Pull rope is stuck and won't budge
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Thanks for watching. This trimmer was in storage for a short few months and when it was taken out the rope was stuck. The problems was pretty simple to fix. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
I like that this guy doesn't edit out when he's fumbling with the air filter. It lets me know that it's not just me
Bought a chainsaw,spares or repair. Pull rope wouldn't move. Took spark plug out, covered in lot of fuel/oil residue. Removed muffler to check piston etc. Piston ring was glued too. Poured some white spirit into exhaust port & plug hole. Left to soften a few hours then engine turned over. There was still a thick coating on piston head & upper cylinder.
Mixed 25 ml of white spirit in 5 litres of petrol. Used to make up 2 stroke mix @ 40:1 .
After running a few tanks of this fuel mix, checked piston through exhaust port. The residue had dissipated. The metal was shiny & piston ring groove clean. No visible damage in engine, just some tarry gunk in bottom of muffler. Spark arrestor screen clean. Still running well. Hope this helps someone salvage an abused tool. People's thoughts would be appreciated. TIA
It happens sometimes but you did a great job freeing it up.
I'm opening up my weedeater today. I am not mechanical but I have managed to fix some mowers using youtube. This will be my first try with a weedeater.
And and she wanted to go buy a new weed wacker. One of the most helpful videos I've seen. Thank you so much.
no problem, I appreciate that
Yea I had that happen to me spring of 2018. I was pissed cause it was only three years old. I didn’t know what it was. Thank goodness for TH-cam. All it was, was stuck piston from old fuel over winter. Anyway I was so happy I fixed it , I started fixing lawnmowers when I found them on the curb. It was always something I kinda wanted to do. I learned everything I know by watching TH-cam videos.
Thanks for more info!
No problem Booths Wattha for the comment I appreciate it. I enjoy it too.
Thanks for this video man, literally saved me so much time and money, and I won't lose a day of work either. I didn't even need to use carburetor cleaner for mine, all it needed was a bit of WD40 and it did the trick. Made my day.
no problem and nice work!
AMAZING ‼️‼️‼️ Just used this tutorial to fix my edger. Not a hands on guy. I’ll go buy another but, I’m going to fix EVERYTHING !!!!
Thanks so much for posting this
thank you Johnnie Hicks .
My fufu pounding machine's rope is stuck and I know I will come back to share a testimony with you all after watching this amazing tutorials. 😅
Outstanding job on this one. Glad to see you are more comfortable working in cool weather now.
I really don't like cold weather but I can't complain working on this stuff.
I had the same problem on my dad’s string trimmer and this video worked perfectly to guide me in fixing it. Super helpful. I just subscribed to your channel. Thank you.
Glad it helped and thank you
Never had an engine stuck because of storage yet. But plugged carb yes. Great video. Thanks for sharing.
thank you D Butler for the comment and this was a first for me too.
Well my really old pole saw got seized up from storage and I’m working on it right now
@@rickastley4393 that's a shame. Good luck with it
Dude, awesome! this is exactly what happened to me and this step by step was perfect in every way. Thank you!
no problem
@@HomeGaragechannel hi my engine is rotating aftet removing the spark plug, but it get stuck again after putting it back on. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
@@sameerbhutna Wrong plug? Too long? Hitting the piston top.
Great diagnosis and repair.
Never had one stuck, but the crank case full of fuel making it a pain to start.
Curb find Echos here are damn near impossible to find, only one in ten years.
FB sellers want crazy money for ones that don’t run.
Yes you are right about fb. Best to ask people you know if they know someone with a non working one.
This is why when you winterize your equipment, you dump the fuel but don’t forget to run it after a few times to burn all the fuel out of the system
You're absolutely right about that. Thank you Ozzy Dotson.
Great job! I had the same issue with a Shindaiwa hedge trimmer I was able to loosen the seized piston using a 50/50 mixture of kerosene and two cycle oil and letting it soak for 24hrs...enjoy your videos...keep up the good work.
thank you Kirk Leaper
This happened to me 1st time trying to use mine the Spring of 2022. Follow this step by step & it resolved my issue. Thank you
no problem and thank you Ed Colon.
