If I recall cold cases like this are given to new recruits. They don't intend on them to actually solve the case but so the new recruit gets experience with investing cases.
@@tanikokishimoto1604I believe they're thinking it could be a bot of some sort. Similar to how one runs across a lot of news articles that are very short, and sometimes nonsensical, which are written by AI these days. Sometimes they'll say completely unhinged things because the algorithm doesn't actually understand words, it just knows statistically what words go in what order.
I was a unwanted infant when I was born in '82. Thankfully my birthmother gave me up for adoption. Even in the '80's there were multiple other options available for unwanted infants other than murder.
@@MegaBeaches I'm sure it wasn't just a matter of that you weren't wanted ❤️ Your mum maybe thought someone else could give you a better start in life.
@@MegaBeaches funny how the 80 d are billed as do long ago. We've been publicly and legally aborting babies since 1971. Birth control has been widely available since the early 60 's. We KNOW where babies come from . Even in 82 .
@@ConstantiaVertedSome children really are unwanted and unloved. It's a lonely life, made worse by the fact that so many people refuse to believe it is possible.
This touched me particularly because baby Jane was almost the same age as my youngest daughter who has grown up to have a happy and successful life. There was a case a few years ago in Russia of a cat saving an abandoned baby who had also been abandoned in freezing weather, this time in a cardboard box in the street. The cat snuggled up to the baby to keep him warm and miaowed loudly to passers-by until somebody rescued him. Fortunately that baby was saved.
My son has a service dog to protect him during bouts from his neurological disorder. So, Dr. Grande's description of Paka's heroism and heart really got me😢 RIP baby Jane and Paka.💖
She didn't like being pregnant, didn't want a baby, and was in complete denial of having a baby. She didn't want anyone to know she had been pregnant, so she just left the baby.
@@lifespanwellnessbeauty-60i64she literally could have left the baby on the doorstep, rung the doorbell, and run away and nobody would have figured it out (at least until DNA testing was a thing, like when she got caught). Sorry, it just infuriates me that she just callously killed this poor innocent baby for no reason. 🤬.
check the horrifying case just happened in italy: Chiara Petrolini, a brilliant law student, CHOSE twice to get secretly pregnant, smoked and abused drugs and alcohol to weaken the unborn babies, instead of using contraceptives, taking the next day pill, giving birth for free, completely assisted by medical staff and giving them anonimously for adoption.. she did all alone in her bathroom, killed them, and then buried them RIGHT IN FRONT of her window, then had an appointment in the beauty salon, had parties with her friends, flied with her parent in Japan, and NY after the second murder, ready to do it again and again: having intercourse with her boyfriend, hiding the pregnancy, waiting until the labor, killing them and collecting in front of her window. But her dogs took one baby out from the garden and showed it to the grandma (while the killer was "buying luxury bags and shoes in NY")
Beyond shameful and humbling when even the dog knows that a crime was commited. Bravo, Dr Grande for establishing that very fact and highlighting it here. Sometimes animals CAN show more compassion than humans.
That sweet dog must have licked the poor baby, trying to unfreeze her. Since the baby was only party frozen. It's devastating. Especially because that couple would have happily taken her. RIP angel, may you be happily playing with that sweet doggy in heaven.
Oh bull crap, I guarantee she never gave her newborn baby a second thought after abandoning her to die in freezing temperatures. Horrible and heartless.
I know, right? Like all she had to do was drop the baby off in front of the neighbors house, ring the doorbell, and run away, and the baby probably would have been ok. Better yet actually give the baby up for adoption like a rational human.
@@advena996yes. She could have called 911 too and said she gave birth and needed help and then say she couldnt handle parenting and do the adoption or at least drop off like he said she was not unaware it happened
@@roems6396Indiana actually has a program (or was proposed) where at fire stations if you don't want your baby they have basically a drop box. It's temperature controlled and will alert staff that a baby has been placed there.
ME TOO!! And just a few minutes ago, before I even knew about this story, I just called my daughter and said, "Happy 39th Birthday Sweetheart" And then this video appeared in my recommended watch section, and I watched it and cried. And I agree with you, this is indeed a HORRIFIC crime! And I think she should have got more time! RIP sweet baby Jane.
The fact that D.N.A. technology was so limited in 1985 means that she easily could have abandoned the baby safely (e.g. inside any heated public building) without risk of being caught. She did not even have the slightest excuse for her decision to murder.
I speculate that she was either covering up her infidelity to John Daigle, her naive boyfriend of 5 months, future husband, father of her surviving girls, and her current ex-husband or John Daigle knew about her being an unfaithful unwed mother and he did not want to raise her illegitimate baby. Yet, he gladly ran away with her once the news of the baby's death spread.
