Today, Tomcat171 announced his departure from the community and the removal of all Tomcat171-related profiles, including his TH-cam channel. He will be very missed, and the logo that used to show up in the ending card of this video will forever represent the hole he left behind in our niche fandom. It was an honor to work with him on making this video and doing other collabs together, including him joining the charity livestream on my channel. Thank you for everything, Tomcat, may you always fly high! More info on his Facebook post: facebook.com/Tomcat171/posts/1886434841457677
I see the "Go Dance with the Angels" commentary as a double-edged sword, meaning how you say it holds the context (cheerful = "good luck", "see you later" etc while angry = "go fuck yourself")
@@TheGamingKiller242 "You didn't help me get ready for this trip and kept my lunch-bag on the table for an hour!" yeah I'd be telling her to go fuck herself too
@@TycoonTitian01 yeah, if you complete the first four phases of the bonus mission fast enough he shows up alongside wizard ssquadron, shoots them down, and then you fight him instead
You're forgetting that the pressure is ridiculously high. I mean the literal air pressure. For Selumna Peaks at 14:14, it says that the pressure is 36 inches of mercury. Then with San Loma Assault at 17:43, it's 49.4inHg. Moloch Desert (23:18) comes in a 53.3inHg (i.e. more than 75% standard pressure at sea level). Weapons of Mass Destruction (25:48) has 49.6in, the Liberation of Gracemeria (29:42) features a pressure of 53.3inHg again, Gracemeria Patrol (32:03) has 53.1, and finally, Chandelier (35:36) gives us 52.7. If we do the math, that gives us an average atmospheric pressure of 49.6 inches of mercury. That's more than 65% the standard atmospheric pressure at sea level.
Might explain why Emmeria has such a seeminly temperate climate despite being so high in latitude. It always bothered me how Usea has basically Arctic conditions at it's northern areas even though it's northern areas don't reach up so high. Could be related to ocean currents or just the mistake of how Usea was placed into Strangereal when Namco started to fully develop AC4.
A sin should be taken off for Ace 6’s massive scale of battle. Especially for Anea Landing and Siege on Sliva. It makes the ground battles and landing campaigns in Ace Combat 5(Bunker shoot and Desert Lightning especially) look like childish gameplay. The allies fire support system is also epic. You never have such a fierce friendly support in all other versions.
@@陈逸凡陈逸凡 That's actually far less unreasonable than you might expect. The GAU-8 used by the A-10 fires both HE incendiary and AP rounds, and the AP rounds are solid depleted-uranium slugs. There's no explosive filler in them, so unless rounds hit the car's fuel tank there's no reason for it to explode. The sheer kinetic energy behind DU rounds would certainly disable the car even if the engine wasn't directly hit, maybe even rip the body off the frame, but there wouldn't be an explosion. Now, why a Warthog on occupation patrol wouldn't be using high explosive, which is much more effective against insurgents as they don't have access to armor, is another story.
Yeah this was my impression of this game just from this video. (to the tune of the conga line song) "TALKING TALKING TALKING! TALKING TALKING TALKING!"
@@strider117aldo9 Have you ever considered that Chopper was implied to be suicidal at that moment? The 2010 War took his mental toll on him. Why do you think he's a chatterbox?
CRUISING ON DOWN KING'S BRIDGE YOU'RE RELAXED AND FEELING GOOD NEXT THING THAT YOU KNOW YOU'RE SEEIN'-- *_(OH NOOOOOOO!)_* "FIGHTER JETS IN THE NEIGHBOURHOOD?!?!?!"
Alternative Title: "Sly and Tomcat (Mostly Sly Tho) Vent Out their Frustrations on An Game with Decent Gameplay but with So Much God Awful Writing He'd Rather Drink to Death than Analyze This Game's Poor Excuse for a Narrative"
@@firedrakeillusional9862 buck you. AC7's storytelling is just like AC04 (complete with silent and nigh-still cutscenes) with more focus on more than just two characters.
Ace Combat 4: 133 sins sentence: Zig Zag Missile Ace Combat 5: 159 sins sentence: Belkan Ace Combat zero: 140 sins sentence: what V2 was for Ace Combat 6: 240 sins sentence: Xbox Exclusive ultimate Final sin count: 672 sentence: Ace Combat 7 Nintendo Switch Exclusive
In regard to your question about if the drones were actually rendered in Mission 1, they are. When you're retreating, you can see drones flying to the left and right of you and that's why sometimes there are Nimbus Bursts just as you're leaving mission airspace. They're there, but obviously no target info on them.
"Go Dance With the Angels." Blaze & Cipher: "Angels? We killed them." "Uh... Go dance with the devils?" Blaze & Cipher: "Yeah.... that's us." "Well... shit..."
Fun fact: It's alluded that Cipher is the Demon of the North Chopper says he heard stories about as a kid. This is further supported by the fact that Cipher's exploits in Zero greatly parallel the Razgriz legend (he could also be considered to be the Dark Demon part of the legend while Wardog/Razgriz would be the great hero half).
Executive: So you have an Ace Combat sequel for me? Writer: Yes sir, I do, I was thinking of having the title be Fires of Liberation Executive: Sounds pretty liberating, what's it about? Writer: Well first off we're going to look at a house instead of an airport. Executive: Why a house? The last two Ace Combat games didn't show one. Writer: Because I want this to be as confusing as possible. Executive: Oh okay. Writer: So then we meet Melissa Herman who's supposed to be helping her daughter Matilda but is too attached to her book so she doesn't. Executive: Wow, getting attached to a book so that you don't have to help your child get ready for school is TIGHT. Writer: It really is. Executive: So then what? Writer: Well shortly after Matilda goes to school, Melissa starts talking to us about the city and Gracemeria Bridge which is the Pride of Gracemeria and then after that she starts talking about the castle which is where Matilda is going on a field trip and is also more famous than the bridge. Executive: If the castle is more famous than the bridge, how come the bridge is the Pride of Gracemeria? Writer: I don't know. Executive: Fair enough. Writer: So then the Estovakians attack and the Emmerians have to give up Gracemeria. Executive: How so? Writer: Well because the Estovakians brought along the Aigaion which was just as big as Hresvelger in the 0th game. Executive: If that's the case then how come Emmeria's satellites didn't detect it? Writer: Unclear. Executive: Oh okay. Writer: So then later on we meet Voychek. Executive: What's his deal? Writer: Well he's a lonely guy with a cane and was shot down by Talisman. Executive: During the time when we play as Talisman? Writer: Yes. Executive: Then what if we don't shoot him down, what happens then? Writer: Okay I'm gonna need you to get all the way off my back on that one. Executive: Oh okay, I'll get off of that back. Writer: Thank you. Executive: So then what happens? Writer: Well as Talisman and Shamrock are busy liberating the country, Melissa decides to go back to go back to Gracemeria to get her daughter that was left there. Executive: Well that's gonna be difficult being that Khesed Island is on the far other end of Gracemeria. Writer: Actually it's gonna be super easy, barely an inconvenience. Executive: Oh really? Writer: Yeah see, as she starts to give up, she meets Ludmila who just so happens to have a car. Executive: Wow wow wow. Writer: Wow. Executive: So what's Ludmila doing? Writer: She's also going to Gracemeria because her boyfriend is there. Executive: Coincidence? Writer: I think not. Executive: So then what? Writer: So then we get introduced a tank crew consisting of the gunner who doesn't say anything, the captain who speaks a lot, and the driver who also talks and used to rob banks. Executive: Wait if the driver was a criminal, how is he in the military? Writer: I don't know. Executive: Fair enough. Writer: So then they start liberating some more until they get to Selumna Peaks. Executive: Why do they stop liberating there? Writer: Well because Aigaion attacks them. Executive: Uh oh. Writer: Yeah so then they decide to take out the Aigaion. Executive: Well if the Aigaion has Nimbus Missiles and Strigion Team then it's gonna be pretty difficult to take it out. Writer: Actually it's gonna be super easy, barely an inconvenience. Executive: Oh really? Writer: Yeah see, they'll just borrow Galm 1's strategy. Executive: Destroy the AA guns, engines, and control bridge? Writer: Yep, five times. Executive: Awsome, I love it, what about the Strigion Team? Writer: Well they're all gonna go out like Espada Team did. Executive: Good we must've gotten rid of them now. Writer: Oh no, they return again. Executive: For the fourth time? Writer: For the fourth