Moyes being handed a massively long contract by the club while being Ferguson's hand-picked successor, only to find out he'd been sacked by the media (rather than being told by the club directly) sums everything wrong with Manchester United in the last decade. No class, no plan, no clue
Moyes would have great in charge. He looks over the whole club. Obviously Fergie saw more than what others did. Nobody is perfect. But he is one of the best managers of all time. So youd think hed be worth listening too. Lowsy owners and upper management. Along with snowflake footballers. Just ruined the game in general
@@oneworldchua5293And he had a small club mentality. Can you imagine SAF being okay with a draw away against some mid-table club? Moyes was. Maybe Everton could accept that result, but that should be below United’s expectations.
Imo Cavani doesn't get enough respect. Watching him consistently run from attack to defense back to attack made Man U a better team. It's no wonder they came 2nd the year he was their striker.
Cavani played for the shirt. He was obviously past his best, but the guy put in a shift every single game he was in. He was the striker United should've signed when Moyes/LVG were in charge. Typical United fashion, we waited too long and got him past his best. Same with Casemiro, Varane and Ronaldo in recent years. Refuse to spend the money, wait until they're past it, sign them, then fans get all upset because these guys aren't what they used to be. I do really hope the structure at the club has changed now, no more signing players 30+ years old who were once world class. Need to be signing CURRENT world class players.
I disagree. Neymar cost 220 million not even Madrid could afford him. Man United use to break transfer records under Sir Alex but state run football has ruined everything. Madrid are buying 18 years instead of current world class players eg Vinicius and Endrick. Look at Savinho, if Man United tried to buy him, he might have cost 100 million but Man City bought him from their own sister club for less than half
@@stonkytong Hindsight? That didn't do Spurs any good 😂 I get it, Mou does run his course at clubs (I'm a Chelsea fan, I get it) but standing by Pogba in that scenario was lacking any insight
What do Manchester utd expect ? Do they expect to win trophies every single season win every match score every match? other clubs keep managers for 10 years at least, Glaziers and Ineos is a joke
@TheLetterK81 I saw a Man United fan celebrating Sporting thrashing Man City. A great reply to the video in the comment section pointed out that Ten Hag thrashed others including Real Madrid as Ajax manager. Sporting have Champions mentality as recent unlike our current team. Entitled fans like him will also want Amorim gone in a year or two
This. The video misses out on the most key things. The debt we got saddled with stopped us being able to invest in new players between 2008 and 2014. Add to that the Glazers culture of greed infected the staff and players. Instead of people wanting to go Man Utd to win things, everyone sees it as a pay cheque.
@@seb1554real but there are still players that go to Utd because of their history but if they don’t get a big paycheque then goodbye Zirkzee already regrets signing for Utd bro we are so cooked if the glazers don’t leave and we don’t get rid of this debt
@@seb1554 yet these so called "fans" continue feeding them out of habit and supposed "love for the club" what Roy Keane said about the home "fans" was spot on all them years ago...very few seem to understand that the body will never recover so long as the virus is still active!
@@aurynwestwield1682 I agree with you. Through their disrespect of the club and its supporters, the Glazers terminally infected Man United - an infection from which, I fear, it will never recover.
@@ryleighloughty3307 Nothing lasts forever. Not even Manchester United's position as Englands undisputed football giant, just look at Liverpool post -90. Will they still be up there with the rest of the big teams? Yes. Will they go back to winning the PL title at a rate of 65% of the time over 2 decades? No chance.
Pogba's greatest football success is celebrating - actually celebrating - getting his drug ban halved and being kicked off his team. A real champion there.
22 multi millionaires running round a pitch who dont give a fuck about any of you. As long as you keep pouring your hard earned cash into their pockets thats all that matters.
I lived 40 mins walk from OT but stopped going in 2010 cos I learned how Glazers acquired the club and will never give them a single penny so long as they're there leeching! if only the home "fan"base would follow suit...but it's true what Roy Keane said bowt those home "fans" all them years ago.
@sportinguista09 They don't give a shit if they play rubbish. There are too many egos in the game now. It's not a working mans sport anymore. Nearly 100 quid for a cheap and nasty football shirt!
@@Frenic1 for sure I agree but every clubs jerseys are that price it’s not the glazers and as I said if I’m not mistaken they have spent the most money in the last 10 years in transfers. At the very least top 3 in transfer spending ? The signings are just utter dog 💩
People are looking at where it went wrong. Blaming managers, players, glazers, media, fans. Imo, it looks like a lot of mix between everything. Mostly I feel United are focused on everything in the past. Everytime they do anything they get judged by what anyone did before them and not in a good way. They are the most media attention seeking club in the world. They don't control the narrative at all. So once they are off losing/drawing games, everyone goes wild. Rivals enjoys in unison, fans points fingers and no one takes the responsibility to do anything about it. Positivity, renewal of fundamental structures and consistency are so rare to see these days. Liverpool supporter.
The media is hungry to jump on United for any reason, its just a bonus that they give plenty reasons to do so. You are a perfect example of that, literally rival fans are craving for news damning United. Bad media strategy is really just the tip of the iceberg.
Liverpool was in that same spot (if not worse, save for 04 CL) for almost 3 decades. You are right, and looking at what LFC did with Klopp, it is kinda what MU have to do now, rebuild player structures from the bottom, get a manager that doesn't spend to win while also stands strong against the critics (like SAF used to be), cut waste and manage spending - and even if/when expenses are big, do them properly, without experiments like Ten Hag nor overblown like Antonio.
@@carlosnn8150 Liverpool fans didnt call for Klopp to be sacked when they didnt make top 4. They arent still living in the 70's & 80's. Uniteds golden era is still to close for people to let it go
@sticktothefacts8905 thats also true, Liverpool had such a long drought that people learned to be patient. And even then, only to some degree, I still remember some anger and desperation in LFC fans, specially post 04 CL but before Klopp: for example, when they bottled that season with Suarez scoring so much. ManUtd's drought is more recent, and their golden period was way more noticeable in the age of the PL, Sky, glory hunting fans that didn't just root for their hometown/neighborhood team, worldwide fandom, tourists and high priced tickets, and internet bantz. And that MU dominion was even more pronounced on the local league than in international cups, with an everlasting Ferguson that no matter what the other teams did always came out on top, with a club that was the first to sell shares and get a big allseater stadium and therefore increasing financially above the rest, leading to way more "eternal giant" complex on the part of the MU fans (and "eternally hated" among the rest, which created a vicious loop, that made MU fans literally expecting Real Madrid style hirings every window so they could rub it on rivals' faces). Back in the 70s and 80s Liverpool dominated but did somewhat more sparsely, as the Football League was more even (Villa and Forest won CLs, Everton won a CWC, doubles were rarer); there wasn't nearly as much media buzz about football (specially during hooligan/terrace times, when such press was negative), the players weren't as celebrities, pre-Bosman ruling meant transfer windows weren't as dramatic, the bantz existed more on the terraces than on the pubs, which again were more for locals than for tourists, "big teams" could get relegated, fanbases stayed local no matter what, and so on. And then add a long local drought that hurt LFC fans a lot but eventually set expectations low, and you can see why they gave Klopp a bit more chance. Granted, Klopp never made them be 14th or even 10th place, maybe 7th at worst iirc? Thus why I see some commenters now saying Mourinho or even Van Gaal might as well have stayed in MU, they weren't thaaat bad (specially Mourinho). Problem is, Ferguson era was so much better, not just on the pitch but off, and that perhaps is what bothers MU fans the most: that with way less money Ferguson did wonders, but now all the cash splashing gets is a bunch of conceited players and haphazard managing stabs in the dark.
