This season was the season of all time. The characters did some things. There was action. Grogu was in it. There was CGI. The music played. Dialogue was spoken. Score/10
Maybe a minor complaint, but did anyone find it annoying that Paz died for like, nothing? Someone could've easily covered him and he could've escaped too, and regardless his death wasn't narratively built up at all and felt sudden. And then his death wasn't mentioned a single time after that.
You're forgetting that the weapons that killed him did nothing to Din....it's the same fkin set of weapons, but all the sudden they can't cut through gaps in Dins armor.
@@0giraffe0 Yeah the whole beskar armor thing is extremely inconsistent in the final episodes. Like in season 2 we see Din be literally unstoppable and tank like 20-30 blaster shots at a time (think storming the cruiser with Bo or the fight with Boba) yet here guys are dying after like 1 shot to the chest. They made beskar extremely powerful and also extremely useless
@@brewmaster2912 Season 1 was great, a breath of fresh air that finally explored some new characters for once. Season 2 immediately threw the old fan favorite characters back at us and gave us more of the same. Not bad, not great. Season 3 was just awful.
I think the worst thing about this Era of starwars is that with the depiction the new republic being so ineffective it devalues everything the rebellion fought for. Like, why watch any starwars now knowing its all for nothing and any victory is short lived until Palpatine is finally destroyed... again.
Seriously the Sequels should have been about protecting the New Republic one that is still stabilizing with good people in charge against a new threat.
Anything produced by Disney is non canon. It is literally fan fiction. With no involvement with George Lucas, all this shit is, by DEFINITION, fan fiction. It’s all fake. You can just point and laugh at all this dumpster fire while saving all the cherished memories of episodes 1-6 and legends material
There shouldn't have been an immediate change of government in the first place. The death of the emperor doesn't mean the empire is suddenly gone. The process of ridding the galaxy of the empire should at least have taken like 10 years and tons of battles. Even George screwed this up by adding Jar Jar and all the planets galaxy-wide celebrating at the end of Jedi.
I haven't finished Jedi Survivor yet, but it seems to very strongly start into a mindset of "Are we really changing anything?" with what I presume is a decently positive attempt at an answer for this. But like you said, Palpatine just rises after 30 years and every legacy main character has become a deadbeat alcoholic old person basically. It's going to be something to potentially see all the post order 66 survivors return to recreate the council with Rey. With Luke & Leia maybe only being there as bits of fanservice as they pretty much don't amount to anything else now that they're dead.
The mango season 3 was doomed the minute they returned Grogu in BOBF. I can't imagine that was the writers' initial plan, and it REALLY shows. Glad I watched reviews of this instead of the actual show
Unfortunately grogu is there cash cow. I’m sure we all know somebody who watches or has watched the show because of “baby yoda”. Disney knows this and knew they couldn’t lose him even if writing wise it made the most sense to ditch him for a little bit. We were always gonna be stuck with him as long as Disney is still trying to make their money back.
when I heard Grogu was back I legit thought a co-worker was trolling me because I wasn't interested in the Boba show and had said I'd skip S3 is Grogu came back. They couldn't wait till the next season to turn the S2 ending into a melodramatic cringe-fest. "Good bye Grogu...see you after you're done at Jedi summer camp in 2 months."
Paz Visla died the way he lived. Being way too aggressive and surviving far more blaster bolts than anyone realistically should. (Did they just forget between Bad Batch and now how to make a stun blaster?) Also the scene where he's important before his "sacrifice" is him attempting to kill a man over a difference in chess rules. Real memorable character there can't wait to find out he's still alive in season 6.
Speaking of the blaster stun setting, I recently realized that lightsabers can't deflect them back at the shooter. Kinda weird nobody thought to use that as an anti-Jedi tactic.
They used one on Grogu in season 2. I think the main reason they don't use them, is that the effect looks cheap as shit. The other reason being that they would prevent the story from unfolding the way they want it to...
I think that Paz dying was literally Jon Favreau wanting to kill himself after seeing how the season turned out. I wouldn't be surprised if that wasn't his resignation scene.
OMG, I just said something similar, but in a way meaner way. I'll copy and paste it "He didn't die for nothing, he died because the tub of lard that plays the character got butt hurt and doesn't want to do another season. Someone else could've worn the helmet, he killed him off out of spite, I don't blame him."
TO MY PERSPECTIVE *Season 1 Worked well because it was a genuine Risk, They put so little on it yet the result was really impressive* *-Season 2 is were the problems started, since it wasn't a Mandalorian Season 2, rathee commercials to future projects(& 1/2 of them have been cancelled)* _Season 3 is clearly a Show with 0 goals & Random Shinanigans to fill the 8 Ep gap, since they aren't really going to any direction_
@@funninoriginal6054 there was gonna be a show with Cara Dune and some of her New Republic pals, but Disney scrapped that after the actress said or did something that Disney didn’t like.
@@ridergilwin1494 I remember part of it was that she was openly transphobic which was is disgusting on itself because Pedro Pascals sister is a trans woman. I believe there was other reasons but I don't remember
What annoys me the most about the New Republic in both this show and the Sequel trilogy is that it acts like previous incarnation of the Republic, i.e. corrupt, slow to react to threats etc. However, the original Republic had thousands of years to slide into corruption and decadence. The New Republic has had 30 years and to suggest that this would happen in that short amount of time just feels unrealistic, especially without any mega corrupting force like Palpatine in the Prequels.
And given what we learned from Mando season 3, it did not take even 30 years to fall into such corruption and inefficiency, but instead five. At this point, that security guy had a point. Someone just needs to make a revived Confederacy of Independent Systems since for all their problems, at least they got shit done.
Yeah it definitely feels like the new republic has to be written as incompetent and/or nearly as bad as the empire now in order to accommodate a mediocre sequel trilogy where they didn't bother to even half-explain the rise of the first order.
Yeah, the new government would be a swift, fast acting one that got shit done, due to it being new, probably comprised of younger people with morals, and well before the system could build up a massive inertia due to getting too big internally and beaurocratically Obviously the New Republic makes no sense, because Disney is retarded beyond all belief
Nah the New Republic makes sense. Most of the territory they inhabited consists of a generation of people who were influenced by imperial propaganda and corruption. The writers took some mayor inspiration from real history here, the New Republic seems like an extrem representation of the great flaws of Konrad Adenaur’s time as Bundeskanzler of the BRD, after the fall of the Third Reich.
Silly question, but if Moff Gideon AGAIN, defeated Bo Katan, but Axe Woves dropped a cruiser on him and defeated him, shouldn't he be the rightful ruler of Mandalore?! I mean it's in their silly rules as per Favreau and Filoni.
@@SuperDababy2 It's funny cause the saber thing was originally just meant to be symbolic only, then in Rebels and now Mando they've made it a literal requirement to be ruler.
@@DillsyYourDaddy67 yeah idk why they're acting like it is. Wasn't it only meant to provide a CLAIM to be the ruler of Mandalore, not automatically make the wielder the ruler?
only to fail because real star wars fans have given up on star wars... now we are in the dark times.... during the empire. and general audiences and fake star wars fans didnt watch it because it was slower, didnt have a ton of nostalgia/prequel memes to get the clapping seals to enjoy it. plus it was about a dead character no one cares about..... that would be like if disney decided their next star wars trilogy would be about yadel from the prequels.... most people would go who the fuck is that?!?! or worse they make a trilogy about fucking tom bombadil from lord of the rings and no one notices they got their franchises mixed up
@@ninvusoogoar6098even if saying "fake fans" is cliché, there's not really any other way to call them, and if they love all the lightsabers instead of a a good story why don't they shove one up their ass
@@ninvusoogoar6098people just too afraid to give stuff a chance its annoying cuz yeah i thought it was boring as hell a couple episodes but gave it a chance and it was amazing but most starwars fans that didnt give up are cartoon fans and the cartoons are so goofy childish and always full of action so something like andor just doesnt translate as starwars to them
@@jilliebean6312 well those morons think ahsoka is the greatest thing ever and will save star wars, which its not. its way slower than andor but while andor is a slow burn ahsoka has nothing to burn. andor has a lot of world building issues and the writing is not good in most of the show. i think disney creates scenes (a good handful are good/cool) before anything else, and then tries desperately to web it all together. which is why you see sooo many characters break character for the plot to happen. i couldnt really stand watching andor, didnt feel like star wars. felt like a spy thriller done poorly while larping as star wars. i chop it up to the fact i do not like slow/slow burn movies/tv, i walked out of the bladerunner sequels due to it being so boring and slow. only to rewatch it again and skip past the boring atmosphere stuff. with andor they could of sped it up a bit or scrap the entire show and make a new one about a character we actually give a fuck about.
One thing that Bad Batch season 2 did that I liked and I thought this season was gonna do as well was after the republic became the empire, all the people who were a part of the separatist alliance started pointing fingers and saying "See see, I told you this was gonna happen, this was exactly what Count Dooku was trying to warn us about"
I also still want to know where all those Mandalorians came from. Like, the last time we saw the Amorer, she chilled on the scaffholding of a space station with no company apart from Paz Vizla, as all the other Children of the Watch left in Season 1. And next thing you know, they're all back?! When did that happen?
You forgot to mention that they said lightsabers can cut anything except beskar but now we’re seeing bo katan use a literal lightsaber to cut beskar wearing troops like butter
@@haxmode6935 what’s you evidence? the part where din was using a beskar spear to block attacks from it or the literal line “can cut through anything…except beskar”? (All in s2 btw) And no it doesn’t carry so much narrative because it can “cut through beskar” (which it can’t) it Carrie’s so much because all the mandalorian history behind it
NO!!! we must have them eventually replace by a female character so we can have her slay queen slay girl boss it. we need to make a shitier version of true detective where we play hot potato with main characters, but with the twist of intersectional feminism #forceisfemale #ally #killmelolol
While I agree that it was not as good as the previous seasons I think this is a stupid comment. In EVERY single Star Wars film it moves away from the main character for a bit to see what other characters are doing.
@@bigchungus6827 The OTS had 3 main characters, that they jumped between. I don’t feel that Bo Katans story was changing the main character per say. The main goal of the third season was reforming Mandalore, Din was a big part of that. While it did explore more Mandalorian characters I don’t think he was never the main character.
@@Very-old-man No, he fairly explicitly was, at least originally; it wasn't until S3 that they decided they'd rather have Bo Katan steering the ship. Nor does he really have any role in reforming Mandalore that couldn't have been done by other people. His main contributions are scanning to see if a planet is still gassed up and hovering vaguely around Bo.
So she literally accepted the Darksaber as a gift again..... lmao. No one would have her as a leader, as everyone would be saying "you accepted it as a gift last time and fcked up; doing this again?"
If they were so hell bent on propping her up as a leader (for whatever reason) AGAIN they should've at least redeemed her. Make her assume and admit her wrong doings from the Clone Wars (ie not accepting Maul's rule, instigating terrorism, etc.) make her reflect on her choices from the past and learn and grow from her mistakes so that she can become (somewhat) of a fitting leader that people can trust. Instead everything gets handed to her through ridiculous technicalities with little to no effort and never reflects on her flaws etc so the whole "selfless leader" plot falls flat on its face.
@@xkmuffinzx3915 i agree but not accepting maul’s rule was correct until s3 fucked it and just said being bested by anyone in anyway means they have the right to claim the dark saber
I'm trying to remember what Bo-katan said in the show, when she was talking about when she surrendered to Moff Gideon to save Mandolore, she said he wanted the Darksaber, so she hands it over, that was how he originally got it. Wouldn't it have always been hers, or it has to be "won", like if she set it down to go take a piss, I pick it up, Mando kills me, picks up the Darksaber "winning it" from me in combat, so it's his now, he tries to give it back to Bo-katan, she says "No, it must be won in combat"?
After the season 2 finale I had a lot of hope that lucasfilms would turn their attention away from grogu and start developing Din as a character, give more lore to the mandalorian culture and begin an adventure that would make him the new mandalore to rule over his people. Instead all I got was disappointment.
