Manectric Only - Pokemon Emerald
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ธ.ค. 2023
- Rules:
1. Only my starter in battle
2. No items in battle, except held items
3. No glitches, exploits, save states, or RNG manipulation
4. No evasion moves before level 100*
Rule details:
-- *In gen1, evasion boosting is allowed if the Pokemon does it through means other than learning the move by level up or TM. For example, using Mimic or Mirror Move to boost evasion is allowed. (This exception is to keep ranking consistent with my legacy videos.)
-- I am allowed to manipulate my starter
-- I play the game at 4x game speed
-- For fair comparisons all my Pokemon have perfect (or near perfect) DVs / IVs
-- I am allowed to catch HM users - I can use all field moves
-- All in-battle glitches are allowed in generation 1
-- In generation 1, I'm allowed to skip Marowak with the Poke Doll
-- Surge's trash-can-puzzle is automatically solved
-- The bike is allowed in gen1, banned in gen2, and allowed for bypassing terrain in gen3
-- Saving between league members is allowed
-- If the solo Pokemon faints and I choose to blackout it counts towards my reset counter
-- I can pause the game and timer to take breaks
-- The footage is sped up / slowed down to match the pace of my narration
-- The ability Pickup can only be used if the starter has it
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On the sixth day of December, Scott's Thoughts gave to me:
Wattson's ace in Hoenn
'Phan v Ursaring!
A tiny turtle's bubble
The fire starter digging
A garden lizard's leech seed
And those three weirdo mons punching
whats funny is that its less often been his ace then magneton
You could've not posted this, you should've not posted this
I wanna see this updated every day!
My favorite comment of each video
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For those of us that don't have all the nature's memorized, perhaps you could put the negative stat in red text and the positive stat in green text
Pokemon uses red for the boosted stat and blue for the lowered stat
Or just listen at the beginning lmao
If you haven't memorized the natures are you even a fan
@@derekberthiaume5367 elitism help Noone, dick
@@derekberthiaume5367yes, actually, because people can be more casual fans of the media they choose to enjoy. no one likes a gatekeeper for a children's game, man
I love daily December Scott. Thank you for being an absolute boss
I second this!
Me too!
Third
They release at about 5 am here in australia, something fresh for the ride in to work!
I feel like it would be smart to use a neutral nature in first playthroughs, that way you can see where the Pokémon struggles and choose a nature accordingly, just like hidden power. For now though, I hope you have fun learning more about this beautiful game
Hey Scott, friendly reminder that thief is super good against Tate and Liza's final two pokemon. They both have sitrus berries, and you can just steal em for way more recovery than the shell bell.
Also hidden power water is a little weird in gen 3, I think you coulda got a lot more utility outta grass or ice instead
Thief is really hard to use before it got 60 BP imo
It looks super dangerous to use a 40 BP attack in a 2v2 at this level
It might be okay if you can somehow use thief to take them from above half to zero with it. It might be good for dark types with STAB? It will be super effective after all.
@@Naxhus2 Yeah if you know that you have the two turn kill with thief + something it becomes really good
But the window between that and being able to kill in one hit with your best attack is small
@@ryomaanime4563 It might also be good for water types who have surf that need to get damage in on the final 2 pokemon to secure the one hit? Thief + thief + surf. ... Though, yeah, the cases for utility are becoming increasingly niche unfortunately.
I wouldn't be too surprised if naughty is better than rash anyway for a lot of special attackers that get physical coverage. It probably depends on which specific challenges a pokemon faces more so than which moves it prefers to use to overkill grunts
Since you're howling so much anyway naughty may be best here.
We’re gonna need a counter for the number of times Scott pressed thunderbolt against a ground type this run😂
i find it interesting that Scott decided to give the rival the grass starter for this run.
i think Mudkip/Marshtomp would probably cause more problems with its ground typing. mainly in the 2nd mandatory rival fight.
Manectric might be one of the pokemon fast enough with its 105base speed to use a -speed nature. it basically out sped every single pokemon in the 2nd half of the game by like 80 speed.
HP grass might also be better than HP water, especially against whiscash. HP ice could also work, mostly against the Cradily but Whishcash would only take neutral dmg just like HP water.
It might just be force of habit for gen 1 and 2.
Though it’s not super influential because besides R113, the rival isn’t good.
He always gives himself the easier rival matchup I've noticed lol.
