Ford Everest Titanium+ 4x4 vs Toyota Fortuner GR-S: 4x4 SUV Big Test | Top Gear Philippines
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ค. 2024
- Considering how popular midsize SUVs remain in our market, it’s high time we feature them in another Big Test. Last year, we did a 4x4 comparo of the Isuzu MU-X and the Nissan Terra as well as a three-way test of the MU-X, the Ford Everest, and the Mitsubishi Montero Sport in 4x2 form-you can check the links below in case you missed those videos.
This time around, we’re pitting the Ford Everest Titanium+ 4x4 against the Toyota Fortuner GR Sport, bringing them all the way to Driftwoods Action Park in Indang, Cavite, to see how they fare in a series of tests. The Fortuner, of course, wears the mighty Toyota badge and gets some Gazoo Racing Sport bits for this top-spec version, but the Everest is newer and benefits from Ford’s expertise in building trucks and SUVs.
Which of these two midsize SUVs takes the win? Click play on the video above to find out, and let us know your thoughts-as well as your Big Test suggestions-in the comments.
Presenters: Anton Andres and Drei Laurel
Editor: Charles Banaag
Videographers: Charles Banaag and Teddy Garcia Jr.
0:00 Intro
1:45 Test 1 - 0-60kph off-road acceleration
3:17 Test 2 - Braking performance
5:20 Tests 3 and 4 - Ride and handling
12:15 Test 5 - Uphill and downhill
15:15 Recap
19:55 Test 6 - Value for money
20:30 Final score
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I've owned 3 Ford 4x4s in the Philippines. 2016 Ford Everest. 2020 Ford Ranger Raptor. Now a 2024 Everest. Bigger and more features for less money than the Fortuner. I always test drive the Toyota, and it's always an easy and clear decision.
Both good SUVs. Mind you the fortuner has been for sale since 2016 and we are anticipating for an all new model soon. Having owned both a Ranger and a Fortuner, I would say FORD for tech and features and TOYOTA for Engine, durability and reliability. My ranger kasi had several problems regarding rust, turbo air leaks and at 79tkms the new owner replaced the turbo. The Toyota still runs strong. But hey this is an all new Everest based on the old T6 platform so perhaps this one will prove to be reliable.
All features can be added later but Engine and Reliablity of Toyato won't fail you for even next generation.
What a joke😂😂Both have good engine but here having 2.8 L fortuner is still underweight and Everest is heavier so stability is good in Ford..but if u look overall sales and popularity then fortuner is winner.
Reliability, durability and dependability are not strong suits of Ford. I have a Ford and I am saddled with lots of “minor and major” problems beginning with transmission, electronics, engine, even the stereo sound controller!! But my Toyota, it seems like it is going to run forever. 😂😂
Previous everst was more off road orianted but this one is focused more towards urban/luxury users as now they have the bronco series as a hard core off roader and surprisingly it is not much expensive .
You can somewhat improve the brakes of the everest by having wider tires and still being cheaper than the GR-S. I’d pick the everest overall. The interior of the fortuner just looks too old for my liking and being very mahiluhin sa byahe the riding comfort of the everest is just too good for its class. What I also like about the everest is super refined nya. Walang vibrations halos, less noisy and it’s smoother too. I know people will say “after 15 years gumagana pa rin yang fortuner” pero I don’t usually own cars that long.
ayan nanaman ung kayabangan mo naka range rover ka na sana kung mayaman ka talaga
@@kooob81 lmao. I could but wala na ako kakainin for 5 years If I do buy one hahaha.
