New Bosch Router Table | Model RA1181 - Unboxing & Setup
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- New tool! With the new Bosch 1617EVSPK in the shop, a router table was a must have to increase the versatility of the router. I purchased this table at the same time as the router with the plan to install the fixed base into the router table.
Setting up the table was easy and the Bosch instruction were very clear all the way through the process. In general, the process is as follows:
1. Mount the table top to the sides
2. Mount the front panel with the power switch
3. Install and level the router mounting plate
4. Assemble the fence
5. **Install router the router mounting plate (If you have a router)
6. Secure the router mounting plate to the table top
7. Install the fence
8. Enjoy!
I’ve already been using the heck out of this router table and the Bosch quality was impeccable! Easy to set up, easy to use, very sturdy and rigid for being plastic aside from the fence and table top. I’m impressed.
If you have any questions about the setup, feel free to leave them in the comments section down below.
Thanks as always and be safe,
Josh
Northwest Craftsman
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Router Kit, Bosch 1617EVSPK: amzn.to/2HE72Kk
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Fantastic video. You've sold me on this unit and I will be reverting back to this video to make sure I'm setting it up properly along with the manual.
Thanks Frank! I appreciate the kind words and am glad this video was helpful for you! If you come across anything during setup hay wasn’t answered, feel free to drop it here!
Very precise instruction. No rambling nonsense. Great job! Subscribed.
I just got mine 2 days ago. Found your video and I'm so glad I did. I'm always intimidated by tools that need to be carefully and have in depth assembly. I'm always afraid I'll get something wrong. Your video has eased my tension on getting this right! Loved it and Thank You!!!
I’m so glad you appreciated it! Hope yours serves you as well as mine has me!
Hey, it’s been 2 years since you got it. How do you like it?
Really helpful. I've read mixed reviews about this table, but this reassures me. I reside in S. Africa so I'll need to import it from the US or Europe. A big investment, so it needs to be good. Thanks for your time making this.
I’m glad you appreciated it!
Happy woodworking!
Just watched the video. Getting mine in the mail tomorrow! Appreciate the tips!
Glad you enjoyed it! And awesome!! I love mine and use it all the time.
Great video. I just bought the same table and router from a fellow woodworker for $225. They were brand new in the box. The table top will fit perfectly in my Ridgid table saw extension. I am happy to hear that you said it comes with shims to joint. Hopefully I can get it set up tomorrow.
Awesome! That’s a steal of a deal! Happy building, I’ve loved having mine around.
I’m thinking of getting this router table and same router you have. You still like the router table? Is it level?
@@stevesiefken6432 I do like it. I have never had any issues with the table or router. 👍🏼
I appreciated your video, but I appreciated all of the respectful replies you've made to others in the comment section even more. Thanks for being a decent human being. Subscribed.
Thank you! I really appreciate your compliment. Glad to have you as a part of the community!
Josh
Northwest Craftsman
I have one of these tables and my top was warped, as someone else has mentioned in the comments. I contacted Bosch and they sent out a new top, so kudos to them for the customer service. Unfortunately, it was also warped. I took a couple hours and was able to flatten it a bit by knocking down the high spots (with elbow grease and some sand paper on a slab of flat granite). It helped a considerably, but there are still low points and the top still isn't flat enough to support workpieces for something like nicely fitting rails and stiles. I've continued to use it for less precise work, but plan on getting a new table top, plate and fence when I finally tackle the upcoming kitchen project.
Interesting! I’m sorry to hear about your experience with the table tops. It’s possible I’m just not nearly as attuned to minor differences that some of the users (yourself included) are seeing. Glad Bosch at least tried to remedy the situation. Thanks for the comment!
I purchased the same table from Lowe's about 2 years (had to special order it) ago and it is still going strong (just used it today). Great video!
Sweet! Glad to hear it’s still going strong!
@@NorthwestCraftsman how much this router ?
@@johnyabut5887 both the router and table can be found on Amazon at the following links 😊 prices will vary depending on when you check.
Router Kit, Bosch 1617EVSPK: amzn.to/2HE72Kk
Router Table, Bosch RA1181: amzn.to/37OY0W6
How easy is it to square the fence to the bit? I have an older Ryobi router table and it is a massive pain to properly align the fence.
@@smatttpersonally I think any squaring is a pain in the rear but it’s less complicated than others. Just take your time and don’t get too frustrated. All-in-all not too bad.
Bought this table immediately after the video from your link. Thank you for a great demo.
Thanks! I appreciate your support of the channel and hope you enjoy yours as much as I have mine!
