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- We are a lucky bunch here at AutoEV. We do get our hands on some very fancy new electric vehicles. Yet, for all we love the Porsche Taycan, Jaguar I-Pace and all the other expensive, fast and luxurious new EVs, we have to be realistic. And in this week's twin test, we get VERY realistic. In times when the cost of living and energy prices continue to rise, we find out what the best way is to spend £30,000 on a do-it-all family EV. Do you opt for one of the best value for money new cars on the market, the excellent MG ZS, or do you go down the secondhand route and pick up a used version of one of our all-time greats, the Kia eNiro? Bryan goes all sensible this week in the latest "New v's Used" episode, all in the name of down-to-earth consumerism.
We would also like to apologise about the sound quality in the Practicality section when discussing the rear seats. We had some technical difficulties that we didn't realise until it was too late. Thanks in advance for your understanding.
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0:00 - Introduction
01:48 - Titles
01:55 - Meet the cars
04:13 - Styling
09:35 - Practicality
14:29 - Interior
27:37 - Usability
30:10 - Performance & Handling
45:23 - Pricing
48:52 - Competition
49:57 - Pros & Cons
51:11 - Summary
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Loving the comparison videos matey !
Thank you for this very helpful video! I juste needed it to compare these 2 !
Great comparison, very informative
Just bought my MG ZS EV MY22. Standard range Essence. Used….best of both worlds…
Love the honesty, also the tec detail. Keep it up mate. Joe Dublin
I’ve watched carwow, whatcar and all the others about the mg zs ev. This has been the most balanced, enjoyable and informative vid by a country mile. Keep it up, cheers.
Thanks so much for your comprehensive response to these events.
You have made my mind up and am going to order an MG ZS EV Trophy connect. Best value for money out there. Hope the new MG 4 doesn't make me change my mind????
Thanks for the review. I would opt for the SR MG as it has a lithium phosphate battery unlike the LR MG and Niro and thus the battery may last 2 to 3 times longer (less battery degregation). The MG also has VtL which may be handy in a power outage.
We chose the MG trophy long range which was the game changer for us as well as the ability to fit a tow bar (for bicycles) and the useful roof bars. the Power to load is a also useful feature. a good pratical affordable EV with a sensible range. the surround cameras and 360 top view is great. I believe a USB stick can also be fitted to record the cameras as a dashcam?
If you've ever owned and run a Kia it's a no brainer. Stress free motoring, charging infrastructure apart. Grants now gone too make the used market even stronger.
Thank you for this comparison, as always a proper review done right. I love your need to explain yourself (again) to the MG fan club 😉. Being a MG5 LR owner myself, I'm happy that I got it with the government grant (£1.5k) which has since stopped (after this video was published). Taking this change into account the ZS EV now costs £1.5k more than stated. Shame the government is sending out the wrong message for EV adoption, let's see if the redirecting of funds into charging infrastructure makes a big difference in the real world. I'd like to see more than 2 Gridserve per motorway services as people don't want to queue. I agree with all your balanced and constructive reviews, please keep it going - you have a subscriber for life 😇
Very good job from one of the best!
👍👍 very good and very pertinent with some MG high trim level availability being iffy.
Great video mate 👌
Thanks 👍
First class review as all your videos
Honest review & first side by side comparison b/w these two EVs in English. I ordered the long range zs for the bells & whistles , price & 7 years warranty. Fingers crossed 🤞
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Its very much appreciated.
Looks like the back of the driver’s seat on the ZS does adjust for rake, as any driver’s seat should. There is a button arrangement on the right hand side of the squab, like on the VW Tiguan. Page 110 of the online manual illustrates it.
It’s not the rake adjustment of the backrest (I know that adjusts) but the tilt of the squab cushion it doesn’t have.
When do the brake lights activate on different regen levels in each car? Important when giving the car behind some warning about slowing down..
Have I heard this right? MG ZS EV - a £30k+ car - and you can't even recline the driver's seat?! It's a great all-rounder, absolutely no doubt. But simple stuff like that really kills it for me. But then I am 6'3 so maybe a bit atypical. Great review.