time. Executive: Having to fight the same aces over and over is TIGHT. Writer: It really is, especially if it gets you suspended. Executive: Oh Talisman and Shamrock get in trouble for it? Writer: Yeah because I made it so that you wouldn't be able to follow your orders even if you wanted to. Executive: Wow wow wow. Writer: So then they realize that Talisman and Shamrock are needed after twenty-four hours of suspension because they need them to destroy the WMD which is currently being transported to Gracemeria. Executive: Why couldn't we get another squadron like Windhover or Avalanche to destroy the WMD? Writer: Because I want to give players a trench mission because you can't have Ace Combat without one of those. Executive: Oh okay. Writer: So then we see Melissa and Ludmila again who have hitched a ride with the tank crew we saw a while ago. Executive: Okay. Writer: And then the tank crew leaves them in the middle of a forest so that they can rob a bank. Executive: Makes you wonder if the Emmerian Military does background checks on anyone before they let them in the military. Writer: It really does. Executive: So then what happens? Writer: So then Talisman and Shamrock liberate Gracemeria and take out Pasternak. Executive: Who's Pasternak? Writer: My excuse to have a rival in the game. Executive: Oh okay. Writer: So then the tank crew gets to the bank which is actually the castle. Executive: What's in the castle? Writer: Some kids, one of them being Matilda, Voychek, and the statue of the Golden King. Executive: So does the tank crew let the kids and Voychek out and mounts the statue onto their tank? Writer: Yep. Executive: Wow wow wow. Writer: So then Melissa and Matilda get reunited. Executive: Oh how sweet. Writer: Then later that night while the Garuda team is on patrol as the fireworks go off, we learn that Shamrock's wife and daughter were murdered by the Estovakians. Executive: Ouch, talk about ruining a heartwarming moment. Writer: I know, right. So then the Estovakians attack Gracemeria again, this time using the Chandelier. Executive: What's Chandelier? Writer: My excuse to have a big super weapon fight at the end. Executive: Oh okay. Writer: So then the Emmerian air force head over to Sonne Island to take out the Chandelier and Melissa manages to get in contact with them. Executive: How does she do that when she's 1,000 miles away from them? Writer: I don't know. Executive: Fair enough. Writer: So then they attack the Chandelier and while going through a tunnel Shamrock gets shot down. Executive: Whoops. Writer: Whoopsie. Executive: So then who deals the final blow? Writer: Well obviously Talisman. Executive: How? Writer: By going straight into Chandelier's barrel which he manages to escape from. Executive: Destroying super weapons by shooting the barrel is TIGHT. Writer: It really is. Executive: So then what. Writer: So then Ludmila and Tosha get married. Executive: Who's Tosha? Writer: I just made him up. Executive: Oh okay. Writer: And then Shamrock and Melissa get together, possibly making Shamrock Matilda's step-dad. Executive: Wait, Shamrock is still alive? Writer: Yes he is. Executive: How is he alive? Writer: Because I want him to be alive. Executive: Oh okay, so then what? Writer: That's it. What do you think? Executive: Well the story's kinda odd but if we make it an Xbox 360 exclusive instead of a PlayStation 3 exclusive no one will care and they'll still pay for it anyway. Writer: Exactly.
So the last time you were this early was June 6, 1995? Dude TH-cam wasn't even a thing until like 2003 so you clearly must be some kind of time-traveler.
Still winds up sounding off, mostly along with references to "Italian food" in other games and Melissa's dialogue which winds up feeling even more lifeless and flat than the child from AC4.
@@kereminde Don't forget one Belkan superweapon being a direct reference to Arthurian legend (Excalibur) and the other superweapon in the same game being named for the Norse jötunn who is the origin of wind (Hræsvelgr).
When you think about it we got a downgrade in Ace Combat 7. In AC6 the picture in picture of enemy, friendly and wingman shows a video of them moving and talking. But in AC7 it is either a hand-drawn picture or a photo. That and in AC7 our wingman does nothing to help us.
38:48 You know, I think since Shamrock lived anyway, it would be better narrative-wise to kill off *Talisman.* You know, the player character for once doesn't make it, but his irreversible sacrifice makes him look different from all other faceless player characters. And they wouldn't even have to change the final cutscene, it would just be interpreted more bitter-sweetenly than if Talisman lived.
20:28 As the Strigons took casualties, Estovakia aggregated what was left of Strigon with Vampire Team, who had originially been commanded by Ilya Pasternak. 27:36 Everyone was waiting either out of radar range of the Stovies or on the ground ready to scramble to Exfil Garuda if need be. 29:52 The Bridge is the pride of Gracemeria, the Golden King is the pride of Emmeria.
21:11 I *still* can't get over how cringy that line is. Here's a line Shamrock should have said that would have also referenced Ace Combat 5 (as the Razgriz Straits also appears in this game) "Into the deep blue grave. May the Razgriz have mercy on your soul." Was it that hard to come up with a line other than what we got here...?
Oh especially that Mine who got the name butchered to hell, Razuriz?? Sounded like a mistranslation but ok, i mean imagine this game like mention Razgriz for one or more time. Yeah anyway Chandelier's placement is pretty much not that far from Hrimfaxi's grave
I thought you would sin this line: "Don't get overeager! Just do what you always do!" What an Ace Combat veteran hears: "So, don't kill everything, but do kill everything."
If Melissa said "Can you hear me" and Mihaly said "Can you hear me" as well... **develops theories** ...Is Mihaly Melissa's HUSBAND?! I'm just kidding. Good job with this video. Hilarious to the sight.😂
@@jamesharris4695 and Melissa's husband got downed by A pilot. And Mihaly said he downed lots of pilots. *develops theories* ...Mihaly shot down Melissa's husband 🤣
11:18 that whole side plot is a Kelly's heroes reference and a lot of militaries let criminals in to exchange time in prison for service and very notably the US army
This was the first game of the ace combat series I had ever played and I fell in love with the universe and the story. I know it has many flaws, and I would be one of the first to call it out if asked, but this game still holds a special place in my heart. I played it for so long, I loved the characters and the different units you would interact with, some staying with you all the way to the liberation off Gracemeria. One thing I sorely miss is the operations. To me, it felt like I was part of a bigger cause, with massive ground battles and ariel fights that could be swung in favor by the player. There were so many little stories within the campaign that I loved to explore it. I understand that this game is not everyone's favorite, but I just wanted to say that I loved this game and all of the massive set-piece battles, the characters, and units. It brought me into the franchise and I intend to continue to be a loyal supporter of this franchise for many years to come!
I couldn't help but say "You right" throughout the video even when I played I didn't think that hard about alot of the plot errors and laughable dialogue but I still love the game
I find the "how come they didn't detect the surprise attack" pretty odd when it was explained that one of the aigaion's support craft has jamming abilities
I'll be back here when the prediction proves false. Even the best games have some number of sins, my friend. The question is, are you willing to look past them?
@@oneofmanyparadoxfans5447 Well we all wage War with the past, and it leaves its scars. But hopefully it will not be a nuclear one cutting Erusea in half...
15:00 If we take Ace Combat 7 VR Mode into consideration, it's possible for Mobius 1 to take part in the Selumna Peak mission. I'm sure the IUN-PKF had little involvement in the Emmeria-Estovakia war. After all, it IS an international peacekeeping force.
34:52 chandelier is actually mounted on a floating iceberg that can turn AND move. so yeah, it CAN move. "Estovakia chose to construct the weapon on a glacier, which would allow it to rotate and sail to different locations."
I know some of you guys were hoping for me to sin "DON'T WALK" right at the end of the game. That one got cut in favor of... well... the rant I ended up with XD Please remember that most sins got cut for time, as these are long videos!
33:33 Nitpick, pretty sure that was in reference to the "banter' between Shamrock and Avalanche as a bit of a joke since that's in the same area code you're flying in. So Windhover was making fun of Avalanche and Shamrock I think.
