Still completely baffling to me that the Darksaber, arguably this season's main focus, was handed over to Bo due to a TECHNICALITY, which was only addressed several episodes later, when it became convenient for the plot.
A technicality could be something like this: "who has the darksaber will rule Mandalore", it sounds cool but is actually very stupid and lazy writing, so getting rid of it was necessary, well done.
By this technicality, then Rey should have the Dark Saber (if it wasn't destroyed). Palp defeated Maul. Luke was the only one to walk away from the DSII scuffle between himself, Vader, and Palp. Kylo defeated Luke. Rey beats Kylo. Darth Empress Rey Palpatine-Skywalker, The Mandalore
I think the intention is to make it clear that the dark saber is ultimately pointless and an obstacle to Mandalorian unification. But it's just...weird
@@tacticalidiots2340 maybe, but I think is more like an intended evolution to the typical Hollywood story, always centered on epic magical stuff and not on people.
Should have kept BOBF Boba centered and made S3 with the main plot around Mando's quest for atonement and him missing Grogu, while a subplot focusing on Grogu's training with Luke, trauma surrounding Order 66 and him choosing to return. Make the reunion as a season final pay-off. And then, made S4 about recapturing Mandalore, with its politics as a subplot, instead of an episode's main plot.
I said the same thing when they had the reunion in Book of Boba it completely ruined everything because we never had a chance to miss Dinn and Grogu being together they couldn’t even wait for Mando’s show I guess toy sales matter most
@@jamiegodfather Selling the merch was always the final goal in SW, though Disney seems to have the MCU issue: a lot of products, tight timetables and basically, the same people involved. With the exception of Andor, where fresh blood was brought in. And it shows...
You could've dedicated an entire season to Mando rejecting the dogma of the Watch (something HEAVILY foreshadowed in S2) and Grogu rejecting the dogma of the Jedi before reuniting them.
I think Andor really opened people’s eyes to what a Star Wars show can be when it really tries to be something more, so the fact that Mandalorian is still clinging to it’s comfort zone is just no longer as impressive as it used to be.
It’s not even clinging to a comfort zone. This and season one are completely different shows tonality. One feels like live action clone wars. The arcs and dialogue both make it feel that way.
@@thegoldman25 I agree that not every show needs to be like Andor but in some aspects it really must be. Just in a general sense. Andor had great acting, writing, and pacing what, tbh is something I expect from every show. Mando season 3 had some great visual FX but at the same time the Imperial base in the last 2 episodes for me felt super plastic and fake. Also Andor is more realistic then any star wars content we ever seen what definitely shouldnt be the standard for Star Wars. But sometimes if feel that a realistic moment or a good/real conversation can really help in Mando. Most conversations and interactions have become super surface level and really doesnt work.
@@franzferdinand5810That’s because Andor barely had any action scenes, and the few that were there were just between basic dudes with guns, not a Mandalorian or a Jedi or something. Which means that they knew they had to rely on their dialogue to keep people interesting, which resulted in the dialogue being pretty damn amazing
@@littleoldmanboy At first, I thought the dialogue was mind-numbing when you watch it, but as I continue to dwell deep in it, I get the picture, and I totally agree with you.
Late but I thought season 3 would be about Din and the fact the Darksaber would make him the ruler of mandalore, he's made it clear multiple times he has no interest in being a leader/ruler so I thought it would be interesting to see Din's internal struggles of missing Grogu and begrudgingly but slowly becoming the leader his people need.
Am I crazy or is it partial Bo's fault that they lost Mandalore? She destabilised her sister's rule, got her killed and had the planet conquered by Maul. Why would anyone follow her?
This is probably my favorite video about this season. That line of “it’s not my job to be invested, that’s down to the storytellers” is something I literally said to my friends while watching this season.
I think you honestly just didn't get it. You have to be invested in the larger entire world of star wars and all its characters to find this season interesting. You have to understand the big picture of the gaps it's filling in, in the overall timeline of the starters universe and the political history going on. It requires fans to actually have watched all the other films too.
@@jessicamessica2271 I have seen all the films, and all the shows. I love the star wars universe and loved the first two seasons of mando. But this season fails to tell an emotionally investing story. At that point how it advances the “bigger picture” doesn’t matter that much to me.
@Nexus_Edge I found it compelling. I loved it personally. For me, it was emotional watching Din risk his life to travel to mandelor to rejoin his tribe. I also found it emotionally compelling to see Bo Katan meet with Dins tribe and begin to clear her own name as a former ruler. She wasn't as bad as the rumors made her out to be. I do think it was a little to much Bo Katan in the show, and it would be nice to have more Din.Alot of people seem to be mad it put her in position of leadership of mandelor rather than Din. But she did save his life twice, so I think it was fair for him to give her the sabot. Also retaking mandelor was originally her plan in season 2, not Dins, so they would have to work that out somehow. Idk I loved it personally. I don't get it.
When I was watching season 3, I kept asking myself “why do I feel a little disappointed? It’s doing what I want. It’s focusing on the mandalorians, all of them.” And I realized it just felt sloppy and very distracted. And why is Greef surprised that not paying pirates who you borrowed money from leads to disaster and the people don’t call him out. Grogu should’ve just been with Luke and we see his progress. And for some reason, a lot of the stunts and effects look really cheap. The Bad batch out did it and I enjoyed it more than mando. What happened?
My biggest gripe is that for Bo Katan basically being the main character, she doesn't progress from where she was last seen in Mando S2, coming to terms with her not being the one with the right to reunite Mandalore, but instead goes from depressed due to her failures to REGRESSING back to her her characterization in Rebels and Clone Wars where she feels entitled by her blood right to leadership of her people and regains that right due to technicality. She could have come to terms with the fact that she's really not suited to seizing the Mandalore system, which she's basically just bungled since the middle of the Clone Wars or like 20 years in canon, and leveraged that in an advisory role to Din who really felt like her earned that right even if he didn't necessarily want it. Instead they opted to ignore her experience and threw the legendary weapon away unceremoniously.
My brother and I love star wars, we love getting into deep conversations about it, I felt the same way you did, especially with the regression of "it's my blood that must reclaim-" topic of Bo. Yet my brother didn't see it that way, & it was a verbal fight for a hour 🤣 glad to see someone saw what I did, it's vital criticisms that are very valid!!
The season did show us that Grogu is growing and getting more and more independent (he even managed to save Din on his own at the end) so there is that at least.
The ending of this season felt like an end to the show and mandalore’s story. There’s supposed to be a season 4 but I feel like you can end this show here since Gideon is dead, Mandalore is reclaimed and the Mandalorians are united. Sure there’s going to be a build up to Filoni’s movie but I just personally feel like this show can end things here and Din, Grogu and Bo Katan can appear in other projects as supporting characters. I’m just not sure what a season 4 can bring to the table outside of cute baby yoda moments and fighting Imperials.
While you are definitely correct I feel like season four is opening the door to the heir of the empire movie which will prominently featured Grogu and the Mandalorian
@@CyberSonic-V3.0 I'm of two minds about it because...yeah Star Wars has had too many fakeout deaths, but bringing Gideon back just to kill him in such a lame way is bizarre to me
By FAR my biggest problem with this season was that I did not like Boka Tan. She's stubborn, egotistical and annoying when she's on screen. And the worst part? She never had character growth. Instead of finally accepting that the darksaber doesn't belong to her or something along those lines, perhaps a character arc or something, she just gets her ego fulfilled and is just as boring as she was prior. I would have rather seen the darksaber lost, broken, stolen, or destroyed prior to her finally obtaining it. It would bring more clarity and relatability to her character, rather than the "oh she beat the thing that jumped me while I was off-guard". Just imagine her chasing the darksaber after it had fallen off a cliff, or desperately scrambling to repair it - some kind of struggle would have been far more compelling and entertaining.
I would rather have seen the Gideon clones waking up and beating the shit out of Din and Bo using the force and then have that scene with Axe Woves crashing the ship killing them all and Grogu protecting them from the fire than having them die the way they did
Why would there have to be some big goodbye seen at the end? In this story alone they visit everyone several times. The second season ended with Mando thinking he wouldn’t see Grogu again while here he just decides to live in a planet away from the Mandalorians. The only goodbye scene needed was for Paz and his kid. He ignores orders for his kid and that should’ve been the case in the end with him doing it mainly for his kid or asking for them to look after his kid.
The problem with the Disney approach of naming properties is that every one is named after a specific character. Had Ep. 4 come out today, it would be called "Luke Skywalker". They should have named it "A New World" or something and allowed it to be different seasons focusing on different characters, and some characters pop in and out from time to time. Then we could negate the criticism "This episode isn't about the Mandalorian. This is filler!"