Giving grogu to luke was just the biggest waste of time since he decided to just f off back to mando anyway. The whole build up in season 2 that grogu was finally going to be trained properly is ruined because 'we need to sell more grogu merchandise he can't leave the show!!!'
This season was a damn shame to witness. I really enjoyed the previous two seasons and watched season 3 and kept seeing potential continuously squandered
@Villager on PS5 Peak Star Wars. Are you fucking with me? Dude, this show has always sucked. The problems that plague season 3 are all over the first 2. Aimless storytelling, barebones characters, ridiculous plot armor, bad action. All this show ever had going for it was great production value. As for the storytelling, you could take 3 episodes from each season, and I wouldn't be able to tell you which one's which.
There was literally so many things that could have been great in this season, especially in regards to Paz Vizsla and Bo Katan. There should have been some conversation between them about Pre Vizsla and some character building for Paz as a whole in regards on how he views his clan. The campfire scene in chapter 4 was LITERALLY perfect for that, only to end with Bo Katan alone in the fire. Not only that, if you look closely with some members of Children of the Watch, you can see that 3 of them have the Death Watch symbol, wouldn't this give Bo Katan some conflict with them considering her past with them being a former member and all?
Shit, they could have had Bo Katan actually address her past! When she was introduced in season 2, she insulted the children of the watch, despite being a former member of its parent group death watch, and took a seemingly 'holier than though' stance in regards to it. Unlike the children of the watch, which is a pretty harmless cult, deathwatch was an actual terrorist organization, with her actions having been far worse than Din Djarin's ever were. It just felt stupid for the writers to neglect this crucial aspect of her past, especially with the many opportunities for her to address it, leaving her seeming incredibly hypocritical and narcissistic.
How about cut the terrible fucking clone wars characters (who nobody cares about) out of the equation and make a story about new characters? Why can SW just not move forward? Why does everybody have to know everybody?
I dont feel this was incompetence on Jon's part. I think he actually was partially not caring, due to having to tie up loose threads after so much got upended. Gina Carano fired, Grogu forced back (because it makes sense for Disney to force Jon to bring him back for sales), Pedro at least being busy (Possibly having a disagreement, but we don't know for sure) And Filoni, while around at times, had to focus on Ahsoka, & couldn't be around as much. Favreau had to solve so much, it feels like he stopped caring, gave some base level things, filled an episode slot with Pershing from the intended "Rangers of the New Republic" show, filled part of another with cameos, and in the 2-part finale just went with lazy writing: ● Survivors that lead to the goal, ● The convenient monster, ● Cliche clone stuff, ● Easy resolutions. The ending with Mando talking about working with the New Republic seems like the show resetting to basics. Din & Grogu doing their thing, going around the galaxy. I am cautiously optimistic for Ahsoka, and hope the movie does well. I feel Boba Fett & Mando Season 3 were interfered with, and hope future things will be relatively left alone.
a lot of it is speculation even the stuff they release we cannot take as fact so i think its best we stop ourselves from putting blame on anybody, i mean clearly most public figures at disney have this public persona they gotta play so its kind of worthless judging them as people from that
@@creationfied While I don't consider Filoni and Favreau to be overly competent writers and directors, the shortcuts they've taken in the previous 2 seasons were at the very least bearable. There were contrivances, conveniences and a few plot holes glaring like a 60 year old porn star anus. But nothing was even remotely close what we were served in season 3. The show takes 4 episodes to find plot, 2 episodes to find characters and 2 episodes to fart a finale. I'm with Jansenbaker. Jon was dealt a really bad hand for Season 3 and he gave up on pretending he can write Star Wars.
God I hate that the book of boba fett and the mandalorian are treated as interchangeable. They should be their own projects with their own separate artistic identities, but instead they're more like components in a larger story machine. No soul, no passion, no joy, just tab A into slot B.
Even if you repeat yourself I will watch every single video of yours about these new Disney SW shows just to feel better that I’m not the only one thinking they’re genuinely SO BAD 🥲 all the toxic positivity and “star wars fans” LOVING these shows is just too much for me lol your work is very much needed
i hate the fact that they butchered my absolute favorite part of SW Lore namely Mandalorians. there is no part of their actual culture or way of life represented here in this show as it's all just replaced with some insane unlikeable cultist pricks who don't know the first thing about being a Mandalorian, and yet people think they are soooo sooo freaking cool, when they are just incompetent and unintelligent pricks running around in fancy armour that is nothing like what they would actually wear when unified or with their clans.
I found it particularly weird that the Mandalorians moved to Nevarro and it was a big deal that they could live there as a police force only for them to leave immediately...
As for the title i can confirm it's true (my region underwent agricultural turmoil and entered nuclear warfare because mandalorian season 3 - Stormcommando)
The apostate redemption only seems to have become a difficult thing since the Empire destroyed Mandalor. Before then it was just a bus ride to the local swimming pool.
To me, it was obvious that he was supposed to overcome his limitations to become a leader. It feels like they just took his arc and replaced him with Bo Katan and made him into a supporting character. Also bringing Grogu back was a mistake. This made all the sacrifices he went through meaningless. And I won't blame Favrou for this, if my feeling is correct, it means he was pressured into doing this.
Nah. The show was always bad, but it does feel like he doesn't care anymore. I guess it could be that they made him make this because it was popular and he didn't give a fuck anymore
Bo Katan has failed on multiple times as leader of her people, why do people keep trusting her? Isn’t she also a full on terrorist & villain? She was partly responsible for the fall of Mandalore in the first place Din has accomplished so much across 2 seasons, he’s killed a Dragon, rode a Rancorm defeated Moff Gideon & a dark trooper in 1-on-1 combat, earned the trust of multiple Jedi & influential characters, he’s a complete badass & an overall good person, it makes more sense for him to become the next ruler of Mandalore combining the children of the Watch with Bo Katan’s crew to form a new kind of Mandalorian. Nah, but that would mean that he’s better than Disney girlboss Kathl- I mean Bo Katan
She hasn’t been a terrorist for literal decades plus she’s sorta a royal and is just a better then mando from a leadership standpoint still sucks he gave up the dark saber just like that though
@@maniac7302 but she WAS a terrorist and that isn't something that you can just ignore. Like why did she even become good? She was absolutely evil when she was part of death watch, she knew about everything the death watch did and was compleatly fine with it. But when maul took over(and her ONLY problem was that maul isn't mandalorian) she suddenly became a good guy? Wtf is this writing? The only good thing she did as a leader also was just getting the help of the republik to overthrow maul, other then that she has a pretty bad track record. I have no idea why anyone would accept her as the leader
@@norberthiz9318 Bo Katan along with the NiteOwls and some DeathWatch members left DeathWatch when Maul took over because they refused to accept him as leader do to Maul not being Mandalorian which essentially fractured the DeathWatch group
@@norberthiz9318as if Satine would've done any better, If death watch never took over then mandolore would've been a Piece of paper in comparison to the empire.
Mando without his armor after becoming an apostate would have been such an interesting arc the season could have explored. The last time he had no armor at all I think was when he was a child and his people were being slaughtered. To see him back to having no armor, having nothing, we could see him as his most vulnerable. We could see him explore and struggle with his relationship with his religion and his people. He's spent his entire life following the way, but now what can he do without his religion there for him to fall back to? Would have loved to see that but they never did it or even focused on Din this season.
I think the Darksaber being heavy to an unfamiliar user was something vaguely alluded to in Rebels before this, when Kanan is trying to teach Sabine how to wield it correctly.
Which makes it sadly all the more worse that din could never not fight the blade and learn how to use it but the writers wiped their arse with that plot line
@@maniac7302 Literally. Half way into it they just throw Din’s arc away. They showed him training, explained why it was heavier, gave him challenges... Absolutely ridiculous wasted potential
@@endeavourforpeace I wouldn’t have even cared if din did or didn’t end up the ruler if he could just show some skill with the saber like he did with the spear I would be happy
When we talk about "The way" we are talking about the "way of the Manda 'lor". The problem I see is they don't tell us which Manda'lor are the following. If we are talking about "Manda'lor Tarre Vizsla", then Din Djarn should know what the Darksaber is. Now we know this is a tv show, so someone has to fill in the audience on what the darksaber is. But they could of found a better way to do it. It could also be Manda'lor the Great but no one has told us which "Manda'lor way" do they follow. What we do know is that they have to 1. Were Beskar armor 2. Do not have weapons made out of Beskar. Which is why the armorer melted the beskar spear down into chainmail armor for Grogo. 3. Must always were their helmet (change at the end of season 3) 4. foundling must be protected when under your care, even if it is your enemy. Why Din Djarn given Grogo to the Jedi, a group of people once at war with the Mandalorians, is "the way".
I enjoyed Seasons 1 and 2 of the show. But watched Book of Boba Fett, and I was afraid for S3. I thought S2 had ended on a good note and was excited where they were going to take the characters but when they showed up again in BoBF and basically undid all of that, well I was no longer invested. It also didn't take long for me to realize it was a bait and switch and the "Mandalorian" was Bo-Katan and she was taking over now. This isn't even taking into account the Gina Carano stuff, the trash fire that was Kenobi, and all the other stuff Lucasfilm/Disney managed to screw up since Season 2. And disclaimer: I like Bo-Katan, but this isn't her show. Nor should it have been about her uniting the Mandalorians that should've been Din's final arc. From lone wolf, to caretaker, to leader. At least, that's what I expected them to do and felt like that was the path they were setting for him.
Season 1 and 2 were actually good, so it's really strange to see people say that season 3 showed them that the show wasn't good in the first place. Like, no, season 1 and 2 were coherent. If a storyline was started, it was taken to conclusion. They had character development (S1: from ruthless bounty hunter who sells a baby to the Empire to compassionate protector, S2: from helmet cult fanatic to someone who removes his helmet in order to connect with Grogu). They had well-written and likeable side characters. Characters' actions had consequences (Din winning the darksaber meant Bo-Katan couldn't have it, the helmet cult didn't make special exceptions for Mary Sues, giving up Grogu meant not having Grogu, capturing Moff Gideon meant he would actually be in New Republic custody, etc). In my mind, it's fairly obvious that corporate goons kept interfering to the point where Favreau understandably stopped giving a shit about the garbage they were forcing him to create. The executives think that reuniting Din and Grogu will help sell toys or that firing Gina Carano will protect their brand image, but they fail to understand that their meddling fucks up the art so badly that they will probably make less money in the long run. These people seem to literally do more harm than good, and the only reason they dig into wokism is that it makes them impossible for their harebrained masters to fire.
Can we talk about how they didnt bother to look back at how super battle droids actually move? They've never been able to sprint its literally like they looked at battlefront 2 and said "yeah its good"
@@joshman35 I thought they say in the episode that the droids were repurposed/ converted into worker droids meaning the military hardware had been removed.
What irritates me the most about Bo Katan, is that not only does Book of Boba Fett say "she's a cautionary tale because she tried to rule off of right of blood," but she's also a COLOSSAL failure when it comes to leading the Mandalorians. She failed to prevent Maul from taking over. She failed to prevent the Empire from taking over. She failed to prevent the Empire from nuking them. She failed to secure the Darksaber, thus giving her right to rule, and leading to abandonment of her by her people. And this same woman is supposed to be the ones leading the Mandalorians NOW? A stiff breeze could take over Mandalore at this point, and her leadership is probably why the Mandalorians aren't even referenced in the Sequels (that and gross incompetence). On the Andor bit, I'm one of few people who dislikes Andor. My fear is that, rather than taking the deeper storytelling of Andor and actually adapting it to fit in with what Star Wars is at its core, they'll take the elements of Andor I hate like its general hopelessness and how characters all hate each other, and just make it the face of Star Wars. Disney doesn't get Star Wars. They have no understanding of why Star Wars was popular, and they don't understand why Star Wars isn't popular now. Only Disney could take a cow that you can milk for solid gold bars, and turn into a quarter machine in less than decade.
