I would argue that, while Fox dominates, Captain Falcon is more iconic to smash. Everything about him, his voice, his moves (Falcon Punch, Kick, THE KNEE) all were made up by Sakurai. He’s arguably the most hype character to watch people play in tournaments, and he doesn’t even have a franchise anymore. Captain Falcon is the most iconic Smash Character.
@@nacitalatincirli793 Or like, Mario. Personal preferences don't make something iconic. If we're talking about the creator's favorite, it would be Kirby. If we're talking about the icon for all of Nintendo, the company that made Smash, it would be Mario. If we're talking about popularity throughout all of Smash, it would probably be Fox because he has half of the entire frigging competitive scene in Melee alone.
Merfolk Surprise has he been judge by a court and pronounce guilty ? Not saying he’s clean, but let justice do its work. He is not Voldemort, there’s nothing wrong saying his name, he’s an important part of the history of smash bros.
Barbazboub I don’t understand why they have to ignore him like he never existed. Denial won’t help, the smash community have to accept what happened, learn and rise stronger.
ElTitoGuille literally like half of the top 100 plays fox. I know damn well the other half doesn’t play marth, considering the falcos that would be there
Fox aka shine boi. Fox has always been one of my favorite characters and even though Nintendo no longer exactly "cares" for star fox as a game he will be immortal if Nintendo still keeps making smash bros games.
Ikr fox is my second main he is such a fun character to play and he does still get games doesn’t he? His most recent one was Star Link or something fox is still doing ok lol
@@JugularJohn yeah the wording there definitely sounds like you're saying they're doing something dishonorable for not saying his name. I'm not attacking, just sayin you might wanna edit that.
I feel I should point out that, in Melee, m2k and Armada remarked Puff as being above Fox earlier than Hungrybox's reign, which people used to mock them over. These days, people take these comments a little more seriously.
18:22 In the beginning, everyone thought Fox was going to be bad in Ultimate because the up smash didn’t kill and he couldn’t go through shields with illusion, and the fair didn’t drag down, fortunately they fixed the up smash from the demo to the game release,
Melee fox can only chaingrab himself and Falco, the only other character he has grab follow ups on throw with is captain falcon but it depends on DI and %. I would not say he chain grabs “a lot” of characters.
Loved fox in 64, picked falco early on but he just felt too slow so I switched to fox in 04 It was a revelation when I downloaded videos of top fox players and saw shines, edge hogging, up throws. I won a tournament that year thanks to ripping off wavedashes. I'm not good, I met a guy over 10 years later who was into Melee, I beat him maybe once. He's really fun to play against, but gets bored before I do. Ill play melee all day given the chance, but I haven't owned a Nintendo console since 2011
@BONK!, what’s up! I really actually enjoyed this video, even though I hardly ever go with Fox. I’m trying to pick up a meta knight in curtesy to you (of you???).
Woah woah woah , hold on , no the reason fox doesn't dominate the meta is not bc you can sd with him, as good as he might be he gets comboed by everyone and a lot of his matchups against top tiers aren't even that beneficial to him, but it's definitely not bc it's easy to SD with him
All the melee talk and going to say the Swedes are the best foxes????? Leffen great, but Armada picked up fox strictly for h-box puff since the peach matchup was so bad. No touch on mango winning back to back evo with fox??????
who is more iconic? CAPTAIN FALCON in his home series you dont really see falcon like every minute of the game because hes in a car but thats not the reason hes not very well known from his series his series is really old and f-zero never really took off into orbit but falcon was lucky to get into smash hes now really well known in his smash appearance and f-zero (because of before mentioned reasons) wasnt the game that captain falcon got his popularity from and with a falcon punch and a knee he opened a hole inside our hearts captain falcon also has flahy moves and combos that are fun to watch and perform, moves like falcon punch and kick that the smash team came up with and grab combos while nerfed in ultimate still really fun and thats why i say captain falcon is the true icon of smash
Nah. I personally don't agree with clumsily skirting around a player's existence (especially because of how indiscreet/conspicuous it is), but the video isn't about him or the character he played so...just let it be. But if they do a video on Diddy Kong...that's another story.
They forgot the part that where Fox died in 2020 during the pandemic.. no, not due to covid, he suffered from Ultimate's stupid online lag and a random Shulk nair-ed him to death.
64: Very good character but why would you pick him over Pikachu, Kirby, or Captain Falcon? Melee: Technically the best character but some argue Puff is better and human error severally hurts the character. Still top 2 in the game tho Brawl: Basically only Japan has good Foxes so you're better off maining Meta Knight or IC's 4: Top 10 in the game, potentially top 5 Ultimate: Started off great but slowly dropped a little. A very good character but you're probably better off learning Wolf or the new buffed Falco. Fox is still a good character tho
Fox is a *shining* example of what a good character should be.
