The eye or face detection MF function works only on the Nikon ZF and Z6III. You can look into your menu, photo shooting menu, and look if there is a MF subject detection area sub menu. Or you could look into your manual or any manual to check this. (STRG + F in the PDF for the search function.) For all other Nikon mirrorless cameras, you have the green confirmation box in MF with single AF in AF area mode, but not for the eye or face, and in the left lower corner like the DSLR confirmation. Like in the good old days, with the possibility to move your AF focus point in the frame as you wish. ATTENTION: 1. To get the green confirmation and the lower left confirmation, you need a lens (or a adapter like the neewer) with electronic contacts, like for example the old AF-D film era lenses. If you have a lens with electronic contacts, the Nikon FTZ I/II adapter works as mentioned above. 2. If you haven't a lens without any electronic contacts, you will get in manual focus only the help like the Sony A7III, with magnification and or with focus peaking. MAYBEE with this neewer adapter also the green confirmation box, but NO eye detection, besides the Zf and Z6III.
My ETZ AF adapter does this focus confirmation with my non-cpu lenses (Voigtlander M, AiS, etc). Also, the lens aperture you are using can be set using the Zf aperture command dial so that will be shown in the exif. Very cool! No need to take notes aside about the aperture i am using with those non-cpu lenses.
Well done Manu! I'll have to save this video for later, to use as a reference. I am only 2 days into owning the Nikon Zf. I have it coupled to the FTZ adapter II, with the Zeiss classic Planar T * 1.4/50mm, which has electronic contacts, and can already get the "green box" confirmation in manual mode. Since, I will be looking for a few older F-mount lenses to use with the thing, I'll definitely come back to your video for help. Muahahahahaha! I am really loving these options.
Thank you! :D How do the Nikon Zf lenses perform? I find them interesting, but for now, i still have enough glass to test and play. But maybe later... ;-) It is really a great time, we are living in. I am using my vintage lenses, my Sony E Lenses and who knows that else is handy. So many possible combinations. :D
This was very helpful and greatly demonstrated. Thanks Manu :) I haven't had the chance yet to dig into the manual focus topic of the Nikon Zf since I don't have much vintage lenses anymore (+missing adapters), but saw several videos about eye recognition. Great to see it works also in Frankenstein mode thanks to your illustration :) Dir und deiner Familie frohe Ostertage :)
Thanks. :) For me it is really handy, that I can use my Sony glass on the Nikon and also that the Neewer provides all the AF functions, even when a Pentax is made to a Sony is made to a Nikon Mount. :D Initially I did not want to go to Nikon, especially because of all the Adapters and that there is no Alternative for my SOny 24mm 1.4 GM. But now, i can use both on the nikon. Crazy times. ;-) Euch ebenfalls frohe Ostertage. :)
Absolut genial! Danke für dieses Tutorial. Anfangs war ich ein wenig enttäuscht, weil ich dachte die Nikon Zf schafft das mit der Eye Detection auch mit alten AI-S Objektiven ohne elektronische Kontakte. Leider Nein! Ich habe mir den Neewer F/E Adapter und von K&F einen geholt… heute erste Tests gmacht mit dem 50mm f1.4 und die Ergebnisse sind perfekt! Ciao Fokus-Peaking! Werde noch weitere Objektive testen, aber ich denke das funktioniert. Beste Grüsse aus Bern
@@maesestulz japp, das funktioniert. Es gibt noch den TTArtisan 6bit Leica M to Z Adapter. Mit dem geht der selbe Trick. Aber man quasi alles andere mit der Technik anschließen und es klappt. Bis jetzt hab ich nur mit dem Artralab Nonikkor 50mm 1.2 von Sony E und dem Neewer EtZ Adapter etwas Pech gehabt, weil da damit Unendlich nicht funktioniert y
This is awesome! I have tons of f mount manual focus glass that I use on my Zf and I’ve been annoyed about not having focus confirmation. I wish the neewer didn’t cost so much but what can you do. From what you’ve said this seems to be a feature that Nikon could easily remedy by changing the chip in the ftz adapters.
Indeed. Actually that one comment below some video and the fact, that I saw this function working on the ZF with Voigtlander Lenses is the only reason, i bought the Nikon ZF. I really love, that there is an so innovative Adapter market and that you can be so flexible with interchanging cameras and lenses of different brands, and they work very usable. The implementation of the function seems really like not that much of an design change. Maybe it is just software and it needs only one bit to be changed for other adapters, to work. I dont know. But I hope others will follow the Neewer solution. :)
I believe the cheapest way is to use the TTArtisan 6bit adapter that is from Leica M mount to Z. It costs around 95€ in Europe and you can set the focal length on the adapter.
Look also into Ken Rockwells 4 year old video (adapt any lens to Nikon Z) as introduction to adapt any lens ever made. At minute 8:20 the real fun starts. The answer is Leica M Mount adapter.
@manugeee he doesn't mentioned autofocus capabilities, he used only dumb adapters to build "Frankenstein" setup. 😉 Your video is gold for sharpness confirmation lovers. His video shows the generel possibilities of the Z Mount via adapters. Have you saw it?
Thank you so much for the post, it’s a game changer for me with this additional aid. I purchased the one you recommended and can confirm that it works on the zf out of the box as well as the older Z cameras. Z7 and z50 works fine.
Hi there back. :) Just found you comment by accident. :) To your question and to be honest: I dont know. Some people said, that it works also on older Nikon Cameras, but I have none and cannot check that.
Thanks Manu. This is a very interesting discovery, especially given that neither the Nikon FTZii or the Megadap ETZ adapters gave you focus confirmation. I’ve been able to get focus confirmation on my Z7ii with the Fringer EF-Z adapter using the EF mount version of my Lensbaby Velvet 85mm manual lens. I can’t confirm it works on the Zf because I don’t have the camera but I'm making the assumption that it will.
Ah That is also cool. I didnt know, that the Z7II also hat that feature. I would also say, that the software is the same, or at least it is the same operating system. I find it very cool, that these more advanced adapters make it possible to combine so many types of lenses and cameras together. :-D
To get the focus box on my Canon R8 with 'Vintage' lenses, I have to purchase a 'chipped' adapter. It kind of works. It tells the camera that I have a 50mm lens on it. The problem is that it is designed for DSLRs so calibrations doesn't work. I have to slightly front focus on the box a tiny bit on my Contax/Zeiss 135mm, but with practice, it works fine.
I used a chip like this with my old EF Cameras back in the days. There it worked the same way. But I thought, that newer mirrorless cameras with the focus system on the sensor, shouldnt have the old back or front focus problem anymore. But manual focussing is per se a matter of practice, i think. ;-)
In my opinion the Megadap ETZ21 is the better choice for an af Sony E to Nikon Z adapter. Another cheaper option is the Leica M TT Artisan 6 Bit adapter.
I initially baught the Megadap Adapter for my Sony glass and hoped, that it could also provide this feature. But the Megadap Adapter does not. Maybe it is just software, maybe one of the pins needs a certain signal, I don´t know, but for manual focussing, the Megadap does not support focus confirmation with non CPU lenses, sadly. I have no Leica M lenses, so this is not really an option, but because I have almost every SLR Mount adapter to Sony E - I immediately can reuse all the adapters and lenses with the neewer. That is maybe a special situation just for me, but I find it very handy. ;-)
My goodness. If Nikon engineers see this, they will bang their heads on the desk. It's really strange that a heritage brand like Nikon is unable to power up their vintage glasses here...
To nikon's credit, the old AF-D lenses with CPU work exactly the same way on the FTZ adapters. Only the AI-S lenses are unfortunately no longer supported. What I find very unfortunate is that there is no adapter that can drive the rod AF of the AF-D lenses. They can only be used manually.
