Faces of Africa - Winnie Mandela: Black Saint or Sinner? Part 1
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- Winnie Mandela, a freedom fighter and the ex-wife of the late former South African president Nelson Mandela. Loved by many for her struggle to free her husband but on the other side disputed because of complicity for murder. Now more than 20 years on after her husband's release from prison, she seems to be forgiven and certainly not forgotten. But will her legacy go down as a black saint or sinner? Faces of Africa investigates on who Winnie Mandela really is...
This woman did more for South Africa than half the men in the ANC!
@@annhilator55 the person you were conversating with deleted his messages, it's only your comments. It's out of place, delete them.
EXACTLY. Every Woman , she is CN a example for each and everyone of us . In any country!
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@@silviataylor936she was the queen of the tsotsis. What a crap hum😢.
Winnie is the only person that kept the name Mandela alive.
yes she is not thanked like mandela
Sure. I believe she did more than Mandela himself. That's why I Never call her Winnie Mandela but UWinnie Mother of Nation. SA should apologize to her.
Exactly
Winnie Mandela kept the struggle going within the South Africa when many were in jail (including her husband). She was only human, she led people who made mistakes but remains an icon.
She's a war criminal and so is her husband apartide is still in Africa
No true African ever questions Mama's legacy.
she literally killed an innocent 14 year old
I find that kind of statement idiotic James Rivers. Many folk are African and don't need to agree with Winnie Madikizela Mandela to be true African. So what is a true African please pray tell. As a journalist I was like many others at the time in the forefront of the sweeping political changes in South Africa. In my view she was evil, anebriated with the idea of power, she certainly is not a mother of any nation let alone a mother of South Africa, as we are not a nation, but many people's divided, that's in great a part due to two parties, the National Party and the ANC. Winnie never epitomised unity, but hankered on dividing the races in South Africa, just like all her loveable STALL...WARTS in the ANC are doing now. She was a murderer full stop. She was dishonest even as a deputy minister under her own husband's government, so much so that Nelson and her had irreconcilable differences. Let's not paint her with a brush likened to that of an artist like Michael Angelo, she certainly was no Angel at all. A liar, narcissist of the highest kind
She's the most powerful woman in Africa who was not afraid to stand up and fight for what she believed in. She championed the fight to freedom but she humbly puts it that she's not the only mother of the nation but all other women in her age group who contributed to the end of apartheid. Indeed Mandela is popular and famous because of Winnie. May God bless you.
The Real Mbokoto.
She was a very nice and a devoted wife.
Powerful
@@wanyerasimon7290 w. %%%%%--
Njinga Mbande is somewhere laughing
No black saints will free Africa. Only panafrican revolutionaries like Winnie Mandela could do it. We don't need no saints but revolutionaries like Cabral , Nkrumah , Moumié , Sobukwe , Sankara . God bless Winnie Mandela.
Bazzaen
Go fuck yourself...You idiot..
Bazzaen
hahahahaha - Have a nice day Bazzaen.....
Nelson Mandela would have long been forgotten /past away in Robben Island if Winnie Mandela was not there....she is a compassionate/courageous human while many others are not at the same time...
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Vickie Weiss Your beautiful
Inez Whatley Who exactly do you think are “God’s people?”
Long live the undying spirit of Winnie Mandela long live.
I rather pay my tribute to Mama Winnie Mandela just like Baba Robert Sobukwe, Baba Chris Hani and Baba Steve Biko never Nelson Mandela.
I fully agree n she is not being celebrated
i don't really care what the media says Wennie Mandela is our Hero. RIP Mama Wennie Mandela, Mama African Queen
I Love this woman with passion,,,strong woman ,,went through hell while in prison but that didnt hinder her from standing again,,she has a BIG heart...
@Be Frank to win a war u must sacrifice..
Yes I MamaAfrica
Honestly women are strong..is just the society we live in deprives them due to masculinity!
I love you for loving her❤
Winne Mandela really fought for her husband Mandela and freedom of south Africa.
G P why?
@@yasnyne go and do your research.
