My favourite lens for the Nikon Zf
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 มิ.ย. 2024
- The manual and analogue nature of the Nikon Zf perfectly suits a lens like the new Thypoch Simera 28mm. But how does it perform in combination? Does it hold up on the street? I tested it thoroughly, and present my thoughts here!
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►CHAPTER MARKERS
00:00 - Intro
01:40 - Pre-production note
01:56 - Main features
03:09 - Low light samples
03:45 - Performance summary
04:54 - Street photography
07:17 - Adapting to the Zf
09:37 - Criticisms/Cons
10:38 - Who is it for?
11:29 - Conclusion
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Note: I mentioned that the demo unit has a silver front ring, as opposed to production units. I received word from a Thypoch rep that production units would also have a silver ring. A lot of images online show a full-black lens, and I had initially received conflicting information! So, it's probably best to check with your preferred place of purchase for confirmation.
I'm very disappointed that they are losing the option of the full black version of the Simera 28mm. I was going to buy one but what is it with these lens companies that insist on putting the silver ring on the front. One reason I dislike some of my Voigtlanders. Oh well, I'm hoping they reverse their decision and release the full black versions again. If not, I'll just have to put a filter in front of it to hide as much as I can the silver ring.
Insightful stuff! Really informative review. Great presentation on this 🙌
Great combo. The images look beautiful.
Great info, and the photography is even better. Cheers!
Glad you liked it!
Love that they are coming out with more lens choices for M and Z mounts! Thypoch seems like a great buy especially if you are also a Zf and M6 shooter!
Very informative video. I like the look of the images. It's a refreshing departure from the clinical images most modern Japanese and German lenses produce.
Thanks!
German lens not clinical. Look at zeiss and leica
100% buying this lens. Affordable , sharp , has character. Exactly what i want
the depth of field scale is a copy of the Kern Switar lenses made for Alpa and Bolex cameras, one of the coolest features to see being brought back
Very nice photography! Did you have a chance to try also some Leica m glass on the Zf?
Very exciting
Would be happy to hear more about the focussing adaptor ; not for the 28mm but for the 50mm and above
I made a casual video talking about it on my personal channel (link in bio of this video). I used it with my Zeiss Sonnar 50 1.5, AF + eye tracking was really great.
Nice, thanks!
I recently got the K&F Concept m39 screw mount adaptor for the Zf so lookforward to trying out my Canon 50mm f1.4 LTM (Canon Summilux) and Jupiter 8 lenses on it versus my Nikkor 40mm f2. Just trying some indoor still life comparisons it looks like the Canon lens has more chromatic aberration than the others. And its close-focus in one meter!
That Nikon Zf looks good in that colour scheme,
Always enjoy your reviews. I do wonder how this compares with the new Voigtlander 35mm 1.5?
Thanks! Yeah I'll be curious to know the same.
Nice stuffs mate! Does the tzm02 adpater work with the well known Eyes tracking on manuel with the Simera lens? Thank you
I've been waiting for this 28mm and the new Voigtlander 28mm 1.5... I've got the voigtlander in route to me now... Curious to see how the two compare to one another... Assuming the voigtlander is of quality to other voigtander lenses, I may stick with it instead of trying to Typoch... I like that the voigtlander appears (on paper at least) noticebly lighter and smaller as well as has a focus tab... we shall see... appreciate the review here! It's great there are more and more third party options for M mount shooters... really helps in building out a nice kit with different focal lengths
Yeah it's an interesting approach they went with offering the two variants! Agreed, it's good to have options :-)
Thank you for sharing
Thanks for watching!
It's pretty great that we get a bunch of choices now with very high quality affordable lenses coming out of China. Competition is good and will keep the regular lens manufacturers on their game as well!
Except for Canon, that is. ha
Great review. Wonder how did the Nikon Zf IBIS work with this lens? The night photos were really nice.
I didn't test it thoroughly but it seemed to be working fine. Even the continuous AF in video worked! Thank you 🙂
Nice video thx, did you try to use this lens with a 61 M pixel sensor ?
