Did quite some camping touring in the 80's with a Suzuki SJ410 (1000cc!) towing a Venter trailer. I owned larger vehicles at the time but it was quite fun touring in the small Jeep once you're tuned into it.
@@GetOutGO Visited a number of "adventurous" destinations in Northern Natal (KwaZulu-Natal) like Ndumo and Hluhluwe / Umfolozi game reserves, Kosi Bay, Sodwana (could still drive on the beach and outperformed All other vehicles! ), St Lucia, Mapelane. Later on I fitted a heavy duty axle with Suzuki wheels on my Venter trailer - still have it.
@@GetOutGO Every owner of a dome tent will encounter that day when s decision is made that come hell or high water, a better alternative has to be out there, somewhere. The one thing I will add to a teardrop trailer, should I buy one, is a privacy cubicle on the opposite side of the awning so that the trailer can be exited directly into a area suitable for changing in. I suspect I might just sleep better on a proper mattress and in something where the doors can be locked from the inside.
@@GetOutGO I have a suspicion that the Vagabond has (or can have) the same size wheels as the Jimny which might mean that one could potentially fit the same rims and tyres which adds a layer of backup when travelling and also presents better options for tyre rotation with potentially eight tyres available.
@@CasperLabuschagneYes you can. They can match the Jimny PDC on the rim as well. You need to order it like that from the factory though as it needs different axle hubs obviously.
That’s an interesting package lol it must be struggling a little . I am looking at something similar at the moment but I ruled out the Jimny for 2 reasons they are many vehicles better priced and the engine is just to small . Maybe they should have used a diesel
I haven’t used the Edge Out so can’t really say. Its GVM is 1350kg though so you need an EB license to tow it which you don’t for the 750kg Rogue. It comes with a bit more standard but is heavier and about R25k more than the Roque.
How do you think it will handle 4x4 trails? Thanks for the video, I really like these trailers, I think I must make a plan to rent one. I see you mentioned I can rent one from Outdoor campers
My wife and I have taken our Rogue on the Namakwa Eco 4x4 trail and it was great ! I tow with a Hilux but the Jimny would do it easily as the terrain isn’t that tough as long as you stay out of the thick sand on the river bank.
@@WilfredWalker-dq6rp now that’s valuable info. Thank you. This thing might have then just moved up on my list of favourites. Do you have the standard or upgraded suspension? If you don’t mind me asking
The standard 750kg version is not braked, there is a 1400kg GVM braked option (which you need an EB license for). You can actually rent one from Outdoor Campers if you'd like to try it out www.outdoorcampers.co.za/
Currently vehicle TARE only allows for 600kg unbraked and 1200kg braked. As a code B license holder, would be looking for 750KG braked 😅 keen to rent for a weekend. Thanks for the video.
@GetOutGO Nope. It's just scary how expensive they've become. It's truly become a luxury to own, and not like in the old days when most families could afford it. You were even considered "poor" if you went on holiday with a caravan back in the 80's🤭 Now, I guess you're considered "wealthy" if you tow one. Thanks for the interesting video🙏🏻👍🏻
This one doesn’t look like it could handle the really rough tough that you usually tow on, I would be would be worried about the spare wheel cracking the fibreglass shell as it moves too much even on road. Teardrop campers are excellent options, but most are only suitable for on road conditions.
See my experience in a comment below. Depends what you mean by extreme - Namakwa Eco 4x4 trail ? We’ve been there and done it with no problem, not even a puncture
I don’t put pricing on any of my videos. These videos live on TH-cam for a long time so by the time you watch it the price has more than likely changed. Easiest is to check with a dealer (like Outdoor Campers).
@@GetOutGO there is always the option to mention the date of the review in conjunction with the price of the product being reviewed. But hey, it’s your review and you can do as you please. By the way, your videos are all 👍
On the older Gen3 there is a fantastic powerplant upgrade option that blows the Gen4 out of the water. so much so that you outrun a empty gen4 on uphills ect with a loaded trailer such as the vagabond roque. I have one of those, and the same hill Christoff had to gear down to 3rd I stay in 5th gear (1-1 Ratio gear) maybe 4th if I was asleep at the approach of that hill, and still have to keep an eye on my speed to not exceed the national speed limit and to tow safely. Testing quite a number of different towing options I personally think the 2 best towing combinations for the Jimny's (gen3 and gen4) in their standard form is the Moremi XLT and the Skipper Model T. both are quick setup Tent trailer and caravan that you can setup within 5 minutes. And both are Light weight (Maxing out at 500kg)
@@barendbekker4901I’ve seen the liana conversion (1800) in the gen3, think that’s awesome! Like I said though, a little turbo diesel in the Jimny would be amazing 👌
@@GetOutGO You are absolutely correct. the 1800 when properly configured packs a nice punch (how the jimny should have been from the floor).. But the Turbo Diesel idea has flown around the community for years .Suzuki actually did release a gen3 diesel for a specific market with the 1.5dci that you find in the duster, np200 and others. Doing such a conversion would not be a issue, if we could get the correct gear ratio's configured (Obviously it will cost a arm and a leg to do that conversion, but some of us are just a little but nuts for these little 4x4's)
If they had a queen extended I'd be in. Imagine putting in all that work and making a need that's too short for the majority of SA males. I'm 1.88m and I had to put my feet on the walls. Very disappointing!
