great stuff I identified a lot with you. I am an ENFP also. I think tho, that many of the struggles I listened to you saying about ENFP, could be aid of the Te. By trusting the things you have learnt and experienced (Si, which you are doing already), you can be more independent in your decisions, more authentic and leading people easily. Thats something might help you, but you know more about yourself so take it if it helps you. cheers
Q Ward the main reason is that I’ve never met one where i truly had common interests. We can joke and chat about general things, but we don’t tend to have the ability to get closer because there is too much disconnect
You addressed my biggest issue! I am an ENFP and I have a really hard time staying interested in people. When I meet an interesting person I penetrate their soul and get to know the real them, ( I am not interested in their day either) but once I figure them out, I have no desire to reach out to them even though I love them. The few people I do stay interested in are bad for me because they are either emotionally unavailable or mentally unstable.
dude that last part about only being interested in people who are bad for you due to their emotional + mental instability speaks to my experience exactly 💯
Maybe we're most attracted to chaos because we're always searching for something new and different - at least in my experience. So we end up with people who are more ... Unstable
yo enfp here! the part where she's like "what can i gain from this situation" and "the thought of wasting my time not learning or gaining from this situation makes me feel physically ill" damn that feels familiar..
Yes, absolutely yes. I don't feel gross, but my head doesn't feel right, like it's a too hot humid summerday, when your head feels like that. Can't say it in english, sorry!
I'm an ENFP and I totally agree with you. I find I have so many books on "How to...." Even my TH-cam searches are on practical matters and self-improvement. I love to lecture my friends on my latest discoveries and they roll their eyes because I am always changing and trying new things. But to my credit, I force myself to follow through with most plans even if it takes me a long time.
That's true. For INFJs they often say "the most extraverted of the introverts". Well, I'm INFJ and extremly introverted. So... maybe it's just individual. Every other introverted I know is more extraverted than me. Maybe they just want to seem super balanced. :D
@@t.a.yeah. It is possible enfj is the most extroverted of hte introverted (on average), but if phrases like that only work if they're said about 1 type. It's like people would say 'It's the rarest type of all' about 5 different types.
I'm loving the friendly vibe of this channel. And omg, I'm an ENFP and completely relate to "once someone has given you all they can give, you become less interested"
Thank you ... I am starting to get really confused by watching these youtube videos and doubting my type. The ENFP gets shown as an illogical, emotionally unstable, often time non-loyal type - which I am SO not. Nevertheless my functions are those of an ENFP.
Wow, I loved this! You articulated things that I didn't even know were ENFP things. Like the second in command thing: as a kid, I consciously decided to always keep myself in this spot whenever possible. So, in my pack of cousins, A was the leader, but looked at me to see if I gave the nod before deciding something. I enjoy this sort of power much better than actually being the leader. Leaders just don't have as much fun! However if there is no leader, I am not shy to step up. I just want everything to be somewhat organized and moving along. I'd rather it wasn't me sorting it out, but I'd rather do it than let everyone flop around uselessly. My best friend is an istj, and we admire each other's strengths and make an excellent team together.
Michelle- as an ENFP I can totally relate. I've learned over the years is to start out with the benefits of our suggestions before suggesting solutions. I still fall into the "b" trap at times, when my intentions are merely trying to add value to the group. But many people take things very personally, and they don't like change. We are changemakers, and I'm glad you're talking about how we can play constructive roles on teams.
As an ENFP, I can’t stand anything that is not leading to my goals or objectives. If my goal is to have a fun night meeting new people at a social event, then that’s what my goal is. If my goal is to get a task done for work, then I hate anything that keeps me from that.
“I feel physically ill that I wasted my time...” so TRUE. I hate senseless input. Unfortunately I also love stories. Cue frustration as I binge series on Netflix etc. I relate to so much of this video...
ENFP married to an ENTP and what you say about Ti is true. I come to him when I need reliable analysis. I have had the issue with losing interests in people too. But, I never forget them. I will sometimes try to find them years later just to see how they’re doing. I am satisfied when I see they’re doing well. My best friends are the long distance ones who don’t need to be in constant contact. When new things happen in their lives, I am very interested in finding out the details. I want to learn from people’s successes and failures. This, plus all the information I collect goes into a huge gumbo of knowledge that I pull from when I use te. Leadership can be problematic for an ENFP. We are not linear, but lateral thinkers, always wanting to explore possibilities. Progress is correlated with a variety of experiences rather than scaling or merging or acquiring. We can be very creative problem solvers and people oriented, but we don’t like to have conflict with people. Unless we are championing something we believe in, then that is okay 😂
My favorite type to do anything with is a mature ESFP. Our Te sparks a constant magical flow of ideation. I can organize everything and create a game plan and the ESFP goes out and does it and has the social charm to get everyone on board. Their Se stimulates my Si and my Ne strengthens their Ni. I also am a magnet for difficult personality types - they are my favorite people and they usually don't mind that I'm annoying.
I think we ENFP's are logical in the sense that we do what works for us. It's just that others don't understand our process, as it outwardly doesn't appear linear. Asking an Enfp to follow your own logic, and completely disregard their own complex pattern recognition, is highly illogical. We might try it your way for a time, but we'll ultimately come back to what works best for us. If you only offer "conventional" advice to an unconventional person - YOU are not being logical.
I really relate to when you said you prefer to see that something works rather than have someone explain to you that it works. It can get annoying if someone feels like they need to go into a lot of detail when I feel like it's way more practical to keep things moving
I agree with everything you said! Especially the hatred for the tedium of explaining things to people when you are in leadership or doing a project. I also synch immediately with ENTJs and ESTJs at work. I think they see us a smart and capable, but unreliable. And EN TJ or an ES TJ has the power to stay the course, and most of the ones I know pursue a very linear path.
00:20 How ENFPs use their extroverted thinking (Te) 00:40 ENFP vs INTP 01:45 Extroverted thinkers (Te) in the third slot 03:16 ENFP vs extroverted thinkers (Te) in the first slot 05:11 Socionics: ENFP & ESTJ 06:43 Socionics: ENFP & ENTJ 09:13 ENFPs: extracting value out of things 12:41 How ENFPs relate with people 15:41 ENFPs and decision-making 17:17 ENFPs and leadership 18:21 Decision-making regarding introverted thinking stuff 19:28 In conclusion
INTJ here :) I always love to share ideas and almost too many ideas that people can’t keep up with me LOL. it’s crazy that I say everything in perfect logic which leaves them in shock :) You see, I don’t have much close friends so I haven’t experience socializing with an ENFP (soulmate for a INTJ). Right now I just wanna to have an ENFP listen to me all day long and share nerdy ideas. I was always wondering is it perhaps because of my half Asian Gene which makes me nerdy or my personality (⁎⁍̴̛ᴗ⁍̴̛⁎)
INTJs are everything but boring to me! I love you guys because you guys never bore me. My bestie is an INTJ and she never ceases to amaze me. She is the ying to my yang. I always feels like we are learning from each other, which is both of our favorite thing to do. I also love solving mysteries…and you guys are the biggest one out there. My favorite thing about to reveal the layer underneath the surface, and you guys have more layers than middle earth. Sorry, for the rant. I just had to tell you how great you INTJs are. ❤
I love this video so much! Thank you, thank you, thank you 😍 for explaining exactly how I think and what I feel! I'm so tired of being portrayed as cry-baby with the attention span of a goldfish when I'm so much more than that! I admire logic, I'm practical, I'm the best co-pilot you'll ever have, and I'm a deep thinker with a thirst for knowledge. Most importantly I LOVE YOU ALL 🤗 Kisses from your enfp 🥰
@@PsychologyandChillwMichi true but having the f will make you illogical at times. I feel you guys are willing to listen to logic but care too much about what others think. Im an ISTP btw so im very insensitive a lot
@@ISIIN15 John Gaskill I would have to challenge you a bit on the "F" aspect of ENFPs. We are Introverted Feelers so we primarily make decisions based on our own values, what feels right internally. We're not afraid to go against the status quo if championing a cause we deem worthy. Now Extroverted Feelers, such as ENFJs will use make decisions based on what feels right externally, what keeps harmony. So if an ENFP is hurt, it's because a personal value was violated. Where as an ENFJ would be hurt if you violate a societal norm. I hope that that makes sense.