Buddy! I don't know how you figured this would work but you are a goddamn genius or a madman savant. I use some pretty wacky old lenses (like a c mount 135mm f4.5 Soligar). I routinely ran those on one of my many Sony's but focus confirmation doesn't work. Running them on my DF with this hack is a fucking game changer. You are a hero. Thank you so very much!
Haha! Thanks man! 😊 I think, I read in some German photography forum, that someone saw, that somebody else had MF confirmation with an adapter and a non CPU lens. And the I tried to figure out which combination worked and which not. So far the neewer ETZ and the TTArtisan M-Z adapter do for certain. 😁 Actually this only one feature is why I got the ZF. And since I also can adapt my Sony Glas with my, so far the Nikon Z mounting the most versatile of all. But maybe not in the way, Nikon would like it. 😅
Interestingly, you could put that manual focus Nikon mount lens on to some early Nikon DLSR such as the Nikon D40-series, D50, D60, D70-series, D80, D90, D100, D200, D300-series, D3XXX, D5XXX and you'd get a focus confirmation indicator in the viewfinder. Some others: D1 / D2 / D3 / D4 / D5-series, D8XX, D7XX, D6XX, Df, D500, D7XXX even gave you directional focus assist arrows as well.
I think, that was a little easier back then, because Nikon tried to keep compatibility of the mount for a long long time over the kinds of (D)SLRs, they made. I think the first major change with some kinds of incompatibility was, when the G Lenses came, with internal focus motor. But i am not that deep into this lenses. Canon also just needed a simple chip at the EF pin positions on the lens, to supply focus confirmation. :)
@@manugeee Yes, it's interesting how digital cameras have evolved. It was great when mirrorless cameras opened up the possibility of mounting all sorts of older lenses, but so frustrating that they don't incorporate focus confirmation.
From what I have gathered, it's because the PDAF system actually needs to know exactly what lens is attached. (focal length and distance to sensor) for the AF system to properly work. With the chipped Nikon F lenses, this is possible, because the FTZ adapter transports this information to the camera. Interestingly enough, the AF Confirm green box does not work with all chipped lenses for Nikon F mount. For some reason, some lenses don't transmit all the relevant data. I've used unchipped vintage glass on my Canon DSLR using lens adapters with Dandelion chips and never had any issues with focus accuracy (after programming the af adjustment in camera) I honestly cannot imagine how the ON-Sensor PDAF could be any worse than a separate AF chip in a DSLR. It doesn't need to be 1000% accurate either. Just give us the green box instead of stupid focus peaking. Ideally, with any unchipped X-to-NikonZ adapter, so we can set the focal length and max aperture of the lens in the camera menu (for IBIS to work properly, too)
Thats, great. Thank you. I have a couple of Olympus cameras and they have amazing IBIS which works the same way with third party lenses. I was seriously considering buying a Leica SL2 a few months ago mainly to be able to use my Leica M and Zeiss or Voigtlander lenses, but I was informed that Leica had put in a feature that the IBIS would only work if it recognised the lens as Leica when using the adapter or something like that. If true this is totally unacceptable, and probably a Board decision spearhaded by accountants. @@manugeee
Sehr gerne. Viel Spaß damit. :-) Ich hab jetzt bald mein erstes Video mit nem Objektivtest fertig, dass nur damit geschossen wurde und es ist wirklich ne ganze Ecke angenehmer. Aber rumhüpfende Kinder bleiben auch damit stressig. ;-) Ich hoffe es wird bald auch noch ein offizielles Firmware Update kommen. Ich hab vom Neewer Support noch ne Beta Firmware bekommen, die auch IBIS unterstützt, weil dann die Brennweite zur Kamera übertragbar ist. Ist zwar harkelig in der Beta, aber macht vor allem die Fokuslupe nochmal angenehmer.
Yes. That is the trick. Get an Neewer ETZ oder, then an simple Whatever-Mount to Sony E Mount adapter and a whatever-mount lens, put all on the Nikon ZF and it will work. :-)
The TTartisan 6bit M to Z adapter achieves the same thing but for less money. You just have to convert your vintage lenses to Leica M mount instead of E mount.
Oh wow! I just saw, that’s the ttArtisan Adapter also has a Focal length ring on the side. That could make the Ibis a lot easier to use than with beta Firmaware and Neewer adapter. I will definitely check this out. Thanks. ! ☺️
@@manugeee Yeah the only downside to that is it only has standard focal lengths of 28, 35, 50, 75, 90, 135 so if your lens is something other than that it won't work.
Sehr gerne. Du kannst den Trick auch mit dem TTArtisan M to Z Adapter machen. Musst nur alten Anschluss auf Leica M Adaptieren. Der Adapter ist noch etwas robuster und kann Brennweiten für Ibis per Drehrad ändern. Absolut nützlich. Werde ich auf jeden Fall auch nochmal ein Video zu machen :-)
Ich habe mal noch eine ganz andere Frage an dich als ZF user - ich habe das problem, das mein augenautofocus mit dem 40mm f2 oder anderen Linsen nicht auf meine Augen scharfstellt, sondern an meinen Augenbrauen hängenbleibt . Das passiert mir sehr sehr oft. Ist dir die Problematik bekannt? Viele Grüße
That is true. I was on a short trip yesterday, but i noticed that the camera works strange. When I set the apperture on the lens to for example f22 and in with the wheel on f22 as well, then I think the camera does expect that the lens is on working apperture wide open and will stop down to f22. But then the light meter calculates, with the only f22 light coming on the sensor, that the lens will stop further down, and i got to dark images. Do you have experienced the same behaviour?
Ah yes! That is true. :-) I also still have a little chip, that I glued on old, rebuild Canon fd Lenses, that I equipped with an 3D Printed EF Mount. Then even my old 5D CLassic made Focus Confirmation. But with todays Cameras, I found nothing similar and with Eye Detection functions, the ZF is really handy now for using vintage glass.
@@manugeee I totally agree, focus confirmation is quite useful back in the days. I am surprised only Nikon introduced subject detection with MF lenses.
I bought the Neeewer adapter just because the Megadap etz21 didn't seem to work as you also found out. I followed your settings but with firmware 2.7, but on my Z8 and yes, it works. But the Megadap one still doesn't.
Cool. I was still wondering if the adapter also works on other Nikon cameras, which were released before the Nikon ZF. As for now, I only found the Neewer adapter if this video and also the TTartisan MTZ 6Bit adapter, which work with non CPU lenses. :-)
So let me get this straight, I mount a ETZ adapter on the Zf body and then a Leica M to E adapter on that and I can use my vintage Leica lenses or third party lens like a Light Lens Lab or TTArtisan and retain focus confirmation and f stop recognition??? How?
Almost. You do not get f-stop recognition with this method. You only can set an f-mount number in the camera, but it is not connected to the lens and i noticed, that with too high f-stop values, the exposure gets off. (from f11 on) With M-Mount lenses there should be an TTArtisan Adapter with 6bit Coding. But I have no experience with that.