I'm pretty sure Chandelier actually can move on its own. It's built onto a massive ice shelf, and you can definitely see what looks like a gigantic propulsion system (The wikia states that they installed a Magneto-hydrodynamic drive) at the back of it during the mission. How else would it have been able to engage the asteroids (If it was completed in time) if it was stuck facing one direction? It's basically a gigantic ship made out of ice, with the superweapon constructed on top of it.
Well, one nitpick- pilots generally are more risqué with nose art but it's also true that the amount of clothes is directly proportional to the distance from a major civilian presence. In the capital, this is what I'd expect. Out in the desert where no one is you get naked ladies (except not anymore irl because apparently it offends the locals- more than using said planes to drop bombs on their countrymen in fact).
Personally, when Shamrock went down, GhostEye losing his composure and calling Shamrock by his real name stuck out to me. I thought the emotion in that was nailed perfectly.
I'd also like to point out that whenever there are cruise missile attacks they come from the North by Northeast part of the map. Which doesn't make sense given that the Aigaion is to the South. Also for the radar detection issue in mission 9 I would guess it's because the 112's wings are so long it blocks of the front left/right or center of the Kottos aircraft; which subsequently does the same to the Gyges as seen in the cutscene.
I like how any line that is "Dance with the Angels" gets automatically sinned after the first few times and basically becomes the running gag of the video XD
16:22 Funnily enough the drones *are* rendered (and possibly functioning) in the first mission. I know because in one of my playthroughs, I had one fly in front of me for a few moments before flying off and then an orange bubble appeared on the radar roughly where the "black flying thing" that I saw would have been after leaving my fov.
37:54 Aight hold on here, of all times to say the moment was ruined, I just cannot understand at all choosing the part where the eternally-happy and collected AWACS breaks character, loses his cool completely for the only time in the game and screams for the dude not by callsign but by name. If anything that drove it in deeper for me.
Just in case if you watch this on mobile phone, sin at 2:51 indicates that your wingman fires a missile right next to you. This is what it confused me for quite a long time (and why Sly sinned it while I don't see or hear shit) since phones are not sensitive to hear some or particular SFX, but computer speakers can.
24:20 This bugged the piss out of me the first time I played this game...and still does. I'm supposed to be Garuda *1*, as in the one who gives Garuda *2* orders, but this is the one time where the game forces me to help Garuda 2 disobey orders from AWACS.
So wait...the officer guy lost TWO briefcases in enemy territory, and yet they still entrusted him with classified information on their last-ditch, possibly-win-the-war superweapon?!
SlyCooperFan1, I don't think you should have sinned the cutscene where the dude says, "Back to the sea you go. May you rest... in quiet slumber." Aigaion is the name the son of Gaia. He rules over the seas storms. The dude was obviously referencing this. The reference also fits pretty well since the heavy command cruiser caused a 'storm' wherever nimbus launched. "Back to the sea you go." - Referencing Greek Aiagion. "May you rest in quiet slumber." - Basically telling the cruiser and the myth to stop creating storms. The info is on Acepedia too, which is where I got it from. If anything, I think a sin should have been taken off for the reference, as it was a good line imo. Yes, not many people will get the reference, but if they want to know why the reference exists, they would search it up and find out about Aigaion in the mythos. Learning/Knowledge should never be sinned. SlyCooperFan1 Sin count +1 Further more, Chandelier is NOT Stuck in place. It's a giant iceberg ship, you can see the path it took to turn around and face Gracemeria on the map. AND you can see the giant engine on the back!!! SlyCooperFan1 Sin count +2 I believe the point of Shamrock flying into the tunnel was to get data for AWACS. AWACS didn't have any data on the backup cooling unit, so Shamrock flew down and got either a camera shot or radar data on the cooling unit.
13:38 I bet his name is another Namco arcade reference just like Sky Kid, and yeaaaah I bet instead of eating his salad on lunch , he SMOKED the salad 😂😂😂😂😂
Wouldn't it be more efficient for the bus/train to drop the refugees off as soon as they are reasonably safe and then go back for more people who are still in the conflict zone. Far more people can be evacuated in a short time if you use this method.
Missed the oportunity of doing a bonus round sinning every "Go dance with the angels" instead of sinning them individually kinda How cinema sins does in some videos.
If you think about "Go dance with an angel" as the equivalent to "Go F*ck yourself", the game gets better. Specially when Matilda says the sentence to her mom prior to departing toward the King's Castle.
Sin 233: The Boltzmann Treaty is maybe referring to the unnamed treaty mentioned in the pre-mission briefing that multiple nations signed together that prohibited any further development of Anti-Asteroid Superweapons due to its potential for evil. Given what happened with Stonehenge, Fortress Intolerance, and Megalith, this seems to be plausible. However, that should still be sinned, because the treaty should have been named. We have another treaty that was only brought up once, but it still got named: The Treaty of Lumen, that (mostly) ended the Belkan War.
About those machine guns, considering that the plane we saw were A-10s and probably their unseen escorts. It’s semantic but it’s not even machine gun, it’s a bloody autocannon. I’m more astounded that a civilian vehicle engine was able to survive a hit from either 20, 25, or 30mm autocannon and got them that far, a much more acceptable explanation would be that the engine was hit by the fragments from those strafing aircrafts.
Damn, I wanted to see "Emmerian pilot does not have access to classified foreign military files" in the tunnel part. :P And the Anea landing mission makes me wonder why the soon to be recaptured oil reserves that could be used by friendly logistics are targets... And Chandelier seems mobile to me, floating on that massive iceberg. (Also the song fits with the Estovakians' mood IMO as well.) Anyway, good game.
When a flight of planes is to take off in wartime, many airforces only clear the plane at the front of the formation to take off. This is because several flights could be on the runway simultaneously and it's just a waste of time to call out individual flights.
In an odd twist, the manual for the game reveals why the Estovakians went to war against Emmeria in the first place-back when Estovakia looked more like the wild west, the Emmerians sent humanitarian aid to help the innocents, most of which ended up falling into a warlord who infamously threatened to starve 250,000 people caught in the crossfire until the other factions gave him what he wanted. When the Emmerians found out, they stopped...only to get back at it again a year later, even though they were fully aware that this was a thing, not that it mattered when the guy was defeated by the faction who won the civil war after 5 long years. The Estovakians (or at least the Generals) have a valid reason to hate Emmeria due to this. Of course, this is never communicated in the game itself, even when we see through the eyes of the Intelligence Officer, so it looks like a Black and White conflict when it really isn't.
It's not as black and white as that, either. We have the information on the wiki. Thing is, though, Cinema Sins always says "the books do not matter" in regards to movies made from books, so I follow the same sort of rule of ignoring outside lore for the most part.
Tbh, English is not my native language but I would've added a sin for how they constantly say "this thing"...I always thought it sounded weird, especially since the usual formula is to just say "this", like "This isn't over yet" instead of "this thing isn't over yet"
I dunno, I loved the Chandelier music and thought it fit with the frigid desolate area the gun is in. Also, I always thought the guy loading the Stauros shells sounded cool, not sure why - maybe it's the radio distortion used in his dialogue.
36:55 did you expect that we _could_ destroy those *hypervelocity** shells? *yes, electromagnetic railguns have muzzle velocity over 3-6 km/s Ah, no. Those missle on the carousel below the gun *yes, that a sin*
38:50 Nitpick again, Shamrock definitely wasn't dead from his crash. In my mind his "death" scene was so poorly delivered, the game was handing hints that he'd be able to land his F-15 on the glacier. When he mentioned "angel wings" I figured it was some stupid way to say "ok, I'll just glide and crash land" . . . I was 16 when I inferred that. So this cutscene twist I was like "Oh, look a dude with the face in a wheelchair that isn't Estovakian. That's Sham-fuck".
I never understood how they used "Dance with the Angels". They constantly throw it as an insult, but then they tell their friends to dance with the angels as encouragement, and cheerfully talk about how they're dancing with the angels. What kind of insult is this?
Maybe the meaning changes based on the tone, kinda like "go screw yourself!" Can be either playful/endearing if said in a light tone, or an insult. Not defending it or anything though. Everytime my wingman said that stupid line, I honestly made an effort to blow him out of the sky with the EML.
