Aiko's Mistake
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- SPOILER WARNING for Oyasumi Punpun (Goodnight Punpun) a manga by Inio Asano. REUPLOAD FROM LAST YEAR.
I finally read Oyasumi Punpun! It was a really great manga. I was enjoying it a ton before the Aiko chapters, and the Aiko chapters hit hard man. I really enjoyed the relatable nature of the manga, but after the event happened, the manga turned into a weird mess of strong emotions near the end. This video is my way of coping and to make some sense of it all, if at all.
This video is on my thoughts on the character Aiko Tanaka, her life in contrast to Punpun's, and Inio Asano's commentary on life through this manga.
Not gonna lie I finished Oyasumi Punpun literally right before my finals. The whole time I was doing my final, I was thinking about Aiko lol.
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Just finished reading this amazing story last night. You would imagine if two "fix me"s started dating they would slowly begin to repair their lives together. But what can also end up is something far more broken as we see with Aiko and Punpun.
In most cases, fix me's are just not a good pair. They actively bring each other down. My theory being that it's related to feeling comfortable with being with someone as broken as yourself so you actively try to keep them on your level.
I've seen relationships like this before. They don't end well.
@@redflamingarrow_ damn first hand experience or smth
@@karan3658 might be a bit personal but two people close to me are both "fix-me"'s in a relationship. Their relationship is turbulent af, but they usually work well together. Altho I've heard of this kind of stuff going much worse (based on what I've heard from others).
@@redflamingarrow_ thing is u need to have the will or determination to fix urself so that others around u won't suffer imo
Something i learned from berserk
@@karan3658 I agree 100% man. You gotta be willing to admit when you're wrong, willing to work on yourself, and willing to admit you don't know everything.
Btw I'm on Volume 3 of Beserk, starting to really like it too.
I think they could've blossomed into a semi-functional couple if Aiko's mother hadn't tried to kill them
I think so as well. It would be a little abusive, but I think it would have worked out in the end.
Imo if only punpun had stable mind and took responsibility for her , she could've atleast been alive 😔😔😔😔😔
Naah, punpun was toxic
@@Vaviel_ yeah agree
In my headcanon they turned themselves into the police at the beach town; both got medical treatment and put on parole and they basically just settled down there.
Punpun got his drivers license and real estate license.
Aiko took over the local clinics and the city folk visit them whenever they take off for vacation.
my Unpopular opinion :
It's not Aiko's mistake that she thought love would heal her
It's the fact that she loved punpun , who's mental stability is already hanging in a thread 😔😔
I don't disagree with you. You're totally right. Punpun and Aiko were both in pretty bad mental states and they brought out the worst in each other. Kinda like a positive feedback loop of two mentally unstable people.
But at the same time I think she geniunely did love punpun.
@@redflamingarrow_ Aiko had her problems I agree
But punpun had worse mental problems , he only made Aiko's insecurities worsen
In the end punpun had people to rely on , but Aiko only had him after her stepmom 😭😭😭😭
Aiko really needed someone to be with her , her suicide will always be punpun's fault imo
@@karan3658 I think it's a lot to say that Punpun's at fault for Aiko's suicide. But I can see what you mean. If Aiko had a lifeline like Punpun did, her story would probably have ended differently. And in the manga we are shown how she pushes everyone away, in a way much harsher than Punpun does. But that's just my interpretation of the story.
I'm not sure who had worse mental problems lol. I'd have to reread the story again to get a better idea of who was really in a worse place. But at the very least I hope we can agree that AIko and Punpun brought the worst out of each other.
Also making these videos are emotionally draining for me cause of how sad Aiko's story is lmao. But I love the story so I'll power through.
@@redflamingarrow_in my case i sort to rereading Berserk 💪💪
U should also check it mate
How would that be an unpopular opinion? That is exactly what it is, it's not uncomon from people who suffered abuse and got an horrible life to develop an unhealthy emotional attachment over terrible people and refuse any help. The life is their so they may ruin it as they wish but other people don't have the right to ruin their life for them, that is where the problem lies.