Hi Andrew, Not really a silly question. I honestly dont know the answer, because I have no ZFc. Some people said, that the green box funktion also worked with older Nikon "Z" Bodies, but I have never seen it in real life. Greetings Manu
Merci, Manu. In regard to (whichever) Nikon body is used - Zf, Zfc, I assume the Sony E component is also vital, prior to mounting any one of my M/f (non CPU) Nikkor lenses ? In truth, I've been so busy renovating a number of my manual lens collection over the last twelve months, I've hardly paid attention to TH-cam camera-related videos - hence my enquiries - À plus ! Andrew
@@andrewtongue7084 To use the Nikon Manual focussing green box function, the most important part is the Nikon to X adapter. In the neewer Case the X is Sony E Mount, but there is also a TTArtisan Leica M to Nikon Z Adapter with electronics, that does the same job. So there the X is Leica M. Luckily there are a large number of the next stage of pure mechanical adapters from every vintage lens mount to either Sony E or Leica M. So you have a little bit of choice here. I also started to be less interested in the latest camera technology here on YT, because I found that more MP or better AF or tilty flippy screens don’t change the user experience that drastically over my A7 III, which I used intensively with MF lenses. Only the Nikon MF green Box and Eye detection feature sparked my interest again. Still I find the Sony fits better in my hand but the Nikon has better (and maybe unintended) MF usability. 😅
The eye or face detection MF function works only on the Nikon ZF and Z6III. You can look into your menu, photo shooting menu, and look if there is a MF subject detection area sub menu. Or you could look into your manual or any manual to check this. (STRG + F in the PDF for the search function.) For all other Nikon mirrorless cameras, you have the green confirmation box in MF with single AF in AF area mode, but not for the eye or face, and in the left lower corner like the DSLR confirmation. Like in the good old days, with the possibility to move your AF focus point in the frame as you wish. ATTENTION: 1. To get the green confirmation and the lower left confirmation, you need a lens (or a adapter like the neewer) with electronic contacts, like for example the old AF-D film era lenses. If you have a lens with electronic contacts, the Nikon FTZ I/II adapter works as mentioned above. 2. If you haven't a lens without any electronic contacts, you will get in manual focus only the help like the Sony A7III, with magnification and or with focus peaking. MAYBEE with this neewer adapter also the green confirmation box, but NO eye detection, besides the Zf and Z6III.
How do I use this method with lenses other than Nikon f mount, would I need to use a different sony adapter for each different lens manufacturer? Say I wanted to use canon lenses would I have to then use the sony to canon adapter ?
Yes, exactly! The trick is, to convert the Nikon into an E-Mount bayonet camera with the newer adapter. The electronic controls are between Nikon and neewer. And now you can use any old lens and get an adapter from „old lens“ to E-Mount.
To be honest, i havent yet tested the AF of the adapter with my Sony lenses. I used the Megadap ETZ 21 Pro, which seems to be fine and good enough for me, but i think native Z-Mount Nikon lenses could be a little bit faster. But as for now, i also only used the relatively old Zeiss 55mm 1.8. This Weekend I plan to mount the 24mm 1.4 GM on the camera and go out. But so far, I dont know the Neewer AF Performance, yet.
Some people said, that it also works with older Z Cameras. I only have the ZF, so I cannot for shure say anything about the others. Do have an Ftz adapter and an older CPU lens for testing? Because there with MF the confirmation also works, but only for CPU lenses. AI-S or older do not have the green box with Ftz adapters.
Thank you Manu for this video. Very informative and I have subscribed to stay informed. Can I ask, is the Sony adapter (with the orange ring ) F mount to E mount? Also, this somehow works better than the FTZ adapter? I just bought a Nikon Fz camera and have several old Nikon Ais lenses to play with and the FTZII adapter. Thank you. Auf wiedersehen.
Thanks for the comment. My Nikon F to Sony E Adapter (I think it’s from K&C Concept) is a pure mechanical adapter and has no electronics inside. It basically just clutches G Mount Glas into E-Mount cameras/ or Emount Adapters. The Nikon FTZ adapter on the other hand is a mechanical connection and has electronic contacts. That means that AF-D ans AF-S Nikon Lenses can communicate with the camera. But the AF-D lenses need an external motor, so they cannot Autofocus with the FTZ adapters (I and II). But since they communicate, they also give the green MF confirmation box. Unfortunately with older AI-S lenses, without a CPU inside, They also cannot communicate through the FTZ adapters and sadly don’t give the green MF confirmation. I only found the newer adapter and lately the TTartisan Leica M to Nikon Z adapter, which provides MF configuration with non CPU lenses.
With Nikon AI-S and older non CPU lenses sadly not. But if you take the AF-D or AF-s lenses with CPU, you can also use them for Manual focussing with AF confirmation.
Thanks for the video..........ive found the Neewer ETZ adapter on B&H but need some advise on what adapter to get for my Nikkor 55:1.2 pre AI lens back to the Sony E mount?
You´re welcome. :) I use the K&C Pro Adapter Nikon F to Sony E to couple it with the Neewer ETZ. Works pretty well and is a solid adapter. Just keep in mind, that the neewer is not really fast with Sony E Mount Autofocus lenses, if this is important for you. Here the Megadap ETZ 21pro is better, but has no focus confirmation. And if you want IBIS, the neewer can do it with a firmware update, that is not released, but I am testing a beta version at the moment.
In the later part of the video I also show the I detection with the Neewer Adapter. The Megadap on the other hand doesn´t have the focus confirmation at all.
The autofocus with other Sony E Mount lenses is pretty slow. Tested it with the 24mm f1.4 Sony and cannot recommend to use it for AF. Here the Megadap is much better.
Thanks! I thought, i put in chapters, but they are definetly not there. But of course I put a lot of effort into my introduction of the topic. So feel free to what that too. ;-)
Boa noite meu amigo. Se eu colocar uma lente manual sem contatos eletrônicos na ZF preciso ir em alguma parte do menu para liberar pra utilizar a abertura da lente? Ou é automático? Obrigado
Hi there, sorry, I don’t understand your question totally ans the auto translation was a little strange. I think you want to ask about the aperture value in the camera. You only can set it manually as a value on the front dial, but at larger values above f5.6 the exposure behaviour gets a little off. I choose to not put the right values in during my shoots. Did I get your question? :-) Cheers
@@manugeee obrigado. A pergunta era se a ZF reconhece automaticamente uma lente manual sem contato eletrônico, ou precisamos ir no menu liberar para usar a lente?
The only issue I see is the camera body does not know the focal length of the lens you are using so IBIS isn't going to work properly for all focal lengths. If you use a chipped adapter like the neewer, it won't allow you to utilize non-cpu lens data. Or does it??
Actually I checked it. Even if the non CPU lens is added, you cannot activate the IBIS, unfortunately. I dont know why, but I will ask the Neewer Support. It is okay for shorter focal lenght, but even for longer lenses IBIS is very usefull, as I learned with my Sony.
@@carlosandreviana9448 But you're not using a non-cpu lens anymore once you put a chipped adapter on the camera, even if you have a non cpu lens in front of the chipped adapter, the camera is assuming you have a chipped lens attached that isn't reporting the focal length, making the camera ignore the "non cpu lens data" menu input.
It doen´t with the tested Firmware. The IBIS is actually not active. I reached out to Neewer and got a Beta Firmware, that activates IBIS. But I need some more time to check it out. I found one text file on the adapter with focal length information, and the non CPU Data in the camera. Neewer did not answer my question very well, where to change the info, but I will investigate, when i have more time.
@@manugeee Thanks for the update! I noticed the text file too, and I wonder if just cahning it would do the trick - but at the same time I am sure that would not work.
I also reached out to Neewer, and got an equally cryptic response. Updating firmware to 2.70 supposedly fixes IBIS, but how to change the focal length remains a mystery. They said it is in the text file, and can be changed - but neglected to tell me how. I just tried manually changing the parameters on the text file, but not surprisingly I just got an error message when trying to replace the existing txt file with an altered one. It’s a crock of ****, to be sure.
@@snoogly yesterday, I tried out just to change the focal length values (set to 400) and had an noticeable effect on the IBIS performance with the 50mm lens still attached. I just edited the value but also copied the whole section to add a second lens in hope that I can switch between both. But last one had no effect. Error messages were also not shown. My firmware is also 2.6. so you have a newer update.