Great video, with clear, simple explanations. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks for the tip on removing the spark plug, that was my problem
no problem
😁👍Good morning, that was very simple, y really appreciate you taking the time to share how to repair my neighbor Wacker⭐⭐⭐⭐
no problem
Worked for me. Thanks a million brother. It was my dad's x-series weed eater. I think there was some built up pressure from the WD-40 being in there with the spark plug in. But as I pulled the string a few times the pressure began to release more and more with every stroke till it started.
no problem
Very nice, informative and “to the point” video.
thank you Mike Plunkett
Thanks!! I have a stihl and was racking my brain trying to figure out what was wrong!
no problem
HUGE THANKS. THIS HELPED THE MOST OF ALL THE VIDs I SAW.
thank you!
I have the same problem with my motor scooter and this is the only video that i Found Useful Thank you very much
no problem
I hate how people think as soon as they buy higher priced equipment and then treat it like crap from day one because they think it’s more expensive so it can handle more abuse than the cheaper stuff and then just throw around the trimmer all over the place I just hate how people do that. And I think you should treat the more expensive stuff with more care than the cheaper stuff. Just needed to get that out
Big ops to you mate……followed your instructions of the exactly same problem…..worked well….. thanks. 🙏👍🏼
Glad it helped
This never happened to me ever but this was some very useful information that you shared here bro. Thanks for sharing
Any time
Great vid and another example that preventive maintenance helps avoid problems. Crazy amount of varnish in that engine. 🤪
You're absolutely right about that. Thank you Phil De Giudice .
Thank you for making this video!! Very helpful!
Glad it was helpful!
Awesome video, you just helped me save some few hundreds !!!
Thanks
no problem and thank you for your time
Your videos are the greatest
Thank you Jeff Cox
This looks like the results of improper fuel mix or crappy 2 stroke oil... echo red armor is the best air cooled 2stroke oil out.. I run it in all my machines. Trimmers , chainsaws, snowblower you name it! There is totally a difference between liquid cooled 2stroke oil, marine 2stroke oil and air-cooled 2stroke oil. This info was given to me by my local power equipment shop, awesome guys that take pride in helping provide customers longevity with their equipment, rather than constantly getting it fixed 🙂
thank you for the information.
Or use fuel stablizer.
I have never had any issues starting my equipment after storing for the winter, or longer. At the end of each season I change oil, filters, etc., then run the machine til it stalls out, a couple of times, then I will empty the last few drops of fuel from the tank, leaving the cap loose or off to let everything evaporate, and will dump any residual fuel from the carb, and blow out the jets.
Next season I check the oil, gas and go.
Been doing this for decades.
Never had an issue starting even very old equipment.
But good job getting the trimmer going. May have been a good idea to check the air filter before starting. Eliminates another possible issue, and much easier getting it back on when the engine is not running.
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yes some people just put stuff full of gas.
Thanks to this video I know now what to do with mine, I’ve had the same issue
No problem and thanks for the comment I appreciate it
Liked the video before even starting it
Nice and thanks for the comment
Awesome brother thanks for the video! You are the man 😀,I fixed my echo 225! 😀
0Glad I could help
Good job, I've never had that happen, I only use the good stuff, Aspen 2 in all my two stroke equipment so I don't have to worry about leaving the tank full over winter and I find it burns cleaner. I used to mix my own fuel and had to empty everything for any long storage like over winter but when I changed to Aspen 2 I don't have to worry about that and I also found that it cleans the engine too, my HS 45 Stihl hedge cutters had tons of carbon deposits on top of the piston, 3-4 tank fulls of Aspen 2 and it's gone and looks like new and runs way better
i'll have to look into Aspen 2 sounds like great stuff. Thanks for the comment I appreciate it.
@@HomeGaragechannel no problem, let me know how you get on and please keep up the great video's
@@nicolabooth6075 I will thank you
I love your videos I wach these videos all the time
Thank you Kase Foulk for watching i appreciate it
Thanks Pal. you helped me solve my stuck piston
Glad I could help
Hey bro this helped heaps worked for mine 👌
I have one just like it srm 225 it only 10 years old still going strong ECHO SRM 225 is a good trimmer I take good care of it never had any issues
I feel the same way. Thank you Heath Wilson.
Thank just did the fix and it exactly whar I needed. Here is your sub.
thanks I appreciate that.
Thanks for the help, this was very easy to follow and helped my situation.
thank you JS
Great video! That air filter made you work for it tho 🤣
Yes it did. Thank you hitman L
Never seen that before, as you said, unit was stored incorrectly allowing fuel to run into the cylinder some how. We learn something new every day.
Yes it was new to me too.
Many thanks for your insights. Out to the shop to see if these help. Cheers!