@@ThatGuyThai no he doesn't, he usually gives himself the hardest one. If he did easiest then he would've made the rival choose Torchick, which doesn't resist or is immune to Electric attacks. Like that other guy said, it's probably just from always doing gen 1 and 2 runs, which the grass type would be the hardest for an electric type to fight since they resist those attacks, and probably didn't consider that Marshtomp would be ground type later.
@@ThatGuyThai Actually in Gen 1 and 2, he claims to go for the most difficult.
I just need someone to tell this man that Brendan's and May's teams are the same in Emerald... the different rosters are for different starters... like in Gen 1.
@@finally_dorian The actual difference is that they don't use the same lead.
Brendan lead with Slugma, while May lead with Wingull (when you pick mudpik, otherwise there' no difference).
It's important for speedrunner because Wingull can break the 3 turn setup they use by using growl/supersonic
Otherwise, it's ok. And this fight is a lot easier in emerald than ruby/sapphire where they have numel/wailord with grovyle in this fight.
A tanky opponent with rollout is always kinda terrifying
I actually love Manectric. I think it looks great and as a kid, I was super excited to see my Electrike evolve. I just wish it was a bit stronger in terms of its special attack and had a better growth rate.
On the note of that growth rate, I'm pretty sure they did it because it was enough of a power boost early on enough in levels that they wanted you to have to grind a bit more for it
Electric could very well be the single worst mono type for solo play. The fact that Ground is both super effective against them and immune to their STAB is something no other type has to deal with prior to the introduction of Fairy as a counter to Dragon. To make matters worse, unlike Dragon types, Electric types tend to get poor coverage options, especially in early generations where Rock/Ground walls them hard, and even without Rock typing, most Ground types tend to have higher than average defense that makes them almost as good as resting to non-STAB normal attack.
Man, Psychic is crying in the corner right now 😭😭😭
@FreyRosfield : My bad... although dark doesn't tend to be nearly as bulky as ground types and also don't tend to be anywhere near as common in the early game. By the time any major dark type battle happens, psychic is more likely to have effective coverage options, so I think it tends to still be in a better position than electric.
@@EmeralBookwise oh I completely agree, it's nasty the treatment Electric types receive
I just wanted to joke about how you forgot psychic type 😁😁
I do like Manectric, it's one of those mons that isn't your favorite but kinda dig it. In the Genius Sonority games it looks great.
Manectric definitely sits in that middle ground between "super generic" and "actually pretty cool"
You'd probably never choose it over many others, but you'd be happy enough if it's the only option.
As a heads up, a super effective non-STAB Bite will do less damage than a neutral, STAB Thunderbolt/Ice Beam/Surf/etc. There is nothing that resists Electric in the Hoenn Elite 4 where but would be better, so unless you are worried about PP or tryting to flinch an opponent, keeping Bite over Thunderbolt for Phoebe was a misplaced. People have already mentioned HP-grass over water (i personally think while it is better, HP Water wasnt a bad idea at all). Great video overall!!
You can use the thief tm earlier in the game and get items like the sitrus berry from Watsons manectric and the white herb from flannery torkoal,
Also the best way to set up on the wailord is to bring it down to red HP as it will still use most of its water spouts regardless of it hp once done it will start using body slam.
oh look it's my to go special attack EV fodder in Emerald
As a kid, Manectric was almost always my go-to electric type in gen 3 playthroughs. I had no idea it has a slow growth rate.
Pressure isn't 1st turn only ability, it doubles PP consumption for all moves that target pokemon with pressure.
Right, but after one howl, instead of needing say 3 bites (and 6pp) to knock out dusclops, he only needs 2 bites (and 4pp).
@@chrisdaignault9845Bite is a special move in Gen 3. Howl doesn't affect it's damage.
Loving "daily december"! Thanks so much for all the hard work you've been doing to make this happen!
These have been such a treat during the end of semester cram, thanks for daily December!
The man is a legend! I found your old videos just this year and I've been going through your catalog... Dedication doesn't cover it lmao.
Thank you for Daily December, just remember to take care of yourself as well man!
Much love
Scott in this video: "Lowering speed doesn't make sense"
also Scott in the Salamence video: "So I gave it a brave nature"
Should probably have lowered speed here. I'm going to invest more time in figuring out key speed thresholds needed for solo runs. Wallace's fastest Pokemon is 118 speed for example and Drake's Salamence is one of the faster Pokemon in the game. As long as a mon can move first against those, extra speed is superfluous.
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemon 💀
Manectric is one of my favorite electric types so I'm pretty hyped for this run!
Daily December is going great. These videos are the highlight of each day
Man, Tate and Liza are HELL for these challenges for basically every mon. Emerald is tough.
