The Revelations in Dawnshard | Stormlight Archive Lore and Easter Eggs
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- Dawnshard by Brandon Sanderson is the latest addition to The Stormlight Archive. In this video we'll examine some of the connections and easter eggs throughout it!
Spoilers for Way of Kings, Words of Radiance, Oathbringer and Dawnshard throughout!
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Biggest revelation for me in this book was that the female "goncho" is "goncha"!
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Gancho = male
Gancha = female
😂😂💀😂😂
I heard a Brit on a horse channel using goncho.
@@arpitgupta4948 Yeah, I always thought of it as having a spanish kind of sound, rather than the british one in the audiobook xD There is a severe dissonance between the Herdazians' voices in my mind, vs. how Michael Kramer voices them.
Lopen's growth in this book is so good. So glad that the oaths, despite being the same set of words, are different for each person depending on who swears them.
One more mention of Dawnshard in Way of Kings by Honor himself in a vision
“You might be able to get him to choose a champion. He is bound by some rules. All of us are. A champion could work well for you, but it is not certain. And … without the Dawnshards … Well, I have done what I can. It is a terrible, terrible thing to leave you alone.”
Oh awesome, thanks for adding this!
Did Honor say it or stormfather said it ?
@@samarendra109 pretty sure honor in the recording / vision
@@MrWykedtron Yes it was in the Dalinar visions.
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It’s the same difference because the stormfather is honors cognitive shadow materialized that’s probably why honor only trusted him with the messages because it was a piece of him
The Way of Kings is becoming more and more of a goldmine the more Stormlight Archive progresses. 😍
Right... I bought audio dramatizations and purchased the same stories in graphic novel fornat... I haven't yet started buying leatherbacks, but am thinking on it.
It’s been so great to see Rysn go from a forgettable side character to a central part of the story! So excited to see where her story goes next.
I really hope she becomes even more prominent in the story :)
Forgettable? How could anyone who uses the term "imbecile grass" be forgettable?
@@NumbFlynn 😆 I loved that interlude, I just had no idea at the time how important she would become!
@@LostinDiscovery I wonder if she'll be a perspective character for books 6-10?
@@NumbFlynn exactly! I was constantly wondering what Rysn and her Babsk were up to after that interlude.
The Heightenings she started experiencing were what made me okay with her not becoming a Radiant (I was actually disappointed from the start of the book because once I saw the focus that was put on her disability, I just knew there was no way any author would let that character become something where they'd magically get healed. That would be like a kick in the face to real disabled people). But the Dawnshard now allows her to be powerful, which means she gets to stay around as a significant character :) Which is all we really want.
But he did that…with Lopen..
@@Mister3Pac The approach matters. Lopen always played off his disability as if it didn't affect him. This tells the reader that we're not going to have a serious disability when it comes to Lopen. This kind of character can be healed in an unrealistic way without it being a cop out. Rysn, who was depressed because of her disability... that's way too real. It needs to be handled more carefully. That needs a solution where she doesn't unrealistically get the disability lifted, but learns to live despite the disability instead, which is what real people with disabilities have to do. Sanderson knows this and handled it well
@@Mister3Pac also with lopen it was just an arm. Not saying that isn’t a big deal. But not being able to use BOTH your legs is definitely more impactful
@@vallano8970 my comment had nothing to do with which had more of an impact or not.
@@Mister3Pac I never said it did, did I? Your comment implied some sort of hypocrisy or contradiction or double standard. Hence why I said not being able to walk is more impactful, because it’s DIFFERENT from Lopens situation.
Not being able to bond a spren as part of the deal is such a Chekhov's Gun. No way this series ends with the gun still unfired on the mantle.
I feel like it’s going to be a Seon not a Spren that she bonds, thus not breaking her bargain and expanding the world hopping
or she could get investiture another way. I wouldnt put it past hoid to give her some breaths for fun next time he sees her
Not really, its just establishing a limitation for this characters... specially as if she bonds a spren she will be able to heal her back and I think sando wants to keep her disability
We don't know enough about the sapience of the Tai-na (island size greatshells) and the mandra/luckspren, but perhaps the luckspren broke Rysn's fall because the Tai-na greatshell asked its bonded mandra to save Rysn.
