MultiVersus: An Answer To The Smash Brothers Series
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ก.ค. 2022
- My thoughts on the Multiversus Open Beta and why it's a solid contender even when compared to a software giant like the Super Smash Brothers series. If you enjoyed the video, make sure to like and subscribe, as it really helps me out a lot.
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I'm gonna be honest, saying that Chrom and Sephiroth play "similarly" really makes me think you have played all of 3 hours of Ultimate
They both use swords. They both swing it around. Sooo different.
@@thatguybis1997 abysmal take but mostly good video
@@thatguybis1997 a wired understatement, it's like saying shaggy and batman are the same because they both primarily punch and kick, but the way they move and attack and combo routes and setups are wildy different for both shaggy and batman and Roy and sepheroph,
@@thatguybis1997 bro ain't no fucking way you just said that, you probably watched one hour of smash gameplay
@@thatguybis1997 you must not have many hours on smash
i feel like you exaggerated smash’s lack of variation
like yeah multiversus as a whole maybe more diverse than smash, but smash isnt that bad in terms of diversity
like yeah sword characters all emphasise spacing, but they do this in different ways
that being said, youre still right about multiversus; i just wanted to defend the 100 anime swordfighters i play lmao
also yes
smash online is dogshit
attrocious
horrible
painful
h e l l
Yeah I may have exaggerated a bit, but they do feel a little too familiar in my opinion.
That’s okay I still low key like them too.
its easy to get all your characters to elite smash. you just need to know the basics and you can win. other fighting games. its nothing like this
@@danman8644 aight im just ass at smash then
I think Multiversus learned a lot from smash bros Ultimate dlc's, were the characters have a lot of his game identity, like the Joker invoking his persona, banjo using his 64 abilities, Steve and his blocks etc. All Multiversus characters i have play i noticed references to their original cartoons
I agree with your review but saying 70% of smash characters feels the same is nonsense. I have played all characters at a competitive level and even the swordies feels differents one to another. For example you dont play Roy the same way you play Lucina or Corrin.
As a casual player I can "KIND OF" agree with the guy in the video. I see the roaster and play as most and honestly don't see much differences, at least compared to Multiversus. However I also enjoyed Brawlhalla more than Smash (in where the characters have identical base moves and the only difference is the weapon sigs for the characters)
@@Nobodyfrom2003 for the casual player it definitely feels the same for most characters but the skill ceiling of smash is outmatched. When playing at a high level characters are vastly different.
@@robertsjordan12 yeah, maybe because of it, cause I never played Smash hardcore, the only ones I have played more hardcore is Brawlhalla and Multiverse recently, Smash just never called to my attention, so maybe is thag
@@Nobodyfrom2003 Is Multiversus still a good game?
@@jjk5693 well Ig you can say it's an alright game, the game is a live one so it's constantly being updated with new characters and bug fixes. However it lacks a lot of stability network wise, servers, and with balances of hitboxes and character moves and stats. Other than that it's a fun game to play once in a while
Great video, except Smash has plenty of variation between characters. Sure, a lot of sword fighters play roughly the same, but not to the point that 70% of the roster is the same as you claim it is.
To me, the characters all feel very similar, hence why i said minor variations. But you’re free to disagree.
@@thatguybis1997 not to be rude but king k rool and mario don't play the same, maybe you main everyone I supposed, but every character has a gimmick that others don't have. Mario has his cape reflector, crazy but tight combos, and can utilize fireball for combos. King k rool has his belly armor that deteriorates when big attacks hit it and can make moves of his more powerful. They are also different weights and there ground and air speed are very different. I'm sorry I respect your opinion but it's kinda dumb to me that you think every character plays the same, because they are not. If you dominate with bowser your not gonna destroy with jigglypuff. Now multiverse is new so maybe that's why it's hard to switch because it's only been out for such little time, Smash had been out for 2 decades. Also the multi platform part, there would be no reason to get a nintendo console if the games were everywhere.
I have a good time playing the game, but after a while i noticed the slow progression in game, the first unlockable character is actually kinda free, but then all the coins start to feel so scarce and unlocking seems soo slow. Im worried that WB interactive monetization is going to make the game not that approachable.
Nah, I’ve unclocked 4 character with 20 houve of game
@@Ashiiru how? I’ve unlocked 1 in 2 days.
I've unlocked 3 characters aswell , I probably would have more if I didnt play custom lobbies too much
@@dizzyking7143 Whenever you level up a character to level 5, you get 100 coins. Do this for all your 4 starter characters, and thats 400 coins
Not much, but it helps
What the others said and also you get more coins in groups, 30% more. So try to play doubles or someone to play with.
That scream from Tom and Jerry on elimination lol classic!
Still need to unlock them lol
finally a good competitor to smash. i love that it has cross play too.
It’s a great feature!
I think rivals of aether and brawlhalla have been great competitors to smash sadly Nintendo does not view them as threats seeing as they don't have as big of a casual audience (especially rivals because it's a paid game)
@@zechariahcaraballo8765 Rivals is great. Basically the only smash clone that feels worth my time.
Is it actually better than Smash?
The character variation and uniqueness what puts this game over the top. And it’s free. Completely nutty .
The full release is gonna be great.
It’s free? Where?
@@lightskintoby507 twitch
@@lightskintoby507 everywhere soon
@@zechariahcaraballo8765 when it fully releases?
Nah bro that arguement for smash feeling EXACTLY the same and having the abiloty to switch between most of them whenever is a complete lie. Sure the FE characters are similar but not the same. You can’t switch from Roy to Cloud without struggling contrary to what you said.
Ikr! He also said Pyra, Sephiroth, and Roy play the same. Like bro, have you played these characters before? 💀
I like the perk system. But in the full game, matchmaking should consider the character level you're playing with, and find similar matches. That way you dont end up playing a level 18 harley when you're a level 3 jake
Only match into people on your level
Well it is open beta
I'm thinking ranked probably won't let you play with a fighter until you can fill their perks or maybe even max them out.