Am sorry my brother but I don’t buy that, because she stuck her neck for her ex and Nelson Mandela traitorously sold her out when Mama Winnie was accused of murdering Stopei Sepal.
You are an idiot.
@@jeddiajones4570 o tsebang wena ka history ya rena?
Homola!
I am Nigerian, this made me cried, I have always told my friends that Winnie was the real MVP, she deserves my respect forever, I desire to get more information about her, anyone with links pls....... I don't know who said this that, EVERYTHING IS RIGHT IN LOVE AND IN WAR..... Blame those who started the war, THANK YOU
Ever heard of the Nuremberg Trials?
The best politician South Africa ever produced, a Queen who delivered us a free South Africa
Free, true but the country is now dying. The country is now falling rapidly apart. There is a lot of tribal strife and violence. Nobody wants to invest in SA.
Not true. I have investment in SA.
You can sometimes see the pain in Winnie's eyes when she speaks of aparteid. Whether she murdered that boy or not, I still respect her character for being so strong & determined to liberate South Africa despite all she had been through.
If it’s wasn’t for Winnie !! Mandela would of die in person !! Winnie is one of the greatest freedom fighters of all time ✊🏿🇯🇲 ✊🏿🇿🇦✊🏿
She was supposed to be forgiven and become the first lady it pained me
@@stabilechirwa8259 It pained me too that she couldn't enjoy the fruits of her hard labour, instead another woman did
Most of comrades were in exile...she faced white supremacists and endless humiliations, torture and harassment. She kept alive the struggle. If she had kept quiet Nelson would have died in prison and SA would still be under apartheid rule. I love her Eternally. She is a hero, a liberator and a mother
She created a shining example of blackouts, extreme poverty, genocide, roving bands of tsotsis and a tool of the CCP.
If you've walk her shoes, her struggles and been through what's she's through and faced the complexities of what her life was and come out squeaky clean then you have the right to question her till then Winnie will forever be a hero.
Yes, SA has become a shining example of freedom and prosperity. The country has gone to crap because of her. She turned SA into South Chicago.
Force was needed for change to come about.... winnie is the mother of modern South Africa ....A Queen
She turned the country into a hellscape. Turned it from a modern country in a corrupt dismal place to live. Do you people even know how the average person lives in that country? If you did, you'd never want to live there.
she is a Black Saint no matter how bad you will try to portray her..
No, she is not a saint.
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Nearly all of whom were other Blacks she claimed to be a freedom fighter for.
@@meta4282 tried to kill people who kill her nation
@@learntospellpeople Indeed. Saints don't kill to defend their people. She is a FREEDOM FIGHTER!
Oooh yes we adore her
The Boers killed hundreds of thousands of children, but when the death of a 14-year-old boy occurred in Winnie's dwelling, she was accused of the crime of which did seem so clear as to who was truly responsible. Do not get me wrong, I do not say what happeded to that poor child was right, but the inccident was used against her and she was painted black. To me, Winnie was a true mama of Africa, she knew our pains and she devoted her life, and indeed put her family in great danger for the sake of all South Africa people. She did not fight whites but she fought for equality. She could not stand and watch her fellow black South Africans get killed and jailed for stupid reasons. She did what was necessary to end the agony. R.I.P mama!
She's and be the heart beat for the Nation She's more than the ANC She's the ANC R.I.Power Mam Winnie
She did what was necessary. That’s it and I’m very grateful for her sacrifice. It’s an impossible situation to be in.
Hi...Can you please clarify that..
She did what she had to do for her people PERIODT
mama Winnie a true hero , its a sad that she was betrayed by her own ,who tried and tarnished her image , but nobody can take away all the great works she did for the good of S.A and Africa as a whole . love you mama rest in power
If there is anyone who fought for SA independence is this mama, Winnie you got my respect.