Something completely different but safe to say we had fun!
We got a kick out of the opening music
Love the smile on both your faces with the intro Christoff this teardrop market in South Africa is growing.
Christoff in a Jimny - Sunday’s made. 🙌🏼
My wife was quite chilled with the Vagabond behind a Jimny, what she petitions for every day.
Awesome little rig and great trailer setup. Thanks for the video, Christoff.
Thanks Björn!
Did quite some camping touring in the 80's with a Suzuki SJ410 (1000cc!) towing a Venter trailer. I owned larger vehicles at the time but it was quite fun touring in the small Jeep once you're tuned into it.
My wife owns a gen 3 Jimny, will be taking that out camping soon 😉
@@GetOutGO Visited a number of "adventurous" destinations in Northern Natal (KwaZulu-Natal) like Ndumo and Hluhluwe / Umfolozi game reserves, Kosi Bay, Sodwana (could still drive on the beach and outperformed All other vehicles! ), St Lucia, Mapelane. Later on I fitted a heavy duty axle with Suzuki wheels on my Venter trailer - still have it.
Love the Vagabond! ❤
Exactly the right review at exactly the right time in exactly the right combination to answer many questions I had.
Glad you found it useful!
@@GetOutGO Every owner of a dome tent will encounter that day when s decision is made that come hell or high water, a better alternative has to be out there, somewhere. The one thing I will add to a teardrop trailer, should I buy one, is a privacy cubicle on the opposite side of the awning so that the trailer can be exited directly into a area suitable for changing in. I suspect I might just sleep better on a proper mattress and in something where the doors can be locked from the inside.
@@GetOutGO I have a suspicion that the Vagabond has (or can have) the same size wheels as the Jimny which might mean that one could potentially fit the same rims and tyres which adds a layer of backup when travelling and also presents better options for tyre rotation with potentially eight tyres available.
@@CasperLabuschagneYes you can. They can match the Jimny PDC on the rim as well. You need to order it like that from the factory though as it needs different axle hubs obviously.
As a Jimny owner -this is the video I was looking for! Thank you.🙏
My pleasure 😎
PS. also maybe have look at the Metalian Genie th-cam.com/video/zqM9cCAOB88/w-d-xo.htmlsi=8U7PiWEqlmXaeAgZ
Great video Christof. Surprised by the Vagabond, seems like a nice little caravan.
And you looked as if you really enjoy the trip. Nice combo Thanks again
You bet, thanks Leon!
What a little setup 😁
It's pretty wicked, right?
@@GetOutGO 😎🤙
great stuff, thanks Christoff I've been waiting for this one. suits me just fine: cook and sleep well! I will test-hire it for a long weekend.
💯You can hire one at www.outdoorcampers.co.za/
Enjoy theses reviews.
Well made video Christoff! Thanks for the Rogue info.
Thank you!
I’m looking to get when soon, would be a nice pre retirement present for myself 😊
Great review on the trailer. Looks very easy to set up. 😊
Thanks! It sure is!
Nice and compact trailer
Very cool adventure ready set up. So jealous cant get either in Canada
Talk to Gear4Overland (g4o.ca/), maybe they can import it for you ;)
Looks good
That’s an interesting package lol it must be struggling a little . I am looking at something similar at the moment but I ruled out the Jimny for 2 reasons they are many vehicles better priced and the engine is just to small . Maybe they should have used a diesel
Yup, a TD Jimny would make lots of sense!
That looks like the wonderful Matamba ?
💯 it certainly is!
Hi Christoff
Which would you choose for yourself? A Vagabond Rouge or an Edge Out?
I haven’t used the Edge Out so can’t really say. Its GVM is 1350kg though so you need an EB license to tow it which you don’t for the 750kg Rogue. It comes with a bit more standard but is heavier and about R25k more than the Roque.
Thank you for your quick reply!!!
😊😊😊
How do you think it will handle 4x4 trails?
Thanks for the video, I really like these trailers, I think I must make a plan to rent one. I see you mentioned I can rent one from Outdoor campers
I’ve seen them as far afield as Mabua so they’re fine for gravel and sand
My wife and I have taken our Rogue on the Namakwa Eco 4x4 trail and it was great ! I tow with a Hilux but the Jimny would do it easily as the terrain isn’t that tough as long as you stay out of the thick sand on the river bank.
@@WilfredWalker-dq6rp now that’s valuable info. Thank you.
This thing might have then just moved up on my list of favourites.
Do you have the standard or upgraded suspension? If you don’t mind me asking
Here from X, cool channel.
Awesome, thanks for visiting!
Now that looks awesome!!
How fast did you tow?