Level 18? Isnt level 15 max
@@myredpanda7692 math is hard
Most people don’t buy smash because of online, they buy it to play with friends
Free, no lag, funny characters, I'm in.
Join in the fun!
There’s definitely lag. Hopefully it gets fixed.
That's wisful thinking fam
@@battlememesbyomari1979 I have experienced no lag. Have you considered it may be an issue on your end? Turning of cross platform might also help
@@zaingamingtv2242 literally I’ve had no lag unlike smash I could barely play online and I live smash
We will have to see what their plans for ranked is but builds that you can do with perks provide interesting ways to for each individual character.
I also love the interesting playstyle some characters can have, like a major (slightly broken) Superman playstyle, is almost completely aerial combat based. Often fighting on the edge of the screen on purpose to kill
def needs to be a ranked system for this to be a promising comp fighting game
there is
It will be added after the beta I think
there is just look at the playlist options. it’s just coming later probably not until full released
it's coming after beta
I think Perks work better for 2s. They encourage the Duo to plan out and strategies what perks will suit the team. Do they wanna go all out with attack perks? or keep it Balanced and have 1 of each type?
In solos, I feel like perks don't work quite as well. While perks encourage you to think as a team and stacking them even boosts them, so I feel like they weren't ment for Solos. Itd be a very nice option to disable in either mode, but I'd only disable it for Solos because it's fun planning a perk layout with a friend before we head into Battle.
Man’s opinion card has been revoked💀
Ain't gonna lie this game makes me appreciate smash even more
Same here
I rly like smash, it's iconic!
I don't like Multiversus 100%, but Crossplay, Cross progression, Rollback Netcode and a Million$ Company with constant updates and support is hard to beat...
I hate that there is no generic block or grab in the game.. but tbh playing with my friends on Xbox and PC? With no laggs? Take my Money!
What you said about the characters playing similar in smash is not true they all play very differently
the differences are minor
@@sophieedel6324 lmao right barely different
@@sophieedel6324 do you have smash
@@kamirikuo8945 No( by using the powers of the UNO REVERSE CARD), DO YOU HAVE SMASH? Because you should know that.
Let me ask you something, Is Sonic and Kazuya play similarly? Yes or no? I mean yeah, they punch and kick but do they play the EXACT Same way?
@@DarkPrince777 nope kazuya is slow af while Sonic is god tier fast so fast I sd because of it
The perks to me is what gives the game even more depth. You could have builds that help in your bad matchups.
I enjoy the perks yes more customization for builds
some things i think the game needs:
1 - starting perks. doesn't have to be anything fancy.
2- - one or two free character unlocks. it kinda sucks you have to play for a while to play the character you want (unless its in the free rotation)
Well, Multiversus currently does have lag issues that will hopefully be addressed in the full release
I think most players just don't have wired internet
I like the perk system more than I thought I would.
Honestly I think Multiverseus is gonna be a fun game to play. Even if it's in the same genre as Smash Brothers. Now do I think it's gonna be a "Oh it's better then Smash" or "Oh it's worse then Smash?" No. Because there can be more then one great platform fighting game. But I will defend Smash Brothers by saying that sure..some characters do fight similarly. Like Marth and Lucina. If you know why Lucina is a echo fighter to Marth. Well lore wise. It makes perfect sense. But not all "Swordies." play the same. Plus it's fun to play as all 82..or 89 characters of Smash cause..well to me. Each one feels like a new experience. Same goes for Multiversus here.
I mean sure I wish Smash's online can be better. But I still enjoy Ultimate for what it is. "A celebration of video-games." And I can see Multiversus as a "Celeberation of Warner Bros." and apparently Lebron James.
But it not a celebration of Warner brother's like smash is to video games it's more like the game of infinite possibilities as the creator has said any character is possible if they can get the license to use them
@@daniellink8727 Whatever the case. That's what it looks like so far. Until I see Goku in Multiversus and not modded in. Then I'll agree to that.
Couldn’t say it better my self great job bro💯
I’m not saying smash ultimate is a perfect game because do think there is problems but saying Roy and sephiorth are The same cus the have swords with that logic are Superman and Batman the same cus they can punch yes multiverse does do some things better but saying two characters are the same cus they have swords Doesn’t make much sense
How many hours do you have on smash?
Did this main just
Roy,Septhiroth and pyra all play the same?
You have to admit that they're not NEARLY as diverse as the MultiVersus cast.
@@thatguybis1997 A lot of people forget this
But the reason they are not as diverse because it’s a family party game
Every character is easy to pick up due to that reason
And also
I mean it’s gonna kill someone if you have to make almost 100 characters completely unique and them kept all balanced
They are not as "diverse" because you are picking 3 chars out of 87, while multiversos has like 15
The roster is tiny so of course it feels more diverse. Strip back the roster of smash to 20 odd characters with Steve, sephy, game n watch etc in like the real whacky ones then you'd say the same.
But if you zoom out, the variety of movesets/characters/playstyles in smash is amazing. It's just not new and shiny anymore. This is. I just played it for hours and loved it. There is great variety in the moves and how the characters move and feel but it won't be long before new characters come in and start to feel samey. I'm hoping they don't, but f2p games make me sceptical. They hook you in then make the grind and quality worse as time goes on. They're psychological warfare and I hate it. I've already noticed the coin grind has slowed after I've leveled up characters. I'm hoping as they secure their fanbase they don't screw with the economy of it.
However the online, perks, progression and skins is absolutely awesome. I just wish I could've paid for the game so we're not subjected to the free to play model which could ruin the game months or years down the line.
Multiverses still can’t compete with how well the hits land and how characters smoothly move in Smash Bros... the hits doesn’t have a meaty feel and the characters move like they’re in reduced gravity. It’s a bit hard to explain but I feel like all the other platform fighters can’t get the meaty hits and finesse in movement. The only other game I find to match this is PlayStation All Stars Battle Royale...