Remember this is a warrior race. As kids theyre already in helmets. Some learning to use the jetpack. Youre not going to get alot of character from people who only know war. That why i understand bringing grogu back. Hes comical and emotional relief.
Something that seemed so obvious which is crazy they didn’t do is Moff Gideon being defeated by the mythosaur symbolically being rejected and defeated by the mandalorian culture
Every Mando Episode Ranked: 24: Chapter 19: The Convert 23: Chapter 22: Guns For Hire 22: Chapter 5: The Gunslinger 21: Chapter 17: The Apostate 20: Chapter 10: The Passenger 19: Chapter 2: The Child 18: Chapter 20: The Foundling 17: Chapter 9: The Marshall 16: Chapter 11: The Heiress 15: Chapter 1: The Mandalorian 14: Chapter 18: The Mines of Mandalore 13: Chapter 4: Sanctuary 12: Chapter 24: The Return 11: Chapter 15: The Believer 10: Chapter 6: The Prisoner 9: Chapter 21: The Pirate 8: Chapter 3: The Sin 7: Chapter 7: The Reckoning 6: Chapter 13: The Jedi 5: Chapter 23: The Spy 4: Chapter 12: The Seige 3: Chapter 8: Redemption 2: Chapter 14: The Tragedy 1: Chapter 16: The Rescue
I feel cheated out of a space battle. I thought we'd be seeing a huge battle for Mandalore both planetside and in space. That LEGO set made me think we'd see fighters take on interceptors, with infantry hijacking ships mid-flight. I wanted to see imperial cruisers go head-to-head.
First season: keep kid save Second season: bring kid home while keeping him save Third season: go bathing, side quest on corusant, do another side quest.
I think the biggest let down for me with this season was the inconsistency. The ending itself was decent and definitely wholesome, but I just wish the actual season had been more enjoyable. The plot was all over the place and it felt like we left off things that were supposed to be important such as IG-11, the Mythosaur, and the Darksaber. Instead we were having dinner parties with Jack Black! Din and Grogu also being sidelined for Bo-Katan pissed me off as well because Bo-Katan is supposed to get her own show later, yet it felt like she took the spotlight in season 3 of Mando’s show. I really believe there was a lot of potential this season, but instead the first 6 episodes just felt like a massive waste of time. Definitely a disappointing season overall which is honestly depressing because the show itself really is good.
My biggest gripe is Sabine I guess gave up on Mandalore completely despite her being the last representative of clan Wren. Yeah yeah her character is being pooped on currently but we didn’t know that during Mando S3…
The Mandalorian Season 1-2, The Book of Boba Fett and The Mandalorian Season 3 were the first arc of the New Republic storyline, hence why the "ending" vibes to Season 3. Ahsoka, Skeleton Crew, The Mandalorian Season 4 and others will be the next arc, the Thrawn Campaign as i like to call.
I appreciate that you ended the video on an optimistic note for the Disney Star Wars era. It felt so refreshing compared to all the negativity and hate it receives.
I think season 3 was allready being made but kathy Kennedy got angry that their big money maker was gone so he was just randomly added in make sense why it didn't focused on him
It’s pretty apparent the writers room had no idea what to do with this season from beginning to end. This entire season felt like filler. It’s also pretty clear that this show is slowly being morphed into the “retcon show” to make the sequels make sense.
Says “I freaked out when Zeb had a cameo, because I love rebels.” Then at 19:14 “I couldn’t give a s**t that they referenced Count Dooku.” I usually like this guy for giving everything Star Wars a fair shot, and if his opinion is taken into account he usually admits that. But here it’s just clear opinion and complete bias.
idk how any of this works but this shouldn’t happen. like didn’t the episodes get approved by many ppl? how did nobody speak up saying “what’s the theme of this season?” or questions of why
Grogu adds the kid element they need to capitalize on the younger audience, and for those moments when you need to throw a character in harms way for the "epic" battle. Sure, they could have made them complete mercenaries but the executives that fund these things like the family connection premise. Personally I think Star Wars needs to loose all of it's cannon and just use those wonderful set designers and artists and do a story completely not related to cannon at all, how about a whole new galaxy to explore, rather than tediously trying to tie every story together so it all fits.
While I generally agree with you about this season , I strongly disagree that Grogu is not an important component of this season. True, it is not an active role but he has always been (problematically)not a character as much as he is an object of value. But object or being, Din loves Grogu and he is rootless without (more arguably than being a Mandalorian). This season is awful but it is not a season about 5he retaking of Mandalore as much as it is about Din wanting to create a home for safe home for Grogu. Just a quibble, but he needs to be there.
THANK YOU. I ALSO THOUGHT THE SEASON WAS GONNE BE ABOUT DJINN QUESTIONING HIS CLAN. I was honestly disappointed when the series pivoted away from that.
i think the importance of the darksaber arc to mando is that he has essentially been trying to shirk the responsibility of it without having it known that he is doing so. When he duels vizla it is more an answer to a challenge than any desire to keep the blade. Even bo seems shocked at the use of the technicality, but she has always been one to pounce at a chance for influence and power and so accepts the premise. I hope that there becomes an arc where he works on this, but.. who knows
I like your star wars takes. It's really fresh and reminds us the franchise is really not uptight as the fans try to make it out to be. Great video man
Would love to know what you think if Disney went on to do six episode shorts like Tales of the Jedi with other concepts. 1. Tales of the Jedi (season 2) 2. Tales of the Sith 3. Stories from the Bounty Hunter Guild 4. Stories from Clone Commanders. The last one I came up with when we met Mayday in Bad Batch. Plus, Clone Wars fans could get continued Clone stories from ones we haven’t met or casual run into from existing stories.
9:36 Also to note: a rule that was never mentioned in any of the previous appearances. Maul claimed it as a trophy because it was a uniting symbol, not because it was an actual rule. In rebels the Darksaber was given to Bo Katan after it was stolen by Sabine from Maul. No rule then. It was only a rule for that specific scene.
The only way the whole Gideon cloning trash would be justified is if it was all a distraction from Hux's dad's "Project Necromancer" (smt related to reviving Palpatine or making Snoke), making it seem that all the midichlorians went to making Sith-Gideon troopers to the New Republic
The final two episodes had way too many moments that made absolutely no logic. - Gideon doesn`t kill Din Djarin, but escort him with two (!!) troopers. - Gideon somehow has a tracking device on both Din Djarin and Grogu. He sees exactly where they are and he couldn`t give a fuck less that they are getting close to his clones, yet appears very angry and shocked, after something that he could have stopped, happens. - ...and this is a minor one, I guess, but Moff Gideon destroys Bo Katan`s dark saber, by clinching his fist, yet Bo Katan`s hand, which he was crushing as well, at the same time, is completely ok.
He doesn't have a tracking device specifically on Mando and Grogu, rather it's technology that enables you to see things and people, similar to a security camera or radar.
IMO third season is one big mess. I thought after parting with Grogu and being banished from his clan he would have to overcome his reluctance to lead and use previous character development to take responsibility as head of state for Mandalore, that taking back the planet would be hard and it will require building alliances and resolving conflicts (like with Bo-Katan, who wants the sabre). Instead they undone all the progress to sell more merch, and had no idea what to do with titular characters of the show. No wonder Pedro Pascal didn't even bother to come on set most of the time.
Something I just realized is that seasons 1 and 2 are very character-driven but season 3 was plot-driven which could have worked if they actually focused on the plot and if the plot was interesting. The problem is that it’s not even the same show.
In general, I love Star Wars. There are always moments that could be more, in TV or Movies (I never saw the animated shows) but overall, it is a great escape from the craziness of life. The Mandalorian is the 'family' show. Andor is the 'mature' show. Boba is... variety? Haha. Truthfully, I like them all equally. I am looking forward to Ahsoka, since I never saw Clone Wars and would like to learn more about her. I especially am eager to watch more of Andor. I hope Boba and Obi-Wan get a season 2, as I really enjoyed those shows as well. With the announcement of Rey having a film in the future, I am just very grateful for all the fun Star Wars content. I am just a TV/Movie goer, but there are books, comics, cartoons, video games etc. Star Wars is one of the best franchises as there really is something for everyone, of any person, out there to enjoy, get into, and relate. Star Wars is just really cool, man! Love your videos, Gold Man. I enjoy hearing your discussions on our Galaxy far, far, away....
Hey @The Gold Man, can you might do a video on "What The Rise of Skywalker did better than The Mandalorian Season 3" and cover some aspects on what The Rise of Skywalker did way better than The Mandalorian Season 3 had by comparing them? I still love The Rise of Skywalker better than The Mandalorian in general.
