Thank you so much for posting this! Pretty sure I am having lymphatic drainage issues as I can feel the small lumps just under my skin. I have fibromyalgia but never realized it might be connected to lymphatic drainage issues, and am going to start trying this. I tried to find a Perrin Technique practitioner in my area but there are none. Will this still work for me even though I will have to do it all on my own and won’t be working at all with a practitioner?
hello, it still can help, and I know some people have added in Bee Breathing, from you Tube, which is a yoga breathing method, and the two have helped. Can you let me know where you live? www.osteopilates.co.uk. Hopefully you can do the short version from our video as well as the long one.
Hi! Thanks for this video. I live in France/paris and here there is no perrin practioner. I have long covid. Is the method you show sufficient please? Thanks
It certainly will help you, and my sister, managed to recover, by adding in Yoga Bee breathing every day and really pacing herself for 8 to 12 weeks. It really depends on how long you have been unwell and how unwell you currently are.
@@breakspearclinic9438 thank you! I am unwell since 2 years. I have mast cell activation syndrome, food intolerances, extreme fatigue, heat intolerance, digestive issues, low blood pressure, brain fog, vestibular issues, insomnia, pem. I cant go out alone, but at home. I can do my meals, shower, some cleaning for example. I have to pace a lot. So happy for your sister. So perrin method and yoga only or she did take medications or doing orher things? Thanks
@@naimoulinakibarde1995 i think it is important to realise that she only did the yoga bee breathing, not yoga, and the big difference is that she only had long covid for a few months. The Perrin Method, self massage, short and long version may well help you. and will not harm you. If you do not have a Perrin Practitioner in France / Paris, it may be possible for Uk pracitioer to visit once a week, if there are a number of people needing and wanting help. Please e mail us at Racheladjuvo@gmail.com
@@breakspearclinic9438 thank you for the information, i will check if there are other persons interested in the method. I started doing the method at home and noticed a lot of fatigue. I think it means that it works and that i have a lot of toxins in me Thank you
Hi Andy, i look after a friend who is bed bound with POTS and CFS. How often would you recommend doing this technique? We have managed to get the tachycardia under control for POTS but the CFS is still playing havoc on her. I have the Book the Perrin Technique on the way but havent had a chance to study/read it yet. thank you for the very informative video. She also cant lie on her stomach so ill have to work on her back not completely on her side. regards Steve.
Hello, thank you for your comments. The short routine can be done twice or three times a day, and the long routine once a day, before night time sleep. Sitting up or side lying is fine for the back, it does not have to be done with the person o. Their front. 😊
Thank you for your kind comment. We would be very happy to follow up on your helpful suggestion. It will probably be next week when we can do that for you. We can video anything suggested that might help you or anyone else. We will do what ever we can to help.
Thanks for being so kind as to share this technique. 😊 I've been chronically fatigued for 5 years and just watched an interview with Dr Perrin yesterday, so very keen to try this. 🙏 Have you been able to make a video demonstrating using a brush for the back work at all? Thank you. ✨
@@breakspearclinic9438 Thank you for your reply. I'm in New Zealand and not aware of any Osteopath's using this technique. Do you know if Dr Perrin has trained anyone "Down Under"? (There's nothing on his website for NZ.) Thank you.
@@breakspearclinic9438Hi Dr. I’ve been severe the last 8 yrs. I used to be a research biologist. I’ve been looking for answers all this time and finally came across Dr Perrin. I’m in upstate central eastern, NY. There is nobody near me that is trained in this. However, I’ve found a DO with the help of my new primary care physician. I hope she will be willing to read his book and try the process with me. I am by myself but have finally been approved to get a home health aide, who I’m hoping can help me do the at home version. Thank you very much
I just came across your wonderful videos today and will definitely try this! I am just wondering about the roller or brush for the back. I see someone else has asked about it before. Were you able to make a video illustrating it? If not, will the treatment still be effective even if I can't do the back part?
marianne a patient - Alan Rastelli - demonstrates this in his youtube video. It's not hard to do - just be very gentle, make sure there's no skin drag. Run the brush/roller with light pressure in a line an inch out from the spinal column. I would include this step 1 x per day.