Scott can't help it if he's Naughty by default!!
Love the content, this consistency is absolutely bonkers in December!
Daily December is pretty good no joke. Appreciate the work Scott
Aww this was filmed on my birthday! That kinda makes me like Manetric a little more ^^ Great video as always~
I quite regularly say to people I never have the time to watch tv shows that are on every single day. But I will always make time to watch a Scott's Thoughts upload every day! 🥳
december became the best month on youtube for me because there's scott everyday
I always feel special when I start watching the video before I get the notification.
My first Shiny was an Electrike which I evolved into a Manectric in Omega Ruby. I still have it to this day.
Also still have it: is it still on the OR cartridge, pokemon bank/home, or on a switch based pokemon game
@@adventureoflinkmk2 old save file
@@TheOmegaDragon oh shit.. better try and get it to a switch cartridge stat
I'm glad Manectric got access to Flamethrower in later generations, It helps them out with their poor moveset so much (granted at the same time, losing Bite/Crunch as special damage)
Yeah and Flamethrower would've helped shaved more time to some extent and maybe helped against Steven...although the situation probably would not change too much against the Claydol.
I figured that you had deliberately picked Naughty nature with Roxanne in mind, giving yourself an Attack boost without sacrificing any important stats with regards to beating her. I'm also unsure about which HP would be best for Manectric; Ice definitely has its upsides, with Drake as well as Steven's Cradily taking super effective damage from it. However, Water is really good for Camerupt, as well as having synergy with Rain Dance. Grass is really good for Whiscash, though, so it's hard to say for sure. I'm sure you'll figure out an answer to that question when you've gotten a better feel for this game though.
Love this Scott! From the thumbnail and the tone of voice in your first couple of lines in the video- I can tell we don't like Manectric... and seeing the slow growth rate I am feeling like I can see why before we even get into thr playthrough lol!!!
Is it just me or does anyone else get absolutely hyped for an Emerald video 😊
I adore Manectric! I caught it in my original Emerald run because I wanted an electric type to complement the team I had at the time.
I didn’t expect much, but she saved the team many times in my Wallace fight, Steven Stone fight, AND pretty much carried the entire team on her back for the Battle Frontier.
I was also getting into battling friends at the time, and she beat two of my friends AND a kid who said my team was garbage XDDD
Since then, if she’s an option, I catch an Elektrike. I used her again in ORAS, and named her after my OG one as I lost the cartridge years ago.
Elektrike/Manectric was always an MVP for me, so seeing this run was a fun trip down memory lane.
The most optimal way to play a solo challenge is probably to support its available set-up moves rather than its inherent superior attacking type. HP water is great for the ground and steeel types plus rain, but I wonder though if perhaps having Howl + a physical HP would be better.
I don't "love" Manectric, but I appreciate it. It's sort of a placeholder in my team until New Mauville where I can replace it with Voltorb or Magnemite. Similar to how I use Mightyena until I can get Absol.
I know why you skipped Bite in this solo run, but I LOVE that you can breed to get Crunch. Such a great move and can really be emphasized on Manectric.
I've always liked Manectric. While its design may be weird to some, I think its mane pointing straight up is symbolic of how it generates high amounts of electricity and the look grew on me. Plus, I have a soft spot for dog pokemon XD
Its stats may not be the best, but its SpAtk and Spd are pretty good all things considered and make it a solid in-game poke to add to your team. Movepool may be kinda swallow in terms of taking advantage of its stat spread, but TMs definitely help.
Awesome vid as always Scott, looking forward to the next one!
I kinda agree with you: largely I love the Gen 3 designs, but there are some really strange over-designed ones and to me, Manetric is one of them.
You've been doing these runs for a while so I guess you know how to do these better than me but in my opinion:
1) HP Water is nice for Camerupt which I know you struggled with but it's basically not as good as Grass or Ice for anything else. In particular, Ice would have helped for a lot of Pokémon you had a problem with. A regularly effective Thunderbolt is better than a super effective Hidden Power.
2) I think you were completely paralysed by fear of missing against Sydney; it REALLY wasn't worth keeping Shock Wave, especially if you went for HP Ice.
3) Your movesets against Steven were hilarious. I do kinda think with Slow rate Pokémon, you really can't use rare candies earlier than the champion. I don't know if you do use the Pokénav Trainer Eyes, but the route with the day care is pretty good experience once the teams get better from a few battles. I think it's better to do training then using that, although I do appreciate the late Fly badge makes this a bit of a pain in the butt. Worth experimenting with though at least.