This is one thing that makes me lukewarm about the game. The animation is good but not when it comes to combat as hits look weak. It's also a bit unclear what is going on sometimes probably due to the movelists looking quite unorthodox to how combat actually looks like e.g Velma's movelist.
lmao that’s crazy because ive seen people say the combat feels more fluid
That's just your own personal preference
Stay Frosty, biz
2 min in and I can tell this guy doesn't play much Smash bros 🙄
I've literally competed in tourneys lol.
He does play smash and in a different reply he admitted to exaggerating abit
@@thatguybis1997 last place for sure
@@thatguybis1997 Clearly you were not very good. The comparisons you've made between the FE characters alone are just factually incorrect. The spacing, frame data, combos, and more between even Lucina and Marth are totally different. Then you said Chrom and Sephiroth are similar? You honestly come off as someone who was terrible at competitive smash, and now hope this smash clone will somehow steal away the smash bros player base. Do more research before you make a video with such a bold title.
@@thatguybis1997 Then explain on why you said Sephiroth and Chrom PLAY EXACTLY THE SAME, Did you say that because they’re sword users???
I actually really like the perk system, i didnt like it at first for the fear that it would be unbalanced for players and their characters that arent experienced. But i dont really have any problems fighting someone with 4 perks while trying a new character at level 1. Not only are some of them great references to the series these characters come from, but they also breath life and playability into a character that you might have found weak or boring.
I do think there should be maybe a separate mode for both casual and competitive for the perks, but i really enjoy them in the short time i have played the game.
Bro not even characters with the same moves play similar in smash, like marth and roy play completely different in smash
They share more than half of their moves and general animations bro...
@@nuibaba280 yeah, and still they play completely different
@@robertocastro3310 That doesn't really change that they're far too similar than they should be.
@@nuibaba280 the only thing similar is the moves, and well also chrom and lucina are ECHO fighters, they are suppose to be similar.
@@robertocastro3310 Doesn't excuse it. Marth and Roy share 80% of their moves and animations. That's awful.
Gold grinding is incredibly slow as a matter of fact. Getting the first character is easy with all those bonuses from your first ever game. But afterwards it becomes 12-24 gold per individual matches
It used to be alot higher in the alpha so I'm assuming they might change it on full release
Yep about 100- 150 matches to unlock a character . Crazy part is. Now that I gave the game a try and I actually like it. I will just support the devs and buy the pack. I guess their plan worked on me but only because the game is addicting. And I won’t unlock all the characters just the ones I like. You can test characters you haven’t unlocked in the lab too . Complete class outside of the gold distribution
@@frewrldmusic lmao 150 matches??? I got 4 character with only 7 hours played
@@frewrldmusic I don’t even have 100 wins yet
I would've agreed with you a few days ago, however it seems like they'll have a rotating set of 4 free characters, which alleviates my concern over new players being turned away by the long time investment before experiencing the whole game. Other than that, it's nice to have something to aim for that won't be finished in a week.
Great video! Gave me a good overview of Multiversus and what to expect from the game. However, I do have a small problem with your comment about every character feeling nearly identical. Sure Multiversus has more unique characters from one another overall, but so did the first smash game. Multiversus isn’t nearly as old or as refined as Smash is. I can pretty much guarantee that there will be a character added to Multiversus in the future that is extremely similar to another already existing one. Most of the things you mentioned that make Multiversus characters unique are moves that Smash characters already have. Ex: Batman’s grapple hook. Smash is just as unique as Multiversus in its roster, there’s just more options for people who like the base character, but prefer a slightly altered move set. Of course there are characters that feel very similar to one another in Smash, but would you say Steve and Luigi play the same? What about Pokémon Trainer and Dedede? Yes, echo fighters are really just filler, but at least people have the option of an echo fighter over no echo at all. Isn’t one or two options better than none? I really hope Multiversus expands and grows to the size of Smash just so WB can really show how creative they can be. Just remember, just because characters have swords doesn’t make them the same fighter. “Both Sub-Zero and Guile fight with their fists do that must mean they play exactly the same, even though they’re in in two separate series’!”
>Extremely similar to another one.
Unlikely. PFG is actually EXPERIMENTING more while Smash had the guts to give Sora the same basic down B counter as a special that's been overused since Marth in Melee. Iron Giant is the first colossal archetype for example, Ridley on the other hand was extremely basic. Didn't even get his signature tail pogo move from Metroid.
I understand, but if Multiversus becomes popular enough post-launch, they might have to add clone characters in order to keep up with fan’s demands. Take Fortnite for example. Epic Games was not expecting the massive wave of players that came to the game early on. That meant that many fans expected scheduled, timely updates, which Epic Games did not have the resources to satisfy. As a result, developers were pushed, and given less time to create brand-new content for the game, which meant that they had to reuse many elements and character/weapon models in order to meet fan expectations. That’s an extreme example, but even on a smaller scale, free-to-play games need to have quicker, more numerous updates than full $60 games. Sure WB has lots of content to pull from but if they want to be able to meet the fans expectations, they may have to cut corners somewhere. To keep F2P games going for long stretches of time, it takes much more effort and resources than pairs games. I’m not saying it’s a certainty, but I find it very likely that it will happen sometime in Multiversus’ lifetime. Smash was able to take its time with DLC. That’s why every new fighter added post-launch was really unique, maybe except for the thing you mentioned but that’s really pushing it considering all the new moves and gameplay possibilities the DLC fighters added. Steve and Piranha Plant are good examples. There’s no other fighters in the game who play even remotely close to them, plus you get Smash’s more refined gameplay to go along with them. I just think that Multiversus has a much larger uphill battle than Smash in order to stay popular for the long-term.
