Modern Expansion In The NBA & Mock Expansion Draft | The Hoop Collective

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  • Brian Windhorst is joined by ESPN's Tim Bontemps, Kevin Pelton and Bobby Marks to talk the future of expansion in the NBA before Bobby assumes the role of GM for our Expansion Mock Draft. Find out what expansion would look like in the modern NBA including what players could be on the move if it were to happen in the near future.
    0:00 Intro
    2:10 Future Of Expansion In The NBA
    5:41 Expansion Draft History
    15:00 Our Mock Expansion Draft
    17:54 Pelton Round 1 - For Team S
    21:23 Bontemps Round 1 - For Team LV
    23:08 Pelton Round 2 - For Team S
    25:46 Bontemps Round 2 - For Team LV
    28:52 Pelton Round 3 - For Team S
    30:47 Bontemps Round 3 - For Team LV
    32:49 Pelton Round 4 - For Team S
    35:22 Bontemps Round 4 - For Team LV
    37:06 Pelton Round 5 - For Team S
    38:50 Bontemps Round 5 - For Team LV
    41:02 Pelton Round 6 - For Team S
    41:55 Bontemps Round 6 - For Team LV
    42:57 Pelton Round 7 - For Team S
    43:46 Bontemps Round 7 - For Team LV
    44:29 Pelton Round 8 - For Team S
    46:44 Bontemps Round 8 - For Team LV
    48:13 Pelton Round 9 - For Team S
    49:07 Bontemps Round 9 - For Team LV
    53:15 Pelton Round 10 - For Team S
    53:54 Bontemps Round 10 - For Team LV
    56:34 Pelton Round 11 - For Team S
    57:02 Bontemps Round 11 - For Team LV
    57:38 Pelton Round 12 - For Team S
    58:16 Bontemps Round 12 - For Team LV
    59:51 Pelton Round 13 - For Team S
    1:00:09 Bontemps Round 13 - For Team LV
    1:03:21 Pelton Round 14 - For Team S
    1:04:00 Bontemps Round 14 - For Team LV
    1:05:32 Pelton Round 15 - For Team S
    1:05:43 Expansion Mock Draft Reaction
    1:11:31 Thanks For Watching!
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  • @Stasis_lmao
    @Stasis_lmao 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +12

    Can’t wait for my SuperSonics to come home 🙏🏾

    • @aaronwilliams6672
      @aaronwilliams6672 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      One of the works things nba ever did was break up the I-5 rivalry with blazers v sonics

  • @VYElectrify
    @VYElectrify 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

    Protecting a 2nd round pick over Deuce McBride and then immediately drafting him is nasty work

    • @RawJah
      @RawJah 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah and why would the Knicks right now leave Mitchell Robinson unprotected. Ridiculous.

    • @MrTurtleface78
      @MrTurtleface78 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@RawJah All I've heard from the media is how thin the knicks are at Center and then they let an expansion team take their starting C?

  • @mikekelly4542
    @mikekelly4542 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    This is pretty enjoyable, could watch like 3 more of these

  • @jimsimonetti2929
    @jimsimonetti2929 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    You can tell how much more effort Bontempts put into this. Pelton is basically there to draft guys and Tim is wheeling and dealing.

  • @mlong1984
    @mlong1984 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I lived in the Seattle area when the sonics left and even though I'm a bulls fan it was devastating when they left

  • @kelechi321
    @kelechi321 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Bobby Marks getting red when asked to consider "unprotected picks"...is GOLD! He has learned his lesson.

  • @riveenwickenham8392
    @riveenwickenham8392 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

    We're hoop collective guys! Of course, we tuned it in under 2 minutes.

    • @4_kingss
      @4_kingss 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I hate you

    • @Spencahhhhh
      @Spencahhhhh 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      😑

  • @gambitx7777
    @gambitx7777 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    You need to do one with these with 4 expansion teams

  • @naeemmuhammad4362
    @naeemmuhammad4362 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thanos brought the stones out for this pod!!!!!

  • @jackhilsher3503
    @jackhilsher3503 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is the best type of video!!

  • @bhop1871
    @bhop1871 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Bobby marks is official 🫡

  • @LizardBiscuts
    @LizardBiscuts 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I always think the intro is gunna b "We talk about the NBA, so you dont have to" and am left on that cliffhanger every time lol

  • @bennettgibson3738
    @bennettgibson3738 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great topic 😁

  • @michaeladams6042
    @michaeladams6042 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I would love to see a one protected player per team full NBA draft. Make it an super event and have all NBA players not protected redrafted. Who ever gets last pick in the first round gets first round next rookie draft rights and so on. After first year rookie draft goes back to lottery system.