My thoughts: The whole technicality of the exchange of the saber between Jarin and Katan was set up visually pretty well in that spider droid episode (I even remember thinking to myself, oh it's hers now). It also hammers home how bs the whole concept is (further hammered home by the actual destruction of the saber), but also how Jarin is aware of and accepting of the others' customs. Honestly reminded me of what Tony Stark told Peter Parker: "If you're nothing without the suit, then you shouldn't have it." Also I'm pretty sure the stinger at the end of season 2 literally says, "The Mandalorian will return in The Book of Boba Fett."
9:58 this is exactly what I thought (and hoped) would happen. But looking back and seeing the lack in quality this season had, it honestly doesn't surprise me anymore that they didn't do it
Imo, this season lacked too much on the emotional side, and relied on too many convenient plots to keep it going. It kind of felt like a big slideshow with only plot bits, no story nor character work. Honestly, I'm baffled how uniterested Favroni are in Din, Din is not just Grogu's sidekick, he is part of what we love about this series. Unlike characters like say, Anakin in Phantom Menace who is only a kid and has hardly much to give to the story, Din's probably in his 40's and has SO much story behind him!!! Why does he love the creed so much? How was he raised?? (the Din we know and love came from their upbringing), did he have a mandalorian father? or maybe he was never formally adopted and hence had some kind of hesitation over formally adopting Grogu? Maybe his mandalorian father died like Bo Katan's and he never got to see his face and thus wanted Grogu to see his before saying goodbye?. Why does he know Tusken language? how is he so good with other cultures???. Din is super interesting but the story has no idea how to write him, not even in the season ABOUT MANDALORE. Even with Din finally adopting Grogu, as much as I loved it, it felt kind of out of nowhere just for the clean slate finale. All the set up from S2? gone or fixed on a whim, and it's not that I dislike fun, I love camp, I would have even been on board with Lizzo and Jack Black but like you said in the video, the story was so boring and numb, and that lack of focus on Din is felt even more cuz the episode could have been a GREAT chance to explore his trauma towards droids, but instead we just see him hating them like in S1? Seriously? no reaction to the DROIDS WHO KILLED HIS PARENTS? he just starts kicking them?. It's so disappointing how little they care about Din as a character. He redeemed himself by the second episode (and I don't mind if he wants to belong cuz some individuals just have faith as part of their lives) and then played side kick who had to be constantly rescued. Din was the perfect vehicle for the audience to learn more about Mandalore, cuz he knew as little as we did about the other factions, but no, instead we got the same arc for Bo Katan for the third time, and she lost all her personality and what made her intriguing in the process, never acknowledging her past mistakes and failures (like when she admitted she surrendered to Gideon and none of the Mandos were bothered in the slightest, when they obviously weren't told the plans of surrender). Same with the children of the watch being written so incompetent in Jurassic Park for Bo to show leadership skills...all bc she had a ship and they didn't? I guess they took the space bus there? And are u telling me they Never tried to hunt that damn bird? (am I the only one who laughed at how they "ran out of fuel" by pursuing a bird for a few miles but Axe had enough fuel to GET INTO ORBIT AND THEN SCAPE THE FALLING SHIP? KAJHDKJA). Rlly, so baffling writing choices, no wonder people thought the armorer was suspicious! she changed her mind re Bo so randomly! Despite calling her a cautionary tale in book of Boba... It feels like the mythosaur was just a excuse to make the superstitious leader think Bo is a chosen one or smth!, when a conflict between them would have been SO much more interesting... And idk but Din showing 0 emotions through the season was very annoying too, he only had them with Grogu, but hello? Bo Katan is calling you a religious zealot who sucks and is to blame for the destruction of Mandalore (when it was her fault lmao) and he doesn't care? She also never apologizes for treating them like shit to then be proven wrong by being welcomed with open arms? IT'S SO WEIRD HOW NO ONE IN THE SEASON TALKED NOTHING BUT PLOT (and imo the fact that Din rarely spoke to anyone but Bo shows just how little chemistry they had, sure the dialogue was bad but at least there's banter with Peli or Cara, partnership with Greef or Cobb, etc, with Bo all interactions were contrived and boring except for the out of nowhere speech of "I'll serve you until your song is written (sorry Din but the song was written...many times...and it wasn't a hit)" that is great in a vacuum, but then Din simply leaves the planet once they take it back lol I guess the song was written??. At least with Boba I felt something when Din said they'd go down together, he had nothing to lose anymore after being told he should never see Grogu again so it made sense he was willing to die. My only theory is that they're stretching out the plot so it fits better the thrawn movie they're setting up, cuz all the set up in S2 was dropped go return us to S1 status. I feel like they'll give Din's arc of leadership for that movie instead (cuz why else show how good he is at making different factions work together? And his understanding of other cultures? It'd be so weird if it leads nowhere, tho at this point I better not expect anything lol). This season's biggest failure besides the uniterest in Din and Grogu is that it made Mandalore SO uninteresting...we got one more named Mandalorian this season...one. The other named one? gone (and they didn't even fucking mourn him kajshdkja). I've asked my non hardcore-Star-Wars-fan friends and they were SO done, only kept watching for Grogu and Din, and they're so happy the season ended with them both going on adventures again, ready to leave Mandalore behind, and that's just...not good, whoever thinks we will get a Bo Katan show now is being very generous, general audiences won't care about such a show, I assure you ñ_n. Anyway...sorry for the long rant, this season has lots of good ideas on paper but hardly explored any of it, which is a damn shame.
1:17 there are people that don't like the bad batch?! its easily one of my top shows. it so beautifully tells the story of the lives of veterans who get discarded by their government while answering the question of what happened to the clones.
15:44 I don't necessarily disagree with your criticisms, but can see an issue cropping up from Star Trek as well. There are often filler episodes that are palmed off to us as a slice of life or a focus on a supporting character for one episode. Apparently this adds richness to the whole thing, or you get a bunch of credulous fans who actually love Trouble with Tribbles the most out of ToS, but not me. Once you've watched all of ToS as often as I have, those episodes can be all the harder to sit through, but seemingly it's a part of the whole series format. Good and bad writers emerge, maybe a DC Fontana has to step in and save a particularly weak script. I agree that these were not issues in the first series, but they start to creep in with series 2 and now in series 3 are in full view. Stuff going on outside the series, such as cancellations generating filler episodes or general writer confusion, editorial mandates or studio interference, viewer feedback, let alone strikes can all come into play and affect any series. Should we put up with avoidable mediocrity, of course not, but this does seem to crop up often in a TV episodic format, even ones with movie production values, such as with Twin Peaks.
this season felt more like a Clone Wars plot than "The Mandalorian". Which was fine, I enjoyed it enough, but it felt like it lost a bit of the initial magic of the series
Completely agree on the fact that the season was almost concluding and I still had no idea what the actual story was meant to be about. This season was so lousy and such a let down, unbelievable how Disney have killed the show just to cash grab off of grogu
Star Ttek guy is back. I'm not sure what show you Star Wars guys were watching but season 3 was the right way to go with this series and actually extended its life by finishing up the season 2 storyline and reestablishing at the end the lone bounty hunter and kid premise. Did Mando take a back sit in season 3 yes. But you established that the New Republic isn't all that good. You got an inside man handler in Capt Teva that will get Mando and the Kid a new adventure every week. Remember this is not network TV or syndication you don't have 26 episodes per season to tell a story. After JJ TREK and Star Discovery you Star War fan definitely shouldn't be complaining about the Mandalorian.
I never watched bobf and at the beginning of season 3 I had no idea what was going on. I had to go back and check that season 2 ended how I remembered because I was just confused thinking "........isn't he with luke? why is he with mando?"
I feel that our expectations are now spoiling the experience. I loved the season, I’m not sure if it’s what people think should happen that make them think that the season was poorly done, but I would argue it’s on par with the previous ones. Whilst I don’t want to go into too much detail, I would say that previous season had a novelty factor but if we were truly to analyse them there was a lot of silliness and supposedly weird episodes, and weird character pivots. The same goes for Clone Wars and Rebels. Having said that, I still love all of these shows and accept them as the overall story that is being told. The only Star Wars product I will never accept are the sequels. There’s not much redemption there which is why I hope the characters and those involved in set design, VFC etc will get another spin in a reset/alternate time but time will tell. I really did try to give them a chance, but to me they’re simply unwatchable. At least the shows have more or less definitive ending so one can just finish at the point they wish to finish and pretend like the rest never happened. One point on Grogu, I disagree that there was no character development. For one you have to look at him as 3 year old child that operates on instinct and perception. He is becoming more trusting, he’s becoming more assertive in his actions as well. On that note, my question here is, what would be a character development for a 3 year old? I think them treading carefully makes a lot more sense then all of a sudden seeing Grogu having moral and existential crisis.
