Kissinger upset - US bombing in Vietnam compared to Nazi war crimes

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  • @srlind2835
    @srlind2835 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    We miss you Olof Palme!

  • @theredmoose2084
    @theredmoose2084  ปีที่แล้ว +59

    It’s funny how Kissinger, Nixon and the Americans display the typical tough guy behavior here: bully someone weaker but start moaning and whining as soon as someone says anything critical.
    Thinking that it’s bad to massacre civilians is “insensitive” and “self-righteous”, apparently.

    • @iand4374
      @iand4374 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Israel does the same thing too

    • @theredmoose2084
      @theredmoose2084  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Indeed they do, the small and the big imperialist resemble eachother

    • @iand4374
      @iand4374 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theredmoose2084 colonialist arrogance, they can do no wrong and every civilian they kill is "collateral damage l"

    • @gasmaster8437
      @gasmaster8437 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      We didn't like being compared to the Nazis cause we fought them... which gives us license to do whatever we want...?

  • @vasquca1
    @vasquca1 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    He died but his method of diplomacy lives on.

    • @theredmoose2084
      @theredmoose2084  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yeah, you just have to look at all the people celebrating him and his actions.

    • @LumièreRoteFahne
      @LumièreRoteFahne 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      sadly yes.

  • @lascausasocultas
    @lascausasocultas 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Palme was a pain in the ass for the empire

    • @theredmoose2084
      @theredmoose2084  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      He was and that was one of the best things about him. He used the fact that Sweden didn’t have to follow the American line completely to actually make some independent statements and policies.

  • @eldrago19
    @eldrago19 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "Kissinger died at the ripe old age of not soon enough."
    - John Oliver

    • @theredmoose2084
      @theredmoose2084  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Did he actually say that? Sounds a bit too spicy for him.

    • @eldrago19
      @eldrago19 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@theredmoose2084he did actually say it (you can find it on TH-cam). It surprised me as well.

  • @fappe908
    @fappe908 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    He then was epsteined…

    • @theredmoose2084
      @theredmoose2084  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      He had many enemies. But whoever killed him, it surely wasn’t the random drug addict and probably not the other guy out forward either.

    • @fappe908
      @fappe908 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@theredmoose2084 it for sure was not pettersson, i have an older friend who was a captain on a ship and generally worked for ballers high up in the drug game, he was part of the finer circles of stockholm at the time. this dude was friends with hugh hefner for example. According to him petterson was a known nobody, smalltime petty drunk.
      But palme was no saint he had done bad stuff too and he probably had dirt on a lot of politicians, i am 100 % sure it was because he was a threat to the powers that be.

    • @francisdec1615
      @francisdec1615 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Pettersson had murdered a person before, though. It's a bit like the JFK case - it seems so unlikely that a "nobody" can just shoot the mightiest person in the country. But why not?

    • @theredmoose2084
      @theredmoose2084  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You're right that a nobody can do that, but you don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to see that there was a lot of fishy things happening around the Kennedy murder too.

  • @GuyFromSweden01
    @GuyFromSweden01 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I was wondering if I could upload this video on my account, I will give you credit, I promise comrade

    • @theredmoose2084
      @theredmoose2084  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey, I’m just wondering - why do you want to upload it too?

    • @GuyFromSweden01
      @GuyFromSweden01 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theredmoose2084 I want to spread these types of videos

  • @doltecbyal
    @doltecbyal 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In the first Indo-China war the Vietnamese people just wanted to run their own country, not be a colony of France (who has quite a cruel history of colonialism). But the USA sided with France in trying to crush their independence. After the first Indo-China war the north and south were supposed to hold elections in 1956 and the results were supposed to form a united Vietnam. Practically everyone in the USA government and CIA, and likely most other western governments, knew the Vietnamese people would overwhelmingly vote for Ho Chi Minh because he was so popular. But instead the USA and its buddy countries supported Ngo Dinh Diem who refused to hold elections, which ultimately led to the Vietnam war. Ngo Dinh Diem, the USA and the west went against the will of the Vietnamese people and that is essentially what caused the Vietnam war. The USA government and the plutocracy that controls it has never cared about democracy or human rights or "freedom", they are liars and hypocrites and have been willing to commit or overlook mass murder and war crimes so long as it fits with their own "interests". And they are still like that today. Kissinger was a war criminal, and for him to say Mr Palme was "insensitive" was an outrageous hypocrisy.