Bo Katan was also a war criminal that was helping her space-nazi boyfriend in several attempts to kill her sister. But, since the last arc of TCW according to Ahsoka she's a mentor and a good friend. Wtf? The cognitive dissonace Disney SW deals with certain characters is mesmerizing.
@@rebel_diamonds The only possible justification I can see is that they absolved her of those crimes because she tried to stop Maul. But... Attempted murder is still attempted murder. Just because you go to bat against the super evil guy doesn't mean you're suddenly absolved of all prior crimes.
Easily my biggest issue with Bo Katan. I didn't hate her as a minor antagonist in The Clone Wars, but since they've gone "SHES TEH RULAH OF MANDALOHHH!" all she's done is fuck up after fuck up after fuck up. She is literally failing upwards, she has pretty much zero wins under her belt, yet we're expected to believe SHE'S the best candidate for the title of Mandalore? Give me a break.
she is also a horrible monster of a villain... rewatch clone wars, she is 100% a villain and disney is desperately trying to make sure we dont remember it because they want another girl boss....
IDK, grim and dreary "every faction sucks" stories can work in Star Wars; just look at KOTOR II. But I agree that they shouldn't make everything like that, just like they shouldn't make everything a "lighthearted swashbuckling adventure" that the OT purists kept clamoring for (which is what led to BOBF and Mando season 3). There needs to be a balance, I guess.
Gus Fring's plan being "I want to be a Grey-Jedi Mandalorian badass!" is so unintentionally hilarious. His big plan, the reason he wanted Glub Shitto was to become a Mary Sue OC. It'd be like if Fring in Breaking Bad had this big plan to get Walter to make super-meth so he can become Emperor of New Mexico.
If Greef Karga was the old bounty distribution guy, why wouldn't he just hire a team of bounty hunters that he trusts to guard his city? Surely there were a few that he thought were alright people or at least trustworthy to follow through with their contracts
Or better yet, just train a citizen militia. He can clearly handle a blaster, so why wouldn't he just get 20 odd volunteers and train them how to shoot "Hey guys, we're on the edge of civilized space and outside of new republic jurisdiction, so I think that a small group of us should learn how to shoot and defend ourselves, y'know, just in case some rando pirates show up and try to cause trouble"
@@DillsyYourDaddy67 Hell, in that kind of location, why wouldn't there be people forming a militia themselves? If there's no organization law enforcement/military/whatever to break them up, why would they not just do it for the sake of defending their families+homes from invaders?
@@SoftisNelarisApparently in Star Wars, so many populations and even species are just entirely "peaceful" (read: "defenseless") just for bs reasons. Oh, why don't these people with obvious technology on a world ridden with bandits make basic weaponry? They're too "peaceful" for that. Why doesn't a burgeoning settlement with a growing target on its back have even a single person besides the guy in charge with a blaster? Oh, they're all just too "peaceful" for whatever reason.
It's so wild, I legit remember at least going "oh wow this is going to be interesting." When seeing Bo having to eat by herself. Thinking that it would actually be a small plot point in her buildup to basically overrule alot of their creed eventually. Making them realize that they can't even do such minor things together due to the strictness of their creed. But I guess that lonely feeling it gave was completely artificial, because they gave it no room whatsoever & just kind of forgot about it.
The reason Mando let Peli Motto's droids fix his ship at the beginning of season 2 was because he grew to be less hateful towards droids because of his experience with IG-11 in season 1. My massive issue with the droid episode in this season was that Mando did a *complete 180* on that development and became hateful towards droids again even though he tried to bring back IG-11 several episodes ago.
Personally I really liked the beskar spear he had and felt like it was more representative of him. Would have been interesting to see it become a symbol of Mandalore's leadership, replacing the Dark Saber.
Really disliked the whole "oh Beskar is meant for Armor, not weapons" shtick the Armorer pulled. Like... What? What about the whistling bird mini-missiles? Aren't those made of Beskar? And why this weird gatekeeping of how to use Beskar? It's such a cool concept to have Beskar weapons. That woulda totally made sense in terms of "Mandos are terrifying enough to fight Jedi & win" (if the new canon even has that, I don't bother with looking into that because I know the EU will enlighten me further with cooler-than-current knowledge). Yeah, their armor AND weapons are lightsaber-resistant, without even considering how many weapons a single Mandalorian can have on themself XD
I think everybody needs to sit down and think about what's actually important; my parents love this show and they're going to be sad when they finally get around to watching season 3 and it's not as good. Please send thoughts and prayers during these trying times.
I really need to start up my own channel, because while you and Master Samwise have pointed out plenty of inconsistencies and stupidity in this show, there is still sooo much more to point out! My favorite is how in the penultimate episode Mando gets separated by blast doors, the Mandos do NOTHING while watching, start to SHOOT at the blast doors, while using the darthsabre to escape in the other direction, instead of cutting through the FRONT blast door. Then, Gideon orders his minions them to raise the blast door, the thing protecting them from the barrage of fire that is completely invalidated by said blast doors. The 15+ Mandos keep escaping instead of helping Minigunguy, he cuts himself off for NO REASIN, while keeping up the pounding of DOZENS of Beskartroopers. He won, imagine what he could have achieved if Bo stayed with him, yet alone all 15 Mandos in that room ("Mandalorians stay together" no, apparently they don't). Or how they emptied their whole star cruiser for no apparent reason. EVERYONE besides ONE GUY left that ship, WHY!? And him needing to kamikaze it into the facility where the main characters already are, potentially killing them... They have honestly stopped trying so hard, it is just a comedic show now and they are trying to tell us that by just dialing the ridiculousness and stupidity up to 11. This is underlined by the last shot where they did - i kid you not - a FRIGGIN LONEY TOONES "That's all, folks!" outro. It is just incredible. Talk about suspension of disbelief, i couldn't believe 1/10th of this BS if i had all the drugs of the world in my bloodstream. Just wow.
For me the biggest problem with this season is that it felt like it was all just setup to get mando back into bounty hunting because writting simple bounty hunting stories is easier and worked better.
I would have liked to see Mando slip back to being a ruthless bounty hunter after he returned Grogu in S2. They could have explored how without Grogu he falls back to the only thing he knew.
Goddamn it Sheev. Just let people enjoy things. Its a show intended for children. You people will find ways to complain about everything. On all seriousness very happy you got the video up after the troubles. Had a great day today because of you and Jolly.
I will say about the Beskar, it is mentioned in other lore that due to beskar becoming rare even on mandalore, they began using beskar alloys which were obviously weaker. Din's armor is pure beskar while the armor of the other mandalorians and even more so the storm troopers is not.
Check out DarthAngelus. He made an animated adaptation of the first half of Heir to the Empire. Despite budget limitations he did a fantastic job. Clocking in at almost 3 hours now.
@@sirpepeofhousekek6741 I read Revan and thought it was alright. Definitely didn’t ruin Legends for me lol. I loved way more in legends compared to what I love in canon. But everyone has different ideas of Star Wars.
Regarding never taking off their helmets, it’d make more sense if they can’t take their helmets off around *outsiders* but they could around each other. Then people in The Watch could eat together, etc. More like real-life cloisters and monasteries.
The most important thing about how Bo accepts the Dark Saber is that nobody but herself, Din and Grogu were a witness to that event, so the other Mandos don't even have credible proof that what Din says happened happened! At the best, it's a technicality, but at the very worst, you could just spin whatever tale you want to hand off the Dark Saber since apparently no one will question the credibility of your story even if there's literally no proof!
I didn't notice that about the Darksaber rules. Thank you for clarifying this. Also, Bo earning it because Din lost it to a robot, who lost it to Bo is logic a saw on an instagram meme before episode 3 aired. No joke
THANK YOU for mentioning the "direct democracy" thing; it's been bugging me since I watched the episode. A bunch of great points throughout -- the few videos I've seen on Mandalorian have been base-level "show bad" accusations more than actual criticisms and didn't really say *why* "show bad," but this one gave me a lot I wholeheartedly agree with.
I love watching your videos. They force me to think more critically of anything I watch and to pay more attention to story contrivances, plot holes and everything about it as a whole
Remember when IG-11 sacrificed himself for Mando and the child, exploding and obliterating himself? And it was good character development for Mando, removing some of his distrust for droids stemming from him seeing droids murder everyone when he was a child? Yeah I remember. But apparently disney don't.
I’m glad you questioned how did he know the pirates were working for the empire because when I was watching it that’s the first thing that came to my mind, I thought I missed something
When I was in elementary school, I made a custom Mandalorian costume for Halloween, and other kids only ever recognized me as Boba or Jango Fett. Now that I'm an adult I attended a convention in a new OC Mandalorian costume and everyone kept telling me "this is the way" Honestly I think I'm starting to prefer when no one else knew what a Mandalorian was over everyone recognizing this bastardized version as "mandalorians"
Oh man. Absolutely. I’m a OC Mando cosplayer myself and I cannot tell you how sick I am of either being called “Boba Fett” or being told “this is the way”. Anytime somebody says this to me now, I just give a thumbs up like “yeah, cool.” Although, at the last con I attended, someone did call me Axe Woves which was very refreshing, despite the fact my kit looks absolutely nothing like his 😂
Almost makes you feel like an actual Mandalorian. Like "Oh great, you know the Death Watch Youth Organization's cult motto! Good job, now how do you wish to die: Blaster, Blade, or OBLITERATION?
Tony Gilroy (Andor), with Susanna White and Benjamin Caron should have done Mando S3... as well as anything Fett, and everything else Stars Wars. End of story
Remember they were saying the same thing about Filoni and Favreau being the ones who saved Star Wars? And now that applies to Gilroy? At the end of the day KK runs the show and/or (haha) these guys get power drunk and end up f*cking up everything
You missed Toby Haynes (thought he was the best director). But in all seriousness no one would touch such a show or concept with these characters because there isn’t enough meat on the bone. And even if there was and they did it differently, they would forgo trying to include stupid cameos thereby not making it as popular with the masses.
Yeah, think Dune or Foundation... progressive content. It amazes me how certain show content (writing, directing) gets green lit for viewing, happens with a lot of shows with good brands, look what happened with the LOTR series...
Good vid! Will mention that I believe they said in the show that the troops wore beskar alloy. So it is explained how pure beskar could block lightsabers while the troops armor was weaker.
14:50 nailed it, I was so hoping that would be the direction they'd take, especially when they seemingly set that up when he first meets Bo in season 2. I even thought the idea of Bo Katan or the Mandalorian creating a new Mandalorian culture was being foreshadowed in episode 1 with the kid who's ceremony gets interrupted, he doesn't speak the whole creed, specifically the part that the Mandalorian disobeyed, which would've been a great bit of foreshadowing if the season ended with a similar scenario but for the new culture. Had the writers focused on the differing Mandalorian cultures by having them meet earlier on, really flesh out their beliefs and show why each side sees value in them could've easily been compelling, especially if the Mandalorian maybe saw the flaws in his own beliefs and there was the threat of a civil war breaking out any second. On top of the terrible execution where the pacing dragged only to then rush to the finish line at the last two episodes, the whole premise of reclaiming Mandalore even prior to the season's release didn't interest me, and the show gave me no reason to care about Mando's redemption, his cult, Bo Katan's people, or Mandalore as a planet, none of it interested me before this season and I cared even less after it. Not to mention after waiting three seasons for Moff Gideon to get some degree of actual characterization beyond Giancarlo Esposito's performance, or to get some clue into his grand plan as to why he wanted Grogu it came down to 'I'll just spill my guts about the generic plan I had okay I'm dead now maybe bye!' Only thing I'll give this season is that pirate king was a neat design, that and Skinny Pete showing up were the only things that got any degree of a reaction out of me.
Earning redemption bathing in the Waters of Mandalor is only a quest after Mandalor is "destroyed". Before the Empire wrecked Mandalor bathing in the Waters of Mandalor was something like catching a bus to your local swimming pool.
While this wasn't the case 9n every scene, the plates of beskar defended against shots, but the fabric between didn't. I agree that they went down too quickly at times, but wanted to point out the weakness they themselves tried to go for. That and kinetic kills of flying into rocks.