They are realising it now with ten hag being sacked, imo if ole got more time and more backing in 20/21 season he’d have his job right now and United would be competing for the title.
I think you guys are on the right track but being on United news? Ineos came in last season so finally after all this time the main problems ARE being addressed.
@@chikku807well not really the players still need to be held accountable whether they came in last season or two seasons ago or even 6 they all need to be looked at if we’re gonna address the problems at this club because the mentality is on the floor and it’s a combination of Mismanagement by the top execs and the players getting away with murder
@@lm8276 and that is my point lol. You mentioned mismanagement by top execs and imo that has always been the main problem. And you mention the players but that's not a 'problem' in this context but rather a consequencem or effect of the Glazers and Woodward's time in charge which again is now changing under INEOS. That's what I meant that with INEOS the whole structure is finally changing and like you said the players were a big problem but that had to do with Woodward overpaying the fees for them and overpaying their wages and making it a players-run club, but all that should be changing under INEOS. It's not just that they sacked ETH, or that they're getting Amorim. Imo appointing ETH was actually a very good decision but Glazers, but again they fell short to back him because they still held the rotten culture at United. But with Amorim one of the biggest test for INEOS is not just appointing him but slowly changing the structure and support the manager best as they can
Thank you, first person I've seen saying this. People always default to saying he was in over his head but one season simply isn't enough time to judge, especially with the only signing being Fellaini.
At this point, I think the executives of Man United men team intentionally shoot themselves on the foot. Just look at the players who left the club. The ones who were considered “not good enough” or “injury prone” are performing like crazy. McTominay is so loved by Conte. Van de Beek is fit like a horse in Girona. Fred and Amrabat are used properly by Mourinho. Angel Gomes keeps getting better. Ronaldo, Sancho, De Gea. You get the idea. So I think that the ones playing for United right now all still have the untapped potential to be good (and yes, I also include Rashford and Antony). Ten Hag, Glazers and Ratcliffe are just too incompetent to bring their potential to the fullest. Also, this club seems like a nightmare for normal workers. They lay off and cut cost from the workers 24/7 but somehow still overpaying the players who aren’t even committed to the badge.
You forgot the worst decision United made and that was letting go of Herrera. He was our best midfielder for the previous 3 years, put his heart and soul into every game and we discarded him when we needed him most. No one has replaced his influence in the middle there. We kept Mata instead who just bench warmed. I honestly can't believe we let Herrera go, his passion was unmatched, consistent, hard-working and technical. He even cried on the tele years after reminiscing about the decision, and that was even after he went to a better club in PSG. I was heartbroken to see him go.
Can't mention Ten Hag if you actually believe this. He's not a fool. He sacrificed his reputation like every other manager. He will get a big job after this no doubt.
Imagine being Moyes and promised all of these signings when he took over to then only get 1 signing and that signing being 6th or 7th choice. It's crazy for how long everything was blamed on the managers yet here we are 10 years later and several managers later and they are still having the same issues on and off the field.
i love how it’s the same story with every manager. so-and-so is going to magically bring them back to glory solely because it’s manchester united and they deserve to be there. what united needs imo is a humble rebuild. it’s clear that chasing big names doesnt work anymore as is evident by their trajectory since 2013
UTD Managers in short: -David Moyes deserved more time and money -Luis Van Gaal deserved more time and money as well -Mourinho deserved more time and money as well -Solskjaer deserved more time and money -Eric Ten Hag got both time and money yet failed -Van Nilsteroy i guess it will be the same as the previous ones
@@noname12300able pep would never go to man u he doesnt have the balls to and hansi flick would prob never go either both mourinho and van gaal are also very charismatic and more proven managers than both having insane achievements with small teams and not football giants or simply the richest club in the planet
Moyes: should never been hired. Mou: bad upper management, players turned against him. Van Gall: got sacked cause boring football and players didn`t like his management. Solkjaer: all vibes/counteratacks during covid with no pressure of away fans, no tactics, soon he introduced his tactics he got sacked. ETH: spend 300+ on wrong players, media and players used him as a scapegoat, his man management is bad. Meanwhile United spent over a billion on recruitment and other than Bruno none of this players could play regular football in another TOP club, meanwhile whoever Ragnick advised the club to buy turned out to be top talent and sold for 60-80mill. A random dude playing football manager could make better decisions that these idiots.
What baffles me is that they signed him with the intention of him being some kind of transfer guru for the future. Ended up dropping him in the deep end, everybody laughed at him and he left when ETH came in. Massive blunder. I think he would've been perfect in the current structure.
@ yeah Ralf has been given a bad rep undeservedly. Plenty of pundits are happy to say Ralf had a terrible spell yet every time anyone mentions Moyes it’s immediately followed by “he didn’t have very long tho”
I’d argue that across the history of Newton Heath/Man Utd, the Ferguson era was the outlier, not the standard. For the vast majority of 120 years, Utd were a strong cup team and that was it. They had a brief stint of success under Sir Matt Busby then returned to obscurity until SAF. I would instead argue, that Ferguson era aside, there was very little difference between Man Utd and other decent sides like Everton, Villa, Spurs, hell even Leeds Utd. This is what Man Utd really are. The greatest manager in history gave them a 30 year dream and they have been awake ever since. *edit* LMAO, this had exactly the effect I’d hoped. 🎣
20 premier League titles, 13 FA cups, 6 league cups, 12 FA community shields, 3 champions leagues, 1 Europa League, 1 cup winners cup, uefa super cup, intercontinental cup and the FIFA club world cup. Players like George Best, Duncan Edwards, Bobby Charlton, Dennis Law, Dennis Violet, the busby babes, Cantona, Beckham, Giggs, Scholes, Ronaldo, Ferdinand, Vidic, Roy Keane, Lee Sharp, Mark Hughes, Ruud, and that's not even mentioning half of them. They have one of, if not the largest fan base of any sporting club or franchise in history, the greatest and most successful team in British history, known by everyone worldwide. They have the most iconic stadium in the world and have had some of the greatest players of all time. What's wrong with having only a few managers who are legends? Loads of teams have them. All that means is they never had to sack them. Never mention those clubs in the same sentence when talking about history and greatness. The recency bias is insane
as the guy below said it best. RECENCY BIAS. what utter nonsense, this is such a badly hilarious take that i cant even be bothered to decipher it. but one thing i will say, the reason why you look at only 2 managers and say that this was just brief blip in history is because unlike lfc for example we kept our manager for a long time a combine 52 years between busby and ferguson alone while lfc keep changing managers during their only 2 successful period, we would also be more successful if not for the munich disaster, i could say so much more but cant be bothered with a take this badly absurd and i already said more than intended so apologies
You could make that point about many teams. Liverpool were not a good team until the 70s and 80s. Then they fell off and didn't win the league for 30 years. But then they had a great spell under Klopp with 3 UCL finals etc. United were the biggest English team in Europe in the 50s and 60s.
Let's not get carried away.The narration is actually alright, but there are countless spelling mistakes and grammatical errors (1:54 'Chelsea City', 20:49 'Firmino Salah Shaqiri' apparently being one person) in the hardcoded subtitles and pretty much all graphics are incorrectly displaying the home and away teams. 'You are nothing you out a fool' at 5:06 is just bizarre. Calling them 'mention United' at 5:45 kind of sums it all up. Including the 'fraud watch' bellend that earns a living from sitting in his wanking pit complaining and never going to any games is also a criminal act. I get that it's free but clearly attention to detail isn't the strongest suit on display here.