@@nanettevantriesteharder2469 That doesn’t have anything to do with my point. Regardless of the circumstances, she could have anonymously abandoned the baby safely.
@@icturner23 Her vocalized justification for her murderous actions toward her firstborn daughter was a poor excuse, in my opinion. Your opinion is that "she did not even have the slightest excuse for her decision to murder." I speculated on her and/or her boyfriend's unstated rationale (i.e., 1. an explanation of controlling principles of opinion, belief, practice, or phenomena or 2. an underlying reason or basis). The point is that I largely agree with your assessment, the availability of Safe Haven Laws before, during, and after the expanded development of DNA testing and genetic genealogy for investigation of cold case murders and identification, prosecution, and conviction of murderers notwithstanding.
Jesus bleed and died on that cross for every sinner, and rose again as the receipt. Truth is, we all deserve hell, repent and believe the truth: Galatians 2:20-Jesus Christ "...loved me and gave himself for me." Sure you are a proper judge? Then there is Romans 3: 20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. 21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: ...If you or her she will have faith in the truth you will escape the lake of fire. Self righteousness will not save you.
Dr. Grande - I admire your sweet compassion for this precious baby; and, noting the caring nature of the sensitive Husky. Yes, Ms. Daigle is where she deserves to have been since 1985. Great analysis! 👍💜🌵
Well said dr Grande. Pacca had more compassion for the baby than the infants own mother. And still there are millions of milons of people who hate dogs!!! 🤬
We live in an era where it is generally assumed that gratifying adults' desires is more important than meeting children's needs. That assumption is wrong, and it is the source of many of our problems.
There is a swedish song I like very much that asks the question if you can bring your dog with you when you go to heaven. I believe you can. And for most of us they are already there waiting ❤
I had pregnancy denial. When I gave birth and was handed the baby it was very traumatic. I wasn't "there". I got post natal depression and didn't think the baby was mine and couldn't wait for the real mom to come back. Glad I got help.
@jeraldbottcher1588 It is, in many ways, the same thing - (i) a baby can still feel pain while being aborted, & (ii) a miscarriage, by definition, is an occurrence for which no-one has moral culpability... 😢
@@petermcgoldrick3872 a fetus cannot feel pain until around 25 weeks, at which point almost all abortions occurring are due to medical issues in which the fetus's development is incompatible with life, meaning either the mother will die or the child will.
Justice wasn’t served. It should have been first degree murder. My biological mother was 16 years old, and knew that she didn’t want me, didn’t think she could give me a good life. She gave birth to me on her 16th birthday. I was in foster care for a few months before being adopted by my wonderful parents. How anyone could be pregnant to term than give birth and leave their baby on gravel in winter is beyond comprehension
@@soozig1909 This is easy! A fetus isn’t a person, so it’s not first degree murder; but even if I grant that a fetus is a person, does a person have the right to use your body to stay alive? If no, then why should a fetus get special rights that a person shouldn’t even have?
Back in the 60's they'd leave the infants at churches; when this child was born - mid-80's they'd drop them anywhere BUT usually in an area that the child would be noticed.
Dunno about the US, but where I live you can even leave a baby at the hospital anonymously. Police will search for the mother if that happens, but that's probably because she could've been acting on an impulse. It's not punishable
Thank you for calling her what she is, Dr Grande. Even if it was a passive way of going about it. You and I both know this woman is despicable. The couple that wanted a child, and then their dog brings them a dead baby, is going to stick with me for the rest of my life. 😔 God bless them. Thank you for telling baby Jane's story. And, as usual, you are 100% correct in your thoughts and analysis.
Simply the connection that the dog was doing what she could to help... Seriously had to pause, cry that out if my system before finishing the video... Just the image that the dog had more heart... Very, very sad...
What is wrong with people. Exactly. In 1985 I was 23 yrs old, so going back to this time is easy for me to imagine. This woman is evil, she got off too easy. The fact that she was blessed with two more daughters is sickening when she tossed her firstborn out like nothing more than a McDonalds wrapper on the roadside.
This case is really making me reflect. I had a roommate who chose to abort a baby she conceived at age 20 (in the 1980s). Months later she said to me, "Doesn't even seem real that I was pregnant. It's like it never happened." She was able to push it to the back of her mind and ignore it. Like it never happened. I'm guessing Lee Ann did the same sort of convenient mental gymnastics. My friend wasn't very bright. I'm guessing Lee Ann isn't the sharpest tool in the box either. My friend... she graduated college, married the father of her aborted child and went on to have two more children with him. I often wonder if her first child ever crosses her mind. I doubt it. What need was there to kill her first child? I'll never understand it. I guess it was just inconvenient. 😢
@@edelweiss2.076 sounds like she didn't have the time or money to raise a child so she aborted the fetus, that's the smart thing to do, why bring a kid into the world where you cannot provide for them properly, nice to know she has a wonderful family now
Knowing the couple who found baby Jane were desperate to be parents makes this that much heartbreaking. 😢 She couldn't be bothered to wrap the baby and leave her on their doorstep? 10 extra minutes was too much for that selfish woman. It was selfishness and nothing more. Protecting an infant is the most basic of human instinct.