Game Egg ah yes a man of quality
I hate you...
In ultimate he over rated, he’s only high tier
...was that a pun?
Will you play me in fox FD, no items
I would argue that, while Fox dominates, Captain Falcon is more iconic to smash. Everything about him, his voice, his moves (Falcon Punch, Kick, THE KNEE) all were made up by Sakurai. He’s arguably the most hype character to watch people play in tournaments, and he doesn’t even have a franchise anymore. Captain Falcon is the most iconic Smash Character.
I 100% agree.
I agree that falcon is more popular but through the years he's been either lame(when he was good) or sad(when he wasn't)
@@franciszekbalcerowski1814 to me he has always been a high-tier underdog or low-tier hero
UMMMM KiRBy
@@nacitalatincirli793 Or like, Mario. Personal preferences don't make something iconic. If we're talking about the creator's favorite, it would be Kirby. If we're talking about the icon for all of Nintendo, the company that made Smash, it would be Mario. If we're talking about popularity throughout all of Smash, it would probably be Fox because he has half of the entire frigging competitive scene in Melee alone.
Notice they won't say Zero's name just the best smash 4 player in the world.
And they croped the video, so his name doesn’t appear on screen.
Because, as we all clearly know, saying ZeRo's name outloud will bring back luck for the next seven years
Merfolk Surprise has he been judge by a court and pronounce guilty ? Not saying he’s clean, but let justice do its work. He is not Voldemort, there’s nothing wrong saying his name, he’s an important part of the history of smash bros.
Dropped right to the comments when I heard that.
Barbazboub I don’t understand why they have to ignore him like he never existed. Denial won’t help, the smash community have to accept what happened, learn and rise stronger.
"Can chaingrab lots of characters"
Falcon
Falco
Himself
LOTS OF CHARACTERS
Thats like more than the half of all melee players
At least some of the most important characters of the game
Marth is as common as fox
ElTitoGuille he’s as common as Falco, not Fox, look at the top 100
ElTitoGuille literally like half of the top 100 plays fox. I know damn well the other half doesn’t play marth, considering the falcos that would be there
For his Neutral Special, he wields a *_GUN_*
FOX: H>IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIYYYYYUUYUYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
*No items, Fox only, final destination.*
that joke is so overused its like agressively not funny
I get a slight chuckle every time I hear it.
I like that they used foxes melee rapid jab to show his frame data -_-
Fox also has "a gun"
*Joker wants to know your location*
Falco: Hands of my CA
Fox: HIYYYA
"the best player in smash 4's history"
word play
I noticed that😂They didn't want to say Zero's name
@@stevenflores7405 they even had his match running when it was said lol
he was good at smash 4 because he only smashed 4s
@@EgoRenovarem OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOF
They zoomed in to remove his tag, good move
1 reason why Melee and Ultimate are simultaneously the best games of the 21st century: *Fountain Of Dreams*
*Both Now Fox Only
I like how Fox's voice was re-recorded in each installment of Smash
Hiya !
Fox aka shine boi.
Fox has always been one of my favorite characters and even though Nintendo no longer exactly "cares" for star fox as a game he will be immortal if Nintendo still keeps making smash bros games.
edge lord Imma be honest, Fox in Smash is absolutely busted.
Ikr fox is my second main he is such a fun character to play and he does still get games doesn’t he? His most recent one was Star Link or something fox is still doing ok lol
@@rageboy9803 not really,still lacks recovery,fire Fox is quite punishable.He is defenitly a high-top tier characte though.
@@harleyoyelade9988 wasn't it star fox zero?And like sonic boom rise of lyric sold better.
U can’t talk about frame data and how good his moveset is then show his worst move
I peeped that too. Like what? Lol.
Its like when he talks how fox topped the tier lists and just scrolled through 2003 lists lmao
I love how they couldn’t even say ZeRo’s name and only called him “the best smash 4 player in the world” cause of all the drama that’s happening.
I tought the same lmao
The honor? Lol acting like this is some sort of horrible thing they did.
Henry McCue
No I’m not saying that. I’m saying that absolutely no one honors him anymore due to what he did. I agree what he did was wrong, actually.
@@JugularJohn yeah the wording there definitely sounds like you're saying they're doing something dishonorable for not saying his name. I'm not attacking, just sayin you might wanna edit that.
Being a child predator isnt drama, its a fucking crime
My Ultimate main, Well yeah, fast as a rocket and fragile as a window. He is just my style. Those juicy shine spikes are amazing.
