Kaz is clearly a traitor, even by his own admission. Not only to Big Boss twice over but to Cipher as well. That isn't theory, it's *fact.* His entire goal was to start the War Economy, which by MGS4 is in full swing, Kaz's dream was realized post-mortum in the same perverted ways as The Boss' dream was.
PythonSelkan here. We received your video and we won't go into any specifics about our theories as we respect everyone's opinion about them, but you mentioned our "ego", and you really should have shown the original comment of the user who offended us that led to our reply at 1:02:01, who called our channel dead and unreliable without any valid reason. Maybe you're not aware, but we've been falsely accused of creating other people's theories such as the MGS Zero and Chico is Quiet pretty much on a daily basis, leading to constant online hate against us personally that is totally uncalled for, especially when we've been proven more right than wrong. At 0:49, even you showed a Chico is Quiet comment next to our name, which can EASILY lead to further confusion among viewers. When you face such unnecessary online hate, it's good to remind them what your channel has achieved, to the contrary of the misinformation they are spreading online. No ego or arrogance whatsoever, and anyone who follows our channel knows this. Just counter arguments to accusations against us :) - PythonSelkan
thanks you for commenting pythonselkan, i hope you know i wasn't try to be disrespectful, i just had some observations and if I'm wrong i gladly apologize, personally i was just trying to show the controversy surrounding some of your epic analysis videos, and shed the light on both sides of the mgs community both "negative" and positive", i had to mention you because i felt it would be a injustice not give to names to who looked into these theories, we all asked and made them come to light, yourself included , especially the Ishmael not been real, i completely agree on that theory, and well dont hate on your channel i hope you continue to grow! cant say you would wish the same for me though. 😂😂 I'm looking forward to your death stranding 2 trailer analysis i doubt you will leave any stone unturned 👍 i dont advocates for haters or abuse on someone's channel those reddit comments was reference's to show the reaction you generated i should really of elaborated further, i was very surprised you went out of your way to hunt me down?, by the way you have some really good spies in your intel team!, i dont think it was necessary ( a channel at your level), nobody is trying destroy your image, you say "accusations" like its a political matter, there just simple opinions of redditors you cant reason with, people's say stuff all the time that's offensive, my job was to show the controversy regarding your theory's, not justify who was wrong and right, that's not my concern, and as for your channels the success speaks for itself really.
Ngl this comment sounds pretty defensive but like a little too righteous and it just supports the little criticism the video did give you. Like, if you're doing well, you usually don't go telling people "HEY IM DOING REALLY WELL, AND YOURE NOT" regardless of if they're internet trolls. Bro they're trolls, you just ignore those.
I’m convinced Chico was meant to be quiet. But Konami and Kojima abandoned the theory before it could be made canon due to cancel culture becoming prominent at the time.
Kazuhira's real first name is Benedict and considering Hideo's knowledge of American history he would know of the infamous Benedict Arnold who was a turncoat and betrayed the U.S. to the redcoats whilst attempting to hand over westpoint fortress, fleeing into exile in Britain, but Benedict Miller, being more espionage savy, shifts the blame onto Huey who is exiled.
A little thing that Skull Face and Big Boss have in common is their description of their past for Big Boss is the unofficial official biography Big Boss is half Japanese and was born in Hawaii he ends up losing his family to the Pearl Harbor attack “I was born in a small village, I was still a child when we were raided by soldiers, foreign soldiers….” “You left everything behind. Your country, your identity, your past and ideals…..” the similarities are hard to ignore if you think about it Big Boss also doesn’t mention his past to anyone where other characters will gladly tell you about themselves and how they got along with their parents he is our ghost without a past I could go on with Venom by saying the medicine he was injected with is meant to be given to people who survived heart attacks in the 80s and who do we know that suffered a heart attack before falling into a coma these little details are hard to ignore
"Not just that, but the Man On Fire chose this time to wake up too," This always confuses me. Venom encounters The Man On Fire during the hospital escape. From the events of Snake Eater when BB takes out Volgin, through to the end of GZ when Mother Base is destroyed and BB enters his comatose stage, there is no Man On Fire but when Ocelot mentions this to BB after he awakens from the coma it's implied that BB knows of the Man On Fire. Is this just a narrative oops moment, or have I missed something?
1) Ocelot is the one who hypnotized Venom Snake 2) The drugs Snake administered to himself causes hallucinations according to his hallucination. 3) He apparently seeing things like flying whales on fire and the flower petals from Snake Eater's epilogue. 4) Volgin's body is in play somehow, Diamond Dogs recover it towards the end of the game after he gets squashed. Do with those facts what you will. The whole hospital scene could be a fever dream while awake. Aftereffects of the hypnogogic therapy. Alot of things in that mission are strange when you really slow things down and think. There's even strong evidence to suggest all of Ground Zeroes is just the hypnosis process itself.
@venn7eance925, it is most possible that Big Boss kept track of Volgin after operation Snake Eater, it's important to remember that after the events of MGS 3, Big Boss worked with Major Zero for sometime, and he would certainly be the type to keep an eye on Volgin, he and Big Boss would certainly be aware of important information as Volgin still being alive but in a coma.
@RecluseBootsy it might have been the drugs but don't forget a young psycho mantis was there too so he surely atleast contributed if not actually caused the hallucinations.
iirc venom snake's waking from the coma coincide with young psycho mantis's flight in the middle of his transport nearby (about 1 miles north of venom snake) , young psycho mantis accidentally tuned into venom snake's negative emotions and caused young psycho mantis to crash the plane which landed close to a facility keeping volgin's remains, young psycho mantis is susceptible to getting controlled by negative emotions whoever has the strongest one in range psycho mantis then tuned into volgin's thoughts for revenge on naked snake (likely because it's stronger) and assisted volgin to revive and turn into man on fire (MoF) a week later MoF, guided by his lust for revenge and likely given/gotten the information through young psycho mantis, made his way to the hospital where venom snake and big boss is recovering, multiple parties tried to save big boss from MoF or any potential danger tldr venom snake's initial awakening causes psycho mantis to crash his plane flight which landed near half-dead volgin then volgin's lust for revenge is very strong that it controls psycho mantis and psycho mantis is moving volgin's body and power(s) under volgin's control
Quiet's "design" is always the topic of choice, yet no one ever talks about how when Quiet has her moments where she gets violent, beauty leaves their mind. She could kill all of Mother base, except for Ocelot and Venom. Yet while there's whats called down time, you forget how violent she can be because shes lovley. Its the same trick Zabuza used with Haku in Naruto. "No one expects a beautiful woman to be such a deadly asassin till its to late." -Zabuza
Kept you waiting huh? Sorry For being late but i had a lot of things to do at home lately. Im Happy to see another video of yours, i do agree with what you said about quiet. My personal take is that: As long as the character is interesting, cool and well written then im gonna like it and i find quiet really well made. Peaple like to cry about everything so don't worry about haters. Keep up man can't wait for more
ahaaa we meet at last, no worries mate that's life always got us doing something, couldn't of said any better myself!, games are there to be enjoyed and take us on a cool journey, and forget the bs in the world sometimes 😂 😂, once again bro your pretty good and until we meet again, and keep mgs alive!
Excellent video man really opened my eyes to how kaz really betrayed big boss and Ishmael been part of venom snakes hallucinations made worse by mantis, the fight club was an amazing movie, that’s very similar to mgsv good job !
The craziest theory I’ve heard is that the events of MGSV never actually happened; it was all hypnagogia, based on contradicting statements from the prior saga. It basically says that Peace Walker is the real MGS5, and that afterwards, Big Boss eventually fires Kaz due to not trusting him anymore, and MSF eventually moves to South Africa and becomes Outer Heaven. Then BB barely manages to get himself out before it explodes in 1995, saves who he can, and relocates to Zanzibar Land. Me personally, I don’t know what to think. When I first heard the theory I didn’t wanna believe it, but the evidence for it has me wondering…
I do believe Ground Zeroes didn't happen, but Phantom Pain I think has to happen for anyone to believe Venom is Big Boss, which Solid Snake at the very least believed.
pretty sure mgsv is real but I heard that peace walker is meant to be mgs 5, and the V in mgsv is not a roman numeral and that it's a literal letter "v"
I like to think that most if not all of the MGSV missions are "pseudo-historical recreations." They are things that mostly happened, kinda, probably at places that resemble the locations we visit, but not necessarily in those actual places, or in the time frame we are led to believe, and almost certainly not involving some of the people we are shown to be involved. But I'm also drinking the "the Skullface and Kaz that we interact with in the game aren't real and are both reflections of Venom's fractured mind" kool-aid so I can probably be safely ignored.
