i decide for the sculpfun 22w, a 40w its too expensive but im trying to start a small business here so i got the max power and work surface i can afford. thanks for the video!
I am happy with my 20W S1. Not sure if you had different settings for the photo engrave but the white is really blown out. I do 3D engraves on cedar and walnut that come out really good. If you do more cutting than engraving then the 40W would make sense but it does not engrave as sharp as the 10 or 20W modules.
Thank you so much for this! I am new to the laser world, and trying to decide on which one I actually need. I was impressed by the 10W detailing and really didn't expect it to look so good. Since my main need at the moment is cutting 5mm EVA foam faster and more accurate than I can with my exacto, I am looking more at the 20W. I don't NEED the 40, but would love to eventually have a 20 and 10 for expanding my projects later down the road. Very helpful video and information, thanks so much!
I’ve not found a conclusive answer but the speculation is generally that if you run a 20w xtool at 50% it only uses the first 2 diodes, so the dot size is better, obviously it needs running slower but everything has a price. I have yet to test this on my 20w.
I bought the Atomstack 10watt 2 years ago and it's great but I recently bought the new Atomstack 70 watt for about the same price as the XTool 40 watt and it's a beast. X Tool is expensive.
Wow, I still need to view more videos before making my decision but this has helped a lot. I've been learning with a 10 watt for the past 9 Months but I need more power now that I'm comfortable and properly addicted to lazing! I was leaning more toward the 20 watt rather than the 30, It's a Sculpfun S30 Pro that's been heavily upgraded (I'm not considering pricing when upgrading). After seeing this I might just go with the 30 instead of the 20. I am really looking for more speed and it looks like 30 will blow them both out of the water by quite a bit- that 40 looks more than double the 20. Thank you for the comparison, I've still got to do more research but this has me leaning way more toward just going with maximum power. Take care! Lower power is definitely better for engraving, but I do about a 50/50 split so balance important to me- though I do lean a bit toward more toward cutting power than engraving (my engraves are all solid even engraves, not photos with a lot of variability). I think the higher power is probably the route I should go judging by this video alone. Still got to research and compare things but this has helped me quite a bit. Thank you for this great comparison vid :D
Is that really right that you are getting a full through cut at 70%/200mm on the 10 watt? I'm running a 5 watt atomstack and can barely cut through some 3mm "basswood" crap from amazon in 8 passes at 100%/5mm. Is there something wrong with my laser? I've bumbled into your channel and I'm impressed with with the quick and clean presentations and the level of information. My wife and I have a product (line) idea that will be proto-typed out and market tested with some laser wood cutting initially, eventually there could be other materials and goodies to engrave/cut. I've borrowed a friends atomstack and I am diving into every rabbit hole (lightburn, techniques, what more powerfull/capable laser to buy, etc.) about laser making. So this video was very relevant and informative. A similar video covering what the different types of lasers can do, and who they are good for would be a good future subject. Keep up the good work, I'm going to subscribe.
Yeah - I was surprised how well the 10W cut. I should mention though, that this type of thing has a lot of variables, so the specific piece of wood, temp in the room, etc. can make the cutting performance vary.
And good idea - I agree that a video comparing different types of lasers would be useful. I’ve only got diode lasers in my shop for now, but if I get others in the future, I’d love doing a comparison. Anyway, thanks for stopping by the channel!
I don’t have an xtools but I did just but an Ikier 24/48 watt switchable diode laser and it is awesome. However I do think there is merit in having a 10w for photos because of the smaller laser lens.
Thank you for taking the time to provide such detailed information! I am not happy with your results of the 20W laser, only because that's the one we currently have 😅. We're debating on whether to invest in the 40W head or hold off and get a CO2 in the spring, mostly for thicker materials and acrylic. Thanks again for everything!
Wow - thanks for the tip! And yep, that makes sense to me. If you end up getting a Co2, let me know how you like it. I haven't tried one yet, but may get to it in the future.
I'm really disappointed in my 20w upgrade, I have the original 5w, then a 10w and a then 20w and I'm one of those guys who washed their money on the IR 1064nm 2w laser. I think xtool really dropped the ball on its support. I've had it for over a year, and it's in one of my d1 pro units. However, with the lack of support from xtool, I haven't even plugged it into the wall. If anyone knows of a material library for lightburn for this laser, please let me know. As far as the tests you did on two of the heads that I own, I have not been able to get the same results as you. I keep my firmware up to date on my D1 for my 20w and clean my lens regularly, but I can't get the results you do. Any advice on anything else I should be cleaning or doing? I only use my laser for hobby projects as I am a service connected disable Marine Veteran and I'm in hope that I will one day be able to use this to combat my PTSD and it helps when my laser is performing OK. I'm no stranger on the forum, and I try to upload projects when I make something really cool. (Most of the time, you have to beg to get your points). My goal is to get enough points for the latest non diode unit. Any advice on getting the results you get on your 20w? Could you maybe make a video on the maintenance you do on your 20w? Your video was very informative, and I'm glad xtool is supporting you, I'm not in that group.