12:05 armada thought puff was the best way before he even knew who hbox was
fox has amazing frame data and speed
*puts multijab and ftilt on the screen*
Can’t wait for Zero’s name to stop being a taboo
Don't hold your breath
Fox is the most popular competitive Smash character. I'd love to see you do a video about Falco, them being similar characters and all.
Petition to make the new intro mewtwo down aring the cloud cpu insted of cloud up aring mewtwo
where do I sign
No. It hurts(I'm a cloud main)
@@bharadwajkk6823 make mewtwo down aring clouds worst matchup the lol
No the mewto getting upaired is iconic
I'm loving this series
Me too
Where are all of the other 63 smash games?
I guess Z**o is a bad word these days lmaooooooo
None is a much less offensive variant of the word
Guido Mista no not that one either
I more of a fan of TwO minus tWo
@@JeskaiEye lmfao
You don't give attention to those who had done what zero had done
*"-where Fox s h i n e s"*
Someone got paid to come up with dat
Unintentional joke?
I feel I should point out that, in Melee, m2k and Armada remarked Puff as being above Fox earlier than Hungrybox's reign, which people used to mock them over. These days, people take these comments a little more seriously.
Can you do the Competitive history of Jigglypuff?
Go to false swipe gaming, they have fox and pikachu as well,
Quite good
Amazing
Horrible
Horrible
Meh
Falcon is the most iconic Smash character but Fox is up there.
18:22 In the beginning, everyone thought Fox was going to be bad in Ultimate because the up smash didn’t kill and he couldn’t go through shields with illusion, and the fair didn’t drag down, fortunately they fixed the up smash from the demo to the game release,
Melee fox can only chaingrab himself and Falco, the only other character he has grab follow ups on throw with is captain falcon but it depends on DI and %. I would not say he chain grabs “a lot” of characters.
"So what's shooting fox down?"
HBOX intensifies
I’d argue that Zain shuts down foxes wayyyyyyyyy more
Loved fox in 64, picked falco early on but he just felt too slow so I switched to fox in 04
It was a revelation when I downloaded videos of top fox players and saw shines, edge hogging, up throws. I won a tournament that year thanks to ripping off wavedashes.
I'm not good, I met a guy over 10 years later who was into Melee, I beat him maybe once. He's really fun to play against, but gets bored before I do. Ill play melee all day given the chance, but I haven't owned a Nintendo console since 2011
they should do one about donkey kong
This is the first time I’ve heard someone unironically mention the MLG.
Wdym mlg era was actually pretty important and quiet long in melee
@@xi_dave_3014 Yeah, but I wasn’t born yet.
Falcon is smash for a lot of people in the same way fox is, so those two be most iconic despite my love for Falco
God it's amazing how different melee looks from 2014
Love these vids. Keep doing more!
Star fox Was a popular character -bonk
@17:25
BONK
Hey
@BONK!, what’s up! I really actually enjoyed this video, even though I hardly ever go with Fox. I’m trying to pick up a meta knight in curtesy to you (of you???).
@@valkoln8436 Glad you enjoyed! And if you want some good MK tips, you should check out the guides I helped with on Takumi's channel.
Takumi.... I’ll be sure to check him out, thanks!
I literally just watched the false swipe gaming video on this lmao
In melee Falco was one of Fox hard matchups along with Pika
That’s why I said hard matchup
you mean even? Both fox and falco had even matchups
Fox isnt the mascot of Melee he is the Main Character in Star Fox
Woah woah woah , hold on , no the reason fox doesn't dominate the meta is not bc you can sd with him, as good as he might be he gets comboed by everyone and a lot of his matchups against top tiers aren't even that beneficial to him, but it's definitely not bc it's easy to SD with him
21:13 the fact that i am forced to see fucking sans on a smash tier list still pains me months after his release.
"a solo fox player has never been ranked number one" neither has really any other character in relevant history other that jigglypuff
All the melee talk and going to say the Swedes are the best foxes????? Leffen great, but Armada picked up fox strictly for h-box puff since the peach matchup was so bad. No touch on mango winning back to back evo with fox??????
Can we get a video on marth?
Nobody:
Pro Guides: Fox has.. a GUN
who is more iconic? CAPTAIN FALCON in his home series you dont really see falcon like every minute of the game because hes in a car but thats not the reason hes not very well known from his series his series is really old and f-zero never really took off into orbit but falcon was lucky to get into smash hes now really well known in his smash appearance and f-zero (because of before mentioned reasons) wasnt the game that captain falcon got his popularity from and with a falcon punch and a knee he opened a hole inside our hearts captain falcon also has flahy moves and combos that are fun to watch and perform, moves like falcon punch and kick that the smash team came up with and grab combos while nerfed in ultimate still really fun and thats why i say captain falcon is the true icon of smash
Little known fact but Fox’s shine reflects projectiles.