Glad to help
I wish that trick will work on my Farmall Cub. Maybe it will. Thanks for the trick
No problem and thanks for the comment I appreciate it
Perfect 👍🏼 video for me brother
Thank you 🙏
anytime
It's really helpful, thank you
no problem
Awesome, thank you. Engine has seized, WD40 released it just like in your video and working like new. I was ready to take it for repair or buy a new one.
Glad it helped
Thanks this was my case with my Ryobi. I did not run the tank to dryness. Obviously varnish build up.
it happens sometimes even to me.
Thanks for you sharing this very important information, it really help..it truly works now..thanks again sir for you sharing this. information
no problem and thanks for you time here.
So... it seized up... followed step by step your video was great to get it going again. However, I have bigger problems as within 15 minutes of use, it seized again. Thanks for the in depth video!
Same thing happened to me. Did you fix it again?
Nice trimmer it looks almost new. Good Job on getting running without any parts.
Thanks hopefully I don't have to see it again next spring
Great video thanks
Thank you Bob Brocius
Great video I have one that just did this Friday and I'm going to try this to fix it if it works I will salvage the other 2 I have
I hope it works out for you
Yes, I had a customer bring me a small Chanpion generator that was full of very sticky stuff, Don't know what they used for oil but it was awful. Maybe they put cheap 2 cycle oil in a 4 stroke engine. Thanks for the video.
no problem Waterman one
Before storage, the manual for the Echo GT225 recommends: Observe the piston location through the spark plug hole. Pull the recoil handle slowly until the piston reaches the top of its travel and leave it there. Reinstall the spark plug but not the ignition lead". This might be a little extreme, but I've read many suggestions in manuals to rotate the engine until you can feel that you're solidly into the compression stroke, to close the valves and seal the combustion volume. Perhaps this would have helped here. Since I have an identical model, I'll pay a little more attention this autumn!
this is a great idea. I'm surprised that they would suggest that in the manual. I would only do this if i was going to put something up for a very long time. Thanks for the comment I appreciate it.
On a 4-stroke, like on a generator it's good to store them at TDC. That way both valves are closed. I have a 2.6K Onan that I have to store like that. An intake valve was stuck when I got it and the TDC has kept it ready to go since then.
Very helpful video 📹 👏 👍 👌 😀
Glad you think so!
Great 👌 ihave learnt something
Glad to hear that
I don't like leaving fuel in anything with carburetors so I usually run them out of fuel I just don't want it sitting in the carb and messing it up. my first thought was a stuck piston , I'm glad it was an easy fix for you ... I also wonder how many people throw out their equipment due to something like this 🤔
thank you Eric Richardson and who knows.
I notice my Craftsman WS 405 has its pull rope stuck too, and I guess it has something to do with the way I store the unit (hanging against the wall vertically, with the engine down). I guess this position may lead the engine oil to move and precipitate on the "back" and allow to dry and stuck parts within the engine. this vid allowed me to understand that the problem is NOT the Pull Rope, but actually the engine being stuck. ( I eventually saw the Craftsman WS 405 manual that says to store in a HORIZONTAL position). If this is your case, just place the unit on horizontal position (or tip slightly lower than engine), wait for 15-30 minutes, then try to start it = usually it will be FIXED!!!
you make a good point about the storage.
I cut the grass yesterday. The first two rounds were fine. After some time the machine stopped and I tried to pull the string to start but it stuck. Not sure what caused this but the motor was hot when I touch it. I have a different model but I will try to check following your video. Thanks for the clear & precise explanation! Great video!
take out the oil dipstick and wipe It clean, and then check the oil, it might be a little low.
@@HomeGaragechannel I followed your instruction but I didn't have a carburetor cleaner at the time. So I just sprayed oil inside that chamber and I tried turning the motor by hand. It's smooth. It worked! I used it but then it got stuck again after some time.
(That was before I saw your comment here) I will try next time regarding your comment. Thanks so much!!!
Thanks for the video. I did everything in the video and found my problem was 2 loose screws behind the impeller which made it hard to pull the cord.
nice catch
No I haven't had an engine jam up on me due to storage but I think someone has used too.much 2 stroke oil in the fuel at one stage in the line trimmer in the video because I think that's what's caused the cylinder to varnish up.
I was told not running a 2 stroke engine at full revs can cause that because all of the oil doesn't get burned off so it just sits in the combustion chamber then varnishes up the cylinder, piston & rings !
that makes sense.
7:05… the Saturday morning alarm clock in many neighborhoods
Good job . Drain the the petrol out of the machine if left for a month a month or two.
