Very thought-provoking program. Your discussion re-emphasizes my belief in the correct usage of words, which many people don't seem to care about. I might add this: if we read in between the lines of someone's speech, then we can arrive at his truth. I'll stop here. Great video!
Thanks so much for your comments! Words do indeed matter, along with how we use them. This is not a matter of being elitist or pedantic. Clear thought requires clear speech.
I just now was able to sit down and listen to this topic and whoa boy! Does this ever bring about more questions than answers involving not only philosophy but faith, and wokeness (as other people have kind of eluded to in other comments) and many other veins going off in all sorts of directions. I immediately thought, as you were talking, of two things...faith, in the fact that shooting the cat (hypothetically, of course!) brings about the fact (or theory) that some people would swear up and down that the cat was not alive based on the knowledge of what transpired as a result of faith. I could be completely speaking incorrectly here but that is what I was thinking. Faith meaning that these people believe in what happened completely without needing to prove the point, or open the box as it were. But, that might be getting off the primary subject and going in another direction. The other thing i was thinking was about an article i read about the protesters who just received 2 year prison sentences for throwing tomato soup on the priceless paintings and how Greenpeace had issued a statement saying that the actual throwing of the tomato soup was in fact an artistic expression in itself...and went on to describe how the tomato soup landed on the painting in a particular stroke, etc. So, in essence, one person might have seen it as a bad thing and another (in a strange, demented sort of way) as a good thing. Sorry for the long response, but that was just two of the many things that i was thinking as you were talking. I love Philosophy. One of the only college courses that i took while in the military was a Philosophy 107 course. I couldn't even tell you today what the course was actually entitled, but i loved it, and i got an A in it. It was something that i took for no other purpose than my own interest. Thanks for the fun and interesting topic! Hopefully it won't be the last!
@@tacpowers Thank you so much for your thoughtful response! Your comment is what makes this channel so much fun. I love how this topic inspired your thinking in several directions. I can assure you there will be more like this, including one that takes this particular topic in the direction of faith.
Good stuff! I had never heard this but I can see how important the topic is.. now as much as ever. Do we simply dismiss opposing views, or take a moment to try and understand another person's perspective. Very interesting as always.
One particular issue I have with the Schrödinger's cat "thought experiment" is that we can discuss each side of it all day long, but the truth lies with the cat. We can argue whether its alive or dead or both at once, but all we need do is "ask the cat" (not literally of course) and there we will have our answer. In other words, the cat already knows if it's dead or alive, and therein lies the truth whether we have measured it yet or not. Another, similar example could be whether or not it's raining in London right now. We could argue that until we take a measurement, it is both raining AND sunny in London right now. But to the person drenched and shivering in London, THAT person already knows the truth as it actually is right now despite whatever we might need confirmation of. I chose London as a nod to your Sherlock Holmes pipe choice. It's wonderful. Maybe I missed it, but what tobacco were you smoking? Anyway, great topic; thanks for your efforts!
@@libbyd1001 Indeed! You remind with your comment of this famous pair of limericks, the first by Bishop George Berkeley and the second by priest and Sherlock Holmes fan Ronald Knox. There once was a man who said “God Must think it exceedingly odd If he finds that this tree Continues to be When there’s no one about in the Quad.” “Dear Sir, Your astonishment’s odd. I am always about in the Quad. And that’s why the tree Will continue to be Since observed by Yours faithfully, God” If I didn’t say in the video, then the tobacco was Prince Albert.
I have spent more time pondering this than I probably should over many pipes. What if what you call green is actually my red? Such as if I looked at grass trough your eyes would I call it red or in fact would I agree that it’s green……… oh boy here I go again 😂 Another amazing chat!
@@TheNorthGAPiper Brother, you and I are so much alike! I remember sitting at the table as a little boy and having that exact same thought about color and the perception of others. I must say, having a philosophically inclined mind is deliciously fun!
That thinking is what’s wrong with the world today…..to some extent. Contrary to belief there are some constants or absolute truths and or facts. Whether you or I believe it. Thanks for sharing.
It is the Latin translation of a saying from Malcolm Guite. His original English is, "I do these little things in order, at last, to do nothing." The Latin is "Parva ago ut tandem nihil agam." Thanks for asking!
when one is born with a particular gender (sex is an act) it is not possible to change that but if someone prefers to be referred to as the opposite, it might break logic, but it's not for me to judge...and if I don't judge, then I might also be able to bring about a dialogue in good will that brings about a change....on the other hand, I refuse to refer to a singular person as "they/them" (or a lighter as a sandwich😊)
So... Maybe I'm the only person who exists and every one else is just my perception and when I leave the room they no longer exist..? I think I will stick with logic. 😉. I think a lot of young people are using this radical theory today and it really is breaking down all communication. Plato was right. As for Schrodinger's cat it is your perception whether or not the cat is dead or alive but logic will dictate that the cat is dead. Your perception will not be satisfied until you lift the lid.
@@PerkinsPipes Protagoras's quote "Man is the measure of all things" Is interpreted to mean that the individual, rather than god or an unchanging moral law, is the ultimate source of value. This can erode morality as well as society in my opinion.
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Since you're smoking from the Holmes line, I'll add that Sherlock would have referred to this as "quite a three pipe problem, Watson"
@@ForPipesSake Indeed!
Very thought-provoking program. Your discussion re-emphasizes my belief in the correct usage of words, which many people don't seem to care about. I might add this: if we read in between the lines of someone's speech, then we can arrive at his truth. I'll stop here. Great video!
Thanks so much for your comments! Words do indeed matter, along with how we use them. This is not a matter of being elitist or pedantic. Clear thought requires clear speech.
I just recently found your channel and I have been enjoying it greatly.