@@PEPSIMaxMusic Yes, I get that, but that's my point. AI is fine as a tool to help you if you need it. To read that this is 'really well put together' when it's just lowest common denominator, computer-generated garbage with zero attention to detail is deeply, deeply annoying.
Only 3 managers have ever won the league with United. Ever. In history. Only 3 have ever won a European trophy. There's a good argument to be made that all they've done, post-Fergie, is return to their baseline level.
I’ve been saying this for a while. They are not a club of sustained success regardless. They’ve basically had two great periods under two all dominating managers. The other times is barren desert and mediocrity. Well said.
@@effkay3691 they won trophies at different periods, they weren’t just this dominate force like Real Madrid is. Just because man united hasn’t won titles with 10different coaches is a very lazy opinion. Eventually they are the most successful club next to Liverpool in England.
well apparently Amorim. at first i thought 'no, he's a smart, young, up and coming high-potential manager, why would he go to Manchester??' but then the realisation hit 'it happened before to people much smarter, and maybe he's not that smart after all'. Not even a united fan, but it's disgraceful to watch.
Who wouldn`t want to be the first manager to bring success back to United after SAF? Literally anyone with ambition and cofidence which they slowly start losing once they get the job.
@@mandemwallahi Truly blows my mind why any player or managers would ever want to go to Man United nowadays. I feel like it has to be their mindset that they can be the hero and fix them but it never works out that way. It’s truly a shame because we all know how this is going to turn out.
It's not so much that. It's more like ego. They all see United, once the biggest team in the world, now in 13th place. Any manager will think they can come in and turn it around. Why wouldn't you want the job? Think about it, YOU could be the one who turns United into a dominant force again. It's all ego. I really do hope that Amorim has what it takes, despite what people are saying about him doing great at Sporting Lisbon, Manchester United is a completely different ball game.
Amazing work. The only thing I dind't agree with, was mentioning that the team was relying on a 33 yo Cavani. He was never the problem, the problem was how much and how well was Cavani fed with passes. Can't blame singular players for the entire team not functioning.
Moyes: Should have never been hired. The job was too big for him. LVG: The only manager to have a system but he was boring and his football philosophy was obsolete. Mourinho: Hired 3 years too late and the best manager we had post Ferguson but it was a toxic end for him. Ole: Should have remained interim till the end of that season but he did had moments. Not good enough to manage Manchester United in the end. Ten Hag: The worst manager we have and it's not even close. As bad Moyes, LVG, Mourinho and Ole was. They never left the club in a relegation fight and this Eggman Pagan has done it. The ultimate blame for the Manchester United's demise is on the Glazers and Ed Woodward. Bankers and business men who knows nothing about running a massive sporting institution and Jim 🐀 and Ineos are busy twiddling their thumbs instead of being ruthless and sack Dr Robotnik when they should have sacked him after the FA Cup win. Sheikh Jassim was available and willing to clear the debt but the Glazers chose Jim 🐀 and Ineos to keep the status quo. Until another Sheikh buys Manchester United, we're not doing anything for the next decade. We're screwed.
I think fans and pundit are also deserved to be held accountable, for putting too much pressure on United. So United never have chance to get proper rebuild. If you don't believe me, when the last 13 years United have proper rebuild of young core?
What you have to remember is, this kind of stuff is inevitable for football clubs. The best example is Liverpool. They were THE TEAM back in the day, won it all, had world class players, then they dropped off massively until Klopp came in and sorted them out. That was like, what, 20~ years of misery. We will come back, god knows when though. Wouldn't hold my breath thinking we're going to make this epic comeback any time soon.
Clowns like Woodward sabotaged Jose. Simple as that. They thought Pogba & Lukaku would be enough, when in reality that is the absolute first stage of making a successful team. You don't just sign players like that and then restrict future transfers.
Fanbase backing Hag is the most stupidest fanbase I have ever seen. 7-0 Liverpool and someone still backing him for the 2 Mickey Mouse cups he won by accident.
"you are nothing, you are a fool, and you are a waste of time. Goodnight". All this over 11 men kicking a ball around a field? Who is really the fool here
When your new owner bought you with a high interest loan and then let you to pay the loan. You should know you have a big problem. 😂😂😂 Glazers was the real clown who put man utd to misery.
I honestly wonder how long it will take you at Untied until you understand that it's not the manager's fault. At the moment you are no more than an average club in England and not even that in Europe. The name Manchester United is all you have left. You have a stadium that is falling apart. A team that hasn't achieved anything for years. Don't you have a youth academy? Get hungry players, buy young, cheap players who won't be immediately overwhelmed by the transfer fee and rebuild a team from the ground up. You don't need star players at the moment, you need a team in which new stars can develop. How many more years do you want to take to learn this?
What other managers never had was time, Fergie built his team patiently with management's support. Stop listening to those yapping fans who want instant result, focus building team with cunning transfer policy, trust your coach and give him authority in changing room.
I have been a manutd supporter since the 86-87 season. And i have never felt so badly and hurt as i do now, seeing my great club just flonderijg around like a headless fish out of water, really hurtd me deeply. But!.....such is life. At some point we as a footballing giant, will bounce back.
The main issue remains for over a decade - detecting problems within the squad and finding their identity. They need to clean the house properly and that means having the balls to sell some players short and buy new players high. You can't build a house on bad foundation.
We are not run like a modern club. We do not have a system, we do not have an identity. The Glazer's left us to stagnate and we are worse off as a sporting association than we were in 2003.
You cant mismanage a club for ten years and not expect a fall. No owner investment leads to what Utd are today. A shell of their former selves just so the American owners can line their pockets. How much greed does it take?
Man Utd cycle Manager gets sacked -> Team starts to play better -> Shows signs of progress under new manager -> Goes on to spend more money than GDP of some countries -> Plays unconvincing football -> problem between manager and players -> Manager gets sacked
Ferguson announcing his retirement and the new manager without giving the fans a time to mourn and time to accept change started the downfall. Klopp announced it before a league cup match giving the owners time to find a replacement and the players and fans time to adjust to a new manager.
Rightly or wrongly, I have always believed out problems started when Fergie left and David Moyes was appointed as manager. I think the biggest issue was the fact that the entire backroom team was replaced, ok it may not have made much of a difference but I just feel like they would have had the experience to help DM so while he may not have succeeded where SAF left off he would (you'd think) have the staff behind him that would point him in the right direction.
😂 "he ripped the heart out of it he ripped the soul out of it, and he ripped the passion of the team out of it." Somebody is tell me is that old man alive?
By definition, Manchester United have never had a dynasty. They had one manager who was successful for a very long time. Lettle success before him, little success after him. A dynasty is when success is passed from one ruler/manager to the next.
Little success before him? Ever heard of the Busby Babes and the team of Best, Law and Charlton which became the first English club to win the European Cup?
United will never be fixed, It needs massive work. Work I don't think the fans would be happy to sit through. How much money has been invested in that club for number of years. How many times a manager has been scrapped, only to work with possibly players they didn't want. Now a new manager will have to do the same with Ten Hag's signings. Not to mention, how many players there, have constantly let the team down, over and over again, that are STILL there. While the manager gets kicked off. Owners are a big blame yes, but those players need a serious look at themselves.