Do you all realize we will bet Stormlight #5 next. It's a conclusion to a 5-book arc. I repeat, CONCLUSION. We all know conclusions and Brandon Sanderson goes so well hand in hand. I cannot wait.
I believe Brandon has said that the next Cosmere book will be Wax and Wayne 4.
@@andrew_ray no, I meant after RoW. We will finally conclude the first arc.
@@myribstellmesheslying Just a few more months now to Wind & Truth. But perhaps you would like to wait for a second printing? There are bound to be typo's and such that get cleaned up in the second printing. ;)
I thought it was interesting that in Kaza's chapter, Akina was supposed to be the place where soul casters came from, but Nikli mentions that the soul casters there were gifted to the Ancient Guardians.
I didn’t notice the king, that’s awesome! Also chiri-chiri is a Pokémon lol
Fantastic breakdown and congrats on almost 600!
Hahaha she totally is. Thanks so much man!
I enjoyed this novella more than Edgedancer. It seemed to have more important content than Edgedancer. I mean holy crap, this is some very necessary stuff needed to know moving forward. Enjoying these summaries. They are helping me put pieces together that I missed from other books. I am very interested in how this series connects with Sanderson’s other books. One in particular you eluded to. Szeth’s black sword and now Rysn’s ability to see colors more clearly were certainly not lost on me. Perhaps there could be a future video on the connections to his other books and how they might play into the bigger picture.
Read warbringer. That will answer a lot of questions for yah.
I have 3 points and a theory/question!
1)So we know the Dawnshard is 4 primal commands. And that each of these Dawnshard encompasses 4 separate pieces. So the command “Change”, would encompass the trait of the 4 shards which closely tie to Change.
2) we’ve seen, and what you mention, The effects of the Dawnshard on Rysn is very similar to the effects of breath on Nalthis. She sees more vivid colors, hears voices more musically, and tastes food better.
3) We were told that the Dawnshard follows intent and command, which is literally what Breath uses in focusing magic.
Do these points determine that Breath is a more potent magical ability? Is Breath a less evolved version of magic? Do the 4 shards which make up “Change” allow easier use, or simpler use of abilities?
I’m just so excited to see where Brandon goes with these, what the 3 other Primal commands are, and which shards are part of which Primal commands.
I pretty much had the same though process as you and have no concrete answers! Thanks for the fantastic comment! I cannot wait to see where it goes either :)
It could also explain why our favorite Returned is on Roshar.
Endowment must've based BioChroma on the powerful magics she already knows/has used before (aka the Dawnshards).
OR, perhaps all magic systems of Investiture boil down to the Command and Intent theory, just that the shards have limited the Command and Intent to specific ways.
I finished dawnshard today and saw the video. The references in The way of kings was mind-blowing. The cosmere connection was indeed something that I appreciated a lot. I expected dawnshard to be similar to edgedancer but I think dawnshard is better in terms of storytelling and plot line. Loved the video. Keep up the good work.
I agree with you man! Thank you!
I've had this video saved for WEEKS and couldn't watch until I found time for Dawnshard. Finally finished it last night and now I can't wait to start RoW! Another fantastic recap, Christian.
Also WHOA almost 3k subscribers! Glad to see so many people have turned up since these books came out!
Ahh, thank you so much!! I hope you enjoy RoW, it really lived up to my enormous expectations :)
Dawnshard is a great book, along with Rhythm of War in my mind
There is actually a sort-of reveal about Yalb's survival in WoR. Shallan is sketching without thinking about it. First she sketches sailors climbing out of the water and is certain that one of them is Yalb, despite being too small to see defining features. She dismisses this as her mind worrying about the sailors whom she had just shipwrecked. But then she draws what is clearly Ash destroying a bust of herself, revealing that these unguided drawings have some sort of supernatural ability.
I just finished Dawnshard and I love this review!! The cosmere implications are mind blowing!!
Love the foreshadowing you pointed out from Way of Kings. I have no idea how all this will play out in the books to come. Excellent video!
Thanks so much! I can’t wait to see where it takes us.
