Mill Hill East - Least Used Northern Line Station
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- We're counting down the least used stations line by line on the London Underground, this time to the Northern Line and the oddity that is Mill Hill East.
You can download the Entry & Exit figures for all Tube Stations here: tfl.gov.uk/cor... (although, it will obviously spoil the series for you if you look ahead at the figures!)
Note: The Waterloo & City Line won't be done, as it's only two stations with passenger figures that are ridiculously high, because the stations are Waterloo and Bank.
There's scope though to do 'Least Used...' on the Overground, DLR and Trams.
22 Steps, Equivalent to a 15 storey building
I will never tire of this.
Hadrionics no that is still a 15 story building
@@user-zt3gd3vb4q 88 steps is roughly equivalent to 15 stories.
@@hadrionics2755 176 steps is roughly 15 stories.
@@hadrionics2755 No mate you should know that 44 steps are also equivalent to a 15 storey building :D
Lol at the guy presumably wondering what the hell Geoff was doing at 0:59.
And at 2:55
At 0:59 ,
Geoff is talking about being on an empty carriage while laying on the floor.
The guy in the next carriage must have asked himself: „What the hell is he doing there?“
Mill Hill East? More like Mill Hil-least used station amirite?
Hahahaha..... no pls dont use puns
Burr ConstantTeen legendary 😂😂👌♥️
That's very witty and clever
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Shut up
I had a very special moment when Geoff pole danced for us.
Geoff I just wanted to say that I love your videos. They are all very very informative and I love the detail you go into about the stations and it’s history and ridership. I watched a bunch of your older videos on the tube before I came out to UK for the British GP last year and while in London I remembered your videos and I went out around on the tube searching out the things you had mentioned in previous videos. It was like a city wide scavenger hunt and I really enjoyed it. I love what you do and maybe someday we can do some tube explorations next time I’m out in the UK. Would be an honor to ride the tube with you. Hope you are doing amazing Geoff and have an amazing weekend!
A video about the Mill Hill East branch... ELECTRIFYING stuff.
😂😂😂
I love the Mill Hill East Branch. Mill Hill East is one of the 12 London Underground stations you can access the platforms without passing through a ticket barrier!
South Kenton
And
Roding Valley are too
@@FusionZenFlame Those are the three which are completely barrier less. There's another 9 which have barriers to one entrance and not to another.
First time I visited this station (in the 60s), there was still a colour light signal (at red) at the North end of the platform, with the track still in place northward. I was trying to see as much of the system as possible with a Twin Rover ticket except north of Rickmansworth on the Metropolitan line which was, apparently, not permitted ( Amersham was a nice place, though!). It is a pity about the Northern Heights being abandoned.
Great video!, i loved the part when you show the old railroad branch covered by grass, the road bridge where the railway line used to be and the capture of the buffers in and out the platform.
Next time I watch Jay Foreman's unfinished london episode of the northern line I will straight away watch this. I think when Geoff said 'Road bridge goes over nothing' it is a reference.
he didn't trespass in a nature reserve though
That's what I'm here... youtube algorithm had this as the next video.
I love this series, I always get excited when one of these videos pops up in my subscription box
Great video. I was in London over this last weekend (22-25 Feb 19) my friend and myself got the Piccadilly Line to Cockfosters to admire the Charles Holden architecture (on your advice) together with Trent Park. We then got the bus over to High Barnet to pickup the Northern Line to Archway - I did suggest doing the Mill Hill East branch, had I known this we would have done!! However, we did get the only electric unit current running between Gospel Oak to Barking Overground from Upper Holloway to Barking!!
No mention of jay foreman's video ?
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No need. They serve different purposes. This is a complement to Jay's vid, not a competitor, and nearly everyone who watches this has seen Jay's vid, guaranteed. And let's face it, in setting out to do this series, this chapter was always going to be compared to Unfinished London Episode 1, so probably best to leave it as a friendly echo in the background; much like any ITV documentary about the 1966 World Cup.* Given Geoff used the phrase "bridge over nothing" which Jay did as well, I think there was enough of an inference there, even if it was a subconscious one.
