Let it be known Ghost rider had one job to make sure the darkhold wouldn’t used again after aos. And yet the world nearly got merged with the dark dimension and the multiverse was at risk.
If AoS indeed takes place in 616 (which there are some leaks that said Quake will appear but different from the series and Coulson will be adressed to be dead since Avengers) it is probably a different copy, we can say that the real original darkhold is the throne in Wundagore and some people seem to be able to copy it
As a shield fan I didnt need all the extra explanation as to why the darkhold corrupted Wanda. But I understand why people would feel confused by her sudden shift to do whatever it takes to get her kids. In the end watching agents of shield did service the mcu for me.
@@madnessarcade7447 I watched it. I watched them completely ignore MCU events like the snap, have different rules for time travel compared to Endgame, and had a completely different Darkhold .
Merlin banished Morgan Le Fay to the Dark Dimension, since he was the sorcerer supreme of the 12th Century. Using the Staff of Avalon, a staff with a green gem in the center. The green gem in Authorian Legend is known as “The Heart of Avalon”, but in this case of the MCU lore, it’s the Time Stone. Similarly, the Heart of Avalon has time manipulating abilities, not on the same level as the Time Stone, but close enough. This is how Authorian Legends relate to the MCU, with Morgan Le Fay, Merlin, and King Author.
Yeah and a funny thing is… I never actually knew the name of Merlin’s staff. Avalon is just an island in Authorian legends as well lol… So I just called it that.
You forgot to mention that Wanda destroyed all of the copies of the Darkhold in all universes. It’s mentioned in Agatha All Along first episode. ‘There was a fire…”
6:17 Actually, while yes Eli did became jealous and eventually tempted to take the Darkhold, he was hesitant to do. The reason he attempted to kill Joe & Lucy Bauer was because in their paranoia of Eli temptation to take the book, Joe hired the Fifth Street Locos to kill Eli, resulting them mistaking his nephew Robbie for his uncle. Eli betrayed them, because when he heard the news of Robbie's death (unknown to him) and Gabe's paralysis, he retaliated by attempted to murder them and allowed his his rage to fuel his obsession with the Darkhold.
Since the book is established to be a copy in Multiverse of Madness, I assumed that Agatha's Darkhold and the book from the other shows were simply two different coppies made by two different people who each went to the source castle, hense the different covers.
just saying… america and strange didn’t “defeat” wanda, she realized she was wrong and gave up. Wanda had the power to get what she wanted at that point, but didn’t want to.
its because she came to the realization that if she claimed her children from another universe she would be hurting them because of all the bad she did
Is it the spells or the book that does the corrupting? If it's the book, then a user could have read it front to back and transcribe it into a non-Darkhold book.
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I’m not sure if the one Morgan had is the same as the one Robbie had they were different colors if I recall and she never mentioned taking it from Robbie if I remember so there could have been multiple books
the book of Veshanti is a book from the order dimention and its full of order magic created to combat chaos magic by the god Veshanti. in the comics Veshanti is one of Dr strange's patrons who gave him the power or Order Magic
@@drogadepc Wrong, sorry jackass you may have forgotten Avengers 2 was kicked into action 100% because of Agents of Shield. There's no... getting around it, pretending it didn't happen. You either accept it or don't but it most certainly is canon. Let's also not forget Captain Marvel and all the shit that transpired between her and pre-shield.
@@fangslore9988 Bro, how can it not be canon until at least season 3? How can you undo Coulson's appearance in Iron Man or theta protocol in Age of Ultron or the super large-scale events of Captain America 2. In any case, if AOS is not canon, then Marvel is trash for me.
@@eduardpysanka5490 because after season 3 they fully ignored the events of the movies as if it didnt happen and had the inhumans in camps spread out across the world rather than in their city and even played out events the avengers likely would have taken interest in and would have attempted to solve
Can someone give me the short explanation on how these shows are canon. I've watched them and the mcu and a lot. It seems to me that the mcu will make new variants of these characters like kingpin.
@@colereed7411 I've heard it's going to be all the same actors. If Elektra comes back, she might have a different actress because Elodie Yung is leading a different show right now (The Cleaning Lady).
@@KeyIssues Marvel hasn't stated that. It's obvious it's not the same character. Netflix's Kingpin wouldn't be able to casually rip a car door off it's hinges.
I saw it, but I want to say that these shows can't be compared at all and I (just my opinion based on desire:)) don't consider Runaways canon, because it's just a terrible show in my opinion.
I thought they're were multiple copies existing all across the multiverse. Cause agatha I believe had on in her coven which she studied and was forbidden. Hence why it looks different.
There're multiple copies across the multiverse but the content. AoS isn't canon tho and it had a different take on the Darkhold, aa they pretty much replaced the magic with sci-fi. They even made the Darkhold look like a laser printed physics book instead of a dark magic grimmoire.
@@drogadepc that's cause the dark hold looks to give the user what they want in the language they need/ want. So with Ada the darkhold give her wat she wanted in a way she can understand.
no, the original was destroyed so all copies within the MCU's universe was destroyed and copies from across the multiverse that are from the original, other universes with their own original copy/temple/throne will still have their Darkholds
Doesn't 616 Strange also get corrupted at the end of Multiverse of madness bc in the final scene he starts tweaking in the middle of the street and suddenly has a 3rd eye like the other corrupted strange had.
lol the decanonization of Marvel Agents of Shield sort of throws a spanner in the works, in the MCU Agatha's coven had kept it to keep it from falling into evil hands until Agatha stole it
She wasnt chasing them threw diminsions she was taking over a variants body which isnt permament which they explained very well if you watched the damn movie
The Minotaur is actually female… In the comics she is called Bova. A super intelligent hybrid; half human and cow, created by the High Evolutionary to act as midwife for the secret twins Magnito’s ex had birthed. (Pietro and Wanda) Bova was The Scarlet Witch’s nanny. Lolol I love that they not only put Bova in the movie, they had her defending Kamar Taj from the corrupt child she helped to raise.
