The Top Ten Most Powerful Sorcerers in the MCU

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  • @KeyIssues
    @KeyIssues  3 ปีที่แล้ว +214

    The top 3 was a really tough decision. I think number 3 will eventually move up to number 2 or number 1, but for now, they're in the #3 spot.
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    • @v_eh
      @v_eh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Soon

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Sooooon

    • @dariencoffee94
      @dariencoffee94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Not stronger then Wanda he will move to the second spot, no more.

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Oh shit bro you’re from the future?

    • @darthkek1953
      @darthkek1953 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      No..... you're wrong... stop doubting yourself.
      You have the Top #3 perfectly well thought-through and summarised.

  • @GautamKumar-wx3sm
    @GautamKumar-wx3sm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1531

    There's one more fact about Scarlet Witch that was stated in the series, that is she can Spontaneous use magic without casting spells or doing enchantments. In other words, can use magic as she pleases and can do things she thinks of.

    • @benjaminbaird-kerr3500
      @benjaminbaird-kerr3500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +238

      Right! “Magic on autopilot”

    • @reaganmoore8639
      @reaganmoore8639 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      he does mention this in his separate video for Wanda

    • @darkrai98k69
      @darkrai98k69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@benjaminbaird-kerr3500 😆😆

    • @tomas2668
      @tomas2668 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Spontaneous creation = reality warping and transmutation... Both were mentioned

    • @aeyelashbug6311
      @aeyelashbug6311 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@tomas2668 What they mean is that she doesn't need to use verbal spells like Agatha does.

  • @assadarlingtoni
    @assadarlingtoni 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2099

    I can't wait for Wanda and Strange to finally meet in the Multiverse of Madness!

    • @cd8012
      @cd8012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +122

      They were suppose to meet in wandavision, but marvel took him out because they felt like if they introduce doctor strange, the attention of the fans will be on doctor strange instead of wanda. They also said that one of scenes they removed were to teach wanda the magic that defeated agatha in the end.

    • @dailyshorts8784
      @dailyshorts8784 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      @@cd8012 ya. I also think of that too! Because Dr. Strange is more loved/favorite by the people. Its literally a Series about Wanda and Vision but they will focus on Dr Strange lol

    • @nikhilmittal7054
      @nikhilmittal7054 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      You know what it's my birthday on 25th March and movie is also releasing on the same day I am dying for that day.

    • @ikaikamadayag5308
      @ikaikamadayag5308 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@dailyshorts8784 Wanda def has a bigger fan base

    • @sukihendrix
      @sukihendrix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Riiiightt

  • @pepito2847
    @pepito2847 3 ปีที่แล้ว +965

    Wanda taking on Thanos in Endgame was awesome
    But seeing her wreck fellow sorcerer Ebony Maw during the battle would have been awesome as well

    • @chrisgodfrey1880
      @chrisgodfrey1880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +126

      Ebony Maw isn't a sorcerer, he is a telekinetic, more akin to mutants of that power. Definitely powerful, but not a magic user directly. Even in comics he isn't a magic user, he just has abilities of mental manipulation and control

    • @assadarlingtoni
      @assadarlingtoni 3 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      Honestly it would've been so cool if she chased Thanos (because it made no sense she just forgot about him after) and then Ebony Maw would try to stop her from trying to kill his master and then there will be epic battle where wanda defeats Maw (cause let's be honest she'd defeat him)

    • @muhammadimsar469
      @muhammadimsar469 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      She can defeat maw easyly, she just need to ruin maw’s mind any further

    • @SoraKingdomss
      @SoraKingdomss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@chrisgodfrey1880 Actually ebony is a sorcerer in the mcu.

    • @chrisgodfrey1880
      @chrisgodfrey1880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@SoraKingdomss No, he is just a powerful telekinetic. He does not cast spells, he does not know magic

  • @kimberly8695
    @kimberly8695 3 ปีที่แล้ว +596

    I can see why you would leave off any Asgardians. All Asgardians are versed in some form of magic.

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      Yeah, they deserve their own list.

    • @greenlantern9577
      @greenlantern9577 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They are honorable mentions in a top 11 to top 20

    • @sergeantsainsburys9181
      @sergeantsainsburys9181 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Old man loki pretty strong

    • @Prince_the_One
      @Prince_the_One 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      None of the Asgardians really showed much magical talent. Loki only recently started showing proficiency in magic, before he was just a shapeshifter. Freya was said to know magic and teach it to Loli, but even she never showed any great magical talent and she died super fast by just a regular weapon. Odin is the only Asgardian we know of who would even make it to this list.

    • @jesusramirezromo2037
      @jesusramirezromo2037 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Few of them know actuall magic
      Just Freya, Old Loki and Silvie

  • @THED3ADLY7
    @THED3ADLY7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +531

    I think that Wanda and Doctor Strange are going to be in the top 5 at least.

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      I’d say you are right

    • @Andre-z7q2p
      @Andre-z7q2p 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      They are the 2 more powerful creatures in the whole universe

  • @chestergervacio823
    @chestergervacio823 3 ปีที่แล้ว +438

    Even if wanda becomes a villian I will still love her

    • @DavonDepp
      @DavonDepp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I feel like she’s supposed to. And I feel like we as an audience are supposed to go thru a journey of madness with her before she ultimately chooses hood again. The rollercoaster is inevitable lol

    • @obama8285
      @obama8285 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      average dumb Wanda Stan

    • @Physchwo
      @Physchwo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      T

    • @cassiecasareo9193
      @cassiecasareo9193 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@obama8285 a-

    • @cookiii3110
      @cookiii3110 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      agreed

  • @hyunsoo_zx
    @hyunsoo_zx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    I wonder if Wanda being an hexus being immediately puts her above any other sort of being? Like, she is an event herself, a walking, thinking and powerful event

    • @nnodireginald6912
      @nnodireginald6912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      I agree, like the scale of her power is quite incomprehensible. I can't wait for multiverse of madness

    • @visibleguy1573
      @visibleguy1573 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hmmm i kinda agree with this

    • @yoyomayne
      @yoyomayne 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It does, Nexus beings are some ofthe most powerful beings, and their children above them

  • @danielturner1249
    @danielturner1249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +520

    I think Agatha should be above Nico. She is able to resist and absorb power from the Scarlet Witch, who for a long time was raw and wild in her extraordinary power much like Nico. I think Agatha could steal her power and resist her reality altering abilities like she does with Wanda's. Just my two cents, love the video. Any thoughts?