I desperately need a Chiri-chiri riding Worldhopper team with mega-Invested Explorer Rysn, Scholar Shallan, and Worldhopping Veteran Hoid
Don't forget humming Pattern, sword-hoarding Adolin, and potentially-not-a-deadeye-by-that-point Maya
yes please
I so waited for Navani to somehow find out about the Sleepless from Lift (from her interaction with Arclo in Edgedancer) and get back to Rysn about it. I don't know how much influence mentioning Arclo in the negociations would have had but it would have been a hair raising moment and a nice throwback at Edgedancer.
Really enjoy your channel, keep doing what you do!
I found you with this video - you were one of the first (and still the best) with this great Dawnshard spoiler-discussion. You were there right after I finished and needed to share with SOMEBODY!
Thanks man!
Dude, you are doing great! Love that you are as excited about the books as we are 😃! Love what you are doing, keep doing it 😃❤️👍
Thanks so much!! Absolutely :)
Love all your cross referencing! So helpful in making sure I catch all the cool interlocking bits. So excited to dive into Rhythm of War and watching your videos afterwards 😊
Thank you! The book is fantastic so far, appreciate you sticking around!
Please keep these videos coming. You do an excellent job highlighting tiny details that I missed on first read.
Thank you! Will do :)
Brilliant commentary and presentation, as always! Thank you!
I just read Dawnshard. I put this video on my watchlist so I could watch as soon as I finished. Great video!
Love your content man, so much. I knew all this stuff long ago but this just popped up got me so I gave it a watch.
Congrats on the 20k subs! You're a star now, bay bee!!!
Just finished the Dawnshard, and absolutely am mind blown.... 🤯🤯🤯
Just had to jump to some videos to see what other people thought of it, and to see easter eggs / callbacks. Thank you so much for keeping this strictly to stormlight archive and not spoiling anything outside of it.
I'm about to start Warbreaker before I dive into rhythm of war. I'm pacing things out so i dont have to wait as long for book 5 to drop and the novella about Rock.
Cheers 🤘🏽❤️🔥
His world building is unlike anything else. Tolkien was important for the concept of building an immersive world, but reading the original trilogy and the hobbit you dont get much of it. Sanderson takes it and runs with it. I re read the SA after I read every new book he releases and it just adds a whole other level. Every time I pick up on subtle foreshadowing or hints that I missed prior
I just finished dawnshard and came running to your video! Stormlight is my intro to sanderson books and i physically cannot wait to read more of the consmere and learn about all the things being alluded to throughout SA
I just finished this a few days ago and loved it!!! So happy I waited for the physical edition!
Ooh I'm going to have to read this! I've added this to my to-watch for when I finally read it :D
Another awesome video! Keep them up 😊
Thanks so much!
Great stuff! Dawnshard was so exciting! so you think we will be seeing Stormight Dragons too huh lol. And the Sleepless, what!? i wasnt expecting so many big revelations in this novella but dang he gave us so much to think about lol
Me neither man! It was so good.
@@LostinDiscovery Hasn't Brandon Sanderson said something about the 17th Shard being a Dragon? And If the Larkin's can reasonably be called Dragons maybe the 17th Shard, or Wit's pen pal in Words of Radiance/Oathbringer, is a very old Larkin.
@@jatzi1526 Frost is the dragon, he leads the 17th shard which is an organization far as I remember. Though we will supposedly get a book on this at some point.
@@vivusthevivusthing6182 Theres a dragon on Roshar, maybe its frost. Unless the larkin counts yeah
There is a dragon on Roshan but its not frost or chiri chiri. Let me know if you want to know who it is
I’m still waiting on the wind runners to get ambushed by a bunch of coins flying at them. Iykyk
i cant wait to watch all these videos once i catch up!!! (giving me more reason to HURRRYYY UPPP)
Thanks Yasmin! It's going to be such an awesome journey :D
I wonder if someone highly invested like with Breath or another Dawnshard can sense someone who is a Dawnshard. Can Odium sense she has it or the Stormfather or a previous Dawnshard like Hoid? It will be interesting to see how her having it affects her and just to see more of her knowing she has it. And she was forbidden to become a Radiant, most likely if she were one then she would be able to access the command and use the Dawnshard
Do we know that Hoid held a Dawnshard?