Yup. After watching Andor, I was reminded what could have been and I've been critical about everything else ever since. So much so that I'm practically allergic to Disney Star Wars now.
I completely agree with what you said, especially the cult being clearly shown to be a bad influence for Din but are now regarded as the good guys. The only thing I can add is that the third season managed to achieve one other disastrous thing, that is to look like shit compared to the prior seasons (s1 especially)
I really enjoyed your video man, i still don’t understand why they not only throw away opportunities to develop characters and add world building, but they literally retcon their own shit. I wish they would get writers and show runners who actually know how to do their jobs properly.
My favorite ep in the entire series is the one where he sneaks into the imp base with Bill Burr. It was cool seeing Drin so vulnerable for once, being able to actually see Pascal’s face immediately makes the show so much more interesting. There’s so much emotion and depth lost when they constantly come up with reasons to hide his face, why? S3 biggest fault is basically resetting everything that happened in the previous 2 seasons and somehow making Drin boring. I wish they would’ve allowed Drin to have his own season to hisself instead. Putting him in more uncomfortable situations and explore his identity more! Alas what we got was a halfassed attempt to filler space between more exciting projects lol, which is where all the talent and money went btw
Speaking of Bo Katan, one of the more interesting things you can do if you return to the classic Star Wars Era post-Prequels and post-TCW is that you can sensibly reflect on the Clone Wars from the POV of the fight against the Empire. The OC couldn‘t have done this since nobody knew what the Clone Wars actually were, and this pretty much goes for Legends as well. But now with a whole, well-established and well-remembered canon regarding the Republic, Clone Wars and Order 66. And now you have characters that actually fought for the Republic and the CIS and the Rebellion can feasibly bring some of these people together. And of course the Rebellion itself inevitably brings new people to the fight that weren‘t in the Clone Wars at all and don‘t care about it. With these three groups alone you could do so much. Maybe there are even people who consciously rejected taking sides at the time and aren now vindicated. I cannot stress enough how interesting it would have been for a Star Wars story to really get into this. It‘s something we could have learned something from. 90% of wars in the real world are exactly like the Clone Wars, where it arguably would have been better not to take sides at all, and most people never get to reflect on that. George Lucas was actually kind of brilliant to create a conflict like that.
Imagine if the sequels were about Maul creating a Mandalorian/ criminal undergound army as big as the Empire fighting the new republic....wait that was George's original sequel idea.
The most emotion that I got out of this season is when Paz Vizla died (Who I called Grudge and didn't even think had a name until he died) solely because of how much i liked him ironically
It makes a lot more sense when you remember that Disney bought Star Wars to sell toys, not to tell coherent stories that don't retcon things or make sense
Oh I'm so glad that someone finally acknowledged the fact that the Children of the Watch are the bad guys. Asides from the major problem that the no helmet removal rules are inconsistent, make no sense and contradict previously established lore, it's also just completely impractical to have a rule where you can never show your face around anyone. You see this clearly in season 3, during that stupid campfire scene, where they all have to go off alone, in the dark, to eat separately. That is the least of the basic everyday problems that would occur from trying to live like this. If they had made it so they could only show their faces around other Watch members, that could have made it a bit more believable, but the way they did it just doesn't work. Hell, the very existence of these cultists contradicts what was shown in Clone Wars and Rebels, which probably explains why we get almost no backstory or worldbuilding around them whatsoever. If I'd been tasked with writing Season 3, I'd have made the Blacksmith the villain, who made up the entire thing. That would go a long way to explaining why the rules make no sense, and why this was never a thing in the previous shows. I'd have made it so she was a former Maul supporter (since she's got the horns and everything) who, after the siege of Mandalore, escaped custody with Paz Vizla and a few other warriors. They went and formed this new cult and made up The Way, as a means to indoctrinate the orphans they kidnapped into becoming a new loyal army. Her ultimate goal would have been to supplant Bo Katan with her new army, as she sees her as a traitor for refusing to submit to Maul after he defeated Pre Vizla and unworthy to rule Mandalore. This would have enabled the writers to involve Bo Katan in a more meaningful way, whilst also giving loads of room to actually turn Din into a real character. You could have had Din go to Bo Katan for help with getting to the mines of Mandalore, after being kicked out, only for her to reveal that myth of the living waters was never real and he'd been lied to his entire life. He'd refuse to believe it, at first, but then slowly come to realize that nothing about his creed adds up with how all the other Mandalorians act and the history they've told him about. He'd then go to confront the Blacksmith and question her in front of all the others. She'd call him a heretic and order her warriors to kill him, forcing him to retreat and barely escape with his life. He'd then go back to Bo Katan and have his big moment, where he takes off his helmet in front of her and pledges to help her unite the remaining true Mandalorians against the Watch. They'd then have a big fight against the fake Mandos, leading to the real Mandos accepting Din as one of their own for helping to save their planet.
star wars is so focused on creating a marvel like universe that they forget to make good stand alone shows. why would they ruin a good thing by transferring the plot to another mediocre series and make a lukewarm third season for the madnalorian? i think the main problem is because pedro couldn’t be on set they were limited in their options for din character development. disappointing but i don’t think they had another choice but to have him step aside for basically the whole season.
I dont think it was much to do with Pedro Pascal being there or not they film plenty of times without him. They can still give Din development. It only matters if he's taking the helmet off and they made it clear he is still too dedicated to the creed for that.
Am I the only one who wanted to see a mandalorian debate on whether to join the new republic or to restart their mandalorian empire? Could’ve been interesting modernism vs tradition
Episode 6 was a real kick in the bollocks because it had *SO* Much potential. A hedonistic hyper rich society that's walled itself off from the rest of the universe to live a hyper libertarian dream, where (supposedly) unthinking automatons carry out the whims of the decadent are now faltering and generations of laziness means no one is physically able of understanding what to do. It's a brilliant sci-fi concept that could've been fleshed out so much; perhaps a Droids Rights group is sabotaging them, maybe old CIS protocols were accidentally activated and they've gone kill crazy, or hell maybe the droids are simply serving the whims of the upper classes and thousands of once employed lower class works now rot in an undercity attempting to seize control with the help of the Mandalorian mercs. There is so much that could be done, but instead we get boring cartoon hijinks with stiff cardboard characters and FUCKING Lizzo of all people, it was yet another cool idea that was shit on because Disney still thinks star wars is a film series for 12 year olds. Can't wait to not watch Season 4 and Ahsoka which will continue to fuck up badly.
The two redeeming parts of this season were the battle of Nevarro and the first half of the first battle with the jet troopers, and that only because we got to see the Mandalorians actually acting and fighting like soldiers in easy-to-follow scenes that allowed the audience to understand the flow of the battle. Aaaaaaand then there was the perfect Marvel movie climax in that jetpack-on-jetpack melee that threw all my good will into the trash compactor.
this season is really good when it isn’t forcibly speedrunning Rangers of the New Republic so hard that it’s first two episodes had to get pushed into another show that came out over a year before itself. 6/10; you can _hear_ Faverau’s annoyance with the plot elements he had to work with if you listen close enough. I’m definitely interested in Season 4 though, since if nothing else the finale of what I’m gonna call the “Imperial Remnant Arc” set up a return to form that isn’t as likely to be meddled with by the studio, directly or otherwise, because BOBF and Mando S3 both clearly suffered from the story they were trying to tell being impacted by the Gina Carino Incident™️ and at least the latter is freer from having to deal with that happening in the future. Especially glad that Grogu is actually going to have a place in the show again, too, since it’s PAINFULLY obvious that nobody on the writing team intended for him to be here. Similar issues with TROS happening here overall, although on a smaller scale - studio demands and previous content (or lack thereof) creating unrealistic standards setting up a new entry for partial failure at best. Recovery is definitely possible, but we’ll have to wait and see.
This season was the season of all time. The characters did some things. There was action. Grogu was in it. There was CGI. The music played. Dialogue was spoken. Score/10
Truly the Star Wars ever
@@ToweringPepsiMan ???
Star Wars.
It was absolutely the third season of the Mandalorian.
Emilia Clarke was wrong, this was the "best season ever" :P trolllolol
Maybe a minor complaint, but did anyone find it annoying that Paz died for like, nothing? Someone could've easily covered him and he could've escaped too, and regardless his death wasn't narratively built up at all and felt sudden. And then his death wasn't mentioned a single time after that.
Absolutely terrible writing.
You're forgetting that the weapons that killed him did nothing to Din....it's the same fkin set of weapons, but all the sudden they can't cut through gaps in Dins armor.
@@0giraffe0 Yeah the whole beskar armor thing is extremely inconsistent in the final episodes. Like in season 2 we see Din be literally unstoppable and tank like 20-30 blaster shots at a time (think storming the cruiser with Bo or the fight with Boba) yet here guys are dying after like 1 shot to the chest.
They made beskar extremely powerful and also extremely useless
They just needed some death fodder to show how "dire" the situation was.
@@chasehedges6775 I liked until they brought Lizzo and jack black in then it kamakized in terms of writing
"Somehow the bad writing returned"
This was never the way
Not the first time under the Filoni and Favraeu, nor the last time.
The whole show sucks tbh
@@shaneh3109nah just one season
@@brewmaster2912 Season 1 was great, a breath of fresh air that finally explored some new characters for once. Season 2 immediately threw the old fan favorite characters back at us and gave us more of the same. Not bad, not great. Season 3 was just awful.
I think the worst thing about this Era of starwars is that with the depiction the new republic being so ineffective it devalues everything the rebellion fought for. Like, why watch any starwars now knowing its all for nothing and any victory is short lived until Palpatine is finally destroyed... again.
Seriously the Sequels should have been about protecting the New Republic one that is still stabilizing with good people in charge against a new threat.
Anything produced by Disney is non canon. It is literally fan fiction. With no involvement with George Lucas, all this shit is, by DEFINITION, fan fiction. It’s all fake. You can just point and laugh at all this dumpster fire while saving all the cherished memories of episodes 1-6 and legends material
@@Triceratronz George Lucas didn’t even consider most of legends canon lol
There shouldn't have been an immediate change of government in the first place. The death of the emperor doesn't mean the empire is suddenly gone. The process of ridding the galaxy of the empire should at least have taken like 10 years and tons of battles.
Even George screwed this up by adding Jar Jar and all the planets galaxy-wide celebrating at the end of Jedi.
I haven't finished Jedi Survivor yet, but it seems to very strongly start into a mindset of "Are we really changing anything?" with what I presume is a decently positive attempt at an answer for this. But like you said, Palpatine just rises after 30 years and every legacy main character has become a deadbeat alcoholic old person basically. It's going to be something to potentially see all the post order 66 survivors return to recreate the council with Rey. With Luke & Leia maybe only being there as bits of fanservice as they pretty much don't amount to anything else now that they're dead.
Its absolutely hilarious how Moff Gideon does the most over the top "I am going to yell at the sky with my fists raised up" villain pose as he dies.
"Old man yells at clouds"
Rumor has it he recorded the line "I'll get you next time, Mando!" but they thought it was too well written and canned it
Gideon be like *Ding* *ding* *ding* "HAAWW!"
You think he's dead?
He's not dead, no one ever dies anymore
The mango season 3 was doomed the minute they returned Grogu in BOBF. I can't imagine that was the writers' initial plan, and it REALLY shows. Glad I watched reviews of this instead of the actual show
Where can I watch seasons 1 and 2 of Mango? Sounds great
@@roelofm2904 Fruit+
Unfortunately grogu is there cash cow. I’m sure we all know somebody who watches or has watched the show because of “baby yoda”. Disney knows this and knew they couldn’t lose him even if writing wise it made the most sense to ditch him for a little bit. We were always gonna be stuck with him as long as Disney is still trying to make their money back.
when I heard Grogu was back I legit thought a co-worker was trolling me because I wasn't interested in the Boba show and had said I'd skip S3 is Grogu came back. They couldn't wait till the next season to turn the S2 ending into a melodramatic cringe-fest. "Good bye Grogu...see you after you're done at Jedi summer camp in 2 months."
Blame Kathleen Kennedy. Solely her decision.