I have made an update video on this adapter and features provided with a beta firmware version. But to make it short: It works, as explained. I only noticed, that i cannot set up high apperture values on the camera, because then the exposure gets off. Also high apperture values on the lens let the exposure change a little with automatic exposure setups. A little strange, but you can compensate with the exposure compensation dial.
I was able to do this with the AFD CPU chipped lenses on my Z6 & I liked it a lot. However, I liked my DSLRs better than the Z6, so I just sold my Z6 and I hope to buy a Zf sometime in future when they get cheaper. I’m back with D3s & D3X for now (with a D610 on order.)
Freut mich, dass es dich freut. Du hast mich auf den Trichter gebracht und ich hab mich gefreut, wie´n Schnitzel, als ich die "von hinten durch die Brust ins Auge" Lösung gefunden habe. Also Danke dafür. :-)
I dont know, what the Nikon needs to activate the feature. But it does not seem to be that much. Maybe just some Bits need to be active to activate the feature. Maybe the Bits need to be send from the lens Pin inputs.
Hi my adapters arrived they are exactly the same ones that you have everything is working with my Pre AI Nikkor 55:1.2 lens but I still cant get the green conformation box when the camera is in focus..........what do you recommend that I do
Hi Neil, It hard to say from the far why you don’t get the confirmation. I would start analytically. Which camera do you use? (Also some people said that older bodies also should work) What firmware update have camera and adapter? Did you check all the settings, I also posted in my video? Is maybe the 55 1:2 to soft wide open? Does it work at f2.8 or at f4? If you get it working please Let me know and tell me what you had to change. Cheers manu
I did the same and unfortunately the two adapters got jammed together so both adapters are ruined. (luckily not the lens) I suspect it might be due to the slim eject mechanism on the EtoZ adapter failing. To those who want to do this, beware of the risks.
You mean, you cant remove the Neewer adapter from the "Other-to-Sony" Adapter when pushing the knob up? I also do not like the Neewer release mechanism that much, but I had no Problems with releasing it, so far. Did you contact Neewer?
It totally doesn't matter. Focus confirmation is made irrelevant using manual lens AF adapter Techart TZM-02 (unless it's a lens with floating elements or too heavy).
Yes, that’s true. Though i never tested this adapter, it is a viable option and you get AF with vintage lenses. But that is actually not my point. If I want AF, I would not use some vintage lenses with adapter. I would get modern lenses from any modern brand. For me photography is my hobby and here i want to enjoy the process. Manual focussing is a much more haptical and self rewarding experience. When the focus is spot on, then because I have nailed it. Also it’s a lot of fun to explore old vintage lenses. Is definitely not the best and most effective way today, but from my point of view the most enjoyable. 😁
It was already mentioned in another comment, that also the old Canon EF Cameras could to this, and I also still have a chip from when I used 3D Printed parts to build Canon fd Lenses into EF Mount lenses. But today with mirrorless cameras and the very much smaller flange distances Adapting vintage lenses is much more easy and powerfull. Also the subject detection functions make manual focussing so much more usefull and accurate.
Ok, my 2 cents worth... Having looked through the ZF EVF, I disagree. I think Nikon missed a trick with its low res EVF. I think the best camera to use vintage lenses is the A7R5 - the EVF is that good that you dont need annoying focusing aids. Focus just snaps into clarity. Its similar experience to the old SLRs that had ground glass screens I guess. I refuse to go back to a camera with a lower spec.
To be honest, I was a little dissappointet about the A7R5 EVF. When it was released, I thought that this will be my perfect next camera, but when I took it into my hands, the whole camera did not fit me, to be honest. The Nikon Viewfinder is okay. Definetly Better than the SOny A7III ones. And it does not reduce resolution, when half pressing the trigger, which I found very disturbing.
@@manugeee For manual lenses the Sony EVF doesn't reduce resolution, so no difference there. For AF lenses I don't really care about the slight loss of image quality. Once you setup the correct profiles for sharpness and contrast, the Mk5 EVF is just a lovely experience.
What he neglects to mention is that the adapter reports all non cpu lenses as being 50mm. This means incorrect exif info, and wrong ibis settings. It’s a real shame he wasn’t more honest about this, as surely he tried it with lenses other than 50mm …
We should tell him to make an update on this video, because in the test, he also did not notice, that the IBIS was deactivated and he has to contact neewer, to get a beta firmware to actively use the IBIS. Also he should investigate more, where exactly he has to chance the focal lenght settings, as it seems, to be written into a text file on the adapter. But it could also be on the non CPU Lenses. He is maybe a little busy at the moment, but if someone would tell him to check about all this stuff, would be great.
@@manugeee😅👍 Really interesting! Looking forward to where the journey goes and maybe neewer sees the opportunity for making an actually unique product! Danke für deine Arbeit!
Thank you so much for the post, it’s a game changer for me with this additional aid. I purchased the one you recommended and can confirm that it works on the zf out of the box as well as the olderx Z cameras. Z7 and z50 works fine.
Ah! That is cool, that it also works with the older Z-Cameras. Thanks for the Info. :D I noticed that the IBIS is not working with this software, but I asked Neewer and got a Beta Firmware, that activates also IBIS. Pretty cool.
The eye or face detection MF function works only on the Nikon ZF and Z6III. You can look into your menu, photo shooting menu, and look if there is a MF subject detection area sub menu. Or you could look into your manual or any manual to check this. (STRG + F in the PDF for the search function.)
For all other Nikon mirrorless cameras, you have the green confirmation box in MF with single AF in AF area mode, but not for the eye or face, and in the left lower corner like the DSLR confirmation. Like in the good old days, with the possibility to move your AF focus point in the frame as you wish. ATTENTION: 1. To get the green confirmation and the lower left confirmation, you need a lens (or a adapter like the neewer) with electronic contacts, like for example the old AF-D film era lenses. If you have a lens with electronic contacts, the Nikon FTZ I/II adapter works as mentioned above.
2. If you haven't a lens without any electronic contacts, you will get in manual focus only the help like the Sony A7III, with magnification and or with focus peaking. MAYBEE with this neewer adapter also the green confirmation box, but NO eye detection, besides the Zf and Z6III.
My ETZ AF adapter does this focus confirmation with my non-cpu lenses (Voigtlander M, AiS, etc). Also, the lens aperture you are using can be set using the Zf aperture command dial so that will be shown in the exif. Very cool! No need to take notes aside about the aperture i am using with those non-cpu lenses.
That is a great tip! It´s true. I can change the apperture value with the command dial. Thanks for that! :)
Which adapter are you using?
@@manugeee It is named "FUNMOUNT" - ETZ ADAPTER.
Well done Manu!
I'll have to save this video for later, to use as a reference. I am only 2 days into owning the Nikon Zf. I have it coupled to the FTZ adapter II, with the Zeiss classic Planar T * 1.4/50mm, which has electronic contacts, and can already get the "green box" confirmation in manual mode.
Since, I will be looking for a few older F-mount lenses to use with the thing, I'll definitely come back to your video for help.
Muahahahahaha! I am really loving these options.
Thank you! :D
How do the Nikon Zf lenses perform? I find them interesting, but for now, i still have enough glass to test and play. But maybe later... ;-)
It is really a great time, we are living in. I am using my vintage lenses, my Sony E Lenses and who knows that else is handy. So many possible combinations. :D
This is amazing. Thank for the fantastic info. This is a life saver and turns our vintage lenses from silver to gold.