You’re right it wasn’t great, it was amazing, I feel like I’m one of the only diehard fans that have been with Star Wars my whole life left, I love everything even the sequels, they may be the worst but I still rewatch them sometimes
Din didn't go to Bo-Katan for no reason. She knew where the Living Waters on Mandalore were, he went there to ask her. This began her character arc, which was then continued when she went to rescue Mando, sees the Mythosaur, becomes a Child of the Watch, shows them she is still a capable leader, and shows the Armorer it's time to reunite the separate Mandalorian clans. Would you rather The Armorer have stated "We must unite our clans and retake Mandalore" in the first couple episodes? She still believed the planet was cursed & thought of Bo-Katan as nothing more than a cautionary tale. This is what the season was about: coming together despite their differences and retaking Mandalore, showing that it's not about whether you take your helmet off or wield the Darksaber, it's about whether or not you stick together as a family, despite your differences.
One point on the darksaber, we have Ezra returning to the galaxy now and the possibility of Huyang’s return, who likely witnessed and guided the creation of the darksaber, there’s the potential for its repair - perhaps if Huyang and Sabine return, the mandalorian Jedi with an ancestral claim on the blade as a member of house visla (clan wren), as she hasn’t made a lightsaber herself, perhaps they’re hiring at the reclaiming of the darksaber from Bo
So nice to see someone give this series the critique that it deserves. I swear to god every time I was on Reddit 90% of the comments were “The newest episode is literally perfect 10/10”
3:22 I disagree, Boba Fett's inclusion in Mando s2 was natural especially after his tease in season 1, it wasn't a surprise for superfans who recognized his spur sound bite. Bo-Katan and her appearance in S2 was the real mistake.
I'm just gonna say as cool as the darksaber is I much prefer the helm of mandalore being a symbol of leadership rather than a jedi weapon. Yes it was made by a mandalorian jedi, but it just feels wrong. It isn't a weapon based in their culture. Yeah, a lightsaber is cooler than a helmet, but what that helmet means is so cool especially if you have played kotor 2 or read kotor themed comics. It has more cultural significance especially when you consider how the mandalorians in this show put so much emphasis on keeping their helmets on. Idk the darksaber just feels like fan service, and as signature weapon for Djinn I much preferred the beskar spear or his rifle. We don't get to see someone fight with a spear that often, especially in star wars, so having that just made him feel unique, but this is star wars and every main protagonist has to have a lightsaber(yeah i know there shows/movies that dont do this, but it is definitely not the majority).
I watched this video & it’s funny how he basically is showing & proofing to the whole wide world that he kind of likes it but he is too stupid to understand it. He doesn’t see that everything that they do has purpose. Just like how he likes the sequels but he doesn’t get that either. I know this because I’ve seen his videos on the sequels too. Unfortunately for fans this is the common case scenario with critic you tube channels. They love with all their hearts criticizing Star Wars because it is a big target JUST TO GET MORE VIEWS BECAUSE OF THE CONTROVERSY THEY CREATE. They don’t care to try too think & figure it out. Critics are the laziest people… If you watch this video be prepared to get a bunch worthless opinions that doesn’t make anything better. When I watched season 3 a second time, I liked it even more. Lucky me I guess… poor golden boy…
I hated in episode 6 how they CLEARLY SHOW that you can challenge another Mandalorian to a duel to the point of yielding instead of to the death. Bo could have fought Din in a non lethal duel and we’d get something with actual drama and stakes instead of “oh, she beat some monster that beat me you dorks didn’t see”
It was good enough; it obviously had a crutch thanks to Boba Fett. However it did manage to make some entertaining episodes. The action was still good, the special effects were still awesome, and none of the episodes (save maybe one of them) were awful.
Spectacular, stupendous. A turd storyline polished up with CGI and "Action". You are the quintessential Star Wars fan. But I'm glad you found some enjoyable moments.
@@jamiemunn9200 Despite the sarcastic insult. I’ll still take the ‘compliment’ you made at the end. Plus I would essentially agree with you anyway. If you said the third season of this show was the worst one.
About chapter 6, I believe if it wasn’t a filler about a conspiracy but about a real droid revolution it would’ve been at least useful, maybe using the contrast of the droids will of independence with Mando’s backstory, to make him learn something with the episode, to make his character grow…just not to throw an episode in the WC like that
I'm just kinda tired of Star Wars at the moment, and that sucks as a fan. I think Season 3 overall was pretty good, but it had moments that either didn't belong or should have been in its own show. However, I think my biggest problem this season is how it didn't take any risks. The mythosaur? Still asleep. Mandalore? Retaken in 2 episode. Any conflicts between the clans reuniting? Couple scenes of chess and its resolved. Honestly, I can see myself hanging up my hat on this finale if season 4 is canceled or is super bad. I'm disappointed but at the same time satisfied. I want something radically different and hopefully Ahsoka is it.
I read somewhere that Favreau and Filoni both pitched different Mandalorian centred shows and KK suggested they work together and "The Mandalorian" was born. I wonder if they began with the narrower "Lone Wolf and Cub" Mando + Grogu, which was Favreau's and now they're pivoting to the wider Bo Katan, Thrawn and the New Republic story which is more Filoni's. The "Lone Wolf and Cub" is a pretty limited concept especially when the hero rarely shows his face and the sidekick is a puppet that can't talk - so there's no harming in doing that pivot and having another lead who actually shows her face (you might say she replaced having a bunch of one off or recurring characters, like Bill Burr's Migs Mayfeld who come in carry an episode then go), but they really failed to pull off the pivot.
Still completely baffling to me that the Darksaber, arguably this season's main focus, was handed over to Bo due to a TECHNICALITY, which was only addressed several episodes later, when it became convenient for the plot.
I totally agree, strange decision
A technicality could be something like this: "who has the darksaber will rule Mandalore", it sounds cool but is actually very stupid and lazy writing, so getting rid of it was necessary, well done.
By this technicality, then Rey should have the Dark Saber (if it wasn't destroyed). Palp defeated Maul. Luke was the only one to walk away from the DSII scuffle between himself, Vader, and Palp. Kylo defeated Luke. Rey beats Kylo.
Darth Empress Rey Palpatine-Skywalker, The Mandalore
I think the intention is to make it clear that the dark saber is ultimately pointless and an obstacle to Mandalorian unification. But it's just...weird
@@tacticalidiots2340 maybe, but I think is more like an intended evolution to the typical Hollywood story, always centered on epic magical stuff and not on people.
Should have kept BOBF Boba centered and made S3 with the main plot around Mando's quest for atonement and him missing Grogu, while a subplot focusing on Grogu's training with Luke, trauma surrounding Order 66 and him choosing to return. Make the reunion as a season final pay-off. And then, made S4 about recapturing Mandalore, with its politics as a subplot, instead of an episode's main plot.
Yeppers
I said the same thing when they had the reunion in Book of Boba it completely ruined everything because we never had a chance to miss Dinn and Grogu being together they couldn’t even wait for Mando’s show I guess toy sales matter most
@@jamiegodfather Selling the merch was always the final goal in SW, though Disney seems to have the MCU issue: a lot of products, tight timetables and basically, the same people involved. With the exception of Andor, where fresh blood was brought in. And it shows...
You could've dedicated an entire season to Mando rejecting the dogma of the Watch (something HEAVILY foreshadowed in S2) and Grogu rejecting the dogma of the Jedi before reuniting them.
@@B463L It's not late to do that, since Bo Kataan reunited all clans.
I think Andor really opened people’s eyes to what a Star Wars show can be when it really tries to be something more, so the fact that Mandalorian is still clinging to it’s comfort zone is just no longer as impressive as it used to be.
I don't want every show to be like andor, but every show has something to learn from Andor
It’s not even clinging to a comfort zone. This and season one are completely different shows tonality. One feels like live action clone wars. The arcs and dialogue both make it feel that way.
@@thegoldman25 I agree that not every show needs to be like Andor but in some aspects it really must be. Just in a general sense. Andor had great acting, writing, and pacing what, tbh is something I expect from every show. Mando season 3 had some great visual FX but at the same time the Imperial base in the last 2 episodes for me felt super plastic and fake. Also Andor is more realistic then any star wars content we ever seen what definitely shouldnt be the standard for Star Wars. But sometimes if feel that a realistic moment or a good/real conversation can really help in Mando. Most conversations and interactions have become super surface level and really doesnt work.