are you saying lahat ng bibili ng ford needs to upgrade their tires para ma improve lang braking? come on nakita mo naman kung gaano ka worse yung braking nya diba. deep inside you know how important the braking system is for a car especially on a life and death situations. #2 alam nating panalo comfort ng ford pero tbh decent na rin ang ride ni fortuner especially sa facelifted nila unlike the pre faclifted na talagang matagtag and hindi mo naman ipang aaraw araw na rough road yan. #3 i know marami kang pera pambili ng kotse kasi gagamitin mo lang 5-8 years. if ever toyota ka, nabenta mo na ng malaking resale value tas yung ford mo di mo alam kung makakasurvive ng ganon katagal. swerte na kung tumagal 8 years, ambaba pa ng resale🤣
@@helsinkioslo836 lol. Di raw makasurvive ng 8 years. Joker ka yata Bossing. Di ka ba naglalabas sa bahay niyo. Kahit yung unang modelo ng Everest na lumabas dito sa atin, ay nandiyan pa rin sa daan tumatakbo. Previous generation is already 8 years old. Huwag naman papahalata na SA ka sa Atoyot. Kailangan na talagang maglabas ng new model para makasabay. Mas maganda pa nga ride and comfort ng Montero. Lol. Drive safe bossing para madami ka pang mabentang sasakyan.
May I add, that besides you not holding on to a car that long, most probably in 15 years time, emissions restrictions for cars will become so ridiculously stringent that owning a diesel powered vehicle will become more trouble than its worth because EVs will be what governments around the world will be pushing hard for the public to use.
top gear ph is doing a pretty good review na ahh.. nicee 👏👏
This is a no contest ! EVEREST is the clear winner !!! We have Everest and Fortuner … nakakapagod i drive ang fortuner sa long ride… sa Everest napaka swabe.
Well, almost all of us are coming from a Japanese brands. Ako galing Atoyot. When its time to upgrade , I did all my research and test drive. Alam ko na reliable ang Atoyot, pero nagtataka ako bakit madami ang parts na available mapa fake man or original. So kung bibihira masira ang isang car, dapat bibihira din ang mga parts kasi di nga mabenta dahil daw matibay. Pero kabaliktaran ang nangyayari. When I finally bought the Everest, previous generation. Sabi ko parang kumuha yata ako ng sakit sa ulo. But sa awa ni Lord with proper maintenance, 7 years na, still good as new. Battery-2x, brakes, tires, turbo hose and PMS every year, good as new pa rin. Comfort and handling wala akong masabi. I driven to manila from my province once, balikan for more than 24 hours. Ikaw lang ang susuko sa antok. Pero di ako napagod na same like my Atoyot before. Kaya malamang sa malamang hirap na ako bumalik sa Atoyot or other brand in general. This is my experience, so Drof is on another level in general. Dapat na talaga maglabas ng bagong modelo ang Atoyot para makahabol. Drive safe po.
highly agree
I would agree with this comment. We have a 4x2 LTD and a 2.0 Everest Titanium 4x2. The experience with Ford is on another level talaga. It feels more luxurious and comfortable. Fortuner is also very nice coming as a toyota fanboy noon. The things I don't like with the Fortuner is that it is the most expensive in the mid-size SUV market but it doesn't feel like it - interior is just ok and the drive is not that comfortable. Pag nag long drive ako sa fortuner, sumasakit katawan ko. While sa Everest naman kahit gaano kana katagal nag ddrive, di pa bugbog yung katawan mo. To end, I would use my Toyota for daily driving and the Everest when it comes to outing/long trips with the family, papogi car on occasions, and weekend car.
Mga walang ford everest kasi mga nagsasabi nyan.
At this price range I’d give priority to the comfort of my family. Yung GRS at least hindi pang ricer kasi palit suspension and brakes. Everest ako.
In my opinion, when we talk about value for money, it’s not just the srp, tech, etc. that we’re talking about. For me, reliability, durability, parts etc needs to be considered as well as maintenance cost or parts broken is part of our expenses.
As much as I love everest and ranger raptor, I was forced to sell it due to repair cost and real life fuel consumption as well, just got hit by rack end pinion issues, ball joints etc. and spent a lot to repair and mostly replacement parts, hence the reason I bought an LTD (not GRS). Spent couple of grand to beat tagtag issues and as I’m satisfied at the moment.