It's so interesting to watch this, because for me I relate so much to losing interest in friends that I already know everything about, and especially if those people are the quiet and the non-adventurous type because I feel more excited with friends that are outgoing, even if they're introverts, I feel like with them I can explore more, but closed minded and less adventurous types I cannot seems to hold the interest after I get to know everything about them. It's really interesting to hear this! Also, this relate to work as well, I am so afraid of committing to a job because I feel trapped, weirdly enough I like the excitement of looking for jobs because it makes me experience the idea of working in this or that place or in this or that position. Therefore committing to one job makes me quite nervous, but I personally think I need to keep this under control as I know realistically speaking I need to settle on something (TMI: I am a master student lol) and thus these days I am trying to find jobs that have various tasks in order to keep me entertained.
You spoke my mind! That te always in the background assessing if I wasted my time or not. I have to kind of call Fi in and be like “I’m allowed to watch stuff just because I like it. Not everything has to be a tool!” (I have pretty developed Te)
I thought I was an “IN” type for years - because I tested as one, and never even considered checking out Extroverted types because I knew I must be an introvert. However, after all these years, it all makes sense now. Thank you so much.
Spot on! Especially the part about not wanting to be the leader but wanting to be second in command. I like being at the top because I want to know all the information at all times. I just don’t want to be in charge.
Michelle what a pleasant surprise. I am so happy you found me. And I you. Please don’t completely judge a book by the store you found him in. Take some time to read some pages a few chapters in.
Some advice I would give to an ENFP on how not to ghost your friends as much. Don't get too focused on looking at them as a productive mechanism for learning and only seek what's new from them. But rather, enjoy just spending time with your friends and do something fun together and let life offer new experiences that you can connect with together. Also, seek to help them whenever you can and be emotionally supportive. -INFP
OMG the leadership thing is so accurate!!!!!!! I don't want to lead a group but i want my ideas to be listen! so that's more intersting for me to have the second lead rôle! i think that's a waste of time and energy to lead people, if I am the second lead, I can more freely work on my project and talk about it correctly later and help the leader for its task as well. that's a perfect place to be for me!
Can totally relate to all the job stuff with telling people better ways to do things. I had a year in school solely focused on extra-curriculars and non-academic projects. I would often take charge and try and make a group more productive, as usually, everyone was a bit of a hot mess. And despite the fact that I wasnt even rude, I just knew how to assert myself, people collectively decided I was mean, bossy and loud. I felt frustrated that my actual work and ability was not acknowledged, while my own personality was being shit on.....
I'm a bit confused about when you mentioned the "what can I gain from this conversation" mindset is a Te thing because other Te users dont really have this bad enfp habit (which I've heard about many times actually) of getting close to someone, forgetting them and finding others and then going back to that person. As an infp I also really crave those conversations. I love to find out about new people and pick apart their mind and secrets and stories but I cant do it much cos I dont know who is worth the effort and I dont have the energy to keep talking to people till I find an interesting one. But I dont usually lose that connection, I try to maintain it (but I'm also bad at staying in touch) and I've never thought there was a Te reason to this cos I dont approach with the intention of gaining life lessons but more to hear something interesting that I can reflect on later about how it made me feel
Probably because it is our 'child' function as well as mixed with our dom ne might make it more sporadic/prevalent Then someone without those sm specific placements/stacking. Like i don't think she was suggesting it's an overall te trait but rather a te trait through the workings/lense of an ENFP yk. So it may not show up the sm for you especially with it being your least dominant in your top stacking.
I did a make up influencer video binge a few months ago too!!! I like knowing who’s on top and some of the slang. Then I blocked them from ever showing up in my feed again.
On doing something you did not get anything from. It’s interesting that Te/Fi has such a difficulty with the notion that sometimes you don’t get anything out of something and cannot treat that as a data point to develop a certain axiom: sometimes your efforts will not benefit yourself in any way you can understand. That leaves three possibilities to be open to: 1. It has been beneficial but you are not aware how. 2. It has been beneficial to someone else and you just selflessly gave to them. 3. It is of no benefit to anyone. That latter point is the one to try to avoid, but I think still useful since you can examine where you went wrong and try to avoid it again.
As an ISTJ, I related a lot to this, specifically the latter half. I enjoy meeting new people and learning about/from them. And I think about them even long after we’ve stopped communicating. I guess it’s just a Te/Fi thing.
We have so much more in common than a lot of people think and if you believe in the four sides of the mind, we have eachothers shadow, so you would have ENFP shadow so would like that meeting people more than an outsider might expect
That part about being desperate regarding finding use for new information is so true. Accumulating insane ammounts of seemingly useless information just in case you find yourself in a situation where knowing that one thing may mean you can strengthen a bond and establish a connection with someone somewhere sometime
Michelle! whatupgirl. I heavily relate to about 90% of what you articulated in this vid...and I'm an INFP. YES regarding useless info intake, even the physical sickness caused by it. It's so hard to not beat yourself up after "wasting time" that way...but I think the bullet journaling is a great way to check in and intentionally try to align yourself with activities that contribute to giving yourself The Best Chance. Some people's distractions/addictions are LOUD and some are (quiet). I default to the quiet mode, where people don't really see what my shortcomings are in that sense...I wonder if this added bit of secrecy adds to the self-chastising. It's inspiring and freeing of you to share those parts of yourself.
I cant wait to see a video you do about INFP. We have so much in common with each other!! Its interesting because sometimes its really hard to tell the difference a lot of timessss
Oh wow, I can so relate to this and have never heard it described as an ENFP trait before... "If you do X, Y and Z, it'll be much more efficient!" As an ENFP, I definitely crave novelty and get distracted easily but I do feel like I can be fairly logical and I like solving things like this!! 😅
As an ENFP, I agree with every single thing you said. Practical, yes. I have also done the thing where I listen or watch people in order to learn. I’ve done this my whole life. And I love working with some types that help me be more productive. But I wouldn’t want to hang out either them after work because then they would start to annoy me. And, yes, when I meet new people, I become ultra interested in them and come on strong with the positive vibes. Then after I feel like I have a handle on who they are, I lose interest and move on to some new person to learn from. It’s kind of awkward. 😬 😂 But I’ve learned to manage the initial interest bombing.
Interesting. INFP here and I cannot seem to get along with ESTJs at all. I think maybe because I am not direct which bothers them and they are too direct which bothers me. Oh well!
Also, I had two classmates, at high school... one was INFP, the other ESTJ, and they were best mates. They actually are still, now that high school is over and they took different paths. They were always together and had a lot in common... I remember them as a funny duo. They had the same passions and interests but both learned different perspectives from the other.
