Detroit 3-53T First Start Cold Start
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ย. 2024
- First start of my 3-53T after a total overhaul. Engine temp was 4.5C and 40F with an outside temp of -3C or 26F. Quick runup to check for leaks etc, before I paint it and install it on my compressor. Happy Detroit.:)
As an old DD buff myself, it sounds great! They are really cool to hear them on some of the old tractors pulling at antique & classic tractor pulls. For those asking about turbos, they had a gear driven blower, and later silver series had turbos added. I have seen one in a Chevy 2500 pickup in Pa.
This ones an N engine I converted with T internals. It's got a BorgWarner K27 turbo on it and I'll be working on finishing the project in the new year.:) I daily drive a 2009 Fod F350 with a SIlver 4-53T and Ford 5R110 trans, a really nice platform.:)
I don't know who was more pleased, you or me. Great to hear it come to life! That's a great feeling. Wasn't a bit scared to start running. Still following all your videos. Kind thanks again for all the effort you put into it all.
Thanks and you're welcome.:) Can't wait to get this compressor going to hear the 353T sing.:) Thanks for watching.
@@detroitgarage9430 That will be a happy compressor. It's truly a beastie looking machine. After following you on your rebuilds, without any deviation, I touched off my 4-53 tonight. I was frankly shocked when it came alive after about only 5 revolutions! What blissful music! You know what I mean. I have a new 24v starter and it spun up so fast that the motor didn't know if it was running or not! Thank you again ever so much for your guidance and taking time to answer my questions. I still have three more to rebuild. Now I have much more confidence that if I do them the same way, as you have, they will be just fine. In my book, you are the Detroit Guru!
You brought tears to my eyes...I guess it was because ours will start up someday, I will probably be so emotional when it starts up for the first time I won't be able to control myself...
It's certainly one of the best feelings, I guess that's what keeps me building these engines.:) You'll have it running soon, just keep plugging working away at it.:) Thanks for watching.:)
Great job ! From a few nuts an bolt start build up All the way through to start up ! Perfect thanks for filming this
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.:) Now to fit it to paint and fit it to the compressor.:) Thanks for watching.:)
Running smooth, could not see the oil getting to the rockers! I guess you were watching it!
Nice feeling to see and hear an engine coming to life after rebuild. Jimmys have their unique way to thank you..screaming......No need for testing with the Turbo?
Oil slowly started coming up and pooling around the valves. True very nice to see another one alive.:) The turbo is not required to test run the engine with no load, next run will be with the turbo on connected to the compressor. Thanks for watching.:)
Really sounds good!!!!!! Thanks!
A big relief and now to fit it in it's new home.:) Thanks for watching.:)
40 F there, 40 C here... 😀. Sounded like one of those injectors is a bit unhappy, got better as it ran though.
True, should come good once it gets up to temp and has a load on it. I have five more on the shelf if it doesn't.:)
Spot on!👊🏻🇺🇸
Simple the best, I love Detroit diesel 3-53.
Im Brasil have any erection boat hice 27D by Aluminium Company off America with this beatiful engine. Thanks for your service. From Brasil.
Sorry I dont' speak english very well
Obrigado, com certeza é divertido trazê-los de volta à vida. :)
Congrats!
Thanks and thanks for watching.:)
Very nice.. A Gamma Goat 🐐
Is looking for her missing DD 353 . 🤠
What causes the blue smoke? Shouldn't the revs be up around 12 to 1500rs breaking in?
Lol, this was an industrial 353 that ran a belt pulley. The blue smoke is because the engine is still very cold. It will stop this once the engine is put under a load and worked. The revs should be kept under 1000 rpm for 10 minutes to check for leaks etc. Now that that has been completed it has to be worked hard at 80-90% load. I'll have it idling at about 1000 or so and full load at 2100.
Love your videos! Would you happen to have any of those covers that go over the cam and balance shaft on the back of the engine? Can I just make some from flat steel? Also need a blank cover for where the thermostat housing goes on the back of the head, and that cover to the lower left of the cam and balance shaft. I can also make them from steel plate but it would be nice to get them already made.
Thanks, I don't have any spares, but they are easy to make. I had to make the rear water outlet cover and a few other bits and pieces. If anyone would have them PC Industries might and Jonathan at Leid Diesel Services will for sure.:)
@@detroitgarage9430 thanks!
Yes!
Jimmies Alive.:)
Nice job
Thanks.:)
Great Job, Runs Great, You are a gifted Mechanic. Are you or were you a full time mechanic? How long have you been working on Detroits? Are you self taught or were you trained?