@@NorthwestCraftsman Lowe’s and or Bosch needs to be sending you some goodies for making them some money!!
@@TheAyotteMan I do make a small affiliate percentage from Amazon purchases for anything linked through there but I would not argue with your proposal!
I admire your delivery, your short concise voice over is very easy to follow. You are an good teacher. You held my interest even though I knew what subject matter was up next. Thanks for your evaluation!
Thanks Leroy! I appreciate your kind words!
Great video man keep em coming. Maybe you could bring us along on some projects. Also thanks for posting the model numbers for the Bosch parts used. Going to pick up a combo myself.
Thanks for your kind words! And projects are on the way! Have you seen the bed frame video yet?
Researching router tables, I came across this video. Glad I did. After looking at some of your other content, you have a new subscriber.
Thanks Wade! I'm glad you found it useful and glad to have your around!
Josh
Northwest Craftsman
This is the second video of yours I’ve stumbled upon in my pursuit of picking up wood working as a hobby. I just picked this model up and researched it on TH-cam and your video helped a lot. Decided to subscribe as I like your format and approach and look forward to seeing your other videos.
Sean, thank you very much for your kind words! I’m glad you find the videos useful and am glad to have you as a part of the community! Look forward to seeing you around.
You do have to spend some time setting the saw up... blade, fence, etc. But once done, the saw is great. Fairly compact which is Nice th-cam.com/users/postUgkxXh-4_3-ZT1fFWP91ZV7iVqzElr0lEb-a I did get an Incra Miter Gauge which takes some setup as well. The stock miter gauge can be adjusted in the miter slot with a little painter's tape... this tightens up the side to side play a lot.
Totally agree! Bosch did a really great job with this.
Thank you for this video. I am currently looking for a table on a budget this video has made up my mind
Glad you found it useful!
Waiting for my table to come in a couple of days after finding out my Bosch does not fit my old table. Have to say that I enjoyed the video, clear, concise and easy to follow. Have bookmarked it for when the table comes in. Not only did you have great views as you assembled the table, but the speed you did it in along with your oral tutorial was smooth and easy to follow. Thank you sir, I will be checking out your other videos as well. Joey
Thanks! I’m so glad you found it helpful! Good luck with your set up and enjoy your new table!
Good video. Was about to build a new table, but I think you changed my mind.
I’m glad you appreciated it! Here’s a quick link to the table and router if you need it.
Router Kit, Bosch 1617EVSPK: amzn.to/2HE72Kk
Router Table, Bosch RA1181: amzn.to/37OY0W6
Me too. I think I'll just buy this router table. I'm new to woodworking and I think this will help a newbie hit the ground running a lot faster.
@@NorthwestCraftsman That’s one of my routers and my favorite by far. Have the fixed base in my old table and use the plunge base for everything else.
Just got my 1181 from Amazon and assembled tonight, can’t wait to use it! I also ordered the dust collection adapter for the 1617 router that you demo’d from Etsy. That looks like it will prevent any dust from getting out, though I do think it will be a bit of a hassle to change bits. It would be worth it to keep the dust to a minimum.
Awesome! 😄 I’m excited for you to get to use it! I was thinking the same thing about the bits but another viewer commented about Bosch’s “Offset Wrenches” and sure enough, they have some. They allow you to change the bit from above the table much more easily. Here’s a link! I’ll probably be getting a pair myself.
Offset Wrenches.
amzn.to/34zl0Jm
@@NorthwestCraftsman sweet! Ordering them now! Thanks again
Excellent video. Very concise and easy to understand. I am in the process of deciding which router table to buy. Your video has not only convinced me to get this one, but has eased my fears about set up and leveling. Thank you for posting this. It was extremely helpful.
So glad you found it helpful! This router table has been great for me and is a perfect starter, especially if you don’t want to build one.
Very happy i watched this. Thanks!
Glad you found it helpful!
Thanks for the detailed video it will help a lot of folks
Glad you think so!
great video thanks for sharing, i bought one on marketplace that someone partially put together got frustrated and sold it for like 100 bucks he had the leveling screws attached to the plate, and a few other things were not correct, i just received the Bosch 1617 for Fathers Day , thanks for sharing
Hey! Sorry for the late reply, glad you got it worked out! And yea, that’s no good when you used equipment like that.
Excellent video.
Thanks for the info. Nice video
I had the Craftsman version of both the table and router. The router I loved but the Craftsman version of the table fence wasn’t so good because I couldn’t align the fence at the opening and work pieces would hit the out feed fence and get caught. I purchased the Bosch router today and will be purchasing this table next!! Thanks for the review!!