Interestingly enough, the game DOES render the drones in the first mission when the nimbus missiles are launched. If you manage to kill most of the enemies in the area, you’ll see unmarked aircraft flying around since theres nothing to hide them. You can kill them, and the game registers it, but nothing else happens.
I was hoping to see a sin for the Strigon AI on Bartolomeo, lol! Anyway awesome job as always, fortunately the game is so awesome gameplay- and graphic-wise that i can ignore that horrible writing!
And if he's no good with directions, how is he still in the military? You've never served in the Military. Officers that aren't good with directions are pretty common.
Project ACES/Bandai Namco has the same hard on for the number 15 that Bungie had for 7. 15 years between the Belkan War and the Circum Pacific War, 15 years between the First and Second Continental Wars, 15 years between Ulyssess and Chandelier's destruction.
There are multiple pronunciations to Strigon. It does not matter. And yes, the drones are rendered in the 1st mission. You can see and hit them, but invincible.
I didn't even realize "Blue Max" was a Namco reference. He comes up right after a line by "Red Baron", and "Blue Max" is a nickname for the highest military award of Imperial Germany, the "Pour le Merite", essentially equivalent to the Medal of Honor or the Victoria Cross.
kingofmonsters14 it’s partly why I actually enjoy the series, it’s just over the top Hollywood style action that makes you feel like a badass fighter pilot out of top gun, realism isn’t a factor for me in this game
@@kingofmonsters14 Very few characters with focus act like human beings. Like when Melissa and Matilda are finally reunited in Gracemaria's liberation, any human mother and daughter would be hugging each other fiercely and crying of joy. Instead, they decided to regurgitate the "dance with the angels" thing again, rather than having a real, organic moment of emotion. With the exception of Shamrock in some places and the general guy with the kids, the whole game seems to be seeped in unnatural interactions like this. It takes you out of the moment and just reminds you that this is all fictional and makes you wonder why you should care about any of them when there's barely two identifiably human characters in the whole game.
Also in Ragno Fortress, the tunnel operation and the Windhover operation are listed as start positions 2 and 3 respectively, but in the mission they are switched around and they are C and B
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Today, Tomcat171 announced his departure from the community and the removal of all Tomcat171-related profiles, including his TH-cam channel. He will be very missed, and the logo that used to show up in the ending card of this video will forever represent the hole he left behind in our niche fandom. It was an honor to work with him on making this video and doing other collabs together, including him joining the charity livestream on my channel. Thank you for everything, Tomcat, may you always fly high!
More info on his Facebook post: facebook.com/Tomcat171/posts/1886434841457677
Aww.. Some of his videos were amazing. Shame they're all gone.
Man, I miss that guy too much
what even happened? link is bunk
Wtf happened?!
He's still in my sub box.. RIP
When Matilda told her mom to "Dance with the Angels" during my first playthrough, I thought she just told her mom to kill herself
Which is why it seems especially weird that when we hear P.O.W.s say it later, it's clearly with the sub-text of "Go fuck yourself".
I'm so glad that I wasn't the only one
Same
I see the "Go Dance with the Angels" commentary as a double-edged sword, meaning how you say it holds the context (cheerful = "good luck", "see you later" etc while angry = "go fuck yourself")
@@TheGamingKiller242 "You didn't help me get ready for this trip and kept my lunch-bag on the table for an hour!" yeah I'd be telling her to go fuck herself too
The music from Liberation of Gracemeria should get a sin off
Anea Landing, Liberation of Gracemeria is epic. So does the siege on Silva
Don’t forget invasion of gracemeria
chandelier and heavy command cruiser
Selumna Peak
For me that's the best music of the franchise
I love the implication that Mobius 1 pops up in random battles like, "hold my beer while I wipe out an entire combat wing"
I mean... he literally does that in the bonus mission in AC Zero if you're fast enough in the first four phases
@@faultyvideos2215 wait what
@@TycoonTitian01 yeah, if you complete the first four phases of the bonus mission fast enough he shows up alongside wizard ssquadron, shoots them down, and then you fight him instead
You're forgetting that the pressure is ridiculously high. I mean the literal air pressure. For Selumna Peaks at 14:14, it says that the pressure is 36 inches of mercury. Then with San Loma Assault at 17:43, it's 49.4inHg. Moloch Desert (23:18) comes in a 53.3inHg (i.e. more than 75% standard pressure at sea level). Weapons of Mass Destruction (25:48) has 49.6in, the Liberation of Gracemeria (29:42) features a pressure of 53.3inHg again, Gracemeria Patrol (32:03) has 53.1, and finally, Chandelier (35:36) gives us 52.7.
If we do the math, that gives us an average atmospheric pressure of 49.6 inches of mercury. That's more than 65% the standard atmospheric pressure at sea level.
this deserves more praise than it has
I can't believe I didn't notice the pressure gauges in the briefing screens! Incredible find!
I think the numbers are just screen fillers.
Which makes you wonder how the aircraft fly so fast *DING!*
Might explain why Emmeria has such a seeminly temperate climate despite being so high in latitude. It always bothered me how Usea has basically Arctic conditions at it's northern areas even though it's northern areas don't reach up so high. Could be related to ocean currents or just the mistake of how Usea was placed into Strangereal when Namco started to fully develop AC4.
wow i cant believe you got this video to be under 700 hours long
ayyy im surprised no one else recognized your channel. like your content as well.
Oh shoot hello there
You finished?
A sin should be taken off for Ace 6’s massive scale of battle. Especially for Anea Landing and Siege on Sliva.
It makes the ground battles and landing campaigns in Ace Combat 5(Bunker shoot and Desert Lightning especially) look like childish gameplay.
The allies fire support system is also epic.
You never have such a fierce friendly support in all other versions.
AND a sin should be given for that mini Car that is hit by A-10’s 30MM shells AND just suffer an engine failure (instead of being blown to pieces) 😆
AND there should be some sins for AOA campaigns. That’s the most ridiculous ones. 😆
@@陈逸凡陈逸凡 A lot of what you're saying was stuff I did sin in the early draft, but I had to cut. Please read the description.
Pixy is laughing at you. PJ is kinda chuckling. Edge, Chopper, Archer and Snow just turned away.
@@陈逸凡陈逸凡 That's actually far less unreasonable than you might expect. The GAU-8 used by the A-10 fires both HE incendiary and AP rounds, and the AP rounds are solid depleted-uranium slugs. There's no explosive filler in them, so unless rounds hit the car's fuel tank there's no reason for it to explode. The sheer kinetic energy behind DU rounds would certainly disable the car even if the engine wasn't directly hit, maybe even rip the body off the frame, but there wouldn't be an explosion. Now, why a Warthog on occupation patrol wouldn't be using high explosive, which is much more effective against insurgents as they don't have access to armor, is another story.
What makes it funnier is that that the EWW:AC5 video was nitpicky fun but everything about the cutscenes in this video is an actual valid complaint.
Yeah this was my impression of this game just from this video.
(to the tune of the conga line song) "TALKING TALKING TALKING! TALKING TALKING TALKING!"
What about Chopper? Why can't he go to the river or belly land at some empty landpatch?
@@strider117aldo9 too soon mate.
@@bigwezz It;s always too soon.
@@strider117aldo9 Have you ever considered that Chopper was implied to be suicidal at that moment? The 2010 War took his mental toll on him. Why do you think he's a chatterbox?
Mm mm, that ain’t no regular school bus, Ms. Frizzle is on the wheel.
Melissa: "I knew she should've stayed home today."
Lol XD
i see you're a man of culture.
I just thought of flying the school bus instead of a fighter jet
CRUISING ON DOWN KING'S BRIDGE
YOU'RE RELAXED AND FEELING GOOD
NEXT THING THAT YOU KNOW YOU'RE SEEIN'--
*_(OH NOOOOOOO!)_*
"FIGHTER JETS IN THE NEIGHBOURHOOD?!?!?!"
Alternative Title:
"Sly and Tomcat (Mostly Sly Tho) Vent Out their Frustrations on An Game with Decent Gameplay but with So Much God Awful Writing He'd Rather Drink to Death than Analyze This Game's Poor Excuse for a Narrative"
Yeah, that sounds about right.