@@TVG_Noble No they don't. All they have to do is add CONTENT. Alts and stages will fill the gap between characters. Btw, they work on these characters far in advance. MVS is also simpler than Smash with way less animation and even animation quality needed. MVS has the resources, it's backed by motherfucking *Warner Bros* . Characters are the selling point of this game and they're given the most thought. They won't shoehorn clones and the devs confirmed they have no intention of ever adding echo fighters to MVS.
Yes, I get that the characters are the main appeal, but every F2P game has to cut corners somewhere. Even if clone fighters are never added, which I still doubt that out of the whole history of of the game there won’t be a single one, things have to be reused or retooled. I’m also doubtful about how much workforce WB actually has to work on the game. Yes WB is a huge company, and Multiversus does have a bit less effort needed in order to add things to the game, but Nintendo is still a larger company, and Smash Bros. Is a flagship franchise, meaning that Sakurai has as much resources and money as he needs for development. For a new business venture, Warner Bros. won’t put all hands on deck for the creation of the game, in case it flops. It probably won’t but it’s better to be safe than sorry, especially for a company that’s been bleeding money since the pandemic started. They’ll probably wait until maybe the middle of Season 1 to really put forth full effort, but that’s not completely certain. Sure alts and stages can help fill gaps but that only gets you so far. They probably have content ready for the next season or two but it’ll be difficult for them to sustain a long-term player base without full investment, which WB is generally unwilling to do, and for good reason. They’ve filled a gap in the market, but I won’t be surprised if they’re out-competed within a few years. That happens all the time when one company sees another do well in a new market. MVS might have to take the fall in order for competition to succeed. They’re kinda in a tough spot and I think WB realizes this. Why do you think the roster and stage selection is so limited right now? Not because they are gatekeeping content for later seasons, but because they don’t want to risk everything. If they really wanted to put enough effort into sustainability, don’t you think there’d be many more characters and stages than there will be at launch? I don’t think anything is certain that I’ve said, but I think it’s all highly likely. I understand what you’re trying to say but just filling gaps with alts and a few stages might not be enough. Don’t you feel like it’s more reasonable that maybe a few months done the line they decide to make a clone because they need to fill a drought? The F2P market will eat them alive if they’re not careful. I still think it has lots of potential to succeed though.
@@TVG_Noble This F2P game is already cutting corners. Look at the stage to character ratio. The simplistic art style. Or the overall animations + lack of grabbing and shielding when comparing to Smash's insane animation detail. "Things have to be retooled" no they don't. You can make unique movesets just fine, you're doomposting for the sake of doomposting without looking at the reality of the game. Numerous characters have been datamined, enough to fill the rest of this year and the beginning of the next, if not longer depending on how they stretch this out.
They're not wasting efforts on a clone character nobody gives a shit about. Otherwise they would've made Uncle Shagworthy and favorites like Cake clones rather than variant skins. Authenticity is MVS' biggest selling point and lazily representing a unique character as a clone goes against their vision.
7:22 Is that a challenge?
Oh it’s a challenge all right!
You made some decent points about Smash. About the rematch system, and online play. I get that. I don't play it as much. But will if friends want to hop on. A lot of the characters in smash play very differently. Most of the sword characters do play the same because 8 of them are from Fire Emblem. 75 percent of the cast is a bit excessive.
I think Multi versus will do well and has a place in platform fighter genre for sure. Not going to bash other platform fighters because that isn't what i play. If you like it cool play it.
I’m so addicted to this game already to the point where I wanna do other things but I just can’t put this game down. Help!
Got me with having American cartoons as it’s characters, but stayed because it’s a funny ass game 😂
i like how he uses smash bros. music as bgm
The music is great lol
@@zechariahcaraballo8765 yeah it is
Smash still destroys it in that department.
I definitely agree with the criticism that smash has far too many sword characters, it’s why I personally preferred they put in more forgotten or less known gaming mascots who had a semblance of a franchise. I literally have a list too long that includes Zen the intergalactic ninja and Arthur from GnG to the Jersey Devil
Saying chrom, sephiroth and cloud are the same is criminal. No way u played smash that much. Sword characters are similar but not all are them are the same. If u going to compare , compare the clones that smash has like peach n daisy, marth n lucy, samus and dark sam, rictor n simon, and maybe all the links, captain n ganon. they all have similar moves but different start speeds n hitstun. Those are the only chars that really look dam near the same in all their moves. Roy chrom n ike have similar moves to but not clones.
A lot of people are butthurt about my smash comments but I have to say, I stand by them. I did say they have minor variations between them, but that’s all they are. Minor.
@@thatguybis1997 Yea.... character creation, over 1000 songs. 50+ stages, 50 plus battle items, campaign mode with mini games on the side. Fleshed out characters with actual weight to them isn't minor...
So you listed everything but specifics about what makes each character different.
I’m asking about character diversity, not how many extra goodies and “songs” Nintendo decided to include.
@@thatguybis1997 Smash Bro literally has Steve from Minecraft fighting goddamn Sephiroth. How much more diverse do you want a video game fighter to be 🤣
@@thatguybis1997 You are actually just wrong, nobody is butthurt lmao. The more traction this video gets, the more people will clown you. Keep standing by those comments.
One thing I especially like about Multiversus is the fact that they were able to give certain characters really weird gimmicks, but they still made those characters somewhat balanced. Iron Giant for example.
One of my fav things about smash is how diverse it is and how crazy every character feels. Each character has a unique move set and feel and strategy. Yes they have echo fighters and some characters are similar, but it’s a very small percentage. Even the 3 links they have play differently. Ganon and falcon are basically echos yet are totally different.
Nick all star I wasn’t hyped for and it died bc of the lack of uniqueness I feel.
I’m super excited for Multiversus bc of the uniqueness and diverse characters. Like Batman does not kill, and we see that in his character in this game, he does great up close and hits hard but lacks kill power. So cool. Tom and jerry fight each other. So cool.
