Fillet Brazed GT Rebuild - 1991 GT Cyclone

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  • @techjunkie68smusicandtech56
    @techjunkie68smusicandtech56 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Love seeing the old GT's being given a new life, those bikes were something special.
    I have owned several early '90's GT's starting with the Timberline in dark green as I was on a very tight budget but it was a worthy bike for my commute to work until it got stolen. Then I got the red GT Pantera Al, another Timberline to replace my stolen Pantera AL and then The GT Zaskar LE (with Pace RC 35's ) . some years later in 2001 -2002 I bough a GT iDrive 6.0 (red) and later a GT iDrive 4.0, which along with my Pantera Al and Zaskar LE were my favourite GT bikes. I am looking to buy another GT again soon to build up as a MTB/BMX hybrid.

  • @MonkeyShred
    @MonkeyShred ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wonderful! Like the originality to it, especially seeing the XT cassette going back on. I have the aluminium version of the holy trinity, the Zaskar. As pretty as she looks, I’m always worried about the old lightweight aluminium frame so she won’t get to see the trails like the Cyclone did here! Steel is real 🤙

    • @sveablu
      @sveablu ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love seeing one of my favortite bike restorers chatting with another of my favorite bike restorers. And of course I agree, steel is real!!

  • @Cmnore
    @Cmnore 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lovely GT. I have two in my bike-barn as well:a '97 Ricochet and a '98 Zaskar LE. They are a testament to the pioneers in MTB engineering and build quality. Of all my bikes, those 2 will not leave my collection. Thx for sharing!

  • @73megalith
    @73megalith ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Missmatched tyres get the comments going like the upside down headset cups did, cleaver guy! Always enjoy these resto builds and love GTs 🤙

    • @oldshovel
      @oldshovel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol 😂 they match and they’re mismatched at the same time. I love Panaracer Fire xc pros

    • @interceptor7905
      @interceptor7905 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cleaver lol

  • @madrabbit64
    @madrabbit64 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’ve got a mid 90’s Klein Adroit similarly spek’d that I’m currently restoring, full XTR, JUDY forks, Selle Italia Flite saddle. Absolutely stunning paint job and the frame is dent free. Same issue with narrow bars but they’re authentic. It’s a blast to ride and I added some red Ritchey SPD pedals. Nice rare GT…..thank you for restoring it and not single speeding it like a lot of guys do on here.

  • @bgivco
    @bgivco ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's sweet, I've got a GT Ricochet chromo mtb, bought it new 30 yrs ago, still ride it. Keep up the good work!!

  • @SurpriseMeJT
    @SurpriseMeJT ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always wanted a GT Psyclone. It is a dream bike for me. It's hard to even find a Karakoram these days. I had a '95 Tequesta which was pretty good too before the chain derailled in between the spokes and cassette pulling the derailleur hanger all the way up.

  • @sveablu
    @sveablu ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another nice restoration, as usual. I think the bike turned out nice. It is always fun to go back and work on a bike like that and let it evolve into a creative process. Last year I adopted 3 vintage bikes. I did a lot of work on all of them. And I'm still changing little things here and there. Vintage bikes are all I really wish to own and ride at this point.

  • @boxingkangaroo9839
    @boxingkangaroo9839 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Absolutely love an old school retro MTB. Thanks for sharing the restoration.

  • @pipermoonshine
    @pipermoonshine 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got an Schwinn Aluminum Comp last year and I just finished a complete rebuild on the bike to make it more user friendly to me. It was a lot of work from this beginner bike mechanic but it was so worth it and I would do it again. so the moral of this story is that when you find a bike that you love it then becomes a labor of love and all you want to do is continue to make it a better bike again and again.

  • @PAExploration
    @PAExploration ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Such a great looking bike; back when bikes had a soul and charm they don’t really have anymore.

  • @johnsheetz6639
    @johnsheetz6639 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    that back brake cable setup is crazy! Never saw that before.

  • @wilsarno
    @wilsarno ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The internal cabling brought a smile to my face. Great build.

  • @Andre_7791
    @Andre_7791 ปีที่แล้ว

    an old GT, I was 15 at that time... Great!!! Thanks for the vid.

  • @mountainsmoore3657
    @mountainsmoore3657 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That is a sweet bike! The restoration was enjoyable. Love watching these videos,. Love, love, LOVE those older bikes. And those ride by shots with the Insta 360 at ground level were really cool!
    Thanks for sharing!

