#1 Full Time Towing Fifth Wheel Only 34ft !! 2021 Montana 294RL 295RL Keystone RV Review
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- 2021 Keystone Montana High Country 294RL Fifth Wheel RV
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Come on Montana!!! Pocket doors, repeat, pocket doors, move what you have to, go pocket doors!!! Thank you! Butttttttttt I love love love the fridge and this unit!
MOST of their bathrooms do use them. They got away from that pivot door as well. This a-typical upper deck is one of the few not currently using a pocket door.
I tend to agree with you btw
I would live in that rig....the light fixture over the island, the ceiling fan , the kitchen table chairs , the color of the interior , the bathroom, & the window in the bedroom!! It’s beautiful!The only thing is I need a giant tv..(I was near sighted but thanks to old age I’m slowly going far sighted so it’s equaling itself out so with a giant screen I don’t have to wear my glasses...the only good thing about getting older !) Thankyou Josh , I love your videos & appreciate your hard work! You definitely have my business when I buy!
I stare at computers and cameras all day, so my vision just keeps getting more and more near sighted lol
Josh I know you filmed this one for me Haha, since today we put our order in. Love the presentation to my look-alike very near future RV, made me feel like I already have it. So much information you did it again thanks so much for all your hard work. Btw I like the shoe better holding pantry door then the rug. 😊
LOL -- you HAVE been watching if you know about the show vs rug LOL
Question on solar versus generator.
If you're the type of camper and primarily likes to go to RV parks and have the hookups. Only times with no shore power is maybe when you're pulled off and napping or you end up having one night without an RV park to go into.. would it be best to have solar or is the generator better option?
Nice bathroom. Yeah, I'll take a slightly smaller shower to accommodate a washer/dryer and drawers! 😻
TY for the feedback!
Great tour Josh. Still waiting for the Montana HC 281CK. They have them here in North Florida. Thanks have a great Christmas and New Year
We still have about 400+ units on order. I'm thankful for what we have received and excited to see them continue to roll in
2:26 I love those light fixtures too‼️👍🏽👍🏽
Montana does "Class" like no other
What a beautiful 5th wheel!
I think so too!
Spent a lot of time researching/watching reviews and landed on the 295RL 2023 - thanks Josh !
Congrats Cyndi! Great pick :)
If my videos were helpful, then would you mind dropping me a quick review at g.page/r/CdPcitNVx2nDEAg/review in return for the effort?
@@JoshtheRVNerd done!
The kitchen👍👍
In the dresser space in the bedroom when you mentioned about the desk it be cool to have the top of that dresser pick up like the coffee table style for your house that pull toward you do use for snacks and things it would double great in that situation for a desk where you could sit on the bed end and work comfortably
Oh that would be awesome!!
This one is in the sweet spot, towable but roomy! Love it
Exactly!!
Josh, Watched many of our videos. Started with the Cougar 316, then Montana 330, then Montana HC 294RL and many many many other videos you produced. Excellent work and information. I may be checking you out in the upcoming few weeks or months. Might have to make the trip across the country to see you if we can work a deal on one of them. Im working on getting my Ford truck ordered soon. I think f350. Do you like the Anderson hitch or do you recommend something else? thanks in advance. Bruce
Andersen's FW hitch is great. Like anything it has its +/- points, but I feel the +'s vastly outweigh the minor potential -'s
This is awesome. I really like the bedroom windshield/dresser/closet design.
It hit me as an odd set of features at first, but when I started to see how they added that closet space in the bathroom it made sense.
@@JoshtheRVNerd that huge window really brightens up the room. I'm a huge fan of sunlight. Thanks for sharing it with us!
@@brianm1916 Makes it feel a lot larger up there too!
Do you know how to turn on the heater in the bedroom?
I love this 5th wheel. Always been a big fan of Montana anyway. Beautiful.
Can't go wrong with the #1 for 18 years! :)
Thanks for the great videos. I noticed some RVs are using Thomas Payne furniture while others have went to Allure brand. Are there any significant differences between the two?
Nothing significant. RV Builders are sourcing a lot of alternative suppliers right now due to extreme common parts shortages
REALLY LOVE THIS ONE !
A woman must have designed this one. 😝 lol
lol
Nice one Josh!!
Thanks!
