To be frank, I would rather be put out of my misery if I sounded like that, especially if it was the result of a hostile takeover beyond my control because no joke, the snoring sounds more animatronic than human.
I believe I said this in the video, but yes, the magic wears off quite fast when you are confronted with the sight of these rotting corpses gasping and weezing for air
But that’s what the WAU does. It won’t LET you die. It would keep you from fading away regardless of the consequences. It’s one goal; its only purpose… is to keep humanity alive at ANY COST. Whether that’s reanimating a brain scan of a human and putting it in a robot body, or filling you with structure gel that slowly replaces your flesh, your lungs, your mind. It will stop you from ceasing to exist in any way it can. You can’t die. You can’t be put out of your misery. To the WAU, you must be kept ‘alive’.
I think it's rather odd that many people simply oversee the dreamers and the possibility of having a peak into their dreams. Technically, the WAU managed to put them into their own arks and thus pretty much proves that it is learning to understand human desires. For me that finally was the main argument for not killing the WAU at the end of the story.
For me there is also Simon being a creation that isn’t monstrous as the others and is sane Individual who isn’t stuck to WAU like other people like Amy or Carl. But Also Johan is example of Wau bring the original person back to life and not a copy. I see people like Simon and Johan as WAU testing and getting close to creating or bringing back people in self substantially way, along with wildlife report showing endanger species and extinct sea life population rising back up, I believe Overtime The Wau would bring back life and also Humanity Back, it obviously wouldn’t how we would envision it but it would a heavy modified Human made to survive harsh deep ocean till it one day safe to return to back to land
@@spinozilla2421 Glad to see more people like you who also came to the conclusion, that those abominations such as Akers are not the final form of what WAU would bring back as "human".
SOMA is like one of those games that you can never stop learning about because of how much stuff the creators packed into it. I can only aspire to be like them
I really wished the devs kept Aker’s monologue. It would make him so much creepier with the revelation he never devolved into a mindless monster. Also, Ashley looks horrifying with a rotted-off maggot-infested face.
the model was meant for scrapped scene in much earlier part of the development to the game, as there was meant to be more than likely some nightmareish scenario happening, yet as we can't see the face in that small cutscene in final game, we never see the creepy face
Terry was ironically kind of a good guy (if the dreams were going as planned). He basically did exactly what Simon and Cath did, excpet with the original people instead of a copied consciousness with a subtle lie attached to it. He also makes a painfully obvious, painfully real truth. "This dead world is not worth saving." Also holy shit I thought the yellow shirted ones were female
Dreams can induce a sense of peace, that is until they become a strangling nightmare that you pray to wake up from. Would death be a better outcome? The mysterious peace of death taken away from the unwary and unwilling. Who knows, but always remember that not all dreams are happy.
WOLFCL0CK SPOTTED, good to see you in the Soma community as well And absolutely agreed, every now and then i go through this channel's entire catalog of videos again, Frictional really knows how to make some freaky characters!
I just replayed SOMA for the 3rd time like 2 weeks ago, my faw game of all time. So glad you're publishing these now. I can learn much better man. THE LORE EXPANDS!
I think its the complete opposite of what you are saying. His state of mind is PERFECT but the fact he is still just a PC with 2 cameras and a microphone (i.e his existence) makes him.still just another curious experiment and not the solution for humam survival. He may be a person (maybe). but he is not a human
@josuealejandro4961 Unless the WAU perfects putting human brain scans into machines, reviving actual human beings seems like an impossibility. The only real way forward is for the WAU is to perfect the process of putting brainscans into machines. Eventually, they could maybe figure out a way to clone human beings with the DNA from the staff at Pathos II and maybe there'd be enough be a big enough gene pool for repopulation. Either that, or there could be an army of robots that slowly fix the Earth. It would at least be something.
Simon would be okay in the wau dreamscape. He has no physical body so pain would not be a factor to him. He already has a copy of himself at the ark and is now stuck in endless darkness until the battery of his suit or the wau he if or not killed the WAU
Im guessing the Maggot Face Ashley looks that way as Simon is fighting back agasint the Dream, as he knows it fake as he shouldnt be back in his apartment and knows She is dead thus the dream gets corrupted as he realizes this can’t be true, if he didn’t question it and accepted it i would assume Ashley would look normal and everything would be fine as along as he plays alongs with it.