S types in general are a problem for N types... AND VICE VERSA. But IMO they (S types) need to meet us (N types) halfway... too often we have to be more grounded, when most of the time, they need to loosen up and DREAM for a change. Lol Ijs
I just let go of an enfp. We couldn't work together. I'm ESFP. Super lovely girl and have many ENFP friends but working together was a disaster! You are super sweet!
InHislove i work with an ESFP. With a healthy distance we work great, but i cant imagine projects or working closer would benefit us. We each are independent of each other and help out the other, which has been really good
Agreed with most of what you said, only differences caused are probably because I’m currently going through a much more outgoing phase but not experiencing much success in getting to know many people much better :’)
Couldn’t have said it better myself. (Preach it!!!!!!) Also, this can be applied to romantic relationships. I’m always thinking about functionality, and how the relationship will move forward in an efficient way. Does it meet bottom lines and end goals? However, with my Fi, it sounds like “I like you... but I don’t think it would be a good idea to date you.” Then people think I’m just being noncommittal:(
Also, my lack of Ti means I have a hard time logically explaining this part of myself to people. I can’t easily tell someone how I can like them and not want to act on it. It takes me so long, and so much nonsense, so much thinking out loud, such an emotional roller coaster! This is why I use other people (especially Ti users) to help me make decisions. They hold me hand and walk me through it.
angela kincy do you also make immediate contingency plans if something even smells slightly sour? Just as a back up to know you have something to lean on?
Yes! I kind of treat it like a game of chess. If this happens, I’ll make this move and so on. I create as many Ne possibilities as I can, and then back them with Te strategies. It’s like a pyramid, there are a lot of bricks at the bottom, but they all support one Fi brick at the top.
idealising people at first and later loose interest while they think we are friends oO Im so happy here and there find some who i still see as being great and I can „keep“ but its rare enfp are different external and internal they dont show how protected the inner sanctuary is and appear too open, too nice and eventually can disappoint orhers
So I actually love being in charge, and somehow or other I usually end up in leadership. I think my coaching/teaching attitude just lends itself to that. I want everyone to reach their potential and I know how to get them there. However, when I'm in leadership, while most love me, there usually are one or two who hate me. :'( I mask my trouble with logic with volumes and volumes of reference points which create kind of like a spiderweb, and I can more or less make a straight line. But it's never mattered much. I did well in math and science because I understood the metaphysics behind them, and I think that well-exercised Ne/Si provides an adequate framework to organize information and to discern between true and false. I will say that my Si is somewhat supercharged from my childhood and I think I've used that to compensate for a lot of things. 😁
Ashley Cnossen thats such a great point about the reference points. Just enough logical structure and data points to string together a steady-ish foundation!
Now, this is the kind of ENFP I would love to have as a friend; the only one I know, I think, is a bit unhealthy. I love practical people because they realize what the point of doing something is and actually acts on it; I think practicality satisfies my Ni because it's a direct route to the end goal and achieving the purpose. The ENTP I'm in a relationship with also has the tendency to throw out a bunch of Ne ideas. She rarely fully commits to one but only executes them to the point where it's proven that it's valid or only shares them for others to execute because, I assume, like you said, she's afraid of failure. - INFJ
I do have the problem of lots of ideas, but i am actually with an INFJ (going on 5 years now) and he helps me with follow through and limiting how much i agree to take on. When i limit those i can be very good at follow through (and enjoy the feeling of the completion)
12.36-12.40 When the adorableness KICKS in!! This little part by the way.. It's all so damn Ne-Si, i just cannot explain "why", Ti-wise, but I can ONLY see an ENFP or ENTP "do this" that way haha!!
I do it all the damn time (enfp). When I find something "bad" it feels like no one word I use can possible describe the feeling it gives me, so I ramble off many (MANY) words hoping the person I'm talking to gets the point
You mean all t types or just IxTP and ExTJ? Imo the entp and intp are warmer than xxTJ because we have ne and fe. ExTJs have charisma but it's often not really genuine interest in the other person, it's usually just some Te goal they're working on and trying to manipulate whoever they're talking to. Of course any type can have real relationships, but xxTJs act cold more often. XxTPs are probably next in line
Think tho ENTP and ENFP especially bored from people.. are alike like it’s stagnant.. I like to watch people’s ideas.. it’s really rare I connect real emotional connection.. think fe is needed to watch that superficial side. Yet the Ti would make us seem so cold.. actually I think the emotional bond comes through the bond of ideas and ENTPs connect to that and the bond deepens if they value them.. ❤️ u guys
Watching this feeling so inferior cuz she seems way in advanced not only in her understanding of herself as an enfp but also in her experiences and her understanding of those experiences, how cognizant she was throughout those experiences. Aren’t we supposed to be absent minded as well?? Is it just me?
Didn't know much about ENFP's, but I'm thinking anyone who has Extroverted-Intuition as one of their top 3 functions is kewl. Because they see possibilities and likely have a curious nature. Thus, they are more interesting people. And, congrats, you got me to "pause-and-pomder" a moment over the idea that: Even though something MAY not be totally logical----it can still be USEFUL. (although if if it *is* logical, its nice to have that. But not always an absolute necessity). Are you and Nathan both in the UK? I'm in the USA (west of the Rockies (mountains). I'm still wrestling with which type am i. I keep "bouncing around" between: Entp. Istp or Intp. Large chunks of all 3 seem to fit. sigh. Glad that LoveWho has videos on both Istp and Intp.
Ok so first of all. Im an enfp, but a lot of the stuff she tells it is not the same to me, like finding a purpose to useless things, I always and I say always find a reason to feel good about wjat i did or do. Also i rlly like to take comand, just the idea of me inspiring a group of people into my own philosphy turns me on instantly, and I always stick with people close to me and never leave behind anyone because it makes me feel like ive lost a part of my future if i do.
I must say, I don't really understand ENFPs. AT ALL. But this thing of practicality... it totally confused me! Where this come from? Is it from Te? As a ISTP, I share this practical and objective way of seeing things SO MUCH, but I always assumed that this came from my Ti, Se strong. What a mess! hahaha I don't know who I am anymore, or the world, or anything! Ghhhh (I knew this would happen the minute I tried to understand you guys. Why do you have to do this?!?! lol)
@@ISIIN15 F vs. T does not equal intelligence capacity or emotional. If anything, your own comment tells us more about you than ENFPs being "over emotional."
It's called Associated Logic, not Syllogism type Linear Logic. We see similarities no one else sees, and we connect parellel structures. If A is similar to B (partially identical) and since X is true for A, is it possible (?) that X is true for B, as well? We contruct webs of parallel possibilities, using Associative Logic. And we don't plod either, we do this at lightening speed. Making and testing and discarding hypothetis, rapidly, and sometimes jump to conclusions that (when correct) borders on genius. It's really hard for other people to follow our train of thought, but its gratifying to see the light bulbs click on, in their minds. I call it 'thinking diagonally', versus the prosaic 'thinking straight'. Its like traveling on a diagonal slide is much faster than climbing down a ladder. And so much more fun.
Lol I still dont understand ENFPs and I dont think I ever will. I was kind of surprised as well when she said she’ll ask ENTPs, ESTPs and INFJs about Ti related questions for accurate answers but didn’t mention Ti doms.