This exact same thing broke my heart to pieces. Imagine if that dog had brought a baby to his family. But maybe it just wasn’t meant to be. Maybe that was just meant to be an angel… hope she didn’t suffer much in her short life.
Just imagine an innocent, vulnerable baby, shell shocked being birthed into a world, seeing light for the first time, breathing for the first time, hungry and needing care and love immediately. Instead, leaving a safe warm area, the only existence you’ve ever known, and left to cry, freeze and die on a hard, cold rocky ground. How could ANYONE listen to their own baby crying out for them and just drive off in the freezing cold? It takes the most inhuman, insidious, evil person.
I think my sister had this… she would lie to us the entire time she was pregnant and would lie and say she wasn’t. She was a grown adult at the time too… lived on her own and all,.. it was the oddest thing
@kingcosworth2643 he participated in the one night stand, he was being irresponsible. So no chances are he didn't give af. He knows the consequences. It's just that no one holds men responsible for their own actions.
Your thoughts on this case indicate that you have a profound understanding of the cruelty in the world... As well as the reason to continue living in it. Because there is still goodness, as found in Haka the dog
Baby Jane would be two weeks older than me. This is making me feel some comped emotions, thinking about everyone I’ve known my age that has a family. Jane would probably have one too.
Please don't let other TH-camrs get you down. You are great at this TH-cam thing ❤. Even if I disagree with your opinion sometimes, you have the right to have one.
18 inches and 6 pounds. When i heard that all i can think of is how warm my last baby girl's skin felt on my cheeck after she was born. How soft the skin on her little legs and arms were. I can not imagine. The idea that this sweet warm little bundle would be left to die and be found half frozen. It turns the stomach. Even the dog knew better than the baby's own mother. I was 15 when i conceived my first. I turned 16 four months before she was born. Immaturity is no excuse. I will never understand what is going on in the brain of people that can be so careless with the life of another. I really honestly just can not imagine it.
I don't often cry at your videos. This broke my heart. This monster deserves LWOP. She murdered her baby in the most callous, unfeeling, and horrific way. I was a teenager in 1985, and there was plenty of access to birth control. There's no excuse for this pathetic apology for a human being. NONE.
The cruel irony is the family whose dog found baby Jane would have love to have had a child. I think that Packa did know Baby Jane needed to be loved. I would not be shocked if the childless family thought and prayed for baby Jane.
This is a heartbreaking story, especially when you spoke about the dog, Paco, and the couple who never had any children, but would have loved to have a baby. Leanne did NOT think about that night every single day of her life. What a lie!! She never looked back. She said so herself, she never thought about returning and saving the baby. Leaving a baby with no chance is awful, when there are churches , hospitals, and other buildings that she could have left the baby, with a 100% chance of being found within minutes!!
I live 10 miles from there. I remember when it happened. You nailed it again Dr. Grande!! At 21 she was totally capable. There were resources here. She could have left that baby on anyone’s porch around here at that time and she would have grown up well. She deserves the time she gets. You’re right about her not really caring. She proved that. You are so smart. Poor little baby. 💕
Appreciate your input about resources in the area because most people probably don't realize how remote it is northern Maine. I had wondered what services she had access to.
Thank you Dr, on your thoughts of delayed capture and sentencing. I have thought about this a lot as it seems harsh to sentence “an old man, or lady, to a crime they committed years ago…” But the truth still remains that they did so the crime and they got To escape and live their life, so yes, they should still be judged appropriately. Thanks for letting me wrestle with my feelings on this topic!!! Have a great day everybody!!!! ❤ from Australia 🇦🇺
Humanity should be ashamed of ourselves that an animal had more compassion than a human mother. What an absolute disgrace to our species. Justice was NOT served. 16 years for abandoning a newborn infant in freezing weather to die alone? That woman is beyond dangerous. She should never be free again.
That's wild about the dog, that means that there's a chance that the baby was able to take a breath on her own and there was a chance she could have been saved by the couple.
I’m just glad that someone thought Baby Jane’s death was still worth investigating 37 years later, and that she wasn’t just forgotten ❤
If I recall cold cases like this are given to new recruits. They don't intend on them to actually solve the case but so the new recruit gets experience with investing cases.
She was born like 15 days after I was born on. She would just be 39 years old now. I was Nov 19th 1985. This one made me sad
Smart dog, she did everything possible. Bringing the baby back and banging on the door, incredible sweet dog.