    • @ahmadday64
      @ahmadday64 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      i agree, i think agatha would steal the staff

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      Nico is above as she has the ability to simply banish Agatha to the dark dimension which Agatha could do nothing about. Additionally, Nico can use Dark Dimension power, Agatha couldn't absorb all of the power Nico can summon. Don't see that as a win condition for Agatha.
      Also, post-training Nico would be a master of the mystic arts, Wanda was not.

    • @bare9830
      @bare9830 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@ahmadday64 the staff can only be used by nico also nico can just teleport the staff back

    • @popcultureclips182
      @popcultureclips182 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Nah Wanda clearly outclasses both

    • @danielturner1249
      @danielturner1249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@popcultureclips182 Well yes obviously, Wanda is number 1. I just think Agatha has a goid chance of beating Nico

  • @mikee4462
    @mikee4462 3 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    I love that my girls Nico,Tina and Morgan were here. Thank you 😄

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Glad you liked it!

    • @auglyrat9235
      @auglyrat9235 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      We need to see them again! Hopefully in Young Avengers or something

    • @jefe-
      @jefe- 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Am I the only one that never knew about this lmao

    • @Crazyoldman84
      @Crazyoldman84 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jefe- I didn't 🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @msquared9605
    @msquared9605 3 ปีที่แล้ว +189

    I feel like Morgan le Fey’s most underrated power is being able to control and influence men and most women with just one look at her
    Honestly Elizabeth Hurley is one of the wonders of this world

    • @I-am-stevo
      @I-am-stevo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      56 to, insane

    • @FriendlyNeighborhoodGayGuy
      @FriendlyNeighborhoodGayGuy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Over here looking like Charlize Theron as Clea

    • @tonygabagool
      @tonygabagool ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve seen every mcu movie and never seen this character. What is she from?

  • @cryharley
    @cryharley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    I think one of the major things that show Wanda is the most powerful is that the others spent decades and some of them even centuries to do half the stuff Wanda does, while Wanda did the things she did without even knowing what she was doing or that it was magic

  • @cherechesalexdaniel811
    @cherechesalexdaniel811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    Dr strange with the time stone vs Morgan le fay would be an interesting match up.

  • @f1jones544
    @f1jones544 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Magic, the plot armor that keeps on giving.

  • @beyondzetabyte
    @beyondzetabyte 3 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    Morgan la fey is the one of the characters which you can't watch in living room

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      lmao

    • @amanpuri7079
      @amanpuri7079 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Which movies/tv shows does she appears? I didnt even see her on the mcu

    • @pyrobob5724
      @pyrobob5724 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@amanpuri7079 she's in Runaways. I actually haven't watched that far into the series but I'm definitely going to catch up now.

    • @pyrobob5724
      @pyrobob5724 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@KeyIssues you ought to have a sponsorship from The Runaways show, nobody has hyped me up to watch it as much as you lol

    • @realawesomeos
      @realawesomeos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pyrobob5724 so true

  • @hpmc7426
    @hpmc7426 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    I think the Ten Rings should be a special mention as Wong stated that when Shang Chi used the rings, they felt it in Kamah-Taj. Those are likely magically artifacts by nature.

    • @steepyt
      @steepyt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ten Rings is not magical, but a weapon that can manipulate elemental forces, which makes it fit to ShangChi who is a master of Chi (natural energy force). What wong detected is the strong energy disturbance created when the rings were being maxed out during the fight.
      Unless of course, MCU retcon it.

    • @zacherybryan8501
      @zacherybryan8501 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Shang-Ci was not released till after this video

  • @Akeno_Koneko
    @Akeno_Koneko 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Was fun working on this one! I used to watch a lot of cw DC shows but watching Runaways was something 😅

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Fantastic editing! Thanks again 😁

    • @RK-2411
      @RK-2411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah this is well edited 👍😊

  • @saehtnyS
    @saehtnyS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    i love how you mentioned that she is the ONLY sorcerer that can use astral projection WHILE conscious

  • @MegaOwy123
    @MegaOwy123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Finally recognition for the shows

  • @firery794
    @firery794 3 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Yeah I can see how Wong is at #9. The fact that he got destroyed by a fire hydrant is not a good feat.

    • @darthkek1953
      @darthkek1953 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Fire Hydrants are OP in MCU

    • @firery794
      @firery794 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@darthkek1953 yeah

    • @panjar9634
      @panjar9634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Fire Hydrant > Wong

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      T_T

    • @kieron1212
      @kieron1212 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lmao i thought he would be higher but nvr mind

  • @WhiteRaven696
    @WhiteRaven696 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I need Nico to show up in the movies, she’s so amazing.

    • @jyannananana1717
      @jyannananana1717 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Has to be the same actress I hope... Lyrica Okano did great and plus points for doing her own stunts...

  • @Nulono
    @Nulono 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What I love about this channel is that it's one of very few MCU channels that actually cover the entire MCU instead of just the movies and Disney+ series.

  • @chaychaytatskie2903
    @chaychaytatskie2903 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wanda Maximoff is a walking Mind Stone, Power Stone, Reality Stone
    Scarlet Witch is THE walking Infinity Gauntlet

  • @ODISeth
    @ODISeth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    This is really useful for me cause I wasn’t aware there even were 10 notable enough sorcerers to know about in the MCU lmao

  • @mothiskobeni
    @mothiskobeni 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Nice to see runaways getting some love, I never see it mentioned in these kinds of videos

  • @Bob-fe8qn
    @Bob-fe8qn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    The only one I disagree with is the ancient one. Personally I would put her at the top however the feats I use are inconsistent and it’s kind of a highball

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Strange just has more consistent feats + he should have more experience than her + eidetic memory

    • @Empire_11
      @Empire_11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yeah key issues you were wrong about that one

    • @Anthony-po3dx
      @Anthony-po3dx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KeyIssues no

    • @niweshlekhak9646
      @niweshlekhak9646 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@KeyIssues by no means Strange has more experience, she has probably looked into the future multiple times, Strange did it only once.