I think you use the world "learn" more than necessory 🤣 it is not all about learning. A lot of time is about feeling good. Feeling deep and emotional with people
Huge mistake I've got to correct "INTj" in socionics is the INTP In the MBTI (there is a reason for this - but let's save some time.. All you need to do to avoid confusion is to check carfuly the functions (Ni-Te) or (Ti-Ne) - if they match in both studies you're good to proceed!) and the relationship between the two (ENFP + INTP ) is "supervision" : basicaly INTPs value ENFPs (Ne) but think they should focus on (Ti) instead of (Fi) Its very anoying (even stressful at times) to spend a lot of time with your "supervisor" and the worst part is that your supervisor never fully realise the tension he produces.. But yeah MBTI's ENFPs and INTJs are a good match with their shared functions Fi-Te (realy good to push eachothers to take actions)
Hey Michelle what is about ENTJ's that majes you feel like you don't want to have a close relationship with them? Does the same thing happen to you with INTJ's?
Why would it be ok with the INFP that they wasted their time watching useless videos, etc? Their Fi is their dominant function, so value is even more important to them.
Well it makes since. I can't speak too much on infp functions, but if they're fi is higher it'd makes since for them to just enjoy that they enjoyed the experience. Fi is only our parent so when Ne comes in to ask "how can I use this" it gets nothing and then Ni Nemesis comes in to say "this isn't helping your future at all, why did you sit inhale this entire series," then we feel bad. But I'm an ENFP and (to be honest) I could be completely wrong because I typed what "felt" like a correct correlation but have no logos to back it up Edit: Typos
John Miller - Thank you for explaining the dynamic going on here between the functions. I’m only familiar with the 4 function stacks, not the expanded version of functions. I don’t even know where I could study that. Is that socionics?
I'm an INFP. We're defining "value" differently. There is little we see as useless, as an INFP, because we operate on the mindset that if it exists, then it has an inherent value. Full stop. Everything is valuable. Understanding why something is valuable and to who, is what makes it valuable--- it doesn't have to be valuable to me, or have immediate applicable UTILITY to be valuable. It can be valuable to someone else. It can be valuable in the future. It can be valuable in ways I don't understand. Our TE is fairly low, so this has two effects: Our sense of time is not very good. And by that I mean, a day can seem like an eternity to me. I am rarely thinking like I am running out of time (usually that is FORCED onto me by someone else rushing me/telling me there's a deadline etc) and I am rarely thinking that I only have X amount of time left in my life. It could also be that I am a young infp though and have this luxury (I'm only 27). So already, we don't think of "wasting" time. If I am living right now, breathing air, and therefore using up time, then I am using time. There's no waste, happening here :) That's why you'll often find infps just sitting around, we're honestly content in our thoughts and in this dreamy, meditative experience, in the simplest things such as breath, it's all enjoyable. It's LIFE anyway! The other thing that low TE does is that we are not often in the mindset of "what is the value in the sense of USE of X thing" OR "what can I learn about this that will help me with X goal" in the TE way of something "working". TE is very much self improvement I guess, it's very much success-oriented towards meeting goalposts that are quantified, measured and actionable, which is fine and useful, especially career-oriented. But an INFP value is oftentimes the opposite (which could be why we are drawn to art and humanities) - beauty is valuable, kindness is valuable. We prefer to operate on valuable the nonquantifiable, nonmeasurable, and pursuing that which may even be intangible. But as an INFP, my preference is "what is the INHERENT value" and most things like art, has an inherent value of enjoyment- enjoying the moment- enjoying life. I am spending a day watching make-up videos, I am enjoying the aesthetic, the knowledge of the person applying, their enthusiasm for their craft and detail-oriented towards appearances and how it gets to be enhanced. I may not be interested, or use the information personally-- but I may relate via connections (I like painting! So make-up = painting a face) and then have that connection to understand why a friend of mine who may be into makeup, how we can relate on this level. I understand THAT person/perspective better and I can take the big-picture concept of mastery and artistry and apply it to what I know of the human condition. Infps consume something to learn "how can I understand the human condition better" so we can be better humans and understand other humans better.FI serves us in this because we measure by our hearts and our instincts, it acts as our compass and lets us know if we're falling astray. It's not a numbers game, it's a feelings game. A lot of people immediately dismiss feelings as lacking any sort of objectivity, logic, or persuasiveness- but I counter this by saying that most humans are swayed/persuaded via emotion, most humans make important decisions via emotions, and most humans lack objectivity. Understanding feelings then becomes paramount, which suits me in similar yet different ways from this ENFP-- good discussion! :)
You can utilise the INFJ side of the mind by being more pertinent with giving people recognition and making them feel good. Creating insecurity in others is something you should be considerate of.
Thanks for having me be a host on your channel and taking 20min to say a bunch of stuff about ENFPs 😘
great stuff I identified a lot with you. I am an ENFP also. I think tho, that many of the struggles I listened to you saying about ENFP, could be aid of the Te. By trusting the things you have learnt and experienced (Si, which you are doing already), you can be more independent in your decisions, more authentic and leading people easily.
Thats something might help you, but you know more about yourself so take it if it helps you. cheers
Why don't you like to get psychologically close to ESTJs?
Q Ward the main reason is that I’ve never met one where i truly had common interests. We can joke and chat about general things, but we don’t tend to have the ability to get closer because there is too much disconnect
You did a great job! That was very informative and accurate.
So adorable
You addressed my biggest issue! I am an ENFP and I have a really hard time staying interested in people. When I meet an interesting person I penetrate their soul and get to know the real them, ( I am not interested in their day either) but once I figure them out, I have no desire to reach out to them even though I love them. The few people I do stay interested in are bad for me because they are either emotionally unavailable or mentally unstable.
Sara Songer relaaaaaaate 😭
MY GOD! 😭😭😭 TOO ACCURATE!!
dude that last part about only being interested in people who are bad for you due to their emotional + mental instability speaks to my experience exactly 💯
Maybe we're most attracted to chaos because we're always searching for something new and different - at least in my experience. So we end up with people who are more ... Unstable
Welp 😵 10000000% accurate
The mentally unstable part
But I can’t pull away
The wasting time thing really resonated with me. I've been questioning my type quite a bit recently, but I'm starting to stick to ENFP again
yo enfp here! the part where she's like "what can i gain from this situation" and "the thought of wasting my time not learning or gaining from this situation makes me feel physically ill" damn that feels familiar..
I was just preaching this last week 😂
Yes, absolutely yes. I don't feel gross, but my head doesn't feel right, like it's a too hot humid summerday, when your head feels like that. Can't say it in english, sorry!
I mean…who doesn't?!
No one truly likes wasting one's time right?
I'm an ENFP and I totally agree with you. I find I have so many books on "How to...." Even my TH-cam searches are on practical matters and self-improvement. I love to lecture my friends on my latest discoveries and they roll their eyes because I am always changing and trying new things. But to my credit, I force myself to follow through with most plans even if it takes me a long time.
this is literally me! I mistype as every type but this... damn, "me".
The whole "the most introverted of the extroverted" is so often used, for so many types
That's true. For INFJs they often say "the most extraverted of the introverts". Well, I'm INFJ and extremly introverted. So... maybe it's just individual. Every other introverted I know is more extraverted than me.
Maybe they just want to seem super balanced. :D
@@t.a.yeah. It is possible enfj is the most extroverted of hte introverted (on average), but if phrases like that only work if they're said about 1 type. It's like people would say 'It's the rarest type of all' about 5 different types.