Hello Sir, Thank you so much for this video. Has this helped any long covid issues like non refreshing sleep ? I have been facing that for last 2 years, I sleep but when I wake up I dont feel refreshed
Yes it has. There is a short video you do three times a day and the long before bed. It will not harm and has helped very many. You can look in to the Perrin Method of Osteopathy also
Yes you can do them lying down. The self massage will help, and will not harm. I do know a lady who got better by the self massage with Bee breathing and pacing. BUT each person is different, so it is not possible to know how much it will help you.
Thank you for your question. The only option is to get a long handled soft brush and to use that to reach the back. If you cannot get one, it is still helpful to do the other areas.
Does this make people feel sick afterwords, like a hangover feeling? Massage in general will make me feel ill for a few hours or a day or two. Will this have the same effect? I am just wondering so I can plan on resting afterwards, as well as avoid doing this before I need to be active.
Hi Stephanie. Thanks for your question. The reactions to the Perrin Technique self treatment routines can vary but yes, it can make you feel nauseous afterwards. This isn't always straight away but can often be the next day or even up to 36 hours or so later. The theory behind this is that as you increase the glymphatic and lymphatic drainage rate, this places an increased demand on the liver to process waste products (as it would after having alcohol) which can result in the feeling of nausea. Taking Milk Thistle or ginger, which are liver-supportive, whilst you are feeling bad can be helpful in reducing the severity of symptoms, plus of course ensuring that you drink plenty of water. Hope that helps. Best regartds, Andy
Massage used to do that to me also! I’d be sick for at least the evening and next day after a massage. But the more I did them, my health improved and I now get energized from massage.
Hello, Dr Raymond Perrin recommends the short routine three times a day and the long one before bed time at night. It is fine to go ahead, as it is always very gentle. You do not need to build up to it. 😊
Thanks for the video! Do you need to use oil? Is there anything else less messy that can be used? If oil is the only/best option, would regular massage oil do?
Thank you for asking. No oil is required. It is light finger tip brushing action. If you want to use oil then the most plain and simple oil is best with no smell added. 😊
I saw Dr Perrin a matter of months ago and he said yes you MUST use plenty of oil. I said it's messy and he said you can do more harm than good not using it!🤷♂️
@@elizabethaughton2449 Makes no sense to me. I’d need to have the rational explained. Far too many of us with ME/CFS can’t shower very often and so oiling up becomes an issue.
@madisonheights396 well that's what he told me in the flesh. I think it's to do with friction and surface layer fascia. I'm the same, I can't shower often, a bout every 2 weeks. I go to a lady who works at Dr P's clinic and she simply oils me up then wipes it off with a towel, so I do the same at home.
Thank you for your comment re female patients, it is the same sequence for men and women as this is where the lymphatic vessels reside. The middle breast area can be done by the patients themselves.
It would be great to see the technique done by a woman, especially for women with larger than the average breast size. Lymph drainage massage videos with women are all done with women with similar body types but none show with larger than average breast size. I feel underrepresented.
Hello. It is not possible to diagnose with out you seeing a Perrin Trained Osteopath, or Dr Perrin himself. He lives and works in Manchester UK. The self massage routine will not harm you, and is very gentle and pleasant. It may well help and you could try it for a few weeks ( long and short routine) and see. 👍😊
Yesterday I try one self lymphatic drainage massage following a video.For few months I didn't have much neck stiffness issue and head weird heaviness.but yesterday I felt neck stiffness and jaw pains...today I follow your videos..After following this simple massage..I feel head heaviness too after so many months.. Maybe long COVID is issue of lymphatic drainage.
What is happening with the toxins, how do you get rid if them ehen your movement is little? Drink extra a lot? Why do this in the evening? Thank you🙏❤️
Thank you for your question. The liver will process and take the toxins away. Drinking a healthy amount is important, but do not over drink. If you want to read Dr Raymond Perrins book or listen to him on You Tube, you may find that helpful.