Call me crazy but......AC7's story is asscheeks.
@@firedrakeillusional9862 i could known if the pc port wasn't cancer
Hahahaha
@@firedrakeillusional9862 buck you. AC7's storytelling is just like AC04 (complete with silent and nigh-still cutscenes) with more focus on more than just two characters.
Ace Combat 4: 133 sins sentence: Zig Zag Missile
Ace Combat 5: 159 sins sentence: Belkan
Ace Combat zero: 140 sins sentence: what V2 was for
Ace Combat 6: 240 sins sentence: Xbox Exclusive
ultimate Final sin count: 672 sentence: Ace Combat 7 Nintendo Switch Exclusive
OML
could you imagine playing with the joycons? fucking impossible
If ac7 were a switch exclusive, i would immediately buy a switch.
Wait until you get to fucking Assaut Hor-*is murdered*
Well Project Aces did make "The Sky Crawlers" which was Nintendo Wii exclusive...
AC6 is now backwards compatible on Xbox one if anyone wants to give it a play again before AC7
I'm playing it on a 1080p TV and its still running at 30 fps...
In regard to your question about if the drones were actually rendered in Mission 1, they are. When you're retreating, you can see drones flying to the left and right of you and that's why sometimes there are Nimbus Bursts just as you're leaving mission airspace. They're there, but obviously no target info on them.
Are you sure that they are drones? If you shoot down Strigon 1, the Strigon Team keeps rendered but you lose their target info.
@@hello-hb1ll Yeah, theyre drones. the way the fly is different from Strigon or other A/C. also their silhouettesare different from the Su-33
@@hello-hb1ll I believe Strigon is rendered but exit the battlespace to the Northwest.
Angels: *exists*
Cipher and Blaze: haha
*Target Destroyed*
Does make you wonder whose side Cypher is on in the Chandelier mission.
@@flyboymike111357 Whoever's paying him the most, obviously.
@@JaelinBezel Eh, I figure if that's really how it works the Belkans would have tried outbidding Ustio 3 missions into AC0
"Go Dance With the Angels."
Blaze & Cipher: "Angels? We killed them."
"Uh... Go dance with the devils?"
Blaze & Cipher: "Yeah.... that's us."
"Well... shit..."
Fun fact: It's alluded that Cipher is the Demon of the North Chopper says he heard stories about as a kid. This is further supported by the fact that Cipher's exploits in Zero greatly parallel the Razgriz legend (he could also be considered to be the Dark Demon part of the legend while Wardog/Razgriz would be the great hero half).
It's time for Sly to **MEME WITH THE ANGELS**
(Ding)
Jia Jun Oh *Ding*
*Sin ding*
Executive: So you have an Ace Combat sequel for me?
Writer: Yes sir, I do, I was thinking of having the title be Fires of Liberation
Executive: Sounds pretty liberating, what's it about?
Writer: Well first off we're going to look at a house instead of an airport.
Executive: Why a house? The last two Ace Combat games didn't show one.
Writer: Because I want this to be as confusing as possible.
Executive: Oh okay.
Writer: So then we meet Melissa Herman who's supposed to be helping her daughter Matilda but is too attached to her book so she doesn't.
Executive: Wow, getting attached to a book so that you don't have to help your child get ready for school is TIGHT.
Writer: It really is.
Executive: So then what?
Writer: Well shortly after Matilda goes to school, Melissa starts talking to us about the city and Gracemeria Bridge which is the Pride of Gracemeria and then after that she starts talking about the castle which is where Matilda is going on a field trip and is also more famous than the bridge.
Executive: If the castle is more famous than the bridge, how come the bridge is the Pride of Gracemeria?
Writer: I don't know.
Executive: Fair enough.
Writer: So then the Estovakians attack and the Emmerians have to give up Gracemeria.
Executive: How so?
Writer: Well because the Estovakians brought along the Aigaion which was just as big as Hresvelger in the 0th game.
Executive: If that's the case then how come Emmeria's satellites didn't detect it?
Writer: Unclear.
Executive: Oh okay.
Writer: So then later on we meet Voychek.
Executive: What's his deal?
Writer: Well he's a lonely guy with a cane and was shot down by Talisman.
Executive: During the time when we play as Talisman?
Writer: Yes.
Executive: Then what if we don't shoot him down, what happens then?
Writer: Okay I'm gonna need you to get all the way off my back on that one.
Executive: Oh okay, I'll get off of that back.
Writer: Thank you.
Executive: So then what happens?
Writer: Well as Talisman and Shamrock are busy liberating the country, Melissa decides to go back to go back to Gracemeria to get her daughter that was left there.
Executive: Well that's gonna be difficult being that Khesed Island is on the far other end of Gracemeria.
Writer: Actually it's gonna be super easy, barely an inconvenience.
Executive: Oh really?
Writer: Yeah see, as she starts to give up, she meets Ludmila who just so happens to have a car.
Executive: Wow wow wow.
Writer: Wow.
Executive: So what's Ludmila doing?
Writer: She's also going to Gracemeria because her boyfriend is there.
Executive: Coincidence?
Writer: I think not.
Executive: So then what?
Writer: So then we get introduced a tank crew consisting of the gunner who doesn't say anything, the captain who speaks a lot, and the driver who also talks and used to rob banks.
Executive: Wait if the driver was a criminal, how is he in the military?
Writer: I don't know.
Executive: Fair enough.
Writer: So then they start liberating some more until they get to Selumna Peaks.
Executive: Why do they stop liberating there?
Writer: Well because Aigaion attacks them.
Executive: Uh oh.
Writer: Yeah so then they decide to take out the Aigaion.
Executive: Well if the Aigaion has Nimbus Missiles and Strigion Team then it's gonna be pretty difficult to take it out.
Writer: Actually it's gonna be super easy, barely an inconvenience.
Executive: Oh really?
Writer: Yeah see, they'll just borrow Galm 1's strategy.
Executive: Destroy the AA guns, engines, and control bridge?
Writer: Yep, five times.
Executive: Awsome, I love it, what about the Strigion Team?
Writer: Well they're all gonna go out like Espada Team did.
Executive: Good we must've gotten rid of them now.
Writer: Oh no, they return again.
Executive: For the fourth time?
Writer: For the fourth time.
Executive: Having to fight the same aces over and over is TIGHT.
Writer: It really is, especially if it gets you suspended.
Executive: Oh Talisman and Shamrock get in trouble for it?
Writer: Yeah because I made it so that you wouldn't be able to follow your orders even if you wanted to.
Executive: Wow wow wow.
Writer: So then they realize that Talisman and Shamrock are needed after twenty-four hours of suspension because they need them to destroy the WMD which is currently being transported to Gracemeria.
Executive: Why couldn't we get another squadron like Windhover or Avalanche to destroy the WMD?
Writer: Because I want to give players a trench mission because you can't have Ace Combat without one of those.
Executive: Oh okay.
Writer: So then we see Melissa and Ludmila again who have hitched a ride with the tank crew we saw a while ago.
Executive: Okay.
Writer: And then the tank crew leaves them in the middle of a forest so that they can rob a bank.
Executive: Makes you wonder if the Emmerian Military does background checks on anyone before they let them in the military.
Writer: It really does.
Executive: So then what happens?
Writer: So then Talisman and Shamrock liberate Gracemeria and take out Pasternak.
Executive: Who's Pasternak?
Writer: My excuse to have a rival in the game.
Executive: Oh okay.
Writer: So then the tank crew gets to the bank which is actually the castle.
Executive: What's in the castle?
Writer: Some kids, one of them being Matilda, Voychek, and the statue of the Golden King.
Executive: So does the tank crew let the kids and Voychek out and mounts the statue onto their tank?
Writer: Yep.
Executive: Wow wow wow.
Writer: So then Melissa and Matilda get reunited.
Executive: Oh how sweet.
Writer: Then later that night while the Garuda team is on patrol as the fireworks go off, we learn that Shamrock's wife and daughter were murdered by the Estovakians.
Executive: Ouch, talk about ruining a heartwarming moment.
Writer: I know, right. So then the Estovakians attack Gracemeria again, this time using the Chandelier.
Executive: What's Chandelier?