* Whenever ITV do a documentary about the 1966 World Cup Final, and Geoff Hurst's winning goal, they (have to) use the ITV commentary which was just the rather plain "That's it.... that is it." rather than the legendary "They think it's all over....it is now" spoken by the BBC commentator. The problem is that because the latter is so ingrained in the public consciousness that by not using it, they are implicitly trusting the audience to know it exists. That's kinda what Geoff's doing here - he's trusting his loyal and savvy and knowledgeable geeky audience to know that Jay's vid exists, but does not reference it directly so as to distract from the message of his own video. Best to leave distractions down here in the comments eh.
Not sure why because at 2:25 Geoff says 'Where a road bridge now goes over nothing'. In Jay Foreman's unfinished london episode 1 (northern line), he also says 'a bridge over nothing' while he treks the former route
@@Cpr1234 Subconsciously deliberate I'd say
@@Cpr1234 what other way is there to say it? I'd say the same thing. Well, I'd actually say nowt, but same thing.
That whole area of London, with Mainline & underground railways, plus the Northern Heights plans, blow my mind. SO many plans.
Sampled this delightful branch after seeing this video. Really interesting and got a carriage to myself. Viaduct is awesome!. Thanks for making this video.
Remember waking up at 4am on an empty parked up train at this station; after I had fallen asleep after a night out in Camden and missed my stop. The good old days :O)
I love how you like to visit different stations on the various trains.
I've been trying myself to visit all the routes on my local transit system (we only have busses) and I've used the majority of them. there are just the few smaller routes that I have had no reason to ever use and haven't had time to ride.
Nice one Geoff. You picked a good day for it.
4 stations with single platforms (mostly so I don't spend 10 minutes poring over track maps until I remember that Heathrow 4 and/or Olympia exist every time I watch this video): Mill Hill East, Chesham, Kensington Olympia, Heathrow Terminal 4
I went on the train on the Hainault loop
I got to Roding Valley
Nobody was on my train before we got there
PEOPLE GOT ON!!!!
bruh moment when you watch secrets of the central line
Still think Geoff needs to tell us when he is going to Roding Valley so it can be crowded when he goes. 😊
And Roding Valley is the least used station on the whole network. I bet that was a weird moment
Of course - it's quicker to change at Woodford than ride around! Which is a key reason why it's not well used - those in the catchment have a handful of direct peak trains to London from Roding Valley, and aren't that far from Woodford or Buckhurst Hill, so mostly just go there the rest of the time, avoiding the need to do a one-stop-hop.
1:00 I think someone was scared!
I actually go to this station almost every day because my only bus to school passes just through there. Even if barely anyone uses, to me it's pretty convenient
Anybody else bought the old northern line driver's eye video, from the transport museum, that travelled to mill hill east when they were a kid? those were the days :D awesome vids bro keep up the great content
that's the station 5 mins away from me, I feel privileged to have my own station
hello old me
@@felixboldy1152 I thought I was tripping until I saw it was your name
Bet the tube drivers all see you and go 'oh it's that Geoff up to his usual tricks again ' ;-)
Wow. My childhood in this film, you walk down the road I grew up on.
Wow, I can't believe you were disappointed in the train frequencies on the branch line. 15 frequencies are literally a royalty in any city in Australia, bus or train.
One of those stations. Used to have a through service to London off-peak. But to increase capacity to High Barnet. Hence the shuttle.
Alfie 0202 yes until about 2006 or 2007
About 2500 new homes have been recently occupied or are under construction on a huge site opposite the station, so it will be interesting to see how the passenger numbers change in the next two years.
It would be interesting to see how the passenger numbers have changed since the massive residential developments opposite the station and all around that area.
It also looks like Mill Hill is the only station (at least on the northern line) without any barriers at all.
0:46 love it
the other 3 single platfrom stations?? heathrow terminal 4, chesham and kensington (olympia)
My local tube station. I use it regularly
I kind of miss living there now.