@@franzferdinand5810That’s because Andor barely had any action scenes, and the few that were there were just between basic dudes with guns, not a Mandalorian or a Jedi or something. Which means that they knew they had to rely on their dialogue to keep people interesting, which resulted in the dialogue being pretty damn amazing
@@littleoldmanboy At first, I thought the dialogue was mind-numbing when you watch it, but as I continue to dwell deep in it, I get the picture, and I totally agree with you.
Late but I thought season 3 would be about Din and the fact the Darksaber would make him the ruler of mandalore, he's made it clear multiple times he has no interest in being a leader/ruler so I thought it would be interesting to see Din's internal struggles of missing Grogu and begrudgingly but slowly becoming the leader his people need.
That and potential conflict between Din and Bo over the Darksaber
Grogu's asassin droid mech is the kind of thing I would make while playing with action figures
Agreed
@@thegoldman25 mandalorian season 3 should be a guide on "how to make taking back your homeland as boring as possible"
Am I crazy or is it partial Bo's fault that they lost Mandalore? She destabilised her sister's rule, got her killed and had the planet conquered by Maul. Why would anyone follow her?
Good question.
This is probably my favorite video about this season. That line of “it’s not my job to be invested, that’s down to the storytellers” is something I literally said to my friends while watching this season.
It's a great quote hahaha, thanks for watching!
I think you honestly just didn't get it. You have to be invested in the larger entire world of star wars and all its characters to find this season interesting. You have to understand the big picture of the gaps it's filling in, in the overall timeline of the starters universe and the political history going on.
It requires fans to actually have watched all the other films too.
@@jessicamessica2271 I have seen all the films, and all the shows. I love the star wars universe and loved the first two seasons of mando. But this season fails to tell an emotionally investing story. At that point how it advances the “bigger picture” doesn’t matter that much to me.
@Nexus_Edge I found it compelling. I loved it personally. For me, it was emotional watching Din risk his life to travel to mandelor to rejoin his tribe.
I also found it emotionally compelling to see Bo Katan meet with Dins tribe and begin to clear her own name as a former ruler. She wasn't as bad as the rumors made her out to be.
I do think it was a little to much Bo Katan in the show, and it would be nice to have more Din.Alot of people seem to be mad it put her in position of leadership of mandelor rather than Din. But she did save his life twice, so I think it was fair for him to give her the sabot. Also retaking mandelor was originally her plan in season 2, not Dins, so they would have to work that out somehow.
Idk I loved it personally. I don't get it.
When I was watching season 3, I kept asking myself “why do I feel a little disappointed? It’s doing what I want. It’s focusing on the mandalorians, all of them.” And I realized it just felt sloppy and very distracted. And why is Greef surprised that not paying pirates who you borrowed money from leads to disaster and the people don’t call him out. Grogu should’ve just been with Luke and we see his progress. And for some reason, a lot of the stunts and effects look really cheap. The Bad batch out did it and I enjoyed it more than mando. What happened?
I felt the same way
it's all about quantity, they are just producing "stuff" that people can watch.
It was so good, as a major diehard fan myself I loved it
described me watching ep 1-3 so well
Bad Batch had some peak episodes this season
Honestly I looked forward to the Bad Batch more than the Mandalorian every Wednesday when they were both airing side-by-side months ago.
Ep.12 "The Outpost" alone was better than the entirety of Mando S3 tbh.
@@xkmuffinzx3915 Fr, that episode was peak.
My biggest gripe is that for Bo Katan basically being the main character, she doesn't progress from where she was last seen in Mando S2, coming to terms with her not being the one with the right to reunite Mandalore, but instead goes from depressed due to her failures to REGRESSING back to her her characterization in Rebels and Clone Wars where she feels entitled by her blood right to leadership of her people and regains that right due to technicality.
She could have come to terms with the fact that she's really not suited to seizing the Mandalore system, which she's basically just bungled since the middle of the Clone Wars or like 20 years in canon, and leveraged that in an advisory role to Din who really felt like her earned that right even if he didn't necessarily want it.
Instead they opted to ignore her experience and threw the legendary weapon away unceremoniously.
She’s the lamest character in the show. 0 depth.
My brother and I love star wars, we love getting into deep conversations about it, I felt the same way you did, especially with the regression of "it's my blood that must reclaim-" topic of Bo. Yet my brother didn't see it that way, & it was a verbal fight for a hour 🤣 glad to see someone saw what I did, it's vital criticisms that are very valid!!
This is what felt off the entire season. Bo, Bo was the problem.
As a person who loves season 1 and 2 I completely agree with evaluation of this one.
I love seasons 1 and 2 as well, thanks for watching!
I’m not watching it right now but what’d he say because this finale was amazing, perfect ending
The season did show us that Grogu is growing and getting more and more independent (he even managed to save Din on his own at the end) so there is that at least.
I suppose, not really character development tho
He’s literally saved him before
He's saved him before and din gets saved by almost everyone in this season so that's not really saying much.
The ending of this season felt like an end to the show and mandalore’s story. There’s supposed to be a season 4 but I feel like you can end this show here since Gideon is dead, Mandalore is reclaimed and the Mandalorians are united. Sure there’s going to be a build up to Filoni’s movie but I just personally feel like this show can end things here and Din, Grogu and Bo Katan can appear in other projects as supporting characters. I’m just not sure what a season 4 can bring to the table outside of cute baby yoda moments and fighting Imperials.
it'll be interesting
I don't think Gideon is dead, I think ultimately he'll end up being killed by Thrawn during the heir to the empire movie!
@@kdusel1991 I really hope he’s dead. Star Wars has too many fake out deaths at this point.
While you are definitely correct I feel like season four is opening the door to the heir of the empire movie which will prominently featured Grogu and the Mandalorian
@@CyberSonic-V3.0 I'm of two minds about it because...yeah Star Wars has had too many fakeout deaths, but bringing Gideon back just to kill him in such a lame way is bizarre to me
By FAR my biggest problem with this season was that I did not like Boka Tan. She's stubborn, egotistical and annoying when she's on screen. And the worst part? She never had character growth. Instead of finally accepting that the darksaber doesn't belong to her or something along those lines, perhaps a character arc or something, she just gets her ego fulfilled and is just as boring as she was prior.
I would have rather seen the darksaber lost, broken, stolen, or destroyed prior to her finally obtaining it. It would bring more clarity and relatability to her character, rather than the "oh she beat the thing that jumped me while I was off-guard".
Just imagine her chasing the darksaber after it had fallen off a cliff, or desperately scrambling to repair it - some kind of struggle would have been far more compelling and entertaining.
I would rather have seen the Gideon clones waking up and beating the shit out of Din and Bo using the force and then have that scene with Axe Woves crashing the ship killing them all and Grogu protecting them from the fire than having them die the way they did
agreed
seeing a bunch of naked gustavo frings beating the fuck out of Din and Bo would’ve been really funny
If that happen probably everyone would hate that
One thing I'm really happy about is that the ending of this season set the show up to go back to just Mando and Grogu adventures.
oh 100%
Why would there have to be some big goodbye seen at the end? In this story alone they visit everyone several times. The second season ended with Mando thinking he wouldn’t see Grogu again while here he just decides to live in a planet away from the Mandalorians. The only goodbye scene needed was for Paz and his kid. He ignores orders for his kid and that should’ve been the case in the end with him doing it mainly for his kid or asking for them to look after his kid.
Tbh, I would’ve clicked on this video MUCH sooner if it was titled "Why it's fine" instead of "why it sucks." I'm so tired of the negativity overall.
The problem with the Disney approach of naming properties is that every one is named after a specific character. Had Ep. 4 come out today, it would be called "Luke Skywalker". They should have named it "A New World" or something and allowed it to be different seasons focusing on different characters, and some characters pop in and out from time to time. Then we could negate the criticism "This episode isn't about the Mandalorian. This is filler!"
Remember this is a warrior race. As kids theyre already in helmets. Some learning to use the jetpack. Youre not going to get alot of character from people who only know war. That why i understand bringing grogu back. Hes comical and emotional relief.