This was supposed to be our leader. Mama will always be an icon and African Queen 👑
Can we stop letting the West tell our story, it's time for us to tell and teach out own history
Sad that they use a black face to tell the opinion of a white man
Yes🙋
Our black journalists are failing us
First get informed and educate yourself. This journalistic piece is done by an African journalist salim Amin ( a Kenyan,son of the famous journalist Mohammed amin)
Who are stopping us?? The story are out there if you are a black journalist do it
Rest in paradise powerful lady FREEDOM FIGHTER💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿
Our black goddess Winnie Mandela
Yes Winnie could be violent and angry but you don't fight Apartheid being nice and polite - those violent bastards only understand violence. She was a product of the Apartheid's hatred, She did some bad things but OVERWHELMING good. RIP dear lady x
BRUTUALTRUTH Did she kill any whites or only black?
@@mbundudna8715 What does it matter?
She was a freedom fighter
I think, Winnie Mandela is a true example of women being strong and better leaders than men. We stick to the agenda and conquer and accomplish it, despite the challenges.
In wars, there are always casualties.
Not in all wars you kill an innocent 12 years old child.
In wars there are always atrocities against humanities
How many babies and childeren are dead and gone because of Amerika Europa and Israël?
@@VitalMusic217 Liar which innocent person was killed and where is your condemnation of the pale face demons who killed millions of black south afrikan children since their arrival in SA from their demon-hole in europe. 12 year old or not you do not love, hug or kiss a traitor who allowed the pale face demons to used him!!! And what proof do you have that she did such act. Go and read your Christian Bible and see what your God Jehovah did to the children who mocked his prophet(2 Kings 2 vs 23-24).
@@VitalMusic217 Liar which innocent person was killed and where is your condemnation of the pale face demons who killed millions of black south afrikan children since their arrival in SA from their demon-hole in europe.
Mama Nomzamo, mama weCOSAS, mama webafundi eMzansi, mama wesizwe, a true mbokodo, a revolutionary. This woman inspires a whole lot of us who are into student politics and politics in general. Militant,radical yet having a mother's touch.
I Wil never forget u mama Winnie u were so strong.may ur soul rest in peace great revolutionary.
My sis named after her. My dad really adore Winnie. He thought she is the only woman who have gut to confront many powerful rats.
veranya2074 are you a South African Indian you look very beautiful
Mandela would have been forgotten without her.
Pattie Bell and Stompie (along with many others) would be alive without her. may she burn in hell for eternity.
@@VoorTrekker88I don’t think many would have lived as long a that evil brutal demonic system of Apartheid didn’t fall. I am sure you are the seed of those demonic beings.
@@theonly6359 that apartheid sistem was keeping south africa well. look at it now
Winnie Mandela is one of the brightest Angels in Heaven...will love her forever...💔❤️🙏🏻
It is not anger….It is realizing that you are in the most holy fight and you are determined to win over the evil enemy.❤️
Winnie Madikizela Mandela was a true fighter. She made Mandela famous. After her death confessions were made about the propaganda that was orchestrated against her just to diminish all the good work she did for Africans. Amandla, Long live Mama Winnie Long live. May you Rest in Power. You fought a good fight AFRICAN QUEEN.
We don't need her to be a saint and we won't wage a moral battle against her! She was a strong revolutionary figure, stronger than Nelson Mandela himself. The racist government knew it thats why they engaged in that petty war of demonizing and criminalizing her! they knew that if she had stayed with Nelson Mandela, history would have been different today! Viva the Undying Spirit of Winnie Madikizela Mandela, Viva!
Strong woman, one of the strongest women in Africa toth.....
The world actually
She made Mandela...
Made this comment five days before her death without knowing the end was near.
You gave so much for the liberation. You remain a heroine! Enjoy your deserved rest Winnie
She's a Saint. Her influence has reached America in a way the can be observed in the 2020 uprising. We will continue to fight for justice like she did in her life. I love you mama and I pray that you're proud of us.
Thank you for admitting that the BLM movement was insurrection. South Africa is a shining example of a failed country.
The nerve these white folk have by telling our own story mama Winnie forever in our heart ✊🏿 she fought the good fight 💗
Ignorant racist the journalist who produced this is Kenyan, not white. It's fair balanced you seek propaganda plus you can't claim a story of a public figure citing race.