Big Boss didn't abandon his comrades though. He gave Miller his Phantom, Venom Snake to go after XOF to avenge Paz, Chico, and MSF. While he went after the Zero and Cipher who caused the destruction of MSF albeit unintentionally. He's the reason Venom made it out of the hospital in the opening of V. BB is definitely militaristic but I don't think he is a dictator. The opposite in fact BB always tried to live his life and do what he thought was right for others over himself.
9:00 the problem is that form of quiet isnt necesary to his evolution. EVA had a reason to that, and Kojima made probably the best female character in the videogames history with The Boss, Quiet its far from those great characters of mgs3
You’ve just recently been in my algorithm feed, and you def deserve more than 5k subs. You’re for sure one of the top 3 MGS channels I watch at this point.
@mycardboardbox I haven't yet watched this video but I have saved it in my playing. I post to you because I am looking for people to discuss what is known as the abiotic theory of oil and MGS 1 touched on this a'la the scientist who is one of the hostages you must rescue. Have you heard of this theory? It is the competing idea to the fossil fuel theory. I was about 13 when MGS came out bur owned an N64 although I played it with friends and obviously in 97 and at that age the meeting with the scientist held no real world significance for me. When I started working at 16 I bought a PlayStation and at about this time I played through the whole of MGS for myself for the first time. By this time I was deep into the world of conspiracy theories and upon playing the game again the first thing that struck me was that D.A.R.P.A is involved in the plot and this is a real government agency of the US. Then the scientist scene comes up and I realise that this is a conspiracy theory that i had recently come across which is the theory that oil is not a fossil fuel and that the energy companies and such know this. The implications of this claim are pretty astounding I'm sure you appreciate, it is quite a claim. From my understanding of this theory the biggest physical evidence, at the time, was from oil wells that had been drained years ago and which had seemingly refilled and there are arguments about why this may be and some of those arguments were from people who believed oil was abiotic. Theoretically probably the biggest evidence for this that I was aware of is that there are claims that the amount of oil that we have pulled out of the earth must far outstrip the amount of plant matter needed to make it. In about 2005 I read a New Scientist magazine that turned out to have an article in it about a discovery being made whereby a process to create synthetic fuel using a reaction between UV light and a certain type of blue-green algea was described. MGS! This all got really interesting in 2012 however when a Swiss experiment proved the abiotic theory of oil! And it was never reported. This is a crazy topic and I found it rather amusing that a video game from 97 contained such a lead to a conspiracy "theory" which is just mind blowing in nature. I recently played Dues Ex which is lorded for its conspiracy theories but was unimpressed, it was written by someone who does not really understand too much from my point of view. The crrators of MGS however do seem quite clever. The codec conversations from MGS2 about information saturation is very insightful and MGS1s inclusion of the oil shenanigans is epic, just in terms of its inclusion as a plot device thst is both crazy and plausibly possible at the same time is a great piece of storytelling regardless of any real world implications or existence that is may have.
the connection between Ocelot and Liquids arm being the sorrow has always been my head canon since MGS 3 i had no idea other people catched on to that too
Man I fucking love metal gear solid and it makes me soo happy to see how many enjoy it who else is ready for metal gear solid delta snake eater p.s. love the video u really took my feelings and put them in words
What if the old mother base soldiers that we as venom snake rescues them from the wild is just his hallucinations of him saving them since he couldn’t even save them from the attack at the old mother base.
Given that the photo's we give to Paz come from those soldiers, it isn't too far a stretch to imagine that those missions and soldiers are also hallucinations.
@@venn7eance925 also it doesn’t make sense that the old motherbase soldiers are in afghan or Africa and able to survive in the wilderness without survival gear for nine years either so they should also be hallucinations just like paz.
Big Boss is Skullface is an interesting theory, though I'm not sure I buy it. Mostly due to the fact that Skullface gets trapped has a couple limbs shot off then killed, but I will admit with how much Venom is messed up throughout MGSV it's hard to be sure how much of what he sees and hears is real. As for Chico being scared of him that can be explained by it being dark and raining and just in general him being scared from all the torture he's been though. Also if skullface survived, even if only as Big Boss, I feel it would take away from the narrative of his absence being a sort of phantom pain in that characters still have this anger and vengeance mindset but now nowhere to direct it, and while I wouldn't say Hideo is the greatest writer ever I think he's good enough to realize how him surviving would hurt the narrative. I hardy consider two people saying similar or identical things is solid evidence of them being the same person. It is possible, I can't and won't dismiss it entirely, but I doubt it.
The limbs being shot off is directly Kaz doing to Skull Face what was done to Kaz, assumedly, correctly or not, at the orders of Skull Face. Being killed, well, that's the fate we all know awaits Venom isn't it? And eventually Big Boss as well
Goddammit, the biggotry took me out of it. I am an lgbt person, and I agree with you about quiet. Would appreciate not being unnecessarily attacked out of nowhere. Good video overall, and a genuinely nice take on Quiet. Hope you do well.
i try judge people individually but given on so many negative experiences with the lgbt, it's naturally changed my opinion on the very movement, its not something i care to elaborate on, im sure you know why, i don't care what you believe that's your right to be you, but i find i get attacked for my opinion which isn't exactly love and equality, i get there's bad in right and left, but the left always prove my point, they can demonise me and when i do the same there rainbows turn into pentagrams, either way your probably a cool person, i hope you do well too
It’s well understood by now that Acceptance has always been the goal and a majority of people will agree and respect that desire. The issue many have with it is how many on Social Media, a majority typically being “Allies”, care more about “calling out” and “protecting the Oppressed” for THEIR BENEFIT than for everyone else’s. It’s the same that many on the Left will call out lots of Center/Right Wing commenters/pundits for albeit with the express purpose of “dunking on” them 🤷🏽♂️ All the dude in the video was expressing is how this sentiment and how hypercritical/hyperbolic much of the rhetoric is and how it’s actually starting to have the polar opposite effect: breeding animosity instead of enacting REAL Acceptance. If the Social Media landscape and the ESG Movement (aka “corporations pretending to care about Social & Political Movements to get paid by Investors”) wasn’t so aggressive and borderline partisan/hateful while simultaneously being far more understanding of the people who disagree with them that they want to reach (or, sometimes, claim to want), the world would be a far better place and that discontentment wouldn’t be a thing. Until that day…it’ll always be each side calling the kettle black and cheering on each others’s losses while never making things better for the people actually suffering or being oppressed. PS. Blame… - Antonio Gramsche (for his methods being put into play today to make the world a far worse place) - Saul Alinsky (for normalizing Grifting & Power Politics) - Blackrock/Vanguard/State Street (for profiting off the plight of the LGBT Movement) - BLM (for knowingly setting POCs’s plights, like myself, back by decades) - Breadtube (for purposely closing a whole portion of the world off from one another by willingly being ignorant of their “opposition” by never researching things they disagree with…but WILL research something to refute it) - and Grifters who constantly want us all to believe we’re boxed in and hated by others JUST FOR EXISTING…but never live by their words and get mad at the insistence they don’t. It’s THEIR FAULTS for the “call outs” and it wouldn’t be happening if there wasn’t such toxicity behind the Marxist “Everything is Political” rhetoric that purposely makes people cynical about everything that isn’t within their worldview 🤷🏽♂️ I personally am ambivalent about these causes since I have a pair of eyes and see how miserable Politics makes people (and hide it by being smug), but I do respect anyone who’s brave enough to come out. However, one must remember this: you can’t FORCE it from anyone and even if they disagree/hate, that doesn’t mean they are dead to you/the world…but it only becomes true if one believes people can’t change. Because we all can 👍🏽
@@mycardboardbox it’s a bit odd your point is negative experience with people that are LGBT rather than acknowledging what it is about the person’s actions that made you not like them. a sample size of 100 is too small to even to decide that
I have a theory about MGS V. It's all a Netflix or some kind of other series. If you think about it, every time you start a new mission it says starring so and so and guest stars. Perhaps that is why some details are off and it is well known that Kojima is a big fan of movies and wanted to be a director.
there's a theory that the entire mgsv is venom snake recalling his memories acting as big boss and the only part that happens outside of the recollection is when venom snake is listening to the tapes that he got from the man who sold the world and possibly just before venom snake fully in becomes "big boss" as he walks off to fight solid snake in mg1
MGS is such a fun game franchise, absolutely love 3,4 as my all time favorites but 5 is a great game even if David isn’t snake but Keifer is a good substitute as snake. Basically what I’m saying is that MGS 5 isn’t a bad game like everyone thinks or says it is in my opinion. On a side note, bring out the MGS 3 remake already so we can all rock it and go after that beautiful platinum trophy!!!
MGS5 has its problems but alot of them can be atleast partially blamed on the fact the game was never finished due to the falling out between Kojima and Konami. I enjoyed it despite it's problems and in the end foe me that's what's important in any form of entertainment.