@@PowerRedBullTypology Don't they say it about other introverted types, too? :D 🤷♀️
@@t.a.yeah. haha..Nah, only INFJs..becuz infjs urrr specialllll
@@PowerRedBullTypology 🙄
I'm loving the friendly vibe of this channel. And omg, I'm an ENFP and completely relate to "once someone has given you all they can give, you become less interested"
I don’t relate with that. I can't resist to have the people when they give all they can give. I feel bad to not have them.
The Enfp isn’t illogical
That’s just a weapon for other types to shut the enfp and their ideas
I’ve experienced it myself many times
Thank you ... I am starting to get really confused by watching these youtube videos and doubting my type. The ENFP gets shown as an illogical, emotionally unstable, often time non-loyal type - which I am SO not. Nevertheless my functions are those of an ENFP.
Wow, I loved this! You articulated things that I didn't even know were ENFP things. Like the second in command thing: as a kid, I consciously decided to always keep myself in this spot whenever possible. So, in my pack of cousins, A was the leader, but looked at me to see if I gave the nod before deciding something. I enjoy this sort of power much better than actually being the leader. Leaders just don't have as much fun! However if there is no leader, I am not shy to step up. I just want everything to be somewhat organized and moving along. I'd rather it wasn't me sorting it out, but I'd rather do it than let everyone flop around uselessly.
My best friend is an istj, and we admire each other's strengths and make an excellent team together.
E R ohhhh youre so lucky to have an istj bestie!! What a great pairing!
Michelle- as an ENFP I can totally relate. I've learned over the years is to start out with the benefits of our suggestions before suggesting solutions. I still fall into the "b" trap at times, when my intentions are merely trying to add value to the group. But many people take things very personally, and they don't like change. We are changemakers, and I'm glad you're talking about how we can play constructive roles on teams.
Yessss such a good point about benefits!!!
For my ENFP boyfriend, ultimate torture is having to sit through an unproductive meeting.
I strongly relate to that😅
As an ENFP, I can’t stand anything that is not leading to my goals or objectives. If my goal is to have a fun night meeting new people at a social event, then that’s what my goal is. If my goal is to get a task done for work, then I hate anything that keeps me from that.
“I feel physically ill that I wasted my time...” so TRUE. I hate senseless input. Unfortunately I also love stories. Cue frustration as I binge series on Netflix etc. I relate to so much of this video...
ENFP married to an ENTP and what you say about Ti is true. I come to him when I need reliable analysis. I have had the issue with losing interests in people too. But, I never forget them. I will sometimes try to find them years later just to see how they’re doing. I am satisfied when I see they’re doing well. My best friends are the long distance ones who don’t need to be in constant contact. When new things happen in their lives, I am very interested in finding out the details. I want to learn from people’s successes and failures. This, plus all the information I collect goes into a huge gumbo of knowledge that I pull from when I use te. Leadership can be problematic for an ENFP. We are not linear, but lateral thinkers, always wanting to explore possibilities. Progress is correlated with a variety of experiences rather than scaling or merging or acquiring. We can be very creative problem solvers and people oriented, but we don’t like to have conflict with people. Unless we are championing something we believe in, then that is okay 😂
Im also an ENFP married to an ENTP! And I totally relate!!
My eyes hurt so much by looking into your reflective glasses :DDD
Míša Vu 🤩🤩
My favorite type to do anything with is a mature ESFP. Our Te sparks a constant magical flow of ideation. I can organize everything and create a game plan and the ESFP goes out and does it and has the social charm to get everyone on board. Their Se stimulates my Si and my Ne strengthens their Ni.
I also am a magnet for difficult personality types - they are my favorite people and they usually don't mind that I'm annoying.
Thats interesting, I actually married one! (I'm also an ENFP)
I ❤ how you qualified your preference with "mature" ESFP. 👌🏾
I think we ENFP's are logical in the sense that we do what works for us. It's just that others don't understand our process, as it outwardly doesn't appear linear. Asking an Enfp to follow your own logic, and completely disregard their own complex pattern recognition, is highly illogical. We might try it your way for a time, but we'll ultimately come back to what works best for us. If you only offer "conventional" advice to an unconventional person - YOU are not being logical.
Yes to the high practicality!!! At least as I’ve developed as an ENFP I feel this way!!
this is like a description of my life, especially the reaching out and the being second in command
I have tried to explain how being 2nd place is always the best, like room to improve but still better than everyone else. Loosely related but still
I really relate to when you said you prefer to see that something works rather than have someone explain to you that it works. It can get annoying if someone feels like they need to go into a lot of detail when I feel like it's way more practical to keep things moving
I agree with everything you said! Especially the hatred for the tedium of explaining things to people when you are in leadership or doing a project. I also synch immediately with ENTJs and ESTJs at work. I think they see us a smart and capable, but unreliable. And EN TJ or an ES TJ has the power to stay the course, and most of the ones I know pursue a very linear path.
I love ENFPs lol, they're great
Omgosh Michelle. Fellow ENFP here. The part where you've mentioned we watch things that we don't gain anything from. That's too real.
00:20 How ENFPs use their extroverted thinking (Te)
00:40 ENFP vs INTP
01:45 Extroverted thinkers (Te) in the third slot
03:16 ENFP vs extroverted thinkers (Te) in the first slot
05:11 Socionics: ENFP & ESTJ
06:43 Socionics: ENFP & ENTJ
09:13 ENFPs: extracting value out of things
12:41 How ENFPs relate with people
15:41 ENFPs and decision-making
17:17 ENFPs and leadership
18:21 Decision-making regarding introverted thinking stuff
19:28 In conclusion
Thank you!
INTJ here :) I always love to share ideas and almost too many ideas that people can’t keep up with me LOL. it’s crazy that I say everything in perfect logic which leaves them in shock :) You see, I don’t have much close friends so I haven’t experience socializing with an ENFP (soulmate for a INTJ). Right now I just wanna to have an ENFP listen to me all day long and share nerdy ideas. I was always wondering is it perhaps because of my half Asian Gene which makes me nerdy or my personality (⁎⁍̴̛ᴗ⁍̴̛⁎)
That Guitar Girl as an ENFP, i can tell you i love listening to INTJs. Your ideas are almost always facinating 😍
INTJs are everything but boring to me! I love you guys because you guys never bore me. My bestie is an INTJ and she never ceases to amaze me. She is the ying to my yang. I always feels like we are learning from each other, which is both of our favorite thing to do. I also love solving mysteries…and you guys are the biggest one out there. My favorite thing about to reveal the layer underneath the surface, and you guys have more layers than middle earth. Sorry, for the rant. I just had to tell you how great you INTJs are. ❤
I love this video so much! Thank you, thank you, thank you 😍 for explaining exactly how I think and what I feel! I'm so tired of being portrayed as cry-baby with the attention span of a goldfish when I'm so much more than that!
I admire logic, I'm practical, I'm the best co-pilot you'll ever have, and I'm a deep thinker with a thirst for knowledge.
Most importantly I LOVE YOU ALL 🤗
Kisses from your enfp 🥰
Amna Al Hawaj yessss im tired of that portrayal also. It’s degrading and untrue. I think there are definitely much more sensitive types out there
@@PsychologyandChillwMichi true but having the f will make you illogical at times. I feel you guys are willing to listen to logic but care too much about what others think. Im an ISTP btw so im very insensitive a lot
@@ISIIN15 John Gaskill I would have to challenge you a bit on the "F" aspect of ENFPs. We are Introverted Feelers so we primarily make decisions based on our own values, what feels right internally. We're not afraid to go against the status quo if championing a cause we deem worthy. Now Extroverted Feelers, such as ENFJs will use make decisions based on what feels right externally, what keeps harmony. So if an ENFP is hurt, it's because a personal value was violated. Where as an ENFJ would be hurt if you violate a societal norm. I hope that that makes sense.