I loved David the Gnome!
Man I was afraid I lost people on that one
The ending to that show about broke me as a kid though man lol
Gee thanks...now you just made our choice between a 5th wheel and Class A that much harder. Great video as always.
lol sorry? I guess? :)
Thanks for watching. Appreciate it greatly :)
Fantastic tires !!!!!!
They are!
Josh I love your videos you do an often job. I have one question. I have a 2017 cougar 327 res it is a great camper. My question is why don’t they put a ceiling fan in the cougars. That is all I am missing in mine. In a few years I want to get a Montana. You can pull this with a three quarter ton correct? Mine is gas.
Just one of "class defining" things. It's not a super common feature in that class/price point (not impossible to find of course). They've focused the budget limited to their target elsewhere (like the rain sensoring vent fan)
Always see Montana’s in RV parks, always. So there has to be something to it
We joke there's 3 guarantees in life:
Death
Taxes
& a Montana in an RV Park
Can a 2500 tow this model
Very nice
Years ago I lived in a 32ft, believe it was a Montana. The opposing slides really open the space. This looks to be just about what I'm looking for. Nice that with slides in, it's still kinda a functional kitchen. I need to research the solar setup to see how it compares to the victron I see a lot of people using. If I wasn't on the left coast I'd come check this rig out.
So you know when you're ready -- montana has no west-coast production. EVERY Montana comes from Northern Indiana. Shipping is not standardized in the RV industry, so a western dealer may be paying around $4,000 to get the RV to their dealership where we pay nearly nothing since we're local.
Even if we ship it out aftermarket shipping is usually a little less vs. factory shipping
And if you choose to collect the RV yourself -- that's where you really save
I wanted this, but my truck couldn’t support the weight. My favorite by far!!!!!! The bedslide is NOT available in smaller 5th wheels. Perfect for a couple.
Bed slides are great, but yeah... they're heavy too
Josh, Your vlogs are always informative and entertaining. You missed a point on this episode. While you were explaining that the 294/295 RL had blue buttons for the control panel, you didn't tell us if the InCommand system was available on the 2021 Montana 294/295 as an option even. Must I stick to the Cougars to get InCommand?
iN*Command is not available in any montana outside of a "Full Monty" with legacy
What would you need to tow it? Would you need a cdl license? Loved the video.
Unless you have something with your state or locally regarding licensing you should not require special endorsements.
A properly equipped 3/4 ton or most any one ton should handle these pretty nicely!
Question - could you get a queen bed - take out the drawers and use the desk with a rolling chair?
Queen bed is standard so that's no problem
Removing drawers is easy
Beyond that you have to remember there's the step-up right in the front where all the hitching structure is located so there might not be enough room to roll a chair around
Really like this size. 👍 😎🇺🇸
They also have one even a bit smaller!
m.th-cam.com/video/jg2sPTGEnGA/w-d-xo.html
I like this one Josh
I believe it is currently either their #1 or #2 most popular High Country, so you're in good company :)
Question on the bathroom, does the shower have a seat, so old people like me can sit if needed? Like the set up and length very much. We be getting ready to retire soon and are looking to travel. Boston camping show will be coming up and we look forward to getting into one. Thanks Josh, as usual your video's are very complete. You and your family have a very Merry Christmas and my family wishes you and your family a very Happy New Year
No real seat in the corner shower unfortunately. Their larger showers have those though
And a merry Christmas to you too :)
15:07 oh yeah... 😅😂🤣😆😝😜🤪 you forgot to forget to tell us 🥲🙂🙃
I keep watching these! And this Montana rear living checks all the boxes.
I think I've watched too many. 😅 But I keep learning the differences in the brands.
Do you carry Avalanche 5th wheels? I like the 295rk. Little different design.
We do not carry Avalanche. It's the sister to these. Though they have a few different layouts (like the one you mentioned) overall they're just too similar to have side-by-side here
@@JoshtheRVNerd Thank you!
this RV is perfect for my next one only think I dislike is that window in front ill like a full closet
We've asked for a full closet option
Not yet available, but we're hopeful for the future!!
lol @ Noggin! I banged my Noggin earlier today in this Fifth Wheel, In the middle(where my Living area is in) and the slide is even out! I was thinking : Not much after that. Seriously though, I liked this unit, and seems like the Upgrades for other R.V.'s are normal for this Montana. I also liked the Round shower. I see that a lot more nowadays. Good job, thanks.