Oh man! That would be a huge pain! Glad you found the video helpful and hope you find the combo as useful as I have!
just what I was looking for....
good explanation. Thanks for the hints. have now subscribed to your channel.
Thanks Stan! Glad to have you as a part of the community!
Good clean video.
thank you, excellent tutorial.
Glad you liked it!
Good video ! Just bought the table and hoping to buy the same router for the exact set up you have !
Anderson Jimmy exciting! 😄 I’m sure you’ll love them just like I do !
Great video; thank you!
So glad you enjoyed it!
Thank's from us lady's out there your video was very informative 👌
Glad I could help! 😊
Happy Woodworking!
Josh
Northwest Craftsman
Followed your Amazon link and purchased. Thank you so much for the video. subbed and liked
Thank Frank! I appreciate your support and compliment!
Looks like this is the table I’m getting. Bought a Kreg thinking it’d be a little better, but I’m missing several fasteners. Should have just went with the Bosch to begin with.
Shoot! I’m sorry to hear that! Hopefully you’re able to get up and running quickly
My table is coming next Wednesday (12/13/23. Can't wait to use my new toy with my new router. Great video.
Awesome! I’m excited for you to get to crack it open! I’ve loved mine.
Great video. Thanks.
Of course! Glad you found it useful!
Great Video - Thanks!
Glad you liked it!
I bought virtually the same table 20 years ago made by an Australian Company called Global Machine Company. Came with its own router. I got it REALLY Cheap from Lowe’s. I just had to assemble it. I remember the Manager at Lowe’s was VERY eager to get rid of it.
Fascinating! Has it held up over those years?
@@NorthwestCraftsman Yes sir it has! It doesn’t get heavy use as I also have a Router in my ancient Delta Rockwell table saw extension.
It’s fascinating this design has endured. Mine also has legs so it stands alone. I’m really sure I’ve seen this same design under other names as well.
I also bought a cheap Drill Press from that company as well. Still hanging in there. It even has a laser!……..Cheers
Your review sold me. I have the Bosch dual level miter saw so I expect this sort of complexity (that German engineering), but what surprised me is the dust collection (the dust collection on their miter saw is....cute lol)
Bosch really nailed it with this one. I’m glad I’m not the only one that appreciates it.
Have fun with it!
Wow I'm buying!!!
Love mine! Hope you love yours too!
Good for you for being able to slide the router in so easily. I CANNOT do it. Ended up buying a second router just so I wouldn't spend 30 minutes of my life trying to get the thing to slide into the housing.
Shoot! I’m sorry to hear that. At the risk of asking a really dumb question, are the arrows lined up when you’re trying to slide it in? It’s also possible yours has more interference which causes it to bind up.
@@NorthwestCraftsman I appreciate it. If you Google it, you'll see lots of people have the same issue. Something about the type of metal- sm ooth to slide into the housing, but it's it gouges easily and skews the geometry just enough
Interesting! That’s good to know. Seems like Bosch could put some polycarbonate glides in there to ease on the mental on metal interface.
Glad you were able to find a solution, even though it was quite expensive.
Bosch should be paying you as an instructor on how to use their tools. Great vid.
Haha, much appreciated! Glad you found it useful!
Great video
Thanks! Glad you liked it!
Thanks and excellent.
you did a good job.
Thanks Daniel!
Thank you.
Thanks for sharing
Hey bro! Nice video!! I like it bro good job
Thanks! I'm glad you appreciated it!
Hi! Thank you for sharing your video, it was very informative. I am considering making my own T&G flooring to cut cost. I am presently shopping around for the best option. I know it will be time consuming to make my floors but I don't mind that. What I want to know is , do you think this table and router can handle 2000 s.f. of flooring?
Thanks! I appreciate the compliment and am glad you found it useful. Sounds like a fun project! I think the table and router can definitely handle this. What I would be careful of is your speeds, feeds, and bit sharpness. Heat is your enemy and the faster and more aggressively you cut, the more your bit will dull which only makes it worse. I recommend you get a nice freud tongue and groove bit set and evaluate sharpening it throughout the project (usually have to send carbide out).
Freud Tonge and Groove Set
amzn.to/3oKDFqr
Thank you for doing this video. I'm looking at getting a router table for building a computer desk and this video eased some of my concerns on putting it together and using it.
Glad to hear it! It’s a great table and it plus the router are a total work horse. Send some photos of your desk when it’s done!