Smash is never going anywhere anytime soon, especially the great competitive scene. If it can survive COVID and having to go online and comeback stronger, it’s here to stay.
But Multiversus is already to an amazing start, I think it’s gonna be here to stay unlike nick.
In smash every character is the same
@@devoringdemonsoulq9086 you soundin dumb asf rn
My concerns with Multiversus are the
1. Inappropriate character choices. Maybe it’s just Space Jam 2 leaving a bad taste in my mouth, but why GOT characters or Rick and Morty?
2. Monetization. A lot of things seem heavily pay to win.
1. Um because Game of Thrones and Rick and Morty are two of their most successful shows in recent years, even if you don’t like the shows, you can’t deny success they brought, so why the hell would you not put them in the game?
2. So far all the stuff being monetized are mostly cosmetic, there are no pay-to-win transactions to be found. Yeah, I know it sucks and can be improved on but at least the game free to play and it’s at least optional to actually spend money on the game.
@@Juanhernandez-zx7kt
1. Who is the target demographic of the game?
@@austinreed7343 A wide demographic of anyone who likes the Warner IPs that show up in the game.
@@nuibaba280
I suppose the “super-broad” approach could work. Just gotta wait for my favorites.
Feela good to be able to play as tom and jerry.
Only downside is I've had some hella laggy matches, and just in general some attacks just dont hit when they should or hit when they shouldnt. Like in The Lab you can charge Arya's neutral lunge into saggy visually see ur sword in his body. Yet nothing. No damage, No push, nothing
That’s a teleport when that sword is in the body not for damage but to teleport to them and follow up
Thought I was the only one. I stopped playing the game for this reason. It feels really loose and wild to
Just started playing today I’ve been playing smash since N’64 and i gotta say im enjoying this a lot more, im just so shocked that this is the first game in years thats hasnt come out broken at all and its good af .
Just wait for the meta to progress, right now its easy to say that multiversus is soo diverse, its new. But the reality is multiversus also has similarities on a lot of their character, for instance I think most characters has a down air that spikes, and most of them have jab combo that can cancel into some dodges/special/jump. I don't think having similar character is a problem especially in a fighting game with 90 characters, otherwise how tf are you gonna learn 90 matchup? Also, multiversus is a lot of fun for me, but is it gonna be fun in 1 year down the road? Like im pretty sure you're not gonna hit as much down spike in 1 year, people will get better.
Having a spiking move or jab combo doesn't make a character similar. Especially when the way they swing and their overall mechanics are far more unique.
@@nuibaba280 yes it does? Most up airs are the same too, most combo opener are pretty similar. The way you play neutral is also pretty similar from character to character. I don't think its a bad thing tho. Neutrals across all characters are pretty similar, but specials are pretty unique. But that way you can learn characters faster since you only have to learn the specials.
@@dartsam001 No it doesn't lmao, that's arbitrary dumb logic. That's like saying a Mario and DK are super similar in moveset just for having spikes. Those are basic moves that still function differently and fail to account for the character mechanics and specials. Neutrals are far from similar nor are the combo openers similar. They don't even look the same and characters like Finn having chargable strong attacks while Steven + Wonder Woman can float throughout certain moves create vastly different combo games.
There are 82 smash characters of course there will be overlap especially if your gonna look at characters in the same archetype being sword fighter
Smash has lots of character Variety but also lots of overlap (like how most swordys feel the same) I can easily make a smaller smash roster of unique characters, not that multiversus roster is not amazing, I and do agree that it has much better online than smash bros, and think multiversus will be a great rival to smash, also I never hear anyone call a platform fighter a "smash like" except when they are saying the game is more than a smash like, thought that was funny to point out, overall your video was a great review of multiversus but undersells smash's roster a bunch (sorry about the long comment)
Agree I play smash 64 and ultimate and when I play smash 64 every character feels different but when you have a bigger roster like in ultimate it will have more similar moves even then all the characters play differently and have mostly unique moves.
1:26 Proceeds to show characters who play completely different from each other.
Sephiroth does not play like anyone else lmao. He’s the only sword fighter I can use 😂 Kazuya and Ken are also legit .
A few things sephiroth is more of a zoner then a actual sword fighter pyra and mythra play differently and you need to balance when to switch to be effective
Tell me a character in smash similar to incineroar
Tell me a character in smash similar to Ridley.
Even among characters with similar archtypes there are vast differences link (another zoner) wants to trap opponents with his bombs and boomerangs while doing massive damage with his sword
Samus another zoner will want to trap people as well yes but is a zoner shield punishing character with a lot of her moves doing damage to shields
Solid video but not researched enough
Perks are definitely an essential part of the game. They offer you the ability to change and build around losing matchups without needong a secondary
On south america the online green bar does not exist
For me the internet is horrible, I have a constant 1 bar connection in every game with characters lagging around and zipping all over the place, I'm able to handle it and still love the game. I think the issue I have is I just live really far away from the closest server, for me Smash's internet is better but I prefer Multiversus in general
I recommend a wired connection but most players don't seem to use it anyways
@@zechariahcaraballo8765 I have a wired connection
By time u unlock half the characters it slows all the way down
Smash main and Multiverse main?
Shaggy on Multiversus. My main in Smash was Roy back when I played it heavy.
Honestly I never sat there and play smash for a long period of time. In my opinion having to jump button at the same button to do a different moveset it just makes a game awkwardly controlled they're a big fan of it simply having a different jump on makes a game combat a lot more fluent cuz it sucks when I'm trying to do a up attack and a character starts jumping like a jackrabbit so annoying and smash ultimate looks so cartoony never really sat down her and say I'm going to spend time with this I gave her a shot but the game never really tell me to play it more that makes sense multiverse felt like in New was doing and I got the incentive to play more and the characters yeah echo fighters and a lot of other characters do play similar to a point why even play certain characters like I'm playing character A what's the point playing character B C or D.