I think that Kaz is working with cipher is the strongest theory out of these (as well as big boss not actually helping V out of the hospital). Kaz as a character seemed like he’d do anything for money and power (and later revenge). Ocelot despises how he used war as a business, and I am team Ocelot all the way.
About quiet, I really hate the fact that the working team of mgsV tried to find a valid and good reason why to make her fan service, yes I do think that her design is indeed fan service because from the burns she would atleast look "distorted" and I think that she breathes thru her skin makes no sense at all because she is deployed in sandy areas like afghanistan and the sand would rub on her skin which would be very bad for her and very hard to breathe and the fact that she can shower makes no sense, the water would basically pierce her skin and she would suffocate in the water but she does have a good character.
Skull Face being some kind of mental twin of Big Boss doesn't make the slightest sense to me. SF was the leader of the unit that destroyed MSF, on orders from Cipher. So according to that theory, the dark side of BB really destroyed his own PMC?!
Not on Cypher's orders, but yes, Big Boss's dark side destroyed what he built because he is a pariah, a war monger. They also have Venom, another dark reflection of what Big Boss *will* become, kill a bunch of his own soldiers to more directly make this point.
@@nathanstruble2177 Isn't it confirmed that XOF attacked MSF on orders from Cipher? The motive being that MSF refused to be used by Zero. How do you explain SF and BB being in different places then? For example in GZ, SF is in a helicopter while BB is entering the base. And why do the other characters talk about SF in a way that shows he's a different person? Simply doesn't make any sense. I can't see a reason to believe in such a far fetched theory. Venom killed his own men because he had to. He took responsibility and performed an extremely difficult task, because there was no other option. They needed to take care of the virus outbreak.
I love beautiful women and I'm proud of it. It's absolutely fine to incorporate something or someone you like into a piece of art you are making. Hideo has nothing to be ashamed of and I'm proud of him.
@@B3ardd almost definitely and like I skipped the quiet controversy part and like whats crazy is its otherwise not that bad of a video its just a long tirade about sjws that makes this video so bad lol.
great video, i really enjoyed your summarization of the theories, but you really fucked up saying Guillermo Del Toro’s name lol, keep up the good work tho, you make good content
Maybe a little but Frank was older than Chico was when he dies at the time of Portable Ops so it's not likely even though there is debate over whether or not PO is canon.
I posted this comment to someone else, but wanted to post this outside of a reply: Lol I just find that her being almost naked looks so silly and ridiculous. MGS always has silly and ridiculous, exaggerated characters, so it's par for the course, but it just seems especially dumb for such an elite and capable soldier to be running around, lol for all intents and purposes naked, fighting in the harsh environment of the desert against all sorts of overly equipped enemies. I think it's a perfect example of where fan service just completely disrupts your suspension of disbelief and could be done so much better if it wasn't so explicit. You can make a character super attractive and sexy, male or female, without appearing like a jackass in the middle of war zone,. Lol Imagine if Venom snake ran around in a speedo for the entire game, during all the dramatic cut scenes, trying to depict stoicism and pathos, with his package bulging and jiggling for the camera everytime he moved lmao. Or worse yet, imagine skull face looking like that lol. It would be impossible to take seriously and would completely take you out of the story. And of course, it just seems like pandering to horny boys so it's not surprising it pisses off people whether they are fans of the series or not.The extremely nuanced and rich commentary of the metal gear solid games are hurt by such depictions in my opinion and are one of my main criticisms of the series. The first metal gear solid did it best in my opinion, as the fantastical wasn't so explicit as to ruin the relative sense of realism.
Funny how Quiet has better characterization than 90% of women characters in video games. Super deep character and strong/capable as well. Anyone who has a problem with her must have a problem with genuinely interesting and attractive women in real life.
Quiets cool but her entire character is just soldier was bad but now breathe through skin and is not bad look at boobs. Definitely just kojima being a horndog but he's always been a horndog and it wouldn't be metal gear without that.
Then why couldn’t they make the character, but with clothes? If she’s just meant to be attractive but skilled and deadly, she could do so while clothed. Think Jill Valentine, Joanna Dark, and Laura Croft. All wearing clothes, and STILL strong, beautiful, capable women.
I actually am one of the people who believe the Chico is quiet theory. But what I believe happened was that it was the original intention, but was shelved because cancel culture was really starting at the time. So they abandoned it before it could be made canon
I love Kojima and his work, but he does have misogynistic views if he cannot see and understand why people don’t like the over-sexualized female characters he makes. The reason for Quiet being mostly nude was just a shallow cover for why she was almost nude throughout the game. The fact that you can give her the Sniper Wolf outfit, which has no negative effect on her abilities at all, shows that she did not need to be exposed, and it was done simply as a gratuitous bit of fan service. And your assumption that anyone who thinks this way has a “liberal LTBTQ” mindset is just ignorant. Women on all sides are tired of being objectified, and men are tired of seeing them objectified and used for their bodies. You can make a strong, capable woman character without making her strip down to nothing. Your biases are on full display here, and your viewpoint is rooted in the misogyny that built this horrible section of society. This is not a conspiracy, but your attempt at taking jabs at anyone who wants to take away your waifus from games.
People aren't tired of it at all. Stellar blade for example was the best selling game on ps5 at release month and pulled people in while pretty much every game with the new liberal view is failing. Concord for example has pretty much only "politically correct" women and is already failing in the beta phase with like 1200 people playing as a all time high. Then you also have absolutely negative reception of games like the newest fable due to the character they used in the trailer or the latest failure called flintlock the siege of dawn. Also worth mentioning are these gacha games who pretty much only make money by selling good looking characters and make tons of money that way. You can say that you personally don't like it but that people are tired of it is just objectively wrong. I also don't see how Kojima has misogynistic views, he created way better written female characters than whatever these modern activists try to create while actively attempting to elevate women.
When are you going to accept that people just like seeing beautiful people? It always come back to the same thing with you commies, it is nature and reality themselves that are the target of the revolution but you will never be God. When Marxists can levitate and shoot laser beams out of their eyes and stuff THEN we will accept that your ideology could work. When you can perform sorcery your ideologies time will have come but not before then. We cannot possibly begin to implement your ideology until we have the power to change or negate the laws of physics and reality itself. When you can do thst I will accept your socialism as a possibility. Until then reality is king.
@@lordsoros627literally no one is saying it isn't about enjoying beautiful people. The issue is the claims to the contrary. Kojima claiming we "would be ashamed of our words and our deeds" rang entirely hollow when it was revealed she was half naked because Kojima likes seeing pretty half naked women. If you like pretty women, and want to put pretty women in your game, just be honest about it. No one had any issues with 2B from Neir:Automata, because the guy most associated with that game's development openly admitted he just likes pretty women.
@@lordsoros627also of note, humans can fucking FLY now, we literally walked on the damned MOON! The idea that "nature" still rules is willfully ignorant.
The Average Beta Male : NOOOO QUITE IS TO SEXY Me the Average man with Intellgenz : Sniper Wolf,Eva, Fortune,the Beauty and the Best Squad . Alle of them dressed Sexy all of them Are Strong Charakters . The BB squad not . There was never a Word abou these but yeah only modern Soyboys complaing about this
I'm gonna keep watching for a bit to see if this continues or not, but the Quiet bit at the beginning is basically just "LiBrUls BaD". Skip that at the very least. There were points to be made but the author just couldn't stop himself from changing the topic from "Quiet is more of a character than the controversy" to "grr liberals," practically spitting on the floor every time he used the word lol Edit: having seen the way the author carries himself in the comments, I do not respect him. The other bits of the video I watched don't go so hard into his cuckery, but that Quiet part is definitely who he is, which is disheartening, because I love this kind of content
you are confronted with a single video that isn't bread-tube adjacent vg content and your first reaction is "this guy is bad bad no no guy". I think it's great that there's a political gamut on long form vg content and I put up with PLENTY of other videos unironically talking about the virtues of Marxism and how everything is sexist, filled with critical theory and deconstructionist slop. I don't start a political flame war in the comments when I see that, I just recognize that it's not directed toward me or my kind of content. My political views and values aren't so fragile that I have to protect them from any kind of counter discourse by immediately acting in bad faith and getting upset about it. The more ubiquitous leftist branded liberalism becomes, the more you are going to see critiques of it, especially given how utterly it has ravaged and destroyed the gaming industry, so you should get used to people being far, far more vocal about their dislike of it in the coming years, and you should welcome it as proof that those views (yours) are now the status quo.