I need to get more of that on off action
Thanks excellent video helped me decide to order one. It will be here this week. Don't think I could build one for much less than the selling price $199.00 shipped on Amazon
Congrats! Very exciting to have both of those on the way! I also couldn’t agree more about the price for a table. Given where I am in my woodworking career, I probably couldn’t make a table of this quality for that price.
Just put put.it together this morning. The instructions in the manual are very very good, just like you said. Your video really helped with cutting down the time it took to put it together took less than thirty minutes thanks to your video. I am now a subscriber to your channel.
@@rcboals welcome! We’re glad to have you as a part of the community! I’m also glad that this video helped you put your new table together. Hopefully you get a ton of good use out of it and can make some awesome projects!
Just got mine from amazon today. Great instructions...easy assembly!
@@kurtn8057 great!! Glad to hear it! Hope it serves you as well as mine has served me! 😄
Great video. I think this helped me decide on this table. Would love to see how you feel about it 2 years later?
Glad to hear it! I still love it and use it often! Only complaint is I wish it was bigger but for a first table, it’s perfect 👍
Thank You.
What’s the clearance below it . And can you use a larger router.. I.E porter cable 3.1/4 plunge and is the table set up for micro adjustment with a plunge . Thx any info will save me time much appreciated.
- Clearance is about 9” from bench top to the top of that window underneath.
- Not sure about the size of router, really depends on how big it is. I would imagine if Bosch has the router plate pattern for your router, it’ll work. No guarantees though.
- It is set up for micro adjustments from the table top and honestly that is one of my favorite features.
I picked up the cabinet style one bosch has. I like it it's heavy. And worked out really good on my flip top table with my plainer. But the insert is so rough. But all in all. I'm happy with it it work and thanks what I wanted. Functional. 😁great video dude. Keep it up
Thanks Michael! I appreciate the positive feedback! Glad to hear you're enjoying your table as well! This one is an absolute work horse. Bosch has done a great job!
Such an improvement on the 1171 I have
Awesome! For a user that hasn’t used the 1171, what are the biggest improvements?
Hi NWC!
Thanks for the video. Very informative!
Some questions regarding the height adjustment feature of the fixed base when mounted to the router table:
1- Is it a good replacement of a router lift?
2- Is it accurate?
3- Is it easy to use?
Thanks for sharing.
Saludos from Mexico City.
¡Buenos dias mi amigo! Gracias por la pregunta.
Excellent questions. I would say it’s a great replacement for a router lift, it’s extremely accurate (I can easily move it within a few thousandths of an inch), and it’s very easy to use. Just make sure to undo the friction lock on your base before adjusting.
Tenga un buen dia!
Josh
Northwest Craftsman
@@NorthwestCraftsman muchas gracias por tu rápida respuesta Josh!
Buen fin de semana!
I've got the same one coming in this Monday 9 -28. I'm 2nd guessing with all the negative comments about bits getting stuck , unlevel surface etc. I've got the 2 1/2 hp Harbor Freight one. Its about a week old, still hasn't been used yet.. Nitpicking about which bits to buy. Looking at the 70 Bit Professional C3 Carbide Router Bit Set - 1/2" Shank - Yonico 17702..
ccdirectt vdllc I saw a bunch of the negative comments as well but haven’t had any issues with mine. Perhaps it’s a batch inconsistency issue?
The bits honestly make a huge difference. I got a cheap set off amazon which gives me a variety and then a nice Freud bit (3/8” up spiral bit) and I love it.
High Five Thanks !!!
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Glad you found it helpful!
FYI. Bosch makes recessed wrenches! It made my life much easier!
Kiran Bhat Woodworking I didn’t know that! Thanks for sharing!
@@NorthwestCraftsman Yes! RA1152 is the part number. Changing bits is much easier and with the top depth control, it removes the need to buy a router lift!
I've got the Bosch portable router table, not nearly as solid as the aluminum top model. I picked up my recessed wrenches at Amazon because it is a hassle to change bits otherwise, a necessity.
Nice set up, where did you get the router itself and what was the model number for the table and router ? thanks.
Thanks! I got both the table and router from Amazon. The links below have the model numbers and should get you there.
Router Kit, Bosch 1617EVSPK: amzn.to/2HE72Kk
Router Table, Bosch RA1181: amzn.to/37OY0W6
Great video - much better than wading into the swarmy world of self-make. Looks like a good option compared to the endless $500+ offerings for a full table and confusing table top options. What are you using for dust vacuum?