Yes I spent a lot srp + upgrades, but I think this vehicle will last longer and since it has a high resale value and cheaper parts.
I specifically told the shop that I want a fortuner that rides like ford, so we did. Problem solved. And I’m happy. By the time I have to let go of this ltd, will just bring it back to stock and sell my aftermarket parts separately as stock fortuner still has a high resale value.
Hi can we please know what shop you let work on your fortuner? plus how much did it cost?
saang shop sir
Sir saang shop ka lumapit para malawa tagtag ng Fortuner mo?
Hi what is the suspension you updated?
This guy tells a tall tail.
For the comfort test, I wonder if tire pressure is always checked before tests. New cars from dealers sometimes still have the delivery psi / max psi.
I like the steering heavier. Its like driving and feeling the tire touches the road. Its easier for me to calculate. I drove both models..
Comfortability wins!
Nice comparo...very informative..
Sana i consider din ng mga car reviewer yung maintenance cause ng car.
Agree with you guys, nice content
Ford Everest cause of the look and the tech features also very reliable brand more than 100 years
LOL Ford is one of the bad brand for reliability. I bet you never own a car, do more research before you invest in car, thank me later.
honest review ever 👍
These two are a great partners in car review
I will always choose a comfortable ride for my family and that's why I just got my new gen everest 4x4.
True!
Ride comfort over anything else! Lalo na if big family with elders.
If I wanted comfort I'd buy a premium sedan like a Volvo S90 or a Mercedes. Seriously, I don't even need a 4x4, because all the roads are paved and the 4x4 just means I'll have worse fuel economy.
@@thetrustysidekick3013 that’s you. That’s okay. That’s your use scenario. But us, we want a 4x4, high ground clearance, tough and a high water wading depth and still be super comfortable. The Everest wins without a doubt
@@thetrustysidekick3013 The point is, SUVs can have both comfort, off-road capability, and also extra room for more passengers. They are all around vehicles and are half the price of the brands you mentioned. I doubt fuel economy matters when you are willing to spend few million pesos more on a more expensive vehicle that is more costly to maintain.
In terms of durability and long term usage im pretty sure the fortuner outruns the everest by a huge margin
New subs. Ford Everest is awesome.
next naman..nissan terra sport 4x4
I have to say that Ford Everest, in terms of value for money, beats Toyota Fortuner. It does have more features, the engine produces more horsepower and torque, and does have a modern design.
Pero yun na nga, after sale services and convenience are very important. Jan lalamang ang Toyota. Mas madami at cheaper ang parts and maintenance, higher resell value, and Toyota, including other Japanese brand vehicles, were already proven to last longer.
It's really up to which one you personally prefer. Both cars are great and will be a joy to use.
i love the Everest
You guys should have brought the Ford Everest with the 3.2 litre V6 engine. That would have been epic 💪
I had a horrible experience with FORD Ranger Wildtrak. TUMIRIK in NLEX. From then on, I had no trust in FORD transmission regarding reliability. I then switch to TOYOTA fortuner GRS.
They say Ford wins when it comes to comfort, but when a Ford stops you on the road, the car parts is damaged, is it still comfort? And the price of Ford parts is very expensive, is it still comfortable? For me dun tayo sa durable, reliable, tested & proven. That is the real "Comfort". (TOYOTA)
I think it boils down to observer variability. I'd rather have the comparison done by just one driver.
Faxx, like having more than one driver on a car comparo is just making the car review less accurate
I was looking if which of these two is kore fuel efficient
Id like to clarify a test on breaking, no. 1 if we do break test then both cars should have the same break point meaning the should use the tree as a refference to where to step on the breaks as both cars reaches 60 at a different time for everest its over 5sec and fortuner over 4sec. So the difference in how long it will stop will vary greatly if they started shorter distance. Just wanna clarify on this thanks
Brake
No, they did the correct brake test, 0-60-0 in the shortest distance possible. I expected the everest to lose that since it would be carrying a significant amount of body weight for such small brakes at that speed. If you use a fixed reference point, one or more of the SUVs might not have reached the correct speed by the time they reach the reference point, and you will have incorrect data. The point of the brake test is to test how short of a distance can you cover braking from 60kph.