Dogs are such amazing creatures. We take them for granted.
I'm not crying... you are the one who crying...😢😢😢
Paco cared more about the infant than her own mother. WOW! Let that sink in. Dogs are a blessing.
@lindacarlson6887 They really are a blessing, I have loved so many though my years
woof
DNA. What a miracle. Solving 37 year old murders. I like that the baby was never given up on by the department.
A horrible waste of government resources
@@Menstral uhhhh....i take it you think that murderers shouldn't be prosecuted?
@@snickerbockers5988 don't interact with rage baiters. half the time, it's not even a person
@@Herbaceously if not a person, what is the poster? A lot of people are not truly acting humanely to begin with.
@@tanikokishimoto1604I believe they're thinking it could be a bot of some sort. Similar to how one runs across a lot of news articles that are very short, and sometimes nonsensical, which are written by AI these days. Sometimes they'll say completely unhinged things because the algorithm doesn't actually understand words, it just knows statistically what words go in what order.
Baby Jane did not die from cold weather, she died from a mother with a cold heart.
So judgey
@hardtakeoff
Seriously? Judgement is something Leanne needed alot more of.
@@nancydupuis8083 Amen! Some people need to hear the cold hard facts...no more coddling these KILLERS
Sad but true
@@hardtakeoffAre you judging her as judgmental?
I was pregnant at 19, no family, no job and new how important it was to love my baby, now 31. She was 21. No words for her evil.
I was a unwanted infant when I was born in '82. Thankfully my birthmother gave me up for adoption. Even in the '80's there were multiple other options available for unwanted infants other than murder.
You weren't unwanted, God created you. A woman adopted you.
Your bio mother did the right thing, blessed you with life.
@@MegaBeaches I'm sure it wasn't just a matter of that you weren't wanted ❤️ Your mum maybe thought someone else could give you a better start in life.
@@MegaBeaches funny how the 80 d are billed as do long ago. We've been publicly and legally aborting babies since 1971. Birth control has been widely available since the early 60 's. We KNOW where babies come from . Even in 82 .
@@ConstantiaVertedSome children really are unwanted and unloved. It's a lonely life, made worse by the fact that so many people refuse to believe it is possible.
@@barbieblue3336You know what she means.
This touched me particularly because baby Jane was almost the same age as my youngest daughter who has grown up to have a happy and successful life. There was a case a few years ago in Russia of a cat saving an abandoned baby who had also been abandoned in freezing weather, this time in a cardboard box in the street. The cat snuggled up to the baby to keep him warm and miaowed loudly to passers-by until somebody rescued him. Fortunately that baby was saved.
Masha the cat even followed the ambulance.
My goodness this gets me in the heart. I hope someone rescued that kitty, too.
Not in the street but an unheated hallway of an apartment building.
My son has a service dog to protect him during bouts from his neurological disorder. So, Dr. Grande's description of Paka's heroism and heart really got me😢 RIP baby Jane and Paka.💖
Thanks for giving the dog the well-deserved shoutout❤️
It broke my heart when he said that the dog gave that baby more thought care and consideration than her own mother wow
You can never fool the dogs nose.
Exactly and dogs deserve so much credit. They are a lot more loving and kind than many humans are.
How about saying something dignified like “recognition” instead of the silly, undignified, and juvenile “shout out.”
@@mikefromflorida8357 I love how you just gave recognition a shout out
Thank you for highlighting this case for Baby Jane. She was a person, a somebody, and would have been loved by someone if she had the chance at life.
Heaps of Respect, Dr. Grande, for giving Paca the Respect and Tribute she DESERVED.
Rest Easy Paca- You were an Angel on Earth.
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
The fact that they didn’t give up on baby Jane, means a lot to me
It's pretty cruel to leave a newborn to freeze to death. I wasn't in her shoes, but come on, she could have dropped the infant off at a hospital.
johfox: Yes!
My thoughts exactly. People have done it
Why did she choose for the gravel??
She didn't like being pregnant, didn't want a baby, and was in complete denial of having a baby. She didn't want anyone to know she had been pregnant, so she just left the baby.
@@lifespanwellnessbeauty-60i64she literally could have left the baby on the doorstep, rung the doorbell, and run away and nobody would have figured it out (at least until DNA testing was a thing, like when she got caught). Sorry, it just infuriates me that she just callously killed this poor innocent baby for no reason. 🤬.
