I think that the one, very important skill, that i got, from watching zour videos, is never to jump to conclusions. allways check everything even a little. even if it is logical to me. And I am thankfull to you for that! Its so easy to hear what you want and just believe it.
exactly. my PhD mentor used to say, when running experiments be skeptical of results you didn't expect and be MORE skeptical of results you expected. our minds are just too treacherous :)
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What's sobering is that so many YT doctors finish medical school, pass the relevant medical board exams and then practice medicine on other humans, yet they have this fundamentally and deeply flawed way of reasoning...
Well actually, fasting (especially long term fasting) is incredibly healing. It kicks your body into autophagy. Now if you care to look it up you will see the scientist who discovered autophagy won a Nobel Prize.
Our ancestors needed a diet that kept them alive long enough to reproduce. That’s essentially 15 to 25 years old. Lots of diets can do that. I’m concerned with what keeps me healthy for 80 or 100 years.
Im 49 year old and at 47 I had a heart attack and double bypass surgery. I was not extremely overweight. Infact the doctors could hardly believe that at my age I needed open heart bypass surgery. When I went for my Cardiac Catherization and the cardiac doctor told me they could not stent the arteries that where blocked because there was too much blockage well I felt completly helpless...in that moment I thought ok well what does the future hold for me. I have 2 kids and realised that i may not get to see them grow old and see grand kids...It was a hard reality to accept. After heart bypass surgery and From that day on I've been on a mission to get my body into a healthier state. I was almost 210lbs not that heavy but for my frame it was definetly not healty and now keeping my weight at around 160lbs. I have cut back on eating meat, specially red meat and not more processed meat. I was a huge huge huge meat eater!!! I could eat a whole pot roast to myself and ate alot of deli meats. Since then I've intruduced alot fruits and veggies..they make up probly 3/4 of my plate at every meal and try to replace animal protein with others like Tofu, beans and legumes. Im basically following the mediterranean diet at the moment. My Dr tells me my LDL is better than excellent so I must be doing something right...of course because of my heart disease I will be taking meds for my heart the reste of my life....Even with the bypass surgery I still have blocked arteries in my heart so it's up to me to make sure that I am informed and follow the best diet for my heart. We are all so mixed up about what is healthy these days...This dr says eat all meat and that one says be a vegan, the other one is saying eat a bit of everything....very frustrating and confusing for people. I have to admit that I somtimes fall prey to the Carnivore diet videos that i see posted online because...well alot of Doctors are saying that the keto or carnivore diet is the best of the best....well is it the best for people like me?? I cant imagine that eating only meat is good long term for anyone... Anyway just want to Thank you for the video here It was very informative and I enjoyed watching it.
@@shadowmann9Caffeine itself is an evolved pesticide. Fermenting and heating the coffee beans doesn't remove the caffeine to the point of rendering it inert. Despite its caffeine content there is a decent body of evidence indicating that black coffee itself is a net positive for all cause mortality.
I’m so thankful for you. You keep me sane in this world of ever changing nutrition theories. Each time I’m about to get lost in a rabbit hole, your sensibilities pull me back. God bless you and keep you. Thank you for all you do!
Thank you for taking on the “ancestral diet” arguments. I’m an archaeologist, and this drives me wild. Prehistoric peoples ate whatever they could derive food value from, including a lot of things we absolutely wouldn’t eat today. Whether or not that diet was “ideal” was not up for discussion, the question was would it get you to tomorrow, next week, next year. And over the millennia people have adapted to a wide range of environments which provide very different ranges of food choices. While the basic nutrients we all need is fairly consistent, the idea that there is one ideal diet that everyone will thrive on is (in my opinion, at least) pretty ridiculous.
@@sbxftr A variety of insects. Mice, rats and such, small birds. Pretty much every part of every animal - including eyes and internal organs. Granted, there are people currently around who still eat many of these things, but the average mainstream modern human wouldn’t consider them remotely edible.
@@anna9072what does that have to do with their nutritional value though? Just because they aren’t modern foods doesn’t mean that they are bad for us. Those are very nutritious parts of an animal. The prehistoric diet is all about what nature provided for us, because biology has evolved for organisms to exist in an environment where every nutrient we could ever need is available, and we are genetically coded to crave foods with these nutrients. Early humans ate all of the right foods, the foods that we needed, because that was all that they had
But they are edible though right? So its because of culture and not nutritional value that we have abandoned these foods. I grew up in a culture where we ate a lot of these things (not mice, but I had friends whose families ate mice) and now it appears humans made a mistake in abandoning these foods after all, especially organ meats. As the other poster stated, we can argue that our bodies evolved to survive on these same foods that our prehistoric ancestors ate. And now that we have so radically changed our diets, is it any wonder that we're dealing with some many weight related issues?
Conversely, most of what is found in supermarkets today was not available 100 years ago, and further back. That, and most available meats are leaner, as the fatty megafauna is gone.
AGREE! Would love to hear these two to sit down by the table, drink some tea (or bone broth in Saladino’s case lmao) and have a polite 1on1 scientific discussion😍
@@Jericho363 you’ve got great attitude tbh, don’t let yourself down! I’m vegan myself, literally been following the exact diet of Dr. Gil’s and have no complains whatsoever. But it’s also ok to eat some animal products like you do! Just do as Gil advises: mostly plant-based, whole food diet with some animal products (hence, the meditteranean diet) is very productive and sustainable, in terms of scientific evidence. Hahah dude I’d also like to persuade Saladino to debate/talk to Gil. Agree, I also think Gil’s arguments are much more comprehensive and are based on SOLID scientific evidence. Saladino is a psychiatrist and is notorious for biased, irrelevant and cherry-picked argumentation. Nice to talk to you!✌🏽
@@Jericho363 Dont really understand your need for Paul to be shamed for his point of views. As for looking at 1 video when hes talking to joe rogan who isn't a doctor maybe be his best choice and was probably the wrong way to approach it. But still doesn't make his belief or claims less valid. Instead i think Gil is on the right track here by saying what it the over all general health from doing whatever diet you are doing/promoting. And dont think relying souly on science is a good idea either since back in the days hysterical women was recommended to smoke to calm down. Science always moves forward but only thanks to open conversation and ideas not by shaming people or playing on emotions.
@@Jericho363 No need to feel embarrassed or shame you came back with good points and humble approach so in my book no need to apologize for anything. Was nice talking to you and have a good weekend.
It seems like...just stay away from processed foods, junk food, eat clean meats, fruits and vegetables. Our ancestors definitely ate that, they didn't drink Mountain Dew or eat Chips Ahoy, or 90% of things included in the SAD.
Uh... processing food is how we make plants safe to eat due to our lack of a fermenting gut... so we need to process through external digestion like fermentation, cooking, marination, mechanical tenderization, etc..
This channel is real gem. So rare to find a channel that prioritizes intellectual rigor and integrity, by placing the methodological tools of Science in the hands of viewers. This short-fall is the work of viewers themselves, because most of them don't know the difference.
Beautiful display of intellectual honesty, rigour and a deep understanding of the scientific method and mindset as well as clear expertise on the current literature. Truly great work! I find so many videos and people I know make arguments based on weak sources or their feelings, so this is a breath of fresh air.
One thing about what we are not considering is the genetic variability of the populations, which means that some people may respond better to one diet than to another depending on their genes. It is difficult to find studies that consider this possibility.
Nor that fact that some people react more to plant defense molecules than others. It's like saying bread and gluten are fine because population data says it's fine.
That's probably true for most people. I have low cholesterol, I want to reduce it even more with statins but I heard that statins can convert soft plaque into hard plaque. Even though, hard plaque is safer than soft plaque, soft plaque can be reversible but hard plaque can't and will increase your risk for increasing your blood pressure since arteries become less elastic. Any advice?
The guy says his arterial plaque score is zero, but I've heard it isn't the hard plaque that shows up on the test that is dangerous, but the soft plaque that doesn't show up on the test, that is the dangerous plaque. Great discussion! I'm suspicious of clinical studies where phamaceutical companies are involved.
its rare to find someone whos objective on youtube or the internet i really enjoy how you approach your videos and the way you explain everything so the average joe can understand i very much appreciate your videos keep up the good work and thank you for bringing some evidence based arguments to these kind of videos
This guy is it. I’ve been waiting for someone this reasonable and measured for so long. I’m not sure how I haven’t found you up until this point. What a relief
Love your content! There's so many unfounded claims out there which in turn influence so many people. Your line of thinking objectively and asking the right questions should be on the national curriculum.
Came to this chamel when you were talking about game changers. And all this time after, I can only say thank you for all the effort and time put into these videos. I seriously believe that you promote the correct attitude and mentality towards nutrition science. Thank you Gil
From what I understand, the “processing” methods of foods like grains legumes etc were done much differently by our ancestors. Involved soaking and fermenting the grains and making them as nutrient dense as possible and always coveting the fat and organs of the animals. What’s your take on that?
certainly possible, and also possible (and likely) that both animals and plants are not the same as they used to be in the ancestral environment (have been extensively bred etc), those differences emphasize how uninformative the presumed ancestral habits are for our modern dietary choices, and in contrast how modern studies are by far the best heuristic since they look at the effect of modern foods in defined conditions
@@NutritionMadeSimple just stumbled upon your channel and I love your content and how you interact with your viewers.. responding on a Saturday? Respect!! That makes a lot of sense.. I always wonder when people make the comparison of our ancestors eating so much animal fats, i assume it certainly wasn’t cows but more so buffalo, elk, deer etc that were completely foraging on more than just grass (berries, moss, etc) meat these days even if pasture raised probably wouldn’t be nearly as healthy?
@@jackg5278 I've seen papers guess-timating ancient prey at ~7% saturated fat (extremely lean). so yeah wild deer *might* be in the neighborhood but commercial cattle likely way off. the sparse data on grass-fed animals suggests few if any differences from grain fed... (I touched on it in one of the game changers videos)
This is the type of doctor I need and what we all need! Most of these debate videos are just cringe, but you absolutely helped me think more about this, and gave me hope. Thank you!
And I felt _terrible_ the moment I stopped drinking! Never doing that again. Why would nature design a molecule that's naturally present in fruits that's harmful to us? It makes no sense.
Gil, I can't believe your channel isn't the de facto go to health channel on TH-cam. Your ability to help us see with objectivity on both sides of the fence and navigate all this noise of "eat this, not that" is astounding. I get that alot of this stems from human psychological fallacies (rampant in political siding, my religion is best because... , online money making gurus selling $5000 courses to name but a few) but to have people like yourself willing to commit the time/effort and present super clear info for the rest of us is truly a blessing. Just wanted to say how grateful I/we are!
Huge contribution to understanding dietary advice in regards of Lipids. Really. Thank you. I've been struck with all these self proclaimed 'carnivore' doctors in the past few months and I love your 'from the ground up' approach. Thank you for comparing the different types of studies and ranking them in the terms of significance. I'm a biologist in the making and this is helping me to understand science and scientific publications.
As a non native speaker, I don't usually fully understand educational videos like these especially when it's about nutrition. But my brain just digested your videos super easily that I didn't have to pause the video not even once. I immediately subscribed by the end of it lol.