One good thing was that if I needed to catch the train, i didn't need to leave my house until one rolled past my window. That's when I knew I had to get a shift on.
Hi Geoff. You make great videos and I'm a big fan of you. I have ur Tube station trivia book. It's a Really good book.
Louis The Gamer do they sell it at shops
@@travia6688 Amazon sell it.
@@ianwood2554 But not to Americans. Discriminatory!
I swear there's an entire myriad of hidden secret lines and stations revolving around the Northern Heights project. Abandoned stations, unbuilt stations, lines built then taken up again, and these random little offshoot branches and artifacts left behind.
aggghhh my life is full of stations once this was my go to station and Home was around the corner. Now I live in Wemyss Bay another end of the line Station but with the added bonus of being one of the most stunning railway stations in the country. Haste ye Back Geoff
2:50 those benches and in fact the whole room looks like Brighton's seafront
I think TFl should extend the northern line to the National Rail system's Mill Hill Broadway station, and maybe even make a loop to the true Northern Line terminus at High Barnett
Mill Hi- Least 😉
Good One😂😂😂😂😂
Good one
Gary Lumley oof
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I now have crippling depression
In my mispent youth, a few mates and I abseiled from Dollis viaduct one night. Happy and dangerous times.
I've been on a Mill Hill East service starting at Finchley Central and it was packed and I had to stand up
Rode the branch some years back, as part of a plan to travel on the whole tube network!
really good vic the london taxi driver
Thanks Geoff. Have you walked the Northern Heights route from Finsbury Park to Alexandra Palace, Highgate High Level, Muswell Hill (another viaduct) missing out bits like the Highgate tunnels and various access problems. I've also done Mill Hill East as far as you can do to Mill Hill and Edgware.
Bet you have.
I'm the bloke in the All Stations T-Shirt (like yours) who couldn't take selfies on the Aldwych tour in November!
This station is a nightmare when trying to come up with a tube challenge schedule.
Good vids Geoff Keep it up
I love the trains since 2007
Yay a new Geoff video!
really enjoying these videos
Love these videos and series. Can’t wait for the next one. 👍
4:03 DooDoo
For a moment I thought you were going to fail to mention that wonderful viaduct
i love these videos. You're doing a great job!
Handy for the few locals which use it, but a bit of a white elephant branch really considering how quiet the area is, and its easy bus connection to Finchley Central anyway. A shame this was kept and electrified rather than say the line to Muswell Hill which would serve far more people, but that's history!
Hey look it's my station!
Anyways, it's a shame they didn't continue the line to Edgware.
Could they extended the line to Edgware via Mill Hill (The Hale) or alternative route?
It would make us outer North West London residents better connected. The buses do a good job but it would ve great to go East or West by Underground.
@@channel64_thename based on Jay Foreman's video, nope. It can't happen neither have an alternative route between them.
if it wasn't for World War II, it would have happened. But after that, the Green Belt area was set and had the Northern Heights extensions been built, it would have been through Green Belt land and put that area at risk of development. So it was forced to be cancelled.
Should be a light rail
Used to live next to Mill Hill East. The problem with the station is the infrequent service. It’s quicker and cheaper to take a bus to Finchley Central or East Finchley than it is to wait the 15 minutes for the tube. More people would use it if the service were more frequent.
Also thanks for the memories Geoff.
It actually looks nice and quaint. I'm from the US but if I'm ever in the area, I think I'd visit this station.
I'm so sick today thank u for uploading
This is probably going to be a weird comment considering this channel is all about trains, but here we go.. My Nan grew up in mill hill east in the 1940s-50s before emigrating out to Australia. Safe to say it's probably a bit different nowadays.
not at all weird! i love the social aspect and historical aspect that railways can bring about and love that it brings back memories for you!
@@geofftech2 Can you redo the least used Northern Line station as it’s now in West Finchley, please?
Geoff. What if all your subscribers and/or viewers would visit Mill Hill East in this year, would it still be the least used station?