  • @Davivd2
    @Davivd2 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Boston signed the 2 highest contracts in NBA history over the last 2 years. They won the title this year, so their value is high. The NBA also signed a new TV deal, which increases every franchises value. So this team has the highest value that it's going to have right now, and is going to have to let it's players go (and lose that value) or pay into the luxury tax and become less profitable, or even go into the red. Selling high makes sense for Boston. Contracts are increasing massively, and a new TV deal is nice. But there is a limit to what owners can charge for ticket sales. There is a limit to what owners can charge for ticket sales in Memphis vs New York. The TV deal raises contracts, the amount of revenue generated isn't going to be enough to cover that for all teams. The Celtics owner realizes this and is selling before the bubble bursts. Small market teams are not going to be able to compete. This is NOT the time to expand the NBA. The NBA needs to figure out it's finances before they hit a brick wall.

  • @Dtown1996
    @Dtown1996 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +18

    If Vegas gets an NBA team I hope it’s called the Vegas Blackjacks

    • @Wavybets
      @Wavybets 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      That name sucks

    • @BigSlim3600
      @BigSlim3600 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      Naa Las Vegas spades or outlaws

    • @scottrichards3587
      @scottrichards3587 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      Unawware of history? No way spades acceptable, used as racist​ pronoun in 60s.

    • @Wavybets
      @Wavybets 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@scottrichards3587 spades is fire

    • @scottrichards3587
      @scottrichards3587 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Name of any type of weapon won't work, remember Wizards past name?

  • @ldk8
    @ldk8 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Leaving Deuce McBride unprotected is hilarious. Kolek and Dadiet won’t even make the rotation

  • @ProperlyMismanaged
    @ProperlyMismanaged 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Can’t lie this podcast helps me sleep

  • @tshudimamabolo740
    @tshudimamabolo740 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    We need a part 2 🤣🤣🤣

  • @iBambo
    @iBambo 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    This was fun until the end, needed a real recap of the picks and stuff.

  • @jrh63200
    @jrh63200 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Gerald Wallace was the best expansion draft pick ever! Is there anyone else who is close?

  • @jimbrunsman1011
    @jimbrunsman1011 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Not important, but if we had a drinking game for every time Bobby said "here" or "certainly" we'd be hammered. Interesting pod though.

  • @philliphart6327
    @philliphart6327 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Bontemps seemed like he would be a good front office guy.

  • @michaelpatalano9884
    @michaelpatalano9884 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I can’t wait to see which teams offer picks to get off their bad contracts

  • @ArmyLT09
    @ArmyLT09 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Leave it to Bontemps to over complicate this draft and not actually draft a single player

  • @fakeprestongarvey
    @fakeprestongarvey 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    article dropped yesterday 😂 Marks spoiled the picks

  • @baldblade4852
    @baldblade4852 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Windy is forever proving he’s fun at parties. Bro relax and have some fun with the exercise.

  • @feralrollypolly96
    @feralrollypolly96 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    why are kris murray and jabari walker protected over toumani camara? toumani started over both of them last year

    • @GuavaConQueso
      @GuavaConQueso 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      He’s been the best thing that has came out the trade so far. If he becomes a reliable shooter and/or slasher, He’s going to be in starting lineup for the next 5+ years because he’s already a really solid defender capable of guarding multiple positions.

  • @KIrvin_The_Scholar
    @KIrvin_The_Scholar 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    So if they bring a team to Vegas & Seattle then who should go to the East, Memphis or Minnesota?

  • @stomach_bug
    @stomach_bug 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Bontemps should've drafted Thanasis so he could pair him up with Bronny

  • @bigsteve8605
    @bigsteve8605 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I am extremely entertained, but I am not smart enough to understand this process. Just enjoying the ride.

  • @12abomb12
    @12abomb12 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Why would Poeltl not be protected but Ochai would be?

  • @liammmmcculloch
    @liammmmcculloch 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Bobby the Pacers wouldn't trade jarace walker in the siakam deal why would they for Dillion brooks y'all r ridiculous lol

  • @shannon2727
    @shannon2727 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    No way in heck does Toronto protect Ochai Agbaji and leave Poeltl dangling. I’m convinced Marks doesn’t even watch basketball anymore.

  • @shannon2727
    @shannon2727 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I see why Bobby Marks is a former gym. Horrible trades all around

  • @srinivassuresh466
    @srinivassuresh466 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Las vegas venom vipers.. that should be the team name.

  • @ParthPatel-zy4pg
    @ParthPatel-zy4pg 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Why would the knicks lock up Kolek and dadiet over Mitch and deuce?

