That is great Corsair improved Cristal edition Architecture case. This chase is very optional with possibility to set up stealth motherboard as well. And it is deep as well what allows to install thick side radiator. And I do like complete side mesh panel that looks fresh and stylish. Great product.
I was switching my PC's case to get one that had better cooling a few months back, I ended up going with the airflow version of this case. I've gotta say that I do love the case. One thing I do need to point out. My PCIe slots for where the GPU screws into were also slightly off, slightly further back than other cases on the market. This was honestly a good thing! One of my biggest concerns was that with there being no floor from a PSU shroud, I couldn't use my GPU support bracket (I have one of the ones that is just a screw pillar). The PCIe screws being further back are actually putting more force onto the GPU, so much that it isn't sagging like it would've in my previous case, the GPU is perfectly level which I feel like may be by design... Struggle to get it in, but once it is, it really holds well! The need to pay extra for the cable management straps did kind of bug me, but I solved this by just 3D printing my own and putting some velcro straps I already had in them.
I have to say, your case reviews are top tier, and they're my go-to now any time I want to learn about a case. I really appreciate your approach, and in depth analysis without being overly pedantic. Thank you for the awesome work.
The Montech King 95 makes this look dead on arrival for £70 less, or you can get the Pro version with full case fans and a fan+RGB controller for £51 less, and everything is white, removable rad mounts etc. Or like you said just spend the same money and get the O11 Evo with a richer featureset. I feel like it would need a price revision to be competitive.
I wish they would make a case that can accommodate a 420mm AIO in a push pull configuration with a thick radiator like Arctic Liquid Freezer iii mounted anywhere. The ideal case should have good airflow as well including the gpu.
True but we need functional cases. And most of the time, there is a limitation on either the size or the location of AIO placement. I want one that has it all.
@@ceuser3555case like that exist i think its phanteks nv9 model i remeber it is around 610mm height so u can easily do push pull with 420mm radiator and airflow is good aswell.
@@ceuser3555 import fee for a 6500x is 240€ (wich is like 220 USD and transport only) a big case like the 7000D and younare already in the 350 - 400 range
I feel if this was the first dual chamber case brought to market, we could see why there was no removable brackets, tie down points etc, but this just feels like they did not even have a single meeting, considering why O11D is so popular, how has it been improved and possibly make this better
Yes I’m shocked. I mean you can knock Corsair but this product is like a year before the o11d was released. The product manager needs a training course. 😮
nope. when I purchased the case I also purchased a generic GPU vertical mount kit, but they have a proprietary bracket for the back. Only way to get the Vertical GPU in this case is to purchase the (ADDITIONAL $80) corsair proprietary one. Even if you take a SawsAll to it, they were clever enough to make nothing mountable.
I fail to see the point of this case for anyone outside diehard Corsair fans, pun not intended. Most O11 inspired cases from other brands compete on price, while the 6500X shown here is $40 more expensive for no discernible reason. The amount of flex on the rear panel is unacceptable for a case of that price. Looks like I'll be sticking with Lian Li for my next build.
Mainly for the compatibility with Asus BTF and MSI project zero. I have the lian li RGB case but switching to this one for the Asus BTF for that extra clean look
question on cases like this? Can you flip the case so its not specifically in this direction. Have the clear corner on the left side vs its current right side
I'm just hoping for a bigger full size ATX version that supports a 420mm radiator. Aside from a few other nitpicks I love the case and the support for wood panels! Almost perfect! That is of course if this supports vertical GPU mounting. Also get rid of the white strip on the front glass panel on the right side. Would look much cleaner and less outdated like the New O11 Dynamic from Lian Li. Especially with this price.
I think it’s a good chassis. Would have been nice if they included silver screws and fixed a few of the issues James mentioned. Surely those would be spotted during the r and d
. Asus tuf b650 plus or msi mag b650 tomahawk.... which one is better or both are almost same ?? in my country both are same price. Can you please share your opinion regarding this..
ok so he did a build in this case and found a few issues, does it not cross the case makers/designers minds to have somebody do this to discover those issues and amend them before releasing the product to public market lol?
I got mine in early march. Gorgeous Project 0 build. However, I got the vertical GPU mount a week ago, now that its in stock, and the GPU temps are about 5-10° higher than they were when mounted horizontally. Still well under anything to be concerned about... I've got 3 140's on the bottom (blowing in), 3 120's on the side (blowing in), NZXT 360 elite on the top (blowing out, 'cause i paid attention in class when they taught us heat rises, no change in the CPU temps, btw) and nothing on the back. (Its hard to find a single Thermaltake SWAFAN EX 14 ARGB... Anyone wanna split a 3 pack with me? 🤣🤣 (Seriously, though...)