While you're down there on the floor... Looks like the lighter lino has flecks of black in it. I noticed that the Piccadilly trains have blue bits (hey, it's a long rattle in from Heathrow and I was bored), then changed onto the Circle where there were green and yellow bits in the lino. Is this really a thing? Sort of like m*quette but on the floor?
My Favourite Station 22 Steps Up
Geoff, you did it again. How does he find so many sparsely filled carriages...?
I’m actually really surprised Mill Hill East is this low down in the least used rankings, I thought this station would be one of the last to be filmed. Also interesting how the Northern Line has both the lowest AND highest points above ground level.
22 steps? How much is that? I think it’s 15 stories.
oh you know it!!
Yeah I’ve been watching for awhile,
It is really difficult to find out which station has the lowest amount of passengers a year. Like goldhawrk road was not expecting that. Thanks for these videos I can now explore new places in London
Google?
It's pretty easy as they publish the figures every year.
@@takemeaway285 tfl.gov.uk/corporate/publications-and-reports/underground-services-performance#on-this-page-2
I used Mill Hill East for the first time yesterday.
Trains coming in and out of the station have to travel across the Dollis Brook Viaduct - the highest part of the entire London Underground system above ground. It is ironic that one of the most undistinguished stations on the network is linked to one of the most distinguished structures on the network.
That Viaduct, dammit will have to go back to photograph this!!
Much love for the Northern Line.
Cool video Geoff
Surely the Waterloo and City is going to be a draw.
No, because both stations are also served by other lines
Eric Mugisha what 🤣🤣😂😂
Bank is the least used station on the Waterloo and city line.
1:15 Looks exactly like the old steps that led up from the platform at Shoreditch.
We have a neighborhood here called Mill Hill, even that is least used with all the boarded up rowhomes
I have been there. It is useful to get to Mill Hill scout camp!
Great video love all this history keep it up :D
Nice video Geoff 😀
The Unfinished London video by Jay Foreman goes into much more detail about why Mill East is on a one station stub from the mainline. Mind you, nothing explains why they need more than one car. I presume they cant run less than two cars because of the fancy pointwork, which might cause a one car train to lose power from the third and fourth rails.
Because all trains on the Northern Line are indivisible six car units
@@norbitonflyer5625 I thought that must be the answer. A six car permanently coupled train is unusual in rail transit. In the U.S., a "married pair" two-car train is the longest typically seen.
@@HSMiyamoto The Class 700s on Thameslink are twelve-car units. Technically, I think the Northern Line trains are made up of two three-car units, but since each unit only has a cab at one end, you have to run two units coupled together to form a usable train.
@@norbitonflyer5625 That's interesting. Chicago uses very short cars to accomodate a minimum radius of just 90 feet and I think every car has controls on one end, so 2 car trains are minimum size. 8 car trains arw max. The Skokie Swift shuttle is usually just 2 cars.
@@HSMiyamoto "A six car permanently coupled train is unusual in rail transit" Not on this side of the pond. London Underground hasn't built what it referred to as "car stock" (individual cars which can be mixed and matched as required) since the Q stock in 1938, which was all phased out by 1971. It's all been "unit" stock since then. Currently, the only 2-car Underground units are used on the Central and W&C lines - each unit has, at most, one cab, so the minimum length of train is four cars (as used on the W&C). The Central runs eight-car trains, usually, but not invariably, the middle two units are both of the cabless variety. On National Rail, electric trains have almost always been fixed formations, but diesels can be shuffled more easily - when each car has a diesel engine on board, there is little to be gained by sharing smaller (but no less essential) equipment like brake compressors and batteries between cars.
Nice and quet station. Most of the time I visit London (by the way, I'm from Holland) I go there. Just to feel a little bit of rural London... :)
Doesn’t surprise me considering only 1 train can fit on the platform at a time
*Dollis Brook Viaduct*
18m high (1800 cm)
- 304 cm per storey -
5.92 = *6 storeys*
I suggest an alternative Soundtrack for that video: '853-5937' by Squeeze from the year 1988. There it says 'She's in Mill Hill, I'm in Bermondsey. It's the end of the world by the Northern Line'. Well 41 minutes to be precise. And not by Northern Line exclusively nowadays. Squeeze would have to use Jubilee Line.