Montana's slogan should be something like "Superior Comes Standard"
@@JoshtheRVNerd Yeah, I saw a lot of "Upgrades" that I hear others use, but this one already had them.
Love all the vents in the floor (I'm chilly), love the extra height in the slide, the kitchen is killer! Love all the pantry space. Glad to see them adding inverted outlets, especially in the kitchen for my Bunn coffee maker :) Really like the split different sized sinks.
The only thing I didn't like was the barn siding look behind the bed. The white cabinets look classy in the bedroom, the barn siding looks out of place. A lot of women don't care for the rugged look, they would prefer something more classy, elegant. I know like any good husband and salesman "should" know............sell the wife and start writing the sales agreement! :)
Love Montana, Love Hayletts......that nerd guy is pretty okay also!!!! LoL
That shiplap could easily be either painted or place something on top of it I think
@@JoshtheRVNerd Good idea Josh! ;)
My 2004 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 diesel can't tow this- too heavy 😰😰😰
Is that a step up in the bed room?
Nope. All flat up there where you walk.
I’ve always had the out of curiosity. All these newer RVs are going carpetless. But could you still get carpet you think? Hate and embarrassed to say it but I’d prefer carpet in all honesty. I just never know if I still could.
Typically no. Think of RV production like a cookie cutter. They punch out the same cookies all the time. Then you decorate with a few frosting/options
Hey Josh !! I know I make these comments all the time but Im making another one!! Ya'll rock and thank you to you and Mike S. (I don't want to drop his full last name) tell him thank so much for sending that!! ♥️
Never get tired of hearing it. Thx so much! I'll let Mike know
Hey Josh. I don’t see that you currently have this unit in stock. Any idea when one might show up? Any way great video!
Apologies no. Factory backlogs have become rather extreme which has left us unable to predict with any level of certainty when things might be rolling in next.
Every day here is just a case of "hurry up and wait" hoping to see something rolling in
@@JoshtheRVNerd thank you for the response!
Is it available with a dinette instead of table and chairs?
Yes! High Country models allow for both dining setups
12:11 asymmetrical bathroom sink/counter 🆚 a symmetrical kitchen stove/counter 🤔🧐🥸
Did they do well you think?
Symmetry always looks good to me but in a small bathroom I'm not sure it would be the most effective way to go
@@JoshtheRVNerd // I totally get why in the bathroom, & agree; it’s just an interesting observation on my part. 🙂🙃
Montana and Cougar are the best in my non professional opinion. nice looking.
You have good taste man!
Man I love so much about this RV. But those cable slides on such a big slides rule me out. I had so many problems with my cable powered slides. But they have done so much good on this rv. It's one of the few that rival the Alliance 310rl for my needs. Also as a small change I would much rather have the LCI steps over the morydes. That top step being extra wide is a game changer over the step above. Still a fantastic unit that many people will love.
Step aboves have actually increased their top step by about 25% this year to fill that little cap where you could drop your keys previous, but each has their neat "quirks!"
Boogie!!!!
Did you know a national park will only allow a 34 ft. RV with out a reservation anything over you have to call a head.
I bought this one. One thing to mention is. I got the slide out covers put on but the one slide with the recliners was told could not put a cover over just that one pull out.. soo
I'm not quite following you here but *all* slides on this are slide awning capable. It's even a factory option
@@JoshtheRVNerd hmm the place just reimburse me 1700 bucks telling me that the one pull out cannot have a awning for that one pull out as they tried to put it on. What ever if that was a lie than I’m getting used to them..
@@jasonrobinson9992 perhaps they didn’t have the right hardware or something..
Again you can get slide awnings on it straight from keystone so I know it *can* be done
Nice, I will take it.
Check's in the mail, right? :)
@@JoshtheRVNerd Lol, you are right, lol, I wish because that is a very nice Montana.
Why isn't this floorplan on Keystone's website for the full Montana? It only appears for the high country, seemingly.