What?? That's literally Rintrah, they look nothing alike and Bova would have absolutely no reason to be at the temple, you know, the same temple where Rintrah lives...? Wtf are you on about lol
ah yes the book on Eldrich magic and the book of Order Magic both in the comics are Dr strange's patrons whom he like other Sorcerer Supremes dating all the way back to Agamoto have served to keep earth out of Dormammu's hands
1. That's not how you spell canon. 2. No, it's canon because it was confirmed to be canon, and has been referenced by other canon television shows and canon Marvel Studios tie-in materials. Not to mention, it is an officially produced material that sets itself in the MCU, so it should automatically be canon until stated otherwise or contradicted, neither of which have happened with any authority. You've been misled by the Internet which distorted words and lied to you.
@@probot6515 it has been contradicted. In season 6 Piper references a time where male piper(always forget his name) got super drunk in 2018. That means AoS season 6 takes place after 2018. 2018 is the year of the blip. They never mention half of all life suddenly disappearing into dust in the show. So maybe it's an alternate timeline where instead of the blip all the Agents of Shield stuff happened. They did do a bunch of time travel shenanigans in season 5 so I think altered timeline is the best fan theory for canonocity. Or piper doesn't know years 🤷♂️
@@Tenshikichi1 It does take place in that universe. It literally sets itself in that reality. All 7 seasons take place in the MCU. The only times they're not is the 2091 scenes in S5 and the Alternate Timeline throughout S7. It's like you don't understand. Even ignoring the fact Kevin Feige confirmed it was canon, the fact that Daredevil is undeniably canon makes Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. canon because all Marvel Television shows are interconnected. A Judas Bullet from Luke Cage literally shows up! Okay, let's break it down. Netflix connects to Cloak & Dagger connects to Runaways connects to Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
@@zaferc2743 Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S5 occurs because of Avengers: Infinity War. The events of that film are referenced heavily from 5x19 to 5x22. The final scenes of S5 take place directly before the snap. If Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S6-7 were not in the main timeline, the Earth would be destroyed in 2018. There is no work around. In Avengers: Endgame, we see that society functions after the snap. People still go to restaurants, have jobs, and play video games. In WandaVision, we see hospitals are operational. Captain America says that people have moved on from the snap. We can see that only a few people are still going to group therapy. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S7 was intended to have a reference to the snap, with it being explained that the Quantum Realm could theoretically allow someone to survive the snap. Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S6 didn't see much from the civilian point of view, and S.H.I.E.L.D. were preoccupied dealing with Sarge, Izel and the Shrike invasion. It is more unlikely that most of Peter's classmates died from the snap, as well as the original Avengers surviving the snap while the newer movie characters don't, than the cast of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. surviving, but those happened as well. It being unlikely doesn't make it impossible. It's simply plot convenience. We only see a very small amount of these characters' lives on screen. Who's to say they don't reference the snap constantly between scenes? They might be referencing it every episode and we just didn't see it.
It's interesting but how Marvel denies non Disney+ shows being canon. Yet the Dark Dimension and Darkhold connect the continues of everything back to the movies. Agent Carter, AoS, Cloak & Dagger, and Runaways deal with the Dark Dimension. The only show that doesn't connect is Helstrom.
the book is written in Demonic (in the marvel universe) and only a few can even read it specifically those learned in the arcane ways such as the sorcerers of Shangri la in the comics and Kamar-Taj in the MCU as well as the witches
Even moreso with the reveal that Coulson is the one who called the Avengers to attack the Hydra compound at the beginning of Age of Ultron. They know he's alive!!!
@@RacingSnails64 they know according to the show, but the movies never acknowledge that. Coulson and Mack are suppose to be the director of SHIELD at one point but in the movies we always see Hill and Fury as if they are the leaders of the org. Lady Sif was suppose to tell Thor about Coulson, she disappeared from the movies. The only instance were it appears that the movies take the show into account is Age of Ultron with the Hellicarrier thing, but Fury never directly mention Coulson so they can always say he got it from another person/org. The show started to diverge more and more from the MCU since S3
@@kieransenra5996 It is canon, you've just been misled. It actually has been referenced by Marvel Studios projects serveral times. Recently, the computer screen props in Avengers: Endgame had Daniel Whitehall from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. on them, just offscreen.
@ agatha did manage to get the darkhold before wandavision, i think ghost rider and agatha harkness were in different universes so they had different darkholds i think
10:46 agatha was not amped by the knowledge of the darkhold and the darkhold is not an amp its just a book with knowledge that can corrupt u because if that counts as an amp then reading a normal book also counts as an amp and agatha only lost to wanda because wanda cheated💀
@@ThanosDestroyeryearsago agatha is amped by the witches magic not the darkholds knowledge SINCE darkhold itself is a book that gives u knowledge not power
In MoM (cool abbreviation) Wanda was powerful enough to beat an army of sorcerers just through adept use of her powers. She also managed to kill Professor X one of the most powerful telepaths in existence just by teleporting into her own mind and snapping his neck.