It's so interesting to watch this, because for me I relate so much to losing interest in friends that I already know everything about, and especially if those people are the quiet and the non-adventurous type because I feel more excited with friends that are outgoing, even if they're introverts, I feel like with them I can explore more, but closed minded and less adventurous types I cannot seems to hold the interest after I get to know everything about them. It's really interesting to hear this! Also, this relate to work as well, I am so afraid of committing to a job because I feel trapped, weirdly enough I like the excitement of looking for jobs because it makes me experience the idea of working in this or that place or in this or that position. Therefore committing to one job makes me quite nervous, but I personally think I need to keep this under control as I know realistically speaking I need to settle on something (TMI: I am a master student lol) and thus these days I am trying to find jobs that have various tasks in order to keep me entertained.
Yes!!! As an ENFP, EVERYTHING you said is soooo TRUE!!!
Yesss i feel sooo much less alone!!!
Jsjsjsjs why are you screaming? Jsjsjsjs it's so funny
You spoke my mind! That te always in the background assessing if I wasted my time or not. I have to kind of call Fi in and be like “I’m allowed to watch stuff just because I like it. Not everything has to be a tool!” (I have pretty developed Te)
I thought I was an “IN” type for years - because I tested as one, and never even considered checking out Extroverted types because I knew I must be an introvert.
However, after all these years, it all makes sense now. Thank you so much.
Spot on! Especially the part about not wanting to be the leader but wanting to be second in command. I like being at the top because I want to know all the information at all times. I just don’t want to be in charge.
Michelle what a pleasant surprise. I am so happy you found me. And I you. Please don’t completely judge a book by the store you found him in. Take some time to read some pages a few chapters in.
Resonated so much about outsourcing decision making... And championing versus leadership / 2nd in command 👍
I'm either a sociable infp or very introverted enfp
Every part was so well explained 😃 😆 It was too relatable, and also hello from your fello ENFP 💖💗
Some advice I would give to an ENFP on how not to ghost your friends as much. Don't get too focused on looking at them as a productive mechanism for learning and only seek what's new from them. But rather, enjoy just spending time with your friends and do something fun together and let life offer new experiences that you can connect with together. Also, seek to help them whenever you can and be emotionally supportive. -INFP
OMG the leadership thing is so accurate!!!!!!! I don't want to lead a group but i want my ideas to be listen! so that's more intersting for me to have the second lead rôle! i think that's a waste of time and energy to lead people, if I am the second lead, I can more freely work on my project and talk about it correctly later and help the leader for its task as well. that's a perfect place to be for me!
Im an ENFP too and I love to know my favorite question is why haha
Can totally relate to all the job stuff with telling people better ways to do things. I had a year in school solely focused on extra-curriculars and non-academic projects. I would often take charge and try and make a group more productive, as usually, everyone was a bit of a hot mess. And despite the fact that I wasnt even rude, I just knew how to assert myself, people collectively decided I was mean, bossy and loud. I felt frustrated that my actual work and ability was not acknowledged, while my own personality was being shit on.....
I'm a bit confused about when you mentioned the "what can I gain from this conversation" mindset is a Te thing because other Te users dont really have this bad enfp habit (which I've heard about many times actually) of getting close to someone, forgetting them and finding others and then going back to that person. As an infp I also really crave those conversations. I love to find out about new people and pick apart their mind and secrets and stories but I cant do it much cos I dont know who is worth the effort and I dont have the energy to keep talking to people till I find an interesting one. But I dont usually lose that connection, I try to maintain it (but I'm also bad at staying in touch) and I've never thought there was a Te reason to this cos I dont approach with the intention of gaining life lessons but more to hear something interesting that I can reflect on later about how it made me feel
Probably because it is our 'child' function as well as mixed with our dom ne might make it more sporadic/prevalent Then someone without those sm specific placements/stacking. Like i don't think she was suggesting it's an overall te trait but rather a te trait through the workings/lense of an ENFP yk. So it may not show up the sm for you especially with it being your least dominant in your top stacking.
I did a make up influencer video binge a few months ago too!!! I like knowing who’s on top and some of the slang. Then I blocked them from ever showing up in my feed again.
Haha yes I do that with MBTI as well
SO TRUE ABOUT THE INTERESTING PEOPLE PART OMG!!!! Felt so seen by that part. Also working on that
On doing something you did not get anything from. It’s interesting that Te/Fi has such a difficulty with the notion that sometimes you don’t get anything out of something and cannot treat that as a data point to develop a certain axiom: sometimes your efforts will not benefit yourself in any way you can understand. That leaves three possibilities to be open to: 1. It has been beneficial but you are not aware how. 2. It has been beneficial to someone else and you just selflessly gave to them. 3. It is of no benefit to anyone. That latter point is the one to try to avoid, but I think still useful since you can examine where you went wrong and try to avoid it again.
As an ISTJ, I related a lot to this, specifically the latter half. I enjoy meeting new people and learning about/from them. And I think about them even long after we’ve stopped communicating.
I guess it’s just a Te/Fi thing.
We have so much more in common than a lot of people think and if you believe in the four sides of the mind, we have eachothers shadow, so you would have ENFP shadow so would like that meeting people more than an outsider might expect
That part about being desperate regarding finding use for new information is so true. Accumulating insane ammounts of seemingly useless information just in case you find yourself in a situation where knowing that one thing may mean you can strengthen a bond and establish a connection with someone somewhere sometime
Michelle! whatupgirl. I heavily relate to about 90% of what you articulated in this vid...and I'm an INFP.
YES regarding useless info intake, even the physical sickness caused by it. It's so hard to not beat yourself up after "wasting time" that way...but I think the bullet journaling is a great way to check in and intentionally try to align yourself with activities that contribute to giving yourself The Best Chance. Some people's distractions/addictions are LOUD and some are (quiet). I default to the quiet mode, where people don't really see what my shortcomings are in that sense...I wonder if this added bit of secrecy adds to the self-chastising. It's inspiring and freeing of you to share those parts of yourself.
@@NathanJGlass Nathan...I'm in!
I cant wait to see a video you do about INFP. We have so much in common with each other!! Its interesting because sometimes its really hard to tell the difference a lot of timessss
Oh wow, I can so relate to this and have never heard it described as an ENFP trait before... "If you do X, Y and Z, it'll be much more efficient!" As an ENFP, I definitely crave novelty and get distracted easily but I do feel like I can be fairly logical and I like solving things like this!! 😅
Omg yes to second in command for me!!! THEN WE’RE STUCK YESSS!! I love being on the committee or second in command but get stressed being THE leader
Lol my SO is Te dom and I can't handle it when he tells me how to solve problems.
As an ENFP, I agree with every single thing you said. Practical, yes. I have also done the thing where I listen or watch people in order to learn. I’ve done this my whole life. And I love working with some types that help me be more productive. But I wouldn’t want to hang out either them after work because then they would start to annoy me. And, yes, when I meet new people, I become ultra interested in them and come on strong with the positive vibes. Then after I feel like I have a handle on who they are, I lose interest and move on to some new person to learn from. It’s kind of awkward. 😬 😂 But I’ve learned to manage the initial interest bombing.
Interesting. INFP here and I cannot seem to get along with ESTJs at all. I think maybe because I am not direct which bothers them and they are too direct which bothers me. Oh well!