  • @Saylin021
    @Saylin021 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The Las Vegas Debtors, presented by Fanduel

  • @Adbar10XD
    @Adbar10XD 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Jarace Walker is much more valuable than Dillon Brooks even in a 1 for 1

  • @johnt6806
    @johnt6806 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The team name will undoubtedly be the Las Vegas Mistakes

    • @johnt6806
      @johnt6806 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Though I do like the Las Vegas Insomnia

  • @chrispy7693
    @chrispy7693 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    did this guy just offer jakob poeltl for a 24-10-5, 2x allnba, 3x allstar power forward in the middle of his prime

    • @kraw3026
      @kraw3026 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Coming off a season ending shoulder injury on a team that he is an outlier and having a $28M cap hit....

    • @micho3038
      @micho3038 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ⁠@@kraw3026the first longterm injury of his entire career. before he went down he played in 95% of his games as a knick. the man who chose to go to the Knicks in free agency & took a paycut on his extension back then. an outlier? you are crazy and do not watch ball. back in the day when the team was trash yeah he was a ball stopper, bc who could he pass to with confidence? y'all haters want to remove him from the best team he's ever been on because of media personalities that just need something to talk about and can't bear to say anything good about the team. f outta here. iso scoring does not make him an outlier. being able to create his own shot does not make him an outlier. brunson will not be able to sustain helioball for an entire post season. the team NEEDS julius to be versatile and be able to throw different looks at their opponents. a $28 cap hit is a fuckn DEAL for what he brings to the table. but yeah, be snarky on the internet, casual....

    • @micho3038
      @micho3038 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      not to mention, him & randle were teammates, and he's gone on the record multiple times this off season that he's willing to pair down his usage to help the team succeed. get the f outta NY.

    • @kraw3026
      @kraw3026 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@micho3038 we'll see if he is on the roster by the deadline

    • @kraw3026
      @kraw3026 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@micho3038 dont be a fan. This is a business

  • @BigSlim3600
    @BigSlim3600 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Vegas , New Jersey , Seattle , Hawaii and maybe a few others should get a team

    • @dearmas9068
      @dearmas9068 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      All terrible choices besides seattle

    • @BigSlim3600
      @BigSlim3600 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@dearmas9068 New Jersey nets ? Las Vegas being a city that’s all about money and tourism which could translate into other things ? Seattle is a beautiful city but it’s always gloomy and rainy .. Hawaii another place that ppl could experience? Idk

    • @dearmas9068
      @dearmas9068 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@BigSlim3600 las Vegas shouldn't exist, and the fact that its getting sports teams at all is horrible.
      New Jersey had a team with a healthy supportive fanbase, and it moved across the river to Brooklyn. Theres no jeed to try it again. 3 teams in that small of an area doesn't make sense.
      No one will ever want to play for a team thats out in haiwaii. Its too far. The traveling will be a nightmare. Players already complain about traveling out of Toronto.

    • @BigSlim3600
      @BigSlim3600 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@dearmas9068 why shouldn’t it ?

    • @dearmas9068
      @dearmas9068 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@BigSlim3600 because its in the middle a desert draining the environment in a 100 mile radius of all its resources and destroying the wildlife just so they can have 40 golf courses and pools in every hotel.
      And its a serious conflict of interest to have the center of gambling host any professional sports teams.

  • @doughansen9550
    @doughansen9550 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    if Bobby Marks has no haters then i've died. he really makes every pod more boring

  • @IsaiahB0
    @IsaiahB0 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Mark cuban, Michael Jordan, Irv & Wyc and Marc Larsy all selling within the last few years should be a big red flag. Why is everyone selling 🤔 will the league be here in 20 yrs ?

  • @MrBimirud
    @MrBimirud 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Seattle and Vega$$$ are locks. As a Montrealer, I didn't see the need for ESPN to mention my city even though I think we'd be a great NBA town.

    • @dearmas9068
      @dearmas9068 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Vegas shouldn't exist. Its a shame were putting any sports teams there at all.

    • @MrBimirud
      @MrBimirud 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@dearmas9068 Agreed. But if Oakland A's relocate, every league will have a team in Sin City, except for the NBA. WNBA is already there so we all know how that goes ...

    • @dearmas9068
      @dearmas9068 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@MrBimirud it does seem inevitable. Yeah.
      Its just wrong is all...

  • @ThomasBrima-pu3yf
    @ThomasBrima-pu3yf 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Vegas😊

    • @dearmas9068
      @dearmas9068 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Yuck

  • @ignitebridgeiii5425
    @ignitebridgeiii5425 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Funny...NBA isn't expanding to a recent city or a new American one.. It's Mexico City and an over seas City...NBA wants to be global n with travel advanced it's becoming possible.. Like the NFL

  • @smile4me844
    @smile4me844 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I just wish NBA had a Team relegation model where the weakest teams get relegated to make room for teams that get promoted to the NBA are vetted by playing in a lower league. I don't want to see another Detroit pistons/Charlotte/Washington wizard. Adding weak teams to the NBA will water down its quality. Playing in the NBA should be a privilege not a right.

  • @gambitchips3329
    @gambitchips3329 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Pin me!