You're absolutely right about that. Thanks for the comment I appreciate it
Can’t forget to start it up a few times after as well to burn the left over fuel out
I drain the fuel out of my equipment when I put it up for the winte! Never have had a issue with it starting!
thank you James Aydelott.
Great job. Was this a "if you can get it running you can have it", or a repair and return? Super camera work. 👍
More like a $10 holler.
Unfortunately it was just a repair job. Thank you Dave for your time.
@@999thenewman 10 deposit. The equipment might not be worth that if you open it up lol another 10 for the work when completed. You have 30 days to pick it up or it’s mine.
Thanks. I have a Yard King that just stop in the middle of the job. Could be that I overwork by not have a few seconds of stop. I just cranked it and it stop. As illustrated here by you, I can’t pull the cord.
I will try your method and see what happen.
Thanks
no problem David and good luck
Yes it has; yesterday! The Echo 230 blower was locked up after sitting inside all it's life. It has NEVER been outside and never hardly in my drafty shed but in her side which is a storage building. I was going to blow leaves with it and noticing the choke was closed, started to pull it and it wouldn't budge. I knew it couldn't be broken so I kept increasing the pull on the recoil and directly it made a slow half turn . I eased it around for several pulls and then choked it and got serious after it got a shot of gas and freed up a lot. It popped on the 3rd pull and ran the next pull. I set it down and let it idle and after a minute I heard the tone change and I went to blowing leaves. It smoked a bit but cleaned out and did fine for the rest of the job here at home. It acts a dab lean on acceleration but I'm going to run it like that and see if more runtime will help richen it up. If not I'll look in the archives and find the low screw and give it a quarter. And I think it was stopped last with the choke and that's where the oily sticky stuff came from. Thanks and Blessings!
it's interesting that it did that, at least you were able to get it going again .
@@HomeGaragechannel It runs fine now but as you know, we're prone to see anything goofy!
The storage was a problem but all the carbon on the sparkplug seems to me that the owner never runs it hard enough to burn it off . my neighbor was using his 2 stroke barely above idle and i told him its a 2 stroke and you have to rev it up more or you will have problems and now he gives it a workout .
you are absolutely correct about that. as for how they were using it i'm not really sure.
Had a similar problem with both of my trimmers and both were kept inside. Could not rotate the engine with the plug in but rotated without the pug. So shot some carb cleaner and engine oil into the cyl and finally got it to rotate with plug installed. First time I ever experienced that symptom as I use these machines quit often. Also use a gas additive to prevent varnish. Thanks for the video but wished I had seen it first before attacking the problem. Not sure there are valves in these 2 cycle engines or reeds.
Neither as far as I can tell. Thanks for the comment I appreciate it
I'm in Florida so unfortunately nothing gets stored.
Have to mow once a week or every two weeks in the winter for only 4 months.
That definitely keeps all the gas fresh if you have to mow all the time. Thanks for the comment I appreciate it
You're good ..
I appreciate that
Thanks now can fix my srm 210sb
good luck
The spark plug was completely carbon fouled. 2-strokes are not made to idle, they are made to run wide open throttle as much as possible once warmed up.
You are correct about that. After running it for awhile the carbon was pretty much burned off and it ran great.
I have a landscape company and I’ve never seen this happen. I’ve cleaned the spark arrestors when I noticed a change in performance or choking, learn something new everyday I guess.
thank you Down To Earth Constructions
This is why the manuals tell you to put five drops of fresh oil into the engine and pull it over several times before storing it. Another way to do it is to use premixed engineered fuel in your machine and run it for 15 minutes before putting it away.
really? I've got to look that up, it makes sense!
Great videos, very well done and informative. Have you ever worked on an EFCO brand brush cutter? EFCO is an Italian brand and I’m having trouble finding videos for repair.
Unfortunately I have only seen EFCO products at the lawn equipment dealer but never in the wild.
@@HomeGaragechannel Thanks for the reply. Solid channel!!
@@islanddrivingtour thank you
Yes
Mine stopped mid way thru trimming the edges at My Grandparents House today, so Ill try this tomorrow and let You know how I got on.
please do, and thanks
I have this problem right now. I trash picked a Murray trimmer today with a stuck rope. I'll fix it and sell it.
that's a good idea.
Another great video sir. One question, lol did that cowling screw ever get tightened down all the way @ 4:44?
Hey I think you're right! I need to go tighten it, thanks!
Strange for such a nice new trimmer to get locked up!
yes it is a shame. i have an idea how it got to this situation but i have to wait and see if this happens again.