Nice pictures with the ZF. I received my 35mm last Wednesday and tested it on my M2, Sony a6700 and tried to mount it to my Panasonic GX9 but that didn’t work. The element sticking out of the back of the lens doesn’t allow to fix it on the GX9 with an adapter. The results with the M2 are very nice (lomography lady grey). I have the feeling that infinity isn’t exactly at the infinity mark. On the Sony the lens is hard to focus exactly. Probably I need to practice more with it. On the silver M6 the silver lens looks absolutely great… Have a nice day.
I see! apparently it's not compatible with the Leica M3 according to their website. And yeah, adapting lenses often causes some issues, unfortunately. Thanks for watching!
Hi, did you notice if on the Sony the edges and corners were not sharp? The usual story is M-mount don't play nice in this regard with Sony sensors. Thanks.
i am strongly considering this lens will be interesting how it compares to the new Nokton 28 1.5
Yeah I'm curious to see how that performs in comparison! I do like the included hood and overall value for the features with this one, though. (also glad they moved away from the chrome ring on the demo I used 😅 Not a fan of that)
The summilux 28 f1.4 have more C.A and is very difficult to fix in post.....thanks for this review, looks a very interesting lens with no C.A and beautiful rendering
Regards.
Thanks for watching!
Excellent review. Wish they made native Z lenses
Yes! An auto-iso option on the physical dial would've made the Zf perfect.
they can still implement it in firmware if enough people complain
This guy shares an interesting solution in this video. He caps auto iso at 200 then the ISO dial functions to increase the cap. So setting the iso dial to 400 lets the iso float between 100-400 for example. Setting the dial to 100-200 won’t make a difference since that is within the set range. It’s not the perfect solution since it’s still in auto but gives you easy and fast control over the auto iso settings. th-cam.com/video/q4ITso5Krt8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=5pWlAKATkB07rYl8
most nikon users are used to how the auto iso is on the camera. when you shoot fast and always adjusting the settings you don't mess with the dials. I can shoot the zf just like my z8 for events. I guess multi-system users might get confused shooting other brands. It is muscle memory for regular nikon shooters.
I set iso dial to custom, shutter dial to 1/3 step, set f7 to ON, then program video record to iso. I shoot manual and control shutter, aperture and iso on the fly with the front and rear wheels and the programmed iso button.
With adapter is zone focusing accurate? Been thinking replacing my m262 with zf but concern about zone focusing for street
The ZF does have auto-iso on the dial, it's C.. On the shutter turn it to 1/3 step
Are all the photos SOOC or after post processing?
Hopefully make a z mount. Lens adapters always eventually have issues.
I'm interested, but I would need a screw mount for my besa.
great movie
Samulel Streetlife had trouble with the Urth adaptor for the 28mm on his Zf. It focused past infinity so the depth of field scale was thrown way off. He switched to an adaptor that allowed you to adjust infinity focus and that fixed the problem.
Seems to be a very common issue for Urth adapters…
Urth adapters are trash. The best are Shoten and Rayqual, but the latter are very expensive.
@@n1ngnuo - I use three Urth CY-N adapters for my Contax lenses on my Z6 II. They were beautifully. Their samples may vary, but my three samples are most excellent.
Yeah urth is trash. They look good and come in nice sustainable packaging, but the fact that the adapter is so bad you want to throw it away kinda beats the point of sustainability
@@n1ngnuofotasy adapters are a hidden gem.
what's the focus ring's rotation angle?
Great video was these pics straight out of Nikon Zf!? Thanks
These were mostly edited! My initial Zf review shows mostly SOOC jpegs if you want an idea of that.
@@pushingfilm cheers big man, I am deciding weather to go for the Fuji GfX 50s Vs the ZF I think I'm now going for the GfX...
@@pushingfilm actually what do you think between GFX 50s and ZF I think that's quite a good comparison... Thoughts appreciated..