@@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective Wanda is strong enough to destroy the witches?? that's a wrong argument lol the right one is wanda is too strong just a little witch in Taj's room...
I believe agents of shield isn't Canon because I think there's a very high chance they're going to introduce Johnny Blaze as the main ghost rider, I loved the show but I just don't believe it's canon, i think anything that is on disney+ but not on the chronological order section isn't canon
I mean it is canon because they already introduced Johnny Blaze and retained it's timeline continuity all the way up until Captain Marvel. However, after Agents of Shield season 6 and 7 I believe they created a new timeline so Johnny Blaze can still show up.
@@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective Blaze showed up in season 4 and isn't ghost rider during season 4, so unless they're bringing in a multiversal variant as the main Blaze then they can't have a Blaze Ghost Rider in the future of the MCU and still retain that AOS is Canon I think it's more likely that alot of what happens in AOS happens in 616 but it's a different time line so they can pick and choose what to keep canon whil bringing in any characters from Agents of Shield they want that otherwise wouldn't be available to show
they decanonized it when they started doing their own thing though the canonisity is still debated because some are just arguing its a different timeline/universe
Nope, it's a book of dark magic it doesn't really "amplify" powers but rather gives access to dark and forbidden witchcraft that is likely considered occult. For example Aida didn't have any magical power prior to reading the book but she still managed to use it's magic to give herself a human vessal.
@@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective the darkhold actually brings out latent power to its maximum potential but no, it does not amplify magic and the reason for it bringing out the latent power to the maximum potentual is specifically because once you fall to its corruption it instructs you to draw out your full power and dark magic is by its very nature less restrained compared to other magics which is why Agatha's "purple" was so powerful even before sucking up the magics of other witches. in a nutshell it shows you how to unlock your full potential and teaches magics that by nature cannot be restrained or limited because Kathan didn't want to teach magic through the darkhold magics that could be restrained or limited
@@fangslore9988 That’s really cool to know and actually explains a lot of its shenanigans in Agents of Shield as well. Specifically Eli’s powers and Aida’s.
@@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective Agents of Shield are not canon sadly however it revealed that Agatha was too powerful and too much a risk for her motther's coven and it showed her how to absorb magic (incidentally absorbing magic was originally Doctor Strange's unique ability in the comics, he could absorb someone's magic or absorb and redirect their magic against the caster though he was not able to do this on divine entities like Dormammu or Mephisto
My problem with saying the Darkhold in AofS is the same as the one in MCU is that the books don't appear to follow the same rules. People can say that the cover changed and that's what makes it different but I think the real problem is that the content of the book is different. In AofS they gave the book the ability to show it's info in the prime language of the reader but the one in Wandavision doesn't look like it has te ability cause when Agatha is flipping the pages you only see symbols from a different language than english (not the abc alfabet) and big pictures. Talking about pictures, the AofS DH had images but primarily showed text, the Wandavision one showed drawings that cover a good part of the page. In the inside looks like 2 different books Also there's the fact that Agatha was attacked by her coven cause she learnt magic she wasn't suppose to, if that magic was from the Darkhold, in theory she has it since 1600 contradicting AofS timeline. Also the thing about Morgana findiing the DH after GR left in DD was from an interview or something? Cause I remember the show acting as if she always had the book and wasn't recent, but maybe I'm remembering that bad
It is definitely a retcon in design and functionality. It is the case where you have to picture that the AoS book always looked like the one in WV. Or they are two different books (both copies of the Wundagore Mountain transcripts). But we have an official book called Guidebook to the Marvel Cinematic Universe: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S4 and it established that Darkhold as the MCU one.
@@AngelGonzalez-kl5hz tell that to the "MCU is earth 199999" canon when literally all MCU proyects says is ETH 616. Tell that to Wong being dusted by the snap but in No Way Home they said he is the Sorcerer Supreme because he survived it. Tell that to a lot comments from directors and writters of Endgame about that movie that contradicts themselves or change what they say
@@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu In the Comics Multiverse, it is Earth-19999, to the MCU itself it is Earth-616, just like ItSV is 616, and more. It was never said whether Wong was dusted or not on screen. Off screen material like statements are retconned and contradcited, but the shows status in the MCU are on-screen proof.
No, because at the point of which Thanos arrived on earth, the book had already been taken by Ghost Rider. Avengers Endgame takes place during AOS's 5th season.
@@justsomeone1555 no, darkhold only adds dark magic and knowledge, while Thanos doesn't have chaos magic, it's different from scarlet witch, who has chaos magic true power, where with chaos magic, Scarlet Witch becomes high level outversal and her reality manipulation is Omniverse Level
There's one thing that's really important to keep in mind: Agents of S.H.I.EL.D is not canon. So that means that the laser printed physics book and the dark magic book are not the same Darkhold.
Wrong. The end. Also, to assume AOS isn't canon would stupidly undermine Age of Ultron and create so many plotholes after that movie. You should probably just accept it. AOS is canon up until it's 6 and 7th season. Hell they even name dropped Thanos.