@@spinozilla2421 Good point. It would seem the maggots are a way of him realizing its a fake scenario, im guessing if he does accept the dream it would be back to normal. Other than anything else what else does he have to loose? id rather be in a Lucid dream than be in darkness for who knows how long until the body I am occupying rots away or the battery finally gives out. Who knows maybe the Wau inside simons suit in the end of game creates him into a proxy so all that fighting for nothing
Honestly that's not the worst fate you can have in this world, at least your mind is still inside your body, and you'll never learn what you have become
"The blue pill, you stay in wonderland". IMO that is a valid choice, depending on who you are, would you be able to live in an unpredictable chaotic world, or a predictable stable world where "you can cause no harm and no harm to you, I'm sure you can imagine there are worse alternatives"
Yeah I think I'd rather take that than wandering the empty halls of an underwater prison as a constantly in pain biomechanical abomination, or living inside a videogame that might get shut down any moment by a passing asteroid. May I remind you that in both of those cases you're also aware that somewhere out there there's a copy of you that might be having it better/worse off than you?
Thank You, I´m quite proud of this one, I hope to somewhat maintain this level of quality in the future even if that means that the gaps between videos get longer
Sub earned been binge watching all of these videos I played SOMA for the first time in 2019 and still think about it to this day, I also love the amnesia games but the sci-fi horror gets to me a lot and SOMA was the most emotional game.
It's not, the model was reused. Originally it was supposed to be Simon's sister, in a nightmare sequence where Simon stands at his mother's grave and Ashley is there too, but her face is covered with worms. The idea was scrapped, and making models is time-consuming, and since she doesn't turn around and Simon doesn't stand up either during the WAU dream, you wouldn't notice a thing.
Yes it is actually like that, but you never see it, since her back is turned. As eloi pointed out, it's a reused asset from a cut sequence. Probably has no significance in the final version of the game, but it is an eerie detail nonetheless. I would imagine that it doesn't matter whether the WAU knows what she looked like, as it would be creating dreams from Simon's own memories anyway.
It’s such a shame you can’t interact with almost none of the characters, it would have been cool if there was an interact menu like the one in red dead redemption, to try to talk with them and ask them things, and maybe try to wake them up
I know it might be a bit much for these style of videos but.. Are you going to go through each map in the frictional games to showcase secrets and/or stuff that we normally couldn't see? Aka noclipping through each map?
Well currently I´m working on the MS Curie and the Cassandra Wreck were I´m doing a bit of out-of-bounds exploration since there aren´t so many singular models left to discuss I feel like that kind of thing might pay off quite a bit in Rebirth and SOMA, since the maps in both games are really vast compared to the other titles... the software I´m currently using isn´t too ideal for that but maybe I can figure out how to debug the games, we will see, with Christmas rolling closer and me having to manage my Job as well chances are I will have to slow down the upload rate in the foreseeable future again but if there is an interest then I´m happy to continue
how can you hear the dreamer's dreams? i only hear the corpses breathing after being plugged into the mind coral... perhaps i am not listening to the right corpses
ingame it´s a bit difficult to hear, since their voices are accompanied by a strange static noise, there are also long intervalls between each monologue and it´s not always possible to stay near them and listen since the Proxies are on the prowl in that area
but thats the thing... you don't accept the dreams, because they are just dreams there is difference in winning in "reality" and winning just by magically things getting better... some people maybe will accept that, BUT will you? knowing it is a dream and NOTHING change for nnyone just you alone becaus you feel better?
Akers was right. Catherine lied. The guy who killed her spared the crew the realization that they launched The Sims into space while they're left to die on the sea floor.