Interesting..not come across this before! Best thing for autoimmune issues like CFS is the AIP protocol. There are videos on TH-cam to explain. Changing my lifestyle in such a way has helped me hugely. 😊
With respect I was already eating like that and extremely physically active. That won’t cure ME/CFS. I have a severe case. Yes you need to eat well and stay away from inflammatory foods, but this is a Neurolymphatic procedure. I recommend you look up Dr Raymond Perrin and listen to him explain. Eating well will not make your mitochondria healthy and functional again.
I just started the perrin technique Im worried about doing the back massage properly, i have a long back brush but its so hard to get below the spine and then up to the shoulder in a straight line without hurting the shoulder. I dont have the option of having someone do it for me. Is there a better product then a back brush? Im worried this if i dont do this effectively its all worthless
Jason, if the handle of the back brush is long, it may make it easier. It is not worth doing it if it hurts your shoulder. If you can only do a little bit of the back by not going to the point it is difficult or hurting, that would be best. If you can not do any of the back with the brush at this time, it is still worth doing the other parts. Each bit will help. It is not a waste of time to do as much as you can of the routine. I do hope this answer helps.
hello Bee, unless we were with you and assessing, we can not be sure. However, it is also quite common to get that feeling as the lymphatic system is being aided to work, and this can then be a symptom of toxins being released. Be sure to go lightly, not heavily with the sequence. Think light Brushing only.
There is absolutely no technical sense in working over the nipples and stroking the breast. The lymph channels run in a completely different direction. In addition, the relevant techniques to move the lymph are missing. I am very sensitive to MLD but I don't feel anything here and my nervous system is being massively stressed instead. I would like to know a logical reason for the treatment in the wrong direction and that the nipples are not left out
Thank You for your comment. You are welcome to take up your desire to discuss this with the University of Manchester medical department or Dr Raymond Perrin himself, who can easily be contacted at his clinic in Manchester. 😊
If you are happy with what you were shown, and it is different to this, then stick with that. 😊This video as you can see has helped very many. Dr Raymond Perrin is happy with this video, but you may want to refer to his book, for further help. 😊
Thank you for this tutorial! It is helpful to follow along with
Thank You Veronica, you are very welcome.
Thank you so much for posting this! Pretty sure I am having lymphatic drainage issues as I can feel the small lumps just under my skin. I have fibromyalgia but never realized it might be connected to lymphatic drainage issues, and am going to start trying this. I tried to find a Perrin Technique practitioner in my area but there are none. Will this still work for me even though I will have to do it all on my own and won’t be working at all with a practitioner?
hello, it still can help, and I know some people have added in Bee Breathing, from you Tube, which is a yoga breathing method, and the two have helped. Can you let me know where you live? www.osteopilates.co.uk. Hopefully you can do the short version from our video as well as the long one.
Yes it is suitable for severe cases. The long routine can be done with someone helping you
Thank you for this generous video.
you are very welcome . please let us know if we can help in any other way.
Hi! Thanks for this video. I live in France/paris and here there is no perrin practioner. I have long covid. Is the method you show sufficient please? Thanks
It certainly will help you, and my sister, managed to recover, by adding in Yoga Bee breathing every day and really pacing herself for 8 to 12 weeks.
It really depends on how long you have been unwell and how unwell you currently are.
@@breakspearclinic9438 thank you!
I am unwell since 2 years. I have mast cell activation syndrome, food intolerances, extreme fatigue, heat intolerance, digestive issues, low blood pressure, brain fog, vestibular issues, insomnia, pem.
I cant go out alone, but at home. I can do my meals, shower, some cleaning for example. I have to pace a lot.
So happy for your sister. So perrin method and yoga only or she did take medications or doing orher things? Thanks
@@naimoulinakibarde1995 i think it is important to realise that she only did the yoga bee breathing, not yoga, and the big difference is that she only had long covid for a few months.
The Perrin Method, self massage, short and long version may well help you. and will not harm you.
If you do not have a Perrin Practitioner in France / Paris, it may be possible for Uk pracitioer to visit once a week, if there are a number of people needing and wanting help.