    • @redeem5858
      @redeem5858 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cry

  • @lapizlapoppy
    @lapizlapoppy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Love how The Runaways' characters are on here. Definitely an underrated show.

  • @Dragonfire-ir5ln
    @Dragonfire-ir5ln 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Also there are some theories that wanda just BECOMING the scarlet witch made the nexus events from loki

    • @afifi2779
      @afifi2779 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nope its not...it supposed to happen...it is she destiny

    • @rednblue4383
      @rednblue4383 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@afifi2779 i know but what they're saying that event was so powerful it caused a crack, but the director i think confirmed that wanda becoming the scarlet witch did not do it, but they're sneaky, so we're not that sure

    • @afifi2779
      @afifi2779 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rednblue4383 crack??? That has nothing to do with nexus event....she is indeed destiny to become scarlet witch..the darkhold who was written million years ago proof it...all of these is supposed to happen

    • @rednblue4383
      @rednblue4383 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@afifi2779 dude a crack in the multiverse is basically a nexus event and it has nothing to do with something that is not supposed to happen it just generated a lot of really powerful energy (like doctor strange messing up his spell, don't tell me him messing it up was not supposed to happen)

    • @afifi2779
      @afifi2779 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rednblue4383 The Watcher talk to Ultron in what if ep 8....The Watcher domt realize he talking to Ultron is part of the "script" AKA sacred timeline...both travel to each universe while fight...and Nexus Event is something that not supposed to happen..where you get your info about "nexus event has nothing do with with not supposed to happen"??

  • @shafir9080
    @shafir9080 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I would Put Agatha higher, she absorbs any magic energy projected to her. She took out a whole coven of proficient witches, has dark hold access and only bested by the number 1 on this list.

  • @kadrehall522
    @kadrehall522 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I love Wanda to my heart .the 1# best character ever:)

    • @Andre-z7q2p
      @Andre-z7q2p 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dr strange is Wanda's mentor 💀🤣

  • @connorgolden4
    @connorgolden4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Good thing you don’t include the Asgardian as, they’d take up several high spots. The odinforce is super OP.

    • @niweshlekhak9646
      @niweshlekhak9646 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Odinforce is not magic though, it's just brute force.

  • @naveenraj6264
    @naveenraj6264 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well said about wanda. Explored the wanda's powers details completely.

  • @bigkk4923
    @bigkk4923 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I think Strange could be 1st if you count with the time stone, all though I also think that Wandas magic is more powerful than Stranges magic. We haven't seen a real fight with Dr.Strange were we see his power fully, in his first movie he had just started out with magic, in Infinity War he couldn't use the time stone in combat and in Endgame he didn't have the timestone with him and he knew that he couldn't fight Thanos bcs he knew that Tony had to. Also, Strange have all the books to read in Kamar Taj and I think that that will make him more powerful

    • @Jack-hi1hq
      @Jack-hi1hq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      The dark hold contains infinite knowledge and shows the reader whatever they’re looking for. By that logic Wanda would still be number 1 I think

    • @danibobmk1998
      @danibobmk1998 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Wanda is still definitely the most powerful

    • @SwatiKumari-lh7ef
      @SwatiKumari-lh7ef 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can we talk about strange without time stone, eye of agamotto, books of Kamartaj... can we??

    • @1slummzzs
      @1slummzzs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s already written in the dark hold, MORE POWERFUL THAN THE SORCERER SUPREME..

    • @bigkk4923
      @bigkk4923 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@1slummzzs Strange knows way more spells, Strange has way more skill than Wanda, sure she might have more pure power but Strange knows more than her

  • @BartSyrenno
    @BartSyrenno 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Centuries Old Sorcerers: With Practice Comes Power
    Wanda: Yall Practiced?

    • @Nico.Minoru
      @Nico.Minoru 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wanda practiced aswell idiot…she practiced inside the comic and live action just stop trynna make her seem like something she isnt. Spreading misinformation is all fun in games untill you get corrected then yall start getting defensive over being confronted. 😐 sit down

    • @BartSyrenno
      @BartSyrenno 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Nico.Minoru Chile why u getting mad over a joke, I literally said it as a joke cus Wandas magic in the MCU came really easily for her in the beginning bruh

    • @Nico.Minoru
      @Nico.Minoru 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BartSyrenno proving my point…when confronted yall get all serious and defensive.😐 nd no you didnt state that it was a joke, no where in the comment did you mention it was a “joke” take a seat next please.

    • @BartSyrenno
      @BartSyrenno 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Nico.Minoru bruh I'm all serious and defensive cus u picked a fight over nothing, it's pretty clear it's a joke. Literally the most dumbest thing to prove a point on. Girl bye, you thought u ate.

    • @Nico.Minoru
      @Nico.Minoru 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BartSyrenno defensive cause you got called out for spreading the wrong information..clearly showcasing everything i said in my comment. Uneducated and foolish dont speak on something you dont know about. If your not gonna argue civil then dont start- cause clearly you still need classes, the way you project is coming off as a low level learner….☺️have an amazing day! Make sure to get a daily check up “girl”.

  • @daltonhawthorne4538
    @daltonhawthorne4538 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was an awesome video. I loved every choice you made. I have an idea that might help within what I call “The Multiverse of Television!” You’d get examples of Genie (Jafar Genie) from Aladdin, Rumplestiltskin (Once Upon A Time) and more I cannot yet think of. You have really showcased where true power does lie!