High Country and "Full Monty" do not share floor plans. Each sub-series has a specific set of layouts featured. So this is only a High Country
@@JoshtheRVNerd you know, it all makes sense. The video title is "Montana 294RL..." and the front plate of the RV says "MONTANA" but sure enough, in the first line of the description- "Montana High Country." Thanks!
looking for a 34 ft -- keystone montana hi / country 295 RL with a rear Kitchen -?-
Hi Floyd. I’m hoping you can help me clarify here. 295 model you have requested is specifically a rear living room not a rear kitchen. Would you be able to clarify? Or perhaps give our team a call and we can assist you in locating a model that fits your needs and wants
Dose Montana have a camper that a 6 foot 7 inch person can take a clean body shower without a cramp or crick.
Yes actually m.th-cam.com/video/SyjzliniA2Q/w-d-xo.html
Is the Montana a better 5th wheel than the Alpine?
They're roughly parallel and similar in most major ways, though Montana has maintained a *vastly* higher level of popularity
Can an F-150 safely pull a fully loaded Montana 295RL?
I was told by the dealer Im purchasing from the Ford F-150 can handle this trailer other wise
I plan on a good used 2500 pickup…what would you recommend otherwise?
There's no way I would ever personally haul any montana model with an F150 nor would I ever mention that to a customer. Every aspect of this RV is likely beyond what a half-ton should be handling
I would highly recommend finding a new dealer staffed by people who know their way around towing and payload capacities. A 3/4 ton may be a good fit but still needs to have the right specs in certain areas for something the size of a 295RL.
We'd love the opportunity to work with you when you're ready & are happy to provide you the proper towing advisory you deserve along the way. If we don't happen to have a location near you, then at least find someone who isn't willing to sacrifice your safety to make a sale.
@@JoshtheRVNerd Thanks for the info..
I just saw your video about the 1/2 ton problems hauling 5th wheel trailers…
The finance guy mentioned the F150 but did add you could do it but not on a regular basis or for a long distance…Id love to work with you as well but unfortunately I’m down here on the Missouri/ Arkansas state line in Branson…
I do have 1 more question: Would a 2500 do the trick for the Montana 295RL and what specs that you mentioned would be right for the job?
Thanks so much👍
@@petergeorgemusic The *proper* 2500 may handle it it. Again.. I would never consider that RV with any half-ton. Ever. Under any circumstance.
So why did the weight go up last year it was 11,000lbs
I'm not 100% sure. I suspect they've done some under-the-skin bulking up in areas. Montana/Cougar both have put on some weight this year on some models.
Just wondering why they put the vents in the floor still , I love the Montana but I really dislike floor vents , is there a reason?
It's a *significantly* more effective heating system. When you get rid of floor vents you lose a *lot* of heating airflow. Montana is a true cold camp tested RV so they use the heating system best equipped to accomplish that goal.
I actually have a video on this very subject coming out later today at th-cam.com/video/saU96ot_sUU/w-d-xo.html
After 4pm eastern it should be ready for viewing!
I have read where floor vents have 37% better air flow than typical furniture/cabinet outlets. When I'm cold.....I'll take that 37% more air and smile! Little vent filters available on Amazon to help keep dirt out of them
@@richardkoch8752 Spot on sir!
@@JoshtheRVNerd Will look for your new video; hate to distract from a Keystone for a Jayco video, but I was just watching your marathon discussion with the Jayco director yesterday, where you also had a long conversation on the topic. (Long, but lots of interesting takes. th-cam.com/video/5hfb_QKJvv0/w-d-xo.html )
@@JoshtheRVNerd thank you , I kinda figured that Montana had a good reason , my wife and I are going to buy a Montana once I retire 😊
I want one
Well... we have one ;)
Give back the sink covers! This could be the one.
Hey Santa!
Can I change my wish list or is it too late? Oh, and if it’s not too late, don’t forget the truck to go with it.
LOL -- let the big guy up north know :)
No price available?
Sorry Janet -- I'm working on it. I'm backlogged on recording/editing/posting content while keeping our site up to date. Getting everything done as quickly as I can. Sometimes I don't have pricing available on a new arrival as soon as it lands.
As I recall under current pricing these usually run in the very low 50's -- and remember we don't do hidden dealer fees. I'm sure someone would advertise it for 49,999 but then you need to buckle up for a ride thru the fees office and financing "forced add ons" train lol
What about a non-high country 295RL? Isn't a High Country a step down from a full Montana???