Please e mail us at Racheladjuvo@gmail.com
@@breakspearclinic9438 thank you for the information, i will check if there are other persons interested in the method.
I started doing the method at home and noticed a lot of fatigue. I think it means that it works and that i have a lot of toxins in me
Thank you
@@naimoulinakibarde1995maybe try to study brain retraining?
Hi Andy, i look after a friend who is bed bound with POTS and CFS. How often would you recommend doing this technique? We have managed to get the tachycardia under control for POTS but the CFS is still playing havoc on her. I have the Book the Perrin Technique on the way but havent had a chance to study/read it yet. thank you for the very informative video. She also cant lie on her stomach so ill have to work on her back not completely on her side. regards Steve.
Hello, thank you for your comments. The short routine can be done twice or three times a day, and the long routine once a day, before night time sleep. Sitting up or side lying is fine for the back, it does not have to be done with the person o. Their front. 😊
Hi Steve, my wife is in a similar situation, would love to know anything that helped with the POTS? Not sure how to message you direct on here. Chris
Thank you. It would be useful to have a demo of how to do the back with a roller or brush.
Thank you for your kind comment. We would be very happy to follow up on your helpful suggestion. It will probably be next week when we can do that for you. We can video anything suggested that might help you or anyone else. We will do what ever we can to help.
@@breakspearclinic9438 That's very kind of you. All the best.
Thanks for being so kind as to share this technique. 😊
I've been chronically fatigued for 5 years and just watched an interview with Dr Perrin yesterday, so very keen to try this. 🙏
Have you been able to make a video demonstrating using a brush for the back work at all?
Thank you. ✨
You are very welcome. We hope there is a qualified Osteopath near you, or that you can see Dr Perrin himself in Manchester
@@breakspearclinic9438 Thank you for your reply. I'm in New Zealand and not aware of any Osteopath's using this technique.
Do you know if Dr Perrin has trained anyone "Down Under"? (There's nothing on his website for NZ.) Thank you.
@@jog5289 hello. Please can you e mail me, at racheladjuvo@gmail.com 😊
@@breakspearclinic9438Hi Dr. I’ve been severe the last 8 yrs. I used to be a research biologist. I’ve been looking for answers all this time and finally came across Dr Perrin. I’m in upstate central eastern, NY. There is nobody near me that is trained in this. However, I’ve found a DO with the help of my new primary care physician. I hope she will be willing to read his book and try the process with me. I am by myself but have finally been approved to get a home health aide, who I’m hoping can help me do the at home version. Thank you very much
I just came across your wonderful videos today and will definitely try this! I am just wondering about the roller or brush for the back. I see someone else has asked about it before. Were you able to make a video illustrating it? If not, will the treatment still be effective even if I can't do the back part?
marianne a patient - Alan Rastelli - demonstrates this in his youtube video. It's not hard to do - just be very gentle, make sure there's no skin drag. Run the brush/roller with light pressure in a line an inch out from the spinal column. I would include this step 1 x per day.
Thank you very much Andy
You are very welcome.
Hello Sir, Thank you so much for this video. Has this helped any long covid issues like non refreshing sleep ? I have been facing that for last 2 years, I sleep but when I wake up I dont feel refreshed
Yes it has. There is a short video you do three times a day and the long before bed.
It will not harm and has helped very many.
You can look in to the Perrin Method of Osteopathy also
Make sure your mouth is closed when u sleep and when you breathe
Thank you thank you thank you!
You are very welcome 😊
Thank you very much, much appreciated.
Thank you 😊
Is this suitable for severe cases of cfs/me?
Is it ok to do these exercises without having treatment first?
Yes, totally. It will not harm, and it has helped many. It is also relaxing and pleasurable to do.
Can i do the nasal exercises lying down? Also can the self massage suffice in recovery if i dont have access to practioner?
Yes you can do them lying down. The self massage will help, and will not harm. I do know a lady who got better by the self massage with Bee breathing and pacing. BUT each person is different, so it is not possible to know how much it will help you.