    • @diontubby8802
      @diontubby8802 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      👆🤦‍♂️...O.M.G

  • @MasterZel
    @MasterZel 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Finally someone includes Runaways as a part of the MCU! Thank you

  • @raum989
    @raum989 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Agatha is more powerful and experienced than the two Minouro

  • @MegaMason2005
    @MegaMason2005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    U ate the whole video up

  • @carlocruz3192
    @carlocruz3192 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Imagine if wanda studied mystic arts like dr strange, and became a student of Agatha.

  • @MegaMason2005
    @MegaMason2005 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    YOU ATE THE TRANSITION FROM NICO TO TINI MINURO

  • @purevessel4506
    @purevessel4506 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Doctor Strange Supreme from What If is definitely the most powerful sorcerer. He was able to change a fixed point in time that even the time stone couldn't do and momentarily held back the universe from collapsing and his shields still stood even after the universe was destroyed. He is OP

    • @nnodireginald6912
      @nnodireginald6912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think the video is looking at their individual powers and strengths without power ups. Strange supreme was augmented by draining the power of other magical beings. Something Agatha Harkness does well.

    • @sergesmpoungui8546
      @sergesmpoungui8546 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@nnodireginald6912 the video was made 2 months ago, I don't think it includes strange suprem

    • @y._.ganchev
      @y._.ganchev 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's a what if story, it has it in it's name. Meaning that it's not canon, it's just a "reality" where this event happened, I think the video was about a more canon version of the MCU

    • @kdsniperr6270
      @kdsniperr6270 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@y._.ganchev that’s actually false. What if is cannon to the MCU and confirmed to be by the directors. What if just didn’t effect “our” timeline

    • @redeem5858
      @redeem5858 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If what if truly scales to mcu than Wanda is above the sorcerer supreme which is dr strange if I’m correct.

  • @chrisgodfrey1880
    @chrisgodfrey1880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So I only watched the first season of the Runaways but after this video I'm far more inspired to dive into season 2 and 3

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's worthwhile

  • @doctor4961
    @doctor4961 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dude i love it that you include non marvel studios media, since they are a part of the MCU as well (like tie-in comics or series), most yt channels don't include them just bcs they are not as famous

  • @jyannananana1717
    @jyannananana1717 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loved the Tina and Nico Minoru inclusion ❤️

  • @Shiftry87
    @Shiftry87 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    At first i read the tagged comment and thought Scarlett Witch is for sure number 3 without knowing if the Wanda series would be used here and she would go up to number 2 then number 1 as that series progressed. But sense they did use the Wanda series here then definatly number 1 100% agree.

  • @decholes95
    @decholes95 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m a simple man I see a video involving Scarlet, I click

  • @thatneli
    @thatneli 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    MCU has powerful sorcerers and we were probably gonna get more in the future

  • @lucioback6698
    @lucioback6698 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Once Doctor Doom makes an appearance he’ll easily be in the top 3

    • @stephenheath8465
      @stephenheath8465 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      People forget that he is not only a brilliant Scientist/Engineer, but a first rate Magic user also

    • @lukazade1
      @lukazade1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stephenheath8465 i never knew he was a magic user

  • @cherechesalexdaniel811
    @cherechesalexdaniel811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Do a top 10 most powerful star wars characters.

  • @brysonwillson5363
    @brysonwillson5363 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Agatha deserves a lot more respect knowing the only reason she lost is because she was tricked she can actually destroy thanos.

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      no she cant

    • @brysonwillson5363
      @brysonwillson5363 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@KeyIssues its proven not just in the comics but by multiple people who work in marvel 😬

  • @torrentarrow9097
    @torrentarrow9097 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Loki should be super powerful and a op sorcerer but got nerfed into oblivion in the MCU sadly

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Holding himself back. We will see him become extraordinarily powerful

    • @kronos1794
      @kronos1794 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The show shows what he is capable of. Old Loki recreated Asgard which to me means he was able to create it out of nothing which is high level magic.

    • @kronos1794
      @kronos1794 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @GM Rey Sigh. I really miss comic Loki. He was just so much more menacing

    • @darthkek1953
      @darthkek1953 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I like the Classic Loki explanation... if MCU Loki had spent less time with brute stabby things and more time with magic he'd be vastly stronger.

    • @niweshlekhak9646
      @niweshlekhak9646 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@darthkek1953 Frigga says in Thor 2, Loki is not interested in reading books. So, whatever he learned is probably what interested him.

  • @silverninja5218
    @silverninja5218 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I like this I don't know Morgan Le Fey that much but I will take you judgment into consideration. Also Scarlet Witch's reality warping I believe is permanent as the bulletproof vest that was changed into a dress could be taken out of the hex. Also the reality stone isn't permanent as when Thanos left Drax and Mantis went back to normal so Scarlet Witch is presumably more powerful then a infinity stone.

    • @johnelmartagbago3764
      @johnelmartagbago3764 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Im pretty sure Thanos just wants to delay his opponents, so he doesnt bother making the reality warping effects permanent.

    • @afifi2779
      @afifi2779 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nope...the reality stone can be permanent...when thanos turn the whole place become a fire...that is permanent

  • @klydeoliversecular8553
    @klydeoliversecular8553 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I vote for Wiccan aka Billy(son of Scarlet Witch) to be more powerful than her mother and he also becomes a Sorcerer Supreme with the guidance of Dr. Strange and also he is called as a Messiah/God in another dimension..

    • @rust5427
      @rust5427 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's weird as he will become the Demiurge, which is the one that created the elder gods, of which chthon is included. It's like a cycle.
      Wanda gives birth to Billy, Billy becomes the Demiurge, Demiurge creates the elder gods, Chthon imprints Wanda with chaos magic. It's self referential

  • @adityathakur8481
    @adityathakur8481 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I just found out due to Invincible and now watching your video teaches me the depth of these characters and story. Amazing Channel you have grown.