"The dog was a hero, the mother was a monster."
check the horrifying case just happened in italy: Chiara Petrolini, a brilliant law student, CHOSE twice to get secretly pregnant, smoked and abused drugs and alcohol to weaken the unborn babies, instead of using contraceptives, taking the next day pill, giving birth for free, completely assisted by medical staff and giving them anonimously for adoption.. she did all alone in her bathroom, killed them, and then buried them RIGHT IN FRONT of her window, then had an appointment in the beauty salon, had parties with her friends, flied with her parent in Japan, and NY after the second murder, ready to do it again and again: having intercourse with her boyfriend, hiding the pregnancy, waiting until the labor, killing them and collecting in front of her window. But her dogs took one baby out from the garden and showed it to the grandma (while the killer was "buying luxury bags and shoes in NY")
@@agostinodublino1387 Dogs reveal the character of humans?
@@agostinodublino1387Woa, crazy 😮
💯 😭
Dr Grande, you made me cry with your speech about Paco and her empathy to a defenseless human infant, I cry for both
Beyond shameful and humbling when even the dog knows that a crime was commited. Bravo, Dr Grande for establishing that very fact and highlighting it here. Sometimes animals CAN show more compassion than humans.
I appreciate the special acknowledgment of Paca.
The dog was a better mother, than the actual mother.
The woman only technically gave birth, she was never a mother, she was/IS only a murderer.
indeed, it tried to save the infant, and the fact that the baby was only partly frozen in sub zero weather, means it hadn't been born much earlier.
That sweet dog must have licked the poor baby, trying to unfreeze her. Since the baby was only party frozen. It's devastating. Especially because that couple would have happily taken her. RIP angel, may you be happily playing with that sweet doggy in heaven.
For sure!
Most are lol 😂
Oh bull crap, I guarantee she never gave her newborn baby a second thought after abandoning her to die in freezing temperatures. Horrible and heartless.
I know, right? Like all she had to do was drop the baby off in front of the neighbors house, ring the doorbell, and run away, and the baby probably would have been ok. Better yet actually give the baby up for adoption like a rational human.
She has multiple other kids
@@advena996
This is true. Babies have been dropped off in front of fire stations, churches, etc for generations now.
@@advena996yes. She could have called 911 too and said she gave birth and needed help and then say she couldnt handle parenting and do the adoption or at least drop off like he said she was not unaware it happened
@@roems6396Indiana actually has a program (or was proposed) where at fire stations if you don't want your baby they have basically a drop box. It's temperature controlled and will alert staff that a baby has been placed there.
Well said Dr. Grande.
Also: “Bless the Beasts and the Children, for in this world, they have no voice. They have no choice.”
Exactly.😔🙏❤️❤️
Paca was more human than human. Mother was the beast 😢
thank you for thanking the husky - he truely did show more compassion then many humans
Dogs don't show compassion. It's all instinct.
Thank you for giving that poor be baby a voice 🥺
Thank you for acknowledging the actions of Paca and telling us what became of her. I agreed with every word you said. You spoke so well, thank you.
It’s absolutely amazing the way dogs instantly want to protect and rescue. Truly angels sent to assist us on our journey!!!
I’m sorry you were dealt such a horrific hand Baby Jane l, may you RIP 😔
I also had a baby girl in 1985. This is a horrific crime. That child would be 39 years old now, just like my daughter.
Unless her name was Kate and she was killed by an illegal that served no time and was never deported.
ME TOO!! And just a few minutes ago, before I even knew about this story, I just called my daughter and said, "Happy 39th Birthday Sweetheart" And then this video appeared in my recommended watch section, and I watched it and cried. And I agree with you, this is indeed a HORRIFIC crime! And I think she should have got more time! RIP sweet baby Jane.
God bless you im sorry for your loss i had my first kid less than 2 years ago and it would ruin me if anything happened to them.
The fact that D.N.A. technology was so limited in 1985 means that she easily could have abandoned the baby safely (e.g. inside any heated public building) without risk of being caught. She did not even have the slightest excuse for her decision to murder.
I speculate that she was either covering up her infidelity to John Daigle, her naive boyfriend of 5 months, future husband, father of her surviving girls, and her current ex-husband or John Daigle knew about her being an unfaithful unwed mother and he did not want to raise her illegitimate baby. Yet, he gladly ran away with her once the news of the baby's death spread.
@@nanettevantriesteharder2469 That doesn’t have anything to do with my point. Regardless of the circumstances, she could have anonymously abandoned the baby safely.
@@icturner23 Her vocalized justification for her murderous actions toward her firstborn daughter was a poor excuse, in my opinion. Your opinion is that "she did not even have the slightest excuse for her decision to murder." I speculated on her and/or her boyfriend's unstated rationale (i.e., 1. an explanation of controlling principles of opinion, belief, practice, or phenomena or 2. an underlying reason or basis). The point is that I largely agree with your assessment, the availability of Safe Haven Laws before, during, and after the expanded development of DNA testing and genetic genealogy for investigation of cold case murders and identification, prosecution, and conviction of murderers notwithstanding.