@@ewerton8463well I suppose they aren´t really alive and their bodies are probably decomposing, but the WAU replaces the necessary tissue with it´s growths and forces the Lungs to pump air and maintains the circulation, as if they were still alive
You know, its been literal years since I was familiar with soma. It honestly bothers me that the crew never at any point considered going back up to the surface. Its entirely possible that there is something that im forgetting that would explain why they didn't, but as far as I remember the impact is over. And as much as most large surface life is probably completely gone, the thing is life is really, **really** stuborn. There would be things that survived. Life would oh so slowly recover. And as for the Hazzards such as valcanoc ash making the air dangerous, that could be circumvented by technology. Hazmats, dust and fume masks, ect. So why didn't they go back up? Even if humanity as a speicies was doomed and wouldn't be able to repopulate, I would think that at least some of the scientists would want to study the life that was fighting to reclaim the surface. Like, unless the oceans all boiled and all landmasses were flattened, *something* would survive. And if the surface really was that level of destroyed, then I don't think that ocean base wouldn't have survived either. Idk. I feel like in that kind of situation, I'd would have wanted to go back to the surface if for no other reason than to see what life was still finding a way in the wreckage.
Radiation, Carbondioxide and a few other reasons if I recall one of them, Antje Coetze actually did go up to the surface on foot to live out her final days on the surface station Omega
I played this game every single year since it came out and I will until I go, and yet there is still so much to learn about it. How do you get in game what they dream about? I had playthroughs where I stayed close to them for minutes on end and nothing happened, no dialogue, no murmuring.
only some of them talk and only after Akers has ambushed you, the first will be located in the tram right were you wake up, from there the rest can be found near the Proxies that roam the halls
@@umukzusgelos4834 Oh I know where they are, but no matter how long I kept near them, they never talked. Does this change between normal game and wuss mode, I wonder. I played both, but still saw no difference.
He's a well educated southern former hillbilly that just can't shake the accent. It clearly didn't stop him from getting a position on the crew (or jabbing everyone with gel)
To be frank, I would rather be put out of my misery if I sounded like that, especially if it was the result of a hostile takeover beyond my control because no joke, the snoring sounds more animatronic than human.
I believe I said this in the video, but yes, the magic wears off quite fast when you are confronted with the sight of these rotting corpses gasping and weezing for air
Naw just drink some water, that's a _crusty_ ass throat making that noise
But that’s what the WAU does. It won’t LET you die. It would keep you from fading away regardless of the consequences.
It’s one goal; its only purpose… is to keep humanity alive at ANY COST.
Whether that’s reanimating a brain scan of a human and putting it in a robot body, or filling you with structure gel that slowly replaces your flesh, your lungs, your mind.
It will stop you from ceasing to exist in any way it can. You can’t die. You can’t be put out of your misery.
To the WAU, you must be kept ‘alive’.
Now that you mention it, it is eerily similar to the moaning and gasping I think heard in the first five nights at Freddy’s game.
I think it's rather odd that many people simply oversee the dreamers and the possibility of having a peak into their dreams.
Technically, the WAU managed to put them into their own arks and thus pretty much proves that it is learning to understand human desires. For me that finally was the main argument for not killing the WAU at the end of the story.
It´s sort of a Matrix situation in a way, there are many ways to look at it
We can thank Terry for that
For me there is also Simon being a creation that isn’t monstrous as the others and is sane Individual who isn’t stuck to WAU like other people like Amy or Carl. But Also Johan is example of Wau bring the original person back to life and not a copy. I see people like Simon and Johan as WAU testing and getting close to creating or bringing back people in self substantially way, along with wildlife report showing endanger species and extinct sea life population rising back up, I believe Overtime The Wau would bring back life and also Humanity Back, it obviously wouldn’t how we would envision it but it would a heavy modified Human made to survive harsh deep ocean till it one day safe to return to back to land
@@spinozilla2421 Glad to see more people like you who also came to the conclusion, that those abominations such as Akers are not the final form of what WAU would bring back as "human".
I just spared it because I didn't want my hand to be ripped off lmao
SOMA is like one of those games that you can never stop learning about because of how much stuff the creators packed into it. I can only aspire to be like them
I really wished the devs kept Aker’s monologue. It would make him so much creepier with the revelation he never devolved into a mindless monster.