Fastest was around 110 kph, I usually don't tow faster than that
@@GetOutGOwell that is very respectable, its my tow speed anyway. Thanks for the reply
Really keen to try out that Vagabond for a weekend. If I am not mistaken it's a braked axel correct?
The standard 750kg version is not braked, there is a 1400kg GVM braked option (which you need an EB license for). You can actually rent one from Outdoor Campers if you'd like to try it out www.outdoorcampers.co.za/
Hi - the 750kg and 1400kg are both braked as standard 👍
Currently vehicle TARE only allows for 600kg unbraked and 1200kg braked. As a code B license holder, would be looking for 750KG braked 😅 keen to rent for a weekend. Thanks for the video.
@@brycelund6471thanks Bryce
Super interesting combo... If only the Jimny had a bit more power🤔😆
Talk to Penta Suzuki. Apparently there are some upgrade options coming...
Captain Kirk: "Scotty, we need more power!"
Scotty: "Captain, I'm givin her all we got!"
I really liked the video and the cute little teardrop caravan. That's until I went online and saw their prices start from
R 275 000😮😮😮
Compared it to other caravan prices yet?
@GetOutGO Nope. It's just scary how expensive they've become. It's truly become a luxury to own, and not like in the old days when most families could afford it. You were even considered "poor" if you went on holiday with a caravan back in the 80's🤭 Now, I guess you're considered "wealthy" if you tow one.
Thanks for the interesting video🙏🏻👍🏻
@@BubblesTheCat1caravan prices have indeed gone up quite a bit (as has the cars that tow them) unfortunately
@@GetOutGO Yeah, true. That's the sad reality. I was just as shocked when I saw the new little hatchback Ford Puma costs over R600k🙈🤷♂️
Can you tow this teardrop with a small car like a Corolla or Ford Fiesta? Is it braked or unbraked?
It is braked. Find he tow rating of your particular model to see if it can tow it (this model Rogue is 750kg)
This one doesn’t look like it could handle the really rough tough that you usually tow on, I would be would be worried about the spare wheel cracking the fibreglass shell as it moves too much even on road. Teardrop campers are excellent options, but most are only suitable for on road conditions.
This seems to do fine on gravel and sand. The Outdoor Campers one has been to places like Mabua (and back). I wouldn't take it on extreme 4x4 tracks.
See my experience in a comment below. Depends what you mean by extreme - Namakwa Eco 4x4 trail ? We’ve been there and done it with no problem, not even a puncture
You forgot to mention the most important thing? What is the price on the Rogue Teardrop?
I don’t put pricing on any of my videos. These videos live on TH-cam for a long time so by the time you watch it the price has more than likely changed. Easiest is to check with a dealer (like Outdoor Campers).
@@GetOutGO there is always the option to mention the date of the review in conjunction with the price of the product being reviewed. But hey, it’s your review and you can do as you please. By the way, your videos are all 👍
Christof, waar kan ek ñ hoet kry soos joune?
Dis n Aussie hoed, Drizabone, hulle maak hulle ongelukkig nie meer nie. Naaste een is n Akubra maar hulle is peper duur
Problem with the Jimny is that it is way under powered.
I think it’s fine f you don’t tow or accessorize but I would love to see it in a turbo diesel…
I really think that the diesel in the Duster would make take the Jimny to the next level
On the older Gen3 there is a fantastic powerplant upgrade option that blows the Gen4 out of the water. so much so that you outrun a empty gen4 on uphills ect with a loaded trailer such as the vagabond roque.
I have one of those, and the same hill Christoff had to gear down to 3rd I stay in 5th gear (1-1 Ratio gear) maybe 4th if I was asleep at the approach of that hill, and still have to keep an eye on my speed to not exceed the national speed limit and to tow safely.
Testing quite a number of different towing options I personally think the 2 best towing combinations for the Jimny's (gen3 and gen4) in their standard form is the Moremi XLT and the Skipper Model T. both are quick setup Tent trailer and caravan that you can setup within 5 minutes. And both are Light weight (Maxing out at 500kg)
@@barendbekker4901I’ve seen the liana conversion (1800) in the gen3, think that’s awesome! Like I said though, a little turbo diesel in the Jimny would be amazing 👌
@@GetOutGO You are absolutely correct. the 1800 when properly configured packs a nice punch (how the jimny should have been from the floor)..
But the Turbo Diesel idea has flown around the community for years .Suzuki actually did release a gen3 diesel for a specific market with the 1.5dci that you find in the duster, np200 and others. Doing such a conversion would not be a issue, if we could get the correct gear ratio's configured (Obviously it will cost a arm and a leg to do that conversion, but some of us are just a little but nuts for these little 4x4's)
If they had a queen extended I'd be in. Imagine putting in all that work and making a need that's too short for the majority of SA males. I'm 1.88m and I had to put my feet on the walls. Very disappointing!
Are you sure? I’m 6,2ft and I fit (feet underneath the cupboard in front)
Yeah Naah…