The meat riding is crazy. Gold is such a grind, stop defending everything.
This is one instance where I think it's justified to say, it's free to play, what are you complaining about?
All the characters feel the same because the game has been out for so long so it’s hard to find who to play now.
Yea tbh the combat in MV does need some tweaking but way better then smash! I just need the Teen Titan in the game!
This would be great as an e-sports fighting title. I am really tired of seeing street fighter every year.
It gonna be at evo this year
@@chavaperez8445 oh cool thanks
Not a smash stan by any means but it's nonsense to say smash doesn't have character diversity. Yes multiversus characters feel very unique and distinct from each other and yes there are characters that play similarly to each other in smash but there is tons of diversity in smash's roster. Saying Roy, chrom, sephiroth and cloud all feel similar to each other discredits the point entirely. Of those listed characters, literally only Roy and Chrom play similarly. The other two are entirely unique. We don't have to trash smash to gas up MV. It's OK, both can exist and be great games.
Smash has things that Multiversus doesn’t do well at all.
But character diversity is not one of them.
@@thatguybis1997 the cap
Dafaq is this playback speed ?
What do you mean?
@@thatguybis1997 the whole video was playing with no sound and like 0.25x speed last night, it works normal now.
The game is definitely gonna last a long time but if they put the game on switch the game would last way longer
I liked smash a bit didn't play pvp very much. I very much like versus alot im almost at 300 wind online. I feel like it's better than smash for me.
Lets be real smash fucked itself because of its online because online is the big thing that makes people come back.
Bro "almost every character plays exactly the same" you dont knwo any idea you are talking about
Multiversus physics are so weird compared to smash,
There's no stupidly broken character,
No dlc (up for debate),
No crossovers
They fixed Taz?
@@xenophacilus5895 nk
multiverse is trash
"No stupidly broken character"
Taz: "Am I a joke to you?"
Hey Multiversus developers if you are reading this comment please add The Mask in this game. You would make many fans happier.
2:23 hmmmmmm melee
bro the multiversus meat ridin here is crazy asf. would’ve been better from a non bias perspective. clearly you appear as bias towards multiversus. I am excited for multiversus but to bash the main game this game took inspiration from is crazy. this game makes me appreciate smash and it’s legacy
Smash does not have the character diversity Multiversus has.
How in any way is that bias?
Smash beats Multiversus at a lot of things, but character diversity will never be one of them.
@@thatguybis1997 Considering Warner Brothers has been around longer than actual Nintendo IPs and own more property, its no shocker they have more to work with. Quality will always Trump Quantity however.
@@thatguybis1997 this is just completely false
This game needs to be free to play
Multiversus is free to play just still in beta
okay video, but terrible takes. Also I don’t know if this is intentional but you said that you have to choose a stage online.
you really can’t..
problems I have are:
You said 200 hours is too much time in smash;
people can play a game as long as they want and considering the game is 4 years old, that’s reasonable as I have 345 hours and have been playing for a year.
You said that 2 hours to unlock a character isn’t too long.
In smash, you get a character every match. You could get all 70+ characters of the base roster in that time.
You say you compete in tourneys, but say that chrom and sephiroth are similar because they both have swords
I said this in a reply,
but that’s a garbage take and is stupid,
that’s like saying crayons and apples are similar because they are both edible.
Edit: you also said that the differences between chrom and sephiroth are MINOR.
1. They have completely different movesets.
2. They have completely different looks.
3. They are from completely different franchises
Also basically you called people who had valid arguments “butthurt.”
Although, I will agree smash online is abysmal, but you said if your games online is bad, people won’t be playing it for very long.
I, can no joke, right now get on my 3ds with smash 3ds ( which arguably has a worse online mode ) and still find matches in less then a minute.
The game released almost a decade ago. People might not talk about it, but some people play it.
Also another thing about the characters, you said you unlocked a character after 2 hours. 2 x 19, that’s 38 hours straight of gameplay to unlock the full cast.
Plus you said that perks in multiversus are like having items on. Dude, perks really don’t do THAT much. If you were actually good at the game, perks wouldn’t matter. It’s a game about skill.
I highly doubt your 3ds claim. Plus, yeah it’s fucking smash bros dude. But generally yeah, a bad online means a dead game almost instantaneously.
Smash is such a huge exception to that rule.
@@thatguybis1997 when you were talking about a bad online you were specifically talking about smash bros and now you’re saying it doesn’t apply to smash? My dude, keep it consistent.
As the only person I think that agrees with your opinion about how smashes fighters are pretty similar I think this video is good but hey that’s my opinion.
So zss and samus are the same? Stfu 🤡
Roll back netcode is destory8mg this game. All the games are buggy messes online
I stopped watching the video at 1:50 and you ?
And here goes the people in the comment thread trying to protect the old guard and status quo as if their lives depend on Smash remaining #1. Just go play Smash and let this one have it's moment to shine and be the next big thing. Jeezus.
We can have an opinion on a video if we want. If he doesn't like it, he can turn off the comments.
@@CipherBay That's true. But I can have an opinion about your opinion if I want. If you don't like it, you can scroll past. It's a two way street and all that doesn't take away the fact that y'all are trying to protect the old guard. Y'all have gotten so use to the status quo, that y'all refuse to accept anything different that's built on that same foundation and are quick to mock, shame, and slander it and call it a "clone" to diminish it's significance of being it's own thing. By that logic, every 2D fighter is a Street Fighter clone or every 3D Fighter is a Tekken clone. It's a weak argument and nothing more than a coping mechanism because people are scared of change. You guys act as if the platform fighter genre is only exclusive to Smash and act as if y'alls lives are dependent on Smash remaining #1 as if Sakurai is some immortal god that can do this forever. My whole point is to let this game be it's own next big thing, if you don't like it, don't play it and go back to your old guard, and come up with a better argument than a "it's not like Smash" argument. That's the point, Tony didn't design it that way. So It makes the opinion weak.