Another thing i never understood was the Body Double Controvercy . What well will play a Body at some point in time was Known at what point im time for at least nearly roughly 20 years as this twist was Reveald all the way back in Metal gear 2 Solid Snake who at what point in Time was released in the HD collection any Person who had Rough Knowledge about Metal knew this the Moment the Trailer said the last piece in the Metal gear Saga so i really never got this controvercy in the first place
I haven't played MG2 in a while but I don't remember anything mentioning a double in it. If anything it supports the lack of a double by claiming Big Boss had parts of his body replaced with cybernetics, say parts that were caught in an explosion or shrapnel thrown out by the explosion. Granted that's an optional radio call an could just be a non Canon Easter egg referencing another game Kojima made.
This guy is literally that one meme "now you liberals can reflect on your woke sky" I can like metal gear and still admit that it has some issues. It's so lame to be like "oh of course it's reddit dude, like cmon liberals." It's just fun to theorize about things even if it's a far stretch. People talking about the game gets more engagement and more people playing the games we love so much. Let people have fun and stop blaming things you don't like on "woke" mindsets. I can agree that the chico is quiet theory is lame but it's just people in the community trying to rationalize why such a pivotal character is just missing from the second half of mgsv, and regardless of how dogshit the theory is it raises a good question of "where exactly did chico go?"
@@Thugpacshaker Listen to basically every sentence he says in this video. The dude has an obvious agenda and brings up liberals up every moment he can.
The Quiet controversy is stupid. This is Metal Gear, everyone is gay, so no one even cares about her physique. You don't have to be straight to admire a woman's beauty
Every time someone says this game is unfinished, just respond with "so was the Tower of Babel." 😉 If you know, you know. If you don't, keep diving down the MGSV rabbithole.
All these heterophobic people should be ashamed. Quiet is an amazing character and all of her sexiness is secondary to her badassness. Let us straight people be who we are.
One example of this is the fact that when you use her in the game, unlike the walker gear or ddog or the horse, you don't even see her for the most part, and her skill is superhuman, basically she's stronger than any of the male soldiers in the game, sans venom
Right so this guy pulls the idea that people hate quite because they’re gay liberals completely out of his ass and anyone calling him out for it is heterophobic? can’t you see how hilariously ironic this is? some people not liking quite because they think she’s just fan service is just what those people think, not every single opinion is based on the American political system
Wait, no facts to probe that Quiet character is sexist as fuck? C'mon mate I LOVE Kojima and MGS but Quiet is sexist, if that's good or bad i leave it for others. Deeper meaning xD
🌈 sure thing cuckhold 👍keep blindly watching your garbage tv media feeding you garbage narratives about TOXIC MEN and how everythings a white persons fault 😂 baaaaaa nothing sexist at all real men love sexy women always will that's how babies are born, not by your genz logic run along dweeb try eat a steak lift some weights gtfo my channel
Is Raiden sexist AF as well in your opinion? He showed a lot more skin than quiet a few times and runs around in a skin tight suit throughout the whole game
I 100% Guarentee that the dislikes come from people regarding the first Quiet section of the video, Why cant women just be sexy? Is there something wrong with a mean lean killing machine also being sexy? And how canonically the reason for her being naked is because she photosynthesizes like a plant? Besides actual gamers love this game, i've seen so many actual female gamers who play MGS5 who love quiet as a character. People who hate Quiets design and personality arent real fans.
indeed they are you can thank political correctness for that, and some of the brainwashed who think a man appreciating a woman's beauty is wrong, but there's actually a good reason for her "nakedness", its just screams insecurity, people who act ashamed to be human because the media feeds them lies, ive been called homophobic for this video, which shows how delusional they are, im a you tuber and will try keep it professional but when there's bs i have to call it out
The reason it's annoying is bc it's shoehorned in, and it's pandering. There was no reason to go off on some "ugh libruls" tirade to make a serious point like that. It diminishes what he was trying to say, and it's no different than when you see "woke" bs shoehorned into a show for the sake of pandering. It's just him crying about it for no reason. It's weak snowflake stuff
This whole thing about Kojima hating wome is stupid, every single woman in the metal gear franshise is some kind of badass, or genius, even the B&B unit were an elite spec op unit. Meanwhile half the men or more are utterly useless, however charming Johnny may be. If thats the writing of a misogynist then wtf do yall think of normal people
I think most of the women are more "pure", manipulated or used as a tool what I meant as "pure" is that they're not fooling themselves into fighting for a twisted reason, like pure emotion like loyalty, revenge, etc and they usually know they are in the wrong and accepted it while the males characters are usually the one that twist things, like zero trying to make a legend using big boss, or ocelot, big boss and kaz using venom snake for their purpose abusing venom snake's loyalty
idk, but it might be a intentional that the boss is depicted as pure and forgotten while those left behind mostly males such as zero, ocelot and bb interpreted the boss's will in each of their own ways and that it would've continued getting more twisted if solid snake never decided to break off, only because big boss underestimated solid snake
I’ve loved these games since 1998 and can admit that Quiet is a terrible character and Kojima’s explanation is also weak. Maybe he didn’t mean that but his portrayal of the only female character is clearly indicative of his true views on women. You can provide a deep female character with back story without making her wear that outfit and explain it with that bullshit story. Grow up.
Fortune, eva,Sniper wolf the Beauty and the beast squad . All of them Are Woman . All wear exposing clothes but Quite no she wears to less . Fortune Wears a Rubber body , Eva wears a Cat Suit with open Zipper , Sniper wolf has a Boob window
He could’ve given his opinion in a very eloquent way and I agree with his view on the character, people aren’t calling him homophobic because he likes quiet, they’re calling him homophobic because of what he said and how he replies to criticism in the comments, it can be really jarring for people to watch a video on a games conspiracy theories and get hate thrown at them from nowhere, and that applies to anyone not just the “LGBT liberals”
@@mattw731 I do quite enjoy yapping look long thing short, it’s his video he can say whatever he wants and it’s your comment you can say whatever you want but if you say something blatantly inflammatory and hateful just own up to it, he can be homophobic that’s his choice but don’t act like a child who got cough with his hand in the cookie jar and act innocent
Kaz is clearly a traitor, even by his own admission. Not only to Big Boss twice over but to Cipher as well. That isn't theory, it's *fact.* His entire goal was to start the War Economy, which by MGS4 is in full swing, Kaz's dream was realized post-mortum in the same perverted ways as The Boss' dream was.
That is something I noticed and something Armstrong mentioned during his boss fight. Kaz was a menace from the start
PythonSelkan here. We received your video and we won't go into any specifics about our theories as we respect everyone's opinion about them, but you mentioned our "ego", and you really should have shown the original comment of the user who offended us that led to our reply at 1:02:01, who called our channel dead and unreliable without any valid reason. Maybe you're not aware, but we've been falsely accused of creating other people's theories such as the MGS Zero and Chico is Quiet pretty much on a daily basis, leading to constant online hate against us personally that is totally uncalled for, especially when we've been proven more right than wrong. At 0:49, even you showed a Chico is Quiet comment next to our name, which can EASILY lead to further confusion among viewers.
When you face such unnecessary online hate, it's good to remind them what your channel has achieved, to the contrary of the misinformation they are spreading online. No ego or arrogance whatsoever, and anyone who follows our channel knows this. Just counter arguments to accusations against us :)
- PythonSelkan
thanks you for commenting pythonselkan, i hope you know i wasn't try to be disrespectful, i just had some observations and if I'm wrong i gladly apologize, personally i was just trying to show the controversy surrounding some of your epic analysis videos, and shed the light on both sides of the mgs community both "negative" and positive", i had to mention you because i felt it would be a injustice not give to names to who looked into these theories, we all asked and made them come to light, yourself included , especially the Ishmael not been real, i completely agree on that theory, and well dont hate on your channel i hope you continue to grow! cant say you would wish the same for me though. 😂😂 I'm looking forward to your death stranding 2 trailer analysis i doubt you will leave any stone unturned 👍 i dont advocates for haters or abuse on someone's channel those reddit comments was reference's to show the reaction you generated i should really of elaborated further, i was very surprised you went out of your way to hunt me down?, by the way you have some really good spies in your intel team!, i dont think it was necessary ( a channel at your level), nobody is trying destroy your image, you say "accusations" like its a political matter, there just simple opinions of redditors you cant reason with, people's say stuff all the time that's offensive, my job was to show the controversy regarding your theory's, not justify who was wrong and right, that's not my concern, and as for your channels the success speaks for itself really.
Good job voice box keep going in your msg videos I support you
Ngl this comment sounds pretty defensive but like a little too righteous and it just supports the little criticism the video did give you.
Like, if you're doing well, you usually don't go telling people "HEY IM DOING REALLY WELL, AND YOURE NOT" regardless of if they're internet trolls. Bro they're trolls, you just ignore those.
After the game came out and you said the game lied and it's actually greyfox was dumb.