Not because i own a Ford everest, sa 3 naging sasakyan ko before, never bought a Toyota. I always find it overpriced. Id rather buy a honda than toyota. But thats just me.
The other suv should be tested here also😊
Vehicles such as these Car units are made to carry and take people to places. If you are going to buy a car you must consider the purpose of it or its usage, If it's for your family or simply "people" then you have to consider their comfort and safety, especially if you have kids and elderlies, pregnant women wether healthy or have medical condition -I'm sure you don't want them bumping around and being almost throwned out when you hit rough roads .. I would recommend Everest for that and also against common misconception, they actually last long too... If your purpose is to have a workhorse for daily haul then you can consider toyota... I'm sure you are not going to drive everyday as if you are in a racing contest😅 on the highway
If I'm not mistaken, the everest titanium just got hit by a P30,000 price bump today.
yep, it did
I think because of inflation and also demand.
wow what a nice fortooner
Everest has more features but fortuner has Toyota (reliable and durable)
Handling and comfort dyan talaga panalo ang ford maganda ang suspension.
Please compare the looks also nd size
how about to test it same heavy load at seven passenger each w/c one handles better, rather doing same two seat occupied
Got a G variant 2017 model, but my 2012 everest still rides more comfy than my 2017 fortuner 😢
Stiffer suspensions if the Fortuner lasts longer than softer suspensions. Less wear and tear but uncomfortable asf
With respect to Toyota and Ford owners everyone will have an opinion. Both have positives and negatives. Many will also have an opinion even though they've never owned or driven either, only hearing opinions! I've driven and used both Ford, Toyota and others. Because this is Ford and Toyota I'll only mention them. This is only my opinion and my experience. First Toyota. Toyota quality and dependability is really good, that's not a question. My biggest gripe about Toyota is it's ride comfort and handling. The ride is downright stiff and floaty. It feels like their cars are not connected to the road. Now Ford. My biggest issue is the interior quality(cheap plastics) the 10 speed transmision (too many gears - gear hunting and it's dependability) and electronics, mainly the apim module. If you want a car that will last a long time and has high resale value - Toyota. If you want a car that will be more engaging to drive and more comfort, with the proper maintenace (it'll give you years, trouble free) - Ford.
parang eto na ata pinaka meh sense na comment na nakita ko 😁 wala ako kotse nangangarap lang dahil mahirap lang ako malamang toyota bibilhin ko, mafami mekaniko meh gusto toyota pang masa, madali lang daw kumpunihin.
I think the reason for the 10 speed gear box is fuel efficiency.
We own both.
Toyota - ok ride, no problems whatsoever
Ford - comfy ride, many problems
@@Only_Quasi Can you elaborate on the problems?
@@jccab1106 certainly.
Ford everest 2017 4x4
- at 30,000kms+: 4x4 system completely replaced due to malfunction
- 60-70k our transmission failure
- at some point our unit wouldnt start even tho battery wasnt due for replacement
Everest vs prado naman sir
Guys there is a v6 everest if one needs more power
owned both Toyota & Ford, and member ng both Toyota & Ford groups.
dami horror stories sa end ng Ford. mapa 2015 man na sasakyan or 2023, dami issue. Pero hands down sa tech and comfort. sobrang uncomfortable lang sa time and budget ng paulit ulit na balik sa casa for diagnosis/repairs. Ford is a lottery type of car. Swerte ka kung ang nabili mo ay hindi sirain.
Toyota (Fortuner) fell short on tech and 3rd row seats. Sikip. Not sure about tagtag though. I’m fine with my GR. But really, sagwa ng cockpit. hehe.