Hi Guys like the video very much, just one observation I would make. I bought my Gen 1 car last sept (2021)brand new and after various French govt and dealer gifts it ended up costing me 15,500€ yes, that's about £13,025 !!!!
Look the car, she gets better and better. Last night I had her on charge overnight and this morning she showed 350 kms (approx 219 miles) with drive mode "Eco", kers 3 and hvac off.
BTW what tyre pressures are you running in the MG ? I used to run at 2.3 bar all round until I saw someone suggesting 2.8 bar. After the change of pressure I find it feels more solid, more competent.
Good and fair review...but still no mention that the MG has V2L..(not available on the E-Niro only the new Nero EV)..not a big deal for some but to me will be very handy for doing all the lawn mowing/power washing the drive etc (and charging my RC model batteries while down at the field) using the car which has been charged on cheap rate elec on Octopus Go :)
Also full 360 cam on the MG and the full pano roof (as shown in the vid ) is a big plus for me.
Also if going for a 4 year old 4+ spec Niro you will be buying as 2nd owner at best and only getting 3 year remaining warranty instead of the full 7 years with a new MG.
Of course a used Niro would be available immediately instead of a long wait for an MG...or any new EV... (I know new orders are suspended of the LR model till existing orders are fulfilled...not sure on the SR)...I ordered my LR in Dec last year (and sold my Mk1 which I loved as got a great price for it ) ...at the time March was the date of delivery of new one but now it's back to Sept as the current ETA....never mind the exercise must be doing me some good :)
I think, both (2022) have V2L, Nero with about 3 kWh and the MG with 2,5 kWh!
What about the 360 camera? MG ZS EV Trophy (2022+) comes with 360 Camera (all round view when slowly driving or reversing), fairly clear view. (Not many EV-SUVs have these in 2023).
I was firmly in the MG camp and ordered a new one. However its starting to become clear that MG have over sold it and now have a huge potentially undeliverable backlog of orders. I've started looking at used as I suspect MG may find a way to cancel or change (put the price up!) my order.
Purely personally. I'd take the Kia. It's a known quantity with a solid reputation. Residuals a few years down the line are likely to be better too with the eNiro. It's worth mentioning that it is possible to get the MG ZS EV with a dark grey/black coloured grille, which I think looks a little better........ Both cars have inoffensive, easy on the eye styling, which helps their appeal for many.
The blue MG looks great. Who wants a boring grey car
It's worth noting that the eNiro is more efficient in terms of miles per kw/h. I've got an MG ZS LR, which has averaged 3.1mls/kwh over 6000 miles (Dec - present) where as a colleague at work has an eNiro 4+ which has achieved more like 3.5-3.7 mls/kWh. We both tend to do mainly motorway miles. With electricity prices the way they are it could factor into people's decision making process. Personally I went with the ZS as at the time it was significantly cheaper than the eNiro as the government grant was still in place and dealers were offering finance contributions, basically it meant I could pick up the Trophy LR for slightly less than the SR is now. It's quite a different proposition now as you rightly point out and I'm not sure I'd make the same decision.
You've had your Trophy LR since Dec?....I ordered mine in Dec and its not due till Sept?...did you buy a demo?...you are very lucky :)
@@TomsManShed perhaps they have the older version of the vehicle, not the new facelifted model, which is definitely different in various ways.
@@GaffaTV No, I very much have the mk2.
Do you get a heated steering wheel in the MG?
Thanks for the video. I think your mic was too loud going into the unit so it was automatically cutting out on loud noises. Perhaps turn the transmitter down and the receiver up but purely a guess.
That’s exactly what the issue was, and so I turned it down in the latter half of the video. I didn’t realise they cut out automatically though. Thank you for bringing that to my attention. And thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.
Interesting. Overall before watching this I would have been leaning more towards the MG. But with the Kia with the addition of a proper driving binnacle and proper button controls rather than tough screen nonsense. I would go for the Kia I think. Still really like the MG. Especially for looks
very good would be great to see the new niro against the mg
This is a great comparison, very useful for deciding what to buy. However, there is a mistake as he says he is reviewing the MG trophy but then also says it is not the highest trim. I have the MG ZS Ev Essence, which is the middle of the range, with the 51kw battery and it does not have connectivity in the back, or an arm rest in the back, it is in the long range model that has those extras.