Until the board makes it clear to players that no one is bigger than the club, the players will continue to undermine coaches. Players at United are having too much power. No wonder they are misbehaving. Throwing good coaches under the bus due to unprofessional, mediocre and average players' attitude. The club should review performance renumeration for every player.
Amazing vid man good job, love the bit of Irish tv commentary from Didi in there as well. Just a note, the scores are sometimes a bit misleading when you show them on screen, just always put home team first on scoreboard if you're showing them on top of the broadcast scoreboards
Great video. Only thing I would say is that when you display a score eg United 0-4 Everton you must have the home team's score first and the away teams score second. When you mentioned the Everton result it seemed like you were saying Everton had won 0-4 at Old Trafford which isnt the case. Also, making no mention of Ole's Europa League run to the final is odd considering losnig that match was pivotal in changing the trajectory of his tenure as manager.
The problem with man utd is that they don't want to take things slowly that was the problem with barcelona for years but trusting in young players and being patient with the right project can be game changing
Blaming mourinho then ronaldo for the team's results was the biggest forms of delulu i've seen from that team, hopefully it'll be back on track one day
As a Mancunian City fan, who was at school during the 90s getting the piss ripped out of me and dealing with the levels of obnoxiousness that seeped out of their fanbase. This is karma.
@@reecenicholls7963 Clinging to the trumped up charges like a crutch I see. I’ll be back in January when it’s announced City have won yet another case.
As a Liverpool fan I love United's downfall! lol That said, it is obvious that the ownership / management have lacked long-term strategy and commitment to one vision, which they had under SAF. They really should have given someone like Jose 5-10 years to put things right!
They have had two god-like managers - Busby and Ferguson - very hard acts to follow - so perhaps expectations are too high and they are an ordinary club after all
Thank you so much for this recap. As a city fan, our lacklustre start to the season (by city's standards) left me needing a little pick me up. This was the perfect tonic.
Negative media, players, management, club culture, supporters and class of 92 is the main critics. Zlatan Ibrahimovic is right, "Listen, it is what it is". So deep.
What to learn from this is don’t manage Man United because if you don’t succeed right away you’ll get sacked, Man United will never go back to the clubs prime because the mentality nowadays is “succeed undefeated or get sacked”
To be fair, all these problems only happen with the senior men team. The youth teams and women team are still performing good as usual. The one problem that actually affects everyone is bad stadium.
It was not only Managers that were wrong. The management was trash. The players were egoistic. No passion. Rashford was shitttt. Bruno is egoistic man. Money and fame took over Pogba. And making players who were really trying to improve or help the team were benched or sacked. As a ManU fan, it’s heart breaking to support this team and then they play without passion. Ronaldo or David were never the problems, it was the mentality that was the problem.
Then they allowed Ten hag to spend all that money to bring in his players only to sack him anyways. The new manager was handicapped before he even joined because those players are going to be nearly impossible to offload if they don’t come good.
The fantastic thing about this video is that Ten Hag actually got sacked whilst I was watching it. LMFAO.
Ah, so it's your fault. I knew it!
exactly
@@johnaarsonwe’re all sad he’s leaving… truly one of the managers of all time
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hahahah I love that this comment is how I found out 😂
Moyes being handed a massively long contract by the club while being Ferguson's hand-picked successor, only to find out he'd been sacked by the media (rather than being told by the club directly) sums everything wrong with Manchester United in the last decade. No class, no plan, no clue
Moyes's game is so predictable
True, they should have given him an experienced assistant.
Moyes would have great in charge. He looks over the whole club. Obviously Fergie saw more than what others did. Nobody is perfect. But he is one of the best managers of all time. So youd think hed be worth listening too. Lowsy owners and upper management. Along with snowflake footballers. Just ruined the game in general
@@oneworldchua5293And he had a small club mentality. Can you imagine SAF being okay with a draw away against some mid-table club? Moyes was. Maybe Everton could accept that result, but that should be below United’s expectations.
moyes < players back at the time
it happened again when jose < pogba
Imo Cavani doesn't get enough respect. Watching him consistently run from attack to defense back to attack made Man U a better team. It's no wonder they came 2nd the year he was their striker.
Cavani played for the shirt. He was obviously past his best, but the guy put in a shift every single game he was in. He was the striker United should've signed when Moyes/LVG were in charge. Typical United fashion, we waited too long and got him past his best. Same with Casemiro, Varane and Ronaldo in recent years. Refuse to spend the money, wait until they're past it, sign them, then fans get all upset because these guys aren't what they used to be. I do really hope the structure at the club has changed now, no more signing players 30+ years old who were once world class. Need to be signing CURRENT world class players.
I disagree.
Neymar cost 220 million not even Madrid could afford him.
Man United use to break transfer records under Sir Alex but state run football has ruined everything.
Madrid are buying 18 years instead of current world class players eg Vinicius and Endrick.
Look at Savinho, if Man United tried to buy him, he might have cost 100 million but Man City bought him from their own sister club for less than half
to choose Pogba over Mourinho was the biggest mistake Utd board made post Fergie era!
hindsight is always easy. back then almost everyone chose pogbark
@@stonkytong Hindsight? That didn't do Spurs any good 😂 I get it, Mou does run his course at clubs (I'm a Chelsea fan, I get it) but standing by Pogba in that scenario was lacking any insight
@ yeah hindsight.
Then POGBA sells more products than Maurinho.
Actually firing LVG and hiring Jose was the worse decision cause Jose screwed of the development of martial and Rashford
"Ole's at the wheel..."
So iconic
Rio is a club legend but, good God, as a pundit and giving opinion he's one of the worst. A massive jinx.
@@ymca4547
Agreed! He chats utter nonsense half the time, then states the obvious the other half.
He's very hard to listen to. So I don't.
@@ymca4547 Footballers arent hired for their intellect. Unfortunately Ex footballers are hired by SKY as pundits.
@@johan8969well in Spain they hire based on intellect
Heading for the iceberg covered in TNT and smallpox 😂
Impeccable timing
It's cos it's AI generated
@@Cal97g Youre AI generated
@@Jamesohio-uk8ju bruh the voiceover is ai, the script is ai, it's bottom of the barrel content, the fact you can't tell that is telling.
@@Cal97g Since when could I not tell, all I said was youre AI🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@Jamesohio-uk8ju 🐀🐀🐀🐀
You missed the point where Manchester United spent over a billion pounds to prove Mourinho wrong. 😂
Haha nice one
They want to prove to him that he is not the special One.😂
Oh he is a special one, but not in a positive way😂@@whyalwaysme2522
What do Manchester utd expect ? Do they expect to win trophies every single season win every match score every match? other clubs keep managers for 10 years at least, Glaziers and Ineos is a joke
@TheLetterK81 I saw a Man United fan celebrating Sporting thrashing Man City.
A great reply to the video in the comment section pointed out that Ten Hag thrashed others including Real Madrid as Ajax manager.
Sporting have Champions mentality as recent unlike our current team.
Entitled fans like him will also want Amorim gone in a year or two
Man United's fall began on Tuesday, May 26, 2009 .... over 15 years ago.
Its futility will continue as long as the Glazers own the club.
This. The video misses out on the most key things. The debt we got saddled with stopped us being able to invest in new players between 2008 and 2014. Add to that the Glazers culture of greed infected the staff and players. Instead of people wanting to go Man Utd to win things, everyone sees it as a pay cheque.
@@seb1554real but there are still players that go to Utd because of their history but if they don’t get a big paycheque then goodbye
Zirkzee already regrets signing for Utd bro we are so cooked if the glazers don’t leave and we don’t get rid of this debt
@@seb1554 yet these so called "fans" continue feeding them out of habit and supposed "love for the club" what Roy Keane said about the home "fans" was spot on all them years ago...very few seem to understand that the body will never recover so long as the virus is still active!