Is this supposed to be for the lymph?
For more information please look at Dr Raymond Perrin’s methods on you tube or read his book. 😊
Is there any technology i can buy if its me by myself for the back area?
Thank you for your question. The only option is to get a long handled soft brush and to use that to reach the back. If you cannot get one, it is still helpful to do the other areas.
@@breakspearclinic9438 what about a electric massage wand? I have that at home
How to massage the back when there is no help? Is a brush with a long steel?
yes it is possible with a long-handled brush.🙂
Does this make people feel sick afterwords, like a hangover feeling? Massage in general will make me feel ill for a few hours or a day or two. Will this have the same effect? I am just wondering so I can plan on resting afterwards, as well as avoid doing this before I need to be active.
Hi Stephanie. Thanks for your question. The reactions to the Perrin Technique self treatment routines can vary but yes, it can make you feel nauseous afterwards. This isn't always straight away but can often be the next day or even up to 36 hours or so later. The theory behind this is that as you increase the glymphatic and lymphatic drainage rate, this places an increased demand on the liver to process waste products (as it would after having alcohol) which can result in the feeling of nausea. Taking Milk Thistle or ginger, which are liver-supportive, whilst you are feeling bad can be helpful in reducing the severity of symptoms, plus of course ensuring that you drink plenty of water. Hope that helps. Best regartds, Andy
Massage used to do that to me also! I’d be sick for at least the evening and next day after a massage. But the more I did them, my health improved and I now get energized from massage.
@@sonyafly Thank You for your comment
How often should you do this please? And do you have to start out slowly to begin with incase you release too many toxins at once.
Hello, Dr Raymond Perrin recommends the short routine three times a day and the long one before bed time at night.
It is fine to go ahead, as it is always very gentle. You do not need to build up to it. 😊
Which is the short routine please? Is it a separate video? Thank you very much
I'd not manage this as severe can barely lift my arms of not able to
I'd need very short routine in agony
Thanks for the video! Do you need to use oil? Is there anything else less messy that can be used? If oil is the only/best option, would regular massage oil do?
Thank you for asking. No oil is required. It is light finger tip brushing action. If you want to use oil then the most plain and simple oil is best with no smell added. 😊
I saw Dr Perrin a matter of months ago and he said yes you MUST use plenty of oil. I said it's messy and he said you can do more harm than good not using it!🤷♂️
@@elizabethaughton2449 Makes no sense to me. I’d need to have the rational explained. Far too many of us with ME/CFS can’t shower very often and so oiling up becomes an issue.
@madisonheights396 well that's what he told me in the flesh. I think it's to do with friction and surface layer fascia. I'm the same, I can't shower often, a bout every 2 weeks. I go to a lady who works at Dr P's clinic and she simply oils me up then wipes it off with a towel, so I do the same at home.
@@elizabethaughton2449 that's it exactly, friction and skin drag have to be avoided 100% if possible.
Thank you. It must be different for women though..?
Thank you for your comment re female patients, it is the same sequence for men and women as this is where the lymphatic vessels reside. The middle breast area can be done by the patients themselves.
It would be great to see the technique done by a woman, especially for women with larger than the average breast size. Lymph drainage massage videos with women are all done with women with similar body types but none show with larger than average breast size. I feel underrepresented.
Hello sir
I have jaw pain headache muscle weakness post COVID..is it because poor circulation around jaw and head
Hello. It is not possible to diagnose with out you seeing a Perrin Trained Osteopath, or Dr Perrin himself. He lives and works in Manchester UK. The self massage routine will not harm you, and is very gentle and pleasant. It may well help and you could try it for a few weeks ( long and short routine) and see. 👍😊
Thank you
Yesterday I try one self lymphatic drainage massage following a video.For few months I didn't have much neck stiffness issue and head weird heaviness.but yesterday I felt neck stiffness and jaw pains...today I follow your videos..After following this simple massage..I feel head heaviness too after so many months.. Maybe long COVID is issue of lymphatic drainage.