@@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective how does them name dropping things make them canon? Agents of shield is not cannon and this has foot that made the video is lying 😂
@@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective that doesn't make any sense, the 6th and 7th season of AoS is very clearly in the same canon as the first 5 seasons, also Age of Ultron is the only project that connects to AoS, but the connection is vague so it could easily be disconnected from the show if Feige wanted it, every other connection is one way AoS referencing the movies, but considering Feige hated the Marvel Television side of the MCU, I think he'll most likely want to separate the shows from the MCU, especially after introducing the Multiverse and variants, it means he can pick and choose certain moments to be canon to keep in the lore while telling stories and introducing characters he wouldn't be able to if they were canon
@@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective I keep AoS in my personal canon because i like the show so much but the Age of Ultron is really not the slam dunk I see so many people trying to use it as. If Agents of Shield had decided not to set up Theta protocol, that doesn't mean the helicarrier would have been cut from Age of Ultron. The writers of AoS said Joss was writing Age of Ultron when Season 1 of AoS was in production; they just took the chance to integrate and ran with it. This is the easiest way to put it: The helicarrier does NOT appear in Age of Ultron because it was set up in Agents of Shield. The helicarrier is set up in Agents of Shield BECAUSE it appears in Age of Ultron.
@@anthonysmurthwaite6258 He's mixing up canon and on the timeline. Season 7 of AoS establishes that, at some point, the team went off what is now known as the Sacred Timeline. While Season 7 ends with them returning to that timeline, I still don't know if I believe that considering, that time, they use the same method as in Endgame. So it's up in the air. Point is, when people bring up AoS Seasons 6 and 7 not being 'canon', it's because they don't occur on the sacred timeline
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actually, marvel agents of shield were decanonized to the movies and became their own thing
I think you might be the literal only Marvel lore content creator who speaks at a digestible speed + gives appropriate context for outsiders. Thanks!!
Let it be known Ghost rider had one job to make sure the darkhold wouldn’t used again after aos. And yet the world nearly got merged with the dark dimension and the multiverse was at risk.
Lol, it'd be hilarious if Ghost Rider showed up out of no where in Doctor Strange and snatched the book from Wanda.
@@jordanpatterson8536 Ghost rider: Gimme dat
That cursed Morgan Lafay!!!!! 😈
If AoS indeed takes place in 616 (which there are some leaks that said Quake will appear but different from the series and Coulson will be adressed to be dead since Avengers) it is probably a different copy, we can say that the real original darkhold is the throne in Wundagore and some people seem to be able to copy it
Let's be honest. None of that is truly canon.
As a shield fan I didnt need all the extra explanation as to why the darkhold corrupted Wanda. But I understand why people would feel confused by her sudden shift to do whatever it takes to get her kids. In the end watching agents of shield did service the mcu for me.
Riiight??!
Hilarious how fervently people believe AoS is canon to the MCU.
@@YouScareMe1
It technically is. If Blackbolt’s appearance wasn’t brought just to die, than it’s clear we’ll see him again.
@@YouScareMe1 clearly you never watched it
@@madnessarcade7447 I watched it. I watched them completely ignore MCU events like the snap, have different rules for time travel compared to Endgame, and had a completely different Darkhold .
Merlin banished Morgan Le Fay to the Dark Dimension, since he was the sorcerer supreme of the 12th Century. Using the Staff of Avalon, a staff with a green gem in the center. The green gem in Authorian Legend is known as “The Heart of Avalon”, but in this case of the MCU lore, it’s the Time Stone. Similarly, the Heart of Avalon has time manipulating abilities, not on the same level as the Time Stone, but close enough. This is how Authorian Legends relate to the MCU, with Morgan Le Fay, Merlin, and King Author.
None of this is confirmed at all lol
@@KeyIssues Just a theory, my guy. It makes sense, since Morgan is tied in with Authorian Legends.
It’s all tide into religion esoterics and real timelines
Also according to the legend her actual name is Morgana and not Morgan
Yeah and a funny thing is… I never actually knew the name of Merlin’s staff. Avalon is just an island in Authorian legends as well lol… So I just called it that.
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You forgot to mention that Wanda destroyed all of the copies of the Darkhold in all universes. It’s mentioned in Agatha All Along first episode. ‘There was a fire…”
6:17 Actually, while yes Eli did became jealous and eventually tempted to take the Darkhold, he was hesitant to do. The reason he attempted to kill Joe & Lucy Bauer was because in their paranoia of Eli temptation to take the book, Joe hired the Fifth Street Locos to kill Eli, resulting them mistaking his nephew Robbie for his uncle. Eli betrayed them, because when he heard the news of Robbie's death (unknown to him) and Gabe's paralysis, he retaliated by attempted to murder them and allowed his his rage to fuel his obsession with the Darkhold.
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Bro...Back in 2012-2019 I never thought the MCU would have so much interesting lore.
The MCU goes way further back than 2012-2019....... All of this lore was NOT created after 2012
“Stephen Strange, possessing a dead body is forbidden.”
Forbidden by who, Death? Mistress Death?
"In Soviet darkholde, book reads you! "
Since the book is established to be a copy in Multiverse of Madness, I assumed that Agatha's Darkhold and the book from the other shows were simply two different coppies made by two different people who each went to the source castle, hense the different covers.
no, the marvel agents of shield were decanonized since the MCU went into a different direction to what the show runners wanted to do
@@fangslore9988it’s still canon it’s the multiverse that’s the point of the multiverse everything can be canon
@@swagrjackrdraws420 except its not to the main mcu which is the point
@@fangslore9988 reasons???