Definitely! :D
This was very helpful and greatly demonstrated. Thanks Manu :)
I haven't had the chance yet to dig into the manual focus topic of the Nikon Zf since I don't have much vintage lenses anymore (+missing adapters), but saw several videos about eye recognition. Great to see it works also in Frankenstein mode thanks to your illustration :)
Dir und deiner Familie frohe Ostertage :)
Thanks. :)
For me it is really handy, that I can use my Sony glass on the Nikon and also that the Neewer provides all the AF functions, even when a Pentax is made to a Sony is made to a Nikon Mount. :D
Initially I did not want to go to Nikon, especially because of all the Adapters and that there is no Alternative for my SOny 24mm 1.4 GM. But now, i can use both on the nikon. Crazy times. ;-)
Euch ebenfalls frohe Ostertage. :)
Absolut genial! Danke für dieses Tutorial. Anfangs war ich ein wenig enttäuscht, weil ich dachte die Nikon Zf schafft das mit der Eye Detection auch mit alten AI-S Objektiven ohne elektronische Kontakte. Leider Nein! Ich habe mir den Neewer F/E Adapter und von K&F einen geholt… heute erste Tests gmacht mit dem 50mm f1.4 und die Ergebnisse sind perfekt! Ciao Fokus-Peaking! Werde noch weitere Objektive testen, aber ich denke das funktioniert. Beste Grüsse aus Bern
@@maesestulz japp, das funktioniert. Es gibt noch den TTArtisan 6bit Leica M to Z Adapter. Mit dem geht der selbe Trick. Aber man quasi alles andere mit der Technik anschließen und es klappt. Bis jetzt hab ich nur mit dem Artralab Nonikkor 50mm 1.2 von Sony E und dem Neewer EtZ Adapter etwas Pech gehabt, weil da damit Unendlich nicht funktioniert y
This is awesome! I have tons of f mount manual focus glass that I use on my Zf and I’ve been annoyed about not having focus confirmation. I wish the neewer didn’t cost so much but what can you do. From what you’ve said this seems to be a feature that Nikon could easily remedy by changing the chip in the ftz adapters.
Indeed. Actually that one comment below some video and the fact, that I saw this function working on the ZF with Voigtlander Lenses is the only reason, i bought the Nikon ZF.
I really love, that there is an so innovative Adapter market and that you can be so flexible with interchanging cameras and lenses of different brands, and they work very usable.
The implementation of the function seems really like not that much of an design change. Maybe it is just software and it needs only one bit to be changed for other adapters, to work. I dont know. But I hope others will follow the Neewer solution. :)
I believe the cheapest way is to use the TTArtisan 6bit adapter that is from Leica M mount to Z. It costs around 95€ in Europe and you can set the focal length on the adapter.
Look also into Ken Rockwells 4 year old video (adapt any lens to Nikon Z) as introduction to adapt any lens ever made. At minute 8:20 the real fun starts. The answer is Leica M Mount adapter.
@@chiftele08 ah yes, did not see this video before, it it seems, he found out earlier😅
@manugeee he doesn't mentioned autofocus capabilities, he used only dumb adapters to build "Frankenstein" setup. 😉 Your video is gold for sharpness confirmation lovers. His video shows the generel possibilities of the Z Mount via adapters. Have you saw it?
@ yes, between the 4 years the adapters have evolved from dumb to smart.
But the Frankenstein method is the same. He „only“ came up with it earlier. 🤓
Thank you so much for the post, it’s a game changer for me with this additional aid. I purchased the one you recommended and can confirm that it works on the zf out of the box as well as the older Z cameras. Z7 and z50 works fine.
Hi there 🖐🏻 what do you get on the Z7 with the ETZ adapter? Just the green box focus conformation or the eye detection as well?
Hi there back. :) Just found you comment by accident. :)
To your question and to be honest: I dont know. Some people said, that it works also on older Nikon Cameras, but I have none and cannot check that.
Thanks Manu. This is a very interesting discovery, especially given that neither the Nikon FTZii or the Megadap ETZ adapters gave you focus confirmation. I’ve been able to get focus confirmation on my Z7ii with the Fringer EF-Z adapter using the EF mount version of my Lensbaby Velvet 85mm manual lens. I can’t confirm it works on the Zf because I don’t have the camera but I'm making the assumption that it will.
Ah That is also cool. I didnt know, that the Z7II also hat that feature. I would also say, that the software is the same, or at least it is the same operating system.
I find it very cool, that these more advanced adapters make it possible to combine so many types of lenses and cameras together. :-D
To get the focus box on my Canon R8 with 'Vintage' lenses, I have to purchase a 'chipped' adapter. It kind of works. It tells the camera that I have a 50mm lens on it. The problem is that it is designed for DSLRs so calibrations doesn't work. I have to slightly front focus on the box a tiny bit on my Contax/Zeiss 135mm, but with practice, it works fine.
I used a chip like this with my old EF Cameras back in the days. There it worked the same way. But I thought, that newer mirrorless cameras with the focus system on the sensor, shouldnt have the old back or front focus problem anymore.
But manual focussing is per se a matter of practice, i think. ;-)
In my opinion the Megadap ETZ21 is the better choice for an af Sony E to Nikon Z adapter. Another cheaper option is the Leica M TT Artisan 6 Bit adapter.
I initially baught the Megadap Adapter for my Sony glass and hoped, that it could also provide this feature. But the Megadap Adapter does not. Maybe it is just software, maybe one of the pins needs a certain signal, I don´t know, but for manual focussing, the Megadap does not support focus confirmation with non CPU lenses, sadly.
I have no Leica M lenses, so this is not really an option, but because I have almost every SLR Mount adapter to Sony E - I immediately can reuse all the adapters and lenses with the neewer.
That is maybe a special situation just for me, but I find it very handy. ;-)
@@manugeee Latest firmware on the adapter? Try it. It works for me.
@@stefan_becker I tried the latest firmware on Megadap. No luck.
@@stefan_becker @manugeee please try this and confirm if possible!
My goodness. If Nikon engineers see this, they will bang their heads on the desk. It's really strange that a heritage brand like Nikon is unable to power up their vintage glasses here...
To nikon's credit, the old AF-D lenses with CPU work exactly the same way on the FTZ adapters. Only the AI-S lenses are unfortunately no longer supported. What I find very unfortunate is that there is no adapter that can drive the rod AF of the AF-D lenses. They can only be used manually.
Buddy! I don't know how you figured this would work but you are a goddamn genius or a madman savant.
I use some pretty wacky old lenses (like a c mount 135mm f4.5 Soligar). I routinely ran those on one of my many Sony's but focus confirmation doesn't work. Running them on my DF with this hack is a fucking game changer.
You are a hero.
Thank you so very much!
Haha! Thanks man! 😊
I think, I read in some German photography forum, that someone saw, that somebody else had MF confirmation with an adapter and a non CPU lens. And the I tried to figure out which combination worked and which not.
So far the neewer ETZ and the TTArtisan M-Z adapter do for certain. 😁
Actually this only one feature is why I got the ZF. And since I also can adapt my Sony Glas with my, so far the Nikon Z mounting the most versatile of all. But maybe not in the way, Nikon would like it. 😅
Thank you one thousand times for this video. I will try it on my Zf as soon I receive this neewer adapter. You have a new follower. 👍
You are welcome. :) I finally am working on my first lens test with this combo. :) May still take a couple of weeks, until it is finished. :)
Interestingly, you could put that manual focus Nikon mount lens on to some early Nikon DLSR such as the Nikon D40-series, D50, D60, D70-series, D80, D90, D100, D200, D300-series, D3XXX, D5XXX and you'd get a focus confirmation indicator in the viewfinder. Some others: D1 / D2 / D3 / D4 / D5-series, D8XX, D7XX, D6XX, Df, D500, D7XXX even gave you directional focus assist arrows as well.
I think, that was a little easier back then, because Nikon tried to keep compatibility of the mount for a long long time over the kinds of (D)SLRs, they made. I think the first major change with some kinds of incompatibility was, when the G Lenses came, with internal focus motor. But i am not that deep into this lenses.