Thanks! I’m using my Rigid shop vac with a dust deputy in between. Below are the links to the hardware I use, and a video on my dust collection.
Blue Barrel: amzn.to/2HDpGlI
Dust Deputy: amzn.to/3jBu6H0
Hose, 2.5”: amzn.to/37MqhMN
Hose, 2.5” Adapters: amzn.to/2HJGO9z
Video on my dust collector
th-cam.com/video/cJjJjcs99E4/w-d-xo.html
Do they provide base-plate measurements? I have an older Makita 3612BR router that I'd like to put in one of these but it's not on their posted list of supported routers. The 3612BR appears to have 4 holes 85mm apart in a square pattern. Would there be room to drill (it's aluminum, correct?) additional holes in the base ?
They do! Below is a link to the PDF of the manual. Page 14-15 is what you’re looking for but it doesn’t look like your Makita model is included by default. And there should be room to drill if needed, yes, it’s aluminum 👍
Link to Manual
pdf.lowes.com/operatingguides/000346353679_oper.pdf
Awesome video. How can I remove a quarter on an inch wood out of a 5 by 3 inch piece of wood ? I appreciate your time. Thank you very much.
Thanks for the comment! Are you trying to remove it across the entire surface? Or just a specific area?
@@NorthwestCraftsman I like to remove it across the entire area in a commercial set up. Thank you for taking the time to respond
No problem! A planer is the tool I’d use but 3x5 is too short for most if not all planers which means you’ll either need to double sticky it down, or plane it before cutting them to 3x5 (this is the route I’d go).
Very nice video. One question I have is when you purchase this it does not come with a router, correct? Just the table is sold separately and you will need to buy the fixed router separately.
Thanks! You are correct! The table and the router are sold separately. You can find them linked below if you're interested.
Router Kit, Bosch 1617EVSPK: amzn.to/2HE72Kk
Router Table, Bosch RA1181: amzn.to/37OY0W6
I would ask what Northwest Craftsman thinks about the use of the Bosch Above-Table Hex Key RA1165 with this table? Is it helpful? Is it worth it to purchase with the table? I appreciate the great video. Thank you for the excellent assembly review!
Glad you found it helpful Brian! I’m not sure of the product code you listed but the hex key that comes with this table, RA1181, is incredible. Easy to use and very precise. Just make sure to undo the friction lock on your spindle before adjusting.
Very nice. Thanks for help with assembly. The confusing part is all the screws. All these terms: truss head, pan head, #10 by xxx. Why didn't they just color code the 400 screws that are included? Then they would say, put the phillips head (ORANGE) screws (4) into points, etc.
Part of your video that really helped was when putting on router plate (aluminum) at point 4:29. One doesn't actually put the 8 screws THROUGH the holes but only uses them for leveling. I know that was said in the instructions but because I didn't have 8 screws anymore (2 were put in wrong location on dust port) it was very confusing. Your video is very helpful, though so I took out the 2 from dust port and now had 8 for top plate.
What about that round, clear plastic piece - is that supposed to attach to prevent chips from flying up? No mention in manual or in your video? It's about 3 inches in diameter and has a place for a screw at one end.
Thanks for the compliment! I agree color coding would be a good idea on their part.
In the screw bag is a small post like screw with a flat head top. Put that inside the post of that clear piece and screw it into the router plate at about the 2o’clock position. It’s intended as a shield for routing without the fence.
On a side note, I see your user name, are you from Colorado?
Did Bosch quit putting the elevation adjustment on these? They used to come with an Allen wrench with a T handle to run the router up and down.
Nope! It’s still there. It comes with the wrench but you’ll still need a router mount that has the bottom side adjustment. The fixed base in the Bosch 1617 EVSPK kit has that.
Would love to get one but down under we use 240 volts and I can't see any that can run on that voltage. Strangely Bosch only seem to have made this for the USA market. Can't use a step down transformer either as the vac system and router are all 240 volts. Was the tabletop dead flat?
Shoot! I hadn’t even thought about that but think you’re right because most of Europe is at the same voltage as you. If you find a solution, comment back because I bet you’re not the only one.
And dead flat is a little of a trick question. I believe I remember measuring it to within 1/64” or 1/128” of “flatness” by my 36” level and any gap present. But at that point I start to question my level as I haven’t had it checked or certified, just assumed. For me, there wasn’t any obvious twisting, bowing, or cupping of the table which is flat enough for my work. If you need a truly, sub thou flatness, I’d recommend making one with melamine or the like because you can get some wicked flat and slick surfaces that way.
great vids. question... early in the vid. you stated ra1181 is and upgrade from the ra1171. do you know the difference? I seen online a package deal for the router and table. (1617evs and the ra1171) looking to pick it up but just wanted to see the difference in the table
thx!