@@CGImpala yea im not reading all that, stay mad at peoples opinion i guess... 🤟
@@CipherBay I know, staying in denial is more lucrative than facing reality in today's backwards society. Some people don't have the "mind capacity" to keep their mind on one thing. Stay mad at your status quo being challenged now. 😁
@@CGImpala whatever helps you sleep at night kid.
Brawlhalla is also a good smash game
Smash bros hater alert!
Lol not a hater maaaan I’m just saying there’s some differences okay
@@thatguybis1997 Yeah it's all right. Don't take me seriously. I just stopped watching the video after hearing that so many fighters are extremely simular in SSBU like the swordsfighters. But I absolutely don't agree with that.
>Smash bad because swords
I can't wait to witness the butthurt when more "Game of Thrones" and "Lord of the Rings" characters get added to the game.
There won't be butthurt because MVS knows better than to make them share moves and a random down B combo. They even gave SORA and SEPHIROTH counters. Arya's dagger special and backstab mechanic is more unique and sicker than all of the swordies' specials.
Buddy they gave me fighter a counter as well are the same as also no them having an ability is not the same as the same move by hay logic ryu and little Mac are the same because they hit people. There not also sora and sethiroth are completely different he’ll even their counters are different one is counter that have to perfectly time while the other is a counter that depletes other time as well as counting as a small damaging offensive move
You are obviously paid advertising. A hit piece on smash to boot.
You compared roy to cloud and sephiroth, saying they all play the same!?!?!? Echo fighters I get, but Roy and sephiroth aren't even close to similar. You must be bad at smash
This game is nothing like smash tho
Straight up reaching saying this game is better than smash 🤣 Multi Versus is just Brawlhala with extra steps. Yea the characters have their own moves (wow shocker) but they all weigh the same. They all float in the air like Nick Brawl Stars. This wont ever come close to beating smash and the closest competitor was Playstation All stars for actually having a different playstyle and how to win.
Nah. Brawlhalla is actually ass.
"Almost every character plays exactly the same" Stopped watching there.
*Let's compare the two on main aspects :*
*- Gameplay :* - Both equals - both have unique and really fun gameplay - while Smash can be seen as more complex with shields and grabs, but Multiversus also stand out by its innovations like teamwork mechanics, a more complex dodge system, experimental characters like The Iron Giant and the perks system. Both game are also very diverse in terms of character diversity - with easy and accesible ones, and more complex and hard to master ones. So on that level, I would say both games are equal.
*- Stages :* - Smash wins - Smash Bros is definetely above in terms of stages. For the number of stages alone. Smash has a lot of stages unlike Multiversus (but no doubt Multiversus will have more). But also, Multiversus seems to aim for more "competitive fitting" stages, therefore making stages less unique than Smash bros ones. They fill like little variations with different pictures used as background, no moving stuff or anything. Let's hope to see some moving or more unique stages in the future of Multiversus.
*- Roster :* - Multiversus wins - Smash Bros has an amazing roster with great names from the video game industry and history, and some amazing 3rd parties. But the extent of Warner Bros ownerships and the fact that Multiversus has no limitation, has Lebron James recent addition proved, makes Multiversus potential huge. We will have to wait and see what 3rd parties are added, but on this I would say that with time, Multiversus has the potential to get a roster cooler than Smash Bros.
*- Content :* - Smash wins - Multiversus has for sure some good content, having to pay gold coins for characters gives a grind and accomplisment feeling. It gives you a reason to play, because there's always that one character you still need to unlock. As for the coin earning rate, it's indeed a bit slow but will 99% get fixed by the devs because devs seems to be really close and listening to the community. There's also the skins, emotes, banners, badges etc. Multiversus already has the ability to keep players playing the game, but it's not infinite and requires the devs to be constantly adding new stuff. When it comes to gamemode, it's where Multiversus gets a bit lacking and the game definetly needs more gamemode. Smash Bros on the other side has totally understood that. The longevity and replayability of Smash Bros is almost infinite, and it achieves that without unlockables, but with gamemodes. Smash has the special smash mode, tournament mode, squad mode, classic mode, adventure mode, spirit board, home run mode, 1vs100 and All Star modes, stage creater etc. So yeah, Smash wins in terms of content, but lets see how things evolve in the future of Multiversus.
*- Online mode :* - Multiversus wins - Multiversus devs knew beforehand that this would be a huge deal, and they nailed it - Multiversus online is suprisingly smooth, unlike the atrocious Smash Online experience, and it's a huge deal for Multiversus.
*- Attention to details and authenticity :* - Both equals - this category is for little stuff that makes the game feel alive and authentic. I'm talking about things like references to character's source materials like for example how the screen turns blurry when you crouch with Velma because she looses her glasses, voiclines, or even interactions between 2 characters from different licenses. It could seem non-important, but is actually a huge deal. It makes the characters feels authentic and it adds a lot to the gameplay. A lack of that kind of stuff is a fatal mistake like the failure of Nickelodeon All Star showed. Fortunately, both games are doing an amazing job on this.
*- E-sport potential :* - Smash wins - I would argue that right now Smash wins it. I'm not talking about the already established smash e-sport here but more about the potential. Multiversus has improvements to do on their 1vs1 which are lacking due to the game being too 2vs2 centered. Because even though 1vs1 are fun to watch, there are characters who are clearly more fitting the 1vs1 setting than others at very high competitive levels, and it's a problem - because if the scene is lacking of diversity, then the e-sport is less interesting. On that regard, Multiversus needs to release characters made for duos like Lebron James, but also characters made with a 1vs1 focus in mind, like the Assassin class in the game seems to be for right now. As for the viewer perspective, Smash is probably more fun to watch, just because of the hit animations and smash attacks when the screen freeze a bit with the huge impact and that classical ejection sound. Multiversus lacks in that regard, but could improve and has huge potential. I personally hope it becomes the smash bros sucessor.