@@Aalliiiq A white person telling our African history. We should be telling it ourselves.
Mama Winnie was many things, and just like any great public figure her legacy is contested.
Thank you so much for this! I've heard about Winnie, but know nothing, & now i can change that!
Learning is cool! ✌❤ from Canada
Nelson Mandela is a let down, I love Winnie Mandela she is the true freedom fighter
+afroblack1000 Winnie is a God sent to South Africa those who criticized Winnie are Cowards
NIMROD KUSH Real Talk......Agree with u a 100%
+afroblack1000 Mandela betrayed her :/
***** Mandela is a traitor, I love Winnie to death.
afroblack1000 preach
Winnie Mandela made great contributions to the liberation of black South Africans who were encumbered with the yoke of apartheid. Though somethings went seriously wrong in the processes of this struggles, it should be noted that she meant well for black south Africans and south Africa as a nation for all South Africans: blacks and white. All her effort was geared towards realizing equity and common good for all.
I love winnie mandela
Mother of the Nation 🤱🏾case closed🤱🏾
Ororo Mafurah Don’t forget murderer and torturer of children too.
I agree
@@VoorTrekker88 you are irrelevant. Since when do you and your demonic ancestors ever care about black people?
Much love for Winnie Mandela!
All is fair in love and war. May her legacy live on.
The arrangement of words puts tears in my eyes. It was difficult and painful
Rest In Peace Mama Afrika you fought hard to defeat the cruel Apertheid regime
Love her.Real freedom fighter.Always praise Mandela.But.She represent the true spirit of her ancestors.
Brave incredible woman
What a true Betrayal...it would have been better for her to have remarried to someone else and move on instead of waiting over two decades but she obviously took her vows seriously even though her husband didn't
Black Saint. End of Discussion
Ndiathanda Winnie Mandela inkuleko LenMzantsi
She is no saint she is a warrior. saints dont kill children but a warrior would. she did what she had to do to set an example to the others not to snitch.
You need to really about your sense of ethics when you absolve a child murderer by calling her a saint. Anyway she died today not that she'll be missed.
Black Saint. End of Discussion
No.
JOHN DOE
No. And don't think you can name call or brow beat people who disagree with your view.
Great woman winnie Mandela you did a great work may God bless you and keep you safe you're a blessing to the world thank you
This is the only woman who made sure that her Husband is not forgotten.
May her dear Soul Rest in Peace My Black Beautiful Woman Amandla
There shouldn't even be a video that asks this. The woman is a fighter and a saint and a mother of a nation.
mashuganah vinny: Im South African, I don't have to research anything about her. I know everything about her and what she and her family went through. And if you think she was evil, then Im happy to be called evil as her, I wear it with honour.
Thabo Lowé you’re stupid
honestly, it depends on who you ask because some people say she is good and some say she is bad like other cases such as che guevara. the best thing is to hear the information and make your own decision.
Divide and Conquer! They tried to destroy Winnie in so many ways: Prison, beatings, banishment, accusing her of murder which they most likely did themselves and setting her up so many times with negative and untrue press news. All this because of her fighting to help her people. We must not believe the lies of those who tried to destroy our sister.
If it wasn't for Winnie Mandela, they would be no Nelson Mandela.
Absolutely!!
mama winni Mandela uzo si nika bazooka uzo si lwela mama... we love you winni
Great documentary!
White cult
To the presenter of this documentary, who are you to judge Winnie Mandela ? She is a thousand times a man more than you.
Love Mama Madikizela Winnie
She is a brave woman
good documentary
MAMA AFRICA. OUR TRUE WOMAN LEADER. We love you so so much from Soweto born 80's. We were the 💯💯❤❤❤❤✊
Her mistake out of desperation was to throw daggers, not speaking daggers only.
They trapped her in a corner.
Even if she did not do the violence herself, some bad kids that adored her took it too far and they blamed her instead.
One of the great revolutionary of Africa and the world.
Mama Winnie remains my Heroine, what a strong hearted woman she was.