Let’s start off by saying NOBODY NOT A SOUL “Defeated Wanda” 😐🤚🏾
Wanda defeated Wanda… With a massive push from ‘merica. Lolol
Rhodey used sonic taser on her, so he is the only one who defeated scarlet witch
Yup
and doctor strange@@zackkuehle8338
@@cookingwitharek9099 that was not defeating her. It was like a little weakness and she wasn’t even the Scarlet witch yet.
“Curious volume of forgotten lore!” Lmao. I gotcha.
just saying… america and strange didn’t “defeat” wanda, she realized she was wrong and gave up. Wanda had the power to get what she wanted at that point, but didn’t want to.
So I hope u learned for ur own life in the name of love and justice.
its because she came to the realization that if she claimed her children from another universe she would be hurting them because of all the bad she did
Love the intro to this whole video 😂
Garrick made sure to put them yids in the thumbnail
It’s basically the ultimate book of dark magic
Is it the spells or the book that does the corrupting? If it's the book, then a user could have read it front to back and transcribe it into a non-Darkhold book.
@@Charolette21 both
More like the ultimate Book of Darkness and Corruption!
So basically Wikipedia
@@Charolette21 it's the book and it's author Chthon.
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How does this work with the Darkhold castle? With the whole Infinite knowledge situation.
Nevermind
Plot convenience
@@lightningboltt5437 no
@@lightningboltt5437 how?
marvel agents of shield was decanonized the Darkhold no longer possesses infinite knowledge but specific knowledge
I’m not sure if the one Morgan had is the same as the one Robbie had they were different colors if I recall and she never mentioned taking it from Robbie if I remember so there could have been multiple books
Can you also do The Book of Vishanti?
This would be critical
the book of Veshanti is a book from the order dimention and its full of order magic created to combat chaos magic by the god Veshanti. in the comics Veshanti is one of Dr strange's patrons who gave him the power or Order Magic
I like the WV darkhold model the most
Its just me that the bad guys has more history to them and more awesome power, magic, etc.? Am I not the only one?
So Wanda basically fired The Rider when she destroyed the Dark Hold in every universe
AoS isn't canon.
@@drogadepc Wrong, sorry jackass you may have forgotten Avengers 2 was kicked into action 100% because of Agents of Shield. There's no... getting around it, pretending it didn't happen. You either accept it or don't but it most certainly is canon. Let's also not forget Captain Marvel and all the shit that transpired between her and pre-shield.
@@drogadepc LoL GR Claps Anyways
@@SamaelMorningstar69claps what? Agents of Shield.
no, Marvel agents of Shield was decanonized because the series was doing its own thing and the MCU went into a new direction
Agents of shield is an awesome show!!!
Criminally underrated
yes, it was sadly its nolonger canon
@@fangslore9988 Bro, how can it not be canon until at least season 3? How can you undo Coulson's appearance in Iron Man or theta protocol in Age of Ultron or the super large-scale events of Captain America 2. In any case, if AOS is not canon, then Marvel is trash for me.
@@eduardpysanka5490 because after season 3 they fully ignored the events of the movies as if it didnt happen and had the inhumans in camps spread out across the world rather than in their city and even played out events the avengers likely would have taken interest in and would have attempted to solve
Can someone give me the short explanation on how these shows are canon. I've watched them and the mcu and a lot. It seems to me that the mcu will make new variants of these characters like kingpin.
Kingpin isn’t a variant it’s the same person. This has been stated by Marvel and the actor.
@@KeyIssues Didn't Charlie Cox say Daredevil reborn
@@KeyIssues Do you think the show that they're working on now is daredevil season 4 or a new reboot but with the same actor
@@colereed7411 I've heard it's going to be all the same actors. If Elektra comes back, she might have a different actress because Elodie Yung is leading a different show right now (The Cleaning Lady).
@@KeyIssues Marvel hasn't stated that. It's obvious it's not the same character. Netflix's Kingpin wouldn't be able to casually rip a car door off it's hinges.
Who else has seen the entirety of Agents of Shield and The Runaways
I saw it, but I want to say that these shows can't be compared at all and I (just my opinion based on desire:)) don't consider Runaways canon, because it's just a terrible show in my opinion.
I thought they're were multiple copies existing all across the multiverse. Cause agatha I believe had on in her coven which she studied and was forbidden. Hence why it looks different.
There're multiple copies across the multiverse but the content.
AoS isn't canon tho and it had a different take on the Darkhold, aa they pretty much replaced the magic with sci-fi. They even made the Darkhold look like a laser printed physics book instead of a dark magic grimmoire.
@@drogadepc that's cause the dark hold looks to give the user what they want in the language they need/ want. So with Ada the darkhold give her wat she wanted in a way she can understand.
in the mcu it was always with her coven, the Marvel Agents of Shield is sadly Decanonized
What's the name and artist of the background music?
It looks like ghost rider took the Darkhold to Mount Wondagore it looks just like the snowy landscapes in Multiverse of Madness
So will it come back in a different shape.
no, the original was destroyed so all copies within the MCU's universe was destroyed and copies from across the multiverse that are from the original, other universes with their own original copy/temple/throne will still have their Darkholds
Would you do a video on the octessence?
if i hear “America Shaw-vez” one more time… 🤨
Dude couldn’t link the other video?