Thanks, I grew up in a shop working of equipment with my dad working on gas and diesels. I was never a mechanic, but basically did a full apprenticeship until I left home at 22.:) I had a 28 year carrier as an airline pilot and took early retirement four years ago. Now I just enjoy working on and swapping Detroits into trucks and equipment.:) Thanks for watching.:)
@@detroitgarage9430 Well fly on down in your jet and help us with our Detroit :)
@@doityourselfwithfixinitwit270 Lol, I wish.:) Maybe someday I'll win the lottery.:)
@@detroitgarage9430 I started working as a mechanic for my Dad also around 1970. He had an excavation company so we worked on Detroits, Cat, Cummings, International. I have owned the company since 1990 an still sometimes keep working as a mechanic. I really enjoy it, cheaper than therapy!
Sure barked to life really nice even at 40 degrees with the Turbo Trunk pistons. The 21:1 N pistons in the 2-53 for Allis should really start nice in the cold.
Sure started nice compared to the old 4-53T at the same temps.:) Happy Detroit.:)
@@detroitgarage9430 amazing the difference a fresh set of rings and liners that aren't pitted makes!
@@lukestrasser Very true.:)
Great skill level! Thanks for the video. I recently purchased a 353 and it appears to be stuck. it was under a shed. Any thing to look for other than the basic piston seizure?
Thanks.:) Yes, you can pull the airbox cover off and have a look and see if there is any or how much water. You could also have a look at the blower and confirm that's not seized, if it's loose there will be some back lash. What I've done in the past is pull the injectors and fill the cylinders up with acetone and oil mix. The pull the starter and bar over engine with a pry bar. If the engine isn't stuck too bad this will work, if not it's overhaul time.:)
@@detroitgarage9430 thank you very much for your time and help. Next few days I'll check these items. It was an engine that served duty on a crane. Hour meter shows around 950.80. engine looks decent. I was hoping this was the correct hours. Maybe it's not too bad of shape.
@@georgephillips6520 Nice find, hopefully it's not seized too bad and it will break free.:)
Mine was locked up and it turned out that water had gotten into the blower, froze inside one of the impellers, and broke it. Pulled the blower and it turns over just fine.
I wish gensets had an idle setting,
Mines governed around 13-1500 straight away, so it wakes up and immediately goes to preset high idle. Wish i could start it like this then set the high idle after 10-15 min warm up
That really shouldn't hurt them. On my 4-53T I start it and drive away after 30 seconds or so and within a minutes it's at 2000 rpms. In the winter it does have a block and oil pan heater that's on a timer. Engine is pre heated to 100f or so.:)
Need a air cleaner & muffler. It doesn’t have a turbo . Other than that it runs great. I had on on a portable water pump. 👨🌾
Nice, they’re a great engine.:). Thanks for watching.😀
P.S. I misunderstood what you were saying.:) Yes missing the air cleaner, muffler and turbo. Was just a quick test of the engine after a full rebuild. Will be dyno testing this engine in the new year with N45’s and a BW K27 turbo. After the break in is finished then finish up the compressor.:)
Look at how tiny those valve springs are! I guess when you aren't made to turn 6k+ rpm you don't have to worry about valve float eh?
They certainly are small.:) Can turn them up to about 4000 rpm max before they float.:) This one is governed at 2300.:)
@@detroitgarage9430 I know part of why they can't rev that high is the stroke, at least with the 71's I know it's a 5 inch stroke.. granted there's 5 inch stroke big blocks that turn 7500rpm but that's a full drag engine with aluminum rods and a super light flywheel/crank that probably won't last long.. but iron rods and crank with a massive flywheel couldn't handle that.. Though I would love to build a 6k rpm capable 8V71! (like I'll ever have the money to.. but it'd be cool)
@@jaratt85 use a 6 V51 T..at 3450 rpms, it sounds like a V-12 turning 7000 rpms - because the 2 stroke cycle fires once every revolution instead of once every 2 revolutions on a 4-cycle engine..
Do these have a break-in procedure and special break-in oil needed?
No break-in oil required, but do require a break in. For the dyno they have a procedure listed in the manual. For breaking in a vehicle, they recommend start and run for 5-10 minutes to check for leaks, then hit the road and run it hard for the first 100 miles to set the rings. No idling during this period, just run them hard. They recommend an 80% load factor for the break in period. I run them through the mountains and that works well.:)
Smooth as silk, just a query oil to overhead?
