.
I think it's good that Tesla tried to mitigate this. :)
I see you as well as many other people online have removed the rearview mirror. I’m surprised no aftermarket company has made a insert that pops in there to allow you to have a camera system for recording for your videos. Now that you have self driving it would be pretty neat to have a camera thereto see out the windshield as well as into the cab at the same time would be pretty cool if something like that could be set up
I must tell you i feel for your loss. According to your Wifey she does not give it back to you, now that FSD works.
You are now demoted to the Y. What a major loss for man-kind, how can i help you?
16:11 Yep, center console. Mine made a similar sound. They fixed it.
Thank you Chris for such an amazing Cybertruck review! I plan to buy a used Cybertruck in 10 years. I hope to drive it across the USA from coast to coast!
Max
even at 350Wh/mi that's like 218Wh/km which is about 60Wh/km more than my model 3. Over a say 250,000 km lifespan of the vehicle is 6.2MWh more energy used in the CT vs the M3.
Note that the battery is also larger (123KWh vs 75KWh or ~60KWh) so it should not affect lifetime.
wow smaller cars are more efficient???? Who would’ve guessed a mid-sized aerodynamic sedan uses less energy than a triangle shaped truck
@@RedvinezYGO The CT is very aerodynamic by the way. But it's mass is the culprit. Also, I believe it's more efficient than all other Pickups, maybe even the "étron".
@@maxpelletier2237 it’s not even the most aerodynamic electric truck, it’s aero is good considering its shape but otherwise any car company actually trying to make something aerodynamic clears it
For instance the etron is notoriously inefficient because it wasn’t trying to be
@@RedvinezYGO I never said it was the most aerodynamic, I implied it was good enough to be the most efficient.
You still have problem with the head lights in snow conditions?
We'll find out soon... If it snows. Barely got any last year.
Nice advertisement. Not a review. Doubt this is a real owner. Sorry, Musk - you know.
Ah I see we have an adult in the comment section. Greetings friend. I'm hope you and I can educate someone on how not to waste there fortune.
Excellent review.
Would you be willing to try 17 inch wheels(vs your 22's)to see if you how much your range improves?
I think I may have had a similar creaky seat in my model Y. It ended up fixing itself after I moved the seat forward and back a ton trying to find where it was coming from. You might give that a shot with the passenger seat
Thank you for the great video. Did you have the chance to drive a model X? I currently own a 2024 MX LR. Comfort, ride quality, and cabin noise are on top of my priority list as I do A LOT of driving. Between the CB and the MX, which would you say is the better ride? Thank you!
Yeah th-cam.com/video/2alKR-C5vFs/w-d-xo.html
I talk about our X service issues midway through the video. Cybertruck is better ride quality and more quiet than X, although X was also great.
@@DirtyTesla Thank you for the quick response. Now I don't feel bad placing my invitation order for the non-foundation. Already got a vin. Now waiting for the delivery date!
Send me an email or DM on x after you get it and lmk what you think!
I own a 22 raptor and have owned several super trucks and the cyberbeast is my favorite of them all.
😏
@ nice red truck 👍
Like Too $hort not to make your daily commute, a joy.
Have you heard anything about the possibility of an aftermarket 6 seat retrofit
Love the non foundation CT (especially with the eventual 7500 Point of Sale).
Really wish camp mode AC/heat could extend to the truck bed for more car camping versatility🙏🎉
Could you send the damaged steel panels to a machine shop for a tensile test?
I'm curious to see the full curve, not just strength but also elongation and toughness. Might be one of the toughest steel alloys ever made.
Thank's
like the ev foldable..... wonder about a wheel chair seat?
How about "Cross Traffic Alert? That is the missing feature on all Teslas!! It should be coupled with the rear camera, don't you think?
A great video. Thanks for your insights.
My 6door f350 is 24ft and i can park it just fine, so Cybertruck around 18ft is no biggie!
Didn't get the All Terrain tires with our Foundation series, which should be figured into the numbers. (But will have the Premium Connectivity for hopefully a decade or two, so that helps...)
I wonder if for the "heating" it is really just stopping the cooling loop from running in the battery, and letting internal heat just warm the pack. Any numbers on that, i.e. seeing discharge curve get steeper when preconditioning going on?
There are apps and dongles on the CAN-bus you can use on other Teslas and the batteries are definitely actively heated. You can see the inlet temperature on the cooling water going higher than the outlet temperature. I don't know if they have any apps like that working on the Cybertruck yet, since the computer network in the car is of a new type, too. If you watch Teslabjorn videos, he usually has some sort of device hooked up to get extra nerdy data.
There's definitely a huge increase in energy use as soon as preconditioning turns on
$3500 extra for off-road tyres, seriously! You can get good off road tyres for 150 each easily.