Doesn't 616 Strange also get corrupted at the end of Multiverse of madness bc in the final scene he starts tweaking in the middle of the street and suddenly has a 3rd eye like the other corrupted strange had.
i love how no one cared or even knew that Agatha harkness just randomly had the darkhold-
fr tho
Where are you getting some of the offscreen information. I want to know more about it as well
lol the decanonization of Marvel Agents of Shield sort of throws a spanner in the works, in the MCU Agatha's coven had kept it to keep it from falling into evil hands until Agatha stole it
Well said. 😤
Please do MCU Loki power scaling
What is that??
If Wanda was chasing America and Strange through different dimensions, why did she need America's power?
She wasnt chasing them threw diminsions she was taking over a variants body which isnt permament which they explained very well if you watched the damn movie
@@smhgaming3259 Spot on. It's Dream Walking even with that restriction it's still OP.
she cannot travel between universes
The Minotaur is actually female… In the comics she is called Bova. A super intelligent hybrid; half human and cow, created by the High Evolutionary to act as midwife for the secret twins Magnito’s ex had birthed. (Pietro and Wanda) Bova was The Scarlet Witch’s nanny. Lolol I love that they not only put Bova in the movie, they had her defending Kamar Taj from the corrupt child she helped to raise.
That's Rintrah in the movie, my guy
What?? That's literally Rintrah, they look nothing alike and Bova would have absolutely no reason to be at the temple, you know, the same temple where Rintrah lives...? Wtf are you on about lol
what movie did this scenes taken from ?
I think most of it was from Agents of Shield, Wandavision, and DrStrange2.
Please make video on book of cagliostro and book of vishanti
ah yes the book on Eldrich magic and the book of Order Magic both in the comics are Dr strange's patrons whom he like other Sorcerer Supremes dating all the way back to Agamoto have served to keep earth out of Dormammu's hands
Does the US government have a copy of the dark hold?
No
Wanda wasn’t defeated by America but by herself
Wanda is the queen of DARKHOLD
agent of shield is now cannon due to multiverse of madness
1. That's not how you spell canon.
2. No, it's canon because it was confirmed to be canon, and has been referenced by other canon television shows and canon Marvel Studios tie-in materials. Not to mention, it is an officially produced material that sets itself in the MCU, so it should automatically be canon until stated otherwise or contradicted, neither of which have happened with any authority.
You've been misled by the Internet which distorted words and lied to you.
@@probot6515 it has been contradicted. In season 6 Piper references a time where male piper(always forget his name) got super drunk in 2018. That means AoS season 6 takes place after 2018. 2018 is the year of the blip. They never mention half of all life suddenly disappearing into dust in the show. So maybe it's an alternate timeline where instead of the blip all the Agents of Shield stuff happened. They did do a bunch of time travel shenanigans in season 5 so I think altered timeline is the best fan theory for canonocity. Or piper doesn't know years 🤷♂️
@@probot6515 it's canon but AoS didn't take place in 616 universe.
@@Tenshikichi1 It does take place in that universe. It literally sets itself in that reality. All 7 seasons take place in the MCU. The only times they're not is the 2091 scenes in S5 and the Alternate Timeline throughout S7.
It's like you don't understand. Even ignoring the fact Kevin Feige confirmed it was canon, the fact that Daredevil is undeniably canon makes Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. canon because all Marvel Television shows are interconnected. A Judas Bullet from Luke Cage literally shows up!
Okay, let's break it down. Netflix connects to Cloak & Dagger connects to Runaways connects to Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
@@zaferc2743 Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S5 occurs because of Avengers: Infinity War. The events of that film are referenced heavily from 5x19 to 5x22. The final scenes of S5 take place directly before the snap.
If Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S6-7 were not in the main timeline, the Earth would be destroyed in 2018. There is no work around.
In Avengers: Endgame, we see that society functions after the snap. People still go to restaurants, have jobs, and play video games. In WandaVision, we see hospitals are operational.
Captain America says that people have moved on from the snap. We can see that only a few people are still going to group therapy.
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S7 was intended to have a reference to the snap, with it being explained that the Quantum Realm could theoretically allow someone to survive the snap.
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S6 didn't see much from the civilian point of view, and S.H.I.E.L.D. were preoccupied dealing with Sarge, Izel and the Shrike invasion.
It is more unlikely that most of Peter's classmates died from the snap, as well as the original Avengers surviving the snap while the newer movie characters don't, than the cast of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. surviving, but those happened as well. It being unlikely doesn't make it impossible. It's simply plot convenience.
We only see a very small amount of these characters' lives on screen. Who's to say they don't reference the snap constantly between scenes? They might be referencing it every episode and we just didn't see it.
Agatha probably walked into shield and took the darkhold.
Unless my VPN can automatically skip over creator made ads ln TH-cam videos than I don't want it lol
It's interesting but how Marvel denies non Disney+ shows being canon. Yet the Dark Dimension and Darkhold connect the continues of everything back to the movies. Agent Carter, AoS, Cloak & Dagger, and Runaways deal with the Dark Dimension. The only show that doesn't connect is Helstrom.
Why is the latest darkhold version written in Sanskrit?
is it me or the darkhold written in Sanskrit
check at 5:13
I think it's enochian but it's very hard to tell due to the blood all over the pages.
the book is written in Demonic (in the marvel universe) and only a few can even read it specifically those learned in the arcane ways such as the sorcerers of Shangri la in the comics and Kamar-Taj in the MCU as well as the witches
I wish they referenced agents of shield more in mcu
Well it isn’t canon so it wouldn’t make sense
Even moreso with the reveal that Coulson is the one who called the Avengers to attack the Hydra compound at the beginning of Age of Ultron. They know he's alive!!!