    • @theredmoose2084
      @theredmoose2084  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There’s a lot of information in here but all I can say is Yes.

  • @jelivb
    @jelivb ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Den bästa svenska statsministern!

    • @theredmoose2084
      @theredmoose2084  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Vad gäller utrikespolitik finns det nog ingen som kan ha varit bättre, faktiskt. En fascinerande människa överlag också.

    • @jelivb
      @jelivb 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@theredmoose2084 Jag har Palme inramad i min rum💀 (Älskar dina videor)

    • @theredmoose2084
      @theredmoose2084  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Tack, det var fint att höra. Och tack till dig för att du tittar på dem!

  • @adamesd3699
    @adamesd3699 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The thing I never understood about US policy in Vietnam was WHY? It was not just a losing war, not just an unwinnable war, but a mistake. There was no clear reason for the US to even fight the war.
    Yeah, it made some weapons makers and others a ton of money, and some military types and a few politicians got ahead in life because of it, but is that really enough for a global superpower to shoot itself in the foot so spectacularly?
    Then again the USSR did the same thing a few years later in Afghanistan. And then the US went right back into the trap in Afghanistan and Iraq, so there seems to be some kind of draw for countries make these costly strategic errors. Israel is doing that right now in Gaza.

    • @royalyoung9170
      @royalyoung9170 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      There is a good reason to them, you say it in your paragraph. These things happen because they benefit certain members of the bourgeoisie, they're not "strategic errors" or mistakes. They may be catastrophic to the working class but it makes the capitalists rich and that's reason enough for these things to be done.

    • @theredmoose2084
      @theredmoose2084  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I’m no expert and there is of course a lot written and filmed about the Vietnam war, but I think it’s good to remember that the US had done a similar thing before and succeeded.
      Korea was also divided up into a north and a south and then a war was fought to keep the communists from taking the whole country, and it worked that time. Turned out Vietnam wasn’t the same though.

    • @adamesd3699
      @adamesd3699 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ⁠@@theredmoose2084I actually had thought of the Korean War as I wrote my comment. But in reality, while the two cases had some similarities, there were also significant differences.
      For example, the Korean War was a clear conventional invasion of South Korea by North Korea. The Vietnam war was very different, in that the South Vietnamese government was fighting a powerful insurgency with strong grass-roots support, and this insurgency was supported by North Vietnam. Up until the Tet Offensive, most of the fighting was against the Viet Cong, so South Vietnamese on South Vietnamese.
      Also, there wasn’t even supposed to be a North and South Vietnam. There were supposed to be elections across all of Vietnam when the French withdrew after their defeat at Dien Bien Phu. The US blocked the elections in the South because they knew that Ho Chi Minh would win and US policy was commies bad bad. So the South Vietnamese government was never seen by the South Vietnamese populace as actually legitimate.

    • @vasquca1
      @vasquca1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      US diplomacy boils down to one thing 💰

    • @theredmoose2084
      @theredmoose2084  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@vasquca1 Money and influence, yeah. The usual story.

  • @Kamrat35
    @Kamrat35 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Tänk, ett Sverige med integritet. Vilken främmande tanke i dag.

    • @theredmoose2084
      @theredmoose2084  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Det fick en liten comeback när Sverige erkände Palestina 2014 och var först i EU. Men ja, det fanns en tid när Sverige på riktigt vågade ta egna utrikesbeslut.

  • @Healingmusicformindandsoul
    @Healingmusicformindandsoul 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What if Palme took care of his own country and America did the same? So funny that no one think longer then their nose.

    • @theredmoose2084
      @theredmoose2084  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      At least they made sure to bring a bunch of guys who just happened to all wear hard hats, to show that they represented The Average American.