I've been falling into the carnivore rabbit hole these last few days and this video is, without a doubt, the best one I've seen as it pertains to arguing the facts against some of the fantastical claims. Really liked that it was informed by the evidence but also that you recognised the lived experiences of people who may feel better on a certain diet. Great work. New subscriber here for sure.
I was in a similar boat - not full carnivore, but eating a lot of meat under the influence of certain things seen on TH-cam. I was convinced, based on a previous attempt, that I could get enough energy from a plant-based diet. This channel, and, especially, Plant Chompers, which I thnk is one of the all-time great TH-cam channels, have completely turned things around for me. I'm fully plant-based now, it's working and I feel great.
@@JohnMoseleyWhy jump from one extreme to the other? Animal products have their place in a healthy diet as well. It's simply important to maintain the appropriate ratios.
@@BasedChadman The way I'm eating now doesn't feel like an extreme, though obviously I understand why you use the term. It's only an extreme to me in that it's extremely satisfying. I don't miss or feel deprived of anything. I originally switched mainly for health and environmental reasons under the influence of Plant Chompers, but since then I've watched a lot of Earthling Ed and I agree with him that I can't see a reason to kill or harm an animal for food if I don't need to. His debates on college campuses on the ethics of this are the best source I've found on this and I recommend them.
@@googanslayer6675 the moment people bring up calorie count I really can’t help but think “eating disorder”, it should be about nutrients. calories are only one part of nutrition. think about all the nutrients you can and can’t get from a carnivore (and vegan) diet
Finally! I found a channel where someone looks at the evidence and drops all the BS and just calls it like it is, with no skin in the game one way or the other. Truth. No BS or hype. I like this guy's stuff so far.
Man I love your videos! Thanks for this. My nephew sent the podcast to me because I don’t eat meat. I was always looking for a response to that podcast and am glad I found yours.
A population study can be helpful as a general guide but on an individual basis the conflicting opinions from different doctors can be very helpful. For instance I chose keto, reduced my A1C, lost 30+ lbs, increased hdl, and reduced tgl. My LDL is still high. Therefore I am now reducing saturated fat, adding more salads and berries to my diet. We'll see what the results are in a few months but my expectation is an improvement in all areas. Watching these videos has also tipped me off that vegetable oils were causing inflammation. Since removing from my diet, Acne is dramatically improved and my developing arthritis has improved. A population study would say vegetable oils are not inflammatory but for me it is. Key point: educate yourself and do what's best for you.
Thats a very wise approach I believe a ketogenic lifestyle is healthy for the majority but every person is different so it's best people educate themselves and adapt as they move forward because there's no one diet that is perfect for everyone. I think as long as we cut out ultra processed foods we can't go far wrong
We have known ( at least in Europe) for years that saturated fats are bad for health. The US has one of highest levels of obseity in the world, which is not surprising when one looks at the diet of the average America.
I went on a low-carb, mostly plant-based diet and noticed that my total cholesterol fell from 147 to 99 mg/dl, and my LDL from 70 to 37 mg/dl over a period of 6 weeks. Precisely, I cut out sugar completely and replaced it by the amino acid glycin and I cut out all starchy foods. Also, I cut out all animal-based foods except having salmon 2 or 3 times a week. And I cut out all plant oils except olive oil, of which I took several table spoons daily. Protein sources were: plenty of nuts, tofu, lentils, beans, and salmon. I drank plenty of cacao (prepared with nut milk or soy milk plus glycin), matcha green tea, breakfast was mostly a mixture of fruits with ground seeds (chia, flax seed, pumpkin seed, sesame) and nut milk, plus a big glass of cacao. Lunch mostly lentil soup or beans and a big salad. Dinner either tofu with veggies or salmon and veggies. Overall, I did not lose weight (6'3, 225 lbs, muscular), I did feel well however felt that my body did miss animal products (especially eggs and dairy). I'm now back on a mixed diet and added some eggs, 1 glass of cow's milk daily, and occasional chicken again. Feeling better with this, but have not yet checked my cholesterol again.
@@tenmillionvolts You are right, about sugar. but nonetheless the evidence is well known for years that saturated fat is not good for you. Like everything it depends on your age, physical activity and metabolism. My philosophy is moderation in everything.
Great breakdown. Really appreciate this. There is so much completely contradictory evidence out there, it's damn near impossible to wade through at this point.
Ah, yes, but did you know water can kill you, therefore we should avoid water (#sarcasm). But technically water can result in death if you drink too much as it screws up the bodies levels. But obviously, it's rare. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1770067/
Fluoride in the water. Plastics in plastic water bottles. I see your point….. but we live in such a corrupt world we are being poisoned from every direction that even water is a no no 😂
I've been petting racoons in my yard during the day, and I gotta say they avoid water. They are part of nature and I think they're onto something. Ever since I stopped drinking and almost.... fearing water, I get this really cool foam sensation in my mouth that wards off predators. Isn't nature great??
Excellent review of the topic. Very well articulated and it's great you have a strong understanding of how research methodology is so important for interpreting outcomes.
I would respect somebody MORE for realising their mistakes and actually addressing the most up to date info. Rather than someone rigidly sticking to an agenda.
The more I watch Gil’s videos the more I like them. He is fair and respectful. I don’t agree with all of his conclusions regarding saturated fat and cholesterol but he does provide useful analysis.
His conclusion comes from literally the most objective look at the scientific consensus You’re free to disagree with it, but an apple will fall when you toss it up
Doc, you speak so clear and easy to understand. When I watch a lot of videos on this subject, people keep throwing random terms and mention random things without explaining, it made me so confused
Another one bites the dust!. Got me hooked when you said, "I can get all the essential nutrients from a combination of junk food and pills, doesn't mean it's a healthy diet". I don't give a rat as on Dr.Saladino's claims.
@@yingyang1008 There are edible plants, berries and mushrooms in most if not all European forests, no reason to think your particular forest would be any different. You might have to do some research and look around a bit more as they're not quite as visually obvious as a deer.
@@yingyang1008 I didn't suggest you source your entire caloric intake from those things. You said "I grew up next to a forest in Europe, I can't think of anything that could be gathered". I replied that you probably weren't looking very hard since forests contain heaps of edible plants and fungi. You seem to have trouble reading I guess. Maybe it's the lack of phytochemicals in your diet? lmao
@@yingyang1008 There wouldve been a completely different distribution of all different kinds of trees and shrubbs, including possibly a bunch that have gone extinct due to the heavy deforestation and forestry in europe. Also i think youre underestimating heavily what nature can produce. A single chestnut tree gives 50Kg chestnuts. And people back then werent so stupid not to store that stuff. Because they actually did store seeds before inventing agriculture. You can find roots all year long. And gathering that stuff will make you use up far less kalories than hunting. Than you have that whole thing about storing energy as body fat. We dont need to constantly eat 2000 cal to survive. If humans have a shelter and there is nothing to be gathered, they might as well sit in their shelter and save alot of energy. Also think about this: If there was that little to be gathered, how come boars survived? They eat basically the same stuff as we humans, minus the meat. And we have way easier access to those things. I think whether they were primarily hunters depends on the time period. Before inventing weapons? Hell no, unless you mean hunting mice and rats and hamsters, because that is actually something i could imagine them eating failry often when it comes to meat. Maybe rabbits and birds if they were lucky. But i dont think they regulary ate deer, even after inventing basic weaponry. Because its still extremely difficult and energy intensive to kill one even with throwing speers. No, actually you know what i find far more likely? They were just fishing alot, that is far easier and also available all year. Back in the day there were even crabs in our rivers. That stuff is also something boars dont have access too
@@reallyanotheruser7290 Boars eat meat too. I think a lot of the early hunting was done by scaring a herd of animals towards a cliff to where animals get pushed off by animals in the back when trying to stop.
I rarely ever write comments, its going to be - probably - my 5th time, but You Sir, well deserve it. Your work and attitude is extremely high standard, I ( and we) can only thank you very very much for this channel. Keep it up please!
The most hilarious part of the eat meat like a caveman theory is cavemen walked miles and sometimes days before they could catch game - and then they ate every organ Folks wolf down steaks they bought at the grocery store and call it caveman 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
What's ridiculous about that? Carnivores tend to eat lots of organs, although your presumption is silly in the sense that the average game contains several hundred times more meat than useful organs
"cavemen walked miles and sometimes days before they could catch game..." Funny how people in 2023 KNOW (or rather want to believe) what folks did in PRE-historic times. I suppose Roland was one of those who was walking for days in order to catch that game.
Caveman isn’t even the original human for a common sense view point. Like humans in a tropical climate mainly at fruit because they was easy to find and eat
The more I learn about nutrition the more I am reminded of the old saying...."All things in moderation"....a little saturated fat is okay....a few carbs is okay....a few vegetables are okay....a little meat is okay. We seem to run into trouble when our diets predominantly consist of only certain foods. I personally don't believe, based on evidence, that eating nothing but animal products is the best choice. Nor do I believe that eating nothing but fruits and vegetables is the best choice. For me personally....keeping carbs low...doing away with excessive amounts of saturated fat and sugar, processed or natural....moderate protein....and daily exercise....has given me the best results. I base this not only on how I feel...but first and foremost on what my blood work tells me.
First of all thank you for this easy-to-understand video. I ask myself.. what happened to just eating a balanced diet? Everything is so extreme now. *Only* plant based. *Only* animal products. What about just eating both and instead just trying to avoid industrially processed foods?
@@accountname5626 protein is really of no concern if you eat 1 or 2 servings of legumes daily and whole grains whenever you eat grains. The bioavailability topic is overblown by the anti vegan community. If you eat for example only chickpeas and nothing else, you need roughly 30% more protein. As soon as you eat a grain, that number goes down.
The best part of this channel isn't even the content, but to be able to observe and learn how to read and interpret scientific studies objectively and logically. It's a skill that if everyone had it, would change the world.
Thank you so much for your videos. I have been reading so much and feel like I get whiplashed between different nutritional viewpoints that I have no idea what to believe. So helpful
I’m tardy to the party. Every other video I watched where people debate Dr. Saladino’s diet was basically a non-science based attack. This video is the most comprehensive analysis I have seen, and I would like to thank you for deterring me from trying a diet based on hollow scientific principles that could be harmful, or, at the very least, is highly misleading.
The ancestral diet is a perfect framework for the human diet. It's the reason that most people eating most whole food diets find health, whether paleo or vegan. Paleolithic man didn't eat Cheetos, and that is 90% of the battle.
Paleolithic man ate whatever he could find. This is an annoying point that gets brought up. We didnt eat optimally when we had to survive the wilderness everyday. This is the fallacy of nature
Do you actually think that broccoli and bananas today look anything like the things that our ancestors could eat? Our ancestors would eat literally anything, depending on how hungry they were. Sometimes they are healthy things. Sometimes they ate things that were unhealthy, but which wouldn't kill them untill many years later, at which point they would have already been mauled to death by a bear. Sometimes they ate poison and died. They didn't always "eat healthy"
The Paleo diet is a diet of scarcity!! Sure eating meat is nutrient dense and lots of fat etc, but our ancestors didn't eat often for the simple fact that you would have had to hunt to get your food, and often hunts were unsuccessful. Joe Rogan and co would have you believe that eating a huge steak every day is what our ancestors did. It's completely delusional. They also ate vegetation too as food was scarce. Eating a Paleo diet every day is not optimal for most people. I think meat is fine, but must be consumed less in most people's diets.