This thumbnail evokes more emotion on me than anything Din did this season
anything Din did.*
Wait Din did something this season
Tom cruise smile
you know why that is???cuz these live action shows have 2 emotions....fake mad, and fake badass lol emotionless plastic garbage
He kicked a droid one time. That's about it.
Paz Visla died the way he lived. Being way too aggressive and surviving far more blaster bolts than anyone realistically should. (Did they just forget between Bad Batch and now how to make a stun blaster?) Also the scene where he's important before his "sacrifice" is him attempting to kill a man over a difference in chess rules. Real memorable character there can't wait to find out he's still alive in season 6.
Speaking of the blaster stun setting, I recently realized that lightsabers can't deflect them back at the shooter. Kinda weird nobody thought to use that as an anti-Jedi tactic.
@@RelativelyBest Ahsoka, Dave Filoni's OC donunsteel, showed Jedi can cut them in half when launched from distance.
They used one on Grogu in season 2. I think the main reason they don't use them, is that the effect looks cheap as shit. The other reason being that they would prevent the story from unfolding the way they want it to...
@@OKMBVideos donunsteel?
@@OKMBVideos I am aware. Ahsoka being Best Jedi aside, the point is that they can't turn stun bolts against you, and that alone is pretty significant.
If s2 ended with Bo Getting the Dark saber, Grogru staying with Din and Gideon getting away we could of skipped like the first 6 episodes of s3
Real
They legit spent half of season 3 *and* BOBF backpedaling on what season 2 had built up.
but then how would Grogu know how to do a flip? Your house of cards is crumbling!
Kenobi came for his kidneys and pancreas. Mando season 3 came for everything else
Got me fearing what Ashoka has left to take.
@@Annmjpg his soul
And flash came for his grandmother
@@Spacewizard54321 if Ahsoka is bad too then my soul is gone also. We’re all left begging for scraps by now
Fucking clever m8
I think that Paz dying was literally Jon Favreau wanting to kill himself after seeing how the season turned out. I wouldn't be surprised if that wasn't his resignation scene.
I’ve seen people say that it’s thematic representation of favreau being gutted by the Disney suits it’s bit of a reach but it’s funny
OMG, I just said something similar, but in a way meaner way. I'll copy and paste it
"He didn't die for nothing, he died because the tub of lard that plays the character got butt hurt and doesn't want to do another season. Someone else could've worn the helmet, he killed him off out of spite, I don't blame him."
🤣😂
Somehow he still has an executive producer credit in future shows.
TO MY PERSPECTIVE
*Season 1 Worked well because it was a genuine Risk, They put so little on it yet the result was really impressive*
*-Season 2 is were the problems started, since it wasn't a Mandalorian Season 2, rathee commercials to future projects(& 1/2 of them have been cancelled)*
_Season 3 is clearly a Show with 0 goals & Random Shinanigans to fill the 8 Ep gap, since they aren't really going to any direction_
Just to know, what were the cancled show?
@@funninoriginal6054 there was gonna be a show with Cara Dune and some of her New Republic pals, but Disney scrapped that after the actress said or did something that Disney didn’t like.
@@ridergilwin1494 I remember part of it was that she was openly transphobic which was is disgusting on itself because Pedro Pascals sister is a trans woman. I believe there was other reasons but I don't remember
What annoys me the most about the New Republic in both this show and the Sequel trilogy is that it acts like previous incarnation of the Republic, i.e. corrupt, slow to react to threats etc. However, the original Republic had thousands of years to slide into corruption and decadence. The New Republic has had 30 years and to suggest that this would happen in that short amount of time just feels unrealistic, especially without any mega corrupting force like Palpatine in the Prequels.
And given what we learned from Mando season 3, it did not take even 30 years to fall into such corruption and inefficiency, but instead five. At this point, that security guy had a point. Someone just needs to make a revived Confederacy of Independent Systems since for all their problems, at least they got shit done.
Yeah it definitely feels like the new republic has to be written as incompetent and/or nearly as bad as the empire now in order to accommodate a mediocre sequel trilogy where they didn't bother to even half-explain the rise of the first order.
@@jtillman8251 Sooo sadly true.
Yeah, the new government would be a swift, fast acting one that got shit done, due to it being new, probably comprised of younger people with morals, and well before the system could build up a massive inertia due to getting too big internally and beaurocratically
Obviously the New Republic makes no sense, because Disney is retarded beyond all belief
Nah the New Republic makes sense. Most of the territory they inhabited consists of a generation of people who were influenced by imperial propaganda and corruption. The writers took some mayor inspiration from real history here, the New Republic seems like an extrem representation of the great flaws of Konrad Adenaur’s time as Bundeskanzler of the BRD, after the fall of the Third Reich.
Silly question, but if Moff Gideon AGAIN, defeated Bo Katan, but Axe Woves dropped a cruiser on him and defeated him, shouldn't he be the rightful ruler of Mandalore?!
I mean it's in their silly rules as per Favreau and Filoni.
Luke should be because Obi-wan beat visla (idk and don't care if I got his name right), Vader beat Obi-wan, Luke beat Vader
@@SuperDababy2 And then Rey beat Luke...
@@Сайтамен Yeah but that non-sense hasn't happened yet at that point in time so we're still safe in that regard
@@SuperDababy2 It's funny cause the saber thing was originally just meant to be symbolic only, then in Rebels and now Mando they've made it a literal requirement to be ruler.
@@DillsyYourDaddy67 yeah idk why they're acting like it is. Wasn't it only meant to provide a CLAIM to be the ruler of Mandalore, not automatically make the wielder the ruler?
God i loved Andor. Just proves that Star Wars still has potential to be a great setting for storytelling
only to fail because real star wars fans have given up on star wars... now we are in the dark times.... during the empire.
and general audiences and fake star wars fans didnt watch it because it was slower, didnt have a ton of nostalgia/prequel memes to get the clapping seals to enjoy it.
plus it was about a dead character no one cares about..... that would be like if disney decided their next star wars trilogy would be about yadel from the prequels.... most people would go who the fuck is that?!?!
or worse they make a trilogy about fucking tom bombadil from lord of the rings and no one notices they got their franchises mixed up
@@ninvusoogoar6098even if saying "fake fans" is cliché, there's not really any other way to call them, and if they love all the lightsabers instead of a a good story why don't they shove one up their ass
@@ninvusoogoar6098people just too afraid to give stuff a chance its annoying cuz yeah i thought it was boring as hell a couple episodes but gave it a chance and it was amazing but most starwars fans that didnt give up are cartoon fans and the cartoons are so goofy childish and always full of action so something like andor just doesnt translate as starwars to them
@@jilliebean6312 well those morons think ahsoka is the greatest thing ever and will save star wars, which its not.
its way slower than andor but while andor is a slow burn ahsoka has nothing to burn.
andor has a lot of world building issues and the writing is not good in most of the show. i think disney creates scenes (a good handful are good/cool) before anything else, and then tries desperately to web it all together. which is why you see sooo many characters break character for the plot to happen.
i couldnt really stand watching andor, didnt feel like star wars. felt like a spy thriller done poorly while larping as star wars. i chop it up to the fact i do not like slow/slow burn movies/tv, i walked out of the bladerunner sequels due to it being so boring and slow. only to rewatch it again and skip past the boring atmosphere stuff.
with andor they could of sped it up a bit or scrap the entire show and make a new one about a character we actually give a fuck about.
it's funny cuz when it was first announced people were bitching and were like "who asked for this guy to get his show"
One thing that Bad Batch season 2 did that I liked and I thought this season was gonna do as well was after the republic became the empire, all the people who were a part of the separatist alliance started pointing fingers and saying "See see, I told you this was gonna happen, this was exactly what Count Dooku was trying to warn us about"
Another thing Bad Batch season 2 did was actually be emotional, i mean those two final episodes were some real Empire Strikes Back shit.
I also still want to know where all those Mandalorians came from. Like, the last time we saw the Amorer, she chilled on the scaffholding of a space station with no company apart from Paz Vizla, as all the other Children of the Watch left in Season 1. And next thing you know, they're all back?! When did that happen?
Someone they returned, idk
Remember the pile of helmets of all the killed mandos? I member
@@mememachine6022 The just said ^^vvBA start.
@@emperorlokire7648nes Contra's 30 lifes code
The woman that plays the Armorer is really beautiful, I don't see why they didn't take her helmet off... and slip Mando the tongue.
You forgot to mention that they said lightsabers can cut anything except beskar but now we’re seeing bo katan use a literal lightsaber to cut beskar wearing troops like butter
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@@haxmode6935 was Din not blocking the darksaber with his spear and armor in season 2 or am I misremembering things
@@haxmode6935 what’s you evidence? the part where din was using a beskar spear to block attacks from it or the literal line “can cut through anything…except beskar”? (All in s2 btw)
And no it doesn’t carry so much narrative because it can “cut through beskar” (which it can’t) it Carrie’s so much because all the mandalorian history behind it
@@BG_MONKY He was.
"the convenience Strikes back"
Disney, is it too much to ask that the title Character remains the main character for the whole season?
NO!!! we must have them eventually replace by a female character so we can have her slay queen slay girl boss it. we need to make a shitier version of true detective where we play hot potato with main characters, but with the twist of intersectional feminism #forceisfemale #ally #killmelolol
While I agree that it was not as good as the previous seasons I think this is a stupid comment. In EVERY single Star Wars film it moves away from the main character for a bit to see what other characters are doing.
@@Very-old-man Changing perspectives and changing the protagonist aren't actually the same thing, so the comment is fairly on point.
@@bigchungus6827 The OTS had 3 main characters, that they jumped between. I don’t feel that Bo Katans story was changing the main character per say. The main goal of the third season was reforming Mandalore, Din was a big part of that. While it did explore more Mandalorian characters I don’t think he was never the main character.
@@Very-old-man No, he fairly explicitly was, at least originally; it wasn't until S3 that they decided they'd rather have Bo Katan steering the ship. Nor does he really have any role in reforming Mandalore that couldn't have been done by other people. His main contributions are scanning to see if a planet is still gassed up and hovering vaguely around Bo.
So she literally accepted the Darksaber as a gift again..... lmao. No one would have her as a leader, as everyone would be saying "you accepted it as a gift last time and fcked up; doing this again?"
Even her sister, who was a literal pacifist and turned her back on the warrior ways, was a better Mandalore than her
If they were so hell bent on propping her up as a leader (for whatever reason) AGAIN they should've at least redeemed her. Make her assume and admit her wrong doings from the Clone Wars (ie not accepting Maul's rule, instigating terrorism, etc.) make her reflect on her choices from the past and learn and grow from her mistakes so that she can become (somewhat) of a fitting leader that people can trust. Instead everything gets handed to her through ridiculous technicalities with little to no effort and never reflects on her flaws etc so the whole "selfless leader" plot falls flat on its face.
@@xkmuffinzx3915 i agree but not accepting maul’s rule was correct until s3 fucked it and just said being bested by anyone in anyway means they have the right to claim the dark saber
@@xkmuffinzx3915nothing surprises me with Disney anymore. Remember the slave trader girl in Thor that he made King? Lol
I'm trying to remember what Bo-katan said in the show, when she was talking about when she surrendered to Moff Gideon to save Mandolore, she said he wanted the Darksaber, so she hands it over, that was how he originally got it. Wouldn't it have always been hers, or it has to be "won", like if she set it down to go take a piss, I pick it up, Mando kills me, picks up the Darksaber "winning it" from me in combat, so it's his now, he tries to give it back to Bo-katan, she says "No, it must be won in combat"?
After the season 2 finale I had a lot of hope that lucasfilms would turn their attention away from grogu and start developing Din as a character, give more lore to the mandalorian culture and begin an adventure that would make him the new mandalore to rule over his people.
Instead all I got was disappointment.
Yep. Book of Boba Fett is where it all went wrong and they just gave up on the writing.
Giving grogu to luke was just the biggest waste of time since he decided to just f off back to mando anyway. The whole build up in season 2 that grogu was finally going to be trained properly is ruined because 'we need to sell more grogu merchandise he can't leave the show!!!'