I don't want to come off as a Corsair hater but... I just feel like their stuff is ehh, if not just a tad overpriced for what they're offering. This case is great if you have a motherboard with reversed connectors. But if it's a regular motherboard, there's plenty of alternatives like the ones the video description name drops. $20 USD more gets a base model Y70 which includes a vertical raiser (not that you have a choice with that case), and $40 less gets you a NZXT H9. Half the price of the 6500X gets you either a base model King 95 or a NZXT H6. And all those are great dual chamber cases too.
Not sure if I'm being stupid but here's an issue I had during my build with this 6500x case and an MSI B650 Project Zero which is a back connecting motherboard I had an issue where the 3.5 inch bay on the back hits the CPU connectors and had no other choice but to omit the module itself so to create enough space for the cable Another one was since this motherboard is an m-ATX, the power supply hits the back connectors such as audio and usb2.0 and it literally makes the power supply not fit (eventually had to force the power supply in without the audio connector) i'm still looking for a way to fix these; if anyone has the same kind of issues but found a way to fix it, please let me know otherwise the case looks awesome very happy with how it looks; just those 2 problems bothering me
Good work, but please find out from the company what things are for before you do a review. I dont think your guess was accurate. Please add pinned comment when you do.
This feels like it should have been a product released 3 years ago, does not have the edge vs. the current market. Feels outdated and rushed in many areas. Not a lot of quality of life improvements. For $200, there's just no value in it.
I wanted to ask that questtion..As you said In the video sadly No 420mm Rad..But Could you make 140 Push and pull and try cheating the Radiatior on top?
looks like a great build but I’m surprised with all the black screws and parts. Really sloppy looking. Hard to believe montech have a better chassis for less in this category.
@@thetechdevil-jn1vo Yes, absolutely! I want my case to have as small a footprint as possible.. Sandwich layer between 2x360 mm would be perfect for an ITX with a custom loop. Presumably, people buy ATX because of the expansion slots.. But in most cases these go unused, leaving you with a bunch of waste and a giant box of air. I like building PCs and I hate wasted space..
@@KitGuruTechThere are so few dual chamber cases that support a 140 in the back, it's kind of a shame. I got a Corsair 680x and I like it a lot, except my current GPU barely fits in there, and all my fans are 140's. I've been looking for a new case for some time (not just for the GPU clearance, other reasons too), but I really want a dual chamber again so I've been passing on pretty much everything since it's all 120s in the back, unless the case is humungous. I thought about the Hyte Y70, but man is it expensive AF since it includes the display.
@@EfrainManyeah it’s not ideal. My issues with the hyte would be the build quality though. When James reviewed it here it was flexing really badly. I know it’s maybe not a big issue in the grand scheme of things but I was surprised at how badly some of it is put together
The amount of space that needs to be set aside for cooling nowadays on a gaming PC is just insane! Intel / AMD / Nvidia really need to start looking at producing cooler running hardware.
I like that this case is specifically designed for iCUE Link, that's my main reason. also, ultimately, no one has to have a valid reason or explain it, people are allowed to spend their money how they want
I'll take a standard mid-tower case like the 5000d Airflow any day over all these unoriginal copycat O11 Dynamic builds cluttering up the internet over the last few years. The IPS screen on the CPU cooler looks neat at first, but I'm betting it's going to be one of those gimmicky components that's going to look dated in a couple years.
Seems like everyone and their mom are building their own o11. Can't say I'm a fan of these dual chamber case trend. I prefer traditional looking cases.
Lian Li? Every time I see those 10..14 fan cases something dies inside me. Meanwhile fans are some of the most profitable parts by those companies. How come...
For what it is, i feel it's overpriced and things like the King 95 kinda make this look like a bad joke. The only thing i guess some people would like is the 4 usb on the front i/o, but how many people really want or even need that and maybe the different panels could be nice.
The lack of full 140mm support is the main reason i wouldnt buy this case. Such a shame. Especially since corsair is one of the only people that make a 420mm aio. Which i own! 😤
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Checking mod support for 140 was a very nice surprise. Thanks guys
Agree. Such a good move.
Those two black “screws” on the glass side panel bothers me endlessly 😢
It was a very silly oversight not to use silver ones.
That is great Corsair improved Cristal edition Architecture case. This chase is very optional with possibility to set up stealth motherboard as well. And it is deep as well what allows to install thick side radiator. And I do like complete side mesh panel that looks fresh and stylish. Great product.