Canon also just needed a simple chip at the EF pin positions on the lens, to supply focus confirmation. :)
@@manugeee Yes, it's interesting how digital cameras have evolved. It was great when mirrorless cameras opened up the possibility of mounting all sorts of older lenses, but so frustrating that they don't incorporate focus confirmation.
This is great but why does the Nikon Z to F adapter not do this then - when it's clearly possible?
I also have no Idea, but it seems not to be too complicated. The FTZ adapter only makes green boxes with CPU lenses.
From what I have gathered, it's because the PDAF system actually needs to know exactly what lens is attached. (focal length and distance to sensor) for the AF system to properly work.
With the chipped Nikon F lenses, this is possible, because the FTZ adapter transports this information to the camera.
Interestingly enough, the AF Confirm green box does not work with all chipped lenses for Nikon F mount. For some reason, some lenses don't transmit all the relevant data.
I've used unchipped vintage glass on my Canon DSLR using lens adapters with Dandelion chips and never had any issues with focus accuracy (after programming the af adjustment in camera)
I honestly cannot imagine how the ON-Sensor PDAF could be any worse than a separate AF chip in a DSLR.
It doesn't need to be 1000% accurate either. Just give us the green box instead of stupid focus peaking.
Ideally, with any unchipped X-to-NikonZ adapter, so we can set the focal length and max aperture of the lens in the camera menu (for IBIS to work properly, too)
Great workaround!
I was already looking at the E to Z adapter, but makes it even more interesting!
Indeed! It´s a little bit around the corner but works well :D
This was excellent information. Does the IBIS work with manual vintage lenses?
Thanks. :)
Yes, the IBIS works. You just have to tell the camera which focal length you are using - In the Non CPU Lens Menu, i have shown.
Thats, great. Thank you. I have a couple of Olympus cameras and they have amazing IBIS which works the same way with third party lenses. I was seriously considering buying a Leica SL2 a few months ago mainly to be able to use my Leica M and Zeiss or Voigtlander lenses, but I was informed that Leica had put in a feature that the IBIS would only work if it recognised the lens as Leica when using the adapter or something like that. If true this is totally unacceptable, and probably a Board decision spearhaded by accountants. @@manugeee
Danke dir!! Sehr sehr nützlich!!! Kann es kaum erwarten, dass das Teil bei mir im Briefkasten landet! Viele Grüße!
Sehr gerne. Viel Spaß damit. :-) Ich hab jetzt bald mein erstes Video mit nem Objektivtest fertig, dass nur damit geschossen wurde und es ist wirklich ne ganze Ecke angenehmer. Aber rumhüpfende Kinder bleiben auch damit stressig. ;-)
Ich hoffe es wird bald auch noch ein offizielles Firmware Update kommen. Ich hab vom Neewer Support noch ne Beta Firmware bekommen, die auch IBIS unterstützt, weil dann die Brennweite zur Kamera übertragbar ist. Ist zwar harkelig in der Beta, aber macht vor allem die Fokuslupe nochmal angenehmer.
Thanks! Works great! Much appreciated!
Does it also work with M42 mount vintage lenses or do you need a different neewer adapter combo to do it? thanks, love the hack.
Yes. That is the trick. Get an Neewer ETZ oder, then an simple Whatever-Mount to Sony E Mount adapter and a whatever-mount lens, put all on the Nikon ZF and it will work. :-)
The TTartisan 6bit M to Z adapter achieves the same thing but for less money. You just have to convert your vintage lenses to Leica M mount instead of E mount.
Oh wow! I just saw, that’s the ttArtisan Adapter also has a Focal length ring on the side. That could make the Ibis a lot easier to use than with beta Firmaware and Neewer adapter. I will definitely check this out. Thanks. ! ☺️
@@manugeee Yeah the only downside to that is it only has standard focal lengths of 28, 35, 50, 75, 90, 135 so if your lens is something other than that it won't work.
Ich freu mir gerade nen riesen Ast !!! Mega. Danke dir.
Sehr gerne. Du kannst den Trick auch mit dem TTArtisan M to Z Adapter machen. Musst nur alten Anschluss auf Leica M Adaptieren. Der Adapter ist noch etwas robuster und kann Brennweiten für Ibis per Drehrad ändern.
Absolut nützlich. Werde ich auf jeden Fall auch nochmal ein Video zu machen :-)
Ich habe mal noch eine ganz andere Frage an dich als ZF user - ich habe das problem, das mein augenautofocus mit dem 40mm f2 oder anderen Linsen nicht auf meine Augen scharfstellt, sondern an meinen Augenbrauen hängenbleibt . Das passiert mir sehr sehr oft. Ist dir die Problematik bekannt? Viele Grüße
Insane that I can't get this green confirmation box using the official FTZ II adapter
Yes, there it works only with AF-D and newer lenses, which have a CPU.
Regarding the displayed maximum aperture of the mounted lens, you can change it using the front command dial on the Z f.
That is true. I was on a short trip yesterday, but i noticed that the camera works strange. When I set the apperture on the lens to for example f22 and in with the wheel on f22 as well, then I think the camera does expect that the lens is on working apperture wide open and will stop down to f22. But then the light meter calculates, with the only f22 light coming on the sensor, that the lens will stop further down, and i got to dark images. Do you have experienced the same behaviour?
@@manugeee I believe you just need to set it to the max aperture of the lens so the camera can meter accordingly.
It works the same as using MF lenses on Canon EF bodies with adapters built with electronic contacts.
Ah yes! That is true. :-) I also still have a little chip, that I glued on old, rebuild Canon fd Lenses, that I equipped with an 3D Printed EF Mount. Then even my old 5D CLassic made Focus Confirmation. But with todays Cameras, I found nothing similar and with Eye Detection functions, the ZF is really handy now for using vintage glass.
@@manugeee I totally agree, focus confirmation is quite useful back in the days. I am surprised only Nikon introduced subject detection with MF lenses.
I bought the Neeewer adapter just because the Megadap etz21 didn't seem to work as you also found out. I followed your settings but with firmware 2.7, but on my Z8 and yes, it works. But the Megadap one still doesn't.
Cool. I was still wondering if the adapter also works on other Nikon cameras, which were released before the Nikon ZF.
As for now, I only found the Neewer adapter if this video and also the TTartisan MTZ 6Bit adapter, which work with non CPU lenses. :-)
This is also useful with m mount glass!
I have read about a TT Artisan 6 bit Adapter, which should fit M Mount lenses, would be a direkt way to conect both.
@@manugeeebut there’s no focus confirmation or F stop reading then correct?
Would this setup work on other Nikon Z cameras like say a Nikon Z5?
I cannot say for shure, if the Z5 can also do this. Some people said that their Z7 did it, but I have never seen it life. So maybe yes. :-D
So let me get this straight, I mount a ETZ adapter on the Zf body and then a Leica M to E adapter on that and I can use my vintage Leica lenses or third party lens like a Light Lens Lab or TTArtisan and retain focus confirmation and f stop recognition??? How?
Almost. You do not get f-stop recognition with this method. You only can set an f-mount number in the camera, but it is not connected to the lens and i noticed, that with too high f-stop values, the exposure gets off. (from f11 on) With M-Mount lenses there should be an TTArtisan Adapter with 6bit Coding. But I have no experience with that.
Probably a silly question, but will this Neewer ring work with a Nikon Zfc camera body too ?
Hi Andrew,
Not really a silly question. I honestly dont know the answer, because I have no ZFc. Some people said, that the green box funktion also worked with older Nikon "Z" Bodies, but I have never seen it in real life.