I’m convinced Chico was meant to be quiet. But Konami and Kojima abandoned the theory before it could be made canon due to cancel culture becoming prominent at the time.
Kazuhira's real first name is Benedict and considering Hideo's knowledge of American history he would know of the infamous Benedict Arnold who was a turncoat and betrayed the U.S. to the redcoats whilst attempting to hand over westpoint fortress, fleeing into exile in Britain, but Benedict Miller, being more espionage savy, shifts the blame onto Huey who is exiled.
Benedict was his middle, first was McDonell. Although I guess we have no way of knowing for sure if that's his real name or just an alias.
A little thing that Skull Face and Big Boss have in common is their description of their past for Big Boss is the unofficial official biography Big Boss is half Japanese and was born in Hawaii he ends up losing his family to the Pearl Harbor attack “I was born in a small village, I was still a child when we were raided by soldiers, foreign soldiers….” “You left everything behind. Your country, your identity, your past and ideals…..” the similarities are hard to ignore if you think about it Big Boss also doesn’t mention his past to anyone where other characters will gladly tell you about themselves and how they got along with their parents he is our ghost without a past I could go on with Venom by saying the medicine he was injected with is meant to be given to people who survived heart attacks in the 80s and who do we know that suffered a heart attack before falling into a coma these little details are hard to ignore
Man I really need to stop making a habit of scrolling through comments at the start of videos and save it for the end instead. What a warzone.
Same holy shit lmfao
"Not just that, but the Man On Fire chose this time to wake up too," This always confuses me. Venom encounters The Man On Fire during the hospital escape. From the events of Snake Eater when BB takes out Volgin, through to the end of GZ when Mother Base is destroyed and BB enters his comatose stage, there is no Man On Fire but when Ocelot mentions this to BB after he awakens from the coma it's implied that BB knows of the Man On Fire. Is this just a narrative oops moment, or have I missed something?
1) Ocelot is the one who hypnotized Venom Snake
2) The drugs Snake administered to himself causes hallucinations according to his hallucination.
3) He apparently seeing things like flying whales on fire and the flower petals from Snake Eater's epilogue.
4) Volgin's body is in play somehow, Diamond Dogs recover it towards the end of the game after he gets squashed.
Do with those facts what you will. The whole hospital scene could be a fever dream while awake. Aftereffects of the hypnogogic therapy. Alot of things in that mission are strange when you really slow things down and think. There's even strong evidence to suggest all of Ground Zeroes is just the hypnosis process itself.
@venn7eance925, it is most possible that Big Boss kept track of Volgin after operation Snake Eater, it's important to remember that after the events of MGS 3, Big Boss worked with Major Zero for sometime, and he would certainly be the type to keep an eye on Volgin, he and Big Boss would certainly be aware of important information as Volgin still being alive but in a coma.
@RecluseBootsy it might have been the drugs but don't forget a young psycho mantis was there too so he surely atleast contributed if not actually caused the hallucinations.
iirc venom snake's waking from the coma coincide with young psycho mantis's flight in the middle of his transport nearby (about 1 miles north of venom snake) , young psycho mantis accidentally tuned into venom snake's negative emotions and caused young psycho mantis to crash the plane which landed close to a facility keeping volgin's remains, young psycho mantis is susceptible to getting controlled by negative emotions whoever has the strongest one in range
psycho mantis then tuned into volgin's thoughts for revenge on naked snake (likely because it's stronger) and assisted volgin to revive and turn into man on fire (MoF)
a week later MoF, guided by his lust for revenge and likely given/gotten the information through young psycho mantis, made his way to the hospital where venom snake and big boss is recovering, multiple parties tried to save big boss from MoF or any potential danger
tldr venom snake's initial awakening causes psycho mantis to crash his plane flight which landed near half-dead volgin then volgin's lust for revenge is very strong that it controls psycho mantis
and psycho mantis is moving volgin's body and power(s) under volgin's control
Quiet's "design" is always the topic of choice, yet no one ever talks about how when Quiet has her moments where she gets violent, beauty leaves their mind. She could kill all of Mother base, except for Ocelot and Venom. Yet while there's whats called down time, you forget how violent she can be because shes lovley. Its the same trick Zabuza used with Haku in Naruto. "No one expects a beautiful woman to be such a deadly asassin till its to late." -Zabuza
Kept you waiting huh? Sorry For being late but i had a lot of things to do at home lately. Im Happy to see another video of yours, i do agree with what you said about quiet. My personal take is that:
As long as the character is interesting, cool and well written then im gonna like it and i find quiet really well made. Peaple like to cry about everything so don't worry about haters. Keep up man can't wait for more
ahaaa we meet at last, no worries mate that's life always got us doing something, couldn't of said any better myself!, games are there to be enjoyed and take us on a cool journey, and forget the bs in the world sometimes 😂 😂, once again bro your pretty good and until we meet again, and keep mgs alive!
@@mycardboardbox hahahaha thanks mate, farewell
Excellent video man really opened my eyes to how kaz really betrayed big boss and Ishmael been part of venom snakes hallucinations made worse by mantis, the fight club was an amazing movie, that’s very similar to mgsv good job !
Quiet’s character is very intriguing but her design is just lazy, visually.
Lazy? You must not recall the BB Unit. 😂
@@RecluseBootsy I sure as hell don't. Least memorable terrorist group ever
Love how Hideo Kojima has that "keep em guessing" motif. I would love to see an anime series come to life following every title to precision
The craziest theory I’ve heard is that the events of MGSV never actually happened; it was all hypnagogia, based on contradicting statements from the prior saga. It basically says that Peace Walker is the real MGS5, and that afterwards, Big Boss eventually fires Kaz due to not trusting him anymore, and MSF eventually moves to South Africa and becomes Outer Heaven. Then BB barely manages to get himself out before it explodes in 1995, saves who he can, and relocates to Zanzibar Land.
Me personally, I don’t know what to think. When I first heard the theory I didn’t wanna believe it, but the evidence for it has me wondering…
I do believe Ground Zeroes didn't happen, but Phantom Pain I think has to happen for anyone to believe Venom is Big Boss, which Solid Snake at the very least believed.
The medic not becoming venom contradicts metal gear 1 since the guy you kill at the end is venom
pretty sure mgsv is real
but I heard that peace walker is meant to be mgs 5, and the V in mgsv is not a roman numeral and that it's a literal letter "v"
I like to think that most if not all of the MGSV missions are "pseudo-historical recreations."
They are things that mostly happened, kinda, probably at places that resemble the locations we visit, but not necessarily in those actual places, or in the time frame we are led to believe, and almost certainly not involving some of the people we are shown to be involved.
But I'm also drinking the "the Skullface and Kaz that we interact with in the game aren't real and are both reflections of Venom's fractured mind" kool-aid so I can probably be safely ignored.
Big Boss didn't abandon his comrades though. He gave Miller his Phantom, Venom Snake to go after XOF to avenge Paz, Chico, and MSF. While he went after the Zero and Cipher who caused the destruction of MSF albeit unintentionally. He's the reason Venom made it out of the hospital in the opening of V.
BB is definitely militaristic but I don't think he is a dictator. The opposite in fact BB always tried to live his life and do what he thought was right for others over himself.
I literally didn't pay attention to her in the beginning, I had no idea that was her
9:00 the problem is that form of quiet isnt necesary to his evolution. EVA had a reason to that, and Kojima made probably the best female character in the videogames history with The Boss, Quiet its far from those great characters of mgs3
The boss isnt a character
She's an exposition device
You’ve just recently been in my algorithm feed, and you def deserve more than 5k subs. You’re for sure one of the top 3 MGS channels I watch at this point.
Appreciate that
@mycardboardbox I haven't yet watched this video but I have saved it in my playing.
I post to you because I am looking for people to discuss what is known as the abiotic theory of oil and MGS 1 touched on this a'la the scientist who is one of the hostages you must rescue.
Have you heard of this theory?
It is the competing idea to the fossil fuel theory.
I was about 13 when MGS came out bur owned an N64 although I played it with friends and obviously in 97 and at that age the meeting with the scientist held no real world significance for me.
When I started working at 16 I bought a PlayStation and at about this time I played through the whole of MGS for myself for the first time.
By this time I was deep into the world of conspiracy theories and upon playing the game again the first thing that struck me was that D.A.R.P.A is involved in the plot and this is a real government agency of the US.
Then the scientist scene comes up and I realise that this is a conspiracy theory that i had recently come across which is the theory that oil is not a fossil fuel and that the energy companies and such know this.
The implications of this claim are pretty astounding I'm sure you appreciate, it is quite a claim.
From my understanding of this theory the biggest physical evidence, at the time, was from oil wells that had been drained years ago and which had seemingly refilled and there are arguments about why this may be and some of those arguments were from people who believed oil was abiotic.