I, as well, am in severe pain after Season 3 stole my household, and set a plague on my cat. I got the reverse, count your blessings.
This season was a damn shame to witness. I really enjoyed the previous two seasons and watched season 3 and kept seeing potential continuously squandered
First 2 seasons were just beautiful.
This, Boba Fett, Kenobi are just absolute failures
Stop being a mindless consoomer
Season 1 and 2 were peak Star Wars stuff, this season was just kinda sad
@Villager on PS5 Peak Star Wars. Are you fucking with me? Dude, this show has always sucked. The problems that plague season 3 are all over the first 2. Aimless storytelling, barebones characters, ridiculous plot armor, bad action. All this show ever had going for it was great production value. As for the storytelling, you could take 3 episodes from each season, and I wouldn't be able to tell you which one's which.
@@jcore0981 Fair enough but the first 2 seasons were well done tho
There was literally so many things that could have been great in this season, especially in regards to Paz Vizsla and Bo Katan. There should have been some conversation between them about Pre Vizsla and some character building for Paz as a whole in regards on how he views his clan. The campfire scene in chapter 4 was LITERALLY perfect for that, only to end with Bo Katan alone in the fire. Not only that, if you look closely with some members of Children of the Watch, you can see that 3 of them have the Death Watch symbol, wouldn't this give Bo Katan some conflict with them considering her past with them being a former member and all?
See that requires good writing. And a care for the show.
Shit, they could have had Bo Katan actually address her past! When she was introduced in season 2, she insulted the children of the watch, despite being a former member of its parent group death watch, and took a seemingly 'holier than though' stance in regards to it. Unlike the children of the watch, which is a pretty harmless cult, deathwatch was an actual terrorist organization, with her actions having been far worse than Din Djarin's ever were. It just felt stupid for the writers to neglect this crucial aspect of her past, especially with the many opportunities for her to address it, leaving her seeming incredibly hypocritical and narcissistic.
How about cut the terrible fucking clone wars characters (who nobody cares about) out of the equation and make a story about new characters? Why can SW just not move forward? Why does everybody have to know everybody?
@@nearlydead7510 because Dave filoni can’t let go
@@maniac7302 Dave Filoni is fr like Anakin in one regard, can't let go of the ones he fears to lose.
I dont feel this was incompetence on Jon's part. I think he actually was partially not caring, due to having to tie up loose threads after so much got upended.
Gina Carano fired,
Grogu forced back (because it makes sense for Disney to force Jon to bring him back for sales),
Pedro at least being busy (Possibly having a disagreement, but we don't know for sure)
And Filoni, while around at times, had to focus on Ahsoka, & couldn't be around as much.
Favreau had to solve so much, it feels like he stopped caring, gave some base level things, filled an episode slot with Pershing from the intended "Rangers of the New Republic" show, filled part of another with cameos, and in the 2-part finale just went with lazy writing:
● Survivors that lead to the goal,
● The convenient monster,
● Cliche clone stuff,
● Easy resolutions.
The ending with Mando talking about working with the New Republic seems like the show resetting to basics.
Din & Grogu doing their thing, going around the galaxy.
I am cautiously optimistic for Ahsoka, and hope the movie does well.
I feel Boba Fett & Mando Season 3 were interfered with, and hope future things will be relatively left alone.
a lot of it is speculation even the stuff they release we cannot take as fact so i think its best we stop ourselves from putting blame on anybody, i mean clearly most public figures at disney have this public persona they gotta play so its kind of worthless judging them as people from that
@@creationfied While I don't consider Filoni and Favreau to be overly competent writers and directors, the shortcuts they've taken in the previous 2 seasons were at the very least bearable. There were contrivances, conveniences and a few plot holes glaring like a 60 year old porn star anus. But nothing was even remotely close what we were served in season 3. The show takes 4 episodes to find plot, 2 episodes to find characters and 2 episodes to fart a finale. I'm with Jansenbaker. Jon was dealt a really bad hand for Season 3 and he gave up on pretending he can write Star Wars.
God I hate that the book of boba fett and the mandalorian are treated as interchangeable. They should be their own projects with their own separate artistic identities, but instead they're more like components in a larger story machine. No soul, no passion, no joy, just tab A into slot B.
Even if you repeat yourself I will watch every single video of yours about these new Disney SW shows just to feel better that I’m not the only one thinking they’re genuinely SO BAD 🥲 all the toxic positivity and “star wars fans” LOVING these shows is just too much for me lol your work is very much needed
i hate the fact that they butchered my absolute favorite part of SW Lore namely Mandalorians. there is no part of their actual culture or way of life represented here in this show as it's all just replaced with some insane unlikeable cultist pricks who don't know the first thing about being a Mandalorian, and yet people think they are soooo sooo freaking cool, when they are just incompetent and unintelligent pricks running around in fancy armour that is nothing like what they would actually wear when unified or with their clans.
I know how you feel. The Disney adults who just consume everything without thinking about what they watch frustrate me so much.
Amen
Oh no, how dare people have opinions. How?
I found it particularly weird that the Mandalorians moved to Nevarro and it was a big deal that they could live there as a police force only for them to leave immediately...
As for the title i can confirm it's true (my region underwent agricultural turmoil and entered nuclear warfare because mandalorian season 3 - Stormcommando)
The apostate redemption only seems to have become a difficult thing since the Empire destroyed Mandalor. Before then it was just a bus ride to the local swimming pool.
To me, it was obvious that he was supposed to overcome his limitations to become a leader.
It feels like they just took his arc and replaced him with Bo Katan and made him into a supporting character.
Also bringing Grogu back was a mistake. This made all the sacrifices he went through meaningless.
And I won't blame Favrou for this, if my feeling is correct, it means he was pressured into doing this.
At least blame him for making mando… this show has been trash since episode 1
Nah. The show was always bad, but it does feel like he doesn't care anymore. I guess it could be that they made him make this because it was popular and he didn't give a fuck anymore
Bo Katan has failed on multiple times as leader of her people, why do people keep trusting her?
Isn’t she also a full on terrorist & villain? She was partly responsible for the fall of Mandalore in the first place
Din has accomplished so much across 2 seasons, he’s killed a Dragon, rode a Rancorm defeated Moff Gideon & a dark trooper in 1-on-1 combat, earned the trust of multiple Jedi & influential characters, he’s a complete badass & an overall good person, it makes more sense for him to become the next ruler of Mandalore combining the children of the Watch with Bo Katan’s crew to form a new kind of Mandalorian.
Nah, but that would mean that he’s better than Disney girlboss Kathl- I mean Bo Katan
She hasn’t been a terrorist for literal decades plus she’s sorta a royal and is just a better then mando from a leadership standpoint still sucks he gave up the dark saber just like that though
@@maniac7302 but she WAS a terrorist and that isn't something that you can just ignore. Like why did she even become good? She was absolutely evil when she was part of death watch, she knew about everything the death watch did and was compleatly fine with it. But when maul took over(and her ONLY problem was that maul isn't mandalorian) she suddenly became a good guy? Wtf is this writing? The only good thing she did as a leader also was just getting the help of the republik to overthrow maul, other then that she has a pretty bad track record. I have no idea why anyone would accept her as the leader
@@norberthiz9318 Bo Katan was a woman and Din Djarin wasn't. There was nothing we could do but to sit and take it.
@@norberthiz9318 Bo Katan along with the NiteOwls and some DeathWatch members left DeathWatch when Maul took over because they refused to accept him as leader do to Maul not being Mandalorian which essentially fractured the DeathWatch group
@@norberthiz9318as if Satine would've done any better, If death watch never took over then mandolore would've been a Piece of paper in comparison to the empire.
crazy how they revived the mythosaur and did literally nothing with it
Don't worry, they'll do something about it in Season 19
Mando without his armor after becoming an apostate would have been such an interesting arc the season could have explored. The last time he had no armor at all I think was when he was a child and his people were being slaughtered. To see him back to having no armor, having nothing, we could see him as his most vulnerable. We could see him explore and struggle with his relationship with his religion and his people. He's spent his entire life following the way, but now what can he do without his religion there for him to fall back to? Would have loved to see that but they never did it or even focused on Din this season.
I’m sorry about what happened hope your house recovers from the plague and you get your cat back.
It was a pleasant surprise with Andor but I definitely agree it raised the expectations of what we should expect from a star wars television series
I think the Darksaber being heavy to an unfamiliar user was something vaguely alluded to in Rebels before this, when Kanan is trying to teach Sabine how to wield it correctly.
yeah I remember Sabine finding it heavier at the start.
Which makes it sadly all the more worse that din could never not fight the blade and learn how to use it but the writers wiped their arse with that plot line
@@maniac7302 Literally. Half way into it they just throw Din’s arc away. They showed him training, explained why it was heavier, gave him challenges... Absolutely ridiculous wasted potential
@@endeavourforpeace I wouldn’t have even cared if din did or didn’t end up the ruler if he could just show some skill with the saber like he did with the spear I would be happy
And she just, learns to use it on her own somehow ,actively disreguarding the training.
When we talk about "The way" we are talking about the "way of the Manda 'lor". The problem I see is they don't tell us which Manda'lor are the following. If we are talking about "Manda'lor Tarre Vizsla", then Din Djarn should know what the Darksaber is. Now we know this is a tv show, so someone has to fill in the audience on what the darksaber is. But they could of found a better way to do it. It could also be Manda'lor the Great but no one has told us which "Manda'lor way" do they follow.
What we do know is that they have to
1. Were Beskar armor
2. Do not have weapons made out of Beskar. Which is why the armorer melted the beskar spear down into chainmail armor for Grogo.
3. Must always were their helmet (change at the end of season 3)
4. foundling must be protected when under your care, even if it is your enemy. Why Din Djarn given Grogo to the Jedi, a group of people once at war with the Mandalorians, is "the way".
I enjoyed Seasons 1 and 2 of the show. But watched Book of Boba Fett, and I was afraid for S3. I thought S2 had ended on a good note and was excited where they were going to take the characters but when they showed up again in BoBF and basically undid all of that, well I was no longer invested. It also didn't take long for me to realize it was a bait and switch and the "Mandalorian" was Bo-Katan and she was taking over now. This isn't even taking into account the Gina Carano stuff, the trash fire that was Kenobi, and all the other stuff Lucasfilm/Disney managed to screw up since Season 2.
And disclaimer: I like Bo-Katan, but this isn't her show. Nor should it have been about her uniting the Mandalorians that should've been Din's final arc. From lone wolf, to caretaker, to leader. At least, that's what I expected them to do and felt like that was the path they were setting for him.
This disclaimer: I’m glad I’m not the only one who pictured it that way.
Season 1 and 2 were actually good, so it's really strange to see people say that season 3 showed them that the show wasn't good in the first place. Like, no, season 1 and 2 were coherent. If a storyline was started, it was taken to conclusion. They had character development (S1: from ruthless bounty hunter who sells a baby to the Empire to compassionate protector, S2: from helmet cult fanatic to someone who removes his helmet in order to connect with Grogu). They had well-written and likeable side characters. Characters' actions had consequences (Din winning the darksaber meant Bo-Katan couldn't have it, the helmet cult didn't make special exceptions for Mary Sues, giving up Grogu meant not having Grogu, capturing Moff Gideon meant he would actually be in New Republic custody, etc). In my mind, it's fairly obvious that corporate goons kept interfering to the point where Favreau understandably stopped giving a shit about the garbage they were forcing him to create. The executives think that reuniting Din and Grogu will help sell toys or that firing Gina Carano will protect their brand image, but they fail to understand that their meddling fucks up the art so badly that they will probably make less money in the long run. These people seem to literally do more harm than good, and the only reason they dig into wokism is that it makes them impossible for their harebrained masters to fire.
Can we talk about how they didnt bother to look back at how super battle droids actually move? They've never been able to sprint its literally like they looked at battlefront 2 and said "yeah its good"
The wrist rockets and blasters were probably removed since they are no longer fighting clones or working security.