@@kieransenra5996 Wait since when??
@@RacingSnails64 they know according to the show, but the movies never acknowledge that.
Coulson and Mack are suppose to be the director of SHIELD at one point but in the movies we always see Hill and Fury as if they are the leaders of the org.
Lady Sif was suppose to tell Thor about Coulson, she disappeared from the movies.
The only instance were it appears that the movies take the show into account is Age of Ultron with the Hellicarrier thing, but Fury never directly mention Coulson so they can always say he got it from another person/org.
The show started to diverge more and more from the MCU since S3
@@kieransenra5996 It is canon, you've just been misled. It actually has been referenced by Marvel Studios projects serveral times. Recently, the computer screen props in Avengers: Endgame had Daniel Whitehall from Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. on them, just offscreen.
Do video on Quake
If darkhold was in Ghost Rider’s grasp and Agatha gained it, then it means Agatha Harkness fought and defeated ghost rider lmao
Pretty sure ghost rider just put it somewhere in the dark dimension
@ agatha did manage to get the darkhold before wandavision, i think ghost rider and agatha harkness were in different universes so they had different darkholds i think
10:46 agatha was not amped by the knowledge of the darkhold and the darkhold is not an amp its just a book with knowledge that can corrupt u because if that counts as an amp then reading a normal book also counts as an amp and agatha only lost to wanda because wanda cheated💀
This is so insanely wrong I’m not even going to finish this sent-
How much common sense are you missing?
@@KeyIssues its not but whatever makes u happy!
@@ThanosDestroyeryearsago none
@@ThanosDestroyeryearsago agatha is amped by the witches magic not the darkholds knowledge SINCE darkhold itself is a book that gives u knowledge not power
Ultimately defeated wanda 🤣🤣🤣😂😂
Wanda isn't dreamwalking to earth 838 when someone stabbed the darkhold
Yes she is-
Nice
there’s just more than one and anyone could have gone to wundagore and made two or three books or the books shape shift
Pls do how strong is Wanda and strange in Mom
In MoM (cool abbreviation) Wanda was powerful enough to beat an army of sorcerers just through adept use of her powers. She also managed to kill Professor X one of the most powerful telepaths in existence just by teleporting into her own mind and snapping his neck.
@@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective Thanks 🤩
@@greatminikwu9089 No worries bud.
@@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective Wanda is strong enough to destroy the witches??
that's a wrong argument lol the right one is wanda is too strong just a little witch in Taj's room...
I believe agents of shield isn't Canon because I think there's a very high chance they're going to introduce Johnny Blaze as the main ghost rider, I loved the show but I just don't believe it's canon, i think anything that is on disney+ but not on the chronological order section isn't canon
I mean it is canon because they already introduced Johnny Blaze and retained it's timeline continuity all the way up until Captain Marvel. However, after Agents of Shield season 6 and 7 I believe they created a new timeline so Johnny Blaze can still show up.
@@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective Blaze showed up in season 4 and isn't ghost rider during season 4, so unless they're bringing in a multiversal variant as the main Blaze then they can't have a Blaze Ghost Rider in the future of the MCU and still retain that AOS is Canon I think it's more likely that alot of what happens in AOS happens in 616 but it's a different time line so they can pick and choose what to keep canon whil bringing in any characters from Agents of Shield they want that otherwise wouldn't be available to show
they decanonized it when they started doing their own thing though the canonisity is still debated because some are just arguing its a different timeline/universe
Klatuu Verrata Nikto!
2 minute commercial at the very beginning this of the video. Even though other channels do it at the end of their video.
Darkforce dimension technically
Doesn’t the darkhold amplify the user’s power???
Nope, it's a book of dark magic it doesn't really "amplify" powers but rather gives access to dark and forbidden witchcraft that is likely considered occult. For example Aida didn't have any magical power prior to reading the book but she still managed to use it's magic to give herself a human vessal.
it brings out latent power to its maximum potential
@@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective the darkhold actually brings out latent power to its maximum potential but no, it does not amplify magic and the reason for it bringing out the latent power to the maximum potentual is specifically because once you fall to its corruption it instructs you to draw out your full power and dark magic is by its very nature less restrained compared to other magics which is why Agatha's "purple" was so powerful even before sucking up the magics of other witches.
in a nutshell it shows you how to unlock your full potential and teaches magics that by nature cannot be restrained or limited because Kathan didn't want to teach magic through the darkhold magics that could be restrained or limited
@@fangslore9988 That’s really cool to know and actually explains a lot of its shenanigans in Agents of Shield as well. Specifically Eli’s powers and Aida’s.
@@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective Agents of Shield are not canon sadly however it revealed that Agatha was too powerful and too much a risk for her motther's coven and it showed her how to absorb magic (incidentally absorbing magic was originally Doctor Strange's unique ability in the comics, he could absorb someone's magic or absorb and redirect their magic against the caster though he was not able to do this on divine entities like Dormammu or Mephisto
There should be only one darkhold
nobody defeated Wanda. She just realized she was wrong. She uncorrupted herself.
3:53
Agents of Shield is not canon
Bro darkhold iron man is disturbing
My problem with saying the Darkhold in AofS is the same as the one in MCU is that the books don't appear to follow the same rules.
People can say that the cover changed and that's what makes it different but I think the real problem is that the content of the book is different.