Theoretically probably the biggest evidence for this that I was aware of is that there are claims that the amount of oil that we have pulled out of the earth must far outstrip the amount of plant matter needed to make it.
In about 2005 I read a New Scientist magazine that turned out to have an article in it about a discovery being made whereby a process to create synthetic fuel using a reaction between UV light and a certain type of blue-green algea was described.
MGS!
This all got really interesting in 2012 however when a Swiss experiment proved the abiotic theory of oil!
And it was never reported.
This is a crazy topic and I found it rather amusing that a video game from 97 contained such a lead to a conspiracy "theory" which is just mind blowing in nature.
I recently played Dues Ex which is lorded for its conspiracy theories but was unimpressed, it was written by someone who does not really understand too much from my point of view.
The crrators of MGS however do seem quite clever.
The codec conversations from MGS2 about information saturation is very insightful and MGS1s inclusion of the oil shenanigans is epic, just in terms of its inclusion as a plot device thst is both crazy and plausibly possible at the same time is a great piece of storytelling regardless of any real world implications or existence that is may have.
the connection between Ocelot and Liquids arm being the sorrow has always been my head canon since MGS 3
i had no idea other people catched on to that too
Man I fucking love metal gear solid and it makes me soo happy to see how many enjoy it who else is ready for metal gear solid delta snake eater p.s. love the video u really took my feelings and put them in words
i cant wait mate i think were all with you on that one!, bring on the mgs 3 remake!!!
What if the old mother base soldiers that we as venom snake rescues them from the wild is just his hallucinations of him saving them since he couldn’t even save them from the attack at the old mother base.
Given that the photo's we give to Paz come from those soldiers, it isn't too far a stretch to imagine that those missions and soldiers are also hallucinations.
@@venn7eance925 also it doesn’t make sense that the old motherbase soldiers are in afghan or Africa and able to survive in the wilderness without survival gear for nine years either so they should also be hallucinations just like paz.
Big Boss is Skullface is an interesting theory, though I'm not sure I buy it. Mostly due to the fact that Skullface gets trapped has a couple limbs shot off then killed, but I will admit with how much Venom is messed up throughout MGSV it's hard to be sure how much of what he sees and hears is real. As for Chico being scared of him that can be explained by it being dark and raining and just in general him being scared from all the torture he's been though. Also if skullface survived, even if only as Big Boss, I feel it would take away from the narrative of his absence being a sort of phantom pain in that characters still have this anger and vengeance mindset but now nowhere to direct it, and while I wouldn't say Hideo is the greatest writer ever I think he's good enough to realize how him surviving would hurt the narrative. I hardy consider two people saying similar or identical things is solid evidence of them being the same person. It is possible, I can't and won't dismiss it entirely, but I doubt it.
The limbs being shot off is directly Kaz doing to Skull Face what was done to Kaz, assumedly, correctly or not, at the orders of Skull Face. Being killed, well, that's the fate we all know awaits Venom isn't it? And eventually Big Boss as well
I like how you use some Silent Hill soundtracks, great video
Thanks!
Goddammit, the biggotry took me out of it. I am an lgbt person, and I agree with you about quiet. Would appreciate not being unnecessarily attacked out of nowhere. Good video overall, and a genuinely nice take on Quiet. Hope you do well.
i try judge people individually but given on so many negative experiences with the lgbt, it's naturally changed my opinion on the very movement, its not something i care to elaborate on, im sure you know why, i don't care what you believe that's your right to be you, but i find i get attacked for my opinion which isn't exactly love and equality, i get there's bad in right and left, but the left always prove my point, they can demonise me and when i do the same there rainbows turn into pentagrams, either way your probably a cool person, i hope you do well too
It’s well understood by now that Acceptance has always been the goal and a majority of people will agree and respect that desire. The issue many have with it is how many on Social Media, a majority typically being “Allies”, care more about “calling out” and “protecting the Oppressed” for THEIR BENEFIT than for everyone else’s. It’s the same that many on the Left will call out lots of Center/Right Wing commenters/pundits for albeit with the express purpose of “dunking on” them 🤷🏽♂️
All the dude in the video was expressing is how this sentiment and how hypercritical/hyperbolic much of the rhetoric is and how it’s actually starting to have the polar opposite effect: breeding animosity instead of enacting REAL Acceptance. If the Social Media landscape and the ESG Movement (aka “corporations pretending to care about Social & Political Movements to get paid by Investors”) wasn’t so aggressive and borderline partisan/hateful while simultaneously being far more understanding of the people who disagree with them that they want to reach (or, sometimes, claim to want), the world would be a far better place and that discontentment wouldn’t be a thing.
Until that day…it’ll always be each side calling the kettle black and cheering on each others’s losses while never making things better for the people actually suffering or being oppressed.
PS. Blame…
- Antonio Gramsche (for his methods being put into play today to make the world a far worse place)
- Saul Alinsky (for normalizing Grifting & Power Politics)
- Blackrock/Vanguard/State Street (for profiting off the plight of the LGBT Movement)
- BLM (for knowingly setting POCs’s plights, like myself, back by decades)
- Breadtube (for purposely closing a whole portion of the world off from one another by willingly being ignorant of their “opposition” by never researching things they disagree with…but WILL research something to refute it)
- and Grifters who constantly want us all to believe we’re boxed in and hated by others JUST FOR EXISTING…but never live by their words and get mad at the insistence they don’t.
It’s THEIR FAULTS for the “call outs” and it wouldn’t be happening if there wasn’t such toxicity behind the Marxist “Everything is Political” rhetoric that purposely makes people cynical about everything that isn’t within their worldview 🤷🏽♂️
I personally am ambivalent about these causes since I have a pair of eyes and see how miserable Politics makes people (and hide it by being smug), but I do respect anyone who’s brave enough to come out. However, one must remember this: you can’t FORCE it from anyone and even if they disagree/hate, that doesn’t mean they are dead to you/the world…but it only becomes true if one believes people can’t change. Because we all can 👍🏽
@@mycardboardbox it’s a bit odd your point is negative experience with people that are LGBT rather than acknowledging what it is about the person’s actions that made you not like them. a sample size of 100 is too small to even to decide that
Pretty much nailed my thoughts exactly which is a shame, because I really enjoyed the more recent Big Boss analysis video.
@@mycardboardbox What negative experiences? You get attacked by roving gangs of gay people? I think you have just consumed a ton of propaganda.
whats the music used in the intro?
I have a theory about MGS V. It's all a Netflix or some kind of other series. If you think about it, every time you start a new mission it says starring so and so and guest stars. Perhaps that is why some details are off and it is well known that Kojima is a big fan of movies and wanted to be a director.
there's a theory that the entire mgsv is venom snake recalling his memories acting as big boss and the only part that happens outside of the recollection is when venom snake is listening to the tapes that he got from the man who sold the world
and possibly just before venom snake fully in becomes "big boss" as he walks off to fight solid snake in mg1
MGS is such a fun game franchise, absolutely love 3,4 as my all time favorites but 5 is a great game even if David isn’t snake but Keifer is a good substitute as snake. Basically what I’m saying is that MGS 5 isn’t a bad game like everyone thinks or says it is in my opinion. On a side note, bring out the MGS 3 remake already so we can all rock it and go after that beautiful platinum trophy!!!
MGS5 has its problems but alot of them can be atleast partially blamed on the fact the game was never finished due to the falling out between Kojima and Konami. I enjoyed it despite it's problems and in the end foe me that's what's important in any form of entertainment.
This video makes my snake solid
I think that Kaz is working with cipher is the strongest theory out of these (as well as big boss not actually helping V out of the hospital). Kaz as a character seemed like he’d do anything for money and power (and later revenge). Ocelot despises how he used war as a business, and I am team Ocelot all the way.
just what i needed
About quiet, I really hate the fact that the working team of mgsV tried to find a valid and good reason why to make her fan service, yes I do think that her design is indeed fan service because from the burns she would atleast look "distorted" and I think that she breathes thru her skin makes no sense at all because she is deployed in sandy areas like afghanistan and the sand would rub on her skin which would be very bad for her and very hard to breathe and the fact that she can shower makes no sense, the water would basically pierce her skin and she would suffocate in the water but she does have a good character.
Thank you for defending quiet. I love her character and it genuinely broke my heart when she left she is so much more than just eye candy.
exactly my point
1:13:00 to be fair, the argument could be made he didn’t and just thought it was part of the whole coma and shrapnel/horn thing.
this is a great video but i’m about half way through, and i can’t get over you using “was” and “is” in the place “were” and “are” lol ❤
For the algorithm
What a mind fuck. I knew there was a reason I hated Kaz. Thanks for the video.