Khalid Mohammed said you cannot mention Nelson Mandela without mentioning Winnie Mandela. She's the real struggle hero. She was the one fighting while the other guy was in jail for years before coming out to sell his country to his enemies.
This documentary makes me sad.
SAINT from The Universal Heavens!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GODDESS!!!!!!!
I hope I meet her one day but if not I will always know she was a true revolutionary
Why does the narrator sound so bitter?
Show me a saint that's not a sinner.
Saint Saint Saint. She is likened to a freedom fighter, Nat Turner, who fought against slavery in the Americas. Power to the people!
I now realised that, you are the first woman or freedom fighter that Nelson Mandela secrified before he could sell us out all... Rest in peace fighter, fearless leader I have ever seen..
It was so sad that Winnie no longer had feelings for Nelson, when he got home.
Mama zEinnie! Mangutyana! I am happy that my convictions to your leadership have been proved proven true- but just after her death. Most of us would not have known how to approach the aggressive oppression laws and practices, were it not for WINNIE MADIKIZELA Mandela.
We miss someone of her calibre today. There's an unbelievable oppression And people's souls have been sold out And now are dying under false pretense that people must be fearful
A true revolutionary who never sold out!! Continue to rest in revolutionary peace mother of the nation❤❤❤
Okay this time me and my daughter are watching this video of Winnie Mandela
SAINT! True QUEEN!!!!! Rest in POWER✊🏽
Mandela was and still a legend but Winnie was my true hero .The death of the young boy is sad nd i hope the family recovered from the hurt.War can really make you forget who you are and morality escapes you nd the only thing that remains is survival
Winnie M. Mandela is the face of the 21 Centrury woman. However she was years a head
Of her time. She is a leader and being a woman added to her powerful legacy. She was a lioness. Loved, hunted for the roots, protected and bread the nation of South Africa. Many might not be willing to admit but energy is authentic and conscious. Can never displace honor. Winnie made it easy for me to identify my own strengths. She stood her ground and ran a liberation without a man....this was the one tho g that gave black women the image we needed to invite our own soul fire... And I felt that her state let her down. Power only had a masculine connotation! Amandla
I miss her role as a Mother of the Nation. Lala ngoxolo mama
Viva the spirit of Winnie Madikizela Mandela viva. A true freedom fighter and mother of the nation. You have my respect. Mama. Rest In Power mama Nomzamo.
Winnie Mandela, First True President of South Africa!
Long live the Indigenous, Native African Heroine!
Mama Nomzamo flaws and all you really fought the best way how.. hope it's lives on till we're really free indeed💪🏿💪🏿 Amandla
It’s her tenacity for me ❤❤❤❤
SAINT OR A SINNER is for God to Judge, But Winnie Did a Lot for the Liberation of South Africa. She Stood for Mandela and fought his cause till when he was released. But Mandela sold her out what a Shame.
@Be Frank 🤣🤣
@Be Frank cant be possible if stompi in heaven but winnie Is in hell
@Be Frank 🤣
lala ngoxolo mama Winnie, may eternal peace overshadow you.
she was no sinner, all the pain ,hate and fighting spirit of SA was bottle in 1 person ,she was the secret weapon no1 expected , she was my hero, and even today she still leads us , Maibuye iAfrika.
Sinner is saints, so what she gives order to change her country. She is a true leader of Africa not only south Africa! RIP Queen of Africa!
The epitome of a phenomenal woman I salute you, blessings to everyone if you haven't yet repented and accepted christ Jesus as your Lord and Savior please do so before it's too late it's not God will for none to perish Acts2vs38
Exploring the complex persona of Winnie Mandela, the question of whether she can be categorized as a saint or a sinner is undeniably profound and disconcerting. On one hand, her actions have undeniably transformed lives and pushed society forward. Yet, on the other, her legacy is tainted by controversies as dark as night.
Ultimately, the concept of redemption is a fundamental part of life. But it raises a thought-provoking dilemma: Can we extend redemption to those who have never genuinely acknowledged their wrongdoings?
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so thankyou