Also, Ashley looks horrifying with a rotted-off maggot-infested face.
the model was meant for scrapped scene in much earlier part of the development to the game, as there was meant to be more than likely some nightmareish scenario happening, yet as we can't see the face in that small cutscene in final game, we never see the creepy face
god i love that how nearly a decade later were still discovering all these things about the game
Terry was ironically kind of a good guy (if the dreams were going as planned). He basically did exactly what Simon and Cath did, excpet with the original people instead of a copied consciousness with a subtle lie attached to it. He also makes a painfully obvious, painfully real truth.
"This dead world is not worth saving."
Also holy shit I thought the yellow shirted ones were female
They actually look quite reminiscent of Junji Ito's main character in Long Dream story
it's true!
Yep, I seen it on screen and wandered about lore of these. Would be cool if it was somehow connected or something.
i wonder if Scorn is what this scenario eventually evolves into.
Dreams can induce a sense of peace, that is until they become a strangling nightmare that you pray to wake up from. Would death be a better outcome? The mysterious peace of death taken away from the unwary and unwilling. Who knows, but always remember that not all dreams are happy.
Well spoken
I must say, the production quality of these videos is great.
WOLFCL0CK SPOTTED, good to see you in the Soma community as well
And absolutely agreed, every now and then i go through this channel's entire catalog of videos again, Frictional really knows how to make some freaky characters!
I just replayed SOMA for the 3rd time like 2 weeks ago, my faw game of all time. So glad you're publishing these now. I can learn much better man. THE LORE EXPANDS!
I´m glad when people enjoy my work
Ironically, Simon's whole existence is the best argument for the WAU to stay alive.
and at the same time his unstable state of mind the best argument against it
I think its the complete opposite of what you are saying.
His state of mind is PERFECT but the fact he is still just a PC with 2 cameras and a microphone (i.e his existence) makes him.still just another curious experiment and not the solution for humam survival.
He may be a person (maybe). but he is not a human
@josuealejandro4961 Unless the WAU perfects putting human brain scans into machines, reviving actual human beings seems like an impossibility. The only real way forward is for the WAU is to perfect the process of putting brainscans into machines. Eventually, they could maybe figure out a way to clone human beings with the DNA from the staff at Pathos II and maybe there'd be enough be a big enough gene pool for repopulation. Either that, or there could be an army of robots that slowly fix the Earth. It would at least be something.
Simon would be okay in the wau dreamscape. He has no physical body so pain would not be a factor to him. He already has a copy of himself at the ark and is now stuck in endless darkness until the battery of his suit or the wau he if or not killed the WAU
did you watch till the end?
Im guessing the Maggot Face Ashley looks that way as Simon is fighting back agasint the Dream, as he knows it fake as he shouldnt be back in his apartment and knows She is dead thus the dream gets corrupted as he realizes this can’t be true, if he didn’t question it and accepted it i would assume Ashley would look normal and everything would be fine as along as he plays alongs with it.
@@spinozilla2421 Good point. It would seem the maggots are a way of him realizing its a fake scenario, im guessing if he does accept the dream it would be back to normal. Other than anything else what else does he have to loose? id rather be in a Lucid dream than be in darkness for who knows how long until the body I am occupying rots away or the battery finally gives out. Who knows maybe the Wau inside simons suit in the end of game creates him into a proxy so all that fighting for nothing
@@spinozilla2421but everything else. Simon is basically an emulation. no real body. He cant feel any pain other than just static signals
@@orangutank626 not sure about you but Simon screams like little Piggy if you decide to feed your arm to the Wau
Akers was not a bad guy, He wanted to save his crew from an untimely gruesome death, malnutrition, starvation, oxygen deprived, drowning, etc. S
That is true, however his intentions turned into a mania after consuming the structure gel and it forming growths in his brain
Another SOMA video? What a treat! And that intro man, the quality of your videos keeps only getting better.
Glad to hear
You did a great job on that intro sequence. Well done. :)
Honestly that's not the worst fate you can have in this world, at least your mind is still inside your body, and you'll never learn what you have become
That is no worse fate than Undeath.