Skull Face being some kind of mental twin of Big Boss doesn't make the slightest sense to me. SF was the leader of the unit that destroyed MSF, on orders from Cipher. So according to that theory, the dark side of BB really destroyed his own PMC?!
Not on Cypher's orders, but yes, Big Boss's dark side destroyed what he built because he is a pariah, a war monger. They also have Venom, another dark reflection of what Big Boss *will* become, kill a bunch of his own soldiers to more directly make this point.
@@nathanstruble2177 Isn't it confirmed that XOF attacked MSF on orders from Cipher? The motive being that MSF refused to be used by Zero.
How do you explain SF and BB being in different places then? For example in GZ, SF is in a helicopter while BB is entering the base. And why do the other characters talk about SF in a way that shows he's a different person? Simply doesn't make any sense.
I can't see a reason to believe in such a far fetched theory.
Venom killed his own men because he had to. He took responsibility and performed an extremely difficult task, because there was no other option. They needed to take care of the virus outbreak.
Excellent Video my dude 😎😎😎👍
thank you my guy 👍 👍
Huey got boated because he told snake that santa is fake
Paz wanted to protect BB. Katz and Huey were only ever out for themselves.
I love beautiful women and I'm proud of it. It's absolutely fine to incorporate something or someone you like into a piece of art you are making. Hideo has nothing to be ashamed of and I'm proud of him.
Jfc I don't understand how you can make such long videos but despite that, have such a poor grasp of both pronunciation and syntaxes of said language
i don't understand why people like you exist but sadly you do 👍
@@mycardboardboxno offense dawg but you made a long comment when people said you went on a long tirade for no reason and called yourself sigma.
@@trashypunkman7559he probably has a tiny ego
@@B3ardd almost definitely and like I skipped the quiet controversy part and like whats crazy is its otherwise not that bad of a video its just a long tirade about sjws that makes this video so bad lol.
@trashypunkman7559 you do know that's not his comment right....
Nice its getting out there. I go in depth with the D.I.D theory so its nice to see its catching on. Your missing a few things though.
Without no clothing? Meaning fully clothed?
great video, i really enjoyed your summarization of the theories, but you really fucked up saying Guillermo Del Toro’s name lol, keep up the good work tho, you make good content
Chico lookin like frank jaeger
Maybe a little but Frank was older than Chico was when he dies at the time of Portable Ops so it's not likely even though there is debate over whether or not PO is canon.
I love the content, but “contribuiating” is not a word 47:03
I posted this comment to someone else, but wanted to post this outside of a reply:
Lol I just find that her being almost naked looks so silly and ridiculous. MGS always has silly and ridiculous, exaggerated characters, so it's par for the course, but it just seems especially dumb for such an elite and capable soldier to be running around, lol for all intents and purposes naked, fighting in the harsh environment of the desert against all sorts of overly equipped enemies. I think it's a perfect example of where fan service just completely disrupts your suspension of disbelief and could be done so much better if it wasn't so explicit. You can make a character super attractive and sexy, male or female, without appearing like a jackass in the middle of war zone,. Lol Imagine if Venom snake ran around in a speedo for the entire game, during all the dramatic cut scenes, trying to depict stoicism and pathos, with his package bulging and jiggling for the camera everytime he moved lmao. Or worse yet, imagine skull face looking like that lol. It would be impossible to take seriously and would completely take you out of the story. And of course, it just seems like pandering to horny boys so it's not surprising it pisses off people whether they are fans of the series or not.The extremely nuanced and rich commentary of the metal gear solid games are hurt by such depictions in my opinion and are one of my main criticisms of the series. The first metal gear solid did it best in my opinion, as the fantastical wasn't so explicit as to ruin the relative sense of realism.
Quiet isn’t “eye candy”, she’s a dentist.
Funny how Quiet has better characterization than 90% of women characters in video games. Super deep character and strong/capable as well. Anyone who has a problem with her must have a problem with genuinely interesting and attractive women in real life.
To be fair it's not often one sees a woman walking around in a bikini everywhere
Quiets cool but her entire character is just soldier was bad but now breathe through skin and is not bad look at boobs. Definitely just kojima being a horndog but he's always been a horndog and it wouldn't be metal gear without that.
Then why couldn’t they make the character, but with clothes? If she’s just meant to be attractive but skilled and deadly, she could do so while clothed. Think Jill Valentine, Joanna Dark, and Laura Croft. All wearing clothes, and STILL strong, beautiful, capable women.
A copypasta right?
I actually am one of the people who believe the Chico is quiet theory. But what I believe happened was that it was the original intention, but was shelved because cancel culture was really starting at the time. So they abandoned it before it could be made canon
I love Kojima and his work, but he does have misogynistic views if he cannot see and understand why people don’t like the over-sexualized female characters he makes. The reason for Quiet being mostly nude was just a shallow cover for why she was almost nude throughout the game. The fact that you can give her the Sniper Wolf outfit, which has no negative effect on her abilities at all, shows that she did not need to be exposed, and it was done simply as a gratuitous bit of fan service. And your assumption that anyone who thinks this way has a “liberal LTBTQ” mindset is just ignorant. Women on all sides are tired of being objectified, and men are tired of seeing them objectified and used for their bodies. You can make a strong, capable woman character without making her strip down to nothing. Your biases are on full display here, and your viewpoint is rooted in the misogyny that built this horrible section of society. This is not a conspiracy, but your attempt at taking jabs at anyone who wants to take away your waifus from games.
People aren't tired of it at all. Stellar blade for example was the best selling game on ps5 at release month and pulled people in while pretty much every game with the new liberal view is failing. Concord for example has pretty much only "politically correct" women and is already failing in the beta phase with like 1200 people playing as a all time high.
Then you also have absolutely negative reception of games like the newest fable due to the character they used in the trailer or the latest failure called flintlock the siege of dawn.
Also worth mentioning are these gacha games who pretty much only make money by selling good looking characters and make tons of money that way.
You can say that you personally don't like it but that people are tired of it is just objectively wrong. I also don't see how Kojima has misogynistic views, he created way better written female characters than whatever these modern activists try to create while actively attempting to elevate women.
When are you going to accept that people just like seeing beautiful people?
It always come back to the same thing with you commies, it is nature and reality themselves that are the target of the revolution but you will never be God.
When Marxists can levitate and shoot laser beams out of their eyes and stuff THEN we will accept that your ideology could work.
When you can perform sorcery your ideologies time will have come but not before then.
We cannot possibly begin to implement your ideology until we have the power to change or negate the laws of physics and reality itself.
When you can do thst I will accept your socialism as a possibility.
Until then reality is king.
@@lordsoros627literally no one is saying it isn't about enjoying beautiful people. The issue is the claims to the contrary. Kojima claiming we "would be ashamed of our words and our deeds" rang entirely hollow when it was revealed she was half naked because Kojima likes seeing pretty half naked women. If you like pretty women, and want to put pretty women in your game, just be honest about it. No one had any issues with 2B from Neir:Automata, because the guy most associated with that game's development openly admitted he just likes pretty women.
@@lordsoros627also of note, humans can fucking FLY now, we literally walked on the damned MOON! The idea that "nature" still rules is willfully ignorant.
"Oh no! A straight man likes attractive women!"
Nobody cares dude.
crazy how all it takes for people to get upset is an attractive woman simply being in a video game
tell me about it .... what's has this world become where everyone's so easily offended 😂
The Average Beta Male : NOOOO QUITE IS TO SEXY
Me the Average man with Intellgenz : Sniper Wolf,Eva, Fortune,the Beauty and the Best Squad . Alle of them dressed Sexy all of them Are Strong Charakters . The BB squad not . There was never a Word abou these but yeah only modern Soyboys complaing about this
couldn't agree more
Definitely agree
I'm gonna keep watching for a bit to see if this continues or not, but the Quiet bit at the beginning is basically just "LiBrUls BaD". Skip that at the very least. There were points to be made but the author just couldn't stop himself from changing the topic from "Quiet is more of a character than the controversy" to "grr liberals," practically spitting on the floor every time he used the word lol
Edit: having seen the way the author carries himself in the comments, I do not respect him. The other bits of the video I watched don't go so hard into his cuckery, but that Quiet part is definitely who he is, which is disheartening, because I love this kind of content
you are confronted with a single video that isn't bread-tube adjacent vg content and your first reaction is "this guy is bad bad no no guy". I think it's great that there's a political gamut on long form vg content and I put up with PLENTY of other videos unironically talking about the virtues of Marxism and how everything is sexist, filled with critical theory and deconstructionist slop. I don't start a political flame war in the comments when I see that, I just recognize that it's not directed toward me or my kind of content. My political views and values aren't so fragile that I have to protect them from any kind of counter discourse by immediately acting in bad faith and getting upset about it. The more ubiquitous leftist branded liberalism becomes, the more you are going to see critiques of it, especially given how utterly it has ravaged and destroyed the gaming industry, so you should get used to people being far, far more vocal about their dislike of it in the coming years, and you should welcome it as proof that those views (yours) are now the status quo.