Nobody wants to discuss the hatred women have the little girls.
Think of that helpless little tiny person crying for a mother. It breaks my heart.
Thank you for pointing out the pure love expressed by dogs. We don’t deserve dogs.
If there is a hell, Leann is going there. The notion that Paka tried harder to take care of baby Jane than her own mother gave me chills.
Vengeance is mine say the Lord.
Jesus bleed and died on that cross for every sinner, and rose again as the receipt. Truth is, we all deserve hell, repent and believe the truth: Galatians 2:20-Jesus Christ "...loved me and gave himself for me." Sure you are a proper judge? Then there is Romans 3: 20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. 21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: ...If you or her she will have faith in the truth you will escape the lake of fire. Self righteousness will not save you.
Dr. Grande - I admire your sweet compassion for this precious baby; and, noting the caring nature of the sensitive Husky. Yes, Ms. Daigle is where she deserves to have been since 1985. Great analysis! 👍💜🌵
This was an excellent closing statement for this episode Dr. Grande. Thank you.
Well said dr Grande. Pacca had more compassion for the baby than the infants own mother. And still there are millions of milons of people who hate dogs!!! 🤬
We live in an era where it is generally assumed that gratifying adults' desires is more important than meeting children's needs. That assumption is wrong, and it is the source of many of our problems.
The hardness of the human heart and mind seems to know no limits. Thank you, Dr. Grande, for your thoughtful and wise comments. They make one think.
The best thing about the advert is you finally get to see the Doc smile... well I think he is smiling.
There is a swedish song I like very much that asks the question if you can bring your dog with you when you go to heaven. I believe you can. And for most of us they are already there waiting ❤
Animals are amazing & more intelligent in so many ways...Beautiful, kind doggy-mama..❤
The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. Mark Twain.
Yet conservative men hate on women who choose to be "childless cat ladies" more than women who do things like this...
The poor baby. You are right Dr., the dog, like most dogs are better than many people.
I have never heard of a mother dog abandoning her pups.
Speak for yourself.
@@sydneyfairbairn3773 yet dogs do sometimes reject their pups.
So sad for the baby. So many people would have been so happy to have raised her.
I had pregnancy denial. When I gave birth and was handed the baby it was very traumatic. I wasn't "there". I got post natal depression and didn't think the baby was mine and couldn't wait for the real mom to come back. Glad I got help.
Horrific. I don't understand how anyone can look at a helpless innocent infant and leave it to die.
how many babies were aborted this year??
@@MsQ275speak to family or friends if you want to talk about this topic. Randomly inserting yourself like this makes you look like loon.
@@MsQ275 Not the same thing, how many miscarriages this year? Still not the same as giving live birth.
@jeraldbottcher1588 It is, in many ways, the same thing - (i) a baby can still feel pain while being aborted, & (ii) a miscarriage, by definition, is an occurrence for which no-one has moral culpability... 😢
@@petermcgoldrick3872 a fetus cannot feel pain until around 25 weeks, at which point almost all abortions occurring are due to medical issues in which the fetus's development is incompatible with life, meaning either the mother will die or the child will.
Justice wasn’t served. It should have been first degree murder. My biological mother was 16 years old, and knew that she didn’t want me, didn’t think she could give me a good life. She gave birth to me on her 16th birthday. I was in foster care for a few months before being adopted by my wonderful parents. How anyone could be pregnant to term than give birth and leave their baby on gravel in winter is beyond comprehension
I was born the day before my adopted mom's birthday.
@@soozig1909 This is easy! A fetus isn’t a person, so it’s not first degree murder; but even if I grant that a fetus is a person, does a person have the right to use your body to stay alive? If no, then why should a fetus get special rights that a person shouldn’t even have?
@@michaelperez9966 and its also a RIGHT to chose if you want or not to continue the pregnancy
@@soozig1909 she should have given to adoption if she didnt wanted the baby theres a whole lot of help out there
@@soozig1909 Why don’t you agree?
She had OPTIONS! Hospitals, Fire stations, hell even a random house with plenty of cars!
Back in the 60's they'd leave the infants at churches; when this child was born - mid-80's they'd drop them anywhere BUT usually in an area that the child would be noticed.
@@cynthiamartin2197 not "anywhere"
Churches
Dunno about the US, but where I live you can even leave a baby at the hospital anonymously. Police will search for the mother if that happens, but that's probably because she could've been acting on an impulse. It's not punishable
@@barbieblue3336 at safe havens
I agree that justice wasn’t served here. This one truly broke my heart. I can’t imagine doing that to anyone, let alone your own newborn baby. 😢😢😢
When you said, she left this baby to die, "in the cold, in the dark..." I broke down in a heave of tears for this child.