  • @91rattoyota
    @91rattoyota ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful restoration! I miss my old GT Aggressor from my high school days. Keep it as original as you can, these bikes are getting harder and harder to find. My current bike is a restored 1998 Specialized Hardrock FS and it rides like a dream. Keep up the good work sir! Love your videos!!!!

  • @user-pc8yn1dk9q
    @user-pc8yn1dk9q 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    GT cyclone and xizang are dream bikes for me.

    • @oldshovel
      @oldshovel  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dido 😁

  • @gamernaut8864
    @gamernaut8864 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sweet GT! I still have my teal 1989 GT Timberline with Biopace and the rear brake strangely mounted underneath the chain stays. A bike of its time for sure. I like your Cyclone. Great video.

  • @williampaterson1706
    @williampaterson1706 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great to see old bikes brought back to life 🎉

  • @juancervantes9950
    @juancervantes9950 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a GT timberline and I love it, hello from Mexico Mr. oldshovel

  • @StephenMarceau
    @StephenMarceau ปีที่แล้ว

    Sweet......Love the Tiquilla sunrise coloration. Great vibe...........

  • @andreapatto79
    @andreapatto79 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful restoration!

  • @tonymartin7010
    @tonymartin7010 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love watching your videos, Old Shuv! Keep ‘em coming! You are helping us gain knowledge, helping the newer generations gain an appreciation of these awesome old bikes, and all in a meditative space…well done.

  • @slideman.
    @slideman. ปีที่แล้ว

    what a beautiful gem you have found. Excelent video! Thanks.

  • @johndef5075
    @johndef5075 ปีที่แล้ว

    My 91 Daktari White GT Avalanche was the coolest looking bike I've ever had. They had some amazing paint jobs back in the day.

  • @andrew8213
    @andrew8213 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    12:00 love to see the Park Tool DAG in action!

  • @marvindaugherty5989
    @marvindaugherty5989 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice call on the front brake swap. I used to love those Fire XC tires.

    • @solarheat9016
      @solarheat9016 ปีที่แล้ว

      No. That was a total bone-headed move. Now whoever rides that bike won't be able to stop. All cantilever brakes are garbage, especially ones with that Shimano straddle cable thing. Would you ride that bike with tires that were made in 1991? No. We should not ride bikes with cantilever brakes either.

    • @marvindaugherty5989
      @marvindaugherty5989 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@solarheat9016 thanks for your expert advice....lol. Cantilever brakes only worked for twenty years before they became garbage(replaced by newer tech)? Fire XC are still in production today. Threadless stems came out in 1990. And that is a 91 Judy fork.

  • @easyrider75
    @easyrider75 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome build and lovely bike. Love the period feel.

  • @jenmac287
    @jenmac287 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the build. Great steel frame I have a similar time frame old steel Trek 950 mtb that I love....

  • @chrisarnold462
    @chrisarnold462 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Kore stem, Azonic risers and Oury Grips are quintessentially 90s GT.

  • @madtownangler
    @madtownangler 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    First bike I built was a GT and I tried to put the bottom bracket in backwards. Luckily they got it out and installed it for me. I built a headset tool out of some thread rod and boards and the rest was pretty easy except cutting the cables and hoses. Ended up buying a cutter for that stuff.
    I think it's been at least 25 years since I did a complete bike build now.

  • @brians8607
    @brians8607 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rob, another great video. The background music you and Toasty Rides use for your videos is spot on for vintage bike builds. You don't need fast pace head bashing music to go with precision cleaning and assembly. The custom GT's you mention are awesome bikes if you are lucky enough to find one in steel or titanium. Your decision to keep period (vintage) componets is a good one along with improving the fad parts of the period, the ridiculously narrow handle bars, and long, low angle stem. You stated you would be on the search for higher quality parts of the period to swap with the originals. I understand that statement. Your audience should also understand your TH-cam channel is a business. The time and effort to make the videos isn't free. Endorsement of sponsors in order to recoup cost and/or make some income is part of the process. As a volunteer at two of the Bicycle Collective locations I enjoy your channel. It provides entertainment and education. It gives me ideas for my own builds or the ones I do for the Collective.

  • @AngelJul
    @AngelJul ปีที่แล้ว

    Wooow.... that's a GEM! super cool restoration man... cheers from Brazil

  • @cesarali8001
    @cesarali8001 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome bike and work. Greetings from Argentina

  • @martinwakawaka5265
    @martinwakawaka5265 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice , you found a gem, awesome work.