Lovely build James. I like the look of it but it’s got a few issues I’m surprised ever got out the door. 😮
Black screws is a weird one to miss on such a nice design. Surely silver screws aren’t more ‘expensive’ to make.
I was switching my PC's case to get one that had better cooling a few months back, I ended up going with the airflow version of this case. I've gotta say that I do love the case.
One thing I do need to point out. My PCIe slots for where the GPU screws into were also slightly off, slightly further back than other cases on the market. This was honestly a good thing! One of my biggest concerns was that with there being no floor from a PSU shroud, I couldn't use my GPU support bracket (I have one of the ones that is just a screw pillar). The PCIe screws being further back are actually putting more force onto the GPU, so much that it isn't sagging like it would've in my previous case, the GPU is perfectly level which I feel like may be by design... Struggle to get it in, but once it is, it really holds well!
The need to pay extra for the cable management straps did kind of bug me, but I solved this by just 3D printing my own and putting some velcro straps I already had in them.
I have to say, your case reviews are top tier, and they're my go-to now any time I want to learn about a case. I really appreciate your approach, and in depth analysis without being overly pedantic. Thank you for the awesome work.
Yeah James is amazing. His case reviews are next level.
Thanks for the kind words 😊
I'm still constantly amazed, about your case reviews...
Just amazing, amazing work there!
Thanks for these and keep it up!
Glad you like them!
They are great
Would love to see a comparison between this and the airflow version?
The Montech King 95 makes this look dead on arrival for £70 less, or you can get the Pro version with full case fans and a fan+RGB controller for £51 less, and everything is white, removable rad mounts etc. Or like you said just spend the same money and get the O11 Evo with a richer featureset. I feel like it would need a price revision to be competitive.
such a coincidence I was looking for a new case today and this was released. directly ordered.
same ! :D
I wish they would make a case that can accommodate a 420mm AIO in a push pull configuration with a thick radiator like Arctic Liquid Freezer iii mounted anywhere. The ideal case should have good airflow as well including the gpu.
Yeah the downside might be that the case would be massive
True but we need functional cases. And most of the time, there is a limitation on either the size or the location of AIO placement. I want one that has it all.
@@ceuser3555case like that exist i think its phanteks nv9 model i remeber it is around 610mm height so u can easily do push pull with 420mm radiator and airflow is good aswell.
@@ceuser3555 import fee for a 6500x is 240€ (wich is like 220 USD and transport only) a big case like the 7000D and younare already in the 350 - 400 range
Why not use MSI project zero mobo, the case supports it. It's gonna be much cleaner...
I like this case, especially the support for no show cables and the wood accent panels.
I feel if this was the first dual chamber case brought to market, we could see why there was no removable brackets, tie down points etc, but this just feels like they did not even have a single meeting, considering why O11D is so popular, how has it been improved and possibly make this better
Yes I’m shocked. I mean you can knock Corsair but this product is like a year before the o11d was released. The product manager needs a training course. 😮
All CPU blocks should have an LCD display on it. Just makes it that extra it cool (although probably means more heat retention)
How could Corsair forget the graphics card holder ??? is there any way to build one inside ?
nope. when I purchased the case I also purchased a generic GPU vertical mount kit, but they have a proprietary bracket for the back. Only way to get the Vertical GPU in this case is to purchase the (ADDITIONAL $80) corsair proprietary one. Even if you take a SawsAll to it, they were clever enough to make nothing mountable.
I use a sq#2 as it grips better down into the screw rather than turning out.
Corsair's vertical mount is now available on their site.
I fail to see the point of this case for anyone outside diehard Corsair fans, pun not intended. Most O11 inspired cases from other brands compete on price, while the 6500X shown here is $40 more expensive for no discernible reason. The amount of flex on the rear panel is unacceptable for a case of that price. Looks like I'll be sticking with Lian Li for my next build.
Mainly for the compatibility with Asus BTF and MSI project zero. I have the lian li RGB case but switching to this one for the Asus BTF for that extra clean look
question on cases like this? Can you flip the case so its not specifically in this direction.
Have the clear corner on the left side vs its current right side
I personally like the king 95 pro a lot better. Love that case and bought mine in white. Can’t wait to build in it!
I'm just hoping for a bigger full size ATX version that supports a 420mm radiator. Aside from a few other nitpicks I love the case and the support for wood panels! Almost perfect!
That is of course if this supports vertical GPU mounting.
Also get rid of the white strip on the front glass panel on the right side. Would look much cleaner and less outdated like the New O11 Dynamic from Lian Li. Especially with this price.