Question: Was Bernondsey served by the Northern Line in 1988?
Bermondsey station opened in 2000. The nearest Tube station in 1988 was London Bridge (which is technically in Bermondsey) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bermondsey#/media/File:Bermondsey_Met._B_Ward_Map_1916.svg
Always want to ask Geoff, did you just exclude Waterloo and City line from this series？
Yes, he did. As stated in the description of all videos in this series: 'Note: The Waterloo & City Line won't be done, as it's only two two stations and it's figures are ridiculously high, because the stations are Waterloo and Bank.
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@@matienlaciudadoh #neverreadvideodescription
@@LightbulbTedbear2 But both stations are also served by other lines. Waterloo has more passengers overall than Bank does.
@@matienlaciudad Geoff does say that in the description, but I can't believe they have isolated the figures of people going in and out of stations and managed to infer who comes in on a specific train.
So Bank and Waterloo *must* have different numbers.
A Waterloo and City video could highlight the challanges of the maths of looking at touch in/out numbers to guage passenger numbers.
@@DavidShepheard That's a really good point, although the number of passengers on both stations are disproportionately high when compared to the other stations on the list. 🤔
one day I want to go to Mill Hill East. Just have to fly in from Helsinki 😂
Well, you don't have as long a distance to go; I'd have to fly in from Singapore
@@alfyryan6949 HAHA im from there too! 😂😂
No wonder it is mill Hill great video Geoff! Will you be able to do a bonus after these videos do least used station of overground, Dlr exectra
Hey Geoff, I am betting the user count for this station will go up a huge amount in 2020 due to all the new housing and flats built on all the old barracks land and what was the Medical Institute. Also, is it possible to walk from there to where Mill Hill The Hale was??
Should’ve started the series with W&C Line at Bank station in my opinion.
He said he wasnt gonna do the w&c
you can watch jay foreman's unfinished london video also
0:30 Acttually, Mill Hill East was not electrified in the 1930s, but in 1941 in order to serve the army barracks there
The closure of the station for mainline steam passenger services in order to begin the electrification process for tube trains was in 1939. So technically the process began then. As Jay said in the video everyone watching this one has obviously seen as well, the WAR!!! came along and put a halt to the completion of the process until 1941.
The mainline steam services between Finchley Central and Edgware were withdrawn on 11th September 1939, eight days AFTER the war began. It's possible that they began electrification on the Mill Hill East section then, but I thought most of the works before 1940 were on the Archway to East Finchley section.
I also wouldn't use Jay Foreman's videos as a source if I were you. They're good as an introduction to the topic, but they're riddled with inaccuracies, such as when he blamed Ernest Marples on the loss of London's Trams, despite the fact the last London Tram ran in 1952, seven years before Marples became Transport Minister.
"I'm on a train" - Geoff Marshall, 2019
he quite often is....
I use this station every day lol as my horse is in millhill east weird to see it on TH-cam lol
Hi Geoff,on your secrets of the bakerloo line,you said anything passed queens park didn't really interest you,can I ask why?also I would love to see where they store the old stock if you have any footage of that.
Thanks for the vids
Beyond Queens Park it's not really Tube - it's a National Rail line on which Bakerloo Tube trains happen to also run. (Between Harrow on the Hill and Amersham it's the other way round...…..)
Great video, I ended up on the Northern Line on Monday (25th February) but headed to High Barnet because I already cleared Mill Hill East line but didn't clear High Barnet line but couldn't believe how warm it was for a February and at 0:46, don't try pole dancing again :p (just kidding)
Passengers: How many floors there are?
Underground: *yes*
Hey Geoff you forgot to mention that the through service also ran in off-peak until 2006 or 2007☺🎩
Used mill hill once when Totteridge car park was full. Nice change and did wonder where it went to, why did they pull up the track?
Is the DLR and Overground going to be in this series?