Greetings
Manu
Merci, Manu. In regard to (whichever) Nikon body is used - Zf, Zfc, I assume the Sony E component is also vital, prior to mounting any one of my M/f (non CPU) Nikkor lenses ? In truth, I've been so busy renovating a number of my manual lens collection over the last twelve months, I've hardly paid attention to TH-cam camera-related videos - hence my enquiries - À plus !
Andrew
@@andrewtongue7084 To use the Nikon Manual focussing green box function, the most important part is the Nikon to X adapter. In the neewer Case the X is Sony E Mount, but there is also a TTArtisan Leica M to Nikon Z Adapter with electronics, that does the same job. So there the X is Leica M.
Luckily there are a large number of the next stage of pure mechanical adapters from every vintage lens mount to either Sony E or Leica M.
So you have a little bit of choice here.
I also started to be less interested in the latest camera technology here on YT, because I found that more MP or better AF or tilty flippy screens don’t change the user experience that drastically over my A7 III, which I used intensively with MF lenses. Only the Nikon MF green Box and Eye detection feature sparked my interest again. Still I find the Sony fits better in my hand but the Nikon has better (and maybe unintended) MF usability. 😅
Merci, Manu 😃
The eye or face detection MF function works only on the Nikon ZF and Z6III. You can look into your menu, photo shooting menu, and look if there is a MF subject detection area sub menu. Or you could look into your manual or any manual to check this. (STRG + F in the PDF for the search function.)
For all other Nikon mirrorless cameras, you have the green confirmation box in MF with single AF in AF area mode, but not for the eye or face, and in the left lower corner like the DSLR confirmation. Like in the good old days, with the possibility to move your AF focus point in the frame as you wish. ATTENTION: 1. To get the green confirmation and the lower left confirmation, you need a lens (or a adapter like the neewer) with electronic contacts, like for example the old AF-D film era lenses. If you have a lens with electronic contacts, the Nikon FTZ I/II adapter works as mentioned above.
2. If you haven't a lens without any electronic contacts, you will get in manual focus only the help like the Sony A7III, with magnification and or with focus peaking. MAYBEE with this neewer adapter also the green confirmation box, but NO eye detection, besides the Zf and Z6III.
How do I use this method with lenses other than Nikon f mount, would I need to use a different sony adapter for each different lens manufacturer? Say I wanted to use canon lenses would I have to then use the sony to canon adapter ?
Yes, exactly! The trick is, to convert the Nikon into an E-Mount bayonet camera with the newer adapter. The electronic controls are between Nikon and neewer. And now you can use any old lens and get an adapter from „old lens“ to E-Mount.
Is the newer adapter good for auto focus Sony lenses? How is the af speed ?
Does face detection etc works well too?
To be honest, i havent yet tested the AF of the adapter with my Sony lenses. I used the Megadap ETZ 21 Pro, which seems to be fine and good enough for me, but i think native Z-Mount Nikon lenses could be a little bit faster. But as for now, i also only used the relatively old Zeiss 55mm 1.8. This Weekend I plan to mount the 24mm 1.4 GM on the camera and go out.
But so far, I dont know the Neewer AF Performance, yet.
Can you get the green focus confirmation box to work using the same solution but with the Z6 Camera?
Some people said, that it also works with older Z Cameras. I only have the ZF, so I cannot for shure say anything about the others.
Do have an Ftz adapter and an older CPU lens for testing? Because there with MF the confirmation also works, but only for CPU lenses. AI-S or older do not have the green box with Ftz adapters.
Does this only work with the Zf, or can it also work with any other Z models? Ie Z 6,7,8,9?
I am not really sure. Some people said, it should also work with older Z Cameras, but i have none and so don´t really know this.
Thank you Manu for this video. Very informative and I have subscribed to stay informed. Can I ask, is the Sony adapter (with the orange ring ) F mount to E mount? Also, this somehow works better than the FTZ adapter? I just bought a Nikon Fz camera and have several old Nikon Ais lenses to play with and the FTZII adapter. Thank you. Auf wiedersehen.
Thanks for the comment.
My Nikon F to Sony E Adapter (I think it’s from K&C Concept) is a pure mechanical adapter and has no electronics inside. It basically just clutches G Mount Glas into E-Mount cameras/ or Emount Adapters.
The Nikon FTZ adapter on the other hand is a mechanical connection and has electronic contacts. That means that AF-D ans AF-S Nikon Lenses can communicate with the camera. But the AF-D lenses need an external motor, so they cannot Autofocus with the FTZ adapters (I and II). But since they communicate, they also give the green MF confirmation box.
Unfortunately with older AI-S lenses, without a CPU inside, They also cannot communicate through the FTZ adapters and sadly don’t give the green MF confirmation.
I only found the newer adapter and lately the TTartisan Leica M to Nikon Z adapter, which provides MF configuration with non CPU lenses.
@@manugeee So, no firmware update yet from Nikon to address this. Thank you Manu for your help! Very much appreciated!
does this work with m42 lens to leica m + ttartisan m/z 6bit adapter ?
Yes, it does. :-)
Would this work with the FtZ adapter?
With Nikon AI-S and older non CPU lenses sadly not. But if you take the AF-D or AF-s lenses with CPU, you can also use them for Manual focussing with AF confirmation.
So how do i make this work on a Nikon z6 and vintage lenses? Thx
Without having it tested, someone mentioned in one of the other comments that the older Z-Cameras had also the same focus confirmation.
Thanks for the video..........ive found the Neewer ETZ adapter on B&H but need some advise on what adapter to get for my Nikkor 55:1.2 pre AI lens back to the Sony E mount?
You´re welcome. :)
I use the K&C Pro Adapter Nikon F to Sony E to couple it with the Neewer ETZ. Works pretty well and is a solid adapter.
Just keep in mind, that the neewer is not really fast with Sony E Mount Autofocus lenses, if this is important for you. Here the Megadap ETZ 21pro is better, but has no focus confirmation. And if you want IBIS, the neewer can do it with a firmware update, that is not released, but I am testing a beta version at the moment.
@@manugeee Thanks a lot mate, I just ordered both of the adapters from Amazon
Can you try if the eye detection would work? Is it detect eye and confirm it when it’s in focus?
In the later part of the video I also show the I detection with the Neewer Adapter. The Megadap on the other hand doesn´t have the focus confirmation at all.
Does the auto focus work well on moving subjects for vintage lenses ?
The autofocus with other Sony E Mount lenses is pretty slow. Tested it with the 24mm f1.4 Sony and cannot recommend to use it for AF. Here the Megadap is much better.
skip to about 5 min in to get to the heart of things
Thanks! I thought, i put in chapters, but they are definetly not there.
But of course I put a lot of effort into my introduction of the topic. So feel free to what that too. ;-)
Boa noite meu amigo. Se eu colocar uma lente manual sem contatos eletrônicos na ZF preciso ir em alguma parte do menu para liberar pra utilizar a abertura da lente? Ou é automático? Obrigado
Hi there, sorry, I don’t understand your question totally ans the auto translation was a little strange. I think you want to ask about the aperture value in the camera. You only can set it manually as a value on the front dial, but at larger values above f5.6 the exposure behaviour gets a little off. I choose to not put the right values in during my shoots.
Did I get your question? :-)
Cheers
@@manugeee obrigado. A pergunta era se a ZF reconhece automaticamente uma lente manual sem contato eletrônico, ou precisamos ir no menu liberar para usar a lente?
The only issue I see is the camera body does not know the focal length of the lens you are using so IBIS isn't going to work properly for all focal lengths. If you use a chipped adapter like the neewer, it won't allow you to utilize non-cpu lens data. Or does it??
you must tell the camera which non-cpu lens you are using via the menu
Actually I checked it. Even if the non CPU lens is added, you cannot activate the IBIS, unfortunately. I dont know why, but I will ask the Neewer Support. It is okay for shorter focal lenght, but even for longer lenses IBIS is very usefull, as I learned with my Sony.