Magkano bili nyo sa Fortuner GRS sir
SRP po sir @@jbangz2023
Weight aside but the distance the cars get to 60 will have an effect on the distance before/after the marked distance of the other car.... In other words.. It would be best to have them run together to 60 then break at the same time
Exactly
In Indonesia, the everest price is way more expensive than Fortuner GR Sport
This is how you should compare cars. 🎉
I have the 2022 ranger XL and fortuner LTD. Mas comfortable ang senior citizen passengers ko sa base model ranger kysa LTD.
That’s great considering that the ranger is still on leaf springs compared sa coil springs ng ltd
To be honest sa Frame ng Toyota weak compare sa Ford. Kaya matagtag talaga ang Toy ots. Ang frame ng Ford is strong same as F150 design. Kahit palitan pa ng pinaka mahal na shocks ganun parin king of tag tagan.
May glow plug issue daw ang fortuner… yong iba early nagpa top overhaul ?
The Ford Everest interior tech is awesome 👍 hands down but the looks or exterior design of the Toyota Fortuner is more nicer
Pero pag pinalitan ng Raptor ang grill ng Everest , tsaka palit ng mags . Astig tingnan
You guys shouldn't have switched the seats for testing the comfort of the cars,one guy drives and the other checks.
How beautiful that Everest looks 😍 but not coming to India 🥹
Yes it is❤❤
Sa Middle East, more or less 100k km a year ang odo average ko, ma deserto/rough road bùndok at wadi no problem kay fortuner, normal PMS at palit gulong lang,, never experience na tirik or overheat si fortuner lalo na summer (50degC). Kaya sa experience ko lang matibay at malakas talaga si fortuner.
mux vs everest sana sa offroad
Subukan nyo uli kapag tag-ulan at maputik ang daan tapos tingnan ninyo kung alin ang mas nababalahaw sa putik.
Inaccurate brake test,
That 0 to 60 to 0 test.
If a car accelerates slower, means it will definitely reach further in that test IMO...
They must have same braking point @60kph.
It wasn't a 0-60-0 test. The 0-60 run (Test 1) and the braking portion (Test 2) were done separately, so that the two cars could start from the same braking point for the latter test.
@@TGPMagazine Base on your presentation, @3:46 your host says "he'll roll to 60 then slam on the brakes" then @3:50 he start to accelerate then @4:01 he slams the brake.
you dont have a specific or same marker/braking point for both vehicle to have a conclusive 60kph to 0kph braking distance.
so on the viewers point of view, it was 0 - 60 - 0kph test.
@@Puchinayyan1 yes brake test is more complicated than the acceleration test,top gear need to make better measurement for brake test
Even though the Everest has been updated, the Fortuner is still an old model. Of these two cars, I will still choose the fortuner.
Ford everest all da way..
Why are you guys testing this 2 vehicle on rough road instead on the pavement ?
I'll pic for Fortuner grs.
hiace nalang akin . hehe
makakahiga pa ako. pasok ang chutchon eh
Fortuner grs my favorite 🔥🔥🔥🔥
We will upgrade car next year and we are torn between everest and fortuner, my husband wants everest but i want fortuner , we will both pay for the car 50/50 , so i really dont know what to choose
You're the woman duh, ikaw masusunod
@@hellbreaker4056 depende kung sino ang magbabayad
4 tune' er or 4 2 NER ??😅
Any way to improve the ride comfort of the fortuner?
Upsizing tyres to 285/60/18 and running it on recommended tyre pressure.
Ford used to own Jaguar and land rover before selling it to Tata motors. Ford acquired the 4x4 tech of rover of the brits. 🤔
Targeted audience: Philippinos
Real audience: Indians 😅
Toyota people wouldn't mind the torture and the uncomfortable ride just because it's more reliable and spare parts are easily available which would mean that the torture on your body will continue forever. ✌️
which of the first of these two do you think will be the deuce to be marketed with a sunroof just like the other clowns?