@@alexwest2573 yeah but if that were the case wouldn't they tell us that if they were good writers?
@@joshman35 I thought they say in the episode that the droids were repurposed/ converted into worker droids meaning the military hardware had been removed.
What irritates me the most about Bo Katan, is that not only does Book of Boba Fett say "she's a cautionary tale because she tried to rule off of right of blood," but she's also a COLOSSAL failure when it comes to leading the Mandalorians.
She failed to prevent Maul from taking over.
She failed to prevent the Empire from taking over.
She failed to prevent the Empire from nuking them.
She failed to secure the Darksaber, thus giving her right to rule, and leading to abandonment of her by her people.
And this same woman is supposed to be the ones leading the Mandalorians NOW? A stiff breeze could take over Mandalore at this point, and her leadership is probably why the Mandalorians aren't even referenced in the Sequels (that and gross incompetence).
On the Andor bit, I'm one of few people who dislikes Andor. My fear is that, rather than taking the deeper storytelling of Andor and actually adapting it to fit in with what Star Wars is at its core, they'll take the elements of Andor I hate like its general hopelessness and how characters all hate each other, and just make it the face of Star Wars. Disney doesn't get Star Wars. They have no understanding of why Star Wars was popular, and they don't understand why Star Wars isn't popular now.
Only Disney could take a cow that you can milk for solid gold bars, and turn into a quarter machine in less than decade.
Bo Katan was also a war criminal that was helping her space-nazi boyfriend in several attempts to kill her sister. But, since the last arc of TCW according to Ahsoka she's a mentor and a good friend. Wtf? The cognitive dissonace Disney SW deals with certain characters is mesmerizing.
@@rebel_diamonds The only possible justification I can see is that they absolved her of those crimes because she tried to stop Maul.
But... Attempted murder is still attempted murder. Just because you go to bat against the super evil guy doesn't mean you're suddenly absolved of all prior crimes.
Easily my biggest issue with Bo Katan. I didn't hate her as a minor antagonist in The Clone Wars, but since they've gone "SHES TEH RULAH OF MANDALOHHH!" all she's done is fuck up after fuck up after fuck up. She is literally failing upwards, she has pretty much zero wins under her belt, yet we're expected to believe SHE'S the best candidate for the title of Mandalore? Give me a break.
she is also a horrible monster of a villain... rewatch clone wars, she is 100% a villain and disney is desperately trying to make sure we dont remember it because they want another girl boss....
IDK, grim and dreary "every faction sucks" stories can work in Star Wars; just look at KOTOR II. But I agree that they shouldn't make everything like that, just like they shouldn't make everything a "lighthearted swashbuckling adventure" that the OT purists kept clamoring for (which is what led to BOBF and Mando season 3). There needs to be a balance, I guess.
Gus Fring's plan being "I want to be a Grey-Jedi Mandalorian badass!" is so unintentionally hilarious.
His big plan, the reason he wanted Glub Shitto was to become a Mary Sue OC.
It'd be like if Fring in Breaking Bad had this big plan to get Walter to make super-meth so he can become Emperor of New Mexico.
If Greef Karga was the old bounty distribution guy, why wouldn't he just hire a team of bounty hunters that he trusts to guard his city? Surely there were a few that he thought were alright people or at least trustworthy to follow through with their contracts
Or better yet, just train a citizen militia. He can clearly handle a blaster, so why wouldn't he just get 20 odd volunteers and train them how to shoot
"Hey guys, we're on the edge of civilized space and outside of new republic jurisdiction, so I think that a small group of us should learn how to shoot and defend ourselves, y'know, just in case some rando pirates show up and try to cause trouble"
@@DillsyYourDaddy67 Hell, in that kind of location, why wouldn't there be people forming a militia themselves? If there's no organization law enforcement/military/whatever to break them up, why would they not just do it for the sake of defending their families+homes from invaders?
@@SoftisNelarisApparently in Star Wars, so many populations and even species are just entirely "peaceful" (read: "defenseless") just for bs reasons. Oh, why don't these people with obvious technology on a world ridden with bandits make basic weaponry? They're too "peaceful" for that. Why doesn't a burgeoning settlement with a growing target on its back have even a single person besides the guy in charge with a blaster? Oh, they're all just too "peaceful" for whatever reason.
It's so wild, I legit remember at least going "oh wow this is going to be interesting." When seeing Bo having to eat by herself. Thinking that it would actually be a small plot point in her buildup to basically overrule alot of their creed eventually. Making them realize that they can't even do such minor things together due to the strictness of their creed. But I guess that lonely feeling it gave was completely artificial, because they gave it no room whatsoever & just kind of forgot about it.
I cried when Moff showed up and said, “Gideons, assemble!”
The reason Mando let Peli Motto's droids fix his ship at the beginning of season 2 was because he grew to be less hateful towards droids because of his experience with IG-11 in season 1. My massive issue with the droid episode in this season was that Mando did a *complete 180* on that development and became hateful towards droids again even though he tried to bring back IG-11 several episodes ago.
Personally I really liked the beskar spear he had and felt like it was more representative of him. Would have been interesting to see it become a symbol of Mandalore's leadership, replacing the Dark Saber.
Did it even appear in the show? I dont remember seeing it.
@GALVY88 the spear? It was in season 2. It is what Mando used to duel Moff Gideon who was weilding the darksaber.
@@simplegarak oh right, i completely forgot it existed in the first place, it got melted to make chain armor for grogu right?
@@galvy883 Something like that. It was a shame because I thought it made a pretty great prop.
Really disliked the whole "oh Beskar is meant for Armor, not weapons" shtick the Armorer pulled. Like... What? What about the whistling bird mini-missiles? Aren't those made of Beskar? And why this weird gatekeeping of how to use Beskar? It's such a cool concept to have Beskar weapons. That woulda totally made sense in terms of "Mandos are terrifying enough to fight Jedi & win" (if the new canon even has that, I don't bother with looking into that because I know the EU will enlighten me further with cooler-than-current knowledge). Yeah, their armor AND weapons are lightsaber-resistant, without even considering how many weapons a single Mandalorian can have on themself XD
I think everybody needs to sit down and think about what's actually important; my parents love this show and they're going to be sad when they finally get around to watching season 3 and it's not as good. Please send thoughts and prayers during these trying times.
I really need to start up my own channel, because while you and Master Samwise have pointed out plenty of inconsistencies and stupidity in this show, there is still sooo much more to point out! My favorite is how in the penultimate episode Mando gets separated by blast doors, the Mandos do NOTHING while watching, start to SHOOT at the blast doors, while using the darthsabre to escape in the other direction, instead of cutting through the FRONT blast door. Then, Gideon orders his minions them to raise the blast door, the thing protecting them from the barrage of fire that is completely invalidated by said blast doors. The 15+ Mandos keep escaping instead of helping Minigunguy, he cuts himself off for NO REASIN, while keeping up the pounding of DOZENS of Beskartroopers. He won, imagine what he could have achieved if Bo stayed with him, yet alone all 15 Mandos in that room ("Mandalorians stay together" no, apparently they don't).
Or how they emptied their whole star cruiser for no apparent reason. EVERYONE besides ONE GUY left that ship, WHY!? And him needing to kamikaze it into the facility where the main characters already are, potentially killing them...
They have honestly stopped trying so hard, it is just a comedic show now and they are trying to tell us that by just dialing the ridiculousness and stupidity up to 11. This is underlined by the last shot where they did - i kid you not - a FRIGGIN LONEY TOONES "That's all, folks!" outro. It is just incredible. Talk about suspension of disbelief, i couldn't believe 1/10th of this BS if i had all the drugs of the world in my bloodstream. Just wow.
As count dooku said
I've been looking forward to this
For me the biggest problem with this season is that it felt like it was all just setup to get mando back into bounty hunting because writting simple bounty hunting stories is easier and worked better.
I would have liked to see Mando slip back to being a ruthless bounty hunter after he returned Grogu in S2. They could have explored how without Grogu he falls back to the only thing he knew.
I always enjoy your titles that leave me thinking for hours
Goddamn it Sheev. Just let people enjoy things. Its a show intended for children. You people will find ways to complain about everything.
On all seriousness very happy you got the video up after the troubles. Had a great day today because of you and Jolly.
"OH! BUT IT'S OKAY. BECAUSE IN 1977, A STORMTROOPER HIT HIS HEAD ON A DOOR"
tldr Sheev prevents children from enjoying Star Wars.... I guess..?
we talking about the same show that had a guy get cut in half by a door in the first scene of the first episode in the first season?
For children?
@@daniaaal this show keeps acting like it
I will say about the Beskar, it is mentioned in other lore that due to beskar becoming rare even on mandalore, they began using beskar alloys which were obviously weaker. Din's armor is pure beskar while the armor of the other mandalorians and even more so the storm troopers is not.
See this is why I've been sticking with legends.
Check out DarthAngelus. He made an animated adaptation of the first half of Heir to the Empire. Despite budget limitations he did a fantastic job. Clocking in at almost 3 hours now.
@@jimberjamber8540 oh that’s so sick I’ll look into it for sure
@@jimberjamber8540 Been keeping up with him as well.
Also, I highly recommend the audio comic dubs of the Republic comics by Auditect.
Legends is fucked up too (see the Revan book/SWTOR)
@@sirpepeofhousekek6741 I read Revan and thought it was alright. Definitely didn’t ruin Legends for me lol. I loved way more in legends compared to what I love in canon. But everyone has different ideas of Star Wars.
Regarding never taking off their helmets, it’d make more sense if they can’t take their helmets off around *outsiders* but they could around each other. Then people in The Watch could eat together, etc. More like real-life cloisters and monasteries.
The most important thing about how Bo accepts the Dark Saber is that nobody but herself, Din and Grogu were a witness to that event, so the other Mandos don't even have credible proof that what Din says happened happened! At the best, it's a technicality, but at the very worst, you could just spin whatever tale you want to hand off the Dark Saber since apparently no one will question the credibility of your story even if there's literally no proof!
When mando is exiting his cockpit in ep 2 baby yoda was in there meaning when he opened the hatch he could of gassed his own child 😭
I didn't notice that about the Darksaber rules. Thank you for clarifying this. Also, Bo earning it because Din lost it to a robot, who lost it to Bo is logic a saw on an instagram meme before episode 3 aired. No joke
THANK YOU for mentioning the "direct democracy" thing; it's been bugging me since I watched the episode. A bunch of great points throughout -- the few videos I've seen on Mandalorian have been base-level "show bad" accusations more than actual criticisms and didn't really say *why* "show bad," but this one gave me a lot I wholeheartedly agree with.
Din took his helmet off every day to shave his beard & shape his moustache
I love watching your videos. They force me to think more critically of anything I watch and to pay more attention to story contrivances, plot holes and everything about it as a whole
Remember when IG-11 sacrificed himself for Mando and the child, exploding and obliterating himself?
And it was good character development for Mando, removing some of his distrust for droids stemming from him seeing droids murder everyone when he was a child?
Yeah I remember. But apparently disney don't.
Pepperidge farms remembers.
I’m glad you questioned how did he know the pirates were working for the empire because when I was watching it that’s the first thing that came to my mind, I thought I missed something
When I was in elementary school, I made a custom Mandalorian costume for Halloween, and other kids only ever recognized me as Boba or Jango Fett. Now that I'm an adult I attended a convention in a new OC Mandalorian costume and everyone kept telling me "this is the way"
Honestly I think I'm starting to prefer when no one else knew what a Mandalorian was over everyone recognizing this bastardized version as "mandalorians"
Oh man. Absolutely. I’m a OC Mando cosplayer myself and I cannot tell you how sick I am of either being called “Boba Fett” or being told “this is the way”. Anytime somebody says this to me now, I just give a thumbs up like “yeah, cool.”
Although, at the last con I attended, someone did call me Axe Woves which was very refreshing, despite the fact my kit looks absolutely nothing like his 😂
Almost makes you feel like an actual Mandalorian. Like "Oh great, you know the Death Watch Youth Organization's cult motto! Good job, now how do you wish to die: Blaster, Blade, or OBLITERATION?