Hey Michael! Thanks for the question. Honestly there aren’t a ton of differences and I think a lot of it would come down to preference. I like the aluminum top for the 1181 and the more open design which allows for easier cleaning. That being said, I haven’t used the 1171 so I can’t speak from direct experience. Below is an article I found which goes through some of the differences, though, it is a little circuitous in its style.
www.ronaldphillipsantiques.com/bosch-ra1171-vs-ra1181/
@@NorthwestCraftsman thx keep up the good work/videos!!
Now I want to unbox mine
Do it! 😄
Did you figure out the shims? I’ve watched 3 videos now and no one mentions or follows through with them.
Tracie, thanks for the question! I haven't found a video on this router in particular but Fine Woodworking had an excellent video for how to use a router as a jointer in general.
What would be different with our table is the 1/16" shims would go on the trailing side of the fence and set equal with the apex of the bit. This leaves the leading edge slightly offset, like in the video. I'll see if I can put together a video on using this specific table and shims as a jointer. Stay tuned!
Fine Woodworking's Video
th-cam.com/video/SAPvg48SvVY/w-d-xo.html
You put the shim behind the left side fence and it allows you to use the router table as a jointer.
Does this table have a router bit height adjustment feature?
Sure does! When used in tandem with the 1617 EVSPK fixed base, there is a pass through with an Allen key for depth control
@@NorthwestCraftsman excellent! That’s what I figured. Thanks for letting me know. Looking forward to getting mine in a few days.
Excited for you to get it! I love mine.
I wonder if I’m older Dewalt DW610 will fit in this table
Doesn’t look like the 610 is compatible but double check page 15 of the manual below.
pdf.lowes.com/productdocuments/33317c1b-1aec-45b5-9eae-46caa8e591db/08063444.pdf
Will the Bosch table accommodate a router lift from kreg or woodpecker
Great question! I’m not sure. Here’s a link to the manual, page 15 has compatible routers with the base plate and I think it has dimensions as well.
pdf.lowes.com/productdocuments/33317c1b-1aec-45b5-9eae-46caa8e591db/08063444.pdf
how is this router table compared to a gts10xc with a dado stack? great video man!
Great question and thanks! I don’t have that setup but if you’re only looking to cut dado’s a table saw is probably the way to go. This is more useful if you have other profiles you’d like to use like rounds, changers, etc.
I was looking for a table for my new Bosch GMF1600CE, and really liked it by your video, but wondering if I would be able to install my router on it, I can't find any information about if this table is compatible with my router. Does anyone have any idea about this?
Thanks! I’m glad you enjoyed it. Below is a link to the manual, page 15 has the list of compatible routers. I don’t see yours right off the top, but I may have been looking wrong.
Bosch RA1181 Manual
pdf.lowes.com/productdocuments/33317c1b-1aec-45b5-9eae-46caa8e591db/08063444.pdf
HELP!
I have the router GOF1600CE and I was wondering if I can use it with this table (my router is the plunge version) thank you in advance
Hey there! I’ve included a link to the manual which states all the compatible routers on page 15. I’m not seeing your model but double check me.
Most plunge routers won’t fit under the table but there may be adapter plates out there that will allow it. Worst case scenario, you can make your own.
RA1181 Manual
pdf.lowes.com/productdocuments/33317c1b-1aec-45b5-9eae-46caa8e591db/08063444.pdf
Liked and subscribed.
Welcome and thank you! Glad to have you as a part of the community!
Can you adjust the height of the bit from the top of the table?
Sure can! If you’re using the Bosch 1617 EVSPK fixed base, it’s in the front left.
I owned this Bosch table. I have one minor complaint and two major complaints about it. The minor complaint is that the cast and machined table surface isn't flat. It was warped, not severely but enough to be very annoying to me.
The first major complaint is that the insert is a non-standard size, so you can't use another vendor's router lift.
The second major complaint is with mounting a Bosch fixed base upside down to the insert plate. When you turn Bosch's MRF01 base, for example, upside down, the entire weight of the router motor is suspended by a single E-clip, a spring clip held in a groove on the height adjustment shaft. That clip eventually gave way and left the motor unsuspended for height adjustments. Most fixed router bases use a similar design such that they're great when used right-side-up, but they're unacceptably weak when used upside down. Combine that problem with the inability to use a third-party router lift, and you end up with an annoying and awkward router table.