Everest V6 is comparable to Prado, not poor Hi-Lux Fortuner....
4:02. Yep. For two ner.
😂
Tawang tawa ko kay Drey😂 nalamog ba naman sa Fortuner AHAHAHAHA
ford everest takes the lead!
Easy win for everest!
Ford Everest has a recall now on the titanium e shifter. Plus different electronic issues. Also the new territory has problems like my friends only has 300 klmtrs so palang and it will not start, he brought it to ford 3 times and they still can’t find the problem…. Fix on road daily. Let’s see the Everest after 4 years….. 😂.
The brake test isn't accurate. Reaching 60 was faster with fortuner. Your braking starts when you reach 60.
The fortuner gsr is no match to the next gen everest i suggest match the everest with next gen fortuner this 2024 .
toyotas arent the more confortable car, but yes one of best the reliable car 😎
Next time do tug of war
What about the reliability and parts .
Lots of parts online reliability is how u maintain lots of people has ford everest that has exceeded 200k mileage and turbo hose is the only thing they replaced there Is also everest that is 8years old and still running but in the end u should test drive both to know which is better for your driving
I presume the everest is equipped with EPS. I prefer the old school hydraulic powered steering for reliability.
nanghihinayang ako sa design ng headlight ng everest sana buo nalang na C shape .
Fortooner?
And yet there are more fortuners in the streets. Durability is a huge factor in purchasing a car that you expect to last for a long time and Toyota has no rival worldwide when it comes to durability, reliability and dependability as well as cheaper and more available replacement parts.
both cars are great. the question here is, do you have enough money to buy? 🤣🤣
Are parts easily accessible for the Everest outside casa?
Not as well as the Fortuner. Ford parts are more premium as well so harder to come by. Especially that the Ford is a new model.
Yung usual na nasisira or pinapalitan, avail sa lazada. Much much cheaper than casa. Meron din sa mga chain shops like Rapide.
Wow, fortooooooner.
Want it in india
Toyota would be a good choice if it wasn't overpriced lol everest all the way
I’m not rich but if i have to choice one of this SUV. I’ll go for the reliability, durability…I’ll take the Toyota. Ford like many US brand cars are just good for 2 to 3 yrs. pagkatapos ang daming sakit na. Sabi nga nila FORD means Fix Or Repair Daily. Pero kanya kanya trip yan.
MAY AUTOMATIC BREAK SYSTEM ANG FORD FORWARD COLLISION ASSIST. ANG TOYOTA WALA
Compare on how long they both last and the resale value,end of discussion!
Wala kami pake sa resale. Yang mga ganyang factors nag aapply lang sa mga hikahos sa buhay pero gusto mag sasakyan kahit wala masyado budget.
@@nodcarillol.6550 trueee
you have the money to buy a car that is almost 2.6 Million in value and you think about the resale value? are you serious?
@@randolfabad759 having money to purchased Doesn’t have anything to do with resale value,if after 5 years I want to sell the vehicle,at least the vehicle have a resale value! Obviously you know who have the least value!
@@nysmindnancs6899 all cars have a resale value if you take care of that car so what resale value are you talking about?
Legender vs Everest
Everest no doubt
Xian Gaza?
GRS for the win
It's fortuner vs endeavour (Everest) ... So there are going to be lots of Indians here:-)
grabi sa tag2 si fortuner
The perfect SUV is the style, ride, and tech of the Everest + the reliability, durability, and ease of maintenance of the Fortuner. You can also add the performance of the montero + the driving dynamics of a Forester.
How about nissan terra?
It was featured in our Big Test last year against the Isuzu MU-X (video here: th-cam.com/video/BuOly0nKljs/w-d-xo.html). We wanted to include the MU-X in this latest comparo because it won the last one, but a unit wasn't available at the time of the shoot.
@@TGPMagazine Next on the Big Test: 2023 Mitsubishi Montero Ralliart VS. 2023 Nissan Terra Sport. Thanx.