In AofS they gave the book the ability to show it's info in the prime language of the reader but the one in Wandavision doesn't look like it has te ability cause when Agatha is flipping the pages you only see symbols from a different language than english (not the abc alfabet) and big pictures.
Talking about pictures, the AofS DH had images but primarily showed text, the Wandavision one showed drawings that cover a good part of the page.
In the inside looks like 2 different books
Also there's the fact that Agatha was attacked by her coven cause she learnt magic she wasn't suppose to, if that magic was from the Darkhold, in theory she has it since 1600 contradicting AofS timeline.
Also the thing about Morgana findiing the DH after GR left in DD was from an interview or something? Cause I remember the show acting as if she always had the book and wasn't recent, but maybe I'm remembering that bad
It is definitely a retcon in design and functionality. It is the case where you have to picture that the AoS book always looked like the one in WV. Or they are two different books (both copies of the Wundagore Mountain transcripts). But we have an official book called Guidebook to the Marvel Cinematic Universe: Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. S4 and it established that Darkhold as the MCU one.
@@AngelGonzalez-kl5hz but that guidebook came before or after Wandavision ?
@@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu before, obviously. But canon doesn't expire. So Idk what is your point.
@@AngelGonzalez-kl5hz tell that to the "MCU is earth 199999" canon when literally all MCU proyects says is ETH 616.
Tell that to Wong being dusted by the snap but in No Way Home they said he is the Sorcerer Supreme because he survived it.
Tell that to a lot comments from directors and writters of Endgame about that movie that contradicts themselves or change what they say
@@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu In the Comics Multiverse, it is Earth-19999, to the MCU itself it is Earth-616, just like ItSV is 616, and more.
It was never said whether Wong was dusted or not on screen. Off screen material like statements are retconned and contradcited, but the shows status in the MCU are on-screen proof.
Comic universe is far superior
Sup
Wouldn't The MCU Thanos be aware of the Darkhold & would have tried to get it ?
No hes a universal threat hes not worried bout a book
Why? What does this book have to do with his quest of erasing half of all life in the universe?
No, because at the point of which Thanos arrived on earth, the book had already been taken by Ghost Rider. Avengers Endgame takes place during AOS's 5th season.
@@justsomeone1555 no, darkhold only adds dark magic and knowledge, while Thanos doesn't have chaos magic, it's different from scarlet witch, who has chaos magic true power, where with chaos magic, Scarlet Witch becomes high level outversal and her reality manipulation is Omniverse Level
@@Cecilioni261 what are you even talking about?
Hi
Amerika Chavez can nothing defeat scarlet witch
The Darkhold makes no sense in the mcu
Its not supposed to?
@@cacapoopoo489 but it did in the comics lol
@@JJ91939 not even
In the comics it literally turned its users into demons by reading 3 words💀 (Darkhold #1)
The book is alive like the one ring and just has OP cursed ideas inside of it
@@TheTurbanator123 that made me have the idea that the book has similar sentience to doctor strange’s cloak
You’re using an abc show to to explain mcu lore??
There's one thing that's really important to keep in mind: Agents of S.H.I.EL.D is not canon.
So that means that the laser printed physics book and the dark magic book are not the same Darkhold.
Wrong. The end. Also, to assume AOS isn't canon would stupidly undermine Age of Ultron and create so many plotholes after that movie. You should probably just accept it. AOS is canon up until it's 6 and 7th season. Hell they even name dropped Thanos.
@@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective how does them name dropping things make them canon? Agents of shield is not cannon and this has foot that made the video is lying 😂
@@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective that doesn't make any sense, the 6th and 7th season of AoS is very clearly in the same canon as the first 5 seasons, also Age of Ultron is the only project that connects to AoS, but the connection is vague so it could easily be disconnected from the show if Feige wanted it, every other connection is one way AoS referencing the movies, but considering Feige hated the Marvel Television side of the MCU, I think he'll most likely want to separate the shows from the MCU, especially after introducing the Multiverse and variants, it means he can pick and choose certain moments to be canon to keep in the lore while telling stories and introducing characters he wouldn't be able to if they were canon
@@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective I keep AoS in my personal canon because i like the show so much but the Age of Ultron is really not the slam dunk I see so many people trying to use it as. If Agents of Shield had decided not to set up Theta protocol, that doesn't mean the helicarrier would have been cut from Age of Ultron. The writers of AoS said Joss was writing Age of Ultron when Season 1 of AoS was in production; they just took the chance to integrate and ran with it. This is the easiest way to put it: The helicarrier does NOT appear in Age of Ultron because it was set up in Agents of Shield. The helicarrier is set up in Agents of Shield BECAUSE it appears in Age of Ultron.
@@anthonysmurthwaite6258 He's mixing up canon and on the timeline. Season 7 of AoS establishes that, at some point, the team went off what is now known as the Sacred Timeline. While Season 7 ends with them returning to that timeline, I still don't know if I believe that considering, that time, they use the same method as in Endgame. So it's up in the air. Point is, when people bring up AoS Seasons 6 and 7 not being 'canon', it's because they don't occur on the sacred timeline
Non canon
agreed agents of shield isn't canon
@@fangslore9988let’s just say it’s one of the countless universes in the multiverse. Their dark hold was also destroyed bc of Wanda
@@lordviksta i would say multiple darkholds were destroyed specifically those existing in universes that branch off from the sacred time line
Well, guys, let secret invasion, thor 4 and she-hulk be canon for you😘