Something that seemed so obvious which is crazy they didn’t do is Moff Gideon being defeated by the mythosaur symbolically being rejected and defeated by the mandalorian culture
It was a missed opportunity to not show Grogu bring trained by Luke, showing a reveal of when Yoda trained Luke
Every Mando Episode Ranked:
24: Chapter 19: The Convert
23: Chapter 22: Guns For Hire
22: Chapter 5: The Gunslinger
21: Chapter 17: The Apostate
20: Chapter 10: The Passenger
19: Chapter 2: The Child
18: Chapter 20: The Foundling
17: Chapter 9: The Marshall
16: Chapter 11: The Heiress
15: Chapter 1: The Mandalorian
14: Chapter 18: The Mines of Mandalore
13: Chapter 4: Sanctuary
12: Chapter 24: The Return
11: Chapter 15: The Believer
10: Chapter 6: The Prisoner
9: Chapter 21: The Pirate
8: Chapter 3: The Sin
7: Chapter 7: The Reckoning
6: Chapter 13: The Jedi
5: Chapter 23: The Spy
4: Chapter 12: The Seige
3: Chapter 8: Redemption
2: Chapter 14: The Tragedy
1: Chapter 16: The Rescue
I feel cheated out of a space battle. I thought we'd be seeing a huge battle for Mandalore both planetside and in space. That LEGO set made me think we'd see fighters take on interceptors, with infantry hijacking ships mid-flight. I wanted to see imperial cruisers go head-to-head.
That’s a movie budget, watch the movies for big space battles
@@mclovinpobut the movies dont even have space battles
First season: keep kid save
Second season: bring kid home while keeping him save
Third season: go bathing, side quest on corusant, do another side quest.
thats how it be
Bobf was purely because they didn't know if pedro would come back. And the second he did they shoved 3 mando episodes in bobf
I think the biggest let down for me with this season was the inconsistency. The ending itself was decent and definitely wholesome, but I just wish the actual season had been more enjoyable. The plot was all over the place and it felt like we left off things that were supposed to be important such as IG-11, the Mythosaur, and the Darksaber. Instead we were having dinner parties with Jack Black! Din and Grogu also being sidelined for Bo-Katan pissed me off as well because Bo-Katan is supposed to get her own show later, yet it felt like she took the spotlight in season 3 of Mando’s show. I really believe there was a lot of potential this season, but instead the first 6 episodes just felt like a massive waste of time. Definitely a disappointing season overall which is honestly depressing because the show itself really is good.
Good points I definitely agree with
We don’t even know if she is getting her own series
My biggest gripe is Sabine I guess gave up on Mandalore completely despite her being the last representative of clan Wren. Yeah yeah her character is being pooped on currently but we didn’t know that during Mando S3…
Calling it now, The Mandalorian S4 pilot opening line: "Somehow Moff Gideon returned.."
I’ll throw a fit
My thoughts exactly 😒
What fascinates me is that he used Star Trek font for a Star Wars video
I cared to little about this show that I completely forgot the Paz died
The Mandalorian Season 1-2, The Book of Boba Fett and The Mandalorian Season 3 were the first arc of the New Republic storyline, hence why the "ending" vibes to Season 3.
Ahsoka, Skeleton Crew, The Mandalorian Season 4 and others will be the next arc, the Thrawn Campaign as i like to call.
I appreciate that you ended the video on an optimistic note for the Disney Star Wars era.
It felt so refreshing compared to all the negativity and hate it receives.
Not liking Bad Batch is craaazzzyyy Bad Batch is some of the best animation since Clone Wars! Especially season 2 it was soooo good
Sorry!
Even with its faults BB S2 hit way harder than Mando S3.
I think season 3 was allready being made but kathy Kennedy got angry that their big money maker was gone so he was just randomly added in make sense why it didn't focused on him
It’s pretty apparent the writers room had no idea what to do with this season from beginning to end. This entire season felt like filler. It’s also pretty clear that this show is slowly being morphed into the “retcon show” to make the sequels make sense.
I tend to agree
Says “I freaked out when Zeb had a cameo, because I love rebels.” Then at 19:14 “I couldn’t give a s**t that they referenced Count Dooku.” I usually like this guy for giving everything Star Wars a fair shot, and if his opinion is taken into account he usually admits that. But here it’s just clear opinion and complete bias.
idk how any of this works but this shouldn’t happen. like didn’t the episodes get approved by many ppl? how did nobody speak up saying “what’s the theme of this season?” or questions of why
Now they need to show the Bendu creature from Rebels in Live Action.
Can I...get that gif/clip of Daisy Ridley winking anywhere?
While this season isn't great, I still enjoyed it! especially the later half!
same! (except for 6)
@@thegoldman25 I actually enjoyed 6 quite a bit!
Is great just no a piece of art
At least we got a breaking bad reference with Moff Gideon’s Death
DETEST ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING DISNEY HAVE DONE WITH STAR WARS
THANKFULLY WE HAVE THE DESPECIALIZED ORIGINAL TRILOGY, THATS ALL I WILL WATCH NOW.
The Goldman says he likes the sequels
Star Wars fans: TRAAITOOORR!!!
Also Star Wars fans: oh wait a no reference
Grogu adds the kid element they need to capitalize on the younger audience, and for those moments when you need to throw a character in harms way for the "epic" battle. Sure, they could have made them complete mercenaries but the executives that fund these things like the family connection premise.
Personally I think Star Wars needs to loose all of it's cannon and just use those wonderful set designers and artists and do a story completely not related to cannon at all, how about a whole new galaxy to explore, rather than tediously trying to tie every story together so it all fits.
5:00 one thing to add is grogu did save Din from the imperial commandos in the finale
It really seems like grogu coming back in book of boba really messed with the plot of season 3. Grogu just seemed so out of place
While I generally agree with you about this season , I strongly disagree that Grogu is not an important component of this season. True, it is not an active role but he has always been (problematically)not a character as much as he is an object of value. But object or being, Din loves Grogu and he is rootless without (more arguably than being a Mandalorian). This season is awful but it is not a season about 5he retaking of Mandalore as much as it is about Din wanting to create a home for safe home for Grogu. Just a quibble, but he needs to be there.
THANK YOU. I ALSO THOUGHT THE SEASON WAS GONNE BE ABOUT DJINN QUESTIONING HIS CLAN. I was honestly disappointed when the series pivoted away from that.
i think the importance of the darksaber arc to mando is that he has essentially been trying to shirk the responsibility of it without having it known that he is doing so. When he duels vizla it is more an answer to a challenge than any desire to keep the blade. Even bo seems shocked at the use of the technicality, but she has always been one to pounce at a chance for influence and power and so accepts the premise. I hope that there becomes an arc where he works on this, but.. who knows
I like your star wars takes. It's really fresh and reminds us the franchise is really not uptight as the fans try to make it out to be.
Great video man
Would love to know what you think if Disney went on to do six episode shorts like Tales of the Jedi with other concepts.
1. Tales of the Jedi (season 2)
2. Tales of the Sith
3. Stories from the Bounty Hunter Guild
4. Stories from Clone Commanders.
The last one I came up with when we met Mayday in Bad Batch. Plus, Clone Wars fans could get continued Clone stories from ones we haven’t met or casual run into from existing stories.
9:36 Also to note: a rule that was never mentioned in any of the previous appearances. Maul claimed it as a trophy because it was a uniting symbol, not because it was an actual rule. In rebels the Darksaber was given to Bo Katan after it was stolen by Sabine from Maul. No rule then. It was only a rule for that specific scene.
You're much nicer to this show than I am. Fine is far too high of praise.
The only way the whole Gideon cloning trash would be justified is if it was all a distraction from Hux's dad's "Project Necromancer" (smt related to reviving Palpatine or making Snoke), making it seem that all the midichlorians went to making Sith-Gideon troopers to the New Republic
Interesting idea
The final two episodes had way too many moments that made absolutely no logic.
- Gideon doesn`t kill Din Djarin, but escort him with two (!!) troopers.
- Gideon somehow has a tracking device on both Din Djarin and Grogu. He sees exactly where they are and he couldn`t give a fuck less that they are getting close to his clones, yet appears very angry and shocked, after something that he could have stopped, happens.
- ...and this is a minor one, I guess, but Moff Gideon destroys Bo Katan`s dark saber, by clinching his fist, yet Bo Katan`s hand, which he was crushing as well, at the same time, is completely ok.
yeah, a lot of weird shit
He doesn't have a tracking device specifically on Mando and Grogu, rather it's technology that enables you to see things and people, similar to a security camera or radar.
IMO third season is one big mess. I thought after parting with Grogu and being banished from his clan he would have to overcome his reluctance to lead and use previous character development to take responsibility as head of state for Mandalore, that taking back the planet would be hard and it will require building alliances and resolving conflicts (like with Bo-Katan, who wants the sabre). Instead they undone all the progress to sell more merch, and had no idea what to do with titular characters of the show. No wonder Pedro Pascal didn't even bother to come on set most of the time.
I suspect Dave Filoni was a bit busy planning and making the Ahsoka show and couldnt guide the project and help Favreau make good Star Wars.
Something I just realized is that seasons 1 and 2 are very character-driven but season 3 was plot-driven which could have worked if they actually focused on the plot and if the plot was interesting. The problem is that it’s not even the same show.