@@aurynwestwield1682
I agree with you.
Through their disrespect of the club and its supporters, the Glazers terminally infected Man United - an infection from which, I fear, it will never recover.
@@ryleighloughty3307 Nothing lasts forever. Not even Manchester United's position as Englands undisputed football giant, just look at Liverpool post -90. Will they still be up there with the rest of the big teams? Yes. Will they go back to winning the PL title at a rate of 65% of the time over 2 decades? No chance.
Pogba was a virus and he infected a bunch of young players with his attitude. Mourhino was spot on about him.
Bro did witchcraft and wierd things didn't he bury a hyena under Old trafford
@@MK12275yea he did some weird muzzie shit like burying chicken and goat heads under the training grounds.
Wth???@@MK12275
Pogba's greatest football success is celebrating - actually celebrating - getting his drug ban halved and being kicked off his team. A real champion there.
Honestly I would stick with Mourinho but oh well
And now even Ten Hag was sacked
22 multi millionaires running round a pitch who dont give a fuck about any of you. As long as you keep pouring your hard earned cash into their pockets thats all that matters.
I lived 40 mins walk from OT but stopped going in 2010 cos I learned how Glazers acquired the club and will never give them a single penny so long as they're there leeching! if only the home "fan"base would follow suit...but it's true what Roy Keane said bowt those home "fans" all them years ago.
Most top football clubs players are multi-millionaires nowadays, so it's not an excuse.
@@aurynwestwield1682why does everyone blame them as if they haven’t spent over billion $ on trash signings ?????
@sportinguista09 They don't give a shit if they play rubbish. There are too many egos in the game now. It's not a working mans sport anymore. Nearly 100 quid for a cheap and nasty football shirt!
@@Frenic1 for sure I agree but every clubs jerseys are that price it’s not the glazers and as I said if I’m not mistaken they have spent the most money in the last 10 years in transfers. At the very least top 3 in transfer spending ? The signings are just utter dog 💩
People are looking at where it went wrong. Blaming managers, players, glazers, media, fans. Imo, it looks like a lot of mix between everything. Mostly I feel United are focused on everything in the past. Everytime they do anything they get judged by what anyone did before them and not in a good way. They are the most media attention seeking club in the world. They don't control the narrative at all. So once they are off losing/drawing games, everyone goes wild. Rivals enjoys in unison, fans points fingers and no one takes the responsibility to do anything about it. Positivity, renewal of fundamental structures and consistency are so rare to see these days.
Liverpool supporter.
The media is hungry to jump on United for any reason, its just a bonus that they give plenty reasons to do so. You are a perfect example of that, literally rival fans are craving for news damning United. Bad media strategy is really just the tip of the iceberg.
Liverpool was in that same spot (if not worse, save for 04 CL) for almost 3 decades.
You are right, and looking at what LFC did with Klopp, it is kinda what MU have to do now, rebuild player structures from the bottom, get a manager that doesn't spend to win while also stands strong against the critics (like SAF used to be), cut waste and manage spending - and even if/when expenses are big, do them properly, without experiments like Ten Hag nor overblown like Antonio.
@@carlosnn8150 Liverpool fans didnt call for Klopp to be sacked when they didnt make top 4. They arent still living in the 70's & 80's. Uniteds golden era is still to close for people to let it go
@sticktothefacts8905 thats also true, Liverpool had such a long drought that people learned to be patient. And even then, only to some degree, I still remember some anger and desperation in LFC fans, specially post 04 CL but before Klopp: for example, when they bottled that season with Suarez scoring so much.
ManUtd's drought is more recent, and their golden period was way more noticeable in the age of the PL, Sky, glory hunting fans that didn't just root for their hometown/neighborhood team, worldwide fandom, tourists and high priced tickets, and internet bantz. And that MU dominion was even more pronounced on the local league than in international cups, with an everlasting Ferguson that no matter what the other teams did always came out on top, with a club that was the first to sell shares and get a big allseater stadium and therefore increasing financially above the rest, leading to way more "eternal giant" complex on the part of the MU fans (and "eternally hated" among the rest, which created a vicious loop, that made MU fans literally expecting Real Madrid style hirings every window so they could rub it on rivals' faces).
Back in the 70s and 80s Liverpool dominated but did somewhat more sparsely, as the Football League was more even (Villa and Forest won CLs, Everton won a CWC, doubles were rarer); there wasn't nearly as much media buzz about football (specially during hooligan/terrace times, when such press was negative), the players weren't as celebrities, pre-Bosman ruling meant transfer windows weren't as dramatic, the bantz existed more on the terraces than on the pubs, which again were more for locals than for tourists, "big teams" could get relegated, fanbases stayed local no matter what, and so on. And then add a long local drought that hurt LFC fans a lot but eventually set expectations low, and you can see why they gave Klopp a bit more chance.
Granted, Klopp never made them be 14th or even 10th place, maybe 7th at worst iirc? Thus why I see some commenters now saying Mourinho or even Van Gaal might as well have stayed in MU, they weren't thaaat bad (specially Mourinho). Problem is, Ferguson era was so much better, not just on the pitch but off, and that perhaps is what bothers MU fans the most: that with way less money Ferguson did wonders, but now all the cash splashing gets is a bunch of conceited players and haphazard managing stabs in the dark.
It feels like the story of Chicago bulls, I am a bit older and I remember those days, but today no one cares or knows Chicago bulls or Manchester utd.
How many managers does it take before you realise that it's not the manager which is the problem?
They are realising it now with ten hag being sacked, imo if ole got more time and more backing in 20/21 season he’d have his job right now and United would be competing for the title.
I think you guys are on the right track but being on United news?
Ineos came in last season so finally after all this time the main problems ARE being addressed.
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@@chikku807well not really the players still need to be held accountable whether they came in last season or two seasons ago or even 6 they all need to be looked at if we’re gonna address the problems at this club because the mentality is on the floor and it’s a combination of Mismanagement by the top execs and the players getting away with murder
@@lm8276 and that is my point lol. You mentioned mismanagement by top execs and imo that has always been the main problem.
And you mention the players but that's not a 'problem' in this context but rather a consequencem or effect of the Glazers and Woodward's time in charge which again is now changing under INEOS.
That's what I meant that with INEOS the whole structure is finally changing and like you said the players were a big problem but that had to do with Woodward overpaying the fees for them and overpaying their wages and making it a players-run club, but all that should be changing under INEOS.
It's not just that they sacked ETH, or that they're getting Amorim. Imo appointing ETH was actually a very good decision but Glazers, but again they fell short to back him because they still held the rotten culture at United. But with Amorim one of the biggest test for INEOS is not just appointing him but slowly changing the structure and support the manager best as they can
Ten Hag sacked. I just finished watching this😂😂
The cycle continues
Honestly firing Moyes was a shocking decision, 1 season in charge and no backing is insanity
Thank you, first person I've seen saying this. People always default to saying he was in over his head but one season simply isn't enough time to judge, especially with the only signing being Fellaini.