"The blue pill, you stay in wonderland". IMO that is a valid choice, depending on who you are, would you be able to live in an unpredictable chaotic world, or a predictable stable world where "you can cause no harm and no harm to you, I'm sure you can imagine there are worse alternatives"
Yeah I think I'd rather take that than wandering the empty halls of an underwater prison as a constantly in pain biomechanical abomination, or living inside a videogame that might get shut down any moment by a passing asteroid. May I remind you that in both of those cases you're also aware that somewhere out there there's a copy of you that might be having it better/worse off than you?
10:40
"... but for better and worse, Simon can confront reality"
The quality of your videos became fantastic. Thanks for your hard work!
Thank You, I´m quite proud of this one, I hope to somewhat maintain this level of quality in the future even if that means that the gaps between videos get longer
Stop dropping so many peak videos mane..
9:24 “Surrender to the slumber” Akers sounds like a half-witted villain in a children’s show who monologues his whole plan to the hero
you just gotta love those
This may just be your best video editing wise. And unfortunately i already new about ashleys face but if i hadn't this would haunt me
Hearing Akers screaming in the background is terrifying
There is no escame for humans unless we become some energy celestials in SOMA.
Which we will... hopefully
Sub earned been binge watching all of these videos I played SOMA for the first time in 2019 and still think about it to this day, I also love the amnesia games but the sci-fi horror gets to me a lot and SOMA was the most emotional game.
Is her face actually like that?
Does this mean the WAU doesn't know what she looks like?
It's not, the model was reused. Originally it was supposed to be Simon's sister, in a nightmare sequence where Simon stands at his mother's grave and Ashley is there too, but her face is covered with worms. The idea was scrapped, and making models is time-consuming, and since she doesn't turn around and Simon doesn't stand up either during the WAU dream, you wouldn't notice a thing.
@@eloi4297 interesting.
Thanks for sharing.
Yes it is actually like that, but you never see it, since her back is turned. As eloi pointed out, it's a reused asset from a cut sequence. Probably has no significance in the final version of the game, but it is an eerie detail nonetheless. I would imagine that it doesn't matter whether the WAU knows what she looked like, as it would be creating dreams from Simon's own memories anyway.
It’s such a shame you can’t interact with almost none of the characters, it would have been cool if there was an interact menu like the one in red dead redemption, to try to talk with them and ask them things, and maybe try to wake them up
Wow that intro is incredible! After all these years and still thats my first time hearing Akers speech. It gave me chills😂
it´s a real shame the voice performance went unused, the actor did a really great job on the delivery
Awesome video
Thank you so much
did they sample the same sounds used for bonnie and chica in the office in fnaf?
I would not know, they could be original sounds as well
I just recently started playing soma and it’s amazing so far.
incredible videos dude, i want to play again
Thank You
Simon being able to actually escape the coral probably comes from the fact he's a robot, right?
very likely
And probably the large explosion
What is the music used for the Murmurs of the Dreaming?
Is it from the game?
It´s called Corridor it´s unused ingame but essentially a longer variation of the theme that plays during Simons Dream
I know it might be a bit much for these style of videos but..
Are you going to go through each map in the frictional games to showcase secrets and/or stuff that we normally couldn't see?
Aka noclipping through each map?
Well currently I´m working on the MS Curie and the Cassandra Wreck were I´m doing a bit of out-of-bounds exploration since there aren´t so many singular models left to discuss
I feel like that kind of thing might pay off quite a bit in Rebirth and SOMA, since the maps in both games are really vast compared to the other titles...
the software I´m currently using isn´t too ideal for that but maybe I can figure out how to debug the games, we will see, with Christmas rolling closer and me having to manage my Job as well chances are I will have to slow down the upload rate in the foreseeable future again but if there is an interest then I´m happy to continue
how can you hear the dreamer's dreams? i only hear the corpses breathing after being plugged into the mind coral... perhaps i am not listening to the right corpses
ingame it´s a bit difficult to hear, since their voices are accompanied by a strange static noise, there are also long intervalls between each monologue and it´s not always possible to stay near them and listen since the Proxies are on the prowl in that area
@@umukzusgelos4834 kk, i was able to hear a few, def much scarier than your version with the somber piano music lol
is it some kind of reference on Junji ito?
but thats the thing... you don't accept the dreams, because they are just dreams there is difference in winning in "reality" and winning just by magically things getting better... some people maybe will accept that, BUT will you? knowing it is a dream and NOTHING change for nnyone just you alone becaus you feel better?