Each “division” of Montana has its own floor plans. It’s not like a car mfg where they have multiple Trims on the same layout with these. A high country is just a high country
“Full Monty” does everything a high country does and then some. It has a fairly similar layout see here m.th-cam.com/video/-y8YHcNMTOk/w-d-xo.html&pp=sAQA
Ironically the full Monty does have a trim package Called legacy you can apply to their layouts as seen here m.th-cam.com/video/VpI0tJkDwmk/w-d-xo.html&pp=sAQA
What's the chance of being able to pull this beautiful RV with a 20`6 F250 6.7 diesel, my calculation is its a bit heavy.
It's close enough we really need a little extra info to verify. "Maybe / Maybe Not" is the best I can say with a few key specs. Our team at 800-256-5196 is always happy to assist in return for a fair shake at working with you!
It has the towing capacity but depending on your package your cargo capacity might not be enough. Strang thing is my Cougar 368MBI is heavier dry but lighter on the pin.
@@jeroldkiekhafer7141 This has a larger slide dead on the nose -- that's why it picks up some extra hitch weight vs. a common bed-only slide
That's true and I think the drop frame has something to do with it too.
@@jeroldkiekhafer7141 definitely
Hey Josh. Check out crazy 5 th wheel river ranch 390 R L. 1 floor 5th wheel it wild. Jayco needs to make something similar would be good
I don't know why everyone seems to have forgotten Keystone already did that back in like 2007. It was called the Fuzion Vizion. There's a few of them floating around out there if you run a quick google search. There was also a one-off prototype concept unit called a Down Under produced once. The end result was not a great deal of success.
Common feedback generally indicated most buyers were not interested in a very heavy fifth wheel that only provided a trailer trailer's interior clearance. The belly storage is great, but was seen as impractical due to its sheer quantity. Much of it went unused.
Keystone owns the patents to that kind of concept. I'm pretty sure Palomino is going to have to pay them royalties for the production. But I commend any MFG for trying to push the envelop and take the market in new directions.
Like Montana's Super Solar package. It's had a slow start, but it's gotten people thinking about new and exciting things we just never saw from the factory-level before.
I didn't know i thought it was interesting first time i saw 1
@@markgarvey5859 it's a very neat concept, but sort of like a truck camper I think -- has a niche purpose in the marketplace.
Don't get me wrong -- I hope to see weird and wild concepts take hold out there. We often have people tell us how they cannot fill the storage in things those montanas with that rear sliding tray. There's a balance there I think
I hear ya i just thought it was interesting an it does probably way a lot. You know I all jayco Montana guy thats y I always on your channel keep those videos comming my man your the best
Is this unit in stock at this time?
I can see right now we do have one on hand at bit.ly/2ORUq3M
But what I cannot see from my seat here is if anything is pending on it. I would recommend giving our team a quick ring at 800-256-5196 to verify availability
Thank you.
RV Nerd Herd🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Cool
What do you like on this one?
@@JoshtheRVNerd can you get a generator on it
@@simplyblessedrvlife9067 Gen Prep is an available option for ALL Montana fifth wheels. It is almost never included standard from a dealer's stock however. It's usually something you'll need to request on a personal build
2:00 #WIN #Place & #show 🥇🥈🥉
There's plenty of good stuff out there... but we seem to know how to pick them! :)
Now if they only made it with AZDEL sidewalls.
I like azdel as much as the next guy, but I'm not sure there'd be a significant benefit here. You'd save a little weight, but not enough to change the tow vehicle
Montana's structural integrity is pretty legendary already. Azdel or not... you need to manage those seals.
The little bit of sound dampening from azdel would probably be nice though!
Why can't Montana make a model with a conner bunk.
Did you mean corner bunk? That's something that fits nicely within Cougar's wheel house for sure. Montana puts their sights on a different segment in the market.
You can always reach out to them to pass along the idea of course.
$62,567 MSRP. 40% dealer discount = $37,540.20. 30% dealer discount = $43,796.90. 20% dealer discount = $50,053.60.
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Suddenly a LOT of stuff in my videos makes sense lol
@@JoshtheRVNerd // 🎶 th-cam.com/video/F4IZBJrNXrY/w-d-xo.html 🎬🎥🎞📽🍿 #StopMakingSense