I'm still running an Air 540 and this could be it's replacement, love a dual chamber case.
I think it’s a good chassis. Would have been nice if they included silver screws and fixed a few of the issues James mentioned. Surely those would be spotted during the r and d
It’s a good case. I agree there are some oversights but I’d still buy it. Silver screws wouldn’t be hard to get either
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Asus tuf b650 plus or msi mag b650 tomahawk.... which one is better or both are almost same ??
in my country both are same price.
Can you please share your opinion regarding this..
ok so he did a build in this case and found a few issues, does it not cross the case makers/designers minds to have somebody do this to discover those issues and amend them before releasing the product to public market lol?
Perhaps Corsair should employ James to do a few test builds in the case before releasing it.
Yes it might be a good idea by the looks of it. 😮
I got mine in early march. Gorgeous Project 0 build. However, I got the vertical GPU mount a week ago, now that its in stock, and the GPU temps are about 5-10° higher than they were when mounted horizontally. Still well under anything to be concerned about... I've got 3 140's on the bottom (blowing in), 3 120's on the side (blowing in), NZXT 360 elite on the top (blowing out, 'cause i paid attention in class when they taught us heat rises, no change in the CPU temps, btw) and nothing on the back. (Its hard to find a single Thermaltake SWAFAN EX 14 ARGB... Anyone wanna split a 3 pack with me? 🤣🤣 (Seriously, though...)
I don't want to come off as a Corsair hater but... I just feel like their stuff is ehh, if not just a tad overpriced for what they're offering.
This case is great if you have a motherboard with reversed connectors.
But if it's a regular motherboard, there's plenty of alternatives like the ones the video description name drops.
$20 USD more gets a base model Y70 which includes a vertical raiser (not that you have a choice with that case), and $40 less gets you a NZXT H9.
Half the price of the 6500X gets you either a base model King 95 or a NZXT H6. And all those are great dual chamber cases too.
Not sure if I'm being stupid but here's an issue I had during my build with this 6500x case and an MSI B650 Project Zero which is a back connecting motherboard
I had an issue where the 3.5 inch bay on the back hits the CPU connectors and had no other choice but to omit the module itself so to create enough space for the cable
Another one was since this motherboard is an m-ATX, the power supply hits the back connectors such as audio and usb2.0 and it literally makes the power supply not fit (eventually had to force the power supply in without the audio connector)
i'm still looking for a way to fix these; if anyone has the same kind of issues but found a way to fix it, please let me know
otherwise the case looks awesome very happy with how it looks; just those 2 problems bothering me
With all upper end mobos having 3.2 2x2 USB type a headers, why does Corsair put 3.2 gen 1 USB type a ports on it's case?
Good work, but please find out from the company what things are for before you do a review. I dont think your guess was accurate. Please add pinned comment when you do.
This feels like it should have been a product released 3 years ago, does not have the edge vs. the current market. Feels outdated and rushed in many areas.
Not a lot of quality of life improvements. For $200, there's just no value in it.
Good review guys. I like it. James which case would you buy. ? I assume the o11d ?
O11D or the Montech King 95/King 95 Pro
I wanted to ask that questtion..As you said In the video sadly No 420mm Rad..But Could you make 140 Push and pull and try cheating the Radiatior on top?
Will this case fit the new gpus that have the pcie connections on the back?
Before I order, this case will fit the EATX x670e Taichi carrera from ASRock right?
looks like a great build but I’m surprised with all the black screws and parts. Really sloppy looking. Hard to believe montech have a better chassis for less in this category.
it surprised us too as we said in the video
James I always enjoy when u build a custom system. When u going to do another one?
Nothing specifically planned for a custom system build in the near future but who knows what might come up.
i'd like to see the reviews for MSI MEG Maestro 700
I had my eye on the smaller 2500x, only to find out it is absolutely massive compared to something like the 011 mini..
Do you really want such a small system though ?
@@thetechdevil-jn1vo Yes, absolutely!
I want my case to have as small a footprint as possible.. Sandwich layer between 2x360 mm would be perfect for an ITX with a custom loop.
Presumably, people buy ATX because of the expansion slots.. But in most cases these go unused, leaving you with a bunch of waste and a giant box of air.
I like building PCs and I hate wasted space..
@@Kaymen1980ok makes sense. Cases must be a lot better now. My last tiny system was always overheating due to so much heat crammed into a small area.
What are the box dimensions of CORSAIR 6500X
What did you do to mod the case for the fans?