Akers was right. Catherine lied. The guy who killed her spared the crew the realization that they launched The Sims into space while they're left to die on the sea floor.
why didnt the wau provide nutrients to the humans to preserve their bodies?
I believe it just couldn´t
@@umukzusgelos4834then how is it able to keep them alive?
@@ewerton8463well I suppose they aren´t really alive and their bodies are probably decomposing, but the WAU replaces the necessary tissue with it´s growths and forces the Lungs to pump air and maintains the circulation, as if they were still alive
what are you using to view the models and how do you get the models?
You know, its been literal years since I was familiar with soma. It honestly bothers me that the crew never at any point considered going back up to the surface. Its entirely possible that there is something that im forgetting that would explain why they didn't, but as far as I remember the impact is over. And as much as most large surface life is probably completely gone, the thing is life is really, **really** stuborn. There would be things that survived. Life would oh so slowly recover. And as for the Hazzards such as valcanoc ash making the air dangerous, that could be circumvented by technology. Hazmats, dust and fume masks, ect. So why didn't they go back up? Even if humanity as a speicies was doomed and wouldn't be able to repopulate, I would think that at least some of the scientists would want to study the life that was fighting to reclaim the surface. Like, unless the oceans all boiled and all landmasses were flattened, *something* would survive. And if the surface really was that level of destroyed, then I don't think that ocean base wouldn't have survived either.
Idk. I feel like in that kind of situation, I'd would have wanted to go back to the surface if for no other reason than to see what life was still finding a way in the wreckage.
Radiation, Carbondioxide and a few other reasons if I recall
one of them, Antje Coetze actually did go up to the surface on foot to live out her final days on the surface station Omega
I gotta move my ass and draw again my idea for SOMA afterstory and draw Akers as an abot of "his faith"
being busy spreading the Ghospel of the Divine Warden no doubt
I played this game every single year since it came out and I will until I go, and yet there is still so much to learn about it. How do you get in game what they dream about? I had playthroughs where I stayed close to them for minutes on end and nothing happened, no dialogue, no murmuring.
only some of them talk and only after Akers has ambushed you, the first will be located in the tram right were you wake up, from there the rest can be found near the Proxies that roam the halls
@@umukzusgelos4834 Oh I know where they are, but no matter how long I kept near them, they never talked. Does this change between normal game and wuss mode, I wonder. I played both, but still saw no difference.
@@vazzegthat is strange, they should usually talk in roughly 7 to 8 second intervals
there are no subtitles for it though
@@umukzusgelos4834 Got you. I'll pay more attention next playthrough. Thanks for the replies.
The surface may be destroyed but the ocean is still well so theres hope
Oh... I never got killed by the meat puppets so I never got the _UBER SECRET DIALOGUE_ begauce I am a ***god gamer***
only the death that triggers these lines is scripted
Can you take a closer look atdez
ah man, that was creepy
me at 1:54
8:51 *wonder, not wander
dang
Terry Akers having a southern hillbilly accent when he's supposed to be a super intelligent scientist fits horribly for his character.
He's a well educated southern former hillbilly that just can't shake the accent. It clearly didn't stop him from getting a position on the crew (or jabbing everyone with gel)
He is chief Factor at Delta, so he likely deals more with the supervision of assembly work
he also seemed to like photography and chess
Soma is just a glorified walking simulator. I just wish this genre would just end already.
now, now
It’s a lot deeper than that buddy
Please share with us your portfolio of award winning game development.
Not everything needs to be Call of Duty, buddy.
womp womp