I do best on carnivore. I can't have fruit as I get immediate joint pain. Paul Saladino's diet is for him. I wish I could follow it as I love fruit but it just doesn't help my arthritis. It's for us to figure out how to heal our bodiies and I will continue eating for comfort. I will always try to reintroduce other foods back in but if my pain and skin conditions come back, I go back to beef. I don't need to live to 100, I just need to live comfortably.
The truth is that we are all different! We have to find the personalized diet that works with our system. I’ve been doing a lot of research first to figure out my individual issues and then what to do about it. Testing is very important. For all of you folks that are healthy with no issues, I am happy for you. But for those of us still trying to figure it out since our medical industry only works on a pill for an ill, and doesn’t look any further, we have to figure it out ourselves. I have issues with oxalates and high histamine foods so all plants are not my friends. We can’t just generalize today. We need to educate ourselves with books and good videos and see what works for you. Good luck!!
Honestly, you really need to be on Rogan. He has guys like the one you're showing in this video where they are reaching millions of people, and you're information is incredibly valuable. I hope you get on there one day soon.
He doesn't do that. He'll have 10 people on that agree with him and then when he catches a bunch of shit for it he'll bring one person on with the opposite view. And then, that person will struggle to get their point across clearly because Joe's hitting them with a thousand non-stop questions and anecdotes from his famous "a friend of mine" technique. Sincerely, someone who used to love Joe Rogan
Priceless info! Thanks a lot Gil!! One suggestion: If you add Spanish captions to your videos (as well as other languages) you would be reaching a much bigger audience... I just want to share this video with the world! Thanks again!! 😀
If you have the time to do it, you can actually add Spanish subs to YT vids. I don't remember the details right now but if you search YT there are vids on it. Spanish is a good one because it's so widely spoken.
@@dreamingrightnow1174 from what I've seen, it seems that I can only add subtitles to videos I uploaded on my YT channel. This actually makes sense. I don't think YT would let anyone to add captions to someone else's videos just like that. Maybe there is a way...? But I'm guessing it would require coordination with the owners of the channel, and their permission, of course.
I’m an associate professor of neuroscience and a long-standing member of the chemosensory field. My specific expertise is in the taste system. The taste system evolved to serve ingestion of essential nutrients (electrolytes, carbohydrates, and amino acids) and prevent us from ingesting potentially harmful plant toxins (alkaloids). Plant alkaloids are perceived as bitter and are innately avoided. Some of the most toxic substances we know of come from plants, and they will kill you. Some good examples are strychnine and nicotine. These are well known and essentially not debatable facts about the evolution and purpose of the taste system, as an insurmountable evidence exists. HOWEVER, most of the plants we eat have been cultivated over many years and a large amount of bitter alkaloids have been bred out. A small amount of toxins may actually be beneficial and I don’t want to get into all of that here, but the point here is the plants we consume from the grocery store are not toxic to us like they are to insects. If they were toxic enough to cause harm, they would be very very bitter. So, you can trust your taste system in that regard. There’s many mechanisms to prevent us from starving to death, but little to prevent us from over eating. So, simple carbohydrates are highly palatable, because the chances of coming across that in nature, without issues (bee stings when you try to get honey foe example) are rare. If you find yourself in the wild, I wouldn’t suggest trying to survive on plants unless you have a great knowledge of them. Better to eat meat in that case. BUT, like I said, most of us don’t live like that…so eat a variety of foods to get your protein, fats, vitamins, and minerals. Extreme in any direction isn’t necessary and is unlikely best.
@@NutritionMadeSimple even more interesting when you look at the evolution of medium and long wavelength cones in the retina and the importance of color discrimination. Lots of plants (nightshades best example) produce toxic alkaloids such as nicotine and derivatives of nicotine and store them in their leaves. They would therefore be bitter and innately avoided. The plant does this, because the leaves are their “solar panels” and requires them to make fruit and produce seeds. Fruits are often yellow, orange, and red. The plant benefits from animals eating fruit, especially birds, because they broadcast their seeds. The wavelengths of light that activate medium wavelength cones (which are essential for producing the perception green) and long wavelength cones (which are responsible for producing the perception red) are only 30nm apart. But “blue” wavelengths which primarily activates S cones, is 100nm apart. So, green and red perception are very dissimilar (but more physically similar in wavelength than blue and green) but serve an important evolutionary purpose…better to eat the red fruit and live then eat green leaves and face consequences. We are a multi sensory organism and use many sensory systems to aid in our survival. But like I said…most likely not a problem when you buy your food from a grocery store, which has vetted all the plants for you, lol! These are old systems (taste and smell the oldest), but for industrialized countries this isn’t an issue. I don’t subscribe that being a carnivore or omnivore is THE way to live. Best to get nutrients from a variety of sources. Keep putting the time in on your videos. You will help a lot of people who are on the fence about going to an extreme form of dietary lifestyles
@@nnggghhaa3709 yes. Plants we eat still have alkaloids. They just don’t have enough to kill you. But in the wild, it’s not worth the chance to eat plants unless you’re very knowledgeable of them. Do you find Brussel sprouts very bitter? Everyone is a bit different, but if you can taste “PTC paper” then it would explain a lot. It’s a compound that separates people into categories based on taste sensitivity. It’s genetically linked
"Most plants are not edible, but almost every animal is edible." Rogan's logic is so blatantly flawed. But that's what successful Internet influencers do: they surf the confirmation bias that a great many people fall for (myself included). That's why channels like Gil Carvalho's are so important, and why I'm so grateful to him.
Yeah i think it always comes back down to the individual. Im overweight, i tried carnivore numerous times, it just doesnt agree with me. I always feel greasy and sludgy and my digestion sucks. I tend to do best on mostly plants with a small amount of healthy protein like fish or a very small portion of steak.
I just found your channel and have to say “well done!!”. I love your videos! I would love to know your thoughts and some scientific facts, if you have any, on hair mineral testing. It seems that this test can help out with getting clear on what we individually need in terms of nutrition and genes and also looks at our metabolism and toxins. This would be super helpful! Thank you so much 🙏🏼 Keep up the good work! 💜
Wait, by what means does resveratrol help the body? In that paper you show, it says "mining" plants. Once again, by what means? Digestion or some other method? And is the body actually able to extract the beneficial elements from said plants via digestion and of what percentage? Source(s)?
You are the first Doctor who is neither Vegan nor Carnivore who is basing your position based on data. I’ll share this video to others. How these bunch of vegans and carnivores with little info are spreading misinformation is concerning. The meta analysis of RCT for saturated fat is a perfect example.
LDL AND HDL are proteins that transport cholesterol through the body. Why doesn't anyone clarify that so people can understand?! Great video by the way! What your doing is helping people understand not to run with an idea because u heard it once on a podcast and it fits what u want to hear. Diet change is not easy but can save your life!😃👍
I know you have your 5 meta analyses covering millions of people, but if this heroin is really killing me, then why is it making me feel so good? In all seriousness, thanks for doing these responses man. I can't make it through some of this stuff without somebody talking me through my frustration.
I read some years back that pure heroin have minimum adverse effects. The problem is with everything that comes with it. It's just hard to get 100% pure heroin. But don't quote me on scientific validity of this information :D
I recently replaced my vegan diet with a pure heroine diet. Long story short: I am now the envy of all mankind. But BIG VEGETABLE is trying to silence the truth with their “clinical studies”.
My father-in-law has always had cholesterol levels approximately 150 with low ldl and a good ratio. He had a massive heart attack, several strokes, and now Alzheimer's. All conditions presented in his early seventies. He never drank or smoked, but he never exercised and did shift work.
Excellend video, I am a fan of Pauls work and enjoy his podcasts and ideas but I appreciate the critique and will take it all onboard. Nutrition is complex and personal and every bit of (good) data we can collect to help inform our decisions is worth taking on-board. One thing I will say in defense of Paul is that he and many others have found the complete exclusion of plants cured auto imune illnesses so he is very invested in his ideas at a personal level and he just wants to help.
thanks for your comment and for being open to discussing things! When we make these videos we try to imagine we're speaking to people who believe the ideas we're evaluating, and how can we scientifically and objectively dissect them while being accurate but not making people reflexively defensive. Otherwise we get into 'my diet is better than yours' ideological battles - the internet doesn't need any more of that :) I actually have no doubt he's well intentioned. he comes across as a nice guy to me. I wish their approach wasn't so glib in terms of dismissing the fundamentals and basic heuristics, which inevitably leads the bulk of the scientific community to not take their stuff seriously (thereby increasing the communication gap). this effect on autoimmune disease is something that could be looked at (could it be secondary to gastro-intestinal issues? IBS? specific food intolerances? gluten intolerance? etc). did you experience that as well?
@@NutritionMadeSimple I didn't have issues like many Carnivores have. However from a 1-2 week trial where i was nearly 100% carinvore I saw some long term ecsma start to clear very quickly. There probably is a food alergy/intolorence behind that but i never worked out exactly which food. I am more interested in this idea of nutrient dense food, eating nose to tail and trying eat local and seasonal. Fast in the morning, workout every day, sleep well (don't drink or smoke) and avoid processed food as much as possible. So far it appears to be working for me.
@@dafyddgiddins9861 interesting. I was just reading something from a dermatologist on a related topic. you can get tested for specific antigens to figure out exactly what the issue is. that gives you the option in the future to reintroduce all the plants that you're NOT sensitive to, if you so choose
It’s also worth noting that many people have absolute garbage diets. Their eating mostly processed partial foods. So when they stop doing that, how do we know if it’s the new meat heavy whole food diet or just the fact that they stopped eating partial foods packed with salt fat and sugar? Could they get similar results from whole food plant diet? The idea that everyone thinks these partial food processed diets are acceptably healthy is silly. I’m vegan. But I don’t care if people want to eat meat. But you can’t really justify these modern partial foods. Nobody intelligent thinks that’s healthy. One thing that’s not debatable about a that all life on earth is designed to eat Whole Foods, not partial processed stuff.
Been seeing a lot more on the carnivore diet lately and it's frustrating trying to see beyond the anecdotal. This is the video I needed to see. Balanced and no vested interested 👍
Saladino had a plaque reading of zero. Presumably this was the from a CC scan - which only shows calcified plaque. He may still have soft plaque, which is more dangerous. He had been a vegan for years prior to taking up keto/ carnivore as well.