@@nazmamandair8910 i do not think it is possible for this very gentle routine to cause a neck problem.
What is happening with the toxins, how do you get rid if them ehen your movement is little? Drink extra a lot? Why do this in the evening? Thank you🙏❤️
Thank you for your question. The liver will process and take the toxins away. Drinking a healthy amount is important, but do not over drink. If you want to read Dr Raymond Perrins book or listen to him on You Tube, you may find that helpful.
How is getting your back massaged by someone else self massage?
Thank you for your question. That part can be done by using a long handled brush, yourself. I do hope that helps. 😊
@@breakspearclinic9438 👍Thank you, I will give it a go.
@@rl7012 lol. Gurl
What exactly is he doing with his hands in the first exercise by the nose?
.It is a light pressure in to that point. if you would like further detail you might like to look at Dr Raymond Perrins book
Interesting..not come across this before! Best thing for autoimmune issues like CFS is the AIP protocol. There are videos on TH-cam to explain. Changing my lifestyle in such a way has helped me hugely. 😊
With respect I was already eating like that and extremely physically active. That won’t cure ME/CFS. I have a severe case. Yes you need to eat well and stay away from inflammatory foods, but this is a Neurolymphatic procedure. I recommend you look up Dr Raymond Perrin and listen to him explain. Eating well will not make your mitochondria healthy and functional again.
Nur weil es Dir geholfen hat, ist es nicht das beste für alle.
I just started the perrin technique
Im worried about doing the back massage properly, i have a long back brush but its so hard to get below the spine and then up to the shoulder in a straight line without hurting the shoulder. I dont have the option of having someone do it for me.
Is there a better product then a back brush? Im worried this if i dont do this effectively its all worthless
Jason, if the handle of the back brush is long, it may make it easier. It is not worth doing it if it hurts your shoulder. If you can only do a little bit of the back by not going to the point it is difficult or hurting, that would be best. If you can not do any of the back with the brush at this time, it is still worth doing the other parts. Each bit will help. It is not a waste of time to do as much as you can of the routine.
I do hope this answer helps.
Why does the first thing make me feel weird and dizzy
hello Bee, unless we were with you and assessing, we can not be sure. However, it is also quite common to get that feeling as the lymphatic system is being aided to work, and this can then be a symptom of toxins being released. Be sure to go lightly, not heavily with the sequence. Think light Brushing only.
@@breakspearclinic9438 thank you
@@emo.grandma hi did it work
Isn't it uncomfortable for women with large breasts?
It is very gentle, and not uncomfortable. Pillows can also be used to aid comfort, by positioning as needed. 😊
There is absolutely no technical sense in working over the nipples and stroking the breast. The lymph channels run in a completely different direction. In addition, the relevant techniques to move the lymph are missing.
I am very sensitive to MLD but I don't feel anything here and my nervous system is being massively stressed instead.
I would like to know a logical reason for the treatment in the wrong direction and that the nipples are not left out
Thank You for your comment. You are welcome to take up your desire to discuss this with the University of Manchester medical department or Dr Raymond Perrin himself, who can easily be contacted at his clinic in Manchester. 😊
God bless you and everything but why do I think this is BS. Its just a relaxation thing that probably helps because of that.
Please look at and read the sound research that has been done on The Perrin Method and other people in this field.
I understand what you’re referring to.
@@breakspearclinic9438 I suppose my previous comment was deleted? Can’t we have an adult joke every now and then in this awful world.
@@PaulKitching11 it is not deleted Paul. We love humour, it is vital.
@@breakspearclinic9438 I can’t see it. The bullet comment is still there ?
Well, I sure wouldn't call it massage, and given someone else I wouldn't call it self-massage. Hmm!
This is not the correct authentic technique I was taught by Dr Perrins assistant ..
If you are happy with what you were shown, and it is different to this, then stick with that. 😊This video as you can see has helped very many. Dr Raymond Perrin is happy with this video, but you may want to refer to his book, for further help. 😊
How is the authentic method pkease? Thanks
@@valpurves45 lol. Why don’t you call the Perrin police have him arrested Karen ?