Robert, thanks for your well thought out response. I can understand why the warped table leaves a sour taste, especially if you want to use your table for anything like jointing, makes it unusable.
I didn’t know that the router plate was a non standard size! Interesting and frustrating if you already have another router. I know it’s designed to work with the 1617EVS and the height adjustment included but I hadn’t thought about height adjustment with other brands. That’s a great point.
With regards to the mounting, are there not fasteners that attach your router to the router plate? The securement method I have and see on the plate is quite secure. I guess this assumes the default Bosch plate is used.
@@NorthwestCraftsman To be clear, other router motors fit into the Bosch router plate. It has several hole patterns so that you can use other motors. However, the plates of third-party router lift manufacturers won't fit into the tabletop.
Regarding the E-clip, I can speak only to the Bosch MRF01, the fixed base associated with the Bosch MRC23EVSK router system. Certainly, the fixed base is well secured to the insert plate. And, the main clamp of the base securely holds the motor in the base when routing. BUT, when the main clamp is loosened for height adjustment, the entire weight of the motor is suspended from the E-clip.
This is getting into the weeds, but you can see an illustration of the E-clip this way: Go to the Bosch website and search for MRF01. Go to the product page that describes the MRF01 and then scroll down under "SUPPORT". Click the "More information" button under "Search for Parts Diagram". Enter "MRF01" (without quotes) in the "Tool Model Number" window and click the Search button. Then click "View Parts Diagram". Item 21 is the height adjustment shaft. Item 23 rides on Item 21 and its tab locks into a groove on the motor; the tab supports the motor when the main clamp is loosed for height adjustment. Item 22 is the E-clip, what the Parts List calls "Retaining snap ring"; THIS supports Items 21 and 23 and, thus, the weight of the motor.
Interesting! I appreciate you taking time to lay that all out, that makes a lot of sense and does seem like a design flaw, or at least a weak point.
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Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
I bought the same set up that you have, bosch RA 1181 table and the 1617EVSPK router. Unfortunately, the lift on the router does not work. When the router is mounted to the router table plate, I am unable to use the adjustment from the top of the of table. Not sure if the router base is broke or intended to be used in that fashion.
brb318 I ran into the same issue. Make sure the friction lock (that buckle) is undone before trying to make any adjustments.
@@NorthwestCraftsman The friction lock or buckle is undone but I'm still unable to get the router to go up or down while installed on the router table using the micro adjustment.
brb318 if you can shoot me an email with a video of what your doing I’ll take a look, I can also send you one of what I do. If it’s not moving, be careful not to try and force it so it doesn’t break. My email is in the profile page (can’t post it in the comments because of bots stealing it for spam)
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There is a retaining ring that rides on part of the lift mechanism and this ring is easily knocked off if you overturn the mechanism from above. Look for part number 70 in this diagram: www.ereplacementparts.com/bosch-1617-0601617161-router-parts-c-128_1119_1626.html
Can you tell me if the router height is adjustable from the top with the supplied base/mounting plate? I have the same router ordered that you show.
It sure is! If you mount the fixed base of the EVSPK to the router plate, there is a hole that aligns with the fine adjustment knob and an included hex key to do the adjustment.
@@NorthwestCraftsmanWow - Thanks so much for the quick response, and great video! :)
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it and found it useful!
Can you use this table with the Makita RT0700CX2J router ?
Doesn’t look like it’s compatible with this particular Makita. Check out page 15 of the manual though to confirm.
RA1181 Manual
pdf.lowes.com/productdocuments/33317c1b-1aec-45b5-9eae-46caa8e591db/08063444.pdf
Hi …Great video…So how is the Bosch router table holding up since you’ve purchased it? Is the fence great?
Thanks! Glad you found it helpful! It’s lasted great! Full disclosure, I am not a full time shop by any means so I haven’t worked it as hard as it could be, but for a weekend hobbyist, it’s been awesome!
@@NorthwestCraftsman Awesome! Thanks for the feed back…Have a great one
Do you know what the key holes are for in the miter slot in this table?
Great question! I think they’re for the feather boards that come with the table. But, I can imagine other attachments being compatible as well.
Woodworking noob and new subscriber with a question: Can this be used to make complete cuts, as in: with the ability to be adjusted to cut through the entire width of the board? (I'm looking for something to use for making tables, bookshelves, etc..) I noticed with your test piece the cut was only partially through the width. Again, obviously a noob question. Great video man! Thanks.