  • @ColbyRidesBikes
    @ColbyRidesBikes ปีที่แล้ว

    As an Iowa State alumnus I'm a big fan of a "Cyclone" with a red and yellow (cardinal and gold) colorway. This bike looks great!

  • @Mikemalone7873
    @Mikemalone7873 ปีที่แล้ว

    Reminds me of my 93 Bravado that I rode for twenty years. Looks great that cyclone!

  • @hansbryan2915
    @hansbryan2915 ปีที่แล้ว

    I resto modded my grandpas 92 team avalanche and i always wish I kept it original. Not too bummed though because I tacod the back wheel and the 7speed xt group was getting a little tired. I’m glad bikes like these exist

  • @isaachazim3589
    @isaachazim3589 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful, I wouldn't change anything. Great work ! 👌✌️🖖

  • @indianadave8881
    @indianadave8881 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    And these young whipper snappers think internal cable routing is a new thing...
    And dropper posts? Yep. We had them back then too! Just took a little more to drop them.
    Love your videos.
    I'm working on a smoked salmon pink Tequesta currently, and am debating on going 1X in the front. For the trails it would ride on, and around town, the big and small chain rings don't get used much anyway.

  • @Jinedan
    @Jinedan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A sharpie? Dollar store nail polish next time! Love your videos...

    • @oldshovel
      @oldshovel  ปีที่แล้ว

      It was a sharpie paint pen. It actually worked really well but it was a trial. I’ve used mail polish and it does work well also.

  • @MS-pw8yu
    @MS-pw8yu ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to stumble upon an awesome frame like that! I proudly ride a fully restored, polished, tuned Pro Flex 656 my stepfather sent me. It was a bike I wanted in the 90s and now I have it. A GT from that era is on my short list to own and now that I know about the filet brazed Cyclone...whelp, now I have to start searching. BTW, I own a hand built, full-custom, filet brazed Curtis XR650 with the clear coat. She gets looks and compliments everywhere we go.
    Nice work!

  • @gtzaskar6353
    @gtzaskar6353 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a 1991 GT Zaskar that I built back in 1991 with XT components. I believed some Pro's back then preferred the steel frame GT's.

  • @allcapitols1554
    @allcapitols1554 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had one of these - Super rare

  • @Hotpack7279
    @Hotpack7279 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love Pure old Bikes but: I bought myself today a Rockshox 30 Silver TK for my loved "92 Marin Eldridge Grade and now i convert it from Threaded to Discmount Ahead Fork . Now i have to put my Wheels to a Shop for new Discbrake-Hubs, because i like to keep my Mavic M231 Rims.

  • @cyclerevive
    @cyclerevive ปีที่แล้ว

    Lovely looking GT “steel is real”

  • @theretrobikeshed3392
    @theretrobikeshed3392 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is awsome buddy 👍👌🚴‍♂️

  • @thinkpadBentnoseTheBlind
    @thinkpadBentnoseTheBlind ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow ! I have only ever seen one of those before. a fella special ordered it. It was red also but was a 95-96 maybe.

  • @samblenkharn8099
    @samblenkharn8099 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a beauty 😍.

  • @chrisnelson6991
    @chrisnelson6991 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That Shimano Deore parts kit is XTR before it was called that.(crank and hubs anyway) Upper U brake scott SE. One of my first bikes was a Fisher CR-7 with that same groupo. Nice bike man.

  • @morphius7777
    @morphius7777 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, I would love to find one of these frames. Just now wrapping up a '97 Klein Pulse Pro.

  • @paulmaurice4491
    @paulmaurice4491 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the build! It’s the frame I always wanted but couldn’t afford! A very enjoyable video. If I’m not mistaken this is the third gt you’ve done. I love them all and wonder which was your favorite!? Keep on doing what you do!

  • @johanrr4
    @johanrr4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That looks amazing! I'd love to have a retro mtb too, most of them here in Sweden are either super expensive and nice or rusty and broken so it's hard to find something.

  • @CSIPSD
    @CSIPSD ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this build. My next build after I finish this proflex for my 9 year old will be a GT I think.

  • @cyrilvillarosa2421
    @cyrilvillarosa2421 ปีที่แล้ว

    IMHO, I prefer taking my 3x9 Giant NRS3 set up over my Giant XTC 1x10 set-up.
    Awesome video for a classic frame. Looking forward to the next evolution of this bike.
    I’d say my soft spot for MTB’s from 90’s to 2005. I just love how they were made.