Thank you so much! Glad you enjoy it!
Always enjoy your videos professor. Enjoying Savinelli loaded with Maple Shadows.
Thanks for your comment! Glad you are enjoying a fine smoke!
This discussion covers so much about todays identity politics and such….
I just now was able to sit down and listen to this topic and whoa boy! Does this ever bring about more questions than answers involving not only philosophy but faith, and wokeness (as other people have kind of eluded to in other comments) and many other veins going off in all sorts of directions. I immediately thought, as you were talking, of two things...faith, in the fact that shooting the cat (hypothetically, of course!) brings about the fact (or theory) that some people would swear up and down that the cat was not alive based on the knowledge of what transpired as a result of faith. I could be completely speaking incorrectly here but that is what I was thinking. Faith meaning that these people believe in what happened completely without needing to prove the point, or open the box as it were. But, that might be getting off the primary subject and going in another direction. The other thing i was thinking was about an article i read about the protesters who just received 2 year prison sentences for throwing tomato soup on the priceless paintings and how Greenpeace had issued a statement saying that the actual throwing of the tomato soup was in fact an artistic expression in itself...and went on to describe how the tomato soup landed on the painting in a particular stroke, etc. So, in essence, one person might have seen it as a bad thing and another (in a strange, demented sort of way) as a good thing. Sorry for the long response, but that was just two of the many things that i was thinking as you were talking. I love Philosophy. One of the only college courses that i took while in the military was a Philosophy 107 course. I couldn't even tell you today what the course was actually entitled, but i loved it, and i got an A in it. It was something that i took for no other purpose than my own interest. Thanks for the fun and interesting topic! Hopefully it won't be the last!
@@tacpowers Thank you so much for your thoughtful response! Your comment is what makes this channel so much fun. I love how this topic inspired your thinking in several directions. I can assure you there will be more like this, including one that takes this particular topic in the direction of faith.
Good stuff!
I had never heard this but I can see how important the topic is.. now as much as ever.
Do we simply dismiss opposing views, or take a moment to try and understand another person's perspective.
Very interesting as always.
@@BobRichards_84 Thanks for your comment! So glad you enjoyed it!
One particular issue I have with the Schrödinger's cat "thought experiment" is that we can discuss each side of it all day long, but the truth lies with the cat. We can argue whether its alive or dead or both at once, but all we need do is "ask the cat" (not literally of course) and there we will have our answer. In other words, the cat already knows if it's dead or alive, and therein lies the truth whether we have measured it yet or not.
Another, similar example could be whether or not it's raining in London right now. We could argue that until we take a measurement, it is both raining AND sunny in London right now. But to the person drenched and shivering in London, THAT person already knows the truth as it actually is right now despite whatever we might need confirmation of.
I chose London as a nod to your Sherlock Holmes pipe choice. It's wonderful. Maybe I missed it, but what tobacco were you smoking?
Anyway, great topic; thanks for your efforts!
@@libbyd1001 Indeed! You remind with your comment of this famous pair of limericks, the first by Bishop George Berkeley and the second by priest and Sherlock Holmes fan Ronald Knox.
There once was a man who said “God
Must think it exceedingly odd
If he finds that this tree
Continues to be
When there’s no one about in the Quad.”
“Dear Sir,
Your astonishment’s odd.
I am always about in the Quad.
And that’s why the tree
Will continue to be
Since observed by
Yours faithfully,
God”
If I didn’t say in the video, then the tobacco was Prince Albert.
I have spent more time pondering this than I probably should over many pipes. What if what you call green is actually my red? Such as if I looked at grass trough your eyes would I call it red or in fact would I agree that it’s green……… oh boy here I go again 😂 Another amazing chat!
@@TheNorthGAPiper Brother, you and I are so much alike! I remember sitting at the table as a little boy and having that exact same thought about color and the perception of others. I must say, having a philosophically inclined mind is deliciously fun!
That thinking is what’s wrong with the world today…..to some extent.
Contrary to belief there are some constants or absolute truths and or facts. Whether you or I believe it.
Thanks for sharing.
Can you please write out your Latin phrase and it's translation. Thank you
It is the Latin translation of a saying from Malcolm Guite. His original English is, "I do these little things in order, at last, to do nothing." The Latin is "Parva ago ut tandem nihil agam." Thanks for asking!
@@PerkinsPipes I need that crossed stitched over my door. Lol
So if one is born one sex and then chooses to become another sex, what sex is he?
I would say that no amount of thinking or surgery or medicine will change the fact of one's birth sex. What are your thoughts?
@@PerkinsPipes
I believe you are right 👍
when one is born with a particular gender (sex is an act) it is not possible to change that but if someone prefers to be referred to as the opposite, it might break logic, but it's not for me to judge...and if I don't judge, then I might also be able to bring about a dialogue in good will that brings about a change....on the other hand, I refuse to refer to a singular person as "they/them" (or a lighter as a sandwich😊)
@@ForPipesSake
👍
@@ForPipesSake Well said!
So... Maybe I'm the only person who exists and every one else is just my perception and when I leave the room they no longer exist..? I think I will stick with logic. 😉. I think a lot of young people are using this radical theory today and it really is breaking down all communication. Plato was right. As for Schrodinger's cat it is your perception whether or not the cat is dead or alive but logic will dictate that the cat is dead. Your perception will not be satisfied until you lift the lid.
Indeed, there are moral implications here, and a friend has already texted me to say I should do a second part video to this to explore those.
@@PerkinsPipes Protagoras's quote "Man is the measure of all things" Is interpreted to mean that the individual, rather than god or an unchanging moral law, is the ultimate source of value. This can erode morality as well as society in my opinion.