  • @chaychaytatskie2903
    @chaychaytatskie2903 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The only person who can stop Wanda is Wanda

  • @taylernorris5647
    @taylernorris5647 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Update needed with “What if…” out.
    Cagliostro (O-Bengh)
    the Evil (or lost his heart/split) Dr. Strange
    And Shang-Chi
    The Mandarin and the Ten Rings

  • @zacharyhenzhon5539
    @zacharyhenzhon5539 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Every magic user gets thought how to use it
    Wanda: hey look i can make breakfast for dinner with my magic

  • @matthewcampos6517
    @matthewcampos6517 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool video, good vibes. I love runaways and appreciated having them power scaled in this video. Have to point out Runaways isn't really in the MCU at this time. The hulu series was stand alone and not connected with MCU proper.

  • @RK-2411
    @RK-2411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'd love to see more top 10 lists 🥰

  • @itsketchup8114
    @itsketchup8114 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One day in the future, I hope they made a movie where agatha makes a special appearance and helps wanda and the avengers

    • @tsuumee4545
      @tsuumee4545 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just want to see Agatha and Doctor Strange meet and interact. That’s all I want.

  • @Vader255
    @Vader255 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great scaling video as always.i can't wait for the kylo eclipsing vader video most people down play kylo heavily even tho he's a top tier and in my opinion is only below the force gods,Sidous and Vader.also an amped rey.

    • @darthkek1953
      @darthkek1953 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fun fact: Kylo and Rey do not exist in REAL Star Wars.

    • @Supershackda
      @Supershackda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@darthkek1953 Fun fact, gatekeeping and saying things you don't like aren't part of a fictional universe that you don't have any creative input into doesn't make you a 'real' fan, it makes you a cunt.

  • @Killer-Frost18x
    @Killer-Frost18x 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s simple and obvious that Wandas powers out shine stranges by a ton. She can astral project while in the state of both minds where as strange can only be in one mind during astral projection. She doesn’t have to make weird hand movements to cast magic or weapons such as strange. She flips her fingers a few times a casts a massive wave of magic without speaking or doing crazy hand gestures. It’s so much obvious information as to why Wanda is more powerful than strange but a lot of people are still in denial of that

    • @purevessel4506
      @purevessel4506 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She's definitely more powerful than main timeline Strange that's for sure. It was even confirmed in WandaVision. Doctor Strange Supreme from What If destroys her along with the rest of the Avengers tho

    • @Killer-Frost18x
      @Killer-Frost18x 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@purevessel4506 well mcu canon the scarlet witch was retconned basically as a celestial. She’s this “mythical being” who was forged and destined to destroy planets and her power exceeds that of all the sorcerer supreme roles so she smashed base strange by a mega ton. She has chaos magic, reality magic, and the dark hold book. 3 new items which buffed her insanely. I don’t think strange supreme has chaos magic but I do know he can really take over a bunch of realities with his powers.

  • @Protocol36
    @Protocol36 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Awesome video! It will be interesting to see where Doctor Doom would land when he gets introduced in the MCU 🤔

    • @MajinMind
      @MajinMind 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Directly after Dr Strange or higher, depending on the iteration

    • @mitchietorres_stan
      @mitchietorres_stan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      wasnt he on fantastic 4?

    • @stephenheath8465
      @stephenheath8465 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MajinMind Comic book canon not MCU,between Strange and Morgana

  • @littlebigbunnyrabbit9520
    @littlebigbunnyrabbit9520 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm happy Runaways portrayed Morgan as a powerful sorceress rather than a jabroni. She's usually overlooked.

  • @austinamponsah1297
    @austinamponsah1297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Loki should have been added he's not an asgarden he even got drunk

    • @darthkek1953
      @darthkek1953 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      His magic isn't hugely powerful unless as Classic Loki.

    • @doctor4961
      @doctor4961 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well he is part of the "asgardian mythos" and a asgardian citizen

    • @austinamponsah1297
      @austinamponsah1297 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Okay Migrated🌝🌝

    • @alienalchemist
      @alienalchemist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Loki is a Frost Giant.

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thor would consider him an Asgardian.

  • @fynningwersen6735
    @fynningwersen6735 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video and looking forward for the top video of the asgardians.

  • @YouVSMeTV
    @YouVSMeTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I mostly agree. I will say that I believe Morgan Lafay should be a number one simply because of the entirety of her feats and what she’s been known to do canonically. But I understand that we’ve actually seen Wanda in action and so far she has surpassed everyone but I still think she should be number two or at least a tie.

    • @1ORiiON
      @1ORiiON 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      💯 Agreed!!! yet I can see her place here. If it were based on Morgana's entire rap sheet no doubt she holds 👑

    • @Matt4pf
      @Matt4pf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Arcyis how is that not canon😂😂😂

    • @rubinorusodenalos8173
      @rubinorusodenalos8173 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Arcyis she is have you ever read a comic wtf

  • @galactictiger9947
    @galactictiger9947 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    just a reminder that Storm was the first choice for the High Priestess. Wanda was the second choice. So Storm could potentially use magic even better than Wanda.

  • @redeem5858
    @redeem5858 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    After seeing the leaks for the his new upcoming movie, Wanda is gonna be a next level powerful world ending being.

  • @muthudeva1573
    @muthudeva1573 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Evil strange :hold by beer 🤣🤣🤣😂

  • @MynameisJoey
    @MynameisJoey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Could you make a difference between true MCU canon and the half-canon shows? (Like Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D, Runaways, Cloak and Dagger and the Netflix Shows)
    I'd personally like it better that way, but I understand that that's an endless discussion.
    Still, I really like your videos!

    • @probot6515
      @probot6515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They're fully canon.