Also, I had two classmates, at high school... one was INFP, the other ESTJ, and they were best mates. They actually are still, now that high school is over and they took different paths. They were always together and had a lot in common... I remember them as a funny duo. They had the same passions and interests but both learned different perspectives from the other.
S types in general are a problem for N types... AND VICE VERSA. But IMO they (S types) need to meet us (N types) halfway... too often we have to be more grounded, when most of the time, they need to loosen up and DREAM for a change. Lol
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As an ENFP, it took me 2 minutes to love you Michelle
Wow I can relate so much :))) thanks for clarifying myself :DDDD
I just let go of an enfp. We couldn't work together. I'm ESFP. Super lovely girl and have many ENFP friends but working together was a disaster! You are super sweet!
InHislove i work with an ESFP. With a healthy distance we work great, but i cant imagine projects or working closer would benefit us. We each are independent of each other and help out the other, which has been really good
I adore you, Michelle! My best friend is ENFP and you totally remind me of her. -Intj
Agreed with most of what you said, only differences caused are probably because I’m currently going through a much more outgoing phase but not experiencing much success in getting to know many people much better :’)
Couldn’t have said it better myself. (Preach it!!!!!!) Also, this can be applied to romantic relationships. I’m always thinking about functionality, and how the relationship will move forward in an efficient way. Does it meet bottom lines and end goals? However, with my Fi, it sounds like “I like you... but I don’t think it would be a good idea to date you.” Then people think I’m just being noncommittal:(
Also, my lack of Ti means I have a hard time logically explaining this part of myself to people. I can’t easily tell someone how I can like them and not want to act on it. It takes me so long, and so much nonsense, so much thinking out loud, such an emotional roller coaster! This is why I use other people (especially Ti users) to help me make decisions. They hold me hand and walk me through it.
angela kincy do you also make immediate contingency plans if something even smells slightly sour? Just as a back up to know you have something to lean on?
Yes! I kind of treat it like a game of chess. If this happens, I’ll make this move and so on. I create as many Ne possibilities as I can, and then back them with Te strategies. It’s like a pyramid, there are a lot of bricks at the bottom, but they all support one Fi brick at the top.
This!!
idealising people at first and later loose interest while they think we are friends oO
Im so happy here and there find some who i still see as being great and I can „keep“ but its rare
enfp are different external and internal
they dont show how protected the inner sanctuary is and appear too open, too nice and eventually can disappoint orhers
I am an enfp but I am sometimes offended when told to improve how I do things at times, especially when I worked really hard at it haha.
Would love to hear your take on the intp. I feel similar to some of what you said
Ik I’m gonna revisit this but I looked at the scroll bar and it’s only been 7 minutes I need something we 🤦
So I actually love being in charge, and somehow or other I usually end up in leadership. I think my coaching/teaching attitude just lends itself to that. I want everyone to reach their potential and I know how to get them there. However, when I'm in leadership, while most love me, there usually are one or two who hate me. :'(
I mask my trouble with logic with volumes and volumes of reference points which create kind of like a spiderweb, and I can more or less make a straight line. But it's never mattered much. I did well in math and science because I understood the metaphysics behind them, and I think that well-exercised Ne/Si provides an adequate framework to organize information and to discern between true and false.
I will say that my Si is somewhat supercharged from my childhood and I think I've used that to compensate for a lot of things. 😁
Ashley Cnossen thats such a great point about the reference points. Just enough logical structure and data points to string together a steady-ish foundation!
Now, this is the kind of ENFP I would love to have as a friend; the only one I know, I think, is a bit unhealthy. I love practical people because they realize what the point of doing something is and actually acts on it; I think practicality satisfies my Ni because it's a direct route to the end goal and achieving the purpose.
The ENTP I'm in a relationship with also has the tendency to throw out a bunch of Ne ideas. She rarely fully commits to one but only executes them to the point where it's proven that it's valid or only shares them for others to execute because, I assume, like you said, she's afraid of failure.
- INFJ
I do have the problem of lots of ideas, but i am actually with an INFJ (going on 5 years now) and he helps me with follow through and limiting how much i agree to take on. When i limit those i can be very good at follow through (and enjoy the feeling of the completion)
12.36-12.40 When the adorableness KICKS in!!
This little part by the way.. It's all so damn Ne-Si, i just cannot explain "why", Ti-wise, but I can ONLY see an ENFP or ENTP "do this" that way haha!!
I do it all the damn time (enfp). When I find something "bad" it feels like no one word I use can possible describe the feeling it gives me, so I ramble off many (MANY) words hoping the person I'm talking to gets the point
Me at any restaurant/cafe: “What do you like? Cool.. I’ll have that”.
I totally am guilty of learning everything about a person and then moving on.
yea it's best to not get too close to thinking dominants. they're cool, but seem like 🤖's
You mean all t types or just IxTP and ExTJ? Imo the entp and intp are warmer than xxTJ because we have ne and fe. ExTJs have charisma but it's often not really genuine interest in the other person, it's usually just some Te goal they're working on and trying to manipulate whoever they're talking to. Of course any type can have real relationships, but xxTJs act cold more often. XxTPs are probably next in line
any INTJ listening to any ENFP: “Is this all the same run on sentence?”
I thought I was ENTP until I watched this. Thank you.
just curious. is the guy from love who an intp ?
Think tho ENTP and ENFP especially bored from people.. are alike like it’s stagnant..
I like to watch people’s ideas.. it’s really rare I connect real emotional connection.. think fe is needed to watch that superficial side. Yet the Ti would make us seem so cold.. actually I think the emotional bond comes through the bond of ideas and ENTPs connect to that and the bond deepens if they value them..
❤️ u guys
Haha lets make the system work better but fails to use Ti....sad sad world...you will never get the system right by brutal force.
Watching this feeling so inferior cuz she seems way in advanced not only in her understanding of herself as an enfp but also in her experiences and her understanding of those experiences, how cognizant she was throughout those experiences. Aren’t we supposed to be absent minded as well?? Is it just me?
Didn't know much about ENFP's, but I'm thinking anyone who has Extroverted-Intuition as one of their top 3 functions is kewl. Because they see possibilities and likely have a curious nature. Thus, they are more interesting people.
And, congrats, you got me to "pause-and-pomder" a moment over the idea that: Even though something MAY not be totally logical----it can still be USEFUL. (although if if it *is* logical, its nice to have that. But not always an absolute necessity).
Are you and Nathan both in the UK? I'm in the USA (west of the Rockies (mountains). I'm still wrestling with which type am i. I keep "bouncing around" between: Entp. Istp or Intp. Large chunks of all 3 seem to fit. sigh. Glad that LoveWho has videos on both Istp and Intp.
Ok so first of all. Im an enfp, but a lot of the stuff she tells it is not the same to me, like finding a purpose to useless things, I always and I say always find a reason to feel good about wjat i did or do. Also i rlly like to take comand, just the idea of me inspiring a group of people into my own philosphy turns me on instantly, and I always stick with people close to me and never leave behind anyone because it makes me feel like ive lost a part of my future if i do.
I must say, I don't really understand ENFPs. AT ALL. But this thing of practicality... it totally confused me! Where this come from? Is it from Te? As a ISTP, I share this practical and objective way of seeing things SO MUCH, but I always assumed that this came from my Ti, Se strong. What a mess! hahaha I don't know who I am anymore, or the world, or anything! Ghhhh (I knew this would happen the minute I tried to understand you guys. Why do you have to do this?!?! lol)
ENFP. I agree with almost everything! Sadly, even the make-up videos part.