  • @wismuthennecke1808
    @wismuthennecke1808 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like steel bikes and this is a nice one 😊👍

  • @diveaddict6885
    @diveaddict6885 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Azonic bars fresh

  • @johnthemainguy9059
    @johnthemainguy9059 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gorgeous bike, and yes, there's nothing like the ride of a hand-built steel bike. Put some period correct tires on it, a Flite saddle and get rid of those ridiculous handlebars!

  • @robwaters8589
    @robwaters8589 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the older bike builds! are you going to be doing any more re-paints during your builds?

  • @tecdesigns8183
    @tecdesigns8183 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love gt's of this era, I have two a palomar very original and my fav karakoram similar spec to this Korea stem etc but rigid will be a keeper when done.
    The patina is great but I'd be tempted to strip it raw and clearcoat it to show off the workmanship. Also Mag21 rockshox.

  • @pennyuyitung4854
    @pennyuyitung4854 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great restomod - still keeping the ride quality of the original build.

  • @BICIeCOMPUTERconGabriele
    @BICIeCOMPUTERconGabriele ปีที่แล้ว

    I appreciate that you kept the original components of choose components of the bike's period.

  • @russellml1086
    @russellml1086 ปีที่แล้ว

    26er 🤙🏼

  • @mattharding7649
    @mattharding7649 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Red nail polish could work on those chips too.

  • @murrayfuller-sb8wx
    @murrayfuller-sb8wx 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I use to have a gt code red Coca-Cola bike with the aluminum frame

  • @lukeoverthehill
    @lukeoverthehill 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gah I love the old GT frames the most

  • @gbh362
    @gbh362 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was wondering, since you didn't lately, did you stop painting bikes? It was one of my favourite part of your videos since you were so creative!

  • @rossbodenmann
    @rossbodenmann ปีที่แล้ว

    Fire xc pros ❤

  • @metzpribadi1344
    @metzpribadi1344 ปีที่แล้ว

    Want to have that bike

  • @anthonyharris483
    @anthonyharris483 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like those old GT bikes but hated the cable routing under the bottom bracket where the cables can get contaminated

  • @rexdouglas4874
    @rexdouglas4874 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have had at least 5 GT’s. I think they are some of the finest riding bikes that I have ridden over the years, riding in the Sierra’s.
    What’s your opinion on the GT bike?

  • @StephenMarceau
    @StephenMarceau 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what chemicals and lubricants do you use. Do you overhaul bearings? How do you adjust bearings?

  • @mishimoto13
    @mishimoto13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not put red wall tyre on rear also. Can't understand why not to.they look so good

  • @halseyknox
    @halseyknox 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm glad you decided not to retro mod it. Some bikes need to stay true to there roots. Shorter stem and riser bars I understand, I do the same on my builds and it does make a difference. Nice bike for sure....do you prefer 18" size bike that you ride?

  • @manysaints
    @manysaints 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It went together easily in less than an hour. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Make sure the front fork is forward or the pedals will hit the front tire. Tires are both a little soft so it needs air before I ride it. The rear wheel didn't come with a clamp regular bolts hold it on. The front had the clamp. No scratches out of box. Rims are a little off with a slight wobble. They could have spent more time with the spoke tool fixing the run out. So far out of the box I'm happy with it. I did replace the pedals with a nice aftermarket set. After riding it a bit my A$$ is a bit sore so I ordered another seat. Overall I'm nearly 60 and didn't ride a bike in 30 years. I like my new 29" Schwinn. It will be used for casual rides with my friend.

  • @SmallGadgetMan
    @SmallGadgetMan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really need a rear cassette for a 2001 Rockhopper I am working on, what is a cheap but good option? Im wanting to go 9 or 10 gears on the back, ultimately do a 1x10 in the end, but budget says stick to the 3x8 drivetrain.

  • @feldybikes
    @feldybikes ปีที่แล้ว

    Whoa a Cyclone so old it’s not a Psyclone! Where’d you find the brake hanger?

  • @ashleem1387
    @ashleem1387 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd love to show you a picture of the 1970 Schwinn Continental 10-speed I restore that was my dad's

  • @simonguard5087
    @simonguard5087 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How does it feel going from the modern bike you race on to a bike of this era?

  • @ToddNZMTB
    @ToddNZMTB ปีที่แล้ว

    Auld Shuv'nor 🧐

  • @scottblack1591
    @scottblack1591 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great build! Where in Utah is that beautiful trail you are riding? What’s it called? Thanks!

    • @oldshovel
      @oldshovel  ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s the Bonneville Shoreline trail just below Ben Lomond peak

  • @aa240sx
    @aa240sx ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great build as always - quick question though. how come you never rebuild the forks? or at least replace the fork oil and seals?