This is a joke btw
Water is wet
also a joke btw
Fox wasn't a middleweight in Brawl, he was a middleweight in 64.
He was still light in Brawl
Why I hear galactic team music when they introduced Light ?
People underestimate Brawl Fox
Damn they did Zero real dirty in this video
Nah. I personally don't agree with clumsily skirting around a player's existence (especially because of how indiscreet/conspicuous it is), but the video isn't about him or the character he played so...just let it be.
But if they do a video on Diddy Kong...that's another story.
@@DoubleCFiend They named every player larry played against other than him. It's obviously political.
@@OpPenguin24 No kidding?! 😒
@@DoubleCFiend Sorry bro, didn't read the whole comment lmao
RIP Rick May
They forgot the part that where Fox died in 2020 during the pandemic.. no, not due to covid, he suffered from Ultimate's stupid online lag and a random Shulk nair-ed him to death.
Been waiting on this one✨🙌🏼
Fox was always a fun character to play as and always good. Even at his worst.
17:11 yeah, it's apropied they call...you know who only as "the best player of Smash 4"
Gosh this video is so complete and so interesting !!😎
“The problem with fox is human error”
*shows chillin dude sucking for like the next 5 clips*
My B
Awesome video man
My gawd the double drop kick should’ve made a come back
To this day the best comeback match I've seen is Light vs Nairo. Holy shit! That's an intense match!
We don’t say that name anymore
@@hilarioboi4941 YOU guys don't say that anymore.
Seamus McBass welllllllll
Nairo is back boys
@Bring Peter Griffin to Super Smash Bros i never stopped.
Fox was never bad in any smash game.
In brawl he wasnt the best
Cat Klutz neither in smash 4, ultimate and 64👌
Makes sense even though in brawl fox was seen as a high tier having bad matchups against Pikachu Sheik and Ice Climbers
How about pikachu?
MrGamerE pikachu is better than fox in every game but melee
Oh man, I still remember the days when pros were saying Fox would be bottom tier during the Ultimate-demo era.
16:52 did he zero-death him?
Pro Guides got a Discord now? Cool!
Considering your the best meta knight player in the world, it would be pretty cool to do a history of meta k3
19:11 G&W low tier lol its funny to see the tier lists back then
Fox has a GUN
FOX IS SO ICONIC
Ah yes. Melee is truly where he SHINES!
Yes. There is one more iconic. Captain Falcon. We want those Falcon Punches!
When I think Smash, I think of Mario.
But Fox definitely shines in Melee.
When it comes to iconic smash characters it’s,
S Tier
Falcon
Fox
-----
A Tier
Meta Knight
Bayonetta
Puff
------
Everyone else beyond that,
Puff
Barbazboub because she was hated so much by the smash community, it made her an infamous icon,
Shine stalls- and of course he has shine ye we know
But that’s not all, he also has A GUN
Just say ZeRo. It's ok, we can handle it.
Light is the goat again
Let's do a brawl newcomer.
History of diddy Kong in competitivel?
It’s gonna be difficult without mentioning Zero 😅
@@olivierjacquot5084 Tru but no one has ever done his competitive history
@@olivierjacquot5084 "Character analysis on Hard mode"
Brawl: great 4:best non dlc character ultimate: decent
I was waiting for this
64: Very good character but why would you pick him over Pikachu, Kirby, or Captain Falcon?
Melee: Technically the best character but some argue Puff is better and human error severally hurts the character. Still top 2 in the game tho
Brawl: Basically only Japan has good Foxes so you're better off maining Meta Knight or IC's
4: Top 10 in the game, potentially top 5
Ultimate: Started off great but slowly dropped a little. A very good character but you're probably better off learning Wolf or the new buffed Falco. Fox is still a good character tho
My only problem with Fox in Smash Ultimate is that he falls like a Thwomp. But I guess that's what makes him a fast and swift character.
He is speed
@@guidomista3570 At least he isn't Sonic.
Fox up smash is OP
Didnt False Swipe Gaming do this exact video like 2 years ago?
You know that False swipe gaming has already done this before
Me: Hey i think i saw this video before
How good was fox actually
Ohhh yeah
Wait. Ness was high tier at this game once?
Its more agreed that yoshi has surpassed fox, but not puff yet
You only care about money stretching it out this much smh you could've had it just be Fiyaaaa
Competive history of marth plz
Falcon is pretty famous
Fox was never bad
History Of Yoshi In Smash Competitive?
Fox is busted in Melee
Do Sheik next.
Plz do Kirby next
Fox in melee was OP
Love to see history of yoshi
Do the compititve history of Luigi in super smash bros