You should get @LiJo to come do INTJ in their own words.
Michelle! I always thought ENFPs are very logical and analytical
Sarah Kielion so you see the truth!!! Eeeeee!
@@PsychologyandChillwMichi haha yes
@@PowerRedBullTypology i agree
What... theyre an f personality type. They tend to be over emotional.
@@ISIIN15 F vs. T does not equal intelligence capacity or emotional. If anything, your own comment tells us more about you than ENFPs being "over emotional."
0:47 classic ExFP taking passive aggressive jabs at people they think are boring
Spot on 👍🏻
2:13 I do this too often 😭
It's called Associated Logic, not Syllogism type Linear Logic. We see similarities no one else sees, and we connect parellel structures. If A is similar to B (partially identical) and since X is true for A, is it possible (?) that X is true for B, as well? We contruct webs of parallel possibilities, using Associative Logic. And we don't plod either, we do this at lightening speed. Making and testing and discarding hypothetis, rapidly, and sometimes jump to conclusions that (when correct) borders on genius. It's really hard for other people to follow our train of thought, but its gratifying to see the light bulbs click on, in their minds. I call it 'thinking diagonally', versus the prosaic 'thinking straight'. Its like traveling on a diagonal slide is much faster than climbing down a ladder. And so much more fun.
good video
Lol I still dont understand ENFPs and I dont think I ever will. I was kind of surprised as well when she said she’ll ask ENTPs, ESTPs and INFJs about Ti related questions for accurate answers but didn’t mention Ti doms.
Why not?
as an enfp i also love practicality
Thanks. I do rely on my ESTJ son to help me. Not good. Best videos.
I think you use the world "learn" more than necessory 🤣 it is not all about learning. A lot of time is about feeling good. Feeling deep and emotional with people
I relate to the wasted time guilt or disgust, binge watching some useless just for some kick
Huge mistake I've got to correct
"INTj" in socionics is the INTP In the MBTI (there is a reason for this - but let's save some time.. All you need to do to avoid confusion is to check carfuly the functions (Ni-Te) or (Ti-Ne) - if they match in both studies you're good to proceed!)
and the relationship between the two (ENFP + INTP ) is "supervision" : basicaly INTPs value ENFPs (Ne) but think they should focus on (Ti) instead of (Fi)
Its very anoying (even stressful at times) to spend a lot of time with your "supervisor" and the worst part is that your supervisor never fully realise the tension he produces..
But yeah MBTI's ENFPs and INTJs are a good match with their shared functions Fi-Te (realy good to push eachothers to take actions)
Hey Michelle what is about ENTJ's that majes you feel like you don't want to have a close relationship with them? Does the same thing happen to you with INTJ's?
Why would it be ok with the INFP that they wasted their time watching useless videos, etc? Their Fi is their dominant function, so value is even more important to them.
Well it makes since. I can't speak too much on infp functions, but if they're fi is higher it'd makes since for them to just enjoy that they enjoyed the experience.
Fi is only our parent so when Ne comes in to ask "how can I use this" it gets nothing and then Ni Nemesis comes in to say "this isn't helping your future at all, why did you sit inhale this entire series," then we feel bad.
But I'm an ENFP and (to be honest) I could be completely wrong because I typed what "felt" like a correct correlation but have no logos to back it up
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John Miller - Thank you for explaining the dynamic going on here between the functions. I’m only familiar with the 4 function stacks, not the expanded version of functions. I don’t even know where I could study that. Is that socionics?
I'm an INFP. We're defining "value" differently. There is little we see as useless, as an INFP, because we operate on the mindset that if it exists, then it has an inherent value. Full stop. Everything is valuable.
Understanding why something is valuable and to who, is what makes it valuable--- it doesn't have to be valuable to me, or have immediate applicable UTILITY to be valuable. It can be valuable to someone else. It can be valuable in the future. It can be valuable in ways I don't understand.
Our TE is fairly low, so this has two effects:
Our sense of time is not very good. And by that I mean, a day can seem like an eternity to me. I am rarely thinking like I am running out of time (usually that is FORCED onto me by someone else rushing me/telling me there's a deadline etc) and I am rarely thinking that I only have X amount of time left in my life. It could also be that I am a young infp though and have this luxury (I'm only 27). So already, we don't think of "wasting" time. If I am living right now, breathing air, and therefore using up time, then I am using time. There's no waste, happening here :) That's why you'll often find infps just sitting around, we're honestly content in our thoughts and in this dreamy, meditative experience, in the simplest things such as breath, it's all enjoyable. It's LIFE anyway!
The other thing that low TE does is that we are not often in the mindset of "what is the value in the sense of USE of X thing" OR "what can I learn about this that will help me with X goal" in the TE way of something "working". TE is very much self improvement I guess, it's very much success-oriented towards meeting goalposts that are quantified, measured and actionable, which is fine and useful, especially career-oriented.
But an INFP value is oftentimes the opposite (which could be why we are drawn to art and humanities) - beauty is valuable, kindness is valuable. We prefer to operate on valuable the nonquantifiable, nonmeasurable, and pursuing that which may even be intangible.
But as an INFP, my preference is "what is the INHERENT value" and most things like art, has an inherent value of enjoyment- enjoying the moment- enjoying life.
I am spending a day watching make-up videos, I am enjoying the aesthetic, the knowledge of the person applying, their enthusiasm for their craft and detail-oriented towards appearances and how it gets to be enhanced. I may not be interested, or use the information personally-- but I may relate via connections (I like painting! So make-up = painting a face) and then have that connection to understand why a friend of mine who may be into makeup, how we can relate on this level. I understand THAT person/perspective better and I can take the big-picture concept of mastery and artistry and apply it to what I know of the human condition.
Infps consume something to learn "how can I understand the human condition better" so we can be better humans and understand other humans better.FI serves us in this because we measure by our hearts and our instincts, it acts as our compass and lets us know if we're falling astray. It's not a numbers game, it's a feelings game. A lot of people immediately dismiss feelings as lacking any sort of objectivity, logic, or persuasiveness- but I counter this by saying that most humans are swayed/persuaded via emotion, most humans make important decisions via emotions, and most humans lack objectivity. Understanding feelings then becomes paramount, which suits me in similar yet different ways from this ENFP-- good discussion! :)
Audy fascinating! So similar and yet different... im still trying to learn more about what differentiates an INFP from ENFP
@@audy2174 yes!!! Totally agree
"No one's the type that they say they are"wait, everything I know is a lie!? - INFJ... or am I???
I agree totally.
But, dear, if you don't mind me asking... Why did you even binge watched makeup videos all day? 🤔
Sara Stutter i dont knowwwww because the makeup was pretty
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You should never ask an ENFP such a logical Ti question....
@@PowerRedBullTypology But I don't have Ti, mate. In fact I am an INFP. Surprised?
@@sahrha9814 I'm just teasing, cause this subject is touched multiple times in the comments (that they do not like Ti stuff)
You can utilise the INFJ side of the mind by being more pertinent with giving people recognition and making them feel good. Creating insecurity in others is something you should be considerate of.
B K TV this is such true advice and honestly something that i only learned in the last few years by people telling me how what i was doing came off.
Michelle Wilson Yeah its hard when dealing with other Fi users but you can do it pretty well.
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@@PsychologyandChillwMichi Great great video Michelle. Brilliant :)
Their is no such thing as creating insecurity in adults, only children thrive off the opinion of others
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