It's such a shame it doesn't get Flamethrower in this generation!
It's so weird to see Manectric without Flamethrower and Overheat, at least by Gen 6 with the Mega Manectric did feel worthy of the Slow growth rate, that thing was a beast and could actually be used for VGC on rain teams and standard teams since it provides both Intimidate and unmissable Thunder under the rain and also has Snarl which is fantastic in VGC
I would like to thank you and your team for all of the hard work that you put in!
Fun run. Man I can't wait for Emerald 2nd runs
Thanks for all the videos it really helps with work
Can't wait for aggron video , and glad to see donphan and primeape got their video this year
Scott: "I feel like everyones gonna roast me for choosing naughty nature. Please be kind, i feel bad."
Scotts audience: "what does y
naughty nature do??? 🤔 "
Love the video! If/when you update the overlay for Gen3 onward, can there be an indicator for which stats are affected by your nature? Also, an EV tracker would be nice, but perhaps overkill.
personally i think the slightly higher base power and high chance to paralyze make spark better than shock wave, fun vid regardless, keep it up!
That Steven battle was an emotional roller coaster. Funny thing about Manectric, in gen IV they decided all of a sudden that it should get Fire moves as coverage, so it can get Flamethrower in those games which helps a lot with coverage. It feels like there's a giant gap in effectiveness between Electric types that have solid coverage moves (The Electabuzz line comes to mind with Ice Punch) and those that are stuck with mostly Electric.
I’m glad the naughty nature didn’t come back to bite you in the end.
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Scott 2023: Bro, I'm on my come up
Hold my Pichu😎
Legit love that between noting the benefit of hitting Lv.20 ahead of Roxanne and pointing out that Manectric only had hit Lv.21 by Brawly was a whole-on mechanical oversight explanation which I was so into that the whiplash of the Slow growth rate feels that much more a slog.
Your gen 3 vids are my favorite
Please dont get upset about folk in the comments. Youre doing an amazing job and provide so much entertainment and enjoyment in our lives. Youre the fucking man Scott.
Manectric, along with some others, were from my very first Emerald playthrough, so it'll always have a special place in my heart. On the topic of the Mega, yeah I really like it too. It's on the sillier side but at the same time it's straight up (or I get straight sideways) a lightning bolt. How could that not be cool?
In later gens Manectric gets a few Fire moves as coverage, which I always thought was neat. Didn't actually realise it didn't get them in Gen 3...
I knew Manetric would slower but didn't expect it to be this bad. Would be interesting to see how Magneton fares with it's steel type for defence.
Manectric gives me an almost Mayan/Aztecan impression, almost like an imposing statue; ever vigilant atop a temple.
I feel like this would be a lot easier for manectric in future games where it gets access to flamethrower. Steven Stone in particular would probably be a lot easier with just that one extra move
I always avoided electrike as a kid because it didn’t have any electric moves right when you catch one and it felt weak with its physical attacks lol but later on I realized it’s a good special attacker and learns spark after a few levels and then you can teach it shock wave and thunderbolt eventually
Yay! One of my favorite electric types
This December has been Scottcember. I love it 😃
Well, Scott, this one was hard, I gotta say! What the luck you had with flamery! I really think Norman should have one Zangoose, it would makes the gym even harder!
Great video dude!
You have such a kind voice. And the fact that I know that you work on it is sweeter! I hope you get kind critiques.... but you attacking my baby?! Idk, we might have to fight. Manectric being electric AND wolf is my jam!!!! But, he could have had a third evolution lol 😅
Magnectric looks like its wearing some awkward headgear from an 80s sci-fi show
Doing doggos now scotty?
I approve
Those mega evolutions for the pokemon that weren't already super strong were such a fun addition to the game. Beedrill, Glalie etc.
I would very much like to see them return at some point even if it seems we are shifting to flavour of the gen gimmicks going forward.
Tera and Z moves were fine, gigantimax had some interesting designs similar to mega but dynamax just wasn't a good idea in singles play.
@scott's thoughts - naughty nature is not necessarily bad on manectric. some times having a little more attack can come in clutch on certain Pokémon even if they are S.Attackers. early game or gym leaders that have Res against your typing.
Man that gen 3 soundtrack hits so hard
You still exist? And i ask that full of respect. I would collapse under this workload. Well done
We should have a what if series like what if Manectrick learned Flametrower like latter generations.
Manetric is a naughty dog. After retiring from battles, she will create Crash Bandicoot games!
For steven, maybe a moveset of protect, substitute, thunderbolt, and bite with leftovers could work. You'll be able to pp stall dangerous moves and slowly heal up.