Hey there. While I agree with this video, I just want to point out something. You even mentioned it - if something works for you and it is the only option then go ahead. We should not disregard anecdotes because everyone is genetically and biologically different. And while on a large scale, e.g. epidemiological studies and also some RCTs, it might be true that there is a benefit to eating a particular way, the reason might just be that there is a large portion of people that are genetically suited to derive an advantage from it. It might be possible that there is a group of genetically different people that just cannot metabolize some compounds properly and they provide no benefit or even become harmful. Large scale studies present their conclusions as if "average" person exists and that everyone can benefit from some intervention. Everyone is different and we should consider it. Frequently, studies do not present the individual changes rather just averages - so it can happen that a subgroup of people can have no or small change or even change in the opposite direction compared to the change seen in the averages. Another interesting thing to mention is that studies done in a developed countries, where the average person is not really healthy (like UK or US), might overstate the effect of dietary interventions. If the baseline health of average participant is already bad, any dietary intervention will look healthy. In a healthy individuals, the effect might be very small even though it is statistically significant. For example it might not be detrimental to eat red meat if your cholesterol is low, you eat plenty of vegetables, fruits and whole grains. I am really looking forward to the future where everyone will have their genome and microbiome sequenced and will know what food to eat and to avoid to optimize their health.
Lectins and Oxalates are not good for some people. So, let people eliminate through diet and see what makes sense to them. My daughter is gluten sensitive. She feels so much better when she doesn’t have gluten. Sometimes gluten sneaks in because she ate meatballs at someone’s house that contained bread crumbs she wasn’t told about. She feels rough. Her paternal grandmother died of colon cancer, Italian, pasta every day. Her dad carries 2 celiac genes, gave up gluten too, all gastro issues resolved. I can eat bread. I don’t though because it makes me crave bread to the exclusion of all other things and it’s not fair to my family when they can’t. I make other bread for all of us and we love it, flax almond coconut flour and psyllium husk, egg whites……all that to say, just try some things, eat whole foods and feel better.
IM a bodybuildee for the last 23 years and even I at some point realised i was eating to much protein and from meat and not enough vegetables. I felt the best when i simply started eating a non typical bodybuilding diet thats just balanced everything in moderation i had some fruit some vegetables switched fat sources not just fish oil all the time only.i even had some dairy with yogurt oh my thats forbidden. I felt the best on this and felt like a normal person while doing an extreme sport no one smart would try to do
@@totalmetaljacket789 I can not manage on too much protein I was on that bodybuilding way of eating to eating 200g of protein at only 5’7 so I didn’t even need that much protein I felt like I was overstuffing myself with food all the time when I was on that bodybuilding bro diet plan , now I cut down my protein to 150-160g and vegan with heavy weight lifting 5x a week
0:30 Even to herbivorous animals most plants are not edible. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be eating plants. Some herbivores eat only one species of plant their entire lives.
Wow that was great thank you. I am glad Dr Avi reffered me to your channel. So on the money or should I say on the science. I like the longer videos too
I get and respect his arguments, but certainly personal empirical data counts too, no? I was sick all my life (gut wise) until I eliminated plants from my diet. I’m not going to go back to being sick and miserable because of arguments in peer-reviewed studies.
absolutely. science doesn't replace well-being. that would beat the purpose. the hope is that it can help figure out and resolve the underlying issue(s). example: th-cam.com/video/FdQexSS0lOg/w-d-xo.html
It's not that it doesn't count. It's just that anecdotal information is prone to misdirection because people tend to frame their own experiences in particular ways regardless if it's actually the best explanation or not. It's the same way tons of people claim to have had their health improved from a gluten free diet, which may very well be the case, but scientifically, there is little to no reason to think it's the removal of gluten itself to attribute those improvements for most people. Most likely, it's that getting away from white bread and sugar/salt heavy pastry types has improve their health, which you often won't get if you take anecdotal data at face value. It's very likely the same thing with regard to you removing any and all plants. And the vast majority of nutrition science would encourage you to keep an open mind about reintroducing at least some plants to your diet Berries, nuts, and cruciferous vegetables in particular would be good to start off with
What I appreciate the most about your videos is the lack of emotionality.... There's so many endless perspectives on so many endless topics these days. Adding emotion and extremism to the mix just makes wading through the information exhausting. I appreciate your style, Doc.
I think you need to go on Joe Rogan! I did a low carb diet for a year. I lost a ton of weight, but my cholesterol went through the roof. My doctor was ready to put me on a pill. I held off and changed my diet to a lower fat, flexible diet. A year later my cholesterol was cut by more than half. I’m not a scientist, nutritionist, or doctor. I know next to nothing about science. But I am a natural skeptic, and I love how the low carb cult all of a sudden makes the claim that having high levels of ldl is no longer a concern.
You are a proper scientist , is a beautiful profession and we have to keep going . Good video my friend of science . I am a physicist and biochemist and this is just impressive.
The reason I don't like that argument is simply that it leaves too much room for speculation and deduction. That's not what you want to base medical advice on. What's way more conclusive is performing studies of different sorts to see what results repeat themselves time and time again and forming recommendations based on that.
@@grimvallius8679 Yes, our ancestors were more active and thus more lean, but our ancestors also got cancers. I would wager cancer rates are higher, for sure, but to say our ancestors never got cancers is just not true. Also, which ancestors are we talking about? Pre-Agrarian hunter-gatherers? Bronze age farmers? Iron age fisherman? Stone age neanderthals? We have a lot of ancestors and they all had wildly different diets dependent on what was available and what technologies they had their disposal to aid in harvesting those sources. That's probably the thing we forget the most in this entire debate. One big reason humanity spread out across the globe was our ability to adapt to almost any food source we could find. We are undoubtedly omnivores. We evolved and thrived because of that fact, not in spite of it.
Thank you for pointing out the differences in research. I am lowering my serum cholesterol using dietary changes. I’m avoiding fish for ethical reasons. I’ve seen an overall drop in total cholesterol since avoiding dairy and meat. My triglycerides are down 40 points! I have high HDL, which may indicate I’m a super-absorber. My Doctor is excited about my results. I plan to focus on exercise and lowering saturated fats in 2023! Thanks again for adding clarity; it is appreciated greatly!
I have a master’s degree in Natural Science so I can read & interpret research and make my own decisions. I don’t owe you or anyone else an explanation. It’s my life.
It's a good point, just because pur annecestors ate particular foods doesn't necessarily indicate they were a healthy people. They could have all been sick, poorly, have digestive issues, hormonal imbalances. All we can do is take educated guesses. Its just difficult to do accurate research on this with modern people.
Absolutely beautiful use of logic displayed by Gil here. Most of his rebuttles to McDoctor were Gil explaining that his argument cant possibly be true simply by the structure of the argument, he didnt even need to address the subject directly. We need more of this in life!😅
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I think that the one, very important skill, that i got, from watching zour videos, is never to jump to conclusions. allways check everything even a little. even if it is logical to me. And I am thankfull to you for that! Its so easy to hear what you want and just believe it.
exactly. my PhD mentor used to say, when running experiments be skeptical of results you didn't expect and be MORE skeptical of results you expected. our minds are just too treacherous :)
I agree.
@@NutritionMadeSimple sound advice.
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I know it’s 3 years later but for anyone just now watching this, Dr. Saladino isn’t even carnivore anymore.
What's sobering is that so many YT doctors finish medical school, pass the relevant medical board exams and then practice medicine on other humans, yet they have this fundamentally and deeply flawed way of reasoning...
Amazing to find that eating only meat is unhealthy! Who could have predicted?🤔🙄
He still says grains and legumes are toxic lol. Food that allowed civilizations to exist is toxic according to him...
Thanks for the update...
hes ketovore.
I think you are the person I have been waiting for to clear some of this nutritional fog with clear logic fairly applied. Thank you.
This is a really calm, logical and most of all, reasonable video. Wish there was more of it, society needs them more than ever...
Turns out the best diet for humans in 2022 is don’t eat anything ever
😹😭😭😭
No risk, no damage
Plant based diet
true!
Well actually, fasting (especially long term fasting) is incredibly healing. It kicks your body into autophagy. Now if you care to look it up you will see the scientist who discovered autophagy won a Nobel Prize.
Our ancestors needed a diet that kept them alive long enough to reproduce. That’s essentially 15 to 25 years old. Lots of diets can do that. I’m concerned with what keeps me healthy for 80 or 100 years.
Underrated comment.
true ,,not of course spray with chemicals and why too many fat people in Texas i think DNA
variety, moderation, natural, whole (or low processing at least)
You must be american....some people were living 100 years 1000 or 10000 years ago aswell, the conditions to survive were diferent. No Mc fatty
Our ancestors had a very different food supply too. No fat cows or chickens being overfed with grains.
Im 49 year old and at 47 I had a heart attack and double bypass surgery. I was not extremely overweight. Infact the doctors could hardly believe that at my age I needed open heart bypass surgery. When I went for my Cardiac Catherization and the cardiac doctor told me they could not stent the arteries that where blocked because there was too much blockage well I felt completly helpless...in that moment I thought ok well what does the future hold for me. I have 2 kids and realised that i may not get to see them grow old and see grand kids...It was a hard reality to accept. After heart bypass surgery and From that day on I've been on a mission to get my body into a healthier state. I was almost 210lbs not that heavy but for my frame it was definetly not healty and now keeping my weight at around 160lbs. I have cut back on eating meat, specially red meat and not more processed meat. I was a huge huge huge meat eater!!! I could eat a whole pot roast to myself and ate alot of deli meats. Since then I've intruduced alot fruits and veggies..they make up probly 3/4 of my plate at every meal and try to replace animal protein with others like Tofu, beans and legumes. Im basically following the mediterranean diet at the moment. My Dr tells me my LDL is better than excellent so I must be doing something right...of course because of my heart disease I will be taking meds for my heart the reste of my life....Even with the bypass surgery I still have blocked arteries in my heart so it's up to me to make sure that I am informed and follow the best diet for my heart.
We are all so mixed up about what is healthy these days...This dr says eat all meat and that one says be a vegan, the other one is saying eat a bit of everything....very frustrating and confusing for people. I have to admit that I somtimes fall prey to the Carnivore diet videos that i see posted online because...well alot of Doctors are saying that the keto or carnivore diet is the best of the best....well is it the best for people like me?? I cant imagine that eating only meat is good long term for anyone...
Anyway just want to Thank you for the video here It was very informative and I enjoyed watching it.
"toxic chemicals made by plants to deter insects, should we be ingesting them?"
should we talk about it over a cup of coffee?
Nah...let's go have a beer
Heating or fermenting changes the nature of plant products. Coffee and beer fall into that category.
@@shadowmann9Caffeine itself is an evolved pesticide. Fermenting and heating the coffee beans doesn't remove the caffeine to the point of rendering it inert. Despite its caffeine content there is a decent body of evidence indicating that black coffee itself is a net positive for all cause mortality.
@shadowmann9 Nonsense. Cold-brewed (black) coffee is amazing.
@@insomnolant6043but the coffee been is roasted before you get it to make cold brew…….js
I’m so thankful for you. You keep me sane in this world of ever changing nutrition theories. Each time I’m about to get lost in a rabbit hole, your sensibilities pull me back. God bless you and keep you. Thank you for all you do!