@@Zarnubius ok? You found a guy who thinks like you. Cool
Keep scrolling the comment section "Hombre"
Hem... I mean...
Keep looking for the Truth Punished "Venom" Snake.
Really have to make this a “liberal” thing. For fuck sake man. Ridiculous.
you're ridiculous, femboy grow some bollocks
Maybe listening to other side only goes one way with you. Only you want to be listened too? It can’t go both ways with your type.
@@mycardboardboxironic coming from you
Another thing i never understood was the Body Double Controvercy .
What well will play a Body at some point in time was Known at what point im time for at least nearly roughly 20 years as this twist was Reveald all the way back in Metal gear 2 Solid Snake who at what point in Time was released in the HD collection any Person who had Rough Knowledge about Metal knew this the Moment the Trailer said the last piece in the Metal gear Saga so i really never got this controvercy in the first place
I haven't played MG2 in a while but I don't remember anything mentioning a double in it. If anything it supports the lack of a double by claiming Big Boss had parts of his body replaced with cybernetics, say parts that were caught in an explosion or shrapnel thrown out by the explosion. Granted that's an optional radio call an could just be a non Canon Easter egg referencing another game Kojima made.
@@GrimmShadowsII this was revealed in the final battle Against Big boss at the end
Chico is Gray Fox
d horse is big boss
Gray fox is FUCKING RHODESIAN. Not Nicaraguan
This guy is literally that one meme "now you liberals can reflect on your woke sky"
I can like metal gear and still admit that it has some issues. It's so lame to be like "oh of course it's reddit dude, like cmon liberals." It's just fun to theorize about things even if it's a far stretch. People talking about the game gets more engagement and more people playing the games we love so much. Let people have fun and stop blaming things you don't like on "woke" mindsets. I can agree that the chico is quiet theory is lame but it's just people in the community trying to rationalize why such a pivotal character is just missing from the second half of mgsv, and regardless of how dogshit the theory is it raises a good question of "where exactly did chico go?"
Kaz is big boss lil love affair
Bro brought lgbt into for absolutely no reason 😭
run along he/she there some pro communists over there
@ do you have any idea how many lgbtq+ mgs fan there are??? Have you not played peace walker bro???
@@Thugpacshaker Listen to basically every sentence he says in this video.
The dude has an obvious agenda and brings up liberals up every moment he can.
so psyho mantis was Ishmail
cool
Take that librals!!
The Quiet controversy is stupid. This is Metal Gear, everyone is gay, so no one even cares about her physique. You don't have to be straight to admire a woman's beauty
Come to think of it... I don't recall anyone whining about Raiden doing no-handed cartwheels while cradling his junk in his hands... 😅
@@RecluseBootsy Especially not us
Every time someone says this game is unfinished, just respond with "so was the Tower of Babel." 😉
If you know, you know. If you don't, keep diving down the MGSV rabbithole.
The diamond dogs logos are only there because they reused the motherbase containers
All these heterophobic people should be ashamed. Quiet is an amazing character and all of her sexiness is secondary to her badassness. Let us straight people be who we are.
One example of this is the fact that when you use her in the game, unlike the walker gear or ddog or the horse, you don't even see her for the most part, and her skill is superhuman, basically she's stronger than any of the male soldiers in the game, sans venom
Heterophobia isn't a fucking thing
@@thenexus8384 if heterophobia isn't a thing that neither is homophobia
@@badazzmaro agreed destroyed his logic 😂 😂
Right so this guy pulls the idea that people hate quite because they’re gay liberals completely out of his ass and anyone calling him out for it is heterophobic? can’t you see how hilariously ironic this is?
some people not liking quite because they think she’s just fan service is just what those people think, not every single opinion is based on the American political system
I’m politically progressive but cant stand all the virtue signaling and tokenism that goes on in modern entertainment. Armchair activists.
It really is patronizing. Like christians who are christian in name only, not in practice. Down to the "rules for thee and not for me" bullshit.
I mean Quiet is sexualized.....
Wait, no facts to probe that Quiet character is sexist as fuck? C'mon mate
I LOVE Kojima and MGS but Quiet is sexist, if that's good or bad i leave it for others.
Deeper meaning xD
🌈 sure thing cuckhold 👍keep blindly watching your garbage tv media feeding you garbage narratives about TOXIC MEN and how everythings a white persons fault 😂 baaaaaa
nothing sexist at all real men love sexy women always will that's how babies are born, not by your genz logic run along dweeb try eat a steak lift some weights gtfo my channel
Is Raiden sexist AF as well in your opinion? He showed a lot more skin than quiet a few times and runs around in a skin tight suit throughout the whole game
I 100% Guarentee that the dislikes come from people regarding the first Quiet section of the video, Why cant women just be sexy? Is there something wrong with a mean lean killing machine also being sexy? And how canonically the reason for her being naked is because she photosynthesizes like a plant? Besides actual gamers love this game, i've seen so many actual female gamers who play MGS5 who love quiet as a character. People who hate Quiets design and personality arent real fans.
indeed they are you can thank political correctness for that, and some of the brainwashed who think a man appreciating a woman's beauty is wrong, but there's actually a good reason for her "nakedness", its just screams insecurity, people who act ashamed to be human because the media feeds them lies, ive been called homophobic for this video, which shows how delusional they are, im a you tuber and will try keep it professional but when there's bs i have to call it out
The reason it's annoying is bc it's shoehorned in, and it's pandering. There was no reason to go off on some "ugh libruls" tirade to make a serious point like that.
It diminishes what he was trying to say, and it's no different than when you see "woke" bs shoehorned into a show for the sake of pandering.
It's just him crying about it for no reason. It's weak snowflake stuff
This whole thing about Kojima hating wome is stupid, every single woman in the metal gear franshise is some kind of badass, or genius, even the B&B unit were an elite spec op unit. Meanwhile half the men or more are utterly useless, however charming Johnny may be. If thats the writing of a misogynist then wtf do yall think of normal people
I think most of the women are more "pure", manipulated or used as a tool
what I meant as "pure" is that they're not fooling themselves into fighting for a twisted reason, like pure emotion like loyalty, revenge, etc
and they usually know they are in the wrong and accepted it
while the males characters are usually the one that twist things, like zero trying to make a legend using big boss, or ocelot, big boss and kaz using venom snake for their purpose abusing venom snake's loyalty
idk, but it might be a intentional that the boss is depicted as pure and forgotten while those left behind mostly males such as zero, ocelot and bb interpreted the boss's will in each of their own ways
and that it would've continued getting more twisted if solid snake never decided to break off, only because big boss underestimated solid snake
comfy and based, thank you voice-sama
Quiet is degenerate and takes away from the game. Very very silly.
so is solidus fan boy he couldn't even defeat the patriots 😂 and got bodied by Raiden at federal hall very very silly
@@mycardboardbox How old are you
@@Tehgamerstationhow old are u getting but hurt over a video game character’s design
@@rose_felloff It's not me getting hurt. She only hurts the game itself.
@@Tehgamerstation control your hormones dawg it’s not that hard to control your emotions
I’ve loved these games since 1998 and can admit that Quiet is a terrible character and Kojima’s explanation is also weak. Maybe he didn’t mean that but his portrayal of the only female character is clearly indicative of his true views on women. You can provide a deep female character with back story without making her wear that outfit and explain it with that bullshit story. Grow up.
idgaf what you like cya
Fortune, eva,Sniper wolf the Beauty and the beast squad .
All of them Are Woman . All wear exposing clothes but Quite no she wears to less . Fortune Wears a Rubber body , Eva wears a Cat Suit with open Zipper , Sniper wolf has a Boob window
Sterling MGS content once again voicebox
These comments rule lol
Man gives an opinion….”hOmoPHobiA”
😂😂🏳🌈
Don’t listen to the morons. Everything is a phobia and oppression when is convenient for them.
He could’ve given his opinion in a very eloquent way and I agree with his view on the character, people aren’t calling him homophobic because he likes quiet, they’re calling him homophobic because of what he said and how he replies to criticism in the comments,
it can be really jarring for people to watch a video on a games conspiracy theories and get hate thrown at them from nowhere, and that applies to anyone not just the “LGBT liberals”
@@Schlawg788 CEO of yappin over here!
@@mattw731 I do quite enjoy yapping
look long thing short, it’s his video he can say whatever he wants and it’s your comment you can say whatever you want but if you say something blatantly inflammatory and hateful just own up to it, he can be homophobic that’s his choice but don’t act like a child who got cough with his hand in the cookie jar and act innocent
W video bra
Based video