I don't know when you'll do it, but I look forward to the aggron playthrough. It may be hard, but he will do.
Manectric always gave me Egyptian sphinx vibes, always thought those were the pyramids on its head..
I'm a big fan of Manectric, even appearance wise. I'm not entirely sure why, though, but I want to say it's because of the game cube games.
I also enjoy that it learns Fire moves in later gens, giving it a small niche as an Electric type with natural Fire coverage.
13:13 - This thing just reminds me of Buu Saga Super Saiyan Vegeta. Also, I agree that this thing looks like a mid-stage evolution. It's not grand enough like Arcanine or fearsome enough like Houndoom.
I love Manectric.
I personally think it looks more cool than silly 😅 I’ve used it on my original team back in Ruby. I just love all the doggo Pokémon.
Bonus: when ORAS came out, I encountered a shiny electrike with perfect IV’s in Sp.Atk and Speed, it’s shiny is black and yellow and it’s awesome! 🤩
100% agree with your take on manectric's design,i like the body and face but i never liked the pyramid head.
It has never felt like the final stage to me
plus i think i would like it more if it was the same green as electrik instead of turning blue
The mega fits so well as it's last form, it feels complete and powerful, especially the shiny version
Honestly I hate mega's because it means those pokemon will never evolve unless they have a regional form
Which makes some pokemon like glalie and manectric feel super under powered.
A Naughty nature this close to Christmas? Poor Manectric.
blergh, hoenn games :p still, thanks as always for the ever-improving quality content; December is being a better month because of your work! Cheers!
With the sheer amount of Water Pokemon in Emerald. It is a Chad.
I've always liked Manetric, mostly because in Gen 3 it's the best early game Electric type and it's a cool doggo.
As someone who got into the series relatively late (Sinnoh and a bit of FRLG 15 years ago), I have no strong feelings towards Manectric. That said, I think its 105 Speed and Special Attack make it more than strong enough as a final evolution in a traditional playthrough, although its shallow movepool makes it more difficult to do a solo run with. Speaking of movepool, I was surprised that it doesn't get Flamethrower and Overheat since it does in every subsequnet game. Flamethrower would've really helped with Steven!
I always liked menetric and it's mega is actually half decent.
I actually always overlooked manetric until I tried using it in a run of emerald. there are honestly not a whole lot of good options for an electric type in gen 3 so while it's only ok it's top dog for an electric type in that gen.
why I really liked it, however, is that it learns crunch. I always liked it as a move and the fact that it gets it to hit things that are good against it earned it a place in my heart.
go electro doggo go!!!
Manectric is one of those Pokémon that I never used
Scott you've been Naughty.... Great Video
By the Way I feel like you never Talk about the Emerald Move Tutors (That are Not in the Battle Frontier)
"I’m sure all the people that love Manectric will come at me". Oh yeah, I’m sure the whole 2 of them will.
“Facade is gonna hit way harder now”
He said as a Manectric on 15hp
Charge is to punish moves like fly, protect or even switches for example
...still kind of useless for sure but it is slightly different from attacking twice
Hi Scott!
HP grass might be better in the late game in this run because you’re still hitting grounds hard, but you’ll be able to one shot the Wiscash’s
Thanks to Manectric being mid, I often struggle comming up with a decent team for Emerald.
This is the best I could come up with:
Swampert
Gardevoir
Crobat
Ninetails
Heracross
Aggron
I NEED to see you do Zigzagoon (or Linoone if you must) Also Charge does have ONE niche purpose. If you use a move twice you risk the first one putting you ropponent into healing range. While doing Double damage in just one of the hits you COULD theoretically avoid that. It's very VERY niche, but it CAN be useful.
Excellent video as always
Such a silly final fight, it made me realize I would love for you to add a "remaining potions" counter onto the UI somewhere, maybe above the enemies list of pokemon beside the trainer name
I actually often wondered in your playthroughs if it might be wise to use the nature that boosts the pokemon’s weaker offensive stat in order to make it slightly more balanced. Thought it might reduce the risk of it running up against a wall if it’s forced to use an attack of that type.
Jolteon is punk rock, Manectric is 80s synth rock.
I used Manectric in my Emerald playthrough and they definitely did an amazing job and helped with a lot of the water and flying enemies.
it is not even a week in and the opening feels so tired already. I hope you are taking care of yourself Scott
I’ve had the figure on wheels from the early 2000s, the mega only endeared me more
I love the good boi :3 my first electric type