    • @oldshovel
      @oldshovel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I guess it’s time to show one. Sometimes on builds I don’t fully know the status or need for a fork until I have it on a bike ready to ride. On older forks I’m hesitant if it’s working well to open them up as older parts and seals are not always available. Some forks I have serviced without filming like the gen 1 SID I put on my Brodie (I actually rebuilt it quite a while back without even having a build for it in mind yet).

    • @oldshovel
      @oldshovel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As a note, on this bike, I did not do anything. It looked hardly used and rode like a new fork, I was pleasantly surprised on the ride, it was plush an smooth, perhaps the best 90’s Judy I’ve ever felt likely due to the White Bros internals.

  • @francissobotka8725
    @francissobotka8725 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What u brakes are those?

  • @zu_1455
    @zu_1455 ปีที่แล้ว

    Old Shuv

  • @boumex8842
    @boumex8842 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are you doing with them bikes when you are done with them?

  • @madtownangler
    @madtownangler 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think now except one Gary Fisher bike all my bikes except my GT Karakoram have all disc brakes

  • @chesterossa
    @chesterossa ปีที่แล้ว

    Comment algorithm compliance

  • @kitbiggz6135
    @kitbiggz6135 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why the mis matched tires? Running low on tires? I am lol

    • @oldshovel
      @oldshovel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wanted a retro set of tires on this one and was able to find these two, they are both Panaracer Fire xc pro’s just one in gray and the other red…

    • @CSIPSD
      @CSIPSD ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@oldshovel thoughts on the tires? Hard to find colored sidewall tires or colored tires at all anymore.

  • @rhymeswithbombs
    @rhymeswithbombs 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No Canadian nickels in the grips?!

  • @radcheskygum5353
    @radcheskygum5353 ปีที่แล้ว

    А что за кассета новая стоит ? Какая самая большая звезда ?

  • @daniellarson3068
    @daniellarson3068 ปีที่แล้ว

    A little work and cleaning and it's good for another 30 years. I'm not so sure about the longevity of those carbon fiber bikes.

  • @mariuszmac5801
    @mariuszmac5801 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Old bikes are great, but in most of them the position behind the wheel is a tragedy, it is terribly exhausting the back, it is best to completely replace the stem and handlebars with a broken one

  • @gonzaley999
    @gonzaley999 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's one youtube chanel i'm follow with like 20 or so follower he has a vintage GT a vintage Litespeed, Mercedes benz Amp. his chanel is similar its Name is (Bike and Blogs)

  • @michael61985
    @michael61985 ปีที่แล้ว

    That would drive me nutz wheels that don't match and them handlebar grips look uncomfortable as hell

  • @Ollie140
    @Ollie140 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why don't us invest in an ultrasonic cleaner. It will save you so much time.

  • @stevebarnett155
    @stevebarnett155 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I usually like your builds but what in the world did you put a red wall tire on the front and a Grey wall on the back? Makes it look thrown together.

    • @JuBlowme
      @JuBlowme ปีที่แล้ว

      You weren’t a fan of a decision made by an artist while creating his artwork? Good thing there are no rules when it comes to art, right Steve?

    • @CSIPSD
      @CSIPSD ปีที่แล้ว

      Love the Redwall tire, I actually paused the video and Google the tire so I can order one.

  • @maxipedia
    @maxipedia 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't get the tires on this build. They are way too new and also pretty ugly. Either period correct Panaracers or Tioga or Ritchey, even Michelin, or something modern =with more air volume. Wheels are also pretty basic, even if I appreciate the Bontrager BCX rims. A good wheelset with Parallax hubs and Mavic rims can't be too expensive. Otherwise, really nice. Cheers.

  • @BanjoLuke1
    @BanjoLuke1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well... I suppose there are people who like these older hardtails.
    Imagine of everyone wanted one....
    Imagine how hard it would be to find one for a reasonable price....
    So yeah.... I suppose this stuff is OK for Boomers, but I bet all the young folk want the latest carbon, hi-tech, hydraulic-disc whizzbang stuff.
    Seriously.... Stop putting out these videos. People are going to buy up all the older Kona, GT and Fischer frames!
    Do we want that? Do we?
    😂

  • @denisantivatnikov6velophot554
    @denisantivatnikov6velophot554 ปีที่แล้ว

    metal frame

  • @kevinsande1677
    @kevinsande1677 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolute shame to put a 98 fork, front v-brake and riser bars on a 91 gem like that. Period Correct build would be SO much more appropriate.