God the aiko dream at the end hurts me every time. That feeling of thinking back on your childhood but not being able to clearly remember someone. Not being able to recall the name of someone you had such fondness for when you were younger. It’s such a sad and hopeless feeling. Even when you try your hardest their face slowly slips away over the years and all you can remember is the way you felt about them…
Truly, like tears in rain
While I can agree with some of what's said, I think some parts can/should be interpreted differently based on the overall story & their actions:
I don't think Aiko purposely left Punpun because of selfish reasons, like wanting to die happy & that would make her remembered forever, as you mention. I think it was two-fold - She recognized that what Punpun had become for her sake was not what she had fallen in love with as a child ( And Punpun also had started to realize this, as he spends much of the time unhappy with her current-self & chasing her past-self ), or even prior to the murder. She felt that in her death he could be "free" from all this, even if it leads to some kind of sadness too. She was correct. Punpun was given an additional chance at life, even if not the life he initially envisions for himself. Because he no longer has an "Aiko" to chase, like we saw him do all the way through the manga to this point, he can finally "move on" with his own life. His entire life up to this point in the story was to live for someone else. His only purpose was so that he could find Aiko and she'd be the one to kill him or love him. EVERYTHING revolved around that. Nearly every action he took served the purpose of either finding Aiko or shaping/positioning himself so that he would be her eventual ideal. With Aiko dead Punpun no longer has this "ghost" of a young school-boy crush running around in his mind. He knows what it was really like now & what happened & what the outcome was. There is no chase left to give.
This is best showcased in how Punpun handles his chronicling of his life after her death, as if talking to Aiko. He isn't incredibly sad. He isn't incredibly angry. He even says things like: "I'm moving forward. It turns out it's not so hard." He then speaks of one of the most powerful overarching points of the entire manga: We glorify our memories, particularly those we formed when young. We find out that the "Milky Way" they all saw as children maybe wasn't exactly the way they remember & this likely extends well into their memories of each other, PunPun then bringing up how maybe he never quite remembered her correctly to begin with - Was that what her voice was really like? Is that what she ever really looked like? He then starts to let her go even more, mentioning further that maybe both their memories of each other, the stars the evening, it always being cloudy, maybe their own memories are faulty and he needs to move forward.
Aiko didn't make a mistake in the end.
Aiko recognized that if both of them are around, they'll both remain "broken" - As they can't go back to when they were kids & they can't handle what each other has become. She recognized that one of them had to die to save the other. She made the decision before Punpun could.
Idk man that's something an individual with "bpd" would not think of
The saddest thing about it all is that the future Punpun envisioned with Aiko was what motivated him throughout much of the manga which just makes it even worse that the one girl he truly loved ended up doing what she did, and like real life Punpun has to pay the price for putting all his eggs in one basket only for it all to be smashed to pieces before his eyes.
It's a real tragedy.
I hope you've never had the misfortune of someone close to you dying, but it's just like it's portrayed in the manga. Life goes on. You kinda forget they were there, but small little things remind of them. And for a little while you feel hurt but return to baseline and keep living your life.
There's no real catharsis that "fixes" everything and you accept they are gone. Life just keeps going without them. One moment they're with us, the next they're gone. But in a sense we live for them I think. My next video might talk about this a little bit. Although it won't be on Punpun.
@@redflamingarrow_ so imo
it's better to cherish those moments at hand than to wallow on past coz we won't realise that the person we made memories might become a memeory
@@karan3658 yes exactly. Appreciate those who are around you is more important than most people give credit for.
@@redflamingarrow_ like how in punpun case Aiko became a distant memory
@@karan3658 yeah it's an unfortunate case, but it's important to appreciate what you have while you still have it. I do hope Aiko found some peace in death. I also hope Punpun found some peace in life.
But as with both the nature of life and the nature of stories. I don't think we'll ever know for each.