    • @probot6515
      @probot6515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Now to tackle some misconceptions.
      *Helstrom was confirmed to not be set in the Marvel Cinematic Universe*
      Marvel Television boss Jeph Loeb confirmed the Adventure into Fear shows were connected to Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. through the same iteration of Ghost Rider.
      The show contains the MCU-exclusive brand O'Harren's Scotch Whisky from several of the shows.
      The show contains MCU-exclusive newspaper The San Francisco Tribune from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
      The show contains MCU-exclusive newspaper The Dallas Record from Iron Man 2.
      The show contains MCU-exclusive newspaper The New Orleans Gazette from Cloak & Dagger.
      The show contains the MCU-exclusive design of the Roxxon logo from Cloak & Dagger.
      A newspaper that appeared had an unseen reference to the Sokovia Accords. The official prop is how we know this.
      Actors and tweets have referred to it as MCU.
      Paul Zbyszewski's interviews referred to the show primarily as not tied to the MCU, as in not tying into anything else, telling a standalone story. In the same interviews, he referred to it as "a pocket of the universe", making it clearer what he meant.
      *The snap didn't happen*
      Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S5 occurs because of Avengers: Infinity War. The events of that film are referenced heavily from 5x19 to 5x22.
      If Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S6-7 were not in the main timeline, the Earth would be destroyed in 2018. There is no work around.
      In Avengers: Endgame, we see that society functions after the snap. People still go to restaurants, have jobs, and play video games. In WandaVision, we see hospitals are operational.
      Captain America says that people have moved on from the snap. We can see that only a few people are still going to group therapy.
      Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S7 was intended to have a reference to the snap, with it being explained that the Quantum Realm could theoretically allow someone to survive the snap.
      The Runaways were only in Los Angeles after the snap occurred, and didn't have time to learn about the snap due to the issue of Morgan Le Fray.
      The Corvus WizPhones completely distracted users from their outside lives. It would definitely drive attention away from the snap.
      Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S6 didn't see much from the civilian point of view, and S.H.I.E.L.D. were preoccupied dealing with Sarge, Izel and the Shrike invasion.
      Helstrom, taking place in 2020 or 2021, is far enough after the snap that it is reasonable that a lot of people would move on with their lives.
      It is more unlikely that most of Peter's classmates died from the snap, as well as the original Avengers surviving the snap while the newer movie characters don't, than the cast of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. surviving, but those happened as well. It being unlikely doesn't make it impossible. It's simply plot convenience.
      Theories
      The Runaways cast were in the Dark Dimension during the snap, which is outside of time and in another dimension. It's possible that they were not susceptible.
      It is unknown if demons are susceptible to the snap, and if they weren't, half of Helstrom wouldn't have been counted as a part of the 50%.
      *Different Tina Minoru*
      When Kevin Feige was asked about Tina Minoru in Doctor Strange, he stated that the Minoru in Doctor Strange is just an easter egg. "We never say Minoru in the movie, do we? No. So that picture, if it is in the art of book, is the only place you’d ever see that name... That’s how we always build the universe. There’s so many characters in the books that if we have need for a person to be in this place at this time and have a line or have no lines, we still want it to be someone, and often times that’s how the names come about. And the names we pull are the ones that are relatively top of mind or have been amongst characters we’ve thought about, like the Runaways, for a long time. I would call that an Easter Egg that most people won’t even see."
      *WandaVision's Darkhold design*
      WandaVision's director, Matt Shakman confirmed that the WandaVision's Darkhold is the same Darkhold from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.. It was just redesigned for WandaVision.
      *Mahershala Ali as Cottonmouth and Blade*
      An actor playing more than one character does not decanonize anything. Gemma Chan, played Minn-Erva in Captain Marvel, yet she will play Sersi in Eternals. Michelle Yeoh played Aleta in Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, yet she will play Jiang Nan in Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings. It doesn't really matter if Mahershala Ali will play Blade, because Cottonmouth is already dead.
      *Phil Coulson wasn't mentioned to be alive in Loki*
      Phil Coulson did die for 5 days after Loki killed him. Mobius' point was to make Loki feel bad because Loki is hurting people. Mentioning that Phil Coulson will be resurrected will not help Mobius.
      *James Gunn said shows aren't canon*
      James Gunn has no word in what makes it into a project he doesn't coordinate nor participate in. On the other hand, both the book "Wakanda Files" and the newest Disney attraction "Avengers Campus" allude to Netflix and ABC's shows in more than one occasion. James Gunn also denies the official tie-in comics are canon, dispite Marvel confirming they are with an official Red Stamp to state such. He also doesn’t know which Superman Bloodsport shot in The Suicide Squad dispite saying it’s set in the DC Extended Universe moments earlier. Additionally, he blatantly lies about having discussions regarding a Marvel/DC crossover movie. He was also unaware that Marvel Studios are developing an R-Rated Marvel Cinematic Universe movie, which is Deadpool 3, further showing his incompetence.

    • @cd8012
      @cd8012 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@probot6515 its only half cannon as none of them appear in the official timeline

    • @probot6515
      @probot6515 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cd8012 I agree that they aren't "cannons", but they are certainly canon to Earth-199999.
      Which official timeline? If they aren't included on any timeline, that's because of two reasons. For one, there's so much content. For two, they aren't a part of the Marvel Studios franchise.
      Not being relevant to the main storyline has nothing to do with canon. Kevin Feige has stated they are canon and the Marvel Studios franchise has contained nods to Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and Agent Carter. What more do you need? Oh yeah, Daredevil is in Spider-Man: No Way Home and Kingpin is in Hawkeye with the exact same actors.

    • @cd8012
      @cd8012 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@probot6515 wow this is very compelling

  • @yoyomayne
    @yoyomayne 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    New subscriber, keep up the good content 👌👏

  • @ProjektTaku
    @ProjektTaku 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    the mcu makes characters that are really weak in the comics really strong and make characters that are strong in the comics pretty weak and it annoys me a little bit

    • @captainsimp8864
      @captainsimp8864 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Like who?

    • @Farbauti616
      @Farbauti616 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@captainsimp8864 Loki is a prime example of this

    • @tophertwo4342
      @tophertwo4342 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Farbauti616 I’m confused did they completely nerf Loki or give him an Insane power boost? and who else is like that

    • @zamzamdobashi7304
      @zamzamdobashi7304 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Valkorace they nerfed Loki STUPIDLY. He’s a wimp in the movies. But is able to equal dr strange in the comics.

    • @Farbauti616
      @Farbauti616 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@zamzamdobashi7304 they nerfed Loki so bad that even I think Agatha Harkness would just ragdoll him. He’s practically just been reduced down to to Lady Sif that makes illusions and likes daggers.