@@dog0311 - have you looked into tweaking your air assist or air flow (e.g. honeycomb) to improve results? It sounds like you’ve already played around with the Lightburn setup and If the software is not an issue, then it could be an air thing, especially if the issues you’re having are when you try to CUT material. I’m working on a video that goes deeper on this, but it may be a bit until it’s finished. I hope that helps!
Yes, I used air assist on the cut test. Specifically the Xtool branded air assist pump, so it's possible I could get different results with a different compressor.
Great question. You can upgrade a D1 to the 40W, it says so on the 40W upgrade kit FAQs. This does require you to change the wire and motherboard (which are both included in the upgrade kit), and once you switch, the old D1 module won’t work on the new motherboard. This is different from the D1 Pro, which is backwards compatible with the 10, and 20W modules after upgrading to the 40W kit.I’ve read that there is also a D1 specific 20W laser module kit, but I’m not sure if XTool still sells it. I hope this helps, if you decide to go for the 40W, you can get a discount by using the link in the video description. Cheers.
I've looked all over Xtool's website and I dont see a kit anywhere that includes a 10w & 40w head. the only one i see that has a 40w at all is the S1 model. do they have a 40w head for the D1 pro or just the S1?
Hey Chad - yeah, I just took a look and it looks like that bundle isn’t listed anymore for some reason. HOWEVER, it looks like you can still get it by just adding the 10W system and 40W upgrade kit to your cart separately, and it looks like the price also comes out the same. You can find these by going to the website and clicking Products. Then, the 10W system will be shown when “laser machines” is selected under Collection. And the 40W upgrade will be shown when the Accessories collection is selected. I hope that helps!
i decide for the sculpfun 22w, a 40w its too expensive but im trying to start a small business here so i got the max power and work surface i can afford. thanks for the video!
im getting the 40w wecreat, thanks for showing the differences between them.
I am happy with my 20W S1. Not sure if you had different settings for the photo engrave but the white is really blown out. I do 3D engraves on cedar and walnut that come out really good. If you do more cutting than engraving then the 40W would make sense but it does not engrave as sharp as the 10 or 20W modules.
Thank you so much for this! I am new to the laser world, and trying to decide on which one I actually need. I was impressed by the 10W detailing and really didn't expect it to look so good. Since my main need at the moment is cutting 5mm EVA foam faster and more accurate than I can with my exacto, I am looking more at the 20W. I don't NEED the 40, but would love to eventually have a 20 and 10 for expanding my projects later down the road. Very helpful video and information, thanks so much!
I’ve not found a conclusive answer but the speculation is generally that if you run a 20w xtool at 50% it only uses the first 2 diodes, so the dot size is better, obviously it needs running slower but everything has a price. I have yet to test this on my 20w.
I bought the Atomstack 10watt 2 years ago and it's great but I recently bought the new Atomstack 70 watt for about the same price as the XTool 40 watt and it's a beast. X Tool is expensive.
Wow, I still need to view more videos before making my decision but this has helped a lot. I've been learning with a 10 watt for the past 9 Months but I need more power now that I'm comfortable and properly addicted to lazing! I was leaning more toward the 20 watt rather than the 30, It's a Sculpfun S30 Pro that's been heavily upgraded (I'm not considering pricing when upgrading). After seeing this I might just go with the 30 instead of the 20. I am really looking for more speed and it looks like 30 will blow them both out of the water by quite a bit- that 40 looks more than double the 20. Thank you for the comparison, I've still got to do more research but this has me leaning way more toward just going with maximum power. Take care!
Lower power is definitely better for engraving, but I do about a 50/50 split so balance important to me- though I do lean a bit toward more toward cutting power than engraving (my engraves are all solid even engraves, not photos with a lot of variability). I think the higher power is probably the route I should go judging by this video alone. Still got to research and compare things but this has helped me quite a bit. Thank you for this great comparison vid :D
Awesome - so glad it helped you with the comparison process!
Thanks for this video; it's a huge help because now I know which module to go for, the 20W.
Thanks for doing this. What are the strange vertical lines toward the edges on the images? They get more pronounced as the wattage increases.
Is that really right that you are getting a full through cut at 70%/200mm on the 10 watt? I'm running a 5 watt atomstack and can barely cut through some 3mm "basswood" crap from amazon in 8 passes at 100%/5mm. Is there something wrong with my laser? I've bumbled into your channel and I'm impressed with with the quick and clean presentations and the level of information. My wife and I have a product (line) idea that will be proto-typed out and market tested with some laser wood cutting initially, eventually there could be other materials and goodies to engrave/cut. I've borrowed a friends atomstack and I am diving into every rabbit hole (lightburn, techniques, what more powerfull/capable laser to buy, etc.) about laser making. So this video was very relevant and informative. A similar video covering what the different types of lasers can do, and who they are good for would be a good future subject. Keep up the good work, I'm going to subscribe.