Thanks, yes just took a while for the oil to work it's way. Here's an update video on the engine. Project is on the back burner while I finish the Diamond T 4-53T project.th-cam.com/video/6jXozQ9Ytb8/w-d-xo.html
Superb 🏆🏆🏆🏆
Thanks and thanks for watching.:)
Mine I couldn't leave the valve cover off because it fills up with oil quickly..?? Is that a bad sign? Love that sounds though!!
No, as long as you have good oil pressure then all is good.:) My 4-53T is the same, too much oil as well, so the cover can't be off for very long.:)
@detroitgarage9430 thankyou! 😀
I want to drop one in my 1952 m37 army truck.
That would be the perfect engine for it.:)
Sound's like he might have to take it apart again,,,, and fix the rod that's nocking 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭👎👎👎👎👇👇👇👇😔😔😔😔😔😔😔🤐🤐🤐🤐🥺🥺🥺🥺😐😐😐😐🤔🤔🤔🤔😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
Lol, that's an injector.:) If you listen to the engine after it's run some that noise is gone. Thanks for watching.:)
Where is the TURBO ?????
Turbo is off until I fab an adapter for it. I'll mount the engine in the compressor first before I fab up the turbo. Making an air to air intercooler as well, so lot's of work to do before it's finished.:) Thanks for watching.:)
I wonder what trucks this would fit
It would fit in the Ford Ranger and similar trucks. Most use the M5R1 manual and have had good success.:) Thanks for watching.:)
Hi, friend! Please tell me, it is very interesting to know all small cars with a two-stroke diesel engine! Please tell me
I'm not aware of any small cars with 2-stroke diesels in them. Detroit made the 2-strokes for medium and heavy duty trucks. Some like myself swapped them into light duty pickups, but they were never sold from the factory this way. Only two stroke cars I'm aware of were some european 2-stroke gas cars, but not diesel.:) Thanks for watching.:)
@@detroitgarage9430 Thank you for your reply, greetings from Ukraine!
Yes, I would like some kind of medium-sized car with such an engine ....
Size +/- like Toyota Hilux...
I wonder how many years these cars were made?
In the 90s, Fords or gms were produced with two-stroke diesels?
@@СлепыеомбиРабыБоятсяЦаряДоДро Slava Ukraini.:) GM/Detroit 2-strokes were made until the early 80's and in the military are still being made to this day. The M113 has the 6V53T in them and many are now in Ukraine.:) As for the Toyota Hilix, a 353T could fit with some fab work. The 2-stroke gas cars were made in the 60's.
@@detroitgarage9430 Good morning for you!
Glory to Ukrainian heroes!!!
I didn’t even think that the M113 had a two-stroke diesel engine. Many thanks to you (the people of the USA) and all NATO countries for helping Ukraine! Your equipment saves our soldiers' lives!
As a mechanic of off-road vehicles, I really like the (not SUV) Subaru Leon, a full-fledged part-time all-wheel drive with a transfer case, there is a downshift, but the most interesting thing is that it has part-time on the contrary)) permanent front-wheel drive, rear-mounted manually. Cool car.
It would still have to install a two-stroke diesel engine with a volume of 2.5 liters in general, it would have turned out to be an ideal car.
Perfect for me of course :)
In general, I really want to someday assemble my detonation engine with a pressure in the cylinder of 60-70 bar. it has an estimated efficiency should be around 60% and very economical...))
The main thing is that the greater the pressure in the cylinder during the explosion, the longer the force driving the piston down is retained, right?!)) Well, the crankshaft axis must also be shifted away from the central axis of the cylinders! Under this condition, when the piston is at the top point and an explosion occurs, the force of the explosion will immediately be directed directly to cranking the crankshaft ....
(I always really didn’t like that in an internal combustion engine an explosion occurs at a very unfavorable moment (when the connecting rod is perpendicular to the crankshaft axis), while most of the explosion force turns not into rotation but into impact, which is not very good ....
Offsetting the crankshaft axis to the side will fix this problem very well.
In short, the internal combustion engine is a very unfinished thing, you can talk about it for a very long time ...)))
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Qantoz HP?
It's around 130HP and 300 FTLBS of torque, thanks for watching.:)
Is that a 3 cylinder?
Yes, I also have a 2, 4 and 6 cylinder 53 series.:)
How much to rebuild
Total with the head being rebuilt was $1500.00 USD.
What highway is this?
Hwy I15 and I90.
@@detroitgarage9430 In USA? I'm in Nampa, Idaho. Not so far away.
@@Tchristman100 Pretty close to Idaho falls, only 3.5 hrs.:) 10.5 hrs from Kelowna, BC where I live.:)
Kwantwz Hp??
130 HP and 325 FTLBS of torque. Thanks for watching.:)