Even watching your ads with YOUR pup, makes me smile. Dogs are heros~
To suggest that an infant doesn't suffer is just so sickening.
RIP Paca❤ she died the year I was born. What an amazing pup❤
I denied my pregnancy because of the grim situation i was in at the time. I adopted out my child. It is truly horrifying what she did.
I am curious what her surviving daughters thought about this?
She probably lied to them about what happened
The fact that the dog didn't eat or turn Baby Jane into a chew toy says a lot: very good doggo ❤
That was really moving. I shed a tear.
Thank you for calling her what she is, Dr Grande. Even if it was a passive way of going about it. You and I both know this woman is despicable.
The couple that wanted a child, and then their dog brings them a dead baby, is going to stick with me for the rest of my life. 😔 God bless them.
Thank you for telling baby Jane's story. And, as usual, you are 100% correct in your thoughts and analysis.
Simply the connection that the dog was doing what she could to help... Seriously had to pause, cry that out if my system before finishing the video... Just the image that the dog had more heart... Very, very sad...
What is wrong with people. Exactly. In 1985 I was 23 yrs old, so going back to this time is easy for me to imagine. This woman is evil, she got off too easy. The fact that she was blessed with two more daughters is sickening when she tossed her firstborn out like nothing more than a McDonalds wrapper on the roadside.
This case is really making me reflect. I had a roommate who chose to abort a baby she conceived at age 20 (in the 1980s). Months later she said to me, "Doesn't even seem real that I was pregnant. It's like it never happened." She was able to push it to the back of her mind and ignore it. Like it never happened.
I'm guessing Lee Ann did the same sort of convenient mental gymnastics.
My friend wasn't very bright. I'm guessing Lee Ann isn't the sharpest tool in the box either.
My friend... she graduated college, married the father of her aborted child and went on to have two more children with him. I often wonder if her first child ever crosses her mind. I doubt it. What need was there to kill her first child? I'll never understand it. I guess it was just inconvenient. 😢
@@edelweiss2.076 Lee Ann should not have been able to have more children.
@@edelweiss2.076 Stevie Nicks did that in the 70's. Just an inconvenience for her touring with Fleetwood Mac.
@@edelweiss2.076 sounds like she didn't have the time or money to raise a child so she aborted the fetus, that's the smart thing to do, why bring a kid into the world where you cannot provide for them properly, nice to know she has a wonderful family now
@@Ssbad24not a Big Mac, then.
Only a dog lover could recognize and give such credits to an amazing dog like in this story 💕
Knowing the couple who found baby Jane were desperate to be parents makes this that much heartbreaking. 😢 She couldn't be bothered to wrap the baby and leave her on their doorstep? 10 extra minutes was too much for that selfish woman. It was selfishness and nothing more. Protecting an infant is the most basic of human instinct.
This exact same thing broke my heart to pieces. Imagine if that dog had brought a baby to his family. But maybe it just wasn’t meant to be. Maybe that was just meant to be an angel… hope she didn’t suffer much in her short life.
Just imagine an innocent, vulnerable baby, shell shocked being birthed into a world, seeing light for the first time, breathing for the first time, hungry and needing care and love immediately. Instead, leaving a safe warm area, the only existence you’ve ever known, and left to cry, freeze and die on a hard, cold rocky ground. How could ANYONE listen to their own baby crying out for them and just drive off in the freezing cold? It takes the most inhuman, insidious, evil person.
Thank you for bringing light to baby Jane’s story. Leanne got off easy. So disturbing, so cruel.
I think my sister had this… she would lie to us the entire time she was pregnant and would lie and say she wasn’t. She was a grown adult at the time too… lived on her own and all,.. it was the oddest thing
“No idea she had given birth”??? Are you kidding me?
Right? It's normal when you pull over to pee to bleed profusely and poop. Ridiculous. RIP
@@Cherokee913 What type of "casual" sex does she have?
She Peeeeeeed it out!! 😕
@@HollieMoodiemust have been out cold!! 🥶
I absolutely agree with Dr. Grande’s points at the end of the video. Poor baby.
What an Awesome Dog ❤
She did not want the child, so she gave birth and discarded it. She just did not think that anyone would find out about her crime after 37 years.
Where was the father? He did not want the baby too apparently.
@@glassheartsx It was stated it was from a one night stand, he wouldn't of even known.
@kingcosworth2643 he participated in the one night stand, he was being irresponsible. So no chances are he didn't give af. He knows the consequences. It's just that no one holds men responsible for their own actions.
In a better timeline somewhere out there, Paca the Huskey found the baby still alive and brought her/him back to the couple and they adopted her/him.
Such a beautiful thought 🥹
I mean it is a her is it not?
Dr. Grande’s ending notes about Paca were impactful. Haunting and deep.