Loved the analysis video on Aiko and Punpun's relationship. As heartbreaking as it is, I can't help but feel sad on how Aiko's eventually forgotten by Punpun, though it is for the better. Also, love how you included the Persona 3 OST.
It's a bit of an Easter egg cause persona 3's themes are kind of related to the theme explored through Aiko's death.
But also dw I also died a little inside when I read this manga.
@@redflamingarrow_ oh yeah, the social link for the one character who was basically on his deathbed sort of aligns with the overall theme of the video. Definitely did a great job with it overall. And dude, trust me, I think we all died a little after reading this manga lol
@@ameenahahmed1605 true Aiko shouldn't have killed herself , only for punpun to forget her 😞😞😞
Her mistake was loving him. He was selfish and self absorbed, nothing he did was out of anything more than how it made HIM feel, he was not "there" he wasn't happy with her, and she could sense that, she projected so much in the promises he made that she wasted her whole life wIting for him to keep them. He never needed her. Ever. But from the moment she met him she needed what he promised. Love, anf he really didn't know how to. Just go through motions.
Legit. I'd argue they were both this way, but really it was not what either of them needed at the time.
@redflamingarrow_ i can see that too. She did end up killing her own monster of a mother to "free" herself, and that ended up complicating and destroying any semblance of a chance they may have scaped together.🥲
facts. I haven’t seen someone mention it but he led her on too hard 😓 the first time was unlucky. however the second time he literally held her hand tightly knowing that if he did it would be solidified but then at the end of all of that he abandons that and says he’d fall into a deep hole if he stole yugichis girlfriend. basically ripped her heart out
Punpun was the one who has never been able to move on relying on a false image he had about Aiko. She was as selfish as him, since the love she felt was at least partially related to her hope that punpun could represent a way of escaping her reality
Their story reminds me of the song "Love the way you lie" both parts. Two broken people can never have a healthy relationship. Trauma bonding, literally.
Oyasumi pun pun is so amazing it’s by far my favorite manga. And it’s so amazing how people interpret it. I see the ending as a melancholic one where pun pun is stuck in hell with his new family. Being trapped with the people he left behind and not able to leave and join aiko.
I still think that Punpun being alive leaves some sense of hope for him in the future. But who can really say for sure. I know Asano does not agree with me lol.
Why the hell am I crying now? You worded this WAY too good man..
I'm sick, I haven't slept for even a minute last night because of the constant coughing and I'm supposed to go outside soon. And yet I'm sitting here, bawling my eyes out. Oh this day is going GREAT.😅 (Awesome video tho. I can totally see why you're proud of it!)
I'm sorry man!!!
If it makes you feel better I was bawling while writing the script!
@@redflamingarrow_ ... fair enough. 😅
Something I've heard someone say is the reason Aiko never smiled in Punpun's dream is because she knows, even this version of herself, that Punpun will forget her as Punpun never kept a single a promise made between the two instead always breaking the trust she went to put in him. Punpun is an awful person, much worse than Aiko I'd argue, but as you put he had people who accepted him no matter what while Aiko only had her mother and ultimately that's what made the difference, Punpun was in love with the idea he had of Aiko while Aiko was just in love with the idea of unconditional love which she sought through Punpun.
Also I'm glad that you agree that the ending of Punpun is hopeful, I see so many people calling it a downer ending because the author said so but in reality I think that it's ultimately happy. I'd love to see a discussion on how the more human Punpun becomes the more inhuman his actions become because his character design through the series and how when he reaches he lowest points we see him lose his bird self to become a human eventually not even having a hidden head being fully revealed in bandages at his very lowest.
A reporter asked the author about the story's ending he said, he wants the worst ending for pun pun, so he proceed to put chains(ex friends, a girlfriend and a child that not his) so he can never escape by killing himself
The worst ending is punpun not dying 💀
And that the author said punpun never got anything to go to his favor. He wanted to kill himself, he lived. He wanted to slowly vanish, live in isolation without being known and he ends up stuck in the friendgroup like you said. Amazing ending
I know what you mean. That was the author's original intention of course, but despite that I did pick up a little bit of hope in the ending. I don't think Asano was successful at portraying a completely tragic ending.