@@garrettwyckoff8711 wob.coppermind.net/events/443-dawnshard-annotations/ yes, Brandon talks about that in his annotations for Dawnshard (what he says about the Sleepless is interesting too)
Dawnshard was such a good little story on it's own and feels REALLY big for the Cosmere in general and the future series Brandon is going to write!
Possible minor spoilers.......
BranSan has confirmed that Rysn sees colors more vividly & tastes things differently like heightened characters in Warbreaker because of the intense amount of investiture the Dawnshard gives her. Warbreaker characters with several 100 breaths are in the same boat and we shouldn’t make any more connection with the books other than that. He also confirmed that investiture from allomancy and Stormlight are not nearly as intense and that’s why there’s no reference to color or taste in your ordinary Mistborn or Radiant.
I was disappointed when I read that because I so want there to be deeper connections between these books and worlds. IMHO BranSan is still at the point where he’s telling people that the connections are loose and you don’t need to read Warbreaker or Mistborn to enjoy SA. I truly hope this changes on the back 5. Great vids, btw.
So the heightenings can come from different sources of investiture? I mean it seems like the same thing, even talking about a "command". Awakening needs commands in order to work and I figured this was similar, but the dawnshard itself is access to a special command not normally accessible just by Breath heightening. What it does I do not know but he may have left some clues in the epilogue of DS. The command warms within her when she talks about Chord's shardplate for example. Also a single word in italics 2 or 3 pages before that seemed out of place, she felt "comforted". But comforted was in italics. That last one is probably my tin foil hat. I'm just trying to speculate on what this special command does.
@@mrothk01 - according to the WOB it would seem to be the case. Investiture effects of both heightening and Dawnshard have color and taste as a byproduct. Obviously there are going to be other effects from Dawnshards that we just don’t know. All Brandon said was that they aren’t the same or connected to Endowment in any way. I look at it sort of like lashings in SA and allomantic push/pull in Mistborn. Both allow the user to “fly” but they are not directly related. As for your other points, I also was wondering about the “comforted” bit.
Great name, btw.
“A mythological treasure, Brightness, much like the Dawnshards or the Honorblades. Certainly worth seeking, but only with great caution."
SHALLAN TO JASNAH
Taking the Dawnshard, known to bind any creature voidish or mortal, he crawled up the steps crafted for Heralds, ten strides tall apiece, toward the grand temple above.
FROM THE POEM OF ISTA (JASNAH'S NOTE: I HAVE FOUND NO MODERN EXPLANATION OF WHAT THESE 'DAWNSHARDS' ARE. THEY SEEM IGNORED BY SCHOLARS, THOUGH TALK OF THEM WAS OBVIOUSLY PREVALENT AMONG THOSE RECORDING THE EARLY MYTHOLOGIES.)
"You might be able to get him (Odium) to choose a champion. He is bound by some rules. All of us are. A champion could work well for you, but it is not certain. And ... without the Dawnshards ... Well, I have done what I can. It is a terrible, terrible thing to leave you alone."
A MAN CLAIMING TO BE THE ALMIGHTY, SPEAKING TO DALINAR
I wonder what a shard like Honor could do with a dawnshard? Would it have Ascended him again and/or allowed him to defeat Odium? I can't wait to see how powerful they are.
great video, helped me digest the adventure i just read. god i hope i can get some sleep before my copy of RoW comes
I’m glad it helped! Hope you do!
I love this novella! Awesome that you're so quick with a video :)
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Really like Lopen's realization at the end and the (presumably) incredibly big role given to Rysn. Very excited to see where her story will go next!
I loved it too! Lopen and Rysn's character moments were so heartwarming in this book.
I love your videos, Christian! Your energy and smile are infectious and you're just an adorable guy. Thanks for the trans character shout-out, it was so nice to see!
That's so kind man, thank you! Really appreciate you checking them out and sticking around!
The Warbreaker tie-in is so awesome!!!
Dawnshard is amazing.
Spoilers for answers to questions Brandon has answered at signings and other places
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We know that the “weapon” used to kill Adonalsiam is the same thing that gives Hoid his immortality.
So does Hoid have another Dawnshard? It essentially confirms that the 16 vessels used a dawnshard to shatter Adonalsiam!
That's a very cool detail! I've seen many fans stating that Brandon has confirmed Hoid took on a Dawnshard? If that's true then its implications are very, very interesting.