Im-Paca-tful
The fact that justice can be achieved decades later makes me hopeful more cold cases will as yet be solved.
Your thoughts on this case indicate that you have a profound understanding of the cruelty in the world... As well as the reason to continue living in it. Because there is still goodness, as found in Haka the dog
Paca puts our culture to utter shame. R.I.P. baby girl. 🙏🏽😔
That's stupid. Dogs eat their own feces.
Our culture also created Paca so let's not forget that
Baby Jane would be two weeks older than me. This is making me feel some comped emotions, thinking about everyone I’ve known my age that has a family. Jane would probably have one too.
Imagine how the child could have been rescued, saved, raised, flourished. Think of those words
THAT Sir, was unbelievably beautiful - Thank You !
This was one of the most powerful and beautiful videos you've uploaded, and you've uploaded a lot of videos! Thank you.
Please don't let other TH-camrs get you down. You are great at this TH-cam thing ❤. Even if I disagree with your opinion sometimes, you have the right to have one.
Absolutely correct. Profound and powerful statements, Dr. Grande.
That poor little baby. What a hideous woman. Justice was not served.
I agree with you!
It's horrible
Bless you Paca 🙏
That sentence is a disgrace. That dog was more human.
Very thoughtful post. Tragic end to a child who was healthy and eager to begin her life. Her mother is a monster. Justice was not served.
18 inches and 6 pounds. When i heard that all i can think of is how warm my last baby girl's skin felt on my cheeck after she was born. How soft the skin on her little legs and arms were. I can not imagine. The idea that this sweet warm little bundle would be left to die and be found half frozen. It turns the stomach. Even the dog knew better than the baby's own mother. I was 15 when i conceived my first. I turned 16 four months before she was born. Immaturity is no excuse. I will never understand what is going on in the brain of people that can be so careless with the life of another. I really honestly just can not imagine it.
The closure argument regarding Pakka is astounding! Thank you Dr Grande!
I don't often cry at your videos. This broke my heart. This monster deserves LWOP. She murdered her baby in the most callous, unfeeling, and horrific way. I was a teenager in 1985, and there was plenty of access to birth control. There's no excuse for this pathetic apology for a human being. NONE.
I can see that this case moved you deeply. You are a decent man.
Thank you so much for your analysis on this case, Dr. Grande. I agree with your commentary on this murderer.
The cruel irony is the family whose dog found baby Jane would have love to have had a child. I think that Packa did know Baby Jane needed to be loved. I would not be shocked if the childless family thought and prayed for baby Jane.
Thank you Dr Grande for the kind words about Paca the Dog… truer words haven’t be spoken…
Thanks!
Thank you again Dr. Grande 🙏
RIP Baby Jane and doggy Paca 🕊️
This is a heartbreaking story, especially when you spoke about the dog, Paco, and the couple who never had any children, but would have loved to have a baby. Leanne did NOT think about that night every single day of her life. What a lie!! She never looked back. She said so herself, she never thought about returning and saving the baby. Leaving a baby with no chance is awful, when there are churches , hospitals, and other buildings that she could have left the baby, with a 100% chance of being found within minutes!!
Excellent analysis! Our society must value life, all life!
AMEN
I live 10 miles from there. I remember when it happened. You nailed it again Dr. Grande!! At 21 she was totally capable. There were resources here. She could have left that baby on anyone’s porch around here at that time and she would have grown up well. She deserves the time she gets. You’re right about her not really caring. She proved that. You are so smart. Poor little baby. 💕
Appreciate your input about resources in the area because most people probably don't realize how remote it is northern Maine. I had wondered what services she had access to.
Our son was born January 1986 - this is sickening!! I’m a month older than this momster. She knew exactly what she was doing! Poor baby 😢
It’s so true the Paka had so much more compassion for baby Jane than her evil mother. Truly horrific and preventable if this woman had a conscience.
Thank you Dr, on your thoughts of delayed capture and sentencing. I have thought about this a lot as it seems harsh to sentence “an old man, or lady, to a crime they committed years ago…”
But the truth still remains that they did so the crime and they got
To escape and live their life, so yes, they should still be judged appropriately.
Thanks for letting me wrestle with my feelings on this topic!!!
Have a great day everybody!!!!
❤ from Australia 🇦🇺
Humanity should be ashamed of ourselves that an animal had more compassion than a human mother. What an absolute disgrace to our species. Justice was NOT served. 16 years for abandoning a newborn infant in freezing weather to die alone? That woman is beyond dangerous. She should never be free again.
RIP precious baby girl & sweet Paca 💜😭🕊️🕊️
That's wild about the dog, that means that there's a chance that the baby was able to take a breath on her own and there was a chance she could have been saved by the couple.
Dr Grande I love the after-thought commentary. Please keep it up!