This does come with a bit of personal bias probably, but as long as Punpun is still alive, there is still hope for him finding some kind of contentment in his life. To me that's what that panel of him waving to Harumi represented. He's surrounded by family and friends and seems to be starting a new family with Sachi. I also don't think that's that bad cause I myself was raised by a stepdad. Again some personal bias there.
Thank you for this fantastic video
bro, the last part broke me, it is a great video, and i hope your channel can keep growing and you can continue making great videos like this.
Ngl this video was pure cope for the last part of the manga loll
i couldnt agree more, i have total respect for you!
pfp checks out
Amazing video man, very very nice
Thank you - beautiful concise opinion! Having just recently been introduced to the world of Punpun, I was very moved by your presentation and commentary of this aspect of it. 💙
Thank you! I really hoped you enjoyed my perspective on the story!
Over time my opinion on the story has become more mellow, that it couldn't have been helped. Aiko should be forgiven, and so maybe should Punpun.
Beautiful analysis
Punpun is fantastic because of how many ways you really can look at it. Different people's insights into the story can tell you a lot about who they are as people.
I don't think I could ever get everything I think about the series into words but a large theme I picked up on was guilt. We all have things we wish we could revisit and undo, but becoming fixated on these things will only make you miserable. It becomes a self fulfilling prophecy once you start telling yourself how awful you are because of something that you did in the past. Punpun's uncle is an example of this, where he would just stew in self hatred until he revisited the pottery shop. You cannot begin to move past prior mistakes and heal until you let go of that guilt.
Punpun and Aiko is the key example though. Both of them thought that everything would be fine if they could just fix that one regret, but when they found that it changed literally nothing, and they didn't even really seem to like eachother that much, the disappointment was too much to bear (combined with the stress of being fugitives). In a way it was also ironic that if they had just gone back and confronted the consequences of their crime, they likely would have been able to argue self defence and receive lighter punishment. I think that may have been what ended up happening with Punpun anyway, haven't read in a while. Lol i could make one of these videos if I put my thoughts together more coherently.
This is kinda nice!! I like it ❤
Idk anything about manga’s and stuff, but this was very well put together
This story is very sad but I feel like sad stories sometimes hold the best commentary on life. Punpun for one definitely did.
I had a very different reading. We see everything through Punpun's eyes. Not only does he attempt to absolve himself of his involvement with Aiko - intentional retcons that could be construed as too coincidental, such as making it so Aiko took responsibility for killing her mother rather than Punpun - he attempts to remove guilt of her from his mind entirely... only to bind himself to a mother with a son that isn't his. It's amazing how people overlook this and think Punpun is redeemable. It's like if Dostoevsky's Raskolnikov instead of confessing his sin by the ending, he doubles down and never confronts himself.
Instead of accountability, Punpun self-editorializes - he tricks the reader into thinking of a stereotypical happy ending with Sachi. But we know better. We know Punpun's personality, his depression, his dark desires. We know it hasn't left him but he wants so badly to feel like he's on the path to healing. We see proof of Punpun's crimes in how he repeats the cycle of becoming a "guardian" to troubled girls. His internalized desire to self-actualize without actually taking accountability is on full display. It's why Inio Asano stated it wasn't a "happy" ending or wasn't meant to be interpreted as such.
prolly the most underrated channel ive ever seen like damn how you only have 300+ subs
i love aiko so much. all she wanted was to escape from the abuse but the people in her life who was supposed to love and protect her ended up doing the opposite. been years since i've read this manga but her story still breaks my heart :'( may we never forget her
Great video!!!!!!!!!!!!