Brandon said in Reddit thread that Hoid had a Dawnshard in the past, but does not possess it now. To whom he passed it on is RAFO.
@@LostinDiscovery From the Reddit thread about Dawnshard by u/mistborn himself
**Annotation tidbit: Hoid was a Dawnshard at some point in the deep past, and the reason he (even still) cannot physically harm people, or even eat meat, is related to the changes this made to his spirit. (Consider this the same fundamental principle as savanthood.) The few of you who have read Dragonsteel know that him being a Dawnshard was also the source of his immortality in that book, though the terms were different back then. (The word Dawnshard was never mentioned, for example--though the primary story of Dragonsteel (which is no longer cannon) was about several people who unwittingly become Dawnshards.)
And a preemptive RAFO to all questions on this point. :)**
@@dhruveshpatel1109 it’s an never ending hole of intrigue!!!
So the ending implies she has the third heightening, this if true implies she has the fifth. Did you notice that description at the end when she mentions Chord's shard and how they belong to her now? The "command" pulsed with warmth as she said that. Another clue, though I do not know what it means.
In chapter 59 of WoR Wit comments on having perfect pitch (after mysteriously disappearing for some time). I had assumed it had to do with the magic system on Nalthis, but now I wonder if a Dawnshard is at play.
He has at least two hundred breaths to reach second awakening for perfect pitch. Also, he uses Breath to make a doll walk for a kid in alethkar. Whether he has breath from the warbringer world (I forgot the planet's name) or cuz he held a dawnshard, i dunno.
Sorry for the multiple posts but just thought about the fact that the Sleepless tell Rysn that the Dawnshards are capable of destroying wolds. Have they seen this firsthand? Their home world maybe?
No need to apologise! I'm wondering the same thing... it certainly seems to be pointing that way.
We already have information about that. It was revealed that the humans coming to Roshar from Ashyn used the Dawnshards to destroy their planet (Ashyn), that's why they had to escape and come to Roshar, begging for the Singers to take them in, and later settled in Shinovar.
Great video!! Where was the king? I missed that
I wish Dawnshard would be release on audio book already.
Finally caught up to everything in the Cosmere...
Started Warbreaker last May and it's been an amazing year filled with Cosmere. Now only Rhythm of War left 🤤🙌
So maybe Sanderson will have a Cosmere crossover like MCU Infinity War?? That would be awesome!
I freaked the f*ck out when Rysn started noticing the enhanced colours
0:40 the problem with Dawnshard is there is no audio book copy yet
Risen becomes radiant rides her dragon into battle against odium as dal daddy's champion
I also thought the discussion about aluminum was interesting and how it related to that "other" magic system.
I'm confused if the dawnshards are commands that Rysn now possesses, or if she just has one of many?
If it's one of many, it seems like her dawnshard has given her Breath. It implies that each Dawnshard would give a person access to one of Brandon's magic systems.
Am I reading this right, or am I looking at this all wrong?
I think that distinction is hard to make. From what I can tell she has access to one extremely potent Command but doesn't have the capabilities to put it into practice.
It seems like a symptom of that is achieving at least the Third Heightening from Warbreaker (I'd have to look back and check out what each Heightening gives you so this number might be wrong).
If each Dawnshard gave access to a different aspect of Cosmere magic that would be very cool, lots to think about!
I’m pretty sure Rysn only has one Dawnshard. Was it the command to “remake”? Something like that.
As for the heightenings that Rysn gets access to, I bet that’s just a consequence of the amount of Investiture she (probably) has in her now that she has a Dawnshard. As far as I can tell, Breaths are the only magic system that let you *hold* investiture (other than Stormlight, and even there, don’t the radiants mention how Stormlight makes the world seem more vibrant?). My thoughts are that holding any kind of investiture gives you heightenings, but most magic systems (like Aon Dor, allomancy, Aviar, etc...) don’t give you investiture, they just let you use ambient investiture.
Since it seems like Dawnshards are likely made of investiture, the Dawnshard Rysn holds probably gives her some heightenings.
@@kyeemond4108 Good theory
It does seem like she has breath now... which means that she will be able to use cords as limbs to move her legs just like Vasher uses it to strongthen his limbs in Warbreaker...