This video is more than just a video. Its cinematic documentary. Very thorough and precise
Despite all the craziness Mourinho still won the best trophy in the past 10 years. He deserves more respect than what he received
At this point, I think the executives of Man United men team intentionally shoot themselves on the foot. Just look at the players who left the club. The ones who were considered “not good enough” or “injury prone” are performing like crazy. McTominay is so loved by Conte. Van de Beek is fit like a horse in Girona. Fred and Amrabat are used properly by Mourinho. Angel Gomes keeps getting better. Ronaldo, Sancho, De Gea. You get the idea. So I think that the ones playing for United right now all still have the untapped potential to be good (and yes, I also include Rashford and Antony). Ten Hag, Glazers and Ratcliffe are just too incompetent to bring their potential to the fullest.
Also, this club seems like a nightmare for normal workers. They lay off and cut cost from the workers 24/7 but somehow still overpaying the players who aren’t even committed to the badge.
You forgot the worst decision United made and that was letting go of Herrera. He was our best midfielder for the previous 3 years, put his heart and soul into every game and we discarded him when we needed him most. No one has replaced his influence in the middle there. We kept Mata instead who just bench warmed. I honestly can't believe we let Herrera go, his passion was unmatched, consistent, hard-working and technical. He even cried on the tele years after reminiscing about the decision, and that was even after he went to a better club in PSG. I was heartbroken to see him go.
@@sped2942 yeah the midfield hasn't been anywhere near as balanced since
Can't mention Ten Hag if you actually believe this. He's not a fool. He sacrificed his reputation like every other manager.
He will get a big job after this no doubt.
Imagine being Moyes and promised all of these signings when he took over to then only get 1 signing and that signing being 6th or 7th choice. It's crazy for how long everything was blamed on the managers yet here we are 10 years later and several managers later and they are still having the same issues on and off the field.
Imagine thinking Moyes ever had the stature to be a Man Utd manager..
@eyeballjellyforbreakfast you do understand that it was Fergie who wanted Moyes or do you think he was clueless and didn't have a clue.
i love how it’s the same story with every manager. so-and-so is going to magically bring them back to glory solely because it’s manchester united and they deserve to be there. what united needs imo is a humble rebuild. it’s clear that chasing big names doesnt work anymore as is evident by their trajectory since 2013
UTD Managers in short:
-David Moyes deserved more time and money
-Luis Van Gaal deserved more time and money as well
-Mourinho deserved more time and money as well
-Solskjaer deserved more time and money
-Eric Ten Hag got both time and money yet failed
-Van Nilsteroy i guess it will be the same as the previous ones
All these names or not tactical master, a charismatic coach like Pep or Hansi Flick
@@noname12300ableas if pep or hansi would actually go to man u
@@noname12300able pep would never go to man u he doesnt have the balls to and hansi flick would prob never go either
both mourinho and van gaal are also very charismatic and more proven managers than both having insane achievements with small teams and not football giants or simply the richest club in the planet
Moyes: should never been hired. Mou: bad upper management, players turned against him. Van Gall: got sacked cause boring football and players didn`t like his management. Solkjaer: all vibes/counteratacks during covid with no pressure of away fans, no tactics, soon he introduced his tactics he got sacked. ETH: spend 300+ on wrong players, media and players used him as a scapegoat, his man management is bad. Meanwhile United spent over a billion on recruitment and other than Bruno none of this players could play regular football in another TOP club, meanwhile whoever Ragnick advised the club to buy turned out to be top talent and sold for 60-80mill. A random dude playing football manager could make better decisions that these idiots.
Yet these are the managers they got. There is something deeper wrong in man u than players, coaches or fans. The spirit?
The Glazers. That's the issue.
Foobatl clubs should never ever be own by indiviuals period. thats against the sole definition of what a club is.
I absolutely despise them.
Wreck it Ralf knew where the problems were. He should have been kept on to work with ten bundy.
What baffles me is that they signed him with the intention of him being some kind of transfer guru for the future. Ended up dropping him in the deep end, everybody laughed at him and he left when ETH came in. Massive blunder. I think he would've been perfect in the current structure.
@ yeah Ralf has been given a bad rep undeservedly. Plenty of pundits are happy to say Ralf had a terrible spell yet every time anyone mentions Moyes it’s immediately followed by “he didn’t have very long tho”
these past few years as a Manchester united hater I've been the happiest man ever
sad life. considering two trophies were won LOL
@@corbynknight5109Ah yes, the FA Cup that did nothing else but prolong the misery.
@@lukabarisic7080 beating city in that FA cup final was a great victory. nothing else
@@corbynknight5109after a fraudlent win against coventry
Ten Hag just got sacked💀💀💀
I’d argue that across the history of Newton Heath/Man Utd, the Ferguson era was the outlier, not the standard.
For the vast majority of 120 years, Utd were a strong cup team and that was it. They had a brief stint of success under Sir Matt Busby then returned to obscurity until SAF.
I would instead argue, that Ferguson era aside, there was very little difference between Man Utd and other decent sides like Everton, Villa, Spurs, hell even Leeds Utd.
This is what Man Utd really are. The greatest manager in history gave them a 30 year dream and they have been awake ever since.
*edit*
LMAO, this had exactly the effect I’d hoped. 🎣
thats actually a really interesting point.
This is a very very wrong take I dont even know how to start to pick apart your argument.
20 premier League titles, 13 FA cups, 6 league cups, 12 FA community shields, 3 champions leagues, 1 Europa League, 1 cup winners cup, uefa super cup, intercontinental cup and the FIFA club world cup. Players like George Best, Duncan Edwards, Bobby Charlton, Dennis Law, Dennis Violet, the busby babes, Cantona, Beckham, Giggs, Scholes, Ronaldo, Ferdinand, Vidic, Roy Keane, Lee Sharp, Mark Hughes, Ruud, and that's not even mentioning half of them. They have one of, if not the largest fan base of any sporting club or franchise in history, the greatest and most successful team in British history, known by everyone worldwide. They have the most iconic stadium in the world and have had some of the greatest players of all time. What's wrong with having only a few managers who are legends? Loads of teams have them. All that means is they never had to sack them. Never mention those clubs in the same sentence when talking about history and greatness. The recency bias is insane
as the guy below said it best. RECENCY BIAS. what utter nonsense, this is such a badly hilarious take that i cant even be bothered to decipher it. but one thing i will say, the reason why you look at only 2 managers and say that this was just brief blip in history is because unlike lfc for example we kept our manager for a long time a combine 52 years between busby and ferguson alone while lfc keep changing managers during their only 2 successful period, we would also be more successful if not for the munich disaster, i could say so much more but cant be bothered with a take this badly absurd and i already said more than intended so apologies
You could make that point about many teams. Liverpool were not a good team until the 70s and 80s. Then they fell off and didn't win the league for 30 years. But then they had a great spell under Klopp with 3 UCL finals etc. United were the biggest English team in Europe in the 50s and 60s.
this channel deserves so many more views
Ive been waiting for a video like this to drop. Really well put together ❤️
Let's not get carried away.The narration is actually alright, but there are countless spelling mistakes and grammatical errors (1:54 'Chelsea City', 20:49 'Firmino Salah Shaqiri' apparently being one person) in the hardcoded subtitles and pretty much all graphics are incorrectly displaying the home and away teams. 'You are nothing you out a fool' at 5:06 is just bizarre. Calling them 'mention United' at 5:45 kind of sums it all up. Including the 'fraud watch' bellend that earns a living from sitting in his wanking pit complaining and never going to any games is also a criminal act.
I get that it's free but clearly attention to detail isn't the strongest suit on display here.
@16ozClawHammer pretty sure it's AI
@@PEPSIMaxMusic Yes, I get that, but that's my point. AI is fine as a tool to help you if you need it. To read that this is 'really well put together' when it's just lowest common denominator, computer-generated garbage with zero attention to detail is deeply, deeply annoying.