In the UK at the time of the test, the ZS only comes in two trim levels - the SE and the Trophy (which came with two battery options). It was the Trophy Long Range that was in the test.
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment, and I’m glad you enjoyed the review.
Thank you for a good review, personally I would go for the MG as it will have the longer warranty and it’s a bit more up to date and has a few more features but I do see you your argument too 😊 keep up the good reviews, I do enjoy them
Thank you for watching and taking the time to send us your thoughts. And, thank you for continuing to support us. Hopefully you will enjoy the reviews we have coming up!
Both kia and MG are 7 years and 10 years for the battery
@@mharro88 yes, but keep in mind if you are buying a used Kia that is 1 or 2 years old, you will only benefit from the balance of the warranty not the full term from new. Then the MGs will be longer.
@@AutoEV that would be the same for any car buying it second hand?
@@mharro88 correct, but the point is, we are comparing a new MG with a used Kia. So the MG will have the longer warranty period of the two cars in the video.
Another great video
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
I have 2 mg ev's and prefer them to the Tesla Model X which was far too big for Scottish roads. I tried a Kia eNiro and was not impressed. Nowhere near as comfortable as the MG. The MG is easier to charge now with the new central and accessible charge point.
Awesome video, but please fix your mic :)
I've never heard of a car you can't recline the drivers seat. What about those naps on long journeys whilst charging 👀
The review made a lot of sense both as bland as each other but money wise it is a hard to choose the service intervals would persuade me .Look forward to the next comparison video
What should we feature do you think?
I got the e nero 64kw 3 it does not charge at 100kw its 77kw and it cold gates so in uk at 15c its only 50kw max only see 77kw at 22c
All so mine is 7 kw put vith ver 4 its 11 kw
This why my next car will be mg
Ev data base 94kw rapid 7kw ac with the 72kw batery for the mg
I'd quite like to see what parking is like in these cars: what's the visibility like, cameras any good, sensors, etc? Not sexy, but useful info..
As an Eniro owner for 2 yrs I can say parking is a doddle in it & it's the only car I've seen where u can fit an aftermarket small brush to the rear wiper that cleans the reverse camera. I had an MY lately & had to get out & wipe the camera before reversing which left me really appreciating the Niro. Hope this helps.
Test drove the MG ZS EV a few days ago and it was an instant hate due to the restricted driver seat and steering wheel adjustment. Best car so far is the Ioniq 5 but the prices have shot up!
I would go for MG.
Great car, isn't it? Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
If you could order one, MG have just stopped taken orders for the rest of the year in the UK
Yes, we heard about this. Supply is an issue for many new cars at the moment. Which is why the used alternatives are an important review for us.
I just brought the MG Trophy 73kw for £30495 Brand new! £500 quid more. Bargin I guess..
Would certainly seem so! Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.
Me too, same price as me! The price we paid seems like a mega good deal when looking at what’s out there now
@@G-ManReviews Yeah it does, and the new Trophy is £34495 and it will not have a panoramic roof.
@@mackay250 just read they are taking the sunroof out, our model should really hold its value!
@robert mackay when did you buy and how many pounds off RRP was that? I just placed a 99£ refundable deposit to secure one that’s due in September or October and need to check but it’s more than that today unless yours is the standard range model?
We have both a used Kia eNiro 4+ and a new MG ZS EV. We love both of them :)
Wow! So you are living like we did for a week with the two cars? They are very evenly matched, aren't they? Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
@@AutoEV Yes, not a lot to choose between them really. Our MG is the new facelift model with the cheapest trim level and the smaller battery vs top end trim on the Kia. But also it cost £25k vs £40k for the Kia 2 years back.