Yeah - I was surprised how well the 10W cut. I should mention though, that this type of thing has a lot of variables, so the specific piece of wood, temp in the room, etc. can make the cutting performance vary.
And good idea - I agree that a video comparing different types of lasers would be useful. I’ve only got diode lasers in my shop for now, but if I get others in the future, I’d love doing a comparison. Anyway, thanks for stopping by the channel!
This is a year old video... When I was looking at xtool s1 last night they now have one that comes with a 10w
I have a 10W but not an Xtool and hoping it does as well
I don’t have an xtools but I did just but an Ikier 24/48 watt switchable diode laser and it is awesome. However I do think there is merit in having a 10w for photos because of the smaller laser lens.
Thank you for taking the time to provide such detailed information! I am not happy with your results of the 20W laser, only because that's the one we currently have 😅. We're debating on whether to invest in the 40W head or hold off and get a CO2 in the spring, mostly for thicker materials and acrylic. Thanks again for everything!
Wow - thanks for the tip! And yep, that makes sense to me. If you end up getting a Co2, let me know how you like it. I haven't tried one yet, but may get to it in the future.
Can the 10w do materials like tumblers or zippo lighters?
I would like to know also plz
How thick of a material can a 10W laser cut through? My plan is to use the laser to create various router jigs.
How does the 1064nm stack up to theses 3 modules? Ive been looking for comparison video for that but havent found a comprehensive one.
Thanks!
Thanks for the tip, much appreciated.
I'm really disappointed in my 20w upgrade, I have the original 5w, then a 10w and a then 20w and I'm one of those guys who washed their money on the IR 1064nm 2w laser. I think xtool really dropped the ball on its support. I've had it for over a year, and it's in one of my d1 pro units. However, with the lack of support from xtool, I haven't even plugged it into the wall. If anyone knows of a material library for lightburn for this laser, please let me know. As far as the tests you did on two of the heads that I own, I have not been able to get the same results as you. I keep my firmware up to date on my D1 for my 20w and clean my lens regularly, but I can't get the results you do. Any advice on anything else I should be cleaning or doing? I only use my laser for hobby projects as I am a service connected disable Marine Veteran and I'm in hope that I will one day be able to use this to combat my PTSD and it helps when my laser is performing OK. I'm no stranger on the forum, and I try to upload projects when I make something really cool. (Most of the time, you have to beg to get your points). My goal is to get enough points for the latest non diode unit. Any advice on getting the results you get on your 20w? Could you maybe make a video on the maintenance you do on your 20w? Your video was very informative, and I'm glad xtool is supporting you, I'm not in that group.
@@dog0311 - have you looked into tweaking your air assist or air flow (e.g. honeycomb) to improve results? It sounds like you’ve already played around with the Lightburn setup and If the software is not an issue, then it could be an air thing, especially if the issues you’re having are when you try to CUT material. I’m working on a video that goes deeper on this, but it may be a bit until it’s finished. I hope that helps!
Hi. Did you have air-assist on the cut test?. I run a 30w diode and have very little burn when air-assist used.
Yes, I used air assist on the cut test. Specifically the Xtool branded air assist pump, so it's possible I could get different results with a different compressor.
Maybe. I haven't tried Xtool yet, mine being the Atomstack, which works great.@@asherdiy
I have the xTool D1 now with a 10w diode. Can I update to a 20w or 40w on the same frame and wiring?
Great question. You can upgrade a D1 to the 40W, it says so on the 40W upgrade kit FAQs. This does require you to change the wire and motherboard (which are both included in the upgrade kit), and once you switch, the old D1 module won’t work on the new motherboard. This is different from the D1 Pro, which is backwards compatible with the 10, and 20W modules after upgrading to the 40W kit.I’ve read that there is also a D1 specific 20W laser module kit, but I’m not sure if XTool still sells it.
I hope this helps, if you decide to go for the 40W, you can get a discount by using the link in the video description. Cheers.
I've looked all over Xtool's website and I dont see a kit anywhere that includes a 10w & 40w head. the only one i see that has a 40w at all is the S1 model. do they have a 40w head for the D1 pro or just the S1?
Hey Chad - yeah, I just took a look and it looks like that bundle isn’t listed anymore for some reason. HOWEVER, it looks like you can still get it by just adding the 10W system and 40W upgrade kit to your cart separately, and it looks like the price also comes out the same. You can find these by going to the website and clicking Products. Then, the 10W system will be shown when “laser machines” is selected under Collection. And the 40W upgrade will be shown when the Accessories collection is selected. I hope that helps!
And this is for the D1 Pro, so yes, it is available for the D1 Pro.
Awesome! Thanks for checking on that. I'm pretty new to this laser stuff, only have a 5.5w, but I'm pretty hooked and already looking to upgrade lol.
No problem!
My 24 watt was like $1099 I think