  • @nana09181
    @nana09181 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wanda is my favorite marvel chacracter cause she is so powerful she can litteraly change the reality without and struggles she easily kill all the magic users by just snapping her fingers

  • @harrypausanos4128
    @harrypausanos4128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yeah no one could stop Wanda as we saw in dr strange MOM. She's now the most powerful avenger in the MCU

  • @28.4km
    @28.4km 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can't wait for Dr. Voodoo and Wiccans MCU Debut💙💚

  • @panthermagus3144
    @panthermagus3144 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I think that Agatha Harkness should be number 5. She took on Scarlet Witch and was equal for a while. Morgana le Fey should be number 1. For now. She trained for thousands of years. I think Doctor Strange and Scarlet Witch will become the two most powerful magic users in the MCU. I think that they will share the top spot. But otherwise I agree with your rankings. Love the videos.

    • @lemonteeeea
      @lemonteeeea 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      skill and knowledge maybe morgana is better but if we are comparing raw power then its already correct that wanda as scarlet witch is number one because as said shes supposed to be a myth as her raw power is extremely strong meaning even knowledge and experience cant compete with the scarlet witch’s power

    • @shreksmeatballs9435
      @shreksmeatballs9435 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think this is a list of raw power and not necessarily skill. In that contest, Wanda wins undoubtedly. She can, quite literally, do anything she wants. Morgan would be 1 if the list would be about who would win a fight against anyone else in the list.

  • @nathshivakavi8015
    @nathshivakavi8015 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I totally agree with your ranking

  • @spawncampe
    @spawncampe 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Now that What If is out, Supreme Strange is number 1. He destroyed his universe and defeated Ultron with infinity stones, which is more impressive than Thanos with stones since that universe had stronger stones and Ultron doesn't hold back

    • @aletharicks5334
      @aletharicks5334 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Scarlett witch is the goddess of chaos who could quite literally blip him from existence with a mere thought

    • @spawncampe
      @spawncampe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@aletharicks5334 funny, Ultron said the same thing and look how that turned out

    • @aletharicks5334
      @aletharicks5334 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@spawncampe thanos had to spend half his life looking for stones Wanda can do it anytime she wanted

    • @spawncampe
      @spawncampe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aletharicks5334 why'd you bring up Thanos?

    • @aletharicks5334
      @aletharicks5334 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@spawncampe felt like it

  • @sozkskslssss1018
    @sozkskslssss1018 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Only Disney canonity
    1-) Scarlet Witch
    2-) Dr. Strange
    3-) Agatha Harkness
    4-) Ancient One
    5-) Kaecilius (DD amp)
    6-) Wong
    7-) Loki
    8-) Frigga
    9-) Mordo
    10-) Krugarr

  • @Myunajj
    @Myunajj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    cant wait for wiccan to be in the #1 spot

    • @gabrielm925
      @gabrielm925 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So true but his mother will always be number one she technically wiped out all mutants because of doctor strange

    • @Myunajj
      @Myunajj 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gabrielm925 well wiccan is the demiurge so.... Idk lets see where this goes

  • @Samukelo_Pk_Msibi
    @Samukelo_Pk_Msibi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I personally would take out everyone who isn't in the MCU like characters from the comic books and The Runaways as those are not part of the canon since they had a one sided relationship with the MCU. Wanda, Doctor Strange & Ancient One definitely top 3. But I understand since this is your point of view and I respect it

  • @CrazyW0nderland
    @CrazyW0nderland 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I would love to see Niko in this MCU universe. With the same actress, she is so good.

    • @ph3onix.m3r72
      @ph3onix.m3r72 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      shes in the marvel: midnight suns game or whatever its called alongside the avengers, and in the runwaways comics she is linked the the avengers and captain marvel so I think they're slowly inching closer to adding Nico in

    • @CrazyW0nderland
      @CrazyW0nderland 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ph3onix.m3r72 that would be amazing

    • @apollo7817
      @apollo7817 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      marvel shows such as runaways are technically classed as mcu i believe

  • @trell_a
    @trell_a 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nico and Tina are cool as characters, and Nico as a sorcerer. Morgan as well.
    Wanda’s always gonna be the #1 W for me

  • @kennykarakura1030
    @kennykarakura1030 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Should wanda really count as a sorceress her powers are god level

    • @Mark001thefirst
      @Mark001thefirst 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yes its magic

    • @kennykarakura1030
      @kennykarakura1030 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Mark001thefirst yeah ok

    • @Nico.Minoru
      @Nico.Minoru 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There not god level…bruh wanda stans just make up so much non factual information. 😑 embarrassing and annoying

  • @custodiojamal5150
    @custodiojamal5150 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Each magic has their own different main application usage like
    Eldritch magic 🟠 - Conjuring shields and weapons made with pure energy
    Dark magic 😈 - Absorb different energy and people's life force
    Asgardian magic 🐍 - summoning weapons (daggers & swords mostly) and illusions tricks
    Chaos magic ♦️ - Casting spells without incantations and warp reality
    Witchcraft 🧙‍♀️ - Use *runes* to enchant and summon demonic entities, i think
    Mirror Dimension Magic 🔲 - Open a portal to the mirror dimension and manipulate the entire space and matter within
    Dark Dimension Magic 🌑 - Gives power to manipulate space & matter in reality and temporal Longevity

  • @patrickrobinson7541
    @patrickrobinson7541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I don’t know key issues I think the ancient one was stronger than doctor strange(no time stone, post endgame, pre doctor strange 2) because the ancient one slaps that same 4 stone Thanos from Infinity War but it doesn’t matter because Wanda slaps everyone on this list lol but…great content keep it up

    • @justinanderson2460
      @justinanderson2460 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When did the Ancient One even encounter Thanos??