*- Price :* - Multiversus wins - well not much to say here, Multiversus is free to play and is therefore able to drag a lot more players and is way more accessible.
I disagree. E-sport potential for Multiversus is better because PFG and Warner are actually supporting a tourney scene while Nintendo straight up removed Smash from EVO. That's a problem.
Saying the smash roster feels the same is the most baffeling thing i think i have ever heard. Even the echo characters play vastely differently form their original counterparts. And then saying multiversus characters are unique unlike smash bros seems hypocrtitical as almost all attacks i have seen in multiversus have a smash bros counterpart with very few exceptions.
I wholly disagree on echo fighters playing vastly different, that’s just false.
Smash’s roster does just not allow for the characters to play different, because there are so many of them.
Whether that’s a bad thing is somewhat subjective I guess, but to me, it’s a negative.
I wholly disagree on echo fighters playing vastly different, that’s just false.
Smash’s roster does just not allow for the characters to play different, because there are so many of them.
Whether that’s a bad thing is somewhat subjective I guess, but to me, it’s a negative.
@@thatguybis1997 just out of curiosity, how many hours do you actually have on smash ultimate?
"Almost every character plays exactly the same" Yeah what do you expect with a roster of like 80 characters?? Back when Smash had as few characters the diversity was vast. AND those archetypes still exists in smash, plus more!
I don't really like how the game feels. NASB is better on every level other than presentation.
The Perk system is the main reason I'm not gonna reinstall the game. But hey at least the online was playable and buttery smooth.
That's a weird reason. Perks aren't important in the slightest.
@@nuibaba280 It's the whole F2P model in general. I'm just not about it. I don't wanna play a fighting game where someone who's played more or spent more money has an in-game advantage. It's simply unbalanced and I refuse to be incentivized to grind the game or pay money.
The game isn't even fun enough for me to be tempted. All it's got is presentation and cool characters.
I'll just stick to Melee, Rivals of Aether, and NASB (with the occasional Ultimate.)
After playing multiversus this game will not be any type of answer competitively speaking to smash. This game has WAY to little hitstun for a fighting game to the point where it feels like advantage and disadvantage does not exist. The combo potential is kinda low as well since hitstun is low and dodging is so overpowered. It feels like they are purposely cutting the creativity in combos so casual players won’t get stomped. If they add more hitstun or less end lag on moves I can see this game being really creative and smooth but as it is now it’s just a fun game but not for tournaments. I think if you guys want this game to thrive competitively we should be pretty vocal to the developers to adding more hitstun to actually have me freedom in combos and make them actually consistent. It will make it a LOT more fun for spectators to watch. I mean most people are already saying it looks kinda bad and chaotic to watch even if it is fun to play. But I will say I haven’t turned it off since I started playing so I do want this game to win
Plus your take on smash like other people said is just not true. Mario, peach, samus, cloud, marth, rob etc etc all play DRASTICALLY different and have so much character in their animations.
Have you played this game? Combos definitely exist. Smash university made a video about combos in this game.
@@fortnitebattleroyalefreevb9360 dude that was a video from the alpha and LOT of those do not work anymore. I have a 86% win rate and the only reason I lost sometimes was because I had to get up from the game. This game does NOT have a ton of combo potential. Because the hitstun is low. Especially compared to other fighters. I mean even Batman who is combo oriented is only getting 2-3 hit combos before the opponent getting to reset.
@@tsukune2910 that’s cap or just skill issue Batman can get a damn near 8 hit combo, ever heard of attack canceling that’s a thing in this game
@@africanking3730 bro it’s not a skill issue lol. Out of the training room you not getting most of these combos because they aren’t true. Even the few tournaments this game has had so far from highest ranked online players there combo strings are short. From top 10 smash players to even sonic fox your not getting long creative combos. You guys see training room combos and think they translate over well into an actual match when they do not unless your opponent puts down the controller. Dodge is WAY to strong and this is coming from someone who wins most matches lol. This game needs more hitstun and you guys are arguing against something that would be a positive change for the games creativity. I’m not saying I dislike the game, I haven’t stopped playing but I don’t think some of these changes would definitely help lol. But like I said we will see where this game is in a few months and if it’s really a answer to smash. 🤷♂️
Bruh you have some pretty ass takes on SSBU. Sephiroth and Roy play exactly the same? Really guy? 3 second input delay? Come on dude I'm here for multiverses but you cant take a big steamer on smash like that just to inflate it, at least be honest
Smash doesn’t have the character diversity Multiversus has. That’s the honest truth.
@@thatguybis1997 only characters Multi Versus has going for it is Batman. Shaggy, Iron Giant and maybe Tom and Jerry....
Your opinion.
Maybe Tom and Jerry?
That’s THE most unique character in the cast. But sure, maaaybe Tom and Jerry.
@@thatguybis1997 Its Warner Bro so literally anything they add is diverse because nothing they own wasn't originally a video game character. They were shows, comics and movies. Smash Bro, everything started out as a video game.
One thing I hate about multiversus is the shitty unlocking system, smash bros does that better
Smash bros also costs 60$
@@nickbutts4561 yea but does that mean the game being free justifies everything?
I’m just going out of a limb here but judging by the way you talk in your video I assume you’re an anti-Nintendo and not a fan of smash brothers are you?
You’d be wrong. I own a Switch, how else would I have captured that Ultimate gameplay?
It took me less than 2 min to realize you may have played smash for 5min and made this video. I'll unsubscribe you don't need my 1 sub Lmfao good luck bro
I really don’t need your one sub brotha. Good riddance!
No le llega ni a los talones a smash
In my opinion this game is 1,000x better than smash ultimate
Not that much
Your opinion is wrong, but I respect it.
Based
meat ridin is crazy here
I wonder how many dislikes this video has.
90% ratio.
@@thatguybis1997 makes sense given what the comments are saying about your very terrible takes