Din's character is action dad. That's basically it.
These are the most creative review titles I’ve ever seen ngl
Just give us more Andor. :( It was so good, they slammed it.
Mind, I'm incredibly biased. I liked Rogue One a lot, too.
Tony Gilroy (Andor), with Susanna White and Benjamin Caron should have done Mando S3... as well as anything Fett, and everything else Stars Wars. End of story
That’d be sick af
Remember they were saying the same thing about Filoni and Favreau being the ones who saved Star Wars? And now that applies to Gilroy?
At the end of the day KK runs the show and/or (haha) these guys get power drunk and end up f*cking up everything
You missed Toby Haynes (thought he was the best director). But in all seriousness no one would touch such a show or concept with these characters because there isn’t enough meat on the bone. And even if there was and they did it differently, they would forgo trying to include stupid cameos thereby not making it as popular with the masses.
We just need good writers in general doing things.
Yeah, think Dune or Foundation... progressive content. It amazes me how certain show content (writing, directing) gets green lit for viewing, happens with a lot of shows with good brands, look what happened with the LOTR series...
Good vid! Will mention that I believe they said in the show that the troops wore beskar alloy. So it is explained how pure beskar could block lightsabers while the troops armor was weaker.
14:50 nailed it, I was so hoping that would be the direction they'd take, especially when they seemingly set that up when he first meets Bo in season 2. I even thought the idea of Bo Katan or the Mandalorian creating a new Mandalorian culture was being foreshadowed in episode 1 with the kid who's ceremony gets interrupted, he doesn't speak the whole creed, specifically the part that the Mandalorian disobeyed, which would've been a great bit of foreshadowing if the season ended with a similar scenario but for the new culture.
Had the writers focused on the differing Mandalorian cultures by having them meet earlier on, really flesh out their beliefs and show why each side sees value in them could've easily been compelling, especially if the Mandalorian maybe saw the flaws in his own beliefs and there was the threat of a civil war breaking out any second.
On top of the terrible execution where the pacing dragged only to then rush to the finish line at the last two episodes, the whole premise of reclaiming Mandalore even prior to the season's release didn't interest me, and the show gave me no reason to care about Mando's redemption, his cult, Bo Katan's people, or Mandalore as a planet, none of it interested me before this season and I cared even less after it. Not to mention after waiting three seasons for Moff Gideon to get some degree of actual characterization beyond Giancarlo Esposito's performance, or to get some clue into his grand plan as to why he wanted Grogu it came down to 'I'll just spill my guts about the generic plan I had okay I'm dead now maybe bye!'
Only thing I'll give this season is that pirate king was a neat design, that and Skinny Pete showing up were the only things that got any degree of a reaction out of me.
Earning redemption bathing in the Waters of Mandalor is only a quest after Mandalor is "destroyed". Before the Empire wrecked Mandalor bathing in the Waters of Mandalor was something like catching a bus to your local swimming pool.
36:24 thank you!!!! I'm so glad I wasn't the only one who noticed how stupid that was That they're wearing beskar armor But yet still get shot die.
While this wasn't the case 9n every scene, the plates of beskar defended against shots, but the fabric between didn't. I agree that they went down too quickly at times, but wanted to point out the weakness they themselves tried to go for. That and kinetic kills of flying into rocks.
Yup. After watching Andor, I was reminded what could have been and I've been critical about everything else ever since. So much so that I'm practically allergic to Disney Star Wars now.
I completely agree with what you said, especially the cult being clearly shown to be a bad influence for Din but are now regarded as the good guys. The only thing I can add is that the third season managed to achieve one other disastrous thing, that is to look like shit compared to the prior seasons (s1 especially)
The video titles are so dramatic! I love it! Really feels like it though. And after that it burned down your car.
IT HAS ARRIVED
I really enjoyed your video man, i still don’t understand why they not only throw away opportunities to develop characters and add world building, but they literally retcon their own shit. I wish they would get writers and show runners who actually know how to do their jobs properly.
My favorite ep in the entire series is the one where he sneaks into the imp base with Bill Burr. It was cool seeing Drin so vulnerable for once, being able to actually see Pascal’s face immediately makes the show so much more interesting. There’s so much emotion and depth lost when they constantly come up with reasons to hide his face, why? S3 biggest fault is basically resetting everything that happened in the previous 2 seasons and somehow making Drin boring.
I wish they would’ve allowed Drin to have his own season to hisself instead. Putting him in more uncomfortable situations and explore his identity more! Alas what we got was a halfassed attempt to filler space between more exciting projects lol, which is where all the talent and money went btw
30:53 was so jarring, it came for both of my lungs, this video is a perfect mixture of comedy and well thought criticism, love it
Another Sheev speaks banger where Sheev does in fact speak🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Love his content
@@chasehedges6775 Haven't even watched the entire video yet and so far it's been better than the entirety of Mando Season 3 😂
@@Star-Rule Exactly
Speaking of Bo Katan, one of the more interesting things you can do if you return to the classic Star Wars Era post-Prequels and post-TCW is that you can sensibly reflect on the Clone Wars from the POV of the fight against the Empire. The OC couldn‘t have done this since nobody knew what the Clone Wars actually were, and this pretty much goes for Legends as well.
But now with a whole, well-established and well-remembered canon regarding the Republic, Clone Wars and Order 66. And now you have characters that actually fought for the Republic and the CIS and the Rebellion can feasibly bring some of these people together. And of course the Rebellion itself inevitably brings new people to the fight that weren‘t in the Clone Wars at all and don‘t care about it. With these three groups alone you could do so much. Maybe there are even people who consciously rejected taking sides at the time and aren now vindicated.
I cannot stress enough how interesting it would have been for a Star Wars story to really get into this. It‘s something we could have learned something from. 90% of wars in the real world are exactly like the Clone Wars, where it arguably would have been better not to take sides at all, and most people never get to reflect on that. George Lucas was actually kind of brilliant to create a conflict like that.
Imagine if the sequels were about Maul creating a Mandalorian/ criminal undergound army as big as the Empire fighting the new republic....wait that was George's original sequel idea.
The most emotion that I got out of this season is when Paz Vizla died (Who I called Grudge and didn't even think had a name until he died) solely because of how much i liked him ironically
Bruh I didn’t even think of the fact that they only followed her cause of the saber.
It makes a lot more sense when you remember that Disney bought Star Wars to sell toys, not to tell coherent stories that don't retcon things or make sense
Literally made me sick to hear "This is the way."
“This is the way” rant has me in tears!!!! Lmao!!!!
i understand your argument, but the thing is, baby yoga in a suit saying no in a robot voice is the cutest thing i’ve ever seen in my life
Oh I'm so glad that someone finally acknowledged the fact that the Children of the Watch are the bad guys. Asides from the major problem that the no helmet removal rules are inconsistent, make no sense and contradict previously established lore, it's also just completely impractical to have a rule where you can never show your face around anyone. You see this clearly in season 3, during that stupid campfire scene, where they all have to go off alone, in the dark, to eat separately. That is the least of the basic everyday problems that would occur from trying to live like this. If they had made it so they could only show their faces around other Watch members, that could have made it a bit more believable, but the way they did it just doesn't work. Hell, the very existence of these cultists contradicts what was shown in Clone Wars and Rebels, which probably explains why we get almost no backstory or worldbuilding around them whatsoever.
If I'd been tasked with writing Season 3, I'd have made the Blacksmith the villain, who made up the entire thing. That would go a long way to explaining why the rules make no sense, and why this was never a thing in the previous shows. I'd have made it so she was a former Maul supporter (since she's got the horns and everything) who, after the siege of Mandalore, escaped custody with Paz Vizla and a few other warriors. They went and formed this new cult and made up The Way, as a means to indoctrinate the orphans they kidnapped into becoming a new loyal army. Her ultimate goal would have been to supplant Bo Katan with her new army, as she sees her as a traitor for refusing to submit to Maul after he defeated Pre Vizla and unworthy to rule Mandalore. This would have enabled the writers to involve Bo Katan in a more meaningful way, whilst also giving loads of room to actually turn Din into a real character. You could have had Din go to Bo Katan for help with getting to the mines of Mandalore, after being kicked out, only for her to reveal that myth of the living waters was never real and he'd been lied to his entire life. He'd refuse to believe it, at first, but then slowly come to realize that nothing about his creed adds up with how all the other Mandalorians act and the history they've told him about. He'd then go to confront the Blacksmith and question her in front of all the others. She'd call him a heretic and order her warriors to kill him, forcing him to retreat and barely escape with his life. He'd then go back to Bo Katan and have his big moment, where he takes off his helmet in front of her and pledges to help her unite the remaining true Mandalorians against the Watch. They'd then have a big fight against the fake Mandos, leading to the real Mandos accepting Din as one of their own for helping to save their planet.
Jolly's laugh is hilarious LMAOO
Glad you included the true season 3 ep 1
star wars is so focused on creating a marvel like universe that they forget to make good stand alone shows. why would they ruin a good thing by transferring the plot to another mediocre series and make a lukewarm third season for the madnalorian?
i think the main problem is because pedro couldn’t be on set they were limited in their options for din character development. disappointing but i don’t think they had another choice but to have him step aside for basically the whole season.
I dont think it was much to do with Pedro Pascal being there or not they film plenty of times without him. They can still give Din development. It only matters if he's taking the helmet off and they made it clear he is still too dedicated to the creed for that.
Am I the only one who wanted to see a mandalorian debate on whether to join the new republic or to restart their mandalorian empire? Could’ve been interesting modernism vs tradition
Episode 6 was a real kick in the bollocks because it had *SO* Much potential. A hedonistic hyper rich society that's walled itself off from the rest of the universe to live a hyper libertarian dream, where (supposedly) unthinking automatons carry out the whims of the decadent are now faltering and generations of laziness means no one is physically able of understanding what to do. It's a brilliant sci-fi concept that could've been fleshed out so much; perhaps a Droids Rights group is sabotaging them, maybe old CIS protocols were accidentally activated and they've gone kill crazy, or hell maybe the droids are simply serving the whims of the upper classes and thousands of once employed lower class works now rot in an undercity attempting to seize control with the help of the Mandalorian mercs.
There is so much that could be done, but instead we get boring cartoon hijinks with stiff cardboard characters and FUCKING Lizzo of all people, it was yet another cool idea that was shit on because Disney still thinks star wars is a film series for 12 year olds. Can't wait to not watch Season 4 and Ahsoka which will continue to fuck up badly.
The two redeeming parts of this season were the battle of Nevarro and the first half of the first battle with the jet troopers, and that only because we got to see the Mandalorians actually acting and fighting like soldiers in easy-to-follow scenes that allowed the audience to understand the flow of the battle. Aaaaaaand then there was the perfect Marvel movie climax in that jetpack-on-jetpack melee that threw all my good will into the trash compactor.
this season is really good when it isn’t forcibly speedrunning Rangers of the New Republic so hard that it’s first two episodes had to get pushed into another show that came out over a year before itself. 6/10; you can _hear_ Faverau’s annoyance with the plot elements he had to work with if you listen close enough.
I’m definitely interested in Season 4 though, since if nothing else the finale of what I’m gonna call the “Imperial Remnant Arc” set up a return to form that isn’t as likely to be meddled with by the studio, directly or otherwise, because BOBF and Mando S3 both clearly suffered from the story they were trying to tell being impacted by the Gina Carino Incident™️ and at least the latter is freer from having to deal with that happening in the future. Especially glad that Grogu is actually going to have a place in the show again, too, since it’s PAINFULLY obvious that nobody on the writing team intended for him to be here.
Similar issues with TROS happening here overall, although on a smaller scale - studio demands and previous content (or lack thereof) creating unrealistic standards setting up a new entry for partial failure at best. Recovery is definitely possible, but we’ll have to wait and see.
The ending nailed it with “Probably not”
The way I’d describe the season finale this season would be: for all the action and fighting, it felt underwhelming
I really appreciate your rant about the Way, especially since I hadn't really thought about it before.