Maybe I missed it, but what about the sag on the graphics card? Is there something to use for anti-sag? It looks a bit sagging there.
Theres nothing built into the case to reduce graphics card sag.
@@KitGuruTech Thanks for the reply, ya that is a bummer. Don't want to end up with cracked PCB.
Do they sell a bracket or something?
Their is vertical gpu bracket sold separately for this. @@festerleech4952
Thanks
Welcome!
I like a dual chamber case but the downside is they are just really wide.
Moto Moto
Dual chamber is good looking forward to a triple chamber with cooling either side. You know someone's going to come up with it.
In vertical gpu is there no extra support? Weight wise. No i didnt watch whole vid before posting
Nothing built into the case to help reduce graphics card sag.
Antec C8
We should be reviewing that soon.
The back fan can fit a 140?
Yes.
Yes 120 or 140 fan support on the rear and there's some vertical height adjustment too.
@@KitGuruTechThere are so few dual chamber cases that support a 140 in the back, it's kind of a shame. I got a Corsair 680x and I like it a lot, except my current GPU barely fits in there, and all my fans are 140's. I've been looking for a new case for some time (not just for the GPU clearance, other reasons too), but I really want a dual chamber again so I've been passing on pretty much everything since it's all 120s in the back, unless the case is humungous. I thought about the Hyte Y70, but man is it expensive AF since it includes the display.
@@EfrainManyeah it’s not ideal. My issues with the hyte would be the build quality though. When James reviewed it here it was flexing really badly. I know it’s maybe not a big issue in the grand scheme of things but I was surprised at how badly some of it is put together
good chassis. Seems a bit behind the leaders already.
It has some rather surprising oversights
Why is everyone mounting the radiators on the top while u can have intake from the side, look awful performs worse
Also removable fan brackets on top and bottom would be great for cleaning
So corsair is truly over hdd light and reset button or rgb button
There is a reset button above the USB-A ports but no HDD LED.
No HDD led is super annoying.
It’s well behind competitors imo. Poor release.
The amount of space that needs to be set aside for cooling nowadays on a gaming PC is just insane! Intel / AMD / Nvidia really need to start looking at producing cooler running hardware.
I don't get why someone would buy this case over a O11D RGB Wich is way more beautiful and is cheaper
How much cheaper is it ?
Or a montech king 95 pro.
@@swizzler8053 we like that case too, one we remember fondly when we reviewed it
I like that this case is specifically designed for iCUE Link, that's my main reason.
also, ultimately, no one has to have a valid reason or explain it, people are allowed to spend their money how they want
I agree with you, some people possibly do not and vote for this one
I'll take a standard mid-tower case like the 5000d Airflow any day over all these unoriginal copycat O11 Dynamic builds cluttering up the internet over the last few years. The IPS screen on the CPU cooler looks neat at first, but I'm betting it's going to be one of those gimmicky components that's going to look dated in a couple years.
Seems like everyone and their mom are building their own o11. Can't say I'm a fan of these dual chamber case trend. I prefer traditional looking cases.
Yes - everyone seems to be targeting this audience right now with similar designs.
Lian Li? Every time I see those 10..14 fan cases something dies inside me.
Meanwhile fans are some of the most profitable parts by those companies. How come...
Looks like a nice case spoiled by lack of attention to detail.
Ohhhh off to watch this now will report back 😮
Disappointing. Not terrible but seems a year or more out of date !
For what it is, i feel it's overpriced and things like the King 95 kinda make this look like a bad joke. The only thing i guess some people would like is the 4 usb on the front i/o, but how many people really want or even need that and maybe the different panels could be nice.
The King 95 is great value, it's built well and offers all the hardware support most gamers will need, it's difficult to see past it.
Still confused why I would wants fans to cool down glass
The lack of full 140mm support is the main reason i wouldnt buy this case. Such a shame. Especially since corsair is one of the only people that make a 420mm aio. Which i own! 😤
@garetht677 it's for people that want a system to run quiet but not sacrifice poor thermals. Plus it looks like in my case. It just fills it out
to much tall for me and cant 14cm fans side...still better montech king in my opinion
Niggles? Don't say that in the US or you might get beat down.
Am I the only one who thinks this case is starting to look boring?
What a rubbish build! Just kidding James that looks amazing.
this poor horse carcass just keeps getting flogged....
Another fishtank. No thanks.
This case is a pass!
What case are you using now ?
@@KitGuruTech Im using the Phanteks Evolv X, but looking to build a BTF this year. I will wait for the Lian Li version 🤞.
Corsair is very gimmicky.