Only 3 managers have ever won the league with United. Ever. In history. Only 3 have ever won a European trophy.
There's a good argument to be made that all they've done, post-Fergie, is return to their baseline level.
I’ve been saying this for a while. They are not a club of sustained success regardless. They’ve basically had two great periods under two all dominating managers. The other times is barren desert and mediocrity.
Well said.
Nonsense
@@ngolomessi9385 Facts
@@effkay3691 they won trophies at different periods, they weren’t just this dominate force like Real Madrid is. Just because man united hasn’t won titles with 10different coaches is a very lazy opinion. Eventually they are the most successful club next to Liverpool in England.
@@ngolomessi9385 I’m not saying good or bad. It’s just facts.
The amount of times Rio Ferdinand back tracks on bold statements is ridiculous.
What self respecting, top level manager would take this nightmare job now?!?
well apparently Amorim. at first i thought 'no, he's a smart, young, up and coming high-potential manager, why would he go to Manchester??'
but then the realisation hit 'it happened before to people much smarter, and maybe he's not that smart after all'. Not even a united fan, but it's disgraceful to watch.
Who wouldn`t want to be the first manager to bring success back to United after SAF? Literally anyone with ambition and cofidence which they slowly start losing once they get the job.
@@mandemwallahi Truly blows my mind why any player or managers would ever want to go to Man United nowadays. I feel like it has to be their mindset that they can be the hero and fix them but it never works out that way. It’s truly a shame because we all know how this is going to turn out.
It's not so much that. It's more like ego. They all see United, once the biggest team in the world, now in 13th place. Any manager will think they can come in and turn it around. Why wouldn't you want the job? Think about it, YOU could be the one who turns United into a dominant force again. It's all ego. I really do hope that Amorim has what it takes, despite what people are saying about him doing great at Sporting Lisbon, Manchester United is a completely different ball game.
This video is insanely good, well put together
Enjoined seeing Roy Keane sticking up for Moyes. Club ended mans career. I hope he has no regrets as seems like a nice guy
Did he? Moyes has won the same number of European trophies that Man United have over the last 10 years.
Moyes was a terrible choice of a manager and got rid of the backroom staff. Clown of a manager.
Amazing work. The only thing I dind't agree with, was mentioning that the team was relying on a 33 yo Cavani. He was never the problem, the problem was how much and how well was Cavani fed with passes. Can't blame singular players for the entire team not functioning.
30:11 because this is United we’re talking about , being hopeful is a recipe for disaster 😭
Moyes: Should have never been hired. The job was too big for him.
LVG: The only manager to have a system but he was boring and his football philosophy was obsolete.
Mourinho: Hired 3 years too late and the best manager we had post Ferguson but it was a toxic end for him.
Ole: Should have remained interim till the end of that season but he did had moments. Not good enough to manage Manchester United in the end.
Ten Hag: The worst manager we have and it's not even close. As bad Moyes, LVG, Mourinho and Ole was. They never left the club in a relegation fight and this Eggman Pagan has done it.
The ultimate blame for the Manchester United's demise is on the Glazers and Ed Woodward. Bankers and business men who knows nothing about running a massive sporting institution and Jim 🐀 and Ineos are busy twiddling their thumbs instead of being ruthless and sack Dr Robotnik when they should have sacked him after the FA Cup win. Sheikh Jassim was available and willing to clear the debt but the Glazers chose Jim 🐀 and Ineos to keep the status quo. Until another Sheikh buys Manchester United, we're not doing anything for the next decade. We're screwed.
I think fans and pundit are also deserved to be held accountable, for putting too much pressure on United. So United never have chance to get proper rebuild. If you don't believe me, when the last 13 years United have proper rebuild of young core?
Moyes was too big for United, not the other way around. It's a madhouse of a club, simple as that.
They should never sacked Van Gaal
yeah when Ferguson came to United he had won league titles and a European trophy with Aberdeen, Moyes had won nothing
Mourinho got toxic because he called the players that needed to go. He called out exactly Shaw, Rashford and Martial and the Glazers didn't liked it
Such a depressing times for all of us United fans. Stay strong fellas
Quite. People who think this is bad should have been around in 1974.
But GREAT times for all other football fans 😂
What you have to remember is, this kind of stuff is inevitable for football clubs. The best example is Liverpool. They were THE TEAM back in the day, won it all, had world class players, then they dropped off massively until Klopp came in and sorted them out. That was like, what, 20~ years of misery. We will come back, god knows when though. Wouldn't hold my breath thinking we're going to make this epic comeback any time soon.
@@cool-lemonat least they've the ucl in those 20 years
😂😂😂😂😂
MOURINHO WAS ALWAYS RIGHT, THE FANBASE IS A DISGRACE WHO KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL
I’ve been with Mourinho since day 1 and was against him getting sacked
Do any fans know about football? Kind of an embarrassing comment
Clowns like Woodward sabotaged Jose. Simple as that. They thought Pogba & Lukaku would be enough, when in reality that is the absolute first stage of making a successful team. You don't just sign players like that and then restrict future transfers.
Fanbase backing Hag is the most stupidest fanbase I have ever seen. 7-0 Liverpool and someone still backing him for the 2 Mickey Mouse cups he won by accident.
"you are nothing, you are a fool, and you are a waste of time. Goodnight".
All this over 11 men kicking a ball around a field? Who is really the fool here
When your new owner bought you with a high interest loan and then let you to pay the loan. You should know you have a big problem. 😂😂😂
Glazers was the real clown who put man utd to misery.
I honestly wonder how long it will take you at Untied until you understand that it's not the manager's fault.
At the moment you are no more than an average club in England and not even that in Europe.
The name Manchester United is all you have left.
You have a stadium that is falling apart. A team that hasn't achieved anything for years.
Don't you have a youth academy? Get hungry players, buy young, cheap players who won't be immediately overwhelmed by the transfer fee and rebuild a team from the ground up.
You don't need star players at the moment, you need a team in which new stars can develop.
How many more years do you want to take to learn this?
What other managers never had was time, Fergie built his team patiently with management's support. Stop listening to those yapping fans who want instant result, focus building team with cunning transfer policy, trust your coach and give him authority in changing room.
That clip of Ferdinand talking about "Ole at the Wheel" is the funniest thing in hindsight. 😂😂
I have been a manutd supporter since the 86-87 season. And i have never felt so badly and hurt as i do now, seeing my great club just flonderijg around like a headless fish out of water, really hurtd me deeply.
But!.....such is life.
At some point we as a footballing giant, will bounce back.
The main issue remains for over a decade - detecting problems within the squad and finding their identity. They need to clean the house properly and that means having the balls to sell some players short and buy new players high. You can't build a house on bad foundation.
There are so many reasons why we've been a failure from the coaches, to the ownership, the players, the academy. Everything is wrong.
We are not run like a modern club. We do not have a system, we do not have an identity. The Glazer's left us to stagnate and we are worse off as a sporting association than we were in 2003.
You forgot the fans. Toxic bunch calling for players to go before they even settle in
You cant mismanage a club for ten years and not expect a fall. No owner investment leads to what Utd are today. A shell of their former selves just so the American owners can line their pockets. How much greed does it take?
Great timing
Moyes would’ve worked out but Man U forgot about supporting the manager like sir Alex said
even as a Liverpool fan, its saddening to see Man U at its current state
Can't be a true liverpool supporter then.