I usually listen to you in the shower, you should release some videos where you have way increased volume for us deaf guys :D
Wait a minute. Has it been specified whether Odium has a Perpendicularity or not?
We know Honor's Perpendicularity opens at the choice of Dalinar and Ishar, while Cultivation's Perpendicularity sits squarely at the Horneater Peaks, so where is Odium's? Does he not have one in the Rosharan system?
I suspect that Odium's Perpendicularity is on Braize. But it's possible that the Everstorm now counts as a Perpendicularity
Maybe that's the purelake? As mentions of void spren happened there in Dalinars visions.
Please tell me which magic system the heightened senses are eluding to
Warbreaker 🌈
@@LostinDiscovery Funny thing is, I'm literally watching your "Why you should read warbreaker" video as we speak😂😂
Yeah I wonder how someone with the Dawnshard command 'Remake' will ever impact a world with Unmade. Ha! I'm about to read RoW for the first time so we'll see!
Chiri chiri probably won't be a dragon as she has no dragonsteel, though she could be something similar like a cross between a dragon and a greatshell
how do you make sure a fused does not keep returning? you bind its soul with a dawnshard... hollyshit....
So at this point there could be three different ways to kill, or dispose the fused trap them like spren, anti void light perhaps using a dawnshard. And thinking about it I feel like a bondsmith could server there ties to Odium
Warbreaker, same as Whit at the end of RoW
I think Chiri will deffo be a dragon because wit confirms the existence of dragons in Rhythm of War
Pretty sure Wit says that there's only one dragon on Roshar, and that she's "shy". And I'm also pretty sure that Brandon has said that this is Cultivation
It's been over a year since I read Oathbringer and I simply don't any recollection of this Risen character
I've made a video summarising her whole story from WoK to Oathbringer, you'll probably find that helpful!
@@LostinDiscovery I'll check it out. I've been racking my brain trying to remember this character because I read and loved all every book with the exception being Dawnshard and Rythm of War.
She has had one interlude per book so far so she is one of the most prominent interlude characters...
@@adoniscreed4031 I have to re reread the books. It's been a couple of years now and there is a LOT of material there to remember.
It starts 0:56
If I’m not mistaken, when Shallan washed ashore from her vanished ship, she came upon her trunk with a note from Yalb which made it clear he had survived. I always was waiting for him to make another appearance in the story after that.
No note from Yalb with the chest. Don't know where you got that...
Okay so hear me out...they said she couldn’t bond a spent...they said nothing of a seon. Which BS has mentioned could provide interesting affects if a bonded pair traveled to Roshar.
I completely forgot about Kaza's chapter😐
Woah woah woah! You have to either censor or pick a new thumbnail! You can’t have someone all out and about showing off their safe hand like that!
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You cremling .. stop spoiling dawnshard.. even though i am listening it.. even though i love u.. stooooopp
Hey man, I preface the video saying there will be spoilers for the book.
That was a joke.. i love your spoilers😂🥴.. i am halfway through rhythm of war..(part 3) and more i read more confused i was getting so i was wondering should i read dawnshard before continuing ROW. I think not. Thnx for explaination btw.
Brandon rly doubled down on saying trans rights. the reshi king is a trans man
This book was extremely boring. This was very surprising to me because the first two books in this series are both in my top 10 favorite books of my entire life. For whatever reason, the author (I'm not sure it was really Sanderson and I really hope not) picked the most uninspiring characters of the entire Stormlight Archives cast and created a giant banter session. I literally had to speed read the large portions of this story just to get to the parts that actually advance the plot.
The book reads like an 11 year old girls take on Inclusion and Unconscious Bias, where the foreigners and women and handicapped people all think and talk about their feeling with each other ad nauseum. It was literally terrible and reeks of woke virtue signaling. I think the author wants a TV series.
I only read this because events from this story were alluded too immediately in the 4th book. If the 4th book is ANYTHING like this, I'm completely done with this series and this author. I've already come to terms with the fact that Martin won't ever finish ASOIAF, doing without Sanderson will be a walk in the park compared to that.
You feelin vomiting to the wrong crowd. Accept its like an anime and there's gonna be some filler. least nice development in mosts eyes.