Hey! Welcome to the channel! One of the primary reasons I started the channel was to share the process of learning to woodwork. So, no questions are too simple or off limits.
Though it would be possible to do a through cut with a router, it would be difficult. For cross cuts (perpendicular to the grain), a miter saw, table saw, or bandsaw would be the tools of choice. For rip cuts (parallel with the grain and widest face up) a table saw or bandsaw are the tools of choice. And last, for resaw cuts (parallel to the grain and skinny side up - also not very common) a bandsaw is usually your tool of choice, though sometimes it is possible to use a table saw.
@@NorthwestCraftsman Awesome man! I really appreciate the reply. Good to know the lingo too!
@@TheSokodelic glad I could help! Feel free to ask anything, Merry Christmas!
Lol that wood was already cut LOL 😂
Partially! 😂 good catch though! It was only the first inch or so.
Do you feel the red insert ring is too thin and the final surface is not flush enough?
I’ve gone back and forth. It’s certainly not flush but I don’t generally rely on it to datum my parts, just prevent them from falling in. Bosch certainly left room for improvement.
This is super helpful! Bought a router then quickly realized I needed a table (beginner), and I bought this one. Your video will be my go-to for set up, so thank you.
I was wondering the height of your workbench. I bought a Craftsman early on and - it sure is pretty but - it’s too high for this. I don’t want to make that mistake again.
What do you recommend for the height of the work bench for this, and how much space would you allow on either side, if it’s a stand alone piece?
Thanks in advance! Ashlynn
Hey Ashlynn! I’m glad you found it helpful! And no worries 😂 I’m right there with you. Always learning.
If you are making your own workbench, you can customize it to exactly your height. Generally speaking, the height of your work benches will range somewhere between your waist and rib cage. The lower the workbench, the more you are leaning over it, but the more power you can get as your muscling through things. The taller it is, the less power you get behind it, but the more ergonomic and close to your eyes it is for fine work.
For the router table I have mine at about my belly button. Ideally, you shouldn’t have to muscle anything across the router table, whatever bit you are using should easily cut. I may even opt to have it a little bit higher.
However, when you are building that workbench, make sure to take into account the height of the router table. Seems like a stupid reminder, but I make those kinds of mistakes all the time. 😂
@@NorthwestCraftsman thank you so much for your thorough response. And for the helpful tip at the end! That’s pretty critical, and knowing me, I would’ve spaced it. Thanks for the valuable information in the video and for the feedback.
Of course! Good luck and happy woodworking!
Does this table come with above the table height adjustment?
It does! The table itself doesn’t have a lift but interfaces with the 1617 EVS router frame to access the micro adjust from the table top. Below is a link to the EVS
Bosch 1617 EVS
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Much better than your router review video
I can totally understand that. The router table was far more interactive to put together. As a followup on the router though, I have been very impressed by the combo. It’s held up to a lot of abuse and endless hours of work.
Happy wood working!
Can you use different brand routers with this table ?
Sure can! Below is a link to the manual and page 14ish has a list of compatible routers.
Manual
pdf.lowes.com/operatingguides/000346353679_oper.pdf
@@NorthwestCraftsman thank you
The way he talks about Bosch hints to me that this is a sponsored video for Bosch ..
It isn’t 😊 I have been impressed by their tools though which may be why I sound like a fanboy 😂
I’m thinking about mounting this table to a work bench without the plastics base, thoughts? Does this table have a router lift?
That’s actually a great idea to give you more space to work.
I don’t think it has a true lift, just access for the Bosch fixed base which as a bottom side adjustment.
@@NorthwestCraftsman I have a harbor freight Hercules plunge router that I want to add to a router table with a lift, any ideas? I have seen all of the router lift kits, but I want the slides and French to go with it without building
You could always get a lift kit and mount it to a square piece of Aluminum or ply that fits in the top for this table.
How do you adjust the bit height above the table?
Hey Bryan! Great question! When the router is mounted, it’s upside down in the table. There is a small hole in the skid plate and router plate which allows access for an included hex key to turn the micro adjustment knob. It works great! Easy to adjust within a few thou.
Can i use any model of router on this table?? What model you use??
Just about! The router plate has a ton of configurations to match different models. I use the Bosch 1617 and purchased the EVSPK which comes with both the plunge and fixed base for the router spindle. Honestly it’s my favorite tool in the shop.
Here’s my video on it.
New Bosch 1617 Router | Unboxing EVSPK Fixed & Plunge Combo th-cam.com/video/06Xcl2aPA1c/w-d-xo.html