Hi,I want to thank you for the video,I had this problem with a blower, I just put W40,and turn it back and forth and it loosen the string right away,so I really appreciate the time you invested making this video,now I want to ask you if you have to remove the w40 before starting the engine or leave it inside?
thanks, and it's okay to leave it inside, it will eventually make its way out.
Well it wasn't locked up but I had a weed eater trimmer that was stored for a few months with 87 octane ethanol in it and the stuff turn to something equal to Play-Doh that was mixed with toothpaste.. after a can of carburetor cleaner for the gas tank and the carburetor itself, I was able to save it but the only casualty was the fuel lines had to be replaced with new because the ethanol packed into those skinny tubes just wasn't going to come out LOL that's why the manufacturer says not the use that stuff or it'll void the warranty🥴 I never store any of my power equipment with fuel in them anymore and I don't use anything but non-ethanol gas after that experience!
wow that's an amazing amount of damage to that trimmer. Glad you could save it.
Simply less work than take it apart ❤
Mine had the same issue the string was locked up I followed your steps & it cranked right up after about 10 pulls
Nice work. I'm glad it workout for you
Reason this happened was motor put away standing up on the engine with the string end up in the air. the motor was being used full throttle then switched off while keeping the trigger pulled, thus the engine got flooded with fuel.... then being left for a long period the fuel goes stale and the gasoline evaporates leaving this sticky gum residue that when it drys is real tough stuff ( if going to leave any motor for more than 5 weeks empty the tank and run motor dry of fuel or this can happen ).... if this happens to you dont do what he done, get some egr cleaner or get some engine carbon remover.. this little motor seems ok but the rings will not be perfectly free and will need a treatment of either Mercury power tune in a can or Yamaha ring free, it will then get in behind the ring and free the gum and varnish off it plus clean out any Varnish or carbon in the cylinder the head and the exhaust...... WD40 is terrible for stuff like this as its way too dry after a very short period.. you need proper anti gum/carbon stuff because this gummy varnish dont just dissapear, it need to get burnt out the motor.....do not use seafoam as that is rubbish and mainly water and can cause this stuff to be even worse and then need a full engine tear down..........
Thanks for the information
Yep left mine out in the rain like an idiot. Hopefully this fixes mine.
Hopefully so.
so what are ALL the tools am I going to need to do these things? I want to have everything I need before I start reparing stuff.
Phillips, flathead, full set of Toro, small socket set, and a drill gun of some sort.
I think the previous owner just ran out of 2 stroke oil and figured pancake syrup works just as good
lol!
I know a lot of people like Echo brand , but I've worked more these than anything else . I personally wouldn't buy one , I think it would be a mistake . Spend extra and buy a better brand - like Stihl brand or (Husqvarna which is my second choice ) . But too each your own .........Thanks for the video .....
Thank you for sharing your experience I appreciate it
What cleaner did you use? Like when you sprayed it in the engine and do you leave it in or drain it out?
just some cheap carb cleaner.
is it possible that a Echo tremor could be out of turning, because I got fire, I got gas and compression no start
I apologize but I'm sure what you're asking, Echo tremor.. out of turning?
Someone needs to use a different 2 stroke oil, it not doing its job fully. Storage protection is also part of a OPE oil job. Does the oil used on that trimmer say Biodegradable on the front of the container?
i'm not sure about that information. I'll have to ask
no because the feul evapourates leaving the oil behind causing it to stick can also stick the diaphrams to gether making it unusable sometimes having to clean out the carb and replacing the diaphrams this one was lucky
You are absolutely correct
@@HomeGaragechannel when you get a chance will you look at my comment and see if you have a suggestion I just posted it
I need help.
I have a echo srm 225.
The primer bulb only works if the return line is literally submerged in the fuel. Should it be like that?
Cause if im not mistaken the return line comes originally as a short line.
You are absolutely it shouldn't have to be submerged in the fuel for it to work. I would replace the carb.
Are you sure some hoses are not mixed up? On a 2 stroke Echo and most modern 2 stroke OPE engines it is a purge bulb not a primer. All it does is remove air in the fuel line between the tank and the carb. No fuel is pumped into the engine when a purge bulb is pressed.
mines just really aggressive and when it does try to start the string flings back agaist it real quick and it shuts off
interesting, I wondering if the timing is off or if there's an issue with the recoil?
What can I use to clean the carburettor debris..
2T or 4T oil or petrol...???
I would use petrol because of availability