One thing you didnt mention is cara dunebwas one of the best parts of the show
In general, I love Star Wars. There are always moments that could be more, in TV or Movies (I never saw the animated shows) but overall, it is a great escape from the craziness of life. The Mandalorian is the 'family' show. Andor is the 'mature' show. Boba is... variety? Haha.
Truthfully, I like them all equally. I am looking forward to Ahsoka, since I never saw Clone Wars and would like to learn more about her. I especially am eager to watch more of Andor. I hope Boba and Obi-Wan get a season 2, as I really enjoyed those shows as well.
With the announcement of Rey having a film in the future, I am just very grateful for all the fun Star Wars content. I am just a TV/Movie goer, but there are books, comics, cartoons, video games etc. Star Wars is one of the best franchises as there really is something for everyone, of any person, out there to enjoy, get into, and relate. Star Wars is just really cool, man!
Love your videos, Gold Man. I enjoy hearing your discussions on our Galaxy far, far, away....
Did you forget that moff Gideon would still be loose if grogu didn't save din in the last episode
Star Wars fans declare everything as bad when it’s not what they wanted in their head
This is a great channel bro! Keep up the good work and the subs will soon start flying 🙌
This season is so bad it makes me never want to watch any future mando seasons
Hey @The Gold Man, can you might do a video on "What The Rise of Skywalker did better than The Mandalorian Season 3" and cover some aspects on what The Rise of Skywalker did way better than The Mandalorian Season 3 had by comparing them? I still love The Rise of Skywalker better than The Mandalorian in general.
i doubt it
Love ur videos bro. Always surprises me u don’t have more subs, your in for slot of success my man! Keep up the work
Thank you so much! I appreciate the kind words a lot
My thoughts: The whole technicality of the exchange of the saber between Jarin and Katan was set up visually pretty well in that spider droid episode (I even remember thinking to myself, oh it's hers now). It also hammers home how bs the whole concept is (further hammered home by the actual destruction of the saber), but also how Jarin is aware of and accepting of the others' customs. Honestly reminded me of what Tony Stark told Peter Parker: "If you're nothing without the suit, then you shouldn't have it."
Also I'm pretty sure the stinger at the end of season 2 literally says, "The Mandalorian will return in The Book of Boba Fett."
good points
OFC, Mando could've returned in TBOBF without... well, how it happened.
I disagree I would have preferred them finding out the custom was outdated and stupid through a duel but that's just me.
9:58 this is exactly what I thought (and hoped) would happen. But looking back and seeing the lack in quality this season had, it honestly doesn't surprise me anymore that they didn't do it
I think it would've made the season far more interesting
Imo, this season lacked too much on the emotional side, and relied on too many convenient plots to keep it going. It kind of felt like a big slideshow with only plot bits, no story nor character work. Honestly, I'm baffled how uniterested Favroni are in Din, Din is not just Grogu's sidekick, he is part of what we love about this series. Unlike characters like say, Anakin in Phantom Menace who is only a kid and has hardly much to give to the story, Din's probably in his 40's and has SO much story behind him!!! Why does he love the creed so much? How was he raised?? (the Din we know and love came from their upbringing), did he have a mandalorian father? or maybe he was never formally adopted and hence had some kind of hesitation over formally adopting Grogu? Maybe his mandalorian father died like Bo Katan's and he never got to see his face and thus wanted Grogu to see his before saying goodbye?. Why does he know Tusken language? how is he so good with other cultures???. Din is super interesting but the story has no idea how to write him, not even in the season ABOUT MANDALORE. Even with Din finally adopting Grogu, as much as I loved it, it felt kind of out of nowhere just for the clean slate finale. All the set up from S2? gone or fixed on a whim, and it's not that I dislike fun, I love camp, I would have even been on board with Lizzo and Jack Black but like you said in the video, the story was so boring and numb, and that lack of focus on Din is felt even more cuz the episode could have been a GREAT chance to explore his trauma towards droids, but instead we just see him hating them like in S1? Seriously? no reaction to the DROIDS WHO KILLED HIS PARENTS? he just starts kicking them?. It's so disappointing how little they care about Din as a character.
He redeemed himself by the second episode (and I don't mind if he wants to belong cuz some individuals just have faith as part of their lives) and then played side kick who had to be constantly rescued. Din was the perfect vehicle for the audience to learn more about Mandalore, cuz he knew as little as we did about the other factions, but no, instead we got the same arc for Bo Katan for the third time, and she lost all her personality and what made her intriguing in the process, never acknowledging her past mistakes and failures (like when she admitted she surrendered to Gideon and none of the Mandos were bothered in the slightest, when they obviously weren't told the plans of surrender). Same with the children of the watch being written so incompetent in Jurassic Park for Bo to show leadership skills...all bc she had a ship and they didn't? I guess they took the space bus there? And are u telling me they Never tried to hunt that damn bird? (am I the only one who laughed at how they "ran out of fuel" by pursuing a bird for a few miles but Axe had enough fuel to GET INTO ORBIT AND THEN SCAPE THE FALLING SHIP? KAJHDKJA). Rlly, so baffling writing choices, no wonder people thought the armorer was suspicious! she changed her mind re Bo so randomly! Despite calling her a cautionary tale in book of Boba... It feels like the mythosaur was just a excuse to make the superstitious leader think Bo is a chosen one or smth!, when a conflict between them would have been SO much more interesting...
And idk but Din showing 0 emotions through the season was very annoying too, he only had them with Grogu, but hello? Bo Katan is calling you a religious zealot who sucks and is to blame for the destruction of Mandalore (when it was her fault lmao) and he doesn't care? She also never apologizes for treating them like shit to then be proven wrong by being welcomed with open arms? IT'S SO WEIRD HOW NO ONE IN THE SEASON TALKED NOTHING BUT PLOT (and imo the fact that Din rarely spoke to anyone but Bo shows just how little chemistry they had, sure the dialogue was bad but at least there's banter with Peli or Cara, partnership with Greef or Cobb, etc, with Bo all interactions were contrived and boring except for the out of nowhere speech of "I'll serve you until your song is written (sorry Din but the song was written...many times...and it wasn't a hit)" that is great in a vacuum, but then Din simply leaves the planet once they take it back lol I guess the song was written??. At least with Boba I felt something when Din said they'd go down together, he had nothing to lose anymore after being told he should never see Grogu again so it made sense he was willing to die.
My only theory is that they're stretching out the plot so it fits better the thrawn movie they're setting up, cuz all the set up in S2 was dropped go return us to S1 status. I feel like they'll give Din's arc of leadership for that movie instead (cuz why else show how good he is at making different factions work together? And his understanding of other cultures? It'd be so weird if it leads nowhere, tho at this point I better not expect anything lol).
This season's biggest failure besides the uniterest in Din and Grogu is that it made Mandalore SO uninteresting...we got one more named Mandalorian this season...one. The other named one? gone (and they didn't even fucking mourn him kajshdkja). I've asked my non hardcore-Star-Wars-fan friends and they were SO done, only kept watching for Grogu and Din, and they're so happy the season ended with them both going on adventures again, ready to leave Mandalore behind, and that's just...not good, whoever thinks we will get a Bo Katan show now is being very generous, general audiences won't care about such a show, I assure you ñ_n.
Anyway...sorry for the long rant, this season has lots of good ideas on paper but hardly explored any of it, which is a damn shame.
I totally agree with everything you said. Also thanks for taking the time to write this, I appreciate it!
How tf did Gideon know Mando killed his clones? Does he have CCTV or did he just wallhack?
1:17 there are people that don't like the bad batch?! its easily one of my top shows. it so beautifully tells the story of the lives of veterans who get discarded by their government while answering the question of what happened to the clones.
15:44 I don't necessarily disagree with your criticisms, but can see an issue cropping up from Star Trek as well. There are often filler episodes that are palmed off to us as a slice of life or a focus on a supporting character for one episode. Apparently this adds richness to the whole thing, or you get a bunch of credulous fans who actually love Trouble with Tribbles the most out of ToS, but not me. Once you've watched all of ToS as often as I have, those episodes can be all the harder to sit through, but seemingly it's a part of the whole series format.
Good and bad writers emerge, maybe a DC Fontana has to step in and save a particularly weak script. I agree that these were not issues in the first series, but they start to creep in with series 2 and now in series 3 are in full view. Stuff going on outside the series, such as cancellations generating filler episodes or general writer confusion, editorial mandates or studio interference, viewer feedback, let alone strikes can all come into play and affect any series.
Should we put up with avoidable mediocrity, of course not, but this does seem to crop up often in a TV episodic format, even ones with movie production values, such as with Twin Peaks.