    • @patrickrobinson7541
      @patrickrobinson7541 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justinanderson2460 I didn’t say she did I’m saying she would beat him if she did

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Strange just has more consistent feats + he should have more experience than her + eidetic memory

    • @patrickrobinson7541
      @patrickrobinson7541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KeyIssues actually the ancient one has more experience(from what we know) she’s more skilled in martial arts and mystic arts she can do things like knock peoples astral forms out of their bodies, slow down time, also she’s more powerful in the mirror dimension. Idk personally I side with the ancient one as of now

    • @justinanderson2460
      @justinanderson2460 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@patrickrobinson7541+
      While I agree to an extent about experience, remember Strange was stuck in the Dark Dimension for what's implied to be a ridiculous amount if time being destroyed over and over by Dormammu. Being constantly forced to fight a stronger opponent over and over and trying everything to succeed would technically give him more experience than the Ancient One in a legitimate combat setting. But that's kinda based on implic a tion so it's a bit up in the air. Still, his feats are more CONSISTENT. And I think that was the point they were making. The AO was slowing down time in Astral form but at the same time, was overcome by physical attacks in combat - even if it was through a cheap surprise attack. By rights, Kaesilius shouldn't have ever gotten within arms reach if the AO in the first place. Compare that to Strange vs 4 Stone Thanos and it's a pretty massive difference.

  • @emokniet
    @emokniet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Since they introduced Wanda children, her son would be the strongest magic user in mcu.

  • @slimjesus9872
    @slimjesus9872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I’m sure Morgan Le Fey being so powerful is earned but I just really…..don’t wanna watch the runaways….

    • @vortechstg4091
      @vortechstg4091 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It was better than I thought it was gonna be actually. Still ended up being not that great but it sure as hell is no inhumans.

    • @doctor4961
      @doctor4961 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah i have painfully watched the first season years ago and recently tried to watch the second season and couldn't even finish the first episode, although this video REALLY made me want to watch it a lot more

    • @chrisgodfrey1880
      @chrisgodfrey1880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah I watched the first season and felt I was just watching a cheesy teen drama with super powers and bad acting. But this definitely inspired me to give the second and third season another attempt

    • @iI-bp9zl
      @iI-bp9zl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@doctor4961 is it in the main mcu timeline or is it not

    • @marshmellowd3640
      @marshmellowd3640 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@iI-bp9zl its hard to say. The Marvel TV shows before Wandavision were never stated to be part of the MCU but some of them referenced the movies and some characters in the MCU would appear in some of the shows.

  • @alternativemagician5172
    @alternativemagician5172 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love Nico Minoru, super underrated. Glad she made the list

    • @mitchietorres_stan
      @mitchietorres_stan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      whats the tv show,/movie where she appeared?

  • @brianm3160
    @brianm3160 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    For all those wondering about Strange Supreme;
    1. He stole other being's powers
    2. He broke his oath
    3. The Scarlet Witch has more raw power compared to Strange Supreme who required centuries of absorbing powers to get to that level
    4. As we saw, Wanda's only weakness was runes, she can't be depowered, even after Agatha thinking she took all her powers, she still was capable of performing magic

    • @afifi2779
      @afifi2779 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      5. This video out before Strange Supreme even exist

    • @MMAisTHEbestSPORT08
      @MMAisTHEbestSPORT08 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Supreme strange became way above Wanda's level once he absorbed 5 beings. By the end of his absorbing fest he was 1000000x more powerful than prime Wanda.

    • @MMAisTHEbestSPORT08
      @MMAisTHEbestSPORT08 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Wanda can be killed by bullets or lightning. Wanda can be killed from a pinch from Thor. Strange supreme can't be killed by bullets or anything like that because his skin is nearly invulnerable

    • @amberheard7217
      @amberheard7217 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MMAisTHEbestSPORT08 if u cant accept or not wanda is stronger

    • @MMAisTHEbestSPORT08
      @MMAisTHEbestSPORT08 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@amberheard7217 Wanda is weak, accept it

  • @jordanwilshaw6318
    @jordanwilshaw6318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Something I thought was interesting, is that in Spiderman No Way Home, strange states that Wong became the sorcerer supreme on a technicality. In the dark hold which Agatha read to Wanda, it states that the scarlet witch is said to be more powerful than the sorcerer supreme. This tells me that we still dont know whether strange is more powerful than Wanda as he isn't technically the sorcerer supreme.

    • @Timeline4313
      @Timeline4313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But the Darkhold didn't specify the current sorcerer supreme. Wanda is more powerful than anyone to hold the SS position, period.

    • @jordanwilshaw6318
      @jordanwilshaw6318 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Timeline4313 yeah that’s what I mean - strange isn’t the sorcerer supreme at the moment 🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @yuleclay2785
      @yuleclay2785 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Whoever,Whatever That Person Is As long as Hes/Shes A Sorcerer Supreme He/shed Be still below the scarlet Witch.

    • @Timeline4313
      @Timeline4313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yuleclay2785 That's what I'm saying^^

  • @laurence4557
    @laurence4557 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    where would u put billi maximoff in this list?

  • @yueshijoorya601
    @yueshijoorya601 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My classic Loki has already been forgotten :')

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He will be in the Asgardian video

  • @lindenskywalker6881
    @lindenskywalker6881 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Should update this list after doctor strange 2 👌

  • @quickforce9004
    @quickforce9004 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you check the MCU wiki you will find that the staff used by the "unknown sorceress" was just called "the Staff". It and the Staff of One are 2 completely different mystic artifacts.

  • @Bob-fe8qn
    @Bob-fe8qn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I don’t know if dormamu counts but I do think he would be number one if he did

  • @isaacmaximoff5619
    @isaacmaximoff5619 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Top 2 and not 2. Great list she’s only just getting started and will only continue to get more powerful.. Cant wait for multiverse of madness!

  • @captainmalcolmreynolds1526
    @captainmalcolmreynolds1526 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think ghost rider should be on the list since he is technically a magic user

    • @darthkek1953
      @darthkek1953 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is he a sorcerer?

    • @jesusramirezromo2037
      @jesusramirezromo2037 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@darthkek1953 He cast a sling ring portal

    • @eivor3975
      @eivor3975 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He is not a magic user

  • @goodforyou
    @goodforyou 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every sorcerer: i want to be/do more!
    Wanda: tf is that red thing?