Thank you for taking on the “ancestral diet” arguments. I’m an archaeologist, and this drives me wild. Prehistoric peoples ate whatever they could derive food value from, including a lot of things we absolutely wouldn’t eat today. Whether or not that diet was “ideal” was not up for discussion, the question was would it get you to tomorrow, next week, next year. And over the millennia people have adapted to a wide range of environments which provide very different ranges of food choices. While the basic nutrients we all need is fairly consistent, the idea that there is one ideal diet that everyone will thrive on is (in my opinion, at least) pretty ridiculous.
I am really curious about some things that our ancestors ate that we absolutely wouldn't eat today. Got any examples??
@@sbxftr A variety of insects. Mice, rats and such, small birds. Pretty much every part of every animal - including eyes and internal organs. Granted, there are people currently around who still eat many of these things, but the average mainstream modern human wouldn’t consider them remotely edible.
@@anna9072what does that have to do with their nutritional value though? Just because they aren’t modern foods doesn’t mean that they are bad for us. Those are very nutritious parts of an animal. The prehistoric diet is all about what nature provided for us, because biology has evolved for organisms to exist in an environment where every nutrient we could ever need is available, and we are genetically coded to crave foods with these nutrients. Early humans ate all of the right foods, the foods that we needed, because that was all that they had
But they are edible though right? So its because of culture and not nutritional value that we have abandoned these foods. I grew up in a culture where we ate a lot of these things (not mice, but I had friends whose families ate mice) and now it appears humans made a mistake in abandoning these foods after all, especially organ meats. As the other poster stated, we can argue that our bodies evolved to survive on these same foods that our prehistoric ancestors ate. And now that we have so radically changed our diets, is it any wonder that we're dealing with some many weight related issues?
Conversely, most of what is found in supermarkets today was not available 100 years ago, and further back. That, and most available meats are leaner, as the fatty megafauna is gone.
Saladino would definitely debate you, I'd love to see it.
AGREE! Would love to hear these two to sit down by the table, drink some tea (or bone broth in Saladino’s case lmao) and have a polite 1on1 scientific discussion😍
@@Jericho363 you’ve got great attitude tbh, don’t let yourself down!
I’m vegan myself, literally been following the exact diet of Dr. Gil’s and have no complains whatsoever. But it’s also ok to eat some animal products like you do! Just do as Gil advises: mostly plant-based, whole food diet with some animal products (hence, the meditteranean diet) is very productive and sustainable, in terms of scientific evidence.
Hahah dude I’d also like to persuade Saladino to debate/talk to Gil. Agree, I also think Gil’s arguments are much more comprehensive and are based on SOLID scientific evidence. Saladino is a psychiatrist and is notorious for biased, irrelevant and cherry-picked argumentation.
Nice to talk to you!✌🏽
@@Jericho363 Dont really understand your need for Paul to be shamed for his point of views.
As for looking at 1 video when hes talking to joe rogan who isn't a doctor maybe be his best choice and was probably the wrong way to approach it. But still doesn't make his belief or claims less valid.
Instead i think Gil is on the right track here by saying what it the over all general health from doing whatever diet you are doing/promoting. And dont think relying souly on science is a good idea either since back in the days hysterical women was recommended to smoke to calm down. Science always moves forward but only thanks to open conversation and ideas not by shaming people or playing on emotions.
@@Jericho363 No need to feel embarrassed or shame you came back with good points and humble approach so in my book no need to apologize for anything. Was nice talking to you and have a good weekend.
Salad Boy has NOTHING to debate. He is wrong in every way. His blood pressure is also way too high
It seems like...just stay away from processed foods, junk food, eat clean meats, fruits and vegetables. Our ancestors definitely ate that, they didn't drink Mountain Dew or eat Chips Ahoy, or 90% of things included in the SAD.
And the meat they are was not fortified with hormones, MGO, etc.
Uh... processing food is how we make plants safe to eat due to our lack of a fermenting gut... so we need to process through external digestion like fermentation, cooking, marination, mechanical tenderization, etc..
This channel is real gem. So rare to find a channel that prioritizes intellectual rigor and integrity, by placing the methodological tools of Science in the hands of viewers. This short-fall is the work of viewers themselves, because most of them don't know the difference.
Indeed. Are there any more channels like this one?
Beautiful display of intellectual honesty, rigour and a deep understanding of the scientific method and mindset as well as clear expertise on the current literature. Truly great work! I find so many videos and people I know make arguments based on weak sources or their feelings, so this is a breath of fresh air.
One thing about what we are not considering is the genetic variability of the populations, which means that some people may respond better to one diet than to another depending on their genes. It is difficult to find studies that consider this possibility.
Nor that fact that some people react more to plant defense molecules than others.
It's like saying bread and gluten are fine because population data says it's fine.
Someone reacting more or less would be genetic.
Doesn't matter. There are enough studies including thousands of people concluding that lower LDL is better for cardiac health.
@@Morgainz88 Makes no sense. Lectins and oxalates are easily dealt with by cooking.
That's probably true for most people. I have low cholesterol, I want to reduce it even more with statins but I heard that statins can convert soft plaque into hard plaque. Even though, hard plaque is safer than soft plaque, soft plaque can be reversible but hard plaque can't and will increase your risk for increasing your blood pressure since arteries become less elastic. Any advice?
The guy says his arterial plaque score is zero, but I've heard it isn't the hard plaque that shows up on the test that is dangerous, but the soft plaque that doesn't show up on the test, that is the dangerous plaque. Great discussion! I'm suspicious of clinical studies where phamaceutical companies are involved.
its rare to find someone whos objective on youtube or the internet i really enjoy how you approach your videos and the way you explain everything so the average joe can understand i very much appreciate your videos keep up the good work and thank you for bringing some evidence based arguments to these kind of videos
that maybe true but if he stays on youtube he wont be that way for long. the medium is the message. it will change you.
@@jeffhicks8428you based that statement on what? He’s been on this platform for years…
Thanks for this video. You are one of the most balanced, fair, objective and clear channels on nutrition out there.
This guy is it. I’ve been waiting for someone this reasonable and measured for so long. I’m not sure how I haven’t found you up until this point. What a relief
We need about 100 Gil Carvahlo's to explain politics & economics to people.
@@presence5426 does he talk about those things as well? I’ll have to look up his talks on those subjects!
@@anthonyd9426 I don't think so. He's probably got his hands full with nutrition, lol!
Tell me about it! And look at all the dislikes. He doesn't agree with certain fad diets and, apparently, that upsets some people.
@@presence5426 good point!
Love your content! There's so many unfounded claims out there which in turn influence so many people. Your line of thinking objectively and asking the right questions should be on the national curriculum.
Came to this chamel when you were talking about game changers. And all this time after, I can only say thank you for all the effort and time put into these videos. I seriously believe that you promote the correct attitude and mentality towards nutrition science. Thank you Gil
You should see if Joe will bring you on his podcast! I would love to see that episode!
Joe Rogan would be great. He is one of the few that will actually listen to most anything with an open mind.
This guy isn't worthy of being on Joe Rogans Podcast
@@tonyinfinity Yeah he doesn't have a rotten brain.
@@tonyinfinity Isn't worthy? LOL ok buddy
@SUPERNOVA I think most people with an academic understanding will agree it's actually quite the opposite.
From what I understand, the “processing” methods of foods like grains legumes etc were done much differently by our ancestors. Involved soaking and fermenting the grains and making them as nutrient dense as possible and always coveting the fat and organs of the animals.
What’s your take on that?
certainly possible, and also possible (and likely) that both animals and plants are not the same as they used to be in the ancestral environment (have been extensively bred etc), those differences emphasize how uninformative the presumed ancestral habits are for our modern dietary choices, and in contrast how modern studies are by far the best heuristic since they look at the effect of modern foods in defined conditions
@@NutritionMadeSimple just stumbled upon your channel and I love your content and how you interact with your viewers.. responding on a Saturday? Respect!!
That makes a lot of sense.. I always wonder when people make the comparison of our ancestors eating so much animal fats, i assume it certainly wasn’t cows but more so buffalo, elk, deer etc that were completely foraging on more than just grass (berries, moss, etc) meat these days even if pasture raised probably wouldn’t be nearly as healthy?
@@NutritionMadeSimple just reread your comment and you completely answered that already lol. Thanks man!
@@jackg5278 I've seen papers guess-timating ancient prey at ~7% saturated fat (extremely lean). so yeah wild deer *might* be in the neighborhood but commercial cattle likely way off. the sparse data on grass-fed animals suggests few if any differences from grain fed... (I touched on it in one of the game changers videos)
@@NutritionMadeSimple gotcha.. Keep up the good work!
This is the type of doctor I need and what we all need! Most of these debate videos are just cringe, but you absolutely helped me think more about this, and gave me hope. Thank you!
We face perennial problems of self-deception. Your sober, careful and refined analyses are immeasurably valuable and needed more than ever. Thank you!
People "feel good" when they're drunk as well
And I felt _terrible_ the moment I stopped drinking! Never doing that again. Why would nature design a molecule that's naturally present in fruits that's harmful to us? It makes no sense.
by the same argument you can also say people feel good when they do drugs and they'll also crave it, but doesn't mean they are healthy.
No, they feel drunk, the difference is huge, there is a difference between feeling healthy and what you define as "good"
Or joe rogan..drunk and stoned. Yea. I feel 😊
@@lululove6175feeling good thanks to hormone replacement therapy baby! Just like the ancestors!
Gil, I can't believe your channel isn't the de facto go to health channel on TH-cam. Your ability to help us see with objectivity on both sides of the fence and navigate all this noise of "eat this, not that" is astounding. I get that alot of this stems from human psychological fallacies (rampant in political siding, my religion is best because... , online money making gurus selling $5000 courses to name but a few) but to have people like yourself willing to commit the time/effort and present super clear info for the rest of us is truly a blessing. Just wanted to say how grateful I/we are!
thanks!! I appreciate it! :)
I completely agree!
Agreed!
Glad people are seeing this.
Cos most people don't search for factual information but rather they seek for bias confirmation.
Huge contribution to understanding dietary advice in regards of Lipids. Really. Thank you. I've been struck with all these self proclaimed 'carnivore' doctors in the past few months and I love your 'from the ground up' approach. Thank you for comparing the different types of studies and ranking them in the terms of significance. I'm a biologist in the making and this is helping me to understand science and scientific publications.
thanks! it's stunning how most misunderstandings around nutrition online sit on the same basic misconceptions
As a non native speaker, I don't usually fully understand educational videos like these especially when it's about nutrition. But my brain just digested your videos super easily that I didn't have to pause the video not even once. I immediately subscribed by the end of it lol.
I've been falling into the carnivore rabbit hole these last few days and this video is, without a doubt, the best one I've seen as it pertains to arguing the facts against some of the fantastical claims. Really liked that it was informed by the evidence but also that you recognised the lived experiences of people who may feel better on a certain diet. Great work. New subscriber here for sure.
I was in a similar boat - not full carnivore, but eating a lot of meat under the influence of certain things seen on TH-cam. I was convinced, based on a previous attempt, that I could get enough energy from a plant-based diet. This channel, and, especially, Plant Chompers, which I thnk is one of the all-time great TH-cam channels, have completely turned things around for me. I'm fully plant-based now, it's working and I feel great.