This was such a good manga. I wish I could erase my memory and reread it again
Thanks for reminding me of this manga
It wasn't me it was youtube
It wasn't me!!!
this is very very nice
when I was reading the finale I never saw punpun with his new friends and family. thought it was punpun waving to his friend. Doesn't help I never wore my glasses but idk how I never saw it
this video makes me want to watch more anime !
Not all anime is actually good. But this manga in particular is a special one. Give it a shot, if you can handle dark themes!
Nice !!!!
After finshing this manga i think i'll go off myself now.
Don't do it!
Aiko deserves justice
How dare the author
Dats mah girl aiko 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️💯💯💯
Sounds like a sad story
It's very sad but I feel that dad stories hold the best commentary for nature of life and the human condition.
It's tragic.
YES THIS IS A RE-UPLOAD.
This was the video that pretty much lead to the current direction of this channel. I remember being so proud of this video wanting to share it with everyone. And then the worst possible thing happened. It was taken down.
That was the worst feeling ever, I made this amazing video and it was done really well. I wanted to show everyone that I was leading my channel into a more video essay centric direction. I wanted people to see how my content had changed from silly gaming videos to serious videos analyzing themes and the human condition. It felt unfair, it felt terrible, it felt like I was denied the one thing I wanted from this channel.
But that takedown, in some way lead to the videos that I have out now, that are getting 100x the amount of views that I would usually get. This video is essentially the genesis of my channel as it is.
For that reason, I'm going to keep re-editing and re-posting this video until I find a way to get it on YT. It's one of my favourite videos I've ever done and I am completely within fair use and fair dealing. I am completely within my right to release this video to the public. It is my work utterly and entirely.
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What happened to her body, did those kids take her away? Im confused by that.
There’s a panel where punpun leaves her body with the kids and goes back to get her bag I think? And once he’s across the field where the call phone is, there’s an ambulance passing by
💜
I just finished the manga after starting it in the summer last year, I’m parked outside the barns and noble where I read and finished it, god, I didn’t want to accept it!!! I don’t even want to say it!!! It hurts man, such an angel Aiko💔
He only issue is getting involved with punpun
The ending was not even a tinge of hopeful as you apparently made it look for some portions it was literally the most tragic ending PunPun could have ever got
I know what you mean. That was the author's original intention of course, but despite that I did pick up a little bit of hope in the ending. I don't think Asano was successful at portraying a completely tragic ending.
This does come with a bit of personal bias probably, but as long as Punpun is still alive, there is still hope for him finding some kind of contentment in his life. To me that's what that panel of him waving to Harumi represented. He's surrounded by family and friends and seems to be starting a new family with Sachi. I also don't think that's that bad cause I myself was raised by a stepdad. Again some personal bias there.
Mmm i wonder if you also heart my comment 🤔
It was a mistake reading this as my first manga
God rest your soul... :(
this is one of the worst first options you coulda picked and I am so sorry. was it a recommendation or did you see bird man and think it was a wholesome slice of life? if it was a recommendation then that person is EVIL
Something about being a liar is so childish
Its been 4 years since I've read this so i dont remember much, but people in this comment section are saying that "Punpun didn't love Aiko" as if he didn't say "I wanna make your life miserable" after getting to bed with her when they met again
a tragic portrait of borderline personality disorder and limerence
I miss my wife
Psycho gf moment
James Sunderland moment
Hughes?
same bro
I could have helped her
Real
"I can fix her" - Me 2024
i feel like if people love aiko and hate punpun, they’re not reading the story properly or are simply not connected to humanity enough.
both character, in-fact all, are really tragic as a result of traumas and inner turmoil that was beyond their control.
it’s sad how they both turned out
(by the way i don’t hate aiko. in fact, i don’t hate or love any character. i empathise with every single one of them)
Actually real. I got so many comments from people who absolutely hate Punpun and think Aiko was an angel in comparison.
