Camshaft Wear, the Pentastar Tick, metal in filter, plus a musical bonus! Ram Promaster
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- Hi Kiddies! Remember, address the Pentastar tick and the Oil Cooler seal leak, and the damn motors are half a million mile bulletproof gems! That's not a guarantee, but it's not based on nothing either.
Nothing more satisfying than biker bar music and some hot, oily, front cover off pentastar poor n'. Good ol' 085.
Ha!
Changed all the rockers on a 3.6 in a minivan without removing the cams.
Loosened one cam at a time.
Vans still quiet and running 2 years
Impressive. I salute you!
I was cringing the second you panned over to that camshaft. Holy moly, Kip! More glitter than a Ke$ha concert.
That's a top quality metaphor and I will be stealing it!
Nice music!
Thanks! I plan to get back into music someday.
Enjoyed the video and music!
Second owner of the Promaster van.
Will be planning a trip to you at 160k Km (100k miles) for you to replace these parts.
Only at 50k km (30k miles) now but will be adding higher miles going forward.
Promaster camper from Nova Scotia.
Thanks. Looking forward to it when the time comes.
I have a 2019 with just over 10000, I plan on upgrading the the oil cooler should I update the rockers at the same time?
Case hardness on that is likely less than 25 thousands of an inch.
The cams aren't the problem. It's the roller on the rocker that wears, seizes, and then galls the cam. If the rocker is good, the cam will NEVER wear out. See my channel for a teardown of a 500,000 mile engine.
@@promastersonly1419 the point is is doesn’t handle any wear before you are through the case depth.
@@doomman700 Agreed.
So that’s you on bass?😯
Yup. And vocals. Not really much of a singer, as you'll gather.
Can you do the rockers with the engine in the truck?
Sure. Zero need for engine out to do the rockers.
Sooo…. You say if we address the problem before it becomes a problem it won’t be a problem.
One problem my dear man. How do we do the addressing as it were?
Listen for ticks? Check for ticks? Spray for ticks?
Just keep the baby slathered in fresh Pennzoil? I must know. I just must.
Oh yeah. And music is dope.
Nothing to do, other than pray to Ba’al and sacrifice a goat. The engine will develop the tick or it wont, all you can do is change the oil like normal. If it starts ticking, keep driving. Once it develops a misfire, then you need to do something. But until then, get your money’s worth.
Can you video an engine that has the tick, so know what it sounds like?
@@dennislittlefield Already have. th-cam.com/video/ptwjSqa7fiA/w-d-xo.html
@@promastersonly1419 will do.
Is this do able if your decent with wrenching cars?s. Mine is under warranty will this fall under the engine/motor
Definitely a warranty issue. It’s doable by any mechanic, but it’s not for the faint of heart. Type “motorcity mechanic pentastar rocker” into youtube to see it done before you attempt.
Do newer Promasters already have the improved rockers (model ending in AH)?
The AH rockers are a late 2019 thing best I can tell. So for 20's it's probably a crapshoot. But by 21 all the vans would have the AH parts.
My tick is starting, should a local mechanic be able to diagnose? If there is a camshaft noise should we focus on the rollers or are there other parts needed if the cam is still good? Thanks Kip! I am a fan
Easiest way is to cut open a well used oil filter. If you find metal, you pretty conclusively have the tick. If you dont find any, but still have a ticking sound, it's likely a lifter and not a rocker, and I feel that's safe to ignore mostly. Tick usually comes on around 110k miles.
Appreciate your reply! Unfortunately, we just did service and didn’t check the filter. We drive very little every year. The van has about 130,000 miles now. We have decided to repair whatever breaks since we have put so much time into converting it into a camper van.
@@MrOlaboss The thing to know is that the tick is a long term issue. Noise aside, you've probably got 20k miles between the time when it first starts misfiring and when it's undriveable because it's misfiring. So you can wait till it's convenient to address it. If you are looking to "bulletproof" the engine, I'd recommend replacing all the rockers but not the lifters, and while you are there go ahead and upgrade to the Dorman 926-959 aluminum oil cooler. It makes sense to do both at the same time. With those two issues upgraded, you'll pretty much never have to worry about the basic engine except for oil changes every 5-10k, trans fluid and filter every 50k, and plugs every 100k.
@@promastersonly1419 what if you have the 24pcs kit already. Wouldn’t it make sense to just change both lifter and rocker ?
@@Mobz77 The lifters are testable; just squeeze them and if they are springy replace them. Lifters can fail/wear out but when they do you get the ticking sound but no other issue. My feeling is it's fine to keep using them if they test good. We charge $11 each and you have 24 of them, so it's not a fortune but it is a savings.
awesome visuals. so would you do the one cam or all? also 1 rocker or all? you are the best!
I like to do all 24 rockers at once, but I see the case for only doing them on one bank. The cams are either gouged or they are not, and if not there is no need to replace them. There's 24 lifters too which we inspect, but so far have never needed to replace one.
What year was the vehicle you did the replacement on?
@@05fordvan hard to keep vans straight, but I think that cam came out of a 2016.
What years did they fix the problem?
Most 2020-up vans should have got the revised rocker arms.
With a 2023 Promaster should one upgrade and use AMSOIl/
I have a 2019 with just over 10000, I plan on upgrading the the oil cooler should I update the rockers at the same time?
I have a 2019 with just over 10000, I plan on upgrading the the oil cooler should I update the rockers at the same time?
The rocker arms are a drastically bigger job than the oil cooler seals, though they share having to remove the upper intake. At only 10k, you are cheating yourself out of pretty much 100,000 miles before you can expect the rockers to go bad, if they go bad - not all do. So I would definitley wait on the rockers.
Oops I left out a 0 my promaster is at 100000 but it doesn’t have a pronounced tick
@@michaelkoppenhoefer5910 Ah. I think the advice still stands, but I can give you a tip. Next oil change, cut open your old oil filter. A very small amount of glitter is normal, but if your rockers are bad it will be obvious by the amount of metal in the pleats.