Does anyone know how to remove the lens adapter again from the lens? Mine is a newer adapter and it has a lock-in pin but I can't see how to remove it.
You should try the Voigtlander m mount 40mm 1.2. It’s incredible on the ZF with the tt artisans 6 bit adapter.
Yeah it looks great!
What lens, camera and setting you set to shoot your video of you in your room? The colour is cinematic yet it doesn't overdo and the blue of the background doesn't overdo too although I like everything to be in focus!
Hey, I use the R6 and accessories listed in the description. Settings-wise it varies... but usually 4K 25fps, 1/50th shutter, and a shallow depth of field on the lens.
@@pushingfilm what is the setting for the colour, log and some preset or sooc?
There are good reasons why lens helicoid barrels don’t have open holes drilled in them.
That focus scale reminds me of old Bolex Kern Switar lenses
Yeah it was probably inspired by those!
@9:03 Can you not set Custom ISO to be auto ISO?
My suggestion to get an 24mm afd 2.8 and an adapter and work best on Zf, enjoying mine so much more than the Nikons Z 28 mm
Do you mean Nikon 24mm AF-D? thanks
Does the Techart adapter need a firmware update before it works on a zf body? I have a ttartisan 6 bit adapter that works on a z6 ii but won't work on zf.
It might. Mine didn't... but may have already been updated by the guys who loaned it to me.
Thanks!@@pushingfilm
How would you rate the 35mm version to the Voigtlander 35mm APO for the zf?
Not sure! I don't have any experience with that one, sorry.
Unfortunately a lot of the cool Nikon Zf manual focusing aids won't work with adapted Leica M lenses because they don't have elecrical contacts that for example the Voigtlander Nikon Z have - like for example the very nice "focus confirmation" that changes the color of the focus point to green if you focus correctly. Hope Nikon will release a firmware update to make that feature available also for manual focus lenses without electrical contacts.
Maybe I should check out the Techart adapter.
The 6-bit adapter made by ttartisans works great!
Do they have the TTArtisan one for Nikon?
That would be cool if it is indeed possible via firmware! Might be a limitation of the technology though. Seems like the TTartisans 6-bit adapter is the best option if you don't need AF.
@@pushingfilm and the techart
How would they even accomplish that with a fw upgrade tho
Nice review and fantastic shots. What colour settings or post processing are you doing, especially for the street shooting?
Thanks! I shoot raw, then edit in Lightroom and use various presets or DxO software like Filmpack (link in the description).
@@pushingfilm thanks for the reply. I look forward to more videos 👍
@@pushingfilmbeen eyeing that software for a while tbh
Enjoyed the review. Where is Thypoch based? Where are the lenses manufactured? When a company does not make this information readily available on their website I have to wonder if it is intentional.
Im more interested in how the Zf handles manual focus in general. Im not interested in adaptors that auto focus a manual lens. But id love to be able to use my M lenses on a Z mount camera.
I use an analog M, a digital M, and have added the Zf. The Zf handles manual focus lenses beautifully! The best part is when you have face and eye recognition on and can “punch and zoom” directly to the focus point. With coded lenses like the Nikon Z mount lenses (yes, we all wish they had aperture rings) or the Voigtlander 28mm f mount lens, you can get focus confirmation features using manual focus as well. I too find it a little quirky to alternate with the tech art between auto and manual focus, with the edge always leaning towards the autofocus method. But it is a great adapter. Maybe I will get a second adapter for manual focus only…
I can say I quite enjoyed it, overall. The big thing that bugs me is the placement of the "magnify" buttons on the Zf. Perhaps it could be set to something more convenient. (I also like to have one button to both punch in and out, as per the "set" button on some Canons, or clicking the joystick). But, zone focusing was pretty fun.
You can customize the large button in the center for punch zoom in and out. It comes originally set to recenter the focus point. I do agree that the location of the magnify is not ideal but that little change helps.
@@pushingfilmI just have the ok button as my zoom button
@@Cleverconveyence exactly: one push to zoom in, a second push to zoom out
Wish these were made for mirrorless mounts, corrected for thicker sensor stacks.