@@redflamingarrow_ it’s like they haven’t read the story at all. we are all reading mostly punpuns perspective and it’s dives in to his thoughts and feelings and it should pretty much make the reader somewhat build empathy for him because we know why he turned out the way he did. it’s not excusable though but it’s logical why he turned out that way. nobody can hate him because he is a human and the mind is fragile, there’s only so much a person can take before they crack
but i feel like most of the readers just read to see “the tragic murder and suicide” and haven’t really fully invested in the whole thing #tbh thats why i feel like almost everyone kinda missed the whole gist of it
I don't think anyone in this story is all good or all bad. It's easy to turn things into a black and white situation, but I really disagree that it is black and white to be honest. There was a lot of things that Aiko did in the story at which I may or may not have said "WHAT ARE YOU DONG??" out loud while reading...
But the same is for Punpun. It's just that we live in Punpun's head that we get to see everything he's gone through and is doing. Most of the characters in the story likely have "punpun moments" too.
Oh how I love sachi
I get that many see the story's ending as a good one. but there are fans who beg to differ because pun pun is forced to live everyday of his life without the girl he was longing for years while living with the guilt that he is forgetting her day by day but never forgetting the feeling, as you said. but to me, the ending is just as neutral as it gets. sure aiko is dead and pun pun is slowly forgetting her, but he chooses to move on with the tragedy he has just faced. that's just how life is. and when he cried saying good bye to harumi even though it is implied that pun pun forgot harumi's name, it proved the point that pun pun's feelings for harumi never went away, the same way when pun pun will never forget the feelings he felt for aiko.
You didn't fully get punpun
What did I miss?
aiko ruined punpun's life
I half agree, but I think Punpun blamed his life going wrong on Aiko even though it wasn't really her fault, or his own...
@@redflamingarrow_ when you think about it hard i can't fully blame her too since she is also flawed.
@@This_Guy-yep
Lol, "You reap what you sow", is totally the case with aiko and she totally deserved it what happened to her. And I feel sorry for punpun rather than aiko. Reread the story than you will understand, what I am saying is, if aiko hadn't come, and met punpun, punpun would have been playing with his friends like normal, but aiko made unreasonable request to go to kagashima, when they are literally kids, ofc punpun can't make her wish true and punpun got depressed, and again he made promise with yaguchi because of aiko and because of her toxic mindset, she pursued punpun and gave him hope, and punpun tried to cheat yaguchi, which further lead him to self loathe himself because punpun was kind and he liked yaguchi...........
Poor punpun, he had a bad childhood, then had a crush on a toxic girl, then his father and mother got divorced and he was forced with a mother, that he didn't love because of her careless attitude and a coward father.......
I mean punpun isn't that bad, I would Like to think for most of the chapter he tried to kind and considerate to others.
And yes, punpun have faults but tried to overcome it but whenever he did or had a hope he only failed and at last failed but aiko didn't even tried to do something of her situation and just relied on punpun for help in last arc, and when punpun gave up everything for her sake, she constantly doubted his love and did I mentioned that for aiko love was a trade? Is that if you love me than I love you is a toxic mindset because it is based agreement and a agreement can be torn apart easily, hence she constantly doubted punpun or his love for her, which further frustrated punpun, and do not get started on punpun sexual frustration, man. And at the end of the story, even his child was his.........
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I’m guessing you’re not much different from him to be so damn sympathetic towards a piece of shit for a person, that girl was an angel
Incel comment. Blaming Aiko for being toxic when she was as young as punpun when she made the promise to him, neglecting to mention bow punpun was the one that forced their relationship when he met her when they got older, abd forgetting punpuns physically abusive treatment towards Aiko. Women and girls arent objects meant to perpetuate a mabs life, it was not Aiko fault that punpun became obsessed with her. If anything they were both toxic, so blaming Aiko for punpun own faults is the definition of sexist.
You cut me off st punpun fid nothing wrong. For that your an incel
@@ahmadalimi9784weren’t they both obsessed with one another, aiko isn’t punpun’s victim and neither is punpun aiko’s. They’re both unhealthy sure, both having ups and downs in life and their relationship.
stop saying the title in Japanese, it makes you sound pretentious