@@carlosandreviana9448 But you're not using a non-cpu lens anymore once you put a chipped adapter on the camera, even if you have a non cpu lens in front of the chipped adapter, the camera is assuming you have a chipped lens attached that isn't reporting the focal length, making the camera ignore the "non cpu lens data" menu input.
How does the ZF know the focal length of the lens? (For ibis)
It doen´t with the tested Firmware. The IBIS is actually not active. I reached out to Neewer and got a Beta Firmware, that activates IBIS. But I need some more time to check it out. I found one text file on the adapter with focal length information, and the non CPU Data in the camera. Neewer did not answer my question very well, where to change the info, but I will investigate, when i have more time.
@@manugeee Thanks for the update! I noticed the text file too, and I wonder if just cahning it would do the trick - but at the same time I am sure that would not work.
I also reached out to Neewer, and got an equally cryptic response. Updating firmware to 2.70 supposedly fixes IBIS, but how to change the focal length remains a mystery. They said it is in the text file, and can be changed - but neglected to tell me how. I just tried manually changing the parameters on the text file, but not surprisingly I just got an error message when trying to replace the existing txt file with an altered one. It’s a crock of ****, to be sure.
@@snoogly yesterday, I tried out just to change the focal length values (set to 400) and had an noticeable effect on the IBIS performance with the 50mm lens still attached.
I just edited the value but also copied the whole section to add a second lens in hope that I can switch between both. But last one had no effect. Error messages were also not shown.
My firmware is also 2.6. so you have a newer update.
Would it be possible to add a custom focal length? I have a 43mm lens I'd like to use with focus confirmation and IBIS
We need an executive summary!
I have made an update video on this adapter and features provided with a beta firmware version.
But to make it short: It works, as explained. I only noticed, that i cannot set up high apperture values on the camera, because then the exposure gets off. Also high apperture values on the lens let the exposure change a little with automatic exposure setups. A little strange, but you can compensate with the exposure compensation dial.
I was able to do this with the AFD CPU chipped lenses on my Z6 & I liked it a lot. However, I liked my DSLRs better than the Z6, so I just sold my Z6 and I hope to buy a Zf sometime in future when they get cheaper. I’m back with D3s & D3X for now (with a D610 on order.)
oha! nice!
Freut mich, dass es dich freut. Du hast mich auf den Trichter gebracht und ich hab mich gefreut, wie´n Schnitzel, als ich die "von hinten durch die Brust ins Auge" Lösung gefunden habe.
Also Danke dafür. :-)
I hope Megadap adds this feature to the ETZ21 Pro
Does this mean that the Zf itself could have this feature through a firmware release??
I dont know, what the Nikon needs to activate the feature. But it does not seem to be that much. Maybe just some Bits need to be active to activate the feature. Maybe the Bits need to be send from the lens Pin inputs.
Hi my adapters arrived they are exactly the same ones that you have everything is working with my Pre AI Nikkor 55:1.2 lens but I still cant get the green conformation box when the camera is in focus..........what do you recommend that I do
Hi Neil,
It hard to say from the far why you don’t get the confirmation.
I would start analytically.
Which camera do you use? (Also some people said that older bodies also should work)
What firmware update have camera and adapter?
Did you check all the settings, I also posted in my video?
Is maybe the 55 1:2 to soft wide open? Does it work at f2.8 or at f4?
If you get it working please
Let me know and tell me what you had to change.
Cheers manu
It’s working now. Once I did all the in body menu changes as per your video it’s started working 🙏🙏🙏
I did the same and unfortunately the two adapters got jammed together so both adapters are ruined. (luckily not the lens) I suspect it might be due to the slim eject mechanism on the EtoZ adapter failing. To those who want to do this, beware of the risks.
You mean, you cant remove the Neewer adapter from the "Other-to-Sony" Adapter when pushing the knob up?
I also do not like the Neewer release mechanism that much, but I had no Problems with releasing it, so far. Did you contact Neewer?
It totally doesn't matter. Focus confirmation is made irrelevant using manual lens AF adapter Techart TZM-02 (unless it's a lens with floating elements or too heavy).
Yes, that’s true. Though i never tested this adapter, it is a viable option and you get AF with vintage lenses.
But that is actually not my point. If I want AF, I would not use some vintage lenses with adapter. I would get modern lenses from any modern brand.
For me photography is my hobby and here i want to enjoy the process. Manual focussing is a much more haptical and self rewarding experience. When the focus is spot on, then because I have nailed it. Also it’s a lot of fun to explore old vintage lenses.
Is definitely not the best and most effective way today, but from my point of view the most enjoyable. 😁
thats nice, yet even my old Olympus E300 can do that
It was already mentioned in another comment, that also the old Canon EF Cameras could to this, and I also still have a chip from when I used 3D Printed parts to build Canon fd Lenses into EF Mount lenses.
But today with mirrorless cameras and the very much smaller flange distances Adapting vintage lenses is much more easy and powerfull. Also the subject detection functions make manual focussing so much more usefull and accurate.
Ok, my 2 cents worth... Having looked through the ZF EVF, I disagree. I think Nikon missed a trick with its low res EVF. I think the best camera to use vintage lenses is the A7R5 - the EVF is that good that you dont need annoying focusing aids. Focus just snaps into clarity. Its similar experience to the old SLRs that had ground glass screens I guess. I refuse to go back to a camera with a lower spec.
To be honest, I was a little dissappointet about the A7R5 EVF. When it was released, I thought that this will be my perfect next camera, but when I took it into my hands, the whole camera did not fit me, to be honest.
The Nikon Viewfinder is okay. Definetly Better than the SOny A7III ones. And it does not reduce resolution, when half pressing the trigger, which I found very disturbing.
@@manugeee For manual lenses the Sony EVF doesn't reduce resolution, so no difference there. For AF lenses I don't really care about the slight loss of image quality. Once you setup the correct profiles for sharpness and contrast, the Mk5 EVF is just a lovely experience.
no problems using the evf and getting focused images with manual lenses on the Zf. And I own several
@@carlosandreviana9448 I never claimed you couldn't. Do you need to use the focus aids?
@@Fat-totoro-cat of course
What he neglects to mention is that the adapter reports all non cpu lenses as being 50mm. This means incorrect exif info, and wrong ibis settings. It’s a real shame he wasn’t more honest about this, as surely he tried it with lenses other than 50mm …
You can (and have to) change the non-cpu lens data in the camera. This will also - very importantly - change the vibration reduction
@@scottastic6428 It makes no difference. The adapter cannot work in conjunction with non cpu lens settings. It always sees non cpu lenses as 50mm.
We should tell him to make an update on this video, because in the test, he also did not notice, that the IBIS was deactivated and he has to contact neewer, to get a beta firmware to actively use the IBIS. Also he should investigate more, where exactly he has to chance the focal lenght settings, as it seems, to be written into a text file on the adapter. But it could also be on the non CPU Lenses. He is maybe a little busy at the moment, but if someone would tell him to check about all this stuff, would be great.
@@manugeee😅👍 Really interesting! Looking forward to where the journey goes and maybe neewer sees the opportunity for making an actually unique product! Danke für deine Arbeit!
Thank you so much for the post, it’s a game changer for me with this additional aid. I purchased the one you recommended and can confirm that it works on the zf out of the box as well as the olderx Z cameras. Z7 and z50 works fine.
Ah! That is cool, that it also works with the older Z-Cameras. Thanks for the Info. :D
I noticed that the IBIS is not working with this software, but I asked Neewer and got a Beta Firmware, that activates also IBIS. Pretty cool.
@@manugeee please keep us up to date if there are changes and hope to see that take effect on the new version of the firmware.