@@AutoEV Unfortunately both of these lovely cars are way above my price range . I would love to be able to afford a Kia ENiro 😉. I'm hoping the prices will come down rapidly as they get older and more common on our roads. It will then be about how much usable life is left in there batteries by that time. If I was to design an electrica vehicle I would definitely fit a socket for putting the kettle on for a Cuppa when out in the countryside.😉😊👍👍👍
I have the 2022 ZS, and my girlfriends mother has the 2020 Niro Hybrid. I love the MG drivetrain, its quiet, quick acceleration etc. The only things I like better in the Kia is the parking sensor integration and visualisation (no front or side sensors on the ZS - come on MG! - and the automatic line centering is better on the Kia. I have reached around 1.7kwh/10km on highway when driving around 90-100km/h, so it is really efficient for its profile. I love both cars, but would definitely chose the MG before the older Kia. The new 2023 Niro ev however....
I know the e-Niro has a towing capacity of around 350kg. What about the MG?
500kg on the new MG
Any close competition to MG if I want a non made in China EV?
Nope. Cupra Born maybe
A great review, thanks. I've always raved about MG, they have shaken the market, and are bringing out amazing cars, take a look at the MG4. That said I am worried about China's inaction regarding Ruzzia's invasion of Ukraine, and the looming invasion or blockade of Taiwan. If China wants to sell to the West, they need to be democratic. Too be honest, I don't think they are but manage to enjoy the best of both worlds.
If it's too bland, get the red one :)
it's a pretty nice EV, the Zs. only minus to me is the wheel arches/stance/wheelbase combination.
it needs something better.
albeit the eNiro is a great EV it's getting boring.
You are so right. We are about to buy a ZS EV, but I’ll buy bigger wheels for it. I think 18” with bigger tires too.
I'd drive it if I still had my licence
When I test drove the MG in August last year before deciding to purchase the Niro I found that with the sunroof shut but the internal roof panel slid back the road noise in the cabin was quite loud. The two other factors that put me off the MG were the ride, which I felt was less luxurious than the Kia and the location of the instruments which seemed far less intuitive than the Kia. Even with a $35000NZ (£17k) price difference on new vehicles I felt that the Kia was the vehicle to choose, (mind you Kia were willing to offer considerably more on the Ioniq that we were trading in than MG which reduced the difference somewhat).
Given the choice between a new MG and a used Kia again I would choose the Kia. I haven't regretted my purchase.
Did you even drive the new mg EV? It's not available in NZ. It's completely different to the first gen. The Niro definitely not worth 30 k more lol
@@mharro88 I drove the model that was available in July 2021.
@@iallso1 The newer model MG ZS, which is reviewed here, was first avilable in September 2021.
The predecessor, one you are talking about, is a vastly different car.
@@iallso1 Well thats completely different and considerably less refined than this one in the review
Obviously I drove the previous model, I'm not sure if the new model is available in NZ even now. The new model may be an improvement on the previous one but I would need to to drive it to give an accurate assessment.
The mg is a no brainer.
The eNiro is a great car but i would go for the newer MG if i had to buy now you never know what a second hand car went through in the 3-4 years before getting to you
New cars aren't problem free
Would always buy the ZS EV again, but rather new so I get all the government incentives 😉😎😊
Wouldn't want to ever have a show-off car and really like the design better than most other electric cars 😎😎😊😊
Gosh the clipping on the mic.
The only way to get myself a new Kia eNiro is to stretch my budget enormously. Sure the eNiro or Hyundai Kona electric are better or shall I say way better but they cost a lot more! A used one probably makes sense if SOH is above 95%! Buying used EVs with low asking price risk a lower battery SOH! You're probably better buying brand new, perhaps.
As for this video, what is the battery SOH of this 2nd hand eNiro?! If it costs that much, wouldn't that car have a huge degradation of SOH?!
If MG weren’t such a disaster for delivery, I’d choose the MG ZS new in a heartbeat, I actually prefer the Kia E. Soul to drive than the Niro but the E Soul is just so ugly
I don’t understand why reviews waste time talking about appearance which can be evaluated in seconds.