Writer: My excuse to have a big super weapon fight at the end.
Executive: Oh okay.
Writer: So then the Emmerian air force head over to Sonne Island to take out the Chandelier and Melissa manages to get in contact with them.
Executive: How does she do that when she's 1,000 miles away from them?
Writer: I don't know.
Executive: Fair enough.
Writer: So then they attack the Chandelier and while going through a tunnel Shamrock gets shot down.
Executive: Whoops.
Writer: Whoopsie.
Executive: So then who deals the final blow?
Writer: Well obviously Talisman.
Executive: How?
Writer: By going straight into Chandelier's barrel which he manages to escape from.
Executive: Destroying super weapons by shooting the barrel is TIGHT.
Writer: It really is.
Executive: So then what.
Writer: So then Ludmila and Tosha get married.
Executive: Who's Tosha?
Writer: I just made him up.
Executive: Oh okay.
Writer: And then Shamrock and Melissa get together, possibly making Shamrock Matilda's step-dad.
Executive: Wait, Shamrock is still alive?
Writer: Yes he is.
Executive: How is he alive?
Writer: Because I want him to be alive.
Executive: Oh okay, so then what?
Writer: That's it. What do you think?
Executive: Well the story's kinda odd but if we make it an Xbox 360 exclusive instead of a PlayStation 3 exclusive no one will care and they'll still pay for it anyway.
Writer: Exactly.
Super easy barely an inconvenience
Dang it must've been hard to write this pitch meeting wasn't it
@@aurorapaisley7453 Actually it was super easy, barely an inconvenience.
Still peeved about that Xbox exclusive bs… but hey could be worse
Holy shit now I understand why some people say this game are pretty dark
Last time im this early belka was still detonating the 7 nukes
Too soon man...😔
We'll get to experience it in a cutscene again soon
So the last time you were this early was June 6, 1995? Dude TH-cam wasn't even a thing until like 2003 so you clearly must be some kind of time-traveler.
@@JaelinBezel uh
@@JaelinBezel El Psy Congroo
You do realize that Shamrock makes that quote at 21:11 because Aigaion was the god of the storms of the Aegean Sea in Greek mythology, right?
Still winds up sounding off, mostly along with references to "Italian food" in other games and Melissa's dialogue which winds up feeling even more lifeless and flat than the child from AC4.
Why would the Greeks exist in Strangereal? (Ques Chopper's "Dutch Rolling" line or AC 7's "Italian Bistro" line)
@@logangagnepain7154 you forgot your plane being _swiss_ cheesed
@@kereminde Don't forget one Belkan superweapon being a direct reference to Arthurian legend (Excalibur) and the other superweapon in the same game being named for the Norse jötunn who is the origin of wind (Hræsvelgr).
@@captvalstrax Well, as we know, Belka did nothing wrong. Including picking their names.
Starting the year off right by dancing with the angels
*ding*
When you think about it we got a downgrade in Ace Combat 7. In AC6 the picture in picture of enemy, friendly and wingman shows a video of them moving and talking. But in AC7 it is either a hand-drawn picture or a photo. That and in AC7 our wingman does nothing to help us.
Ace combat 7 is more just a more intense Ace combat 4-ish with an attemp to combine 5 and 4 story style.
Love that details in AC6, I'm eager to have a useful Allies and animated Deanna McOnie
And smaller scale than 6
"For the sake of time, not every possible sin could be included."
Proceeds to make it over 40 minutes long.
Couldn't help myself lol
Still not long enough to get em all
*DING!*
@@maxmoore970 For every "go dance with the angels," one Ulysses fragment hits Emmeria
That might just be barley enough
Then EWW AC7 comes and doubles the time!
I know it's cringy, but it's time for me to dance with the angels
John Conner Cringe level 8492
@@RedBaronAce0207 No the cringe actually does exist
John Conner I know.
RedBaronAce 0207
Okayyy
THE FUCK DOES IT EVEN MEAN
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one, now go dance with the angels
Hello there!
*Ding*
@@hazmatt3250 (Obi-Wan's voice): "Oh, it's you!"
Wrong universe Palpatine
"Normal Gangs: "Don't mess with us again or u gon' die b@#$%"
Gangs of Emmerian children: *Prepare to Dance With The Angels motherf-cker*
38:48 You know, I think since Shamrock lived anyway, it would be better narrative-wise to kill off *Talisman.* You know, the player character for once doesn't make it, but his irreversible sacrifice makes him look different from all other faceless player characters. And they wouldn't even have to change the final cutscene, it would just be interpreted more bitter-sweetenly than if Talisman lived.
20:28 As the Strigons took casualties, Estovakia aggregated what was left of Strigon with Vampire Team, who had originially been commanded by Ilya Pasternak.
27:36 Everyone was waiting either out of radar range of the Stovies or on the ground ready to scramble to Exfil Garuda if need be.
29:52 The Bridge is the pride of Gracemeria, the Golden King is the pride of Emmeria.
21:11 I *still* can't get over how cringy that line is. Here's a line Shamrock should have said that would have also referenced Ace Combat 5 (as the Razgriz Straits also appears in this game)
"Into the deep blue grave. May the Razgriz have mercy on your soul."
Was it that hard to come up with a line other than what we got here...?
To be fair, coming up with badass and poetic lines in the moment like that is pretty hard in real life.
@@JaelinBezel Dude, he coulda said "Rest in pieces, bitch" and it would have been better.
Fun fact: Aigiaon is a god of the sea in some mythology.
Razgriz has no mercy.
Razgriz would devour their souls deep in the sea
Oh especially that Mine who got the name butchered to hell, Razuriz?? Sounded like a mistranslation but ok, i mean imagine this game like mention Razgriz for one or more time. Yeah anyway Chandelier's placement is pretty much not that far from Hrimfaxi's grave
26:40 "Private dancers" refers to mercenaries, possibly as a jab at Ace Combat Zero.
I mean don’t squadrons from zero show up
They still technically are private dancers for the military, though 😛
I thought you would sin this line: "Don't get overeager! Just do what you always do!"
What an Ace Combat veteran hears: "So, don't kill everything, but do kill everything."
also: "just do what you always do"
so, they have a war every weekend or something?
@@pajamas720 Tbf that's probably the case in the strangereal universe
14:15 Hannibal's crossing the alps again I see...
@Tor_Dizz History Geeks are my favorite people haha
If Melissa said "Can you hear me" and Mihaly said "Can you hear me" as well...
**develops theories**
...Is Mihaly Melissa's HUSBAND?!
I'm just kidding. Good job with this video. Hilarious to the sight.😂
But remember, mihaly said he downed many pilots lol
@@jamesharris4695 and Melissa's husband got downed by A pilot. And Mihaly said he downed lots of pilots.
*develops theories*
...Mihaly shot down Melissa's husband
🤣
@@152mmapfsds seems legit
Psssh. Obviously Melissa IS Mihaly!
guys, its obvious. Mihaly is Melissa's wife
11:18 that whole side plot is a Kelly's heroes reference and a lot of militaries let criminals in to exchange time in prison for service and very notably the US army
Should've put "CHOOOOOPPEEEEEER!" instead of matilda at the very end there
This is Ace Combat 6, not Ace Combat 5
This was the first game of the ace combat series I had ever played and I fell in love with the universe and the story. I know it has many flaws, and I would be one of the first to call it out if asked, but this game still holds a special place in my heart. I played it for so long, I loved the characters and the different units you would interact with, some staying with you all the way to the liberation off Gracemeria. One thing I sorely miss is the operations. To me, it felt like I was part of a bigger cause, with massive ground battles and ariel fights that could be swung in favor by the player. There were so many little stories within the campaign that I loved to explore it. I understand that this game is not everyone's favorite, but I just wanted to say that I loved this game and all of the massive set-piece battles, the characters, and units. It brought me into the franchise and I intend to continue to be a loyal supporter of this franchise for many years to come!
I couldn't help but say "You right" throughout the video even when I played I didn't think that hard about alot of the plot errors and laughable dialogue but I still love the game
I find the "how come they didn't detect the surprise attack" pretty odd when it was explained that one of the aigaion's support craft has jamming abilities
Ace 6 is the reason I preordered Ace 7 for the XB1 as well as the PS4. It's my favorite game out of the series
AC: 5 was by far my favorite, but 6 was a good one.