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this season felt more like a Clone Wars plot than "The Mandalorian". Which was fine, I enjoyed it enough, but it felt like it lost a bit of the initial magic of the series
It really did didn’t it?
“Following the holder of a specific item is a silly idea”:
Literally all of mandalorian society from 10s of thousands of years: 😬😬😬
Completely agree on the fact that the season was almost concluding and I still had no idea what the actual story was meant to be about. This season was so lousy and such a let down, unbelievable how Disney have killed the show just to cash grab off of grogu
Star Ttek guy is back. I'm not sure what show you Star Wars guys were watching but season 3 was the right way to go with this series and actually extended its life by finishing up the season 2 storyline and reestablishing at the end the lone bounty hunter and kid premise. Did Mando take a back sit in season 3 yes. But you established that the New Republic isn't all that good. You got an inside man handler in Capt Teva that will get Mando and the Kid a new adventure every week.
Remember this is not network TV or syndication you don't have 26 episodes per season to tell a story.
After JJ TREK and Star Discovery you Star War fan definitely shouldn't be complaining about the Mandalorian.
I'm a Diehard star trek fan but I absolutely love the Mandalorian
I never watched bobf and at the beginning of season 3 I had no idea what was going on. I had to go back and check that season 2 ended how I remembered because I was just confused thinking "........isn't he with luke? why is he with mando?"
I feel that our expectations are now spoiling the experience. I loved the season, I’m not sure if it’s what people think should happen that make them think that the season was poorly done, but I would argue it’s on par with the previous ones. Whilst I don’t want to go into too much detail, I would say that previous season had a novelty factor but if we were truly to analyse them there was a lot of silliness and supposedly weird episodes, and weird character pivots. The same goes for Clone Wars and Rebels. Having said that, I still love all of these shows and accept them as the overall story that is being told. The only Star Wars product I will never accept are the sequels. There’s not much redemption there which is why I hope the characters and those involved in set design, VFC etc will get another spin in a reset/alternate time but time will tell. I really did try to give them a chance, but to me they’re simply unwatchable. At least the shows have more or less definitive ending so one can just finish at the point they wish to finish and pretend like the rest never happened.
One point on Grogu, I disagree that there was no character development. For one you have to look at him as 3 year old child that operates on instinct and perception. He is becoming more trusting, he’s becoming more assertive in his actions as well. On that note, my question here is, what would be a character development for a 3 year old? I think them treading carefully makes a lot more sense then all of a sudden seeing Grogu having moral and existential crisis.
You’re right it wasn’t great, it was amazing, I feel like I’m one of the only diehard fans that have been with Star Wars my whole life left, I love everything even the sequels, they may be the worst but I still rewatch them sometimes
Hey, last Jedi and force awakens are great movies
@@thegoldman25 they are. But far inferior to The Rise of Skywalker, which is an amazing movie.
I liked season 3, but i can agree with most of your points. Gotta say i love the positive tone in your reviews. It’s very refreshing. Great videos.
Din didn't go to Bo-Katan for no reason. She knew where the Living Waters on Mandalore were, he went there to ask her.
This began her character arc, which was then continued when she went to rescue Mando, sees the Mythosaur, becomes a Child of the Watch, shows them she is still a capable leader, and shows the Armorer it's time to reunite the separate Mandalorian clans.
Would you rather The Armorer have stated "We must unite our clans and retake Mandalore" in the first couple episodes? She still believed the planet was cursed & thought of Bo-Katan as nothing more than a cautionary tale.
This is what the season was about: coming together despite their differences and retaking Mandalore, showing that it's not about whether you take your helmet off or wield the Darksaber, it's about whether or not you stick together as a family, despite your differences.
One point on the darksaber, we have Ezra returning to the galaxy now and the possibility of Huyang’s return, who likely witnessed and guided the creation of the darksaber, there’s the potential for its repair - perhaps if Huyang and Sabine return, the mandalorian Jedi with an ancestral claim on the blade as a member of house visla (clan wren), as she hasn’t made a lightsaber herself, perhaps they’re hiring at the reclaiming of the darksaber from Bo
So nice to see someone give this series the critique that it deserves. I swear to god every time I was on Reddit 90% of the comments were “The newest episode is literally perfect 10/10”
3:22 I disagree, Boba Fett's inclusion in Mando s2 was natural especially after his tease in season 1, it wasn't a surprise for superfans who recognized his spur sound bite. Bo-Katan and her appearance in S2 was the real mistake.
I don't know what you watched, but Book of Boba Fett was unanimously loved and awesome resurrection of the character.
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I only really like chapter 6 because it dropped the same day as the Super Mario Bros. Movie
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I'm just gonna say as cool as the darksaber is I much prefer the helm of mandalore being a symbol of leadership rather than a jedi weapon. Yes it was made by a mandalorian jedi, but it just feels wrong. It isn't a weapon based in their culture. Yeah, a lightsaber is cooler than a helmet, but what that helmet means is so cool especially if you have played kotor 2 or read kotor themed comics. It has more cultural significance especially when you consider how the mandalorians in this show put so much emphasis on keeping their helmets on. Idk the darksaber just feels like fan service, and as signature weapon for Djinn I much preferred the beskar spear or his rifle. We don't get to see someone fight with a spear that often, especially in star wars, so having that just made him feel unique, but this is star wars and every main protagonist has to have a lightsaber(yeah i know there shows/movies that dont do this, but it is definitely not the majority).
I watched this video & it’s funny how he basically is showing & proofing to the whole wide world that he kind of likes it but he is too stupid to understand it. He doesn’t see that everything that they do has purpose. Just like how he likes the sequels but he doesn’t get that either. I know this because I’ve seen his videos on the sequels too. Unfortunately for fans this is the common case scenario with critic you tube channels. They love with all their hearts criticizing Star Wars because it is a big target JUST TO GET MORE VIEWS BECAUSE OF THE CONTROVERSY THEY CREATE. They don’t care to try too think & figure it out. Critics are the laziest people… If you watch this video be prepared to get a bunch worthless opinions that doesn’t make anything better. When I watched season 3 a second time, I liked it even more. Lucky me I guess… poor golden boy…
I hated in episode 6 how they CLEARLY SHOW that you can challenge another Mandalorian to a duel to the point of yielding instead of to the death. Bo could have fought Din in a non lethal duel and we’d get something with actual drama and stakes instead of “oh, she beat some monster that beat me you dorks didn’t see”
It was good enough; it obviously had a crutch thanks to Boba Fett. However it did manage to make some entertaining episodes. The action was still good, the special effects were still awesome, and none of the episodes (save maybe one of them) were awful.
I agree!
Spectacular, stupendous. A turd storyline polished up with CGI and "Action". You are the quintessential Star Wars fan. But I'm glad you found some enjoyable moments.
@@jamiemunn9200 Despite the sarcastic insult. I’ll still take the ‘compliment’ you made at the end. Plus I would essentially agree with you anyway. If you said the third season of this show was the worst one.
What if AP-5 was in the droid bar???!!!
About chapter 6, I believe if it wasn’t a filler about a conspiracy but about a real droid revolution it would’ve been at least useful, maybe using the contrast of the droids will of independence with Mando’s backstory, to make him learn something with the episode, to make his character grow…just not to throw an episode in the WC like that
I'm just kinda tired of Star Wars at the moment, and that sucks as a fan. I think Season 3 overall was pretty good, but it had moments that either didn't belong or should have been in its own show. However, I think my biggest problem this season is how it didn't take any risks. The mythosaur? Still asleep. Mandalore? Retaken in 2 episode. Any conflicts between the clans reuniting? Couple scenes of chess and its resolved. Honestly, I can see myself hanging up my hat on this finale if season 4 is canceled or is super bad. I'm disappointed but at the same time satisfied. I want something radically different and hopefully Ahsoka is it.
I read somewhere that Favreau and Filoni both pitched different Mandalorian centred shows and KK suggested they work together and "The Mandalorian" was born. I wonder if they began with the narrower "Lone Wolf and Cub" Mando + Grogu, which was Favreau's and now they're pivoting to the wider Bo Katan, Thrawn and the New Republic story which is more Filoni's. The "Lone Wolf and Cub" is a pretty limited concept especially when the hero rarely shows his face and the sidekick is a puppet that can't talk - so there's no harming in doing that pivot and having another lead who actually shows her face (you might say she replaced having a bunch of one off or recurring characters, like Bill Burr's Migs Mayfeld who come in carry an episode then go), but they really failed to pull off the pivot.
sounds about right!
The adventures of Grogu and Din would be cool as a comic book, especially since it would allow the reader to read Grogu's POV