@@JohnMoseleyWhy jump from one extreme to the other? Animal products have their place in a healthy diet as well. It's simply important to maintain the appropriate ratios.
@@BasedChadman The way I'm eating now doesn't feel like an extreme, though obviously I understand why you use the term. It's only an extreme to me in that it's extremely satisfying. I don't miss or feel deprived of anything.
I originally switched mainly for health and environmental reasons under the influence of Plant Chompers, but since then I've watched a lot of Earthling Ed and I agree with him that I can't see a reason to kill or harm an animal for food if I don't need to. His debates on college campuses on the ethics of this are the best source I've found on this and I recommend them.
how many meals a day and average calorie count?@@JohnMoseley
@@googanslayer6675 the moment people bring up calorie count I really can’t help but think “eating disorder”, it should be about nutrients. calories are only one part of nutrition. think about all the nutrients you can and can’t get from a carnivore (and vegan) diet
Finally! I found a channel where someone looks at the evidence and drops all the BS and just calls it like it is, with no skin in the game one way or the other. Truth. No BS or hype. I like this guy's stuff so far.
Man I love your videos! Thanks for this. My nephew sent the podcast to me because I don’t eat meat. I was always looking for a response to that podcast and am glad I found yours.
A population study can be helpful as a general guide but on an individual basis the conflicting opinions from different doctors can be very helpful. For instance I chose keto, reduced my A1C, lost 30+ lbs, increased hdl, and reduced tgl. My LDL is still high. Therefore I am now reducing saturated fat, adding more salads and berries to my diet. We'll see what the results are in a few months but my expectation is an improvement in all areas. Watching these videos has also tipped me off that vegetable oils were causing inflammation. Since removing from my diet, Acne is dramatically improved and my developing arthritis has improved. A population study would say vegetable oils are not inflammatory but for me it is. Key point: educate yourself and do what's best for you.
Thats a very wise approach I believe a ketogenic lifestyle is healthy for the majority but every person is different so it's best people educate themselves and adapt as they move forward because there's no one diet that is perfect for everyone. I think as long as we cut out ultra processed foods we can't go far wrong
We have known ( at least in Europe) for years that saturated fats are bad for health. The US has one of highest levels of obseity in the world, which is not surprising when one looks at the diet of the average America.
I went on a low-carb, mostly plant-based diet and noticed that my total cholesterol fell from 147 to 99 mg/dl, and my LDL from 70 to 37 mg/dl over a period of 6 weeks. Precisely, I cut out sugar completely and replaced it by the amino acid glycin and I cut out all starchy foods. Also, I cut out all animal-based foods except having salmon 2 or 3 times a week. And I cut out all plant oils except olive oil, of which I took several table spoons daily. Protein sources were: plenty of nuts, tofu, lentils, beans, and salmon. I drank plenty of cacao (prepared with nut milk or soy milk plus glycin), matcha green tea, breakfast was mostly a mixture of fruits with ground seeds (chia, flax seed, pumpkin seed, sesame) and nut milk, plus a big glass of cacao. Lunch mostly lentil soup or beans and a big salad. Dinner either tofu with veggies or salmon and veggies. Overall, I did not lose weight (6'3, 225 lbs, muscular), I did feel well however felt that my body did miss animal products (especially eggs and dairy). I'm now back on a mixed diet and added some eggs, 1 glass of cow's milk daily, and occasional chicken again. Feeling better with this, but have not yet checked my cholesterol again.
@@tenmillionvolts You are right, about sugar. but nonetheless the evidence is well known for years that saturated fat is not good for you. Like everything it depends on your age, physical activity and metabolism. My philosophy is moderation in everything.
@@tenmillionvolts You are right I also lost weight cutting out all sugar, carbs and regretfully alcohol. Net affect after two months I lost 9 kilos.
Great breakdown. Really appreciate this. There is so much completely contradictory evidence out there, it's damn near impossible to wade through at this point.
It's always some dumb sh&t
Don't eat fruit, don't eat carbs, don't eat vegetables. I'm surprised they don't tell us to not drink water!
THEY do tell you to avoid water😂😂😂
Ah, yes, but did you know water can kill you, therefore we should avoid water (#sarcasm). But technically water can result in death if you drink too much as it screws up the bodies levels. But obviously, it's rare.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1770067/
Fluoride in the water. Plastics in plastic water bottles. I see your point….. but we live in such a corrupt world we are being poisoned from every direction that even water is a no no 😂
@@chopin1962 only raw blood, water is too vegan, it surely has antinootrients
I've been petting racoons in my yard during the day, and I gotta say they avoid water. They are part of nature and I think they're onto something. Ever since I stopped drinking and almost.... fearing water, I get this really cool foam sensation in my mouth that wards off predators. Isn't nature great??
Excellent review of the topic. Very well articulated and it's great you have a strong understanding of how research methodology is so important for interpreting outcomes.
Paul Saladino has already changed his mind on 100% carnivore. So he does not even believe what he was saying any longer.
but there are many people who still believe in this carnivore delusion, so this video serves the purpose of debunking this pseudo-science
Of course. It's just nonsense 😂
I would respect somebody MORE for realising their mistakes and actually addressing the most up to date info. Rather than someone rigidly sticking to an agenda.
So, within the three years since this video was made he has finally woken up! No surprises.
But again, as one says only imbeciles never change their mind 😂
The more I watch Gil’s videos the more I like them. He is fair and respectful. I don’t agree with all of his conclusions regarding saturated fat and cholesterol but he does provide useful analysis.
His conclusion comes from literally the most objective look at the scientific consensus
You’re free to disagree with it, but an apple will fall when you toss it up
Doc, you speak so clear and easy to understand. When I watch a lot of videos on this subject, people keep throwing random terms and mention random things without explaining, it made me so confused
Another one bites the dust!. Got me hooked when you said, "I can get all the essential nutrients from a combination of junk food and pills, doesn't mean it's a healthy diet". I don't give a rat as on Dr.Saladino's claims.
These carnivore types often forget the gatherer part of hunter gatherer.
@@yingyang1008 There are edible plants, berries and mushrooms in most if not all European forests, no reason to think your particular forest would be any different. You might have to do some research and look around a bit more as they're not quite as visually obvious as a deer.
@@yingyang1008 I didn't suggest you source your entire caloric intake from those things. You said "I grew up next to a forest in Europe, I can't think of anything that could be gathered". I replied that you probably weren't looking very hard since forests contain heaps of edible plants and fungi. You seem to have trouble reading I guess. Maybe it's the lack of phytochemicals in your diet? lmao
@@yingyang1008 Roots are a thing, also nuts. Also its hard to judge this, since forests back then probably looked WAY different
@@yingyang1008 There wouldve been a completely different distribution of all different kinds of trees and shrubbs, including possibly a bunch that have gone extinct due to the heavy deforestation and forestry in europe. Also i think youre underestimating heavily what nature can produce. A single chestnut tree gives 50Kg chestnuts. And people back then werent so stupid not to store that stuff. Because they actually did store seeds before inventing agriculture. You can find roots all year long. And gathering that stuff will make you use up far less kalories than hunting. Than you have that whole thing about storing energy as body fat. We dont need to constantly eat 2000 cal to survive. If humans have a shelter and there is nothing to be gathered, they might as well sit in their shelter and save alot of energy.
Also think about this: If there was that little to be gathered, how come boars survived? They eat basically the same stuff as we humans, minus the meat. And we have way easier access to those things.
I think whether they were primarily hunters depends on the time period. Before inventing weapons? Hell no,
unless you mean hunting mice and rats and hamsters, because that is actually something i could imagine them eating failry often when it comes to meat. Maybe rabbits and birds if they were lucky. But i dont think they regulary ate deer, even after inventing basic weaponry. Because its still extremely difficult and energy intensive to kill one even with throwing speers.
No, actually you know what i find far more likely? They were just fishing alot, that is far easier and also available all year. Back in the day there were even crabs in our rivers. That stuff is also something boars dont have access too
@@reallyanotheruser7290 Boars eat meat too. I think a lot of the early hunting was done by scaring a herd of animals towards a cliff to where animals get pushed off by animals in the back when trying to stop.
Very informative, calm and respectful. Props to you sir
I rarely ever write comments, its going to be - probably - my 5th time, but You Sir, well deserve it. Your work and attitude is extremely high standard, I ( and we) can only thank you very very much for this channel. Keep it up please!
We are honoured and bestowed by your commentary. Thank you
The most hilarious part of the eat meat like a caveman theory is cavemen walked miles and sometimes days before they could catch game - and then they ate every organ
Folks wolf down steaks they bought at the grocery store and call it caveman
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Exactly. They're forgetting the lifestyle part of it.
What's ridiculous about that? Carnivores tend to eat lots of organs, although your presumption is silly in the sense that the average game contains several hundred times more meat than useful organs
"cavemen walked miles and sometimes days before they could catch game..."
Funny how people in 2023 KNOW (or rather want to believe) what folks did in PRE-historic times. I suppose Roland was one of those who was walking for days in order to catch that game.
I work really hard every day harder then cave man .
Caveman isn’t even the original human for a common sense view point. Like humans in a tropical climate mainly at fruit because they was easy to find and eat
The more I learn about nutrition the more I am reminded of the old saying...."All things in moderation"....a little saturated fat is okay....a few carbs is okay....a few vegetables are okay....a little meat is okay. We seem to run into trouble when our diets predominantly consist of only certain foods. I personally don't believe, based on evidence, that eating nothing but animal products is the best choice. Nor do I believe that eating nothing but fruits and vegetables is the best choice. For me personally....keeping carbs low...doing away with excessive amounts of saturated fat and sugar, processed or natural....moderate protein....and daily exercise....has given me the best results. I base this not only on how I feel...but first and foremost on what my blood work tells me.
First of all thank you for this easy-to-understand video.
I ask myself.. what happened to just eating a balanced diet? Everything is so extreme now. *Only* plant based. *Only* animal products. What about just eating both and instead just trying to avoid industrially processed foods?
an "only" plant based diet can still be a balanced diet. Having a balanced diet is still the most important thing healthwise.
@@chimp09bioavailable protein is not sufficient from plant sources.
@@accountname5626 protein is really of no concern if you eat 1 or 2 servings of legumes daily and whole grains whenever you eat grains.
The bioavailability topic is overblown by the anti vegan community. If you eat for example only chickpeas and nothing else, you need roughly 30% more protein. As soon as you eat a grain, that number goes down.
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What about B12? People with vegetarian diets need to supplement it. Thus it can never be a balanced diet.
I am a vegan myself, btw.
Thank you Gil for being a breath of fresh air among all the cacophony out there
The best part of this channel isn't even the content, but to be able to observe and learn how to read and interpret scientific studies objectively and logically. It's a skill that if everyone had it, would change the world.
Feelings are not facts. Some people stop at feelings, which are not facts. Nor are they evidence or science.