@@titanicww2345 I've got the 360 disc, but I could never get the Xbone to read it
@@titanicww2345 Probably, but Project Aces is one of the few developers that still have my respect. So I don't mind buying the extra copy
Same, except it's for AC5 on the PS4
+1 Ace 6 has so far the best sense of battlefield.
All of the Strigons have the number 009 painted on it lol
“No one makes mention of the legendary fairytale”
1 second later.
“Holy S*** I stand corrected.”
Best line of entire video
....now. If you ever make the EWW for Ace Combat 7 in the future..
I have a prediction..
*The sin of that game will be less than 50.*
365 sins for every year it was delayed kek
You means factorial 50, i guessed ?
I'll be back here when the prediction proves false. Even the best games have some number of sins, my friend. The question is, are you willing to look past them?
@@oneofmanyparadoxfans5447 Well we all wage War with the past, and it leaves its scars. But hopefully it will not be a nuclear one cutting Erusea in half...
@@oneofmanyparadoxfans5447 This this this this this. Ace Combat is one of my favorite franchises. That's why I love making these videos so much XD
15:00 If we take Ace Combat 7 VR Mode into consideration, it's possible for Mobius 1 to take part in the Selumna Peak mission. I'm sure the IUN-PKF had little involvement in the Emmeria-Estovakia war. After all, it IS an international peacekeeping force.
34:52 chandelier is actually mounted on a floating iceberg that can turn AND move. so yeah, it CAN move. "Estovakia chose to construct the weapon on a glacier, which would allow it to rotate and sail to different locations."
There should be a sin for every time you hear the enemy say “Get him, head right once more!” in a single play through.
See, AC6 is all about STORY
S - Go
T - Dance
O - With
R - The
Y - Angels
*Ding*
Bruh, I saved Gracemaria from a giant rail-gun and this is what I get.
@@titanicww2345 Appreciated
Garuda 1 thanks wish the rest of your squad mates talk normally or not dull as a rock in intelligence or take ya credit
@@titanjakob1056 I still can't believe I'm not in the Lighthouse war right now (AC7).
Garuda 1 don’t worry you’ll get another day to shine talisman
I still use your emblem on my aircraft in honor of you. And for irl, my water bottle
40 minutes of pure gold
true
I have laughed hard even i have not Ace Combat...
I know some of you guys were hoping for me to sin "DON'T WALK" right at the end of the game. That one got cut in favor of... well... the rant I ended up with XD Please remember that most sins got cut for time, as these are long videos!
Danggit Sly i got to go to school by 7am (Singapore)
@@AzureanSky Sorry! There's no way to make it easy for everyone worldwide D:
@@AzureanSky Bro you and me both
39:41 insert "all try spinning thats a good trick".
Go dancing with the angels
This video is wrong. There is nothing wrong with Ace Combat 6.
Go dance with the angels.
*ding*
Ba - dum - tss
*this comment is in opposite*
This is something only PositronCannon would say
Did u want to kill him or what?
33:33 Nitpick, pretty sure that was in reference to the "banter' between Shamrock and Avalanche as a bit of a joke since that's in the same area code you're flying in. So Windhover was making fun of Avalanche and Shamrock I think.
At the time I was so excited about this game...but I've got to admit, I almost thought you'll never sin this game.
Gave me a good laugh, good work!
Aaaaayyyy...
*CLICK
NOICE
Edit: 15 years ago FTW!
I'm pretty sure Chandelier actually can move on its own. It's built onto a massive ice shelf, and you can definitely see what looks like a gigantic propulsion system (The wikia states that they installed a Magneto-hydrodynamic drive) at the back of it during the mission. How else would it have been able to engage the asteroids (If it was completed in time) if it was stuck facing one direction? It's basically a gigantic ship made out of ice, with the superweapon constructed on top of it.
Well, one nitpick- pilots generally are more risqué with nose art but it's also true that the amount of clothes is directly proportional to the distance from a major civilian presence. In the capital, this is what I'd expect. Out in the desert where no one is you get naked ladies (except not anymore irl because apparently it offends the locals- more than using said planes to drop bombs on their countrymen in fact).
Well the Nation of Islam does have a particular thing against female vanity but seriously guys: priorities.
Personally, when Shamrock went down, GhostEye losing his composure and calling Shamrock by his real name stuck out to me. I thought the emotion in that was nailed perfectly.
"Generic schoolbus is generic"
What the fuck is it gonna be then a tactical school bus?
I'd also like to point out that whenever there are cruise missile attacks they come from the North by Northeast part of the map. Which doesn't make sense given that the Aigaion is to the South.
Also for the radar detection issue in mission 9 I would guess it's because the 112's wings are so long it blocks of the front left/right or center of the Kottos aircraft; which subsequently does the same to the Gyges as seen in the cutscene.
The Aigaion is only to the south during the mission we shoot it down. Remember, the thing flies.
@@SlyAceZeta it's also at sea during mission 1 per the cutscene, and the missiles still come from the North which is the opposite direction.
I think that maybe the bridge is meant to be the pride of the city, while the Golden King is the pride of the country.
Looking forward to the EML spamming sin
I like how any line that is "Dance with the Angels" gets automatically sinned after the first few times and basically becomes the running gag of the video XD
I have to play this game, but every time they say "dance with the angels" or something like that, I'll drink a shot of vodka
rip
"There's not enough vodka-"
16:22 Funnily enough the drones *are* rendered (and possibly functioning) in the first mission. I know because in one of my playthroughs, I had one fly in front of me for a few moments before flying off and then an orange bubble appeared on the radar roughly where the "black flying thing" that I saw would have been after leaving my fov.
37:54 Aight hold on here, of all times to say the moment was ruined, I just cannot understand at all choosing the part where the eternally-happy and collected AWACS breaks character, loses his cool completely for the only time in the game and screams for the dude not by callsign but by name. If anything that drove it in deeper for me.
Me, whos favorite Ace Combat game is Ace combat 4:
Me playing Ace Combat 6: Oh wow thats alot of planes refuel-- BITCH WHO THE FUCK DID I JUST HERE
Just in case if you watch this on mobile phone, sin at 2:51 indicates that your wingman fires a missile right next to you. This is what it confused me for quite a long time (and why Sly sinned it while I don't see or hear shit) since phones are not sensitive to hear some or particular SFX, but computer speakers can.
24:20 This bugged the piss out of me the first time I played this game...and still does. I'm supposed to be Garuda *1*, as in the one who gives Garuda *2* orders, but this is the one time where the game forces me to help Garuda 2 disobey orders from AWACS.
So wait...the officer guy lost TWO briefcases in enemy territory, and yet they still entrusted him with classified information on their last-ditch, possibly-win-the-war superweapon?!
I love this game; regardless of it's flaws.
SlyCooperFan1,
I don't think you should have sinned the cutscene where the dude says, "Back to the sea you go. May you rest... in quiet slumber." Aigaion is the name the son of Gaia. He rules over the seas storms. The dude was obviously referencing this. The reference also fits pretty well since the heavy command cruiser caused a 'storm' wherever nimbus launched. "Back to the sea you go." - Referencing Greek Aiagion. "May you rest in quiet slumber." - Basically telling the cruiser and the myth to stop creating storms. The info is on Acepedia too, which is where I got it from.
If anything, I think a sin should have been taken off for the reference, as it was a good line imo. Yes, not many people will get the reference, but if they want to know why the reference exists, they would search it up and find out about Aigaion in the mythos. Learning/Knowledge should never be sinned.
SlyCooperFan1 Sin count +1
Further more, Chandelier is NOT Stuck in place. It's a giant iceberg ship, you can see the path it took to turn around and face Gracemeria on the map. AND you can see the giant engine on the back!!!
SlyCooperFan1 Sin count +2
I believe the point of Shamrock flying into the tunnel was to get data for AWACS. AWACS didn't have any data on the backup cooling unit, so Shamrock flew down and got either a camera shot or radar data on the cooling unit.