That's more like £6k, as you are swapping the existing tyres. Unless you get to keep the original tyres, which I doubt!
@walshysworld245 have you ever bought a tyre? It sure doesn't sound like it.
I just got my wheel covers installed. I did a service request asking for them, and they just happened to have them now.
1:21 You said a $5k premium, but it's actually only $3,095 (I paid $99,990 for my FS).
I'm interested to see what improvements they make over the coming years. The tonneau cover seems to break/come lose off-roading. That A-pillar cover has come loose for numerous owners. Every owner seems to agree that the rear-view mirror should be replaced by a screen/camera, especially one where you can switch between looking behind or looking at the cargo space. Many people also asking for a spare tire. Maybe they can make that work as an option instead of the under-bed storage. #1 thing would be having a 500mi range option for those who want to tow or go farther off the beaten track, power their cabin, that kind of thing. With some newer batteries claiming 500W/kg, that could potentially be done in the not-too-distant-future without adding any weight.
Do you think that not having a way to a/c the vault is a missed opportunity?
Why do you think the non foundation dual motor has 15 miles less range with the highway tires?
Commiserations on your purchase. Sorry for your loss 😢
The evaluations should be slotted into categories. Such as suitability for what you intended to use it for, the UI or user experience of driving it, the cosmetic issues, and the one that I would be most interested in. RELIABILITY, vehicles after all are TRANSPORTATION, was there ever an incident where you had to find alternate transportation when you were on the road? Did it always get you there and back with no hassles?
How big/wide of a tire/wheel package could you put on it? 22”, 24”? Performance summer tire?
Your higher average power consumption could perhaps coming from heating and other things while stationary?
Chris, I just got my non-Foundation invite, BUT I'm at about 402,000 (according to the tracker on Cybertruck Owners Forum). I did my pre-order 15 days after the Nov 2019 reveal. So why did I get one of the first non-Foundation invites? Could it be that there were that many cancellations?!!
I did want to quickly mention that for the standard range model 3 and standard range model Ys when they were a thing Tesla did and does place an artificial delay on the acceleration
So they also get a cheaper battery?
Which battery does it come with?
For now they all have the same 123kWh 4680 battery
I converted my day 1 reservation to an order right after I got the invite to the non-foundation series, thinking it qualified for the tax credit (because Tesla previously said it would likely qualify and it even showed up on the EPA site with the under $80,000 price). But then I found out it didn't and they wouldn't let me go back to my spot in the reservation line and I had to pay a $250 penalty to cancel on top of it all. So I got totally screwed over and Tesla just doesn't care. Brand loyalty seriously damaged with that move. :(
If you have A/Z plan, you can get a Lightning Flash for $51,725 plus tax after all the discounts vs $79.995 with Cybertruck, so that's where I'm looking at for now.
Just checked and I can only purchase the foundation series. Where do you get these prices?
10:05 the energy you waste in heat while charging fast should not affect the total capacity you reach, you're "just" gonna use more electricity, pay more, and reduce the expected lifespan of your battery a bit faster. Shouldn't affect autonomy I believe. (doesn't mean I like Tesla ;))
Yugo was mentioned!
Hey, we had a late 1000 vin and we had the same problem a lot earlier, it is the center console, as a temporary fix we also sprayed some foam filler spray or something like that I don’t know exactly,but I hope that helps you16:14
Ryan Shaw did his M3 performance review and he reports that his center console squeaks too.
My Model 3 Highland also lowers the power when I try to go full blast around a curve. It's soooo frustrating 😅 It's treating me like a child.
If you reserve early, do you get to buy the truck at ~$40,000? Once it is ready when they were still showing the $39,999 price?
I got an email in July that the wheel covers and light bar were going to be ready soon. I’m wondering if I should be contacting them to make sure they didn’t forget about me.
What's with the "304800um" that's a crazy unit
Is insurance an issue?
Good Review 🫡
Hi Chris, do you know when the range extender battery is going to be available? Would you buy it if you could?
Hilarious people still think that the Cybertruck is a meme car with no practical value. Hear weird stuff like that outside of Tesla channels a lot. People can't get past the exterior, and the fact that this is an EV.
It's a car for cult members. You are burning money to buy an inferior toy car all to play stock market games and suck up to a drug addict corrupt apartheid trust fund baby.
But you do you. It's your money and time to waste.
You live in such a warm climate, it’s sounds odd that you would need to warm the battery on every charge. And you get to drive reasonable speeds, so the energy usage should keep it warm.
I don't think he's got objective numbers for any energy use for warming the battery.
Lifetime connectivity has an asterisk to note that defines lifetime as 8 years. Ps my utility said would look at PowerShare as someone with generator. Need to make sure the cut off of feed line is working for safety of line people
My 2023 model x. I love. But I am considering getting Cybertruck and saying goodbye. Thoughts?