Thank you so much for your videos. I have been reading so much and feel like I get whiplashed between different nutritional viewpoints that I have no idea what to believe. So helpful
I’m tardy to the party. Every other video I watched where people debate Dr. Saladino’s diet was basically a non-science based attack. This video is the most comprehensive analysis I have seen, and I would like to thank you for deterring me from trying a diet based on hollow scientific principles that could be harmful, or, at the very least, is highly misleading.
Amen to you sir, the world has gone crazy big time...
The ancestral diet is a perfect framework for the human diet. It's the reason that most people eating most whole food diets find health, whether paleo or vegan. Paleolithic man didn't eat Cheetos, and that is 90% of the battle.
Paleolithic man ate whatever he could find. This is an annoying point that gets brought up. We didnt eat optimally when we had to survive the wilderness everyday. This is the fallacy of nature
Our ancestors ate what they could find including stuff that is definitely not good for humans because they couldn't be picky
Do you actually think that broccoli and bananas today look anything like the things that our ancestors could eat? Our ancestors would eat literally anything, depending on how hungry they were. Sometimes they are healthy things. Sometimes they ate things that were unhealthy, but which wouldn't kill them untill many years later, at which point they would have already been mauled to death by a bear. Sometimes they ate poison and died. They didn't always "eat healthy"
Cheetos aren't food
The Paleo diet is a diet of scarcity!!
Sure eating meat is nutrient dense and lots of fat etc, but our ancestors didn't eat often for the simple fact that you would have had to hunt to get your food, and often hunts were unsuccessful. Joe Rogan and co would have you believe that eating a huge steak every day is what our ancestors did. It's completely delusional. They also ate vegetation too as food was scarce. Eating a Paleo diet every day is not optimal for most people. I think meat is fine, but must be consumed less in most people's diets.
I do best on carnivore. I can't have fruit as I get immediate joint pain. Paul Saladino's diet is for him. I wish I could follow it as I love fruit but it just doesn't help my arthritis. It's for us to figure out how to heal our bodiies and I will continue eating for comfort. I will always try to reintroduce other foods back in but if my pain and skin conditions come back, I go back to beef. I don't need to live to 100, I just need to live comfortably.
hi, we made a video recently going over what's known on diet & autoimmune disease th-cam.com/video/p97VbFFT8pU/w-d-xo.html
The truth is that we are all different! We have to find the personalized diet that works with our system. I’ve been doing a lot of research first to figure out my individual issues and then what to do about it. Testing is very important. For all of you folks that are healthy with no issues, I am happy for you. But for those of us still trying to figure it out since our medical industry only works on a pill for an ill, and doesn’t look any further, we have to figure it out ourselves.
I have issues with oxalates and high histamine foods so all plants are not my friends. We can’t just generalize today. We need to educate ourselves with books and good videos and see what works for you. Good luck!!
Honestly, you really need to be on Rogan. He has guys like the one you're showing in this video where they are reaching millions of people, and you're information is incredibly valuable. I hope you get on there one day soon.
He has had opposing view points on the show….
He doesn't do that. He'll have 10 people on that agree with him and then when he catches a bunch of shit for it he'll bring one person on with the opposite view. And then, that person will struggle to get their point across clearly because Joe's hitting them with a thousand non-stop questions and anecdotes from his famous "a friend of mine" technique.
Sincerely, someone who used to love Joe Rogan
he should appear on lex I think he usually has better guests
@@lepus6511 Dude, you nailed it spot on.
Priceless info! Thanks a lot Gil!!
One suggestion: If you add Spanish captions to your videos (as well as other languages) you would be reaching a much bigger audience... I just want to share this video with the world!
Thanks again!! 😀
If you have the time to do it, you can actually add Spanish subs to YT vids. I don't remember the details right now but if you search YT there are vids on it. Spanish is a good one because it's so widely spoken.
@@dreamingrightnow1174 Thanks! I'll look into it.
@@dreamingrightnow1174 from what I've seen, it seems that I can only add subtitles to videos I uploaded on my YT channel. This actually makes sense. I don't think YT would let anyone to add captions to someone else's videos just like that. Maybe there is a way...? But I'm guessing it would require coordination with the owners of the channel, and their permission, of course.
I’m an associate professor of neuroscience and a long-standing member of the chemosensory field. My specific expertise is in the taste system. The taste system evolved to serve ingestion of essential nutrients (electrolytes, carbohydrates, and amino acids) and prevent us from ingesting potentially harmful plant toxins (alkaloids). Plant alkaloids are perceived as bitter and are innately avoided. Some of the most toxic substances we know of come from plants, and they will kill you. Some good examples are strychnine and nicotine.
These are well known and essentially not debatable facts about the evolution and purpose of the taste system, as an insurmountable evidence exists.
HOWEVER, most of the plants we eat have been cultivated over many years and a large amount of bitter alkaloids have been bred out. A small amount of toxins may actually be beneficial and I don’t want to get into all of that here, but the point here is the plants we consume from the grocery store are not toxic to us like they are to insects. If they were toxic enough to cause harm, they would be very very bitter. So, you can trust your taste system in that regard.
There’s many mechanisms to prevent us from starving to death, but little to prevent us from over eating. So, simple carbohydrates are highly palatable, because the chances of coming across that in nature, without issues (bee stings when you try to get honey foe example) are rare.
If you find yourself in the wild, I wouldn’t suggest trying to survive on plants unless you have a great knowledge of them. Better to eat meat in that case. BUT, like I said, most of us don’t live like that…so eat a variety of foods to get your protein, fats, vitamins, and minerals. Extreme in any direction isn’t necessary and is unlikely best.
very interesting, tks for the insight!
@@NutritionMadeSimple even more interesting when you look at the evolution of medium and long wavelength cones in the retina and the importance of color discrimination. Lots of plants (nightshades best example) produce toxic alkaloids such as nicotine and derivatives of nicotine and store them in their leaves. They would therefore be bitter and innately avoided. The plant does this, because the leaves are their “solar panels” and requires them to make fruit and produce seeds. Fruits are often yellow, orange, and red. The plant benefits from animals eating fruit, especially birds, because they broadcast their seeds.
The wavelengths of light that activate medium wavelength cones (which are essential for producing the perception green) and long wavelength cones (which are responsible for producing the perception red) are only 30nm apart. But “blue” wavelengths which primarily activates S cones, is 100nm apart. So, green and red perception are very dissimilar (but more physically similar in wavelength than blue and green) but serve an important evolutionary purpose…better to eat the red fruit and live then eat green leaves and face consequences. We are a multi sensory organism and use many sensory systems to aid in our survival.
But like I said…most likely not a problem when you buy your food from a grocery store, which has vetted all the plants for you, lol! These are old systems (taste and smell the oldest), but for industrialized countries this isn’t an issue. I don’t subscribe that being a carnivore or omnivore is THE way to live. Best to get nutrients from a variety of sources. Keep putting the time in on your videos. You will help a lot of people who are on the fence about going to an extreme form of dietary lifestyles
@@nnggghhaa3709 yes. Plants we eat still have alkaloids. They just don’t have enough to kill you. But in the wild, it’s not worth the chance to eat plants unless you’re very knowledgeable of them. Do you find Brussel sprouts very bitter? Everyone is a bit different, but if you can taste “PTC paper” then it would explain a lot. It’s a compound that separates people into categories based on taste sensitivity. It’s genetically linked
@@josephbreza-grappling9459 Appreciate you sharing.
What about fruit? There are many people that believe fruit is the only real source of food for humans?
Thanks for taking the time, compiling all the literature data, and making these videos! much appreciated!
"Most plants are not edible, but almost every animal is edible." Rogan's logic is so blatantly flawed. But that's what successful Internet influencers do: they surf the confirmation bias that a great many people fall for (myself included). That's why channels like Gil Carvalho's are so important, and why I'm so grateful to him.
I don't listen to Joe Rogan, but I heard about this. Amazing the reach some can have.
Yeah i think it always comes back down to the individual. Im overweight, i tried carnivore numerous times, it just doesnt agree with me. I always feel greasy and sludgy and my digestion sucks. I tend to do best on mostly plants with a small amount of healthy protein like fish or a very small portion of steak.
I just found your channel and have to say “well done!!”. I love your videos! I would love to know your thoughts and some scientific facts, if you have any, on hair mineral testing. It seems that this test can help out with getting clear on what we individually need in terms of nutrition and genes and also looks at our metabolism and toxins. This would be super helpful! Thank you so much 🙏🏼 Keep up the good work! 💜
I will never stop eating fruits and veggies ! 57 yrs old..lift 3x a week..walk. I take supplements, eat raw garlic daily. whole eggs are essential !
Essential? 😁
@@Blurred1-h9f lol..yes, very important
Wait, by what means does resveratrol help the body? In that paper you show, it says "mining" plants. Once again, by what means? Digestion or some other method? And is the body actually able to extract the beneficial elements from said plants via digestion and of what percentage? Source(s)?
You've made so much sense. I do about 70% veg 30% meat and exercise 6 days a week.
I found it amusing that one of the ads interrupting this video was an ad about "Beef".
I am a a fan of JRE and also a fan of people intelligently offering detailed information that requires us to think for ourselves. TY
You are the first Doctor who is neither Vegan nor Carnivore who is basing your position based on data. I’ll share this video to others. How these bunch of vegans and carnivores with little info are spreading misinformation is concerning. The meta analysis of RCT for saturated fat is a perfect example.
LDL AND HDL are proteins that transport cholesterol through the body. Why doesn't anyone clarify that so people can understand?!
Great video by the way! What your doing is helping people understand not to run with an idea because u heard it once on a podcast and it fits what u want to hear. Diet change is not easy but can save your life!😃👍
because 99% of everyone here knows it?
Well I didn’t know it. So thank you @dtrain5519 for making it simple. Many people are coming here for the first time and don’t know the basics.
I know you have your 5 meta analyses covering millions of people, but if this heroin is really killing me, then why is it making me feel so good?
In all seriousness, thanks for doing these responses man. I can't make it through some of this stuff without somebody talking me through my frustration.
I read some years back that pure heroin have minimum adverse effects. The problem is with everything that comes with it. It's just hard to get 100% pure heroin. But don't quote me on scientific validity of this information :D
@@mateuszw383 The grant committee to the researchers that submitted that proposal: "Nice try." 😛
I recently replaced my vegan diet with a pure heroine diet. Long story short: I am now the envy of all mankind. But BIG VEGETABLE is trying to silence the truth with their “clinical studies”.
My father-in-law has always had cholesterol levels approximately 150 with low ldl and a good ratio. He had a massive heart attack, several strokes, and now Alzheimer's. All conditions presented in his early seventies.
He never drank or smoked, but he never exercised and did shift work.
do you know if he had high lp(a)? thats a lipid risk factor that's elevated in approx 1 out of 5 people
Excellend video, I am a fan of Pauls work and enjoy his podcasts and ideas but I appreciate the critique and will take it all onboard. Nutrition is complex and personal and every bit of (good) data we can collect to help inform our decisions is worth taking on-board.