I'm sorry but I still can't understand why a professional car journalist can have body language which justice dishes the car in question MG ZS EV , I have watched every carveiw you have produced ,when you review a car that is above 45 thousand pounds it's like listening to and watching a different person , I hope you and your team don't find this offensive as I find your channel excellent.
Your knowledge of cars is unbelievable, you will remember when VAG took over skoda, you will remember what their cars looked like not very interesting, but with the help of bigger companies they grew and grew into one of the best brands in the world.
MG will grow into an amazing company without the help of VAG that's my opinion.
Oh I think you missed out a very important factor with the MG ZS EV SR is that the battery is LFP and has different running features!
Hello Neil. First of all, thank you for watching and taking the time to send a comment in. Every view, and every comment is thoroughly appreciated. I'm sorry if you feel that I adopt a different persona when reviewing different cars, I personally don't think I do, well at least try not to. In terms of the car's cost, this isn't a factor to me, and my enthusiasm for something like the MINI Electric, Fiat 500 and Honda e (not to mention the excellent Skoda Citigo eiV I reviewed a couple of years ago) is far greater than for the liek of Audi's e-tron which I find tediously inadequate, I think comes across.
Taking MG as a starting base, I already think they are an excellent car company, and the ZS is proof of that. No, it isn't an excitng car to look at, nor is it particularly exciting to drive, but what it is is a car that does the job it was designed to do very well. The MG 5 is another point in case, and with the facelift that is about to arrive, it is starting to address the styling issues that I said that it had in previous guise. The new MG 4 hatch looks amazing, and as an ex MG owner (and salesman), I am very much looking forward to their new EV sportscar.
So, again, if I have come across in a different way, you have my word it has nothing to do with how expensive or not a car is. I review every car on the basis of what it is designed to do, and whether or not it meets that criteria (hence my criticism of the Tesla Model Y).
Thank you again for watching, taking the time to comment, and I hope you continue to enjoy AutoEV.
Bryan
‘Pay attention next time’, you sure know how to reach to more subscribers 😂
For me the Niro is better in all aspects
Get either - as long as you don´t get a Hyundai KONA! Auxiliary battery continually let´s us down, even after changing to a new one. Not what you expect from a new car!
Please don’t buy the MG new or at least don’t pay anywhere near the original RRP. I did and boy do I regret it not least as I lost £17k on it when I sold it a year later, plus the MG service experience is appalling. A shame because despite some slight quality he issues the car itself was pretty good.
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You need jeans with lycra
Magnolia paint 😆
AUTO Ev must have a sponsorship deal with MG as they delete my comments on the problems with modern MGs and rust
@interceptor1986 no-one has deleted any of your comments! We don't delete anyones comments unless they are offensive, and stating a fact that like you have isn't offensive. And no, we don't have any sponsorship deal with MG, or anyone else for that matter. We are independent and self-funded......its why we don't have any money.
No extra guys to trash your review so I assume it's worth watching
It's transport
Don't be Nasty, some people might like to watch it
@@thevanchung7568 English is not your first language I see. However it's good that you are trying.
conclusion: used MG ?
This video is pointless. You are comparing two NEW cars. either source an old Kia, or do not do the comparison video. giving verbal caveats, does not do it.
Buy an MG,the quickes wat to loose money
To be honest with yourself....if Im being honest with you .....repeated many m ag times. Only negative of this review
Feedback from me (feel free to ignore): 55mins is too long. I won't be watching this video
Thank you for the comment. We made the decision a little while back to concentrate on longer videos that are more comprehensive than some of the others that don’t cover the details we do. We know that will put some people off (as you have indicated, and that’s fine) but for prospective buyers, we want to cover as much detail as we can. Our core audience does seem to be the people who are looking to buy and they want this level of detail. Yes, it loses us some views, but that’s fine as being this detailed is what makes AutoEV that little bit different to the rest.
And in fairness, there are chapters so you can skip the bits you don’t like……(unless the bit you don’t like is me, then you’re a bit stuck!)
Thanks again for your comment. They are all appreciated.
Glorified expensive Milk float EVs are not the future don't waste your time and money.
Yet you’ve wasted your time watching a TH-cam channel dedicated to them……odd.
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment though.