It's odd these Chinese lenses are primarily made for Leica rangefinder when most people shoot mirrorless.
:robably for versatility and wide appeal, since Leica lenses can be mounted to many other cameras.
@@pushingfilm 50mm can be, but anything much wider and the sensor stack is too thick on the likes of Sony.
It's why 7Artisans made the 1.4/28 FE-Plus. Still in M-mount and had to be adapted, but it was corrected for the Sony sensor stack.
Thanks for this review. This lens has a soft-nostalgic character, some people will find it attractive, especially on Leica cameras. You got really nice photos with it.
My experience with cheaper Chinese lenses is not very good.
There are foolish design flaws like the uneven aperture scale that make you understand that these are not accurate instruments as they should be. Calibration problems may also occur.
I don't know about this new brand, I guess according to the price it should be better than others.
Time will tell.
By the way, there is a Voigtlander Ultron 28mm F2 MkII for about the same price. The Ultron may not be F1.4, but it is a FANTASTIC lens worth mentioning and considering.
It looks cool and I kinda want it but at the same time I don’t even open up my Elmarit to 2.8 ever 😂
Yeah it might not be worth it then!
Voigtlander 28mm f/1.5 Nokton Vintage coming at CP+.
I'm itching for this Voigtlander....
I’m sure you’re aware by now, but that’s not a focus tab it’s a focus lock, similar to the ones on LTM lenses.
And the DOF mechanism was taken from Alpa Kern lens.
their optical formula looks just like the 7 artisan and mr ding Chinese lenses with the same bokeh , just rehoused
Not a single mention of the fact that this lens, like all m-mount lenses are designed to be used on Leica cameras that have a much thinner sensor stack than other mirrorless cameras and that adapting it to e-mount or a-mount will result in sub-optimal optical performance. The midzone dip and abysmal edge sharpness due to induced field curvature means that on Sony and Nikon bodies you will need to stop the lens down past f/5.6 to reach acceptable sharpness across the frame. The 7Artisans 28mm f/1.4 FE+ is a better option for Sony shooters that want to adapt an m-mount lens but most people, including Nikon shooters would be better off just buying the native mount Laowa and Viltrox options.
there is no after-sales service at tech art I do not recommend the adapters of this brand
Not another Chinese lens company🤦♂️ 👎
Sorry about the brain worms, hope that gets better!
Yes, unfortunately. I am not into Chinese companies and therfore I am avoiding made in China. Think they are 👎🤦. Yes, I am adamittingly a sinophobe.
@@CleverconveyenceLOL
I think if a video title is "My favorite lens for Nikon ZF" is only reviewing the one lens and not comparing it to another one, two or three similar products, then you become an influencer. People read the title and think "Oh, this is the best lens of all time, I'm gonna rush out and get it". Frankly, the images didn't blow up my skirt so to speak. I think its good but the Zeiss 35mm 1.4 is best, followed by Voightlander 35mm 1.2.
Chromatic Aberrations are in lenses by design as it gives an image DEPTH or dimensionality. They're even putting in lens aberrations to video games to give the gamers a more cinematic experience, and I've seen CA's switched on and off in video games and the CA's on creates more depth and ambience to the video footage, but takes away a small amount of sharpness. Lens flares, lens bloom, anamorphic flares and CA's have made their way into video game production and even CGI video/movie footage. Just as a 3D movie at the cinema requires the viewers to wear 3D glasses that are separate red and blue lenses, that same effect is done down a single lens resulting in more depth, but the consequence of purple fringing (Red + Blue = purple) on high contrast edges. But nowadays most professional photographers do not want to see purple fringing because they have no clue why they are there, and demand lenses without purple fringing, so lenses are now clinically sharp and produce sterile images that lack ambience or that cinematic feel. So now y'all have to buy mist filters to simulate lens aberrations like bloom that take away sharpness and contrast to make images look more cinematic.