Yeah. But Greece doesn't exists in their universe ;)
@@razrayk8470 True, but myths and legends can easily be adapted to suit another world.
13:38 I bet his name is another Namco arcade reference just like Sky Kid, and yeaaaah I bet instead of eating his salad on lunch , he SMOKED the salad 😂😂😂😂😂
I’m just gonna say this now. Galm 1 may not necessarily be Cipher. Its been like 20 years since we last saw him so maybe someone took over from him.
Wouldn't it be more efficient for the bus/train to drop the refugees off as soon as they are reasonably safe and then go back for more people who are still in the conflict zone. Far more people can be evacuated in a short time if you use this method.
Holy shit I always thought Melissa was Tallisman's wife. WHAAAT
Missed the oportunity of doing a bonus round sinning every "Go dance with the angels" instead of sinning them individually kinda How cinema sins does in some videos.
If you think about "Go dance with an angel" as the equivalent to "Go F*ck yourself", the game gets better. Specially when Matilda says the sentence to her mom prior to departing toward the King's Castle.
Sin 233: The Boltzmann Treaty is maybe referring to the unnamed treaty mentioned in the pre-mission briefing that multiple nations signed together that prohibited any further development of Anti-Asteroid Superweapons due to its potential for evil. Given what happened with Stonehenge, Fortress Intolerance, and Megalith, this seems to be plausible. However, that should still be sinned, because the treaty should have been named. We have another treaty that was only brought up once, but it still got named: The Treaty of Lumen, that (mostly) ended the Belkan War.
27:53 - Literally my favourite thing in the game. Also: (Shamrock gets it) "Shamrock, respond!! Marcus, MARCUS!!!1" ...(Talisman gets it) "(stoic)Garuda 1 down."
About those machine guns, considering that the plane we saw were A-10s and probably their unseen escorts. It’s semantic but it’s not even machine gun, it’s a bloody autocannon. I’m more astounded that a civilian vehicle engine was able to survive a hit from either 20, 25, or 30mm autocannon and got them that far, a much more acceptable explanation would be that the engine was hit by the fragments from those strafing aircrafts.
27:49 "I've been looking forward to this"
Damn, I wanted to see "Emmerian pilot does not have access to classified foreign military files" in the tunnel part. :P
And the Anea landing mission makes me wonder why the soon to be recaptured oil reserves that could be used by friendly logistics are targets...
And Chandelier seems mobile to me, floating on that massive iceberg. (Also the song fits with the Estovakians' mood IMO as well.)
Anyway, good game.
I wonder if Sly would add sins for everytime someone says "Can you hear me" in Ace Combat 7
When a flight of planes is to take off in wartime, many airforces only clear the plane at the front of the formation to take off. This is because several flights could be on the runway simultaneously and it's just a waste of time to call out individual flights.
I didn't know this was something I wanted. Thank you very much for sinning one of my favorite series.
In an odd twist, the manual for the game reveals why the Estovakians went to war against Emmeria in the first place-back when Estovakia looked more like the wild west, the Emmerians sent humanitarian aid to help the innocents, most of which ended up falling into a warlord who infamously threatened to starve 250,000 people caught in the crossfire until the other factions gave him what he wanted. When the Emmerians found out, they stopped...only to get back at it again a year later, even though they were fully aware that this was a thing, not that it mattered when the guy was defeated by the faction who won the civil war after 5 long years.
The Estovakians (or at least the Generals) have a valid reason to hate Emmeria due to this. Of course, this is never communicated in the game itself, even when we see through the eyes of the Intelligence Officer, so it looks like a Black and White conflict when it really isn't.
It's not as black and white as that, either. We have the information on the wiki. Thing is, though, Cinema Sins always says "the books do not matter" in regards to movies made from books, so I follow the same sort of rule of ignoring outside lore for the most part.
I loved every second of the video Sly, you did an amazing job, and yeah, calling out every sin in this game would probably be a 2 hours long video :D
Tbh, English is not my native language but I would've added a sin for how they constantly say "this thing"...I always thought it sounded weird, especially since the usual formula is to just say "this", like "This isn't over yet" instead of "this thing isn't over yet"
I dunno, I loved the Chandelier music and thought it fit with the frigid desolate area the gun is in.
Also, I always thought the guy loading the Stauros shells sounded cool, not sure why - maybe it's the radio distortion used in his dialogue.
36:55 did you expect that we _could_ destroy those *hypervelocity** shells?
*yes, electromagnetic railguns have muzzle velocity over 3-6 km/s
Ah, no. Those missle on the carousel below the gun
*yes, that a sin*
35:55 "can you hear me?"
"Trigger can you hear me?"
Wait.
Wait the joke's been made on the bloopers woops.
38:50 Nitpick again, Shamrock definitely wasn't dead from his crash. In my mind his "death" scene was so poorly delivered, the game was handing hints that he'd be able to land his F-15 on the glacier. When he mentioned "angel wings" I figured it was some stupid way to say "ok, I'll just glide and crash land" . . . I was 16 when I inferred that. So this cutscene twist I was like "Oh, look a dude with the face in a wheelchair that isn't Estovakian. That's Sham-fuck".
I never understood how they used "Dance with the Angels". They constantly throw it as an insult, but then they tell their friends to dance with the angels as encouragement, and cheerfully talk about how they're dancing with the angels. What kind of insult is this?
Maybe the meaning changes based on the tone, kinda like "go screw yourself!" Can be either playful/endearing if said in a light tone, or an insult.
Not defending it or anything though. Everytime my wingman said that stupid line, I honestly made an effort to blow him out of the sky with the EML.
Interestingly enough, the game DOES render the drones in the first mission when the nimbus missiles are launched. If you manage to kill most of the enemies in the area, you’ll see unmarked aircraft flying around since theres nothing to hide them. You can kill them, and the game registers it, but nothing else happens.
I was hoping to see a sin for the Strigon AI on Bartolomeo, lol! Anyway awesome job as always, fortunately the game is so awesome gameplay- and graphic-wise that i can ignore that horrible writing!
And if he's no good with directions, how is he still in the military?
You've never served in the Military. Officers that aren't good with directions are pretty common.
*GO DANCE WITH THE ANGELS intensifies*
Project ACES/Bandai Namco has the same hard on for the number 15 that Bungie had for 7. 15 years between the Belkan War and the Circum Pacific War, 15 years between the First and Second Continental Wars, 15 years between Ulyssess and Chandelier's destruction.
Just finished this game, it´s honestly pretty awesome.
There are multiple pronunciations to Strigon. It does not matter.
And yes, the drones are rendered in the 1st mission. You can see and hit them, but invincible.
Yohyus, I... LOVE the TH-cam Premiere system! *;^D*
I think it's fine for special, lengthy or one-off stuff like this.
I didn't even realize "Blue Max" was a Namco reference. He comes up right after a line by "Red Baron", and "Blue Max" is a nickname for the highest military award of Imperial Germany, the "Pour le Merite", essentially equivalent to the Medal of Honor or the Victoria Cross.
man.... the writing in this game is just bad.
kingofmonsters14 it’s partly why I actually enjoy the series, it’s just over the top Hollywood style action that makes you feel like a badass fighter pilot out of top gun, realism isn’t a factor for me in this game
@@george_3264 yeah, but compared to the rest of the series like Unsung War or even Joint Assault, the writing in this game is just.... bad.
@@george_3264 Yeah, Zero is my favorite in the series for its humanity. It hits just the right balance between being sincere and not being whiny.
As much hate as AH gets, the writing in that was much better than this.
@@kingofmonsters14 Very few characters with focus act like human beings. Like when Melissa and Matilda are finally reunited in Gracemaria's liberation, any human mother and daughter would be hugging each other fiercely and crying of joy. Instead, they decided to regurgitate the "dance with the angels" thing again, rather than having a real, organic moment of emotion. With the exception of Shamrock in some places and the general guy with the kids, the whole game seems to be seeped in unnatural interactions like this. It takes you out of the moment and just reminds you that this is all fictional and makes you wonder why you should care about any of them when there's barely two identifiably human characters in the whole game.
Also in Ragno Fortress, the tunnel operation and the Windhover operation are listed as start positions 2 and 3 respectively, but in the mission they are switched around and they are C and B