One thing I will say in defense of Paul is that he and many others have found the complete exclusion of plants cured auto imune illnesses so he is very invested in his ideas at a personal level and he just wants to help.
thanks for your comment and for being open to discussing things! When we make these videos we try to imagine we're speaking to people who believe the ideas we're evaluating, and how can we scientifically and objectively dissect them while being accurate but not making people reflexively defensive. Otherwise we get into 'my diet is better than yours' ideological battles - the internet doesn't need any more of that :)
I actually have no doubt he's well intentioned. he comes across as a nice guy to me. I wish their approach wasn't so glib in terms of dismissing the fundamentals and basic heuristics, which inevitably leads the bulk of the scientific community to not take their stuff seriously (thereby increasing the communication gap). this effect on autoimmune disease is something that could be looked at (could it be secondary to gastro-intestinal issues? IBS? specific food intolerances? gluten intolerance? etc). did you experience that as well?
@@NutritionMadeSimple I didn't have issues like many Carnivores have. However from a 1-2 week trial where i was nearly 100% carinvore I saw some long term ecsma start to clear very quickly. There probably is a food alergy/intolorence behind that but i never worked out exactly which food. I am more interested in this idea of nutrient dense food, eating nose to tail and trying eat local and seasonal. Fast in the morning, workout every day, sleep well (don't drink or smoke) and avoid processed food as much as possible. So far it appears to be working for me.
@@dafyddgiddins9861 interesting. I was just reading something from a dermatologist on a related topic. you can get tested for specific antigens to figure out exactly what the issue is. that gives you the option in the future to reintroduce all the plants that you're NOT sensitive to, if you so choose
For some people. Raw vegan cured my autoimmune disease too. And for many others.
It’s also worth noting that many people have absolute garbage diets. Their eating mostly processed partial foods. So when they stop doing that, how do we know if it’s the new meat heavy whole food diet or just the fact that they stopped eating partial foods packed with salt fat and sugar? Could they get similar results from whole food plant diet?
The idea that everyone thinks these partial food processed diets are acceptably healthy is silly. I’m vegan. But I don’t care if people want to eat meat. But you can’t really justify these modern partial foods. Nobody intelligent thinks that’s healthy. One thing that’s not debatable about a that all life on earth is designed to eat Whole Foods, not partial processed stuff.
Been seeing a lot more on the carnivore diet lately and it's frustrating trying to see beyond the anecdotal. This is the video I needed to see. Balanced and no vested interested 👍
Saladino had a plaque reading of zero. Presumably this was the from a CC scan - which only shows calcified plaque. He may still have soft plaque, which is more dangerous. He had been a vegan for years prior to taking up keto/ carnivore as well.
Just excercise and eat healthy, avoid eating fast food and boxed foods, avoid drugs and alcohol. Eat fruits, vegetables, and low process meats
Hey there. While I agree with this video, I just want to point out something. You even mentioned it - if something works for you and it is the only option then go ahead. We should not disregard anecdotes because everyone is genetically and biologically different. And while on a large scale, e.g. epidemiological studies and also some RCTs, it might be true that there is a benefit to eating a particular way, the reason might just be that there is a large portion of people that are genetically suited to derive an advantage from it. It might be possible that there is a group of genetically different people that just cannot metabolize some compounds properly and they provide no benefit or even become harmful.
Large scale studies present their conclusions as if "average" person exists and that everyone can benefit from some intervention. Everyone is different and we should consider it. Frequently, studies do not present the individual changes rather just averages - so it can happen that a subgroup of people can have no or small change or even change in the opposite direction compared to the change seen in the averages.
Another interesting thing to mention is that studies done in a developed countries, where the average person is not really healthy (like UK or US), might overstate the effect of dietary interventions. If the baseline health of average participant is already bad, any dietary intervention will look healthy. In a healthy individuals, the effect might be very small even though it is statistically significant. For example it might not be detrimental to eat red meat if your cholesterol is low, you eat plenty of vegetables, fruits and whole grains.
I am really looking forward to the future where everyone will have their genome and microbiome sequenced and will know what food to eat and to avoid to optimize their health.
Smart comment, so very true.
Your videos are improving my health like none other. You’re the best, thank you!
Lectins and Oxalates are not good for some people. So, let people eliminate through diet and see what makes sense to them. My daughter is gluten sensitive. She feels so much better when she doesn’t have gluten. Sometimes gluten sneaks in because she ate meatballs at someone’s house that contained bread crumbs she wasn’t told about. She feels rough. Her paternal grandmother died of colon cancer, Italian, pasta every day. Her dad carries 2 celiac genes, gave up gluten too, all gastro issues resolved. I can eat bread. I don’t though because it makes me crave bread to the exclusion of all other things and it’s not fair to my family when they can’t. I make other bread for all of us and we love it, flax almond coconut flour and psyllium husk, egg whites……all that to say, just try some things, eat whole foods and feel better.
wish this guy would be invited to Rogan's podcast
"this is like a master class in beating around the bush" 🤣🤣🤣 perfect lol
This is such a fantastic resource. Thank you for talking me off (multiple) diet ledges.
IM a bodybuildee for the last 23 years and even I at some point realised i was eating to much protein and from meat and not enough vegetables. I felt the best when i simply started eating a non typical bodybuilding diet thats just balanced everything in moderation i had some fruit some vegetables switched fat sources not just fish oil all the time only.i even had some dairy with yogurt oh my thats forbidden. I felt the best on this and felt like a normal person while doing an extreme sport no one smart would try to do
How on earth did you manage too much protein? Very active people function fine at and under 1g/lb and that's a shitload of food.
I manage 130g-150g of protien, while staying at a 2,000 calories a day. Thank God for the internet b/c I would be drinking protien shakes all day.
@@totalmetaljacket789 I can not manage on too much protein I was on that bodybuilding way of eating to eating 200g of protein at only 5’7 so I didn’t even need that much protein I felt like I was overstuffing myself with food all the time when I was on that bodybuilding bro diet plan , now I cut down my protein to 150-160g and vegan with heavy weight lifting 5x a week
@@jeovanniperez3949 200g at what I'm guessing is well under 200lbs is insane. The intestinal distress must have been immense.
@@totalmetaljacket789 I bet cus I never felt hungry during that time to now I actually look forward to eating
I couldn't tell why even though he was making sense i felt like something was missing or wrong. You explained why i felt that way, it makes sense now.
0:30 Even to herbivorous animals most plants are not edible. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be eating plants. Some herbivores eat only one species of plant their entire lives.
"a Master class in beating around the bush" well put and 😁 Very well anaylsed, Dr. Gil 👍👌👏
I simply cannot take Rogan's advice seriously.
Wow that was great thank you. I am glad Dr Avi reffered me to your channel. So on the money or should I say on the science. I like the longer videos too
I get and respect his arguments, but certainly personal empirical data counts too, no? I was sick all my life (gut wise) until I eliminated plants from my diet. I’m not going to go back to being sick and miserable because of arguments in peer-reviewed studies.
absolutely. science doesn't replace well-being. that would beat the purpose.
the hope is that it can help figure out and resolve the underlying issue(s).
example: th-cam.com/video/FdQexSS0lOg/w-d-xo.html
It's not that it doesn't count. It's just that anecdotal information is prone to misdirection because people tend to frame their own experiences in particular ways regardless if it's actually the best explanation or not. It's the same way tons of people claim to have had their health improved from a gluten free diet, which may very well be the case, but scientifically, there is little to no reason to think it's the removal of gluten itself to attribute those improvements for most people. Most likely, it's that getting away from white bread and sugar/salt heavy pastry types has improve their health, which you often won't get if you take anecdotal data at face value.
It's very likely the same thing with regard to you removing any and all plants. And the vast majority of nutrition science would encourage you to keep an open mind about reintroducing at least some plants to your diet Berries, nuts, and cruciferous vegetables in particular would be good to start off with
What I appreciate the most about your videos is the lack of emotionality.... There's so many endless perspectives on so many endless topics these days. Adding emotion and extremism to the mix just makes wading through the information exhausting. I appreciate your style, Doc.
So grateful I found your channel. A ray of light in the jungle world of nutrition.
I've always thought, maybe, all these carnivore diet, enthusiast, doctors, gurus... are getting paid by the meat industry.
100% especially with the big shift to plant-based lifestyles in the past 10 years
This is the channel where I come to regain my equilibrium. 👍🏾
I think you need to go on Joe Rogan! I did a low carb diet for a year. I lost a ton of weight, but my cholesterol went through the roof. My doctor was ready to put me on a pill. I held off and changed my diet to a lower fat, flexible diet. A year later my cholesterol was cut by more than half. I’m not a scientist, nutritionist, or doctor. I know next to nothing about science. But I am a natural skeptic, and I love how the low carb cult all of a sudden makes the claim that having high levels of ldl is no longer a concern.
@Vegan Babie ~ I’ve been vegan for 13 years, feel better than ever.
11:11 "you're gonna die... but why do I feel so good"
-Everyone with syphalis.
You are a proper scientist , is a beautiful profession and we have to keep going . Good video my friend of science . I am a physicist and biochemist and this is just impressive.
He’s eating carbs now 😂
who?
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I don't get the arguments about eating what our ancestors ate. They also lived short lives - kind of different direction from where we want to go...
Well they did walk all day and had much better testoserone and i dont they died of cancer and being obese
The reason I don't like that argument is simply that it leaves too much room for speculation and deduction. That's not what you want to base medical advice on. What's way more conclusive is performing studies of different sorts to see what results repeat themselves time and time again and forming recommendations based on that.
@@grimvallius8679 Yes, our ancestors were more active and thus more lean, but our ancestors also got cancers. I would wager cancer rates are higher, for sure, but to say our ancestors never got cancers is just not true. Also, which ancestors are we talking about? Pre-Agrarian hunter-gatherers? Bronze age farmers? Iron age fisherman? Stone age neanderthals? We have a lot of ancestors and they all had wildly different diets dependent on what was available and what technologies they had their disposal to aid in harvesting those sources.
That's probably the thing we forget the most in this entire debate. One big reason humanity spread out across the globe was our ability to adapt to almost any food source we could find. We are undoubtedly omnivores. We evolved and thrived because of that fact, not in spite of it.
Thank you for pointing out the differences in research. I am lowering my serum cholesterol using dietary changes. I’m avoiding fish for ethical reasons. I’ve seen an overall drop in total cholesterol since avoiding dairy and meat. My triglycerides are down 40 points! I have high HDL, which may indicate I’m a super-absorber. My Doctor is excited about my results. I plan to focus on exercise and lowering saturated fats in 2023! Thanks again for adding clarity; it is appreciated greatly!
I have a master’s degree in Natural Science so I can read & interpret research and make my own decisions. I don’t owe you or anyone else an explanation. It’s my life.
It's a good point, just because pur annecestors ate particular foods doesn't necessarily indicate they were a healthy people. They could have all been sick, poorly, have digestive issues, hormonal imbalances. All we can do is take educated guesses. Its just difficult to do accurate research on this with modern people.
Absolutely beautiful use of logic displayed by Gil here. Most of his rebuttles to McDoctor were Gil explaining that his argument cant possibly be true simply by the structure of the argument, he didnt even need to address the subject directly. We need more of this in life!😅