I love watching how shit scumchester are and long may it continue.
you are not a liverpool fan. a complete disgrace if you feel sorry for them
Lmao f*ck off you Muppet. You're no Liverpool fan
It really isn't ha
You are a plastic fan if you think that
Man Utd cycle
Manager gets sacked -> Team starts to play better -> Shows signs of progress under new manager -> Goes on to spend more money than GDP of some countries -> Plays unconvincing football -> problem between manager and players -> Manager gets sacked
Here after ten hag got sacked
It is only when I listen to united fans that I remember "ah, I'm glad of what's happened to their club"
comedic timing now that he's been sacked LMFAO
From an outsiders perspective, watching this shows how toxic and reactive some of the fans are
'These boys get managers sacked for fun.' 😂
😂😂😂😂
As long as Man U keeps hiring and firing they are not going anywhere.
Ferguson announcing his retirement and the new manager without giving the fans a time to mourn and time to accept change started the downfall. Klopp announced it before a league cup match giving the owners time to find a replacement and the players and fans time to adjust to a new manager.
And why did Ferguson leave? The Glazers wouldnt support him. Go ahead, blame SAF
Rightly or wrongly, I have always believed out problems started when Fergie left and David Moyes was appointed as manager. I think the biggest issue was the fact that the entire backroom team was replaced, ok it may not have made much of a difference but I just feel like they would have had the experience to help DM so while he may not have succeeded where SAF left off he would (you'd think) have the staff behind him that would point him in the right direction.
Perhaps relegation and a couple years in the wilderness of the Championship would be the wakeup call every ManU fans need.
😂 "he ripped the heart out of it he ripped the soul out of it, and he ripped the passion of the team out of it." Somebody is tell me is that old man alive?
By definition, Manchester United have never had a dynasty. They had one manager who was successful for a very long time. Lettle success before him, little success after him. A dynasty is when success is passed from one ruler/manager to the next.
Like Shanks, Bob, and Co
Little success before him? Ever heard of the Busby Babes and the team of Best, Law and Charlton which became the first English club to win the European Cup?
@@joekavanagh7171 only 3 managers have won the league with MaNU 💀
Errrm Matt Busby?
@@tarakabuddha yes, and they have won the league more times than any other club
Imagine MU has the same operation and management like the way Brighton does
United will never be fixed, It needs massive work. Work I don't think the fans would be happy to sit through. How much money has been invested in that club for number of years. How many times a manager has been scrapped, only to work with possibly players they didn't want. Now a new manager will have to do the same with Ten Hag's signings. Not to mention, how many players there, have constantly let the team down, over and over again, that are STILL there. While the manager gets kicked off.
Owners are a big blame yes, but those players need a serious look at themselves.
"I think the team is where it is because it is what it is" 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥
Managing Utd with the current players is taking on a poisoned chalice.
Until the board makes it clear to players that no one is bigger than the club, the players will continue to undermine coaches. Players at United are having too much power. No wonder they are misbehaving. Throwing good coaches under the bus due to unprofessional, mediocre and average players' attitude. The club should review performance renumeration for every player.
*How the biggest football club in the world was destroyed by its owners*
Fixed the title for you
Never knew Bobby Charlton was so short not just of height but dignity and class as well!
Even if a new manager comes , things are gonna be the same 😢
Amazing vid man good job, love the bit of Irish tv commentary from Didi in there as well. Just a note, the scores are sometimes a bit misleading when you show them on screen, just always put home team first on scoreboard if you're showing them on top of the broadcast scoreboards
If this is a fall with 2 trophies in 2 season, 6 since Fergie retired, I wonder what the likes of Newcastle and Spurs going through
“2nd half of the season we doing a title charge”
A forever classic😂
Man Utd should look at the players' wage structure. There's nothing the players give in return of the high salary contracts they receive.
“You’re job now now is to stand by your new manager”
- Famous last words from the Great Sir Alex😂
Great video. Only thing I would say is that when you display a score eg United 0-4 Everton you must have the home team's score first and the away teams score second. When you mentioned the Everton result it seemed like you were saying Everton had won 0-4 at Old Trafford which isnt the case. Also, making no mention of Ole's Europa League run to the final is odd considering losnig that match was pivotal in changing the trajectory of his tenure as manager.
The problem with man utd is that they don't want to take things slowly that was the problem with barcelona for years but trusting in young players and being patient with the right project can be game changing
Cavani was really good at united
Its NOT the Manager..............Its those Prima Donna players. They want to be bigger than the club!!!!! Sack them!!! YNWA!!!!
What Mourinho said has become reality 😂😂
Blaming mourinho then ronaldo for the team's results was the biggest forms of delulu i've seen from that team, hopefully it'll be back on track one day
Great video mate
As a Mancunian City fan, who was at school during the 90s getting the piss ripped out of me and dealing with the levels of obnoxiousness that seeped out of their fanbase.
This is karma.
Ohh poor Little tommy
@ Doing fantastic now bud.
See things come full circle and then some.
Now just watched a City player lift the Ballon’Dor 😁
@@tomben61801 reason to be happy, 115 reasons not to be in the near future
@@reecenicholls7963 Clinging to the trumped up charges like a crutch I see.
I’ll be back in January when it’s announced City have won yet another case.
Fergie ruined your childhood 🤣🤣🤣
As a Liverpool fan I love United's downfall! lol That said, it is obvious that the ownership / management have lacked long-term strategy and commitment to one vision, which they had under SAF. They really should have given someone like Jose 5-10 years to put things right!
Most comprehensive explanation for United situation. I wish Ruben Amorim 🇵🇹 does a good job
This Channel needs more recognition Idc.
Who's here after Ten Hag got the sack??? 😂 I guess he was right, eras do come to an end.
They have had two god-like managers - Busby and Ferguson - very hard acts to follow - so perhaps expectations are too high and they are an ordinary club after all
Nice timing bro
It’s all because of Paul Pogba.
-Graeme Souness
Thank you so much for this recap. As a city fan, our lacklustre start to the season (by city's standards) left me needing a little pick me up.
This was the perfect tonic.
City 's fall is imminent. Don't imagine you are immune.
Negative media, players, management, club culture, supporters and class of 92 is the main critics. Zlatan Ibrahimovic is right, "Listen, it is what it is". So deep.
27:40 The moment United were ruined for good 😂😂
Yes everything is Ronaldo's fault, like he didn't bail out united dozen times
What to learn from this is don’t manage Man United because if you don’t succeed right away you’ll get sacked, Man United will never go back to the clubs prime because the mentality nowadays is “succeed undefeated or get sacked”
To be fair, all these problems only happen with the senior men team. The youth teams and women team are still performing good as usual. The one problem that actually affects everyone is bad stadium.
United women team is the most neglected women team among Big clubs! what are you even saying!!
Who cares about the Women's team! Waste of time, money and effort.
It was not only Managers that were wrong.
The management was trash.
The players were egoistic.
No passion.
Rashford was shitttt.
Bruno is egoistic man.
Money and fame took over Pogba.
And making players who were really trying to improve or help the team were benched or sacked.
As a ManU fan, it’s heart breaking to support this team and then they play without passion.
Ronaldo or David were never the problems, it was the mentality that was the problem.
They let a trainer bully out the one man who was honest about it all, and the one man who was the reason they didn't fall below 8th place.
Then they allowed Ten hag to spend all that money to bring in his players only to sack him anyways. The new manager was handicapped before he even joined because those players are